😂😂 exactly my thoughts lol. Now I just use mimic tear. At least then the mimic will die in 15 seconds and serves as a good distraction so I can watch the bosses move set and come up with a plan lmao
@@icydragon308 I do that too lol. The only kinda summon I do now is a mimic but just so it can run out and die and I can just come up with a plan in the meantime. It usually takes a few times either way lol
@@LuisFelipe-pq9lr Actually Malenia is easy on co-op depending if your team knows how to attack after you attack Melania gets staggered easily So if I use river of blood.. (full combo) I run out of stamina right? .. but I deal huge damage Problem - I die cuss I can’t run away Solution - the moment I finish my combo my team has to also use theirs.. the moment I finish it .. that way she get stuck in a staggered animation .. by the time my teammate finish their combo I got my stamina full … meaning we can do this combo until she dies Sadly is awful with randoms But I managed to know how to solve it I do not start a combo .. I wait for my teammates to finish theirs and then I do mine Hopefully they do theirs after
I could likely do that to that boss in my game. I still had a really hard time with the red wolf of Radagon, the last ball bearing hunter, and rune bears. They move way too much for something like Comet Azur to be used that way. You'd be half dead before the spell even started doing damage, and you can't distract them with a summon. Some bosses just fall to that particular trick really easily, especially if you set things up carefully. This works a wonder for getting rid of an Erd Tree Avatar, for example. The Dragon Tree Sentinel is tricky because you have to get it to stay still for a bit, but it's possible.
@@Omnifarious0 did you use a the talisman that makes the boss agro on you That way you can summon a mimic with it .. and quickly change the talisman back Yeh boss will mostly focus a lot to your mimic .. that way maybe your spell won’t miss a lot since the boss will stay near your mimic
@@PRchris13 - I haven't used that technique yet. Honestly, almost every boss I can use summons with I can beat in one or two tries, and so I haven't felt the need to try that. Maybe, once I get to Malenia I'll be forced to go there.
I would have gone just a little closer but yes it is impressive, as a sorcery caster this spell melts.....also as a sorcery caster the positioning needed to get a good cast while hoping whatever is on the receiving end doesn't move....too much, sucks ass!
I get that it's kind of a letdown for a summon to just one shot like that but I think one should expect summons to try their hardest to help the summoner even if that means op builds. I'd rather that then a useless summon that trolls
Ya but I could easily respec and do that myself, that's not why I summon. Summoning is a fun coop experience - this takes the fun AND the cooperative element out of it - its like pressing a button to delete the boss just so you can move on
Someone did that with Morgott, i love summoning when it’s a challenge for both of us and he aggros, this guy i summoned just One shot him, i’m never summoning again it left such a bad taste. I’m not mad at him but if i were him i would have let the Host struggled a bit, it didn’t feel deserved at all
@@visualsynthetics9882 No it's not, have a friend join if you want a fun co op experience, Souls games co op feature has always been about summoning someone who can beat a boss you can't so you can progress.
@@metasaurus3233 lol ok whatever you say. I've been playing souls games since 2015 and playing coop is just as much about fun and cooperation as it is about getting help. I'm not saying it's not about progression - but summoning someone who just one shots the boss with this broken ass build is lame as fuck
@@metasaurus3233 don't believe me? search the words "fun" and "coop" together in the dark souls or bloodborne subreddits and you will see countless posts about coop being fun, or people engaging in coop cause it's fun. It's a fucking game, games are meant to be fun. Not saying no one should use comet azur, if they find that fun power to 'em, but I would say a vast majority of people don't find that fun just oneshotting the game with one spell. So go ahead and do that if ya want, but if you're gonna use that when you get summoned... IN MY OPINION that's super lame. This isn't the first video I've seen about ppl being annoyed their summon one shots the boss with comet azur, and ive seen more people criticize it in the comments and in the elden ring subreddit
That doesn’t bother me. If I summon help, I just gotta take what I get. If my help decides to one-shot the enemy, so be it. If my help dies immediately, so be it.
exactly, i might be a little let down or feel bad if someone gets oneshot when i summon them but thats only because i know usually they wanted to help and instead did nothing. I know how i feel when i fuck up like that and leave my host alone lol
the best way to avoid these coinflips is to only summon NPCs (both ash summons and NPC summon signs). for this battle you can summon both Millicent (you need to have progressed her questline up until defeating the Godskin Apostle) and Great Horned Tragoth (no pre-requisites)
I see some people getting mad about summons oneshotting the boss, because then it's not a challenge anymore.. Bro, if you want a challenge then fight these guys on your own. And if you want a little bit less of a challenge use some spirit summons. But don't summon random people and complain when they do the job for you.
@@JoeyCentral a balance? There's no code of conduct when you get summon. Either you are helpful or not. I like the fact that you called it a cheese when all he use was things that were put in the game
I’m sorry, I’m dying of laughter over here watching the other guy you summoned looking at you and him like “did you just…” and him standing there in my mind just saying “What?”
player : "i want an adventure! with allies to fight with me to defeat powerful foes!" dungeon master : "okay, level 600 royal court mage of the divine dynasty has joined your party, all his gear is maxed out and he casts before the fight even starts" player : "i... i said i wanted an adventure..."
