"I want to make something like animal crossing" -makes monster hunter I guess his favorite part of animal crossing was making multiple outfits but felt that they would be better if they were made out of the villagers
@@monster25man Only if you use an amiibo from MH Stories 1 the villager comes. But also on MH4 there were AC Stuff. So yeah, he made into AC and brought AC to his game.
I think what could have made this game half way decent, is if Capcom just threw every sprite they had into it (obviously excluding licensed characters) , make it a 3v3, and ridiculously over the top. That way, you could at least enjoy the spectacle, and the sheer roster size.
That would actually be kind of neat. An official Capcom game where you can pick the actual SFII, SFIII, Alpha, and CVS versions of Street Fighter characters(instead of just gameplay style variations its the actual sprites with the gameplay) in addition to a huge mass of characters from the classic Capcom library would be novel for the insanity at the very least.
No, the real solution is to just release the 3D game. Who gives a shit about Virtua Fighter nowadays and Tekken balance is dogshit. Remember the Bob finals and Leroy tournaments? Also lesson learned: don't let FGC snobs "play test"dictate whether or not the game is good and just do public open betas like GG Strive
That same guy also said: "Let's put out a bare bone game where players have to buy title updates along with paid DLC costumes that are free unlockables in other games [SFIV]."
Those who said that probably also said: "Let's make gamers pay extra to unlock sh*t that's already on the disc, we'll tell them it's DLC, that will absolutely not backfire at all!" (SF×T)
@@stonetic2515 in both of those franchises you mentioned every single one of the characters play by the same rules, in CFE they don't that's one of the major problems
@@sketch92 Like I said, Hauzer was a non-playable enemy in Red Earth, which had a game structure similar to the first Street Fighter. You only had 4 playable characters and the rest were CPU only characters. The only improvement over the first Street Fighter is the overall gameplay being lots better, and it had RPG elements that allow you to level up your selected character.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 King of Fighters I think at the time, still followed a story based timeline. NGBC allowed characters across time & universes to meet.
I don't know about that, especially in a post SFV era where they can release the game 50% complete and charge for the other 50% with season passes and costumes. While I would love to see CvS3 become a reality I'm afraid of what the greed will do to it.
This game was the beginning of Capcom’s fighting game dark age. And after hearing about the behind the scenes turmoil, it makes sense why CFE looked so lazy and half assed. No budget, no time, no corporate support, no chance in hell.
Both Tekken 5 and Tekken 5 DR, Virtua Fighter 4 (With all it's versions), Virtua Fighter 5 Soul Calibur, Guilty Gear XX AC, King of Fighters 2002 and then later King of Fighters 98 Ultimate Match had come out in the supposed period
@@Athenya Most of those were sadly not well known in the US. Anything SNK related was basically a “literal who?” for most people here. Arcades were dying out, 3D fighters on consoles was the thing everyone was getting into and the FGC was incredibly niche at the time. I also think the US FGC had a bit of a Capcom bias, so almost anything that wasn’t Capcom was ignored, even if it was popular like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive or even Mortal Kombat. Coincidentally, 3 of those were 3D fighters and MK had moved unto 3D as well. “Anime” fighters were also HATED at the time, so something like Melty Blood, Arcana Heart and so on was immediately shunned, and that sadly included Guilty Gear. Like, if it wasn’t a 2D Capcom fighting game, a lot of people didn’t seem to care
Ingrid does have a really cute and charming design so a semi-positive takeaway of this is that at least she managed to be used in a few games that were actually released. Her 2 partners meanwhile remain in “character intended for a canceled game” purgatory
There was one other bit of brand new sprite work seen in CFE beyond Ingrid... Zangief's head. No, not Zangief entirely, just his head. They literally just made a brand new head sprite, that snorts steam out of his nose, that they then simply plopped onto his SF Alpha body. What was wrong with Zangief's head that needed a brand new one to be drawn, but NOTHING ELSE?!
While the FGC was suffering from the “The Dark Timeline”, these games were supposed to hold the fort: Marvel Vs.Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike Capcom Fighting Evolution But the end of the 90’s - Early 2000’s were rough: Companies changing,arcades dying and players’ taste evolving contributed.Also,it seems Capcom devs lacked motivation in this moment:Product was simply uninspired. I was disappointed until Neo Geo Battle Coliseum rolled around and did it right.
It wasn't much of a "dark timeline" (implying the games we got were bad) it was more of a drought. Or a isolation period as most people that were buying the fighters and keeping up with the community during the 6th gen were only the hardcore. Not so good games like the MK games or DBZ Budokai 3 did a fantastic job progressing the genre in terms of single-player. Of course the OVERRATED Street Fighter IV set the genre back. Ignorance was a beneficiary factor for SFIV's success.
