As an owner for 10 years I can happily say that an annual service costs nowhere near $5k. In the UK I pay an average of $1500 for a standard service. Cambelt change is circa $1200 every 3 years which is what Ferrari recommend. $5k is just way off and $20k for a Testarossa crazy. More like $5k in the UK.
I worked in a couple of Ferrari shops in the SF Bay Area in the early '90s. I don't know about the regular maintenance costs like Colleen was referring to but our shop manager mentioned once to me that a new clutch in the 512TR was about $20K. If the owner is somewhat mechanically inclined, much of the routine stuff can be done in your own shop. I've done some of the "simple maintenance" on a 308 but when you start pulling motors and the more involved work, call an expert! I've wondered how much difference there is in the driving between the 308 and the 328; I never had a 328 in our shop so I never had the opportunity to drive one. Being the last in that series, a 328GTB or GTS would be very attractive. It has all the upgrades and as she said, it's still relatively simple. What always drew me to the 308GTB/GTS is how you can get in one and it is like putting on your favorite pair of jeans and just go. Its comfortable and handles very well without a lot of drama... those were a lot of years ago, but they're still very good memories!
Hi, Colleen! Very lovely car and thanks for the presentation with all the little insider observations. I had a 328 GTS in rosso corsa at the beginning of the 90s - I loved it and still think it's one of the prettiest cars I've ever seen. I've got one more observation about the car in this video: it doesn't have ABS. How do I know? The wheel rims are 'inners', not 'outers' (concave not convex). Mine had inners and the Ferrari dealer told me how to recognise that. Apparently when they fitted ABS to later models, they had to make more room available for the new brakes, so the rims became outers.
I am old enough to remember "250 GTE'"s when they were new. In fact, my father bought one used which we kept for a few years until he had enough of the maintenance/spare parts problems. I cannot recall the term GTE ever being used to describe those cars back then. They were always referred to as a 250 GT 2+2. The designation "GTE" seemed to have been added to those cars years later.
GTS is a Gran Turismo Scoperta. The 250 GT/E was a common name corresponding to the 508E chassis type. It was the first 508-type chassis with engine moved 200mm forward for bigger cabin space. Official name was 250 GT 2+2.
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Love your passion and enthusiasm for these fantastic cars Colleen!! Thoroughly love watching this channel and learning what to expect owning each model. Something I can only dream about!
A beautiful car and colour have not seen that colour before and I live in Ireland and Europe you are so knowledgeable and great presentation cars like them are so enjoyable in the good weather great video s well done
Great presentation. I used to own a 1989 328 GTS in Germany. The one thing you forgot to mention, which is a great tell tale sign of a European Model are the rearview mirrors.
Not gonna lie, the final iteration of the 308QV is my favorite version of that body style, but the 328 in that color is quite purty..and gated shift and manual steering are da bomb. "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" -L. Da Vinci
Great overview and I really like the unusual details in this video too. I never knew the grates in the side air inlets indicated its from Germany (nor why!) and I never knew about the button on the front hood strut. As a 328 owner this is really helpful to know. Thanks!
Again, great video and you are correct. The 328 is a strong number of ferrari and reliable. I drove mij 328GTS from 1987 for 100.000km's. Only issue: the electric bord in front of passenger. Those plates are a fire hazzard as the screws/bolds can shorten the power. Love that car and mis it a lot but I am happy with the F430 spider (80.000km's already). Keep the video's comming
I absolutely love the looks of the 308 and 328. I have a Lotus Elise and pretend it has the same feel as the 308 without the maintenance issues or potentially expensive issues. Very driver engaging. I love this channel!! I always learn something new.
@@delmarrathbone7092 Which is a pity: www.advanceddrivers.com/2017/06/21/rear-fog-lights-for-driving-in-the-usa-what-are-they/ As fas as I understand it, in the U. S. it is allowed to have *one* fog light at the rear, correct?
The colour 😍…love your channel…great info…Ferraris always look better when not in red…still if someone wants to hand me a 512BB in red I won’t say no 😎
I 100% agree with you! That colour is gorgeous! (Was it a factory colour) and Ferrari's never look good in red... I find that blue whether a flat French blue or a dark metallic is a much better option... But this brown/red is very unusual looks absolutely delicious!
I would’ve gone w/exterior side mirror’s & exhaust cover / diaper delete as the dead giveaways for a Euro 308/328. Prugna is my absolute favorite color on these, my all time favorite car. (Next to 4293GT, naturally.) LFSC had a Prugna 84 or 85 US 308 when I was a kid in the early 90’s, which left a huge impression. Then my wife and I saw an identical (might’ve been the same exact car for all I know) in the parking lot of an FCA National in Elkhart Lake ~12 years back. So sick.