Thing is if someone is wearing THAT particular headpiece they will without fail be using comet azur as it buffs the spell by like 15%. You can see a preview of who is getting summoned so just don't summon that one if you don't want the lazerbeam
Considering how quickly Invaders spawn in to crash the party if you're at the level ranges you'd be expected to fight this specific boss, I'm not surprised that some golds set up there assume the host wants to speedrun it.
@@skrublordnord69 Well no need to stop asking but damm need luck to get someone who is not gonna do something like that with a glimpstone or bleeding build, personally I went with magic on my first run, just cause I love magic, didn't knew it could get this OP at first but ended the game without summoning, but if I get summoned at best I use Rock Sling to help break pose or stars of ruin for hyper mobile bosses.... or well since my build is int faith some times I just play as a healer support bosting defenses and healing, if I believe that the player do have a good chance on their own and need a small push.
@@azizalmaskeri1679 eh I don't think so, rock sling does really good damage against Rennala from memory, and the first glintstone dragon isn't too much of a challenge for mage imo. But the Adula glintstone dragon and any boss enemy that's quick is a total pain in the ass
@@azizalmaskeri1679 rock sling is a sorcery buddy, you can pick it up with the meteorite staff early game that has S int scaling and boosts GRAVITY SORCERIES which rock sling is
Didn't even react after the deed was done; just stone-faced (literally) the whole time, like he does this a dozen times a day. That's a true INT Chad right there.
Best co-op I did was the ice lightning commander Neil guy. I was dex/arc, but not rivers of blood. Bloody Helix Rhand, godskin stabby sword Lhand, infused with blood. Huge blood loss, but I actually had to dodge and land hits and stuff. It was just me and host, both chipping in damage, both taking turns drawing aggro, both taking damage and needing to heal. My last big jumping L1 got the boss real low, and I knew I drew aggro so the host was safe. I backed off and let host get the killing blow. Host was good, just needed a bump, and still got to earn the win.
Anything can be broken down amd catagorized in many different ways. Im going to break down souls borne players into 2 groups. first group who want to have a specific gaming experience. for this groups summons often feel overpowered and that hurts the play experience. 2nd group that wants to overcome the challenges provided by any means provided. for this group creating and showing off, and/or being shown, an amazing over powered build is fun. the vast majority of people in the 2nd group are not trying to steal the fun of the first group. they just do not have a means of talking to the first group. i think its disingenuous for people of either group to call the other lame.
There is a third group. That's role players. Whatever works, whether it is weak, or strong goes on the role playing build. Then getting summoned, or summoning is a chance to act out the role publicly. The challenge is fulfilling the role. Even if that means not using the best armor, weapons, or spells. This group probably overlaps with your 1st, and 2nd group.
Thing is though, summoning players in other Dark Souls games or even Bloodborne never ended with a result such as this. Elden Ring just scales its damage so tremendously and then gives you a ton of items that boost damage, that in the end you have players bleeding bosses in two hits, or such using laz0rs to anhilate them.
This game isn't called bloodborne or dark souls its called Elden ring an entirely different game. If you want the same mechanics then stick with the game that offers those mechanics. That dude was summoned to defeat a boss and he did it quite efficiently. If you dont want to be handheld then do it yourself a really simple concept that I guess is so hard to grasp for a lot of people
@@MarvoloSalazar I think he means that Elden Ring has some huge dmg balancing issues and how people want summons to help them defeat the boss with sickass cooperation like those Avengers movies. But yeah I agree with you.
"From Soft, can I see what stats and armaments my summon has?" *"No, but you can see their helmets." "... Then can I do a boss rush later in case I want to do it without summons?" *"Haha no fuck you"
Commander thunder toes is the only boss I’d allow that to happen too, I’ve never liked being flanked by greatswords and assuming I’d survive thing one and thing two there was still an entire boss waiting to kill me
I love being summoned to help with tough bosses, nothing more satisfying than being summoned to fight against Radhan, 3 Rotten Dragon Breaths later he’s down
The thing about summoning help in FromSoft games is that unless you have control over who you’re summoning (part of a specific group or a specific friend), it’s pretty much a forfeit and you’re just letting the other guy solo it for you. Would be nice if there was a group online that made it so the people who you summoned just helped you, not solo’d for you, cause fighting with other players is pretty fun tbh.
Damn, I wish this guy would join me. Over all 10 of my characters, my most hated, mandatory boss is most definitely this stupid sentinel sitting outside my castle door. Like bruh, I'm just trying to give Morgott the smack down but this horse man never lets me through
Have any of your "10 characters" actually beaten the game? Because this boss is a pushover compared to even some of the optional bosses. And after 10 characters worth of experience, you should just be able to waltz through the game with even the silliest build.
@@Facepalm9 Yes, all of them. 12 playthroughs completed. Eight of them RL150 for PvP, one RL300, one RL400. Turns out that at sub RL50, before you can get great gear, the Draconic Sentinel is tougher than Morgott and Godfrey. That or I just never clicked with his moveset.
@@Camacho4Prez2024 Damn, somehow in all my playthroughs I never took the portal next to Fia. Or rather I did on my first playthrough, but since I was already through the Haligtree by the time I got to Depths my brain just wrote the portal off as being worthless, so I just forgot it was an option.