Neo Geo Battle Coliseum was a better version of this idea. Especially since they not only used fighting games. Plus there was Maximum Impact 2 on the 3D front[though Armored Ralf is a POS]
@@Noname15514 Definitely! I was thinking more on the Capcom side of things. As a Capcom enthusiast myself,it really felt like “The Dark Age” (the expression I was looking for but blame Loki for all the time travel shenanigans.🤣) was upon us. I did enjoy other games like Naruto(Loved UN2) ,the DBZ Budokais and the SNK releases and compilations(KOF XI became one of my favorites in the series)
@@BigEOT3 NGBC appeared at the right moment! It really acted as palette cleanser to the Capcom entry. Classic characters from the SNK staples like Fatal Fury,AOF and KOF got represented beautifully! Plus the added franchises got some needed love(My mind got blown when I saw Hanzo and Fuuma) They did so much right, I purchased the game twice( PAL and NTSC) They release the game with GGPO\Rollback netcode and I’m there.
You gotta make some episodes on SNK. Here's some suggestions: *Hyper Neo Geo 64 *Neo Geo Pocket *The King of Fighters 2001 *The King of Fighters XII/XIII
Yeah man, what DID happen with KoF XII? I was in America at the time and got it at midnight in a Walmart (bizarre experience for a Brit), booted it up and…….. oh………. The heartbreak of Adel not making it into KoF XIII, too… and where has Shingo been since XI??
@@rexzs794 they basically run out time/money KOF XII was supossed to be XIII in fact you can find some XIII cutscenes and some characters sprites in the game archives, even with XIII they werent able to deliver the game in the way they wanted In other things I really wish a what happen to Garou Mark of the wolves cancelled
@@aliasmcdoe SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium was fucking awesome. Oh, and Card Fighters Clash was video gaming crack at its finest. For whatever reason, Card Fighters Clash DS fell flat on its arse.
Well this is a surprise. I remember how hyped I was for All Stars. Anyways, SVC: Chaos needs its own Wha Happun on how broken and unbalanced it was compared to CvS. *I hate seeing more CvS3 teases*
@@bwoeYT 3 would have been glorious if the NEST, Garou and SF3 characters are there. Maybe even getting a few more characters from other series like how they got Eagle, Maki, Haohmaru and Kyosuke too.
@@DDDorsett CvS was at least playable for half the roster. I saw a lot of 2 man R3+R1/ R2+R2 team combinations, people ocassionally picked a 4 man R1 team. The only rant or proof that it wasn't playtested enough was a few game breaking instances; like having a Yamazaki and Chun Li interaction freeze the game. SvC: Chaos was secret character heaven (Except for well.... Dan). And these chars have no adjustments to their damage or health and kept their movesets. Fighting against "Turtle" Goenitz, Mars People, Dimitri and Zero, Combo and damage monsters like Violent Ken and Geese. Holy snap. It was 1/20 that we had someone use a normal roster character as a main in that game. The majority is a secret character main
There was much potential with the “Code Holders” title, an ultimate villain threatening to destroy Metro City and Capcom heroes needing to join forces to save the innocents. I can totally see this as a 3 vs 3 battle, for in game story you come across a group of fighters who are temporarily brainwashed and that’s why you have to battle (hell that could even be how you include villain characters, they don’t care about innocents but want revenge against the guy who had taken control of them). Then imagine the teams moving through the city: Haggar, Felicia & Sakura or Ryu, J. Talbain, & Batsu. Maybe start with a small story based roster but as you play the story and beat brainwashed allies, you then unlock them so this way you’d have to play through all the various story based groups to get the full roster. Something to think about.
@@Gatorade69 There are snk versions of these characters in the kof maximum impact games . D.D. = alba miera Rook = Sorrie miera Ingrid = louise menyak Death = jivtama
Much like Rival Schools 2, altough I would add some Arcade Mode to unlock them alternatively. Playing all Story Modes unlock the what-if Boss Route, like Dark Student Council.
@@Gatorade69 Honestly it's infuriating, but I think it can still be done and I hope it does tie in eventually. It wouldn't be comic accurate, but none of the Marvel movies are completely comic accurate
"Noritaka Funamizu was a fan of animal Crossing and wanted to make a game like it, that wound up becoming Monster Hunter." I kinda feel like someone missed the point of Animal Crossing there.
@@joshhallam6342 No one's saying its bad its just that its so weird to go from Animal crossing to freaking Monster hunter. Its like wanting to do a cartoon like the Looney tunes and you end up making Yu-Gi-Oh
Not to mention this was one of the few opportunities Red Earth had to appear in a console game. Wish there were a port of the arcade one or at least a better fighting crossover.
@@DSan-kl2yc When I originally got it I just assumed that it was a compilation and I thought it would have been cool since I like Darktalkers and never played Red Earth
Yo, Matt... here's a little bit of trivia for ya! Post Strider 2014, we kicked around a lot of different franchises to revive and one of the leading franchises we were going to tackle next would've been Final Fight! Of course, we were bought by Amazon, so no more Killer Instinct and no more Capcom revivals... :(
Yup, and not even a good Mugen game with unified mechanics. It's almost as poorly balanced as slapping Guilty Gear characters into a SF and KoF centric roster.... Needless to say, the GG character would DOMINATE the rest of the cast.... Ironically, though, the menus and stuff from this game ended up as a popular Mugen screenpack... one of which I was fond of. So at least something good came out of this game.