Looks great in that color, which I had never seen on a 328 before. Besides red I mostly see black (which also looks great) and now I wonder if they ever came in grey? I've seen grey 308s and they look fantastic (one was even featured in a later episode of Magnum PI) and imagine a 328 would as well since they are so similar.
So I am selling E bikes and there is a trend of chains being replaced by belts...now they say the belt is 3 times more durable than a chain....of course nowadays they are carbon fiber reenforced but I just wonder if there are aftermarket belts for 328s that have a similar lifespan
Prugna sounds so much better than Prune. But it's such a great color. A couple in the mid-west has a two-mirror Testarossa in Prugna over saddle tan and it is gorgeous.
Great Video ! as far as registration of the car to operate in California ??? .. we use to call these gray Market cars and had a lower value ? If you ever saw rain man the Movie , that's what Tom C. was doing in that movie to make money .Yes fantastic Looking car .. the left front fender aft of the front wheel where the maker light is Looked like it had been repainted?? what do you Value these gray market cars thanks P S I think in Italy they call this Blood red .. the real Ferrari red you can see that its been repainted in spots Not like the factory paint
Would like to locate something other than a red one with decent records and less than 30K miles. Most either seem to be devoid of routine service records or so pristine they are asking TR prices. A fair price would be in teh 45-65k range according to some auction results.
I've never seen a Ferrari in this color. It's sort of a Dr. Pepper red. Porsche has a very similar color. I've seen some 944s and 911s that had that color paint. I think a very rare find for a Ferrari would be a 208 Turbo. I don't think they were ever exported outside of Europe.
Prugna? That’s actually a pretty name for a girlThat. car looks amazing from every single angle. It transforms metal and looks like a beautiful woman. I’m jealous you get to drive these gorgeous rides for a living.
I believe the same legislation that led to the gauze in the intake vent also gave rise to the side strakes on the Testarossa and 348. Fortunately it was no longer a thing by the F355. Nice color! Prune doesn't sound like it would be appetising, but it actually works well. According to ferrari.com GTE stands for Gran Turismo Europa. The GTS thing gets more complicated after the 308 series as the 348 and F355 had Coupe GTB models, GTS targa models and Spider models, the ones with the actual folding roof. The repaint is especially obvious when you did the close-up on the German side-marker, but a good detailer could likely sort that fairly easily. Please keep hands on wheel and look out the front while talking! We love you and don't want you to have any unfortunate outcomes.
My compliments on another fine video. That said the story about someone getting their arm stuck and getting run over is TOTALLY FALSE and unfounded here say at best. TUV road homologation regulations in Germany and Switzerland have had such laws decades before the 328 or 308 was made. The requirement for openings of a certain size to be meshed off were more a function of road debris and small animal considerations than any human incident requiring the regulation to be enacted. You make very nice videos but you need to be careful about spreading tall tales because it discredits otherwise good facts that would make a video like this a good reference piece.
Yes, darling you missed on the mirrors the Euro's have the Lamborghini styled mirrors. The US models are the square type and less sporty/attractive in my opinion. Also, the lower spoilers aren't painted on the car either they're black. Other than that this was a great an entertaining video. You look as good as the Ferrari my dear, and that say's a lot!
This is Ferrari at its best. Today's Ferrari? Losing it. Plus Ferrari should bring back pininfarina. To me a Ferrari really isn't a Ferrari with out pininfarina styling.
I would definitely buy a 328. Paint it metallic royal blue, install electric steering and replace the engine/trans with a 300 Mile plus battery setup. Ferraris will ALWAYS be AWESOME. But if Ferrari refuses to upgrade their older cars to modern day battery cars they will lose out on a HUGE market.
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As an owner for 10 years I can happily say that an annual service costs nowhere near $5k. In the UK I pay an average of $1500 for a standard service. Cambelt change is circa $1200 every 3 years which is what Ferrari recommend. $5k is just way off and $20k for a Testarossa crazy. More like $5k in the UK.
$1500 tops includes tensioner bearings.
I worked in a couple of Ferrari shops in the SF Bay Area in the early '90s. I don't know about the regular maintenance costs like Colleen was referring to but our shop manager mentioned once to me that a new clutch in the 512TR was about $20K. If the owner is somewhat mechanically inclined, much of the routine stuff can be done in your own shop. I've done some of the "simple maintenance" on a 308 but when you start pulling motors and the more involved work, call an expert!