Yeah I didn’t mind in this case cos it’s a reskin and I just didn’t wanna fight him again. But what I wasn’t expecting was it to be over in seconds lol. The thing that I do mind is if I’m on a boss I’m having problems with, and I just want an extra sword to help out, not exactly wipe the boss out in seconds, but to still have a challenge and hopefully come out on top due to teamwork. I’m not against this spell if you just want the fight over with and you’re tired of fighting the same boss over and over again. But i also don’t want a really good and unique boss, that you just want a little bit of help on to balance things out a bit, to just be wiped out in seconds. Completely stripping away the sense of accomplishment and sense of threat the boss actually had. That’s why I like the mimic tear because if you don’t upgrade it, it’s literally just a weaker summon. Moments like this is why I don’t wanna summon anymore. But mainly for the unique bosses like I said. If I, for example, fight the 5th reskin in a row, I’m most likely gonna summon a couple guys just to get it over with.
@@skrublordnord69 I'm new to souls games so Elden Ring whooped my ass bad bad. I love fighting bosses but i hate when mini boss bitches kill me. It's like a chess match your constantly losing then all of a sudden you win...love that shit.
The dilemma is that you sometimes gets summoned into a host who can't take more than 2 hits from the boss and also donno how to not take those 2 hits. In those cases I suppose this is an answer, tho I'd say the other answer is just to sever the next time you get summoned by them instead of beating it for them.
I feel this deep within my soul. Having host be killed by Horah Loux in 2 hits because they are incapable of jumping/dodging his stomps made me start trying to kill him as fast as possible rather than letting the fight play out. I don’t want to have to go through 2 cutscenes with no reward so either you want the boss dead and you summon randoms or you play it out and have fun.
@@TT-pf3sv Around 30-40% of host I have met lose more than 70% of their hp when they hit by radagon while i can tank 2 full heaviest hits from him. I'm starting to think they forgot that dragoncrest shield talisman exist, sometimes they take like 1.1k dmg from that hit and I just can't even since that generally means they have like
It'll so far always be the question if the Int Player plays either the Laser Beatdown or Moonveil Be a Chad and play it because you enjoy it + if you beat the Boss, you can always remind the others that without you they'd still be stuck
The whole goal of summoning is so the guy you are summoning can beat the boss it doesn’t matter what build it is be it Comet Azur, or jumping dual scavenger sword bleed build or just a out right broken build that one shots the boss when you are summoning it is the equivalent of “big brother can you help me beat this boss?” And that is exactly what he did, remember it was your choice to summon him he just did what he was supposed to do.
To be fair, you summoned a guy wearing Azur's set. Absolutely 100% of the time, every time, when someone is wearing that, they're maining Comet Azur, always, no exceptions. If you knew who you were summoning, you knew what was going to happen.
I thought this was gonna be me at first because I tried to help someone beat that boss and I got my scarlet breath off then hit him a bit with my greatsword, got one shot, and died so I hope my damage was able to help him lol
Had a guy like this for Malenia. Didn’t want him to solo her and he ended up basically doing everything… I barely was able to agro her at all. Still got a few cheap hit in at least lol
Nah they’re supposed to help you kill it, not kill it themselves. There should still be some challenge to it, instead of the entire fight lasting 10 seconds.
@@skrublordnord69 yeah, I also learned the hard way. Summoned a mage for a boss, I should’ve known something was up when his character name was “goku” 😂
@@johnshepard8556 unless you do it when she blossoms them in that case she leaves herself open to it. But yeah doing it outsid that moment is easy way to die lol
Its obviously a op spell that can quickly one shot slow moving bosses with the right buffs active, but against fast moving enemies like malenia comet azur is pretty useless
@@johnshepard8556 that's also why I see it staying. It requires a lot of set up and there are other spells and incantations that do absurd damage as well
doubt they'll nerf it. It has zero impact to pvp so not many people complain about it. They will only hurt the game by nerfing a very restrictive one time used pve spell.
Hahaha, robbed of glory 🤣. To be fair though, it's a mixed blessing. I couldn't find any summons so had to fight The guy alone. It took a lot of fights to finally break through.
if you want something more engaging, you can summon tragoth for this fight, his sign is on the paved way to this boss, and he gives you casual greeting
i remember fighting this boss and all the people i've summoned were absolute garbage, ALL them were fat rolling or they couldn't dodge a single attack, while seeing all these bots dying i basically learned the boss moves and beat him by myself
@@skrublordnord69 There is no challenge when you summon. It's cute that you want to flex your skill level while wanting to summon at the same time. You can't have both
"I SAID HELP ME DEFEAT THE BOSS, NOT SOLO IT!"
😂😂 exactly my thoughts lol. Now I just use mimic tear. At least then the mimic will die in 15 seconds and serves as a good distraction so I can watch the bosses move set and come up with a plan lmao
@@skrublordnord69 how does yours die in 15 sec, mine dies in 6 mins
@@BlackBar-bl3gb I haven’t upgraded him at all lmao. He just serves as bait lol
@@skrublordnord69 at least fight the boss solo a few times to learn it’s move set lol
@@icydragon308 I do that too lol. The only kinda summon I do now is a mimic but just so it can run out and die and I can just come up with a plan in the meantime. It usually takes a few times either way lol
If you ever feel useless just remember that there is a second summon in this clip.
lmfaooo by the time he loaded up the boss was dead im crying
😂😂😂 I didn't even see him!