@@DataDrain02 after years of only looking at Mugen and being initially impressed with graphics(37 year old me is back to a kid being wowed over 32bit systems over 16!) I always have wanted to dip a toe in. I am very fond of the Capcom Marvel stuff. When I got my Saturn Xmas 96 one of the games was Xmen COTA and eventually I even got a mod chip(absolute wizardry back then) and paid huge amounts for the Ram cart to play Xmen vs Sf... I've had the fun on MAME and enjoyed the CPS2+3 board, the latter totally underrated, But can you possibly point me in the direction of a really good, properly balanced, hopefully with new characters, fun, 'must have' Capcom Marvel fighter? Sure MVC2 is the GOAT but maybe there's a MUGEN that you feel tops that? Any help is much appreciated mate! 👍
@@mccarthy5825 I'd take a look at Capcom Universe: Nexus of Heroes. Still in development, and there are already builds for it. The creator is refreshing it currently with the Ikemen engine, since that has more advanced possibilities over Mugen.
@@mccarthy5825 I can't guide you to a Capcom Marvel thing since the majority of the people who have made those don't even know how or why it worked to begin with so their work is pretty bad and the ones that do know and make it right have only done individual creations and not a full game. However, allow me to list you a few MUGEN games that are good even if they don't have that crazy Capcom Marvel feel - The Black Heart (Which was remade and improved for Steam) - TMNT x Justice League - Shades of Manhattan - Gensokyo Reloaded - Hyper DBZ - Fighter's History Dynasties - Card Saga Wars - Capcom vs The World - Famicom Fighters
@@mccarthy5825 GOOD Capcom Marvel fighter? not to my knowledge. You're better off finding individual characters (Like Iwakick's MvC2 conversions and KAZ's take on the COTA/X-Men vs SF characters) and making your own characters based off of them.
this was the closest thing to Street Fighter x Darkstalkers. Ryu be fighting all these SNK and Marvel people, but hardly be fighting his fellow Capcom fighters :(
I second a return to Final Fight. Hell, adapt the old Code Holders plot into it for good measure so Ingrid et all from her cast gets some life beyond "oh, that one character in Alpha 3 that nobody remembers since it's on the PSP version that nobody plays."
Not going to lie the stuff they wanted to do in Code Holders sounds pretty damn neat for the time especially Declaration of Victory which seems like it could have been a risk/reward version of the first Guilty Gears' Insta Kills/Destroys.
Thanks! I'd love to see an episode on the King of Fighters XIII. There's a great story to be told with the production leading up to it (the turbulent times as a company, the terrible but important Kof 12...) and also the persistent stories about a supposed second bankruptcy created by sprites animations.
Thanks to your videos, I have learned that Capcom and SNK are acronyms for the full company names. I'm 33 years old and shocked that I never knew this.
i think Capcom has had more WHA HAPPUN's than anyone else. But i think Konami deserves this dishonor more than anyone else yeah but konami clearly hates Silent Hill, Metal Gear, and Castlevania, pretty much gaming in general. They are doing a great job executing 3 great franchises and then burning them and sending the ashes to the sun, then sucking the sun into a black hole and destroing that black hole
@@joakkar yeah but konami clearly hates Silent Hill, Metal Gear, and Castlevania, pretty much gaming in general. They are doing a great job executing 3 great franchises and then burning them and sending the ashes to the sun, then sucking the sun into a black hole and destroing that black hole
This is why Yu-Gi-Oh! is hated nowadays and they still do. YGO, SF and Overwatch are now joining the club of "getting shat on because they're owned by the companies everyone hates"
I think that a Capcom only crossover would be cool, like make it MVC style and not worrying about someone else's copyright. To bad this game likely ruined it, given Capcom logic. Poor Darkstalkers....
Two things that struck me: Inafune was a businessman first even back then and Why the fuck did we all just gloss over the animal crossing = Monster Hunter part? That caught me so off guard I had to pause the video and think about it for a few minutes.
I wished they picked Rival Schools over this. Seriously, you can't just put Project Justice in a collection and _NOT_ include the game that is it's predecessor.
I absolutely love that this series is still going and I thank you for entertaining the idea of keeping the intro and song, as it has grown to legendary proportions. You rock homie!
Capcom did put Sakura in Rival Schools: United by Fate before they made Fighting All Stars, and Rival Schools was internally developed. I remember being excited about Fighting All Stars from previews of it, but I was never excited about Fighting Evolution.
@@MrCageCat Super Battle Opera. The now dead Japanese fighting game tournament. It used to be the biggest of the Japanese tournies. Kinda like evo with the multiple games and all.
@@Gatorade69 Design-Wise, Compared to the other two OC's, Ingrid just looks like Karin 2.0 while the other two genuinely look like cool characters out of an SNK game added onto a Capcom game. Just my opinion though.
Wait, hold the fuck on: the original idea for Monster Hunter was to make a game like Animal Crossing? ...I'm sorry, that needs a Wha Happun in and of itself! How do you go from "let's make a nice little place with happy little trees" to having to fight a giant ass dragon? I just...what?!
I like Ingrid ingeneral lol! Also you mad lad finally did this "Wha happun?" XD And final note, LOVE the Morrigan theme from MvsC 1 in the background!! :3 Wish ya the best Matt!