I've wondered how much difference there is in the driving between the 308 and the 328; I never had a 328 in our shop so I never had the opportunity to drive one. Being the last in that series, a 328GTB or GTS would be very attractive. It has all the upgrades and as she said, it's still relatively simple. What always drew me to the 308GTB/GTS is how you can get in one and it is like putting on your favorite pair of jeans and just go. Its comfortable and handles very well without a lot of drama... those were a lot of years ago, but they're still very good memories!
Hi, Colleen! Very lovely car and thanks for the presentation with all the little insider observations. I had a 328 GTS in rosso corsa at the beginning of the 90s - I loved it and still think it's one of the prettiest cars I've ever seen.
I've got one more observation about the car in this video: it doesn't have ABS. How do I know? The wheel rims are 'inners', not 'outers' (concave not convex). Mine had inners and the Ferrari dealer told me how to recognise that. Apparently when they fitted ABS to later models, they had to make more room available for the new brakes, so the rims became outers.
I am old enough to remember "250 GTE'"s when they were new. In fact, my father bought one used which we kept for a few years until he had enough of the maintenance/spare parts problems. I cannot recall the term GTE ever being used to describe those cars back then. They were always referred to as a 250 GT 2+2. The designation "GTE" seemed to have been added to those cars years later.
GTS is a Gran Turismo Scoperta. The 250 GT/E was a common name corresponding to the 508E chassis type. It was the first 508-type chassis with engine moved 200mm forward for bigger cabin space. Official name was 250 GT 2+2.
I love your videos and am happy that I found your channel. But just so you know, the Lotus Espirit is pronounced Espree as it’s a French word.
I can't believe this. Drive in Media Exciting me in their every update. I am really excited about the contents of Drive in Media sharing more reviews about the latest and old supercars on American roads.
Love your passion and enthusiasm for these fantastic cars Colleen!! Thoroughly love watching this channel and learning what to expect owning each model. Something I can only dream about!
I really enjoy these videos. Best wishes from Sydney Australia 😁
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It's great to see you really enjoying driving these classics. I really like this channel.
A beautiful car and colour have not seen that colour before and I live in Ireland and Europe you are so knowledgeable and great presentation cars like them are so enjoyable in the good weather great video s well done
I absolutely love all your presented information!!!!...thank you soo much Colleen!!👍😁😉😎
Your welcome, thanks for watching! :)
Outstanding presentation. Love the nails! ❤️
Thanks! 🥰🥰
I just bought a 328gts in the UK and I really enjoyed your review . Very useful ! Especially the tip re the front hoot functionality part
Great presentation. I used to own a 1989 328 GTS in Germany. The one thing you forgot to mention, which is a great tell tale sign of a European Model are the rearview mirrors.
Thank you for the information on these beautiful 328 s . We'd like to buy another car from you . LOVED the last one.
That pantera is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow Local footage - nice to see the area represented so well!
Great video. Like the colour on this 328 which I've not seen in the UK.
Colleen- you do a great job. Thank you.
I lover the color. Great review dear
Excellent! Love it. Do more buyers guides!
Thats the plan, might make a whoel new section on it.
Not gonna lie, the final iteration of the 308QV is my favorite version of that body style, but the 328 in that color is quite purty..and gated shift and manual steering are da bomb. "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" -L. Da Vinci
Same..
Yeah I want that paint code period.
Always look forward to these
Glad you enjoy them 😀
Another great video!! Still waiting for a 456 video!😀😀😀😀😀 Keep them coming!
I remember seeing a 355 in Spain the was dark metallic green with grey leather interior. It was actually kinda cool looking.
Great video. Love the channel!
There was a 355 in this colour here in England for sale a few years, it looked so classy
Prunga
As always… a wonderful and informative video by Colleen 👏
Great overview and I really like the unusual details in this video too. I never knew the grates in the side air inlets indicated its from Germany (nor why!) and I never knew about the button on the front hood strut. As a 328 owner this is really helpful to know. Thanks!
Again, great video and you are correct. The 328 is a strong number of ferrari and reliable. I drove mij 328GTS from 1987 for 100.000km's. Only issue: the electric bord in front of passenger. Those plates are a fire hazzard as the screws/bolds can shorten the power. Love that car and mis it a lot but I am happy with the F430 spider (80.000km's already). Keep the video's comming
Colleen 😍😇.
Cool channel! Subbed!
I absolutely love the looks of the 308 and 328. I have a Lotus Elise and pretend it has the same feel as the 308 without the maintenance issues or potentially expensive issues. Very driver engaging.
I love this channel!! I always learn something new.
Try a 348 with the upgraded suspension, it's like a Lotus Ferrari.
Another great video! The “e” must have been for evolution?
Probably... and because it's Italian, it would ofcourse be "Evoluzione"!