They're the Rune Arc inspector
I thought they were invader tbh
Remember there’s a host too
I love how the other dude was just looking back and fowards, like "did you just..."
Yeah I noticed that too 😂
More like he let the other players do all the work
@@freshcity to be fair, it’s not work when you use that spell
@@ganjahiwalker2641 agreed its not.
@@ganjahiwalker2641 the work is getting the spell
I feel like the creators of Elden Ring just wanted to bring back the "I'ma Firin My Lazerrr!!!" meme
😂😂
He went dr. Octogonopus
@@markop.1994
DOCTOR OCTA-MOTHERFUKKIN-GONAPUS BLAAAAAAGHHHH
Classic😂
@@markop.1994 Now thats a name i've not heard in a long time.
My job is to defeat the area boss. Comet azur defeats area boss. I use comet azur now.
Lmao whatever works ig
he's a simple man
Lol Damm right
Comet Azur is the Bonk of mages.
Me Bonks Very strong. Enemy is kill
I used to be an OP mage but I found that bleed builds do better over all in the game haha but I do miss my magic days.. jealous 😞
For those curious .. bosses in co-op get more health and a bit more of resistance
So him doing this damage in co-op means he owns his world to godhood
wait thats seriously? Now I know why malenia took 6 FP flasks to die to me and 2 guys
@@LuisFelipe-pq9lr Actually Malenia is easy on co-op depending if your team knows how to attack after you attack
Melania gets staggered easily
So if I use river of blood.. (full combo) I run out of stamina right? .. but I deal huge damage
Problem - I die cuss I can’t run away
Solution - the moment I finish my combo my team has to also use theirs.. the moment I finish it .. that way she get stuck in a staggered animation .. by the time my teammate finish their combo I got my stamina full … meaning we can do this combo until she dies
Sadly is awful with randoms
But I managed to know how to solve it
I do not start a combo .. I wait for my teammates to finish theirs and then I do mine
Hopefully they do theirs after
I could likely do that to that boss in my game. I still had a really hard time with the red wolf of Radagon, the last ball bearing hunter, and rune bears. They move way too much for something like Comet Azur to be used that way. You'd be half dead before the spell even started doing damage, and you can't distract them with a summon.
Some bosses just fall to that particular trick really easily, especially if you set things up carefully. This works a wonder for getting rid of an Erd Tree Avatar, for example. The Dragon Tree Sentinel is tricky because you have to get it to stay still for a bit, but it's possible.
@@Omnifarious0 did you use a the talisman that makes the boss agro on you
That way you can summon a mimic with it .. and quickly change the talisman back
Yeh boss will mostly focus a lot to your mimic .. that way maybe your spell won’t miss a lot since the boss will stay near your mimic
@@PRchris13 - I haven't used that technique yet. Honestly, almost every boss I can use summons with I can beat in one or two tries, and so I haven't felt the need to try that. Maybe, once I get to Malenia I'll be forced to go there.
"Just make your way to the entrance, the door will be open by the time you get there.."
Ya boi summoned Goku
Bruh, he even blasted the door along with yhe boss~
"You think throwing reality-ripping beams counts as a martial art?"
"Hey, as long as it works."
South Dipper Holy Glintstone Fist
well goku did it, why cant we? :D
If you think about it you are punching in the form of light
What's this from again?
@@FilthyNobeard Fist of the North Star. ... The original was 'dynamite'.
I mean he was summon to kill the boss and he got the job done quickly. 10/10
but he's an ewstinkysorcerer
@@tinynugget2800 mad cuz bad
@@NotSomeOrdinaryGuy yeah i got skill issue and got ratioed
@@tinynugget2800 bingo
@@NotSomeOrdinaryGuy yahtzee
It's honestly impressive how he managed to land the beam in it's entirety... Not a single tick missed as far as I could tell lmao
yep...I have about a 20% hit rate with it :). Most of the time, I don't even have it memorized.
that's because the other player purposely lead the boss to stay in the beam.
@@GetPhiledIn Yes, but it's still never guaranteed to hit ALL ticks of the beam especially on a boss that moves around a lot!
I would have gone just a little closer but yes it is impressive, as a sorcery caster this spell melts.....also as a sorcery caster the positioning needed to get a good cast while hoping whatever is on the receiving end doesn't move....too much, sucks ass!
Keeping aggro away from the caster is the most crucial part of the job. You've done a good job.
I get that it's kind of a letdown for a summon to just one shot like that but I think one should expect summons to try their hardest to help the summoner even if that means op builds. I'd rather that then a useless summon that trolls
Ya but I could easily respec and do that myself, that's not why I summon. Summoning is a fun coop experience - this takes the fun AND the cooperative element out of it - its like pressing a button to delete the boss just so you can move on
Someone did that with Morgott, i love summoning when it’s a challenge for both of us and he aggros, this guy i summoned just One shot him, i’m never summoning again it left such a bad taste. I’m not mad at him but if i were him i would have let the Host struggled a bit, it didn’t feel deserved at all
@@visualsynthetics9882 No it's not, have a friend join if you want a fun co op experience, Souls games co op feature has always been about summoning someone who can beat a boss you can't so you can progress.