I'm kinda crazy for Ingrid and her design. One of my favorite artists, tetsu, draws a lot of Ingrid, so that's where I get & saved a majority of his arts.
The single, shining ray of greatness with this game is the stellar Shinkiro artwork. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen these character portraits on arcade sticks and wallpapers, I could probably retire.
hey Matt, if you wanna cover a capcom game that was just... chaotic, rather than a massive blow to the company, how about Megaman X: Command Mission? you'd even get to talk about the Capcom 5, which I'm sure a lot of kids these day have never even heard of!
I still would've preferred all stars over what we got. Its also funny how this game is now part of a collection. I mean I doubt anyone was asking for it.
Speaking of Capcom, it's a more obscure title but it might be interesting if at some point you were to do a video about how horribly they handled the very idea of localizing the Sengoku Basara series outside of Japan.
@@garuelx8627 No, they wanted to remake Darkstalkers like they did the art on SF2 remix, but Capcom declined because the budget would have been much much higher.
You should do an episode on the Tak trilogy! Tak and the Power of Juju, Tak 2 the Staff of Dreams and Tak the Great Juju Challenge! Amazing 3D platformers that our heavily underrated! They deserve a remake
@@DatDemo I had that one. It came with different select screens, one of which had a ridiculous amount of character slots (I don't think I ever filled them all)
I have to thank this game tho, because I wouldn't have been into fighting games without it. This was the first 2D fighting game I ever played and I haven't seen anything like it, I was mind blown when I saw Ryu pull a hadoken and I remember trying to do it but with no luck. Now I'm really good at playing fighting games and I love this community.
A game I would love a video to tell its story would be MK Armageddon. The team knew midway was going under, and the series with it, so they gave one last hurray to the fans
@@BknMoonStudiosI think he meant more how the MK midway team thought it would be the last MK game until WB bought them out and then boom netherrealms studios and the current MK era we got now
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"I want to make something like animal crossing"
-makes monster hunter
I guess his favorite part of animal crossing was making multiple outfits but felt that they would be better if they were made out of the villagers
Tom Nook gets what he deserves
It does technically explain all the talking cats in Monster Hunter, though.
IKR, I heard that and I was thinking to myself "what did his villagers do that led to this?"
@@monster25man Only if you use an amiibo from MH Stories 1 the villager comes.
But also on MH4 there were AC Stuff.
So yeah, he made into AC and brought AC to his game.
And this entire time I thought Monster Hunter was made to rival Sega’s Phantasy Star Online series
I think what could have made this game half way decent, is if Capcom just threw every sprite they had into it (obviously excluding licensed characters) , make it a 3v3, and ridiculously over the top. That way, you could at least enjoy the spectacle, and the sheer roster size.
So M.U.G.E.N basically. I'd be for it
So a Hyper fighter version of Neo Geo Battle Colosseum
That sounds like budget Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, which is fine by me
That would actually be kind of neat. An official Capcom game where you can pick the actual SFII, SFIII, Alpha, and CVS versions of Street Fighter characters(instead of just gameplay style variations its the actual sprites with the gameplay) in addition to a huge mass of characters from the classic Capcom library would be novel for the insanity at the very least.
No, the real solution is to just release the 3D game. Who gives a shit about Virtua Fighter nowadays and Tekken balance is dogshit. Remember the Bob finals and Leroy tournaments?
Also lesson learned: don't let FGC snobs "play test"dictate whether or not the game is good and just do public open betas like GG Strive
"Let's throw together a game with character programed move sets from other games, it'll be fine!"
It was not fine.
Literally M.U.G.E.N lmao
That same guy also said: "Let's put out a bare bone game where players have to buy title updates along with paid DLC costumes that are free unlockables in other games [SFIV]."
Those who said that probably also said: "Let's make gamers pay extra to unlock sh*t that's already on the disc, we'll tell them it's DLC, that will absolutely not backfire at all!" (SF×T)
"So we left in the universal parry on the five SF3 characters, it should be fine."
@@stonetic2515 in both of those franchises you mentioned every single one of the characters play by the same rules, in CFE they don't
that's one of the major problems
Produce the game without a proper budget.
“Yeah that make sense”
Ahhhh I see what you did there.
The game is terrible.
"That's what I expected."
This game had a playable T-Rex look-a-like and still tanked. That sort of failure takes talent.
Hauzer was not meant to be playable in the original game he came from to begin with, hence why there was a sheer lack of moves.
@@X2011racer B-b-but pLaYaBlE t-ReX!?!
@@sketch92 Like I said, Hauzer was a non-playable enemy in Red Earth, which had a game structure similar to the first Street Fighter. You only had 4 playable characters and the rest were CPU only characters. The only improvement over the first Street Fighter is the overall gameplay being lots better, and it had RPG elements that allow you to level up your selected character.
Thank ono, this was his first executive produced project.
@@sketch92makes me wish the next Marvel v Capcom game includes Moon Girl + Devil Dinosaur.
And guess who's back now...
What?
@@chaaseisstupid2036fighting evolution is back alongside WITH CVS 2 BABYYY
The funniest/saddest part about this is that even struggling to survive, SNK still made a better job at a FG IPs mugen with NeoGeo Battle Coliseum
@@aliasmcdoe it also only used one fighting groove/style
I thought that's what King of fighters was meant for.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 King of Fighters I think at the time, still followed a story based timeline. NGBC allowed characters across time & universes to meet.