Nope. Stands for 'Endurance' as with LeMans racing rules for grand touring cars.
@@supersonique001 As Collen already stated in the video, there's a lot of unclarity around the true meaning of the (Ferrari) GTE name...
Great video as always thanks from JDS in AZ usa
Gosh I LOVE that color. Would love to have an ‘83 308 in that color.
Nice looking Ferrari nice Color. Love old School Ferraris with Manual Transmissions and High Perf Exhaust System.
You can also tell it’s a Euro car by the mirrors and the running lights in the exhaust grille.
I guess these are fog lights, not running lights.
@@Fastvoice I’m referring to the red lights in the exhaust grill on the rear of the car.
@@delmarrathbone7092 These are too low to function as rear running lights here in Germany. So they are rear fog lights which are mandatory here.
@@Fastvoice Got it. I learned something today. Here in the US we only have fog lights on the front of the vehicle.
@@delmarrathbone7092 Which is a pity:
www.advanceddrivers.com/2017/06/21/rear-fog-lights-for-driving-in-the-usa-what-are-they/
As fas as I understand it, in the U. S. it is allowed to have *one* fog light at the rear, correct?
Learned a lot 👌🏾
The colour 😍…love your channel…great info…Ferraris always look better when not in red…still if someone wants to hand me a 512BB in red I won’t say no 😎
Love the 512.
I 100% agree with you! That colour is gorgeous! (Was it a factory colour) and Ferrari's never look good in red... I find that blue whether a flat French blue or a dark metallic is a much better option... But this brown/red is very unusual looks absolutely delicious!
Why is it that Lamborghini's can get away with a more varied colour palette and Ferrari's can't?
Very cool. Lots of good info.
Thanks, im going to start doing buyers guides aswell
I love it! I like the 308 better. I've never seen that color before.
I would’ve gone w/exterior side mirror’s & exhaust cover / diaper delete as the dead giveaways for a Euro 308/328.
Prugna is my absolute favorite color on these, my all time favorite car. (Next to 4293GT, naturally.) LFSC had a Prugna 84 or 85 US 308 when I was a kid in the early 90’s, which left a huge impression. Then my wife and I saw an identical (might’ve been the same exact car for all I know) in the parking lot of an FCA National in Elkhart Lake ~12 years back. So sick.
Looks great in that color, which I had never seen on a 328 before. Besides red I mostly see black (which also looks great) and now I wonder if they ever came in grey? I've seen grey 308s and they look fantastic (one was even featured in a later episode of Magnum PI) and imagine a 328 would as well since they are so similar.
Love the Video. Back-up light is just a third brake light.
So I am selling E bikes and there is a trend of chains being replaced by belts...now they say the belt is 3 times more durable than a chain....of course nowadays they are carbon fiber reenforced but I just wonder if there are aftermarket belts for 328s that have a similar lifespan
Prugna sounds so much better than Prune. But it's such a great color. A couple in the mid-west has a two-mirror Testarossa in Prugna over saddle tan and it is gorgeous.
beautiful car.such good info. but what happened to your lip? did you fall? sorry just curious
I had some cancer removed.
@@FerrarisOnline thats terrible.i'm glad you're feeling better.love the show
I have the same one...only in 1:18 scale :). True beauties.
Great Video ! as far as registration of the car to operate in California ??? .. we use to call these gray Market cars and had a lower value ? If you ever saw rain man the Movie , that's what Tom C. was doing in that movie to make money .Yes fantastic Looking car .. the left front fender aft of the front wheel where the maker light is Looked like it had been repainted?? what do you Value these gray market cars thanks P S I think in Italy they call this Blood red .. the real Ferrari red you can see that its been repainted in spots Not like the factory paint
Would like to locate something other than a red one with decent records and less than 30K miles. Most either seem to be devoid of routine service records or so pristine they are asking TR prices. A fair price would be in teh 45-65k range according to some auction results.
If you grew up in the 80s there's a chance you were introduced to the 328 via Outrun.
Interesting colour for a Ferrari
I really like that color.
Beautiful, the Ferrari I mean.
Way PasT KooL,,,,Found you ~!
Is this 328 going to be sold through Ferraris-online in a later date?
Yes it is. We will be listing it soon.
@@FerrarisOnline A lovely 328 with that Prugna color.
I've never seen a Ferrari in this color. It's sort of a Dr. Pepper red. Porsche has a very similar color. I've seen some 944s and 911s that had that color paint. I think a very rare find for a Ferrari would be a 208 Turbo. I don't think they were ever exported outside of Europe.
hello i have a question. where i live belts come always with the tensors why in america they just sell the belts? or its a Ferrari thing ?