@@metasaurus3233 lol ok whatever you say. I've been playing souls games since 2015 and playing coop is just as much about fun and cooperation as it is about getting help. I'm not saying it's not about progression - but summoning someone who just one shots the boss with this broken ass build is lame as fuck
@@metasaurus3233 don't believe me? search the words "fun" and "coop" together in the dark souls or bloodborne subreddits and you will see countless posts about coop being fun, or people engaging in coop cause it's fun. It's a fucking game, games are meant to be fun. Not saying no one should use comet azur, if they find that fun power to 'em, but I would say a vast majority of people don't find that fun just oneshotting the game with one spell. So go ahead and do that if ya want, but if you're gonna use that when you get summoned... IN MY OPINION that's super lame. This isn't the first video I've seen about ppl being annoyed their summon one shots the boss with comet azur, and ive seen more people criticize it in the comments and in the elden ring subreddit
That doesn’t bother me. If I summon help, I just gotta take what I get. If my help decides to one-shot the enemy, so be it. If my help dies immediately, so be it.
exactly, i might be a little let down or feel bad if someone gets oneshot when i summon them but thats only because i know usually they wanted to help and instead did nothing. I know how i feel when i fuck up like that and leave my host alone lol
*GIGACHAD*
the best way to avoid these coinflips is to only summon NPCs (both ash summons and NPC summon signs). for this battle you can summon both Millicent (you need to have progressed her questline up until defeating the Godskin Apostle) and Great Horned Tragoth (no pre-requisites)
One outcome is definitely more preferable than the other though
well that game is simply hard and also harder than all other souls games from fromsoftware, well the evry way to kill boss counts
Love how you both just stopped and stared at him like
“Wtf did he do to you?”
I see some people getting mad about summons oneshotting the boss, because then it's not a challenge anymore.. Bro, if you want a challenge then fight these guys on your own. And if you want a little bit less of a challenge use some spirit summons. But don't summon random people and complain when they do the job for you.
For real, ppl always complaining about everything. Like, he was summon to do one job and he did. Looking for a challenge? Play solo
@@skullkid6473 exactly
Pretty sure there’s a balance between the summon doing the work and the summon using cheese to trivialize the fight.
@@JoeyCentral yes, it's called spirit ash, but you dont get to choose who you summon if you dont use password or so.
@@JoeyCentral a balance? There's no code of conduct when you get summon. Either you are helpful or not. I like the fact that you called it a cheese when all he use was things that were put in the game
this is whats supposed to happen. i didnt summon you cuz I wanted a challenge, I summoned you CUZ IM SUPPOSED TO WIN
Beautiful 🤣🤣
Exactly!
Beautifully put lmao
I know y'all goofin cuz I sound spoiled. Dont worry, I have indeed gotten better and solod bosses. I do however, love the co op system
Exactly, If I Sumon it means that I’m disparate
I’m sorry, I’m dying of laughter over here watching the other guy you summoned looking at you and him like “did you just…” and him standing there in my mind just saying “What?”
🤣
"My job here is done, no need to thank me."
That other summon turning around 4 times was perfect
Someone needs to add Goku saying "Kamehameha!!!!" That attack lmao
player : "i want an adventure! with allies to fight with me to defeat powerful foes!"
dungeon master : "okay, level 600 royal court mage of the divine dynasty has joined your party, all his gear is maxed out and he casts before the fight even starts"
player : "i... i said i wanted an adventure..."
_"The Destination is the Journey, everything else is just filler"_
Sun Tzu, The Ash of War
Thats a strangely rewarding dm
Thing is if someone is wearing THAT particular headpiece they will without fail be using comet azur as it buffs the spell by like 15%. You can see a preview of who is getting summoned so just don't summon that one if you don't want the lazerbeam
Ik you can see the preview of the character but I didn’t know the spell even existed when I summoned him, let alone the headpiece he was wearing
@@skrublordnord69 Well now both you and the pile of ashes that use to be the Draconic Tree Sentinel know!
@@Neremworld yep lol
Considering how quickly Invaders spawn in to crash the party if you're at the level ranges you'd be expected to fight this specific boss, I'm not surprised that some golds set up there assume the host wants to speedrun it.
Mage: "hold my ale...I got it"
If you don’t want help, don’t ask for it
Trust me I won’t
@@skrublordnord69 Well no need to stop asking but damm need luck to get someone who is not gonna do something like that with a glimpstone or bleeding build, personally I went with magic on my first run, just cause I love magic, didn't knew it could get this OP at first but ended the game without summoning, but if I get summoned at best I use Rock Sling to help break pose or stars of ruin for hyper mobile bosses.... or well since my build is int faith some times I just play as a healer support bosting defenses and healing, if I believe that the player do have a good chance on their own and need a small push.
@@Qutna Yap god
for anyone who wants to know that was comet azur with a mixed physick that had the cerulean hidden tear and magic shrouding cracked tear
GOAT
My first play through as a strength build this guy destroyed me over and over again. My second run as a mage he didn't even get anywhere near me.
Yeah, from what I've seen magic is a teeeeensy tiiiiny bit OP
@@Yorikoification depends on which boss you are against magic is night mare against rennla and glintstone dragon
@@azizalmaskeri1679 eh I don't think so, rock sling does really good damage against Rennala from memory, and the first glintstone dragon isn't too much of a challenge for mage imo. But the Adula glintstone dragon and any boss enemy that's quick is a total pain in the ass
@@goose8284 rock sling is Faith bruh and i think it does physical damage
@@azizalmaskeri1679 rock sling is a sorcery buddy, you can pick it up with the meteorite staff early game that has S int scaling and boosts GRAVITY SORCERIES which rock sling is
Didn't even react after the deed was done; just stone-faced (literally) the whole time, like he does this a dozen times a day.
That's a true INT Chad right there.
If you died.
You would complain.
If you win
You still complain.
The thing is tho I didn’t win. The guy who cheesed the boss did
@@skrublordnord69 Then don't summon, dude.
@@melo7038 I suppose that’s why I titled the video “I’m never summoning again.” Isn’t it?
“Sorcery is balanced”
I bursted into a laugh that was loud and proud, because this was priceless and well-done XD
HAHA ECKSDEE
I mean, he exterminated the boss in the most efficient way possible, seems like a good performance to me lol
u can solo any Boss this way in less than 5 sec, but not Malenia
@andryarias6618 that is absolutely false
Best co-op I did was the ice lightning commander Neil guy. I was dex/arc, but not rivers of blood. Bloody Helix Rhand, godskin stabby sword Lhand, infused with blood. Huge blood loss, but I actually had to dodge and land hits and stuff. It was just me and host, both chipping in damage, both taking turns drawing aggro, both taking damage and needing to heal. My last big jumping L1 got the boss real low, and I knew I drew aggro so the host was safe. I backed off and let host get the killing blow. Host was good, just needed a bump, and still got to earn the win.
I guess this'll be a new... trend? like the "Thank you Dark Souls" one for dying in an unfair or stupid way in DS1 2 or 3
You summoned him to help you, and so he did. You summoning someone tells them that you’ve been struggling or dont want to do this alone.
When your friend is actually a hidden Overlord .
Anything can be broken down amd catagorized in many different ways. Im going to break down souls borne players into 2 groups.
first group who want to have a specific gaming experience. for this groups summons often feel overpowered and that hurts the play experience.
2nd group that wants to overcome the challenges provided by any means provided. for this group creating and showing off, and/or being shown, an amazing over powered build is fun.
the vast majority of people in the 2nd group are not trying to steal the fun of the first group. they just do not have a means of talking to the first group.
i think its disingenuous for people of either group to call the other lame.
The problem with Elden Ring is that you either get overpowered or the fights don’t feel fair. At least not in the late game.
There is a third group. That's role players. Whatever works, whether it is weak, or strong goes on the role playing build. Then getting summoned, or summoning is a chance to act out the role publicly. The challenge is fulfilling the role. Even if that means not using the best armor, weapons, or spells. This group probably overlaps with your 1st, and 2nd group.
Can you help me defeat this boss? "Nah, I'll just hit the delete button."
"The boss is there, ok, listen, this what we are going to .... Oh come on!!!"
It’s the dragonic tree sentinel, he deserves whatever comes his way
The way you turn to him immediately after the boss dies is like “Now listen here you little shit”
This really blindsides you when it happens. Had this happen with one of the end-game fights and apologized to the boss. :,)
Honestly this is the best case scenario. You could be fighting the Sentinel and an invader arrive and screw your day 🤣🤣
Can invaders invade in that fight?
@@fullor9395 yup, tree sentinelsmare always field bosses. Meaning no fog wall is crossed. So invaders can get involved.
@@fullor9395 yes and it's always some variation of a naked dude with poison/rot crossbows + some sort of homming spell or AOE
Oh thank you, I didn't know that, I never play coop so I never get invaded too
as a mage build who if i even breathe on a boss they lose all their hp i can confirm this is basically all mage summons in the game
"Okay. Throw a spell that distracts him."
"Got it. FINAL...FLASH!!!"
Draconic Tree Setinel: How cute he named itOH *_SHI-_*
@@sasaki999pro I like you
Thing is though, summoning players in other Dark Souls games or even Bloodborne never ended with a result such as this.
Elden Ring just scales its damage so tremendously and then gives you a ton of items that boost damage, that in the end you have players bleeding bosses in two hits, or such using laz0rs to anhilate them.
This game isn't called bloodborne or dark souls its called Elden ring an entirely different game. If you want the same mechanics then stick with the game that offers those mechanics. That dude was summoned to defeat a boss and he did it quite efficiently. If you dont want to be handheld then do it yourself a really simple concept that I guess is so hard to grasp for a lot of people
@@MarvoloSalazar I think he means that Elden Ring has some huge dmg balancing issues and how people want summons to help them defeat the boss with sickass cooperation like those Avengers movies.
But yeah I agree with you.
You were the summoned one! You were supposed to help bring balance to the game, not destroy it! You were my brother fellow tanished! I loved you...
These particle effects are so freakin cool.
I can’t help but Laugh whenever I use that Spell . At times the Host would be Lost or would immediately know what’s about to go down .
"From Soft, can I see what stats and armaments my summon has?"
*"No, but you can see their helmets."
"... Then can I do a boss rush later in case I want to do it without summons?"
*"Haha no fuck you"
In my first playthrough, I summoned a mage against Commander Niall. This is exactly what happened except in my case he didn't even use Terra Magica.
Commander thunder toes is the only boss I’d allow that to happen too, I’ve never liked being flanked by greatswords and assuming I’d survive thing one and thing two there was still an entire boss waiting to kill me
A simple "thank you" would be appreciated.
I love being summoned to help with tough bosses, nothing more satisfying than being summoned to fight against Radhan, 3 Rotten Dragon Breaths later he’s down
Radhan is a great
The other summon was like “well damn”🐿
I mean to be honest, what did he expect when he summoned a magic user.
0:35 the second summon reaction is hilarious
The thing about summoning help in FromSoft games is that unless you have control over who you’re summoning (part of a specific group or a specific friend), it’s pretty much a forfeit and you’re just letting the other guy solo it for you. Would be nice if there was a group online that made it so the people who you summoned just helped you, not solo’d for you, cause fighting with other players is pretty fun tbh.
There is already a "group" there thats called elden ring discord server co-op channel bruh
He saw that you were gonna fail the vigor check so he vigor checked the boss for you
Damn, I wish this guy would join me. Over all 10 of my characters, my most hated, mandatory boss is most definitely this stupid sentinel sitting outside my castle door.
Like bruh, I'm just trying to give Morgott the smack down but this horse man never lets me through
He's not mandatory, just it's just faster to fight him than taking the path through several optional areas to get around him
Have any of your "10 characters" actually beaten the game? Because this boss is a pushover compared to even some of the optional bosses. And after 10 characters worth of experience, you should just be able to waltz through the game with even the silliest build.
@@Facepalm9 Yes, all of them. 12 playthroughs completed. Eight of them RL150 for PvP, one RL300, one RL400.
Turns out that at sub RL50, before you can get great gear, the Draconic Sentinel is tougher than Morgott and Godfrey. That or I just never clicked with his moveset.
@@Camacho4Prez2024 Damn, somehow in all my playthroughs I never took the portal next to Fia.
Or rather I did on my first playthrough, but since I was already through the Haligtree by the time I got to Depths my brain just wrote the portal off as being worthless, so I just forgot it was an option.
This guy just put the ‘x’ in teamwork
I see this person does exactly what I do when I’m bored.
I never mind this that saves so much time
Yeah I didn’t mind in this case cos it’s a reskin and I just didn’t wanna fight him again. But what I wasn’t expecting was it to be over in seconds lol. The thing that I do mind is if I’m on a boss I’m having problems with, and I just want an extra sword to help out, not exactly wipe the boss out in seconds, but to still have a challenge and hopefully come out on top due to teamwork. I’m not against this spell if you just want the fight over with and you’re tired of fighting the same boss over and over again. But i also don’t want a really good and unique boss, that you just want a little bit of help on to balance things out a bit, to just be wiped out in seconds. Completely stripping away the sense of accomplishment and sense of threat the boss actually had.
That’s why I like the mimic tear because if you don’t upgrade it, it’s literally just a weaker summon. Moments like this is why I don’t wanna summon anymore. But mainly for the unique bosses like I said. If I, for example, fight the 5th reskin in a row, I’m most likely gonna summon a couple guys just to get it over with.
@@skrublordnord69 I'm new to souls games so Elden Ring whooped my ass bad bad. I love fighting bosses but i hate when mini boss bitches kill me. It's like a chess match your constantly losing then all of a sudden you win...love that shit.
I mean, he had a specific job, you asked him to do said job, he did it
The dilemma is that you sometimes gets summoned into a host who can't take more than 2 hits from the boss and also donno how to not take those 2 hits. In those cases I suppose this is an answer, tho I'd say the other answer is just to sever the next time you get summoned by them instead of beating it for them.
I feel this deep within my soul. Having host be killed by Horah Loux in 2 hits because they are incapable of jumping/dodging his stomps made me start trying to kill him as fast as possible rather than letting the fight play out. I don’t want to have to go through 2 cutscenes with no reward so either you want the boss dead and you summon randoms or you play it out and have fun.
@@TT-pf3sv Around 30-40% of host I have met lose more than 70% of their hp when they hit by radagon while i can tank 2 full heaviest hits from him. I'm starting to think they forgot that dragoncrest shield talisman exist, sometimes they take like 1.1k dmg from that hit and I just can't even since that generally means they have like
As an int based player we’re sorry that’s all we have to go with 😭 that isn’t going to get us killed in the process of trying to beat the enemy
Don't feel sorry. As a summon you get called to do a job because the summoner is ass and needs help and that mage went above and beyond.
It'll so far always be the question if the Int Player plays either the Laser Beatdown or Moonveil
Be a Chad and play it because you enjoy it + if you beat the Boss, you can always remind the others that without you they'd still be stuck
Hahahqhaha i love that you could hear him casting in the background and i knew exactly what he was doing
The whole goal of summoning is so the guy you are summoning can beat the boss it doesn’t matter what build it is be it Comet Azur, or jumping dual scavenger sword bleed build or just a out right broken build that one shots the boss when you are summoning it is the equivalent of “big brother can you help me beat this boss?” And that is exactly what he did, remember it was your choice to summon him he just did what he was supposed to do.
He thought u wanted the door open so he just cleared the pest in his way and opened the door
I'm more impressed you found 2 people to summon there.
I got this empty feeling again
i message every summon if i even summon “don’t kill just take agro”
I seek out the players wearing the Azur hat for this exact reason. If I'm summoning other people to help kill a boss, I just want it dead at any cost
The fact that he has the health debuff from being hugged by Fia is the most amusing thing to me.
God i love elden ring , game is so cool
I absolutely love the image of you two just staring at him
"bro what the hell"
To be fair, you summoned a guy wearing Azur's set. Absolutely 100% of the time, every time, when someone is wearing that, they're maining Comet Azur, always, no exceptions.
If you knew who you were summoning, you knew what was going to happen.
Well I didn’t know cos I didn’t even know that spell existed at the time, let alone the set he was wearing. This was my first experience seeing it
@@skrublordnord69 Sounds like your problem ngl
@@general_jellyfish4202 never said it was anyone else’s problem
LMAO that red guy just stood there
I thought this was gonna be me at first because I tried to help someone beat that boss and I got my scarlet breath off then hit him a bit with my greatsword, got one shot, and died so I hope my damage was able to help him lol
Yo me every time 🤣, I run around After getting full volume of Ezdecays breath a few times
Literally 1 second in man said "KAMEHAME-"
Dude, just Kamehameha the shit out of the boss. Wow
Sir Buzz Killington, at your service.
Had a guy like this for Malenia. Didn’t want him to solo her and he ended up basically doing everything… I barely was able to agro her at all. Still got a few cheap hit in at least lol
the let me solo her guy?
@@lyrical3686 nope that’s what suprised me lol. He was just really good. He was on his 8th journey
Dude was like, " look pal, they don't pay me by the hour."
Welp, a player summon is meant to kill the boss without you dying so…
Nah they’re supposed to help you kill it, not kill it themselves. There should still be some challenge to it, instead of the entire fight lasting 10 seconds.
@@skrublordnord69 that’s why you never summon people who use magic, either they die instantly or one shot the boss. I always summon melee builds.
@@tutu7564 I didn’t even know this spell existed at the time of recording this.
@@skrublordnord69 yeah, I also learned the hard way. Summoned a mage for a boss, I should’ve known something was up when his character name was “goku” 😂
That happened to me once. So now I’m never summoning a guy with the comet azur set again.
Comet Azur = Boss deleter
Comet azur against malenia = immediate death to player
@@johnshepard8556 unless you do it when she blossoms them in that case she leaves herself open to it. But yeah doing it outsid that moment is easy way to die lol
He whipped out Iron Man's Proton Cannon
I hope it's not nerfed. I'm trying to grind 60 Intelligence to equip it. Right now I'm a half-wit (30).
Ngl me too lol. I wanna try it out before it’s nerfed lol
@@skrublordnord69 I think it's bound to happen. I'm currently level 35 in Intelligence and grinding.
Its obviously a op spell that can quickly one shot slow moving bosses with the right buffs active, but against fast moving enemies like malenia comet azur is pretty useless
@@johnshepard8556 that's also why I see it staying. It requires a lot of set up and there are other spells and incantations that do absurd damage as well
doubt they'll nerf it. It has zero impact to pvp so not many people complain about it. They will only hurt the game by nerfing a very restrictive one time used pve spell.
I love how the host is all like "Okay! Lets battle!" and then the summon just deletes the boss 😂
Hahaha, robbed of glory 🤣. To be fair though, it's a mixed blessing. I couldn't find any summons so had to fight The guy alone. It took a lot of fights to finally break through.
You could have used your brain n sneaked up behind the boss n use poison or blood mist
@@EWADVishalV Ew.
Parry + jump attack are satisfying....👌
@@EWADVishalV was that you using your brain or did you just read the wiki lol
if you want something more engaging, you can summon tragoth for this fight, his sign is on the paved way to this boss, and he gives you casual greeting
When you consider the fact that that OP summoned 2 fingers (affecting damage) and that mage still managed to solo him, that's impressive
Draconic Tree Sentinel: Why do I hear boss music?
The job got done! So you didn't even get a fight or even 1 hit. You still did it 👍
I mean you asked for help , you didn't specify how much help , he assumed you wanted all the help
i remember fighting this boss and all the people i've summoned were absolute garbage, ALL them were fat rolling or they couldn't dodge a single attack, while seeing all these bots dying i basically learned the boss moves and beat him by myself
Derrrrr
The problem is when the sorcerer is trying to help the host but the host attracts the boss away from the comet azur.
Praise the Sun!
🌞\[T]/🌞
Local 99 int mage saves 15 vigor host from a bad dragon knight.
The entire purpose of summoning someone is so they one shot your boss
Big disagree. There should still be some challenge.
@@skrublordnord69 There is no challenge when you summon.
It's cute that you want to flex your skill level while wanting to summon at the same time. You can't have both
@@melo7038 it’s cute how you think I’m flexing my skill level when I haven’t done that once.
@@lachesisazzie2515 again where did I say I was good at the game? Why do you care anyway?