Yeah, that game was dope, but almost no one knows about it.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528
KoF is all first party though, except for Maximum Impact
Imagine the alternated universe where Capcom vs SNK 3 actually came out.
And CFAS, and better SvCC, and...
There's still a chance in this universe
Damn... it could still happen
I don't know about that, especially in a post SFV era where they can release the game 50% complete and charge for the other 50% with season passes and costumes.
While I would love to see CvS3 become a reality I'm afraid of what the greed will do to it.
One day...
The last Capcom fighting game to reuse their old 2D fighting game assets and somehow Morrigan didn't make the cut.
they finally laid her to rest…. (until she came back in 3D for Tatsunoko vs. Capcom)
morrigan's sprite might be the most reused one, but at least is only in good games xD
This game was the beginning of Capcom’s fighting game dark age. And after hearing about the behind the scenes turmoil, it makes sense why CFE looked so lazy and half assed. No budget, no time, no corporate support, no chance in hell.
It was a dark time for the fighting game genre as a whole Tekken 5 was good but otherwise fighting games around this time was dead
Both Tekken 5 and Tekken 5 DR, Virtua Fighter 4 (With all it's versions), Virtua Fighter 5 Soul Calibur, Guilty Gear XX AC, King of Fighters 2002 and then later King of Fighters 98 Ultimate Match had come out in the supposed period
Ingrid was lucky to have made it AT ALL!
XD
@@Athenya 3D fighters pretty much dominated the mid-2000s fighting game industry.
@@Athenya Most of those were sadly not well known in the US. Anything SNK related was basically a “literal who?” for most people here. Arcades were dying out, 3D fighters on consoles was the thing everyone was getting into and the FGC was incredibly niche at the time. I also think the US FGC had a bit of a Capcom bias, so almost anything that wasn’t Capcom was ignored, even if it was popular like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive or even Mortal Kombat. Coincidentally, 3 of those were 3D fighters and MK had moved unto 3D as well. “Anime” fighters were also HATED at the time, so something like Melty Blood, Arcana Heart and so on was immediately shunned, and that sadly included Guilty Gear. Like, if it wasn’t a 2D Capcom fighting game, a lot of people didn’t seem to care
CONGRATULATIONS MATT.
On your birthday it's coming back.
Ingrid does have a really cute and charming design so a semi-positive takeaway of this is that at least she managed to be used in a few games that were actually released. Her 2 partners meanwhile remain in “character intended for a canceled game” purgatory
She lot a Hate for mostly SF fan (even though she non canonly a SF character) and there alot called her a "Capcom's Mary-sue"
I want the other two to come back too. Their designs aren't bad either imo.
arnt`they the 2 main guys in kof maximum impact?
@@karlsylvain Soirre and Alba, lol
I kinda liked idea of capcom goddess
There was one other bit of brand new sprite work seen in CFE beyond Ingrid... Zangief's head.
No, not Zangief entirely, just his head. They literally just made a brand new head sprite, that snorts steam out of his nose, that they then simply plopped onto his SF Alpha body. What was wrong with Zangief's head that needed a brand new one to be drawn, but NOTHING ELSE?!
While the FGC was suffering from the “The Dark Timeline”, these games were supposed to hold the fort:
Marvel Vs.Capcom 2: New Age of Heroes
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
Capcom Fighting Evolution
But the end of the 90’s - Early 2000’s were rough: Companies changing,arcades dying and players’ taste evolving contributed.Also,it seems Capcom devs lacked motivation in this moment:Product was simply uninspired.
I was disappointed until Neo Geo Battle Coliseum rolled around and did it right.
It wasn't much of a "dark timeline" (implying the games we got were bad) it was more of a drought. Or a isolation period as most people that were buying the fighters and keeping up with the community during the 6th gen were only the hardcore. Not so good games like the MK games or DBZ Budokai 3 did a fantastic job progressing the genre in terms of single-player. Of course the OVERRATED Street Fighter IV set the genre back. Ignorance was a beneficiary factor for SFIV's success.
Neo Geo Battle Coliseum was a better version of this idea. Especially since they not only used fighting games. Plus there was Maximum Impact 2 on the 3D front[though Armored Ralf is a POS]
@@Noname15514 Definitely! I was thinking more on the Capcom side of things. As a Capcom enthusiast myself,it really felt like “The Dark Age” (the expression I was looking for but blame Loki for all the time travel shenanigans.🤣) was upon us.
I did enjoy other games like Naruto(Loved UN2) ,the DBZ Budokais and the SNK releases and compilations(KOF XI became one of my favorites in the series)
@@BigEOT3 NGBC appeared at the right moment! It really acted as palette cleanser to the Capcom entry.
Classic characters from the SNK staples like Fatal Fury,AOF and KOF got represented beautifully! Plus the added franchises got some needed love(My mind got blown when I saw Hanzo and Fuuma)
They did so much right, I purchased the game twice( PAL and NTSC) They release the game with GGPO\Rollback netcode and I’m there.
The dark age for many began after 2001. CVS2 is basically the end of the golden era for Capcom fighting games
The fact that this is the last notable time we've seen Red Earth characters in any meaningful capacity makes my soul hurt
Not anymore.
You gotta make some episodes on SNK. Here's some suggestions:
*Hyper Neo Geo 64
*Neo Geo Pocket
*The King of Fighters 2001
*The King of Fighters XII/XIII
Yeah man, what DID happen with KoF XII? I was in America at the time and got it at midnight in a Walmart (bizarre experience for a Brit), booted it up and…….. oh……….
The heartbreak of Adel not making it into KoF XIII, too… and where has Shingo been since XI??
@@rexzs794 they basically run out time/money KOF XII was supossed to be XIII in fact you can find some XIII cutscenes and some characters sprites in the game archives, even with XIII they werent able to deliver the game in the way they wanted
In other things I really wish a what happen to Garou Mark of the wolves cancelled
@@aliasmcdoe And the foolishness of launching a new handheld right in the middle of Pokemania.
@@aliasmcdoe SNK vs Capcom: Match of the Millenium was fucking awesome. Oh, and Card Fighters Clash was video gaming crack at its finest.
For whatever reason, Card Fighters Clash DS fell flat on its arse.
Well this is a surprise. I remember how hyped I was for All Stars.
Anyways, SVC: Chaos needs its own Wha Happun on how broken and unbalanced it was compared to CvS.
*I hate seeing more CvS3 teases*
One of the greatest missed opportunities was we never got to see the SF3 generation vs. SNK's NESTS and Garou characters.
That's assuming CvS had any sort of "Balance"
@@bwoeYT 3 would have been glorious if the NEST, Garou and SF3 characters are there. Maybe even getting a few more characters from other series like how they got Eagle, Maki, Haohmaru and Kyosuke too.
@@DDDorsett CvS was at least playable for half the roster. I saw a lot of 2 man R3+R1/ R2+R2 team combinations, people ocassionally picked a 4 man R1 team. The only rant or proof that it wasn't playtested enough was a few game breaking instances; like having a Yamazaki and Chun Li interaction freeze the game. SvC: Chaos was secret character heaven (Except for well.... Dan). And these chars have no adjustments to their damage or health and kept their movesets. Fighting against "Turtle" Goenitz, Mars People, Dimitri and Zero, Combo and damage monsters like Violent Ken and Geese. Holy snap. It was 1/20 that we had someone use a normal roster character as a main in that game. The majority is a secret character main
Explosions?
There was much potential with the “Code Holders” title, an ultimate villain threatening to destroy Metro City and Capcom heroes needing to join forces to save the innocents. I can totally see this as a 3 vs 3 battle, for in game story you come across a group of fighters who are temporarily brainwashed and that’s why you have to battle (hell that could even be how you include villain characters, they don’t care about innocents but want revenge against the guy who had taken control of them). Then imagine the teams moving through the city: Haggar, Felicia & Sakura or Ryu, J. Talbain, & Batsu. Maybe start with a small story based roster but as you play the story and beat brainwashed allies, you then unlock them so this way you’d have to play through all the various story based groups to get the full roster. Something to think about.
Who the fuck cares about fighting game stories let alone a vs game's story
@@garminbozia I do
People said that D.D. and rook were
Too " flamboyant " .
That's why only ingrid made it .
@@Gatorade69
There are snk versions of these characters in the kof maximum impact games .
D.D. = alba miera
Rook = Sorrie miera
Ingrid = louise menyak
Death = jivtama
Much like Rival Schools 2, altough I would add some Arcade Mode to unlock them alternatively. Playing all Story Modes unlock the what-if Boss Route, like Dark Student Council.
You could make a what happened about Sony’s planned Spider-Man cinematic universe that would have been part of the amazing Spider-Man series.
Or the cancelled Spider Man 4 that was going to be a part of the first trilogy that would've made it a quadrology.
They’re still making their own “spider-verse” with Venom 2, Morbius the Living Vampire, and Kraven the Hunter. It’s all nonsense.
Oooh yes amazing
Yes! That or the development of Justice League to Zach Snyder’s Justice League.
@@Gatorade69 Honestly it's infuriating, but I think it can still be done and I hope it does tie in eventually. It wouldn't be comic accurate, but none of the Marvel movies are completely comic accurate
The greatest sprite dump game disaster known to man.
only second to BBTAG
At least m.u.g.e.n. Is free
XD
@@asianjackass237 nah, at least BBTAG was competent
@@asianjackass237 That one HAD actual effort though i mean at least it has cuscenes, this one doesnt even has that
@@asianjackass237 i know you expected a real blazblue and not that, but try this game. this game is hell
I had no idea Capcom had such a rough road to from 3S to SF4. Respect
I literally watched this video yesterday and now it’s being re-released.
"Noritaka Funamizu was a fan of animal Crossing and wanted to make a game like it, that wound up becoming Monster Hunter."
I kinda feel like someone missed the point of Animal Crossing there.
That would explain the little cat people you could ally yourself with.
@@joshhallam6342 The last time I'd checked the monster hunter series out sold the RE series, but I'm not sure if that's true since the release of RE8.
@@joshhallam6342 No one's saying its bad its just that its so weird to go from Animal crossing to freaking Monster hunter.
Its like wanting to do a cartoon like the Looney tunes and you end up making Yu-Gi-Oh
Not to mention this was one of the few opportunities Red Earth had to appear in a console game. Wish there were a port of the arcade one or at least a better fighting crossover.
Ingrid would appear as a solo unit in Project X Zone 2 years later on the 3DS.
At least she showed up in a game with an even bigger, crazier cast.
I originally bought this game thinking this was a game compilation where you could play those games separately. Oh how wrong I was
That would oddly make sense. Seeing the evolution of fighting games
@@DSan-kl2yc When I originally got it I just assumed that it was a compilation and I thought it would have been cool since I like Darktalkers and never played Red Earth
DUDE FUCKING SAME. Probably the worst birthday present ever.
Well that exists now
@@burningsexuality1540 Capcom knew about my dream and knew I was gonna preorder it
man you are not going to belive this one
Good god, I've seen fan hacks have better quality than this game.
Capcom are like a dice, except 5 sides are labeled "disaster" and just one is "yeah this ones actually good."
@@MrLednard which is what leads to a disaster
And like the actual company, DICE.
Yo, Matt... here's a little bit of trivia for ya! Post Strider 2014, we kicked around a lot of different franchises to revive and one of the leading franchises we were going to tackle next would've been Final Fight! Of course, we were bought by Amazon, so no more Killer Instinct and no more Capcom revivals... :(
....oh
Oh so _THIS_ is where Ingrid from Alpha 3 MAX came from!
It’s basically just a M.U.G.E.N game they threw together really quickly
Yup, and not even a good Mugen game with unified mechanics. It's almost as poorly balanced as slapping Guilty Gear characters into a SF and KoF centric roster.... Needless to say, the GG character would DOMINATE the rest of the cast....
Ironically, though, the menus and stuff from this game ended up as a popular Mugen screenpack... one of which I was fond of. So at least something good came out of this game.
@@DataDrain02 after years of only looking at Mugen and being initially impressed with graphics(37 year old me is back to a kid being wowed over 32bit systems over 16!)
I always have wanted to dip a toe in. I am very fond of the Capcom Marvel stuff. When I got my Saturn Xmas 96 one of the games was Xmen COTA and eventually I even got a mod chip(absolute wizardry back then) and paid huge amounts for the Ram cart to play Xmen vs Sf...
I've had the fun on MAME and enjoyed the CPS2+3 board, the latter totally underrated,
But can you possibly point me in the direction of a really good, properly balanced, hopefully with new characters, fun, 'must have' Capcom Marvel fighter? Sure MVC2 is the GOAT but maybe there's a MUGEN that you feel tops that?
Any help is much appreciated mate! 👍
@@mccarthy5825 I'd take a look at Capcom Universe: Nexus of Heroes. Still in development, and there are already builds for it. The creator is refreshing it currently with the Ikemen engine, since that has more advanced possibilities over Mugen.
@@mccarthy5825 I can't guide you to a Capcom Marvel thing since the majority of the people who have made those don't even know how or why it worked to begin with so their work is pretty bad and the ones that do know and make it right have only done individual creations and not a full game. However, allow me to list you a few MUGEN games that are good even if they don't have that crazy Capcom Marvel feel
- The Black Heart (Which was remade and improved for Steam)
- TMNT x Justice League
- Shades of Manhattan
- Gensokyo Reloaded
- Hyper DBZ
- Fighter's History Dynasties
- Card Saga Wars
- Capcom vs The World
- Famicom Fighters
@@mccarthy5825 GOOD Capcom Marvel fighter? not to my knowledge. You're better off finding individual characters (Like Iwakick's MvC2 conversions and KAZ's take on the COTA/X-Men vs SF characters) and making your own characters based off of them.
Man Capcom has so many Wha Happun episodes that I wonder how many more are in the *future*
That rly aint a big surprise considering how every game is riddled with a ton of mistakes.
this was the closest thing to Street Fighter x Darkstalkers. Ryu be fighting all these SNK and Marvel people, but hardly be fighting his fellow Capcom fighters :(
Closest in videogame form. We at least got the comics.
They're all friends at Capcom
@@nubeyazul Ryu doesn't fight Darkstalker characters in the comics. They left him out.
Hey its that Garou Mark of the Wolves song that sounds like Children by Robert Miles
Welp, Capcom Fighting Collection 2 was announced and this game is in it. Hoo boy
I second a return to Final Fight. Hell, adapt the old Code Holders plot into it for good measure so Ingrid et all from her cast gets some life beyond "oh, that one character in Alpha 3 that nobody remembers since it's on the PSP version that nobody plays."
Snk style characters would also make more sense in FF style wise.
The only fighting game that I’d asked for a refund it was that bad. It’s sad too cause it had so much potential to be a good game.
Not going to lie the stuff they wanted to do in Code Holders sounds pretty damn neat for the time especially Declaration of Victory which seems like it could have been a risk/reward version of the first Guilty Gears' Insta Kills/Destroys.
When’s the “What Happened?” on Robocop (2014)? I can't wait for this to happen.
We’re getting PEAK rereleased.😤
Thanks! I'd love to see an episode on the King of Fighters XIII. There's a great story to be told with the production leading up to it (the turbulent times as a company, the terrible but important Kof 12...) and also the persistent stories about a supposed second bankruptcy created by sprites animations.
Code Holders shouldve been a dedicated Final Fight fighting game.
Always a fun time when Capcom appears on Wha Happun.
The episode I been waitibg for since the show started.
Thanks to your videos, I have learned that Capcom and SNK are acronyms for the full company names. I'm 33 years old and shocked that I never knew this.
Not gonna lie, that Declaration of Victory mechanic sounds absolutely hype.
Thank God Ingrid managed to crawl out of this muck and go into the occasional cameos.
Even though this game failed atleast we get to see Red Earth character's against other capcom characters
The game is rushed? Balance is bad? Art styles and animations are clashing?
Who cares?
I'M A MOTHERFUCKING T-REX
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Valid!
@@Gatorade69 Probably because it never released outside Japanese arcades
@@Gatorade69 there different characters Red Earth is basically like dark souls you have to fight bosses and level up your character
10:07 How do you go from Animal Crossing's design and end up making Capcom's future flagship action game series?!
I didn’t even know this was a thing, this video blew my mind… Thanks again keep up the dope content!
i think Capcom has had more WHA HAPPUN's than anyone else. But i think Konami deserves this dishonor more than anyone else
yeah but konami clearly hates Silent Hill, Metal Gear, and Castlevania, pretty much gaming in general.
They are doing a great job executing 3 great franchises and then burning them and sending the ashes to the sun, then sucking the sun into a black hole and destroing that black hole
Capcom succeeds because of their failures.
I think that just goes to show how many projects capcom handles at once. Konami has less flops because they generally do less things.
@@joakkar yeah but konami clearly hates Silent Hill, Metal Gear, and Castlevania, pretty much gaming in general.
They are doing a great job executing 3 great franchises and then burning them and sending the ashes to the sun, then sucking the sun into a black hole and destroing that black hole
This is why Yu-Gi-Oh! is hated nowadays and they still do. YGO, SF and Overwatch are now joining the club of "getting shat on because they're owned by the companies everyone hates"
@@lukejones7164 That's just recently, before 2016 the company had well-deserved hate
And I’m just here still hoping to see Hydron and Hauzer become playable again in something, anything! Life is pain...
Those two were useless due to a small moveset as they were CPU exclusive characters in Red Earth.
I think that a Capcom only crossover would be cool, like make it MVC style and not worrying about someone else's copyright. To bad this game likely ruined it, given Capcom logic. Poor Darkstalkers....
Two things that struck me: Inafune was a businessman first even back then and Why the fuck did we all just gloss over the animal crossing = Monster Hunter part? That caught me so off guard I had to pause the video and think about it for a few minutes.
Who's watching this after the Capcom Fighting Collection 2 announcement?
Me 😂
I wished they picked Rival Schools over this. Seriously, you can't just put Project Justice in a collection and _NOT_ include the game that is it's predecessor.
And then a few days later, capcom added Rook to SFV
Nahhhh more like joe
I absolutely love that this series is still going and I thank you for entertaining the idea of keeping the intro and song, as it has grown to legendary proportions. You rock homie!
Capcom did put Sakura in Rival Schools: United by Fate before they made Fighting All Stars, and Rival Schools was internally developed. I remember being excited about Fighting All Stars from previews of it, but I was never excited about Fighting Evolution.
Never even knew this existed till I saw it in the fighters collection 2 announcement.
I cant hate this game as this game is the reason I got to go to Japan lmao
Omaga is justin wong
I wonder why this is in my feed so much as of the last few days🤔🤔
Dude did you have the inside info given the new sfv character ????? This timing is uncanny.
Amazing job. You’re better than most mainstream journalists
Ah, the introduction of my favorite SF character. :)
I totally almost qualified to play this game in SBO. Good times.
@@MrCageCat Super Battle Opera. The now dead Japanese fighting game tournament. It used to be the biggest of the Japanese tournies. Kinda like evo with the multiple games and all.
@Cristo Alba I gave up halfway into SF4 honestly, but the community's pretty damn amazing now and I just pop up to hang out once in a blue moon.
Not gonna lie...Fighting All-Stars looked fun af and the OC's besides Ingrid looked really cool.
Shame Capcom axed it.
@@Gatorade69 Design-Wise, Compared to the other two OC's, Ingrid just looks like Karin 2.0 while the other two genuinely look like cool characters out of an SNK game added onto a Capcom game. Just my opinion though.
Sorry but Ingrid is an OC too
@@Gatorade69 that's the problem
You unlocked a memory in my head I wished to have forgotten. I had this game on my Xbox... :(
'What Happened?' is becoming the highlight of my week. I can't wait for Saturday's to come!
And now it's coming back 😊
That portrait...it's like Okamoto KNEW he'd be in this segment and lamented too early.
The booze collection behind him really ties the whole thing together
Funny how this pops up on my recommendation just as the Capcom Fighting Collection 2 was announced a few days ago.
Damn, so that's where Ingrid