Beautiful Ferrari. Still have mine. Love it. Not sure of the colour of this 328.
Besides, why no GTS under the rear 328 name plate. Did respray painter lose it.
Nice car!
The GTE on those 250 GTE means Gran Touring Executive or Long wheelbase 2+2
Is it original color ??
Yes it is an original color.
Ohhh, that's hot looking.
Great information! Now want to see you talk nice about the dreaded 348! LOL.
We did a few videos on some 348s before.
@@FerrarisOnline The 348 is such a cool car. Very under rated I think.
nice color......
....Goooood !
This woman knows her stuff
Lotus Esprit (note the spelling) is pronounced es-PREE. It's French for "spirit".
Its almost like im not french.
@@FerrarisOnline But you're not Italian either, yet you correctly pronounced Jalpa as Yawlpa. Just teasing you :)
Why drive around with the front hood popped..?
Prugna? That’s actually a pretty name for a girlThat. car looks amazing from every single angle. It transforms metal and looks like a beautiful woman. I’m jealous you get to drive these gorgeous rides for a living.
Did you really just say Lotus Espirit?..Hiyaaa!
Its a Lotus Esprit (es-pree) not Espirit
Ok, I was about to post the same thing, glad to see that someone beat me to it LOL. :-D
GTE= Grand Touring Endurance or GTLM ( as used in LeMans nomenclature rules for grand touring racing cars) . ACO rules .
No
I believe the same legislation that led to the gauze in the intake vent also gave rise to the side strakes on the Testarossa and 348. Fortunately it was no longer a thing by the F355.
Nice color! Prune doesn't sound like it would be appetising, but it actually works well.
According to ferrari.com GTE stands for Gran Turismo Europa. The GTS thing gets more complicated after the 308 series as the 348 and F355 had Coupe GTB models, GTS targa models and Spider models, the ones with the actual folding roof.
The repaint is especially obvious when you did the close-up on the German side-marker, but a good detailer could likely sort that fairly easily.
Please keep hands on wheel and look out the front while talking! We love you and don't want you to have any unfortunate outcomes.
Did they make a GTB variant?
Yes 328 GTBs exist.
Lovely
Beautiful car that should only come in red. That dark color don’t suit it.
My favourite colour.
I always thought the E in GTE meant Elena. 🤷♂️
GTE stand for GRAN TOURING ENDURANCE. (refering to IMSA and LeMANS).
GTE stands for “Grand Touring Endurance”.
great presentation. love the color. stop ridding the clutch or there are tranny issues. rpm should not go up then down...
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Please keep your hands on the wheel
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My compliments on another fine video. That said the story about someone getting their arm stuck and getting run over is TOTALLY FALSE and unfounded here say at best. TUV road homologation regulations in Germany and Switzerland have had such laws decades before the 328 or 308 was made. The requirement for openings of a certain size to be meshed off were more a function of road debris and small animal considerations than any human incident requiring the regulation to be enacted. You make very nice videos but you need to be careful about spreading tall tales because it discredits otherwise good facts that would make a video like this a good reference piece.
Yes, darling you missed on the mirrors the Euro's have the Lamborghini styled mirrors. The US models are the square type and less sporty/attractive in my opinion. Also, the lower spoilers aren't painted on the car either they're black. Other than that this was a great an entertaining video. You look as good as the Ferrari my dear, and that say's a lot!
There comes a time in life where you should no longer wear jeans.
Welcome, you have arrived.
Its Grand Touring Endurance 100%
This is Ferrari at its best. Today's Ferrari? Losing it. Plus Ferrari should bring back pininfarina. To me a Ferrari really isn't a Ferrari with out pininfarina styling.
Did she say “Es-spirit”? It’s pronounced Es pree. (Esprit)
There’s a reason colours are rare…
It's pronounced Espree. Not Espirit.. Cheers
even gaps on a hand built ferrari...how did the union approve that
328s were made in the beginning of the fiat era, when they started assebly lining cars.
@@FerrarisOnline thank you for the update. Keep them coming, loved the Pantera one
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She... is marriage, material...
Hah.... guayyyyyyyy
What is all the talking with your left hand and letting go of the steering wheel to shift? 🤣🤣🤣
I would definitely buy a 328. Paint it metallic royal blue, install electric steering and replace the engine/trans with a 300 Mile plus battery setup.
Ferraris will ALWAYS be AWESOME. But if Ferrari refuses to upgrade their older cars to modern day battery cars they will lose out on a HUGE market.
Essentially take the driving experience of a ferrari out of a ferrari. Sad.
@@FerrarisOnline As well as a lot of the $$$ value
Hankook tires. Not impressed.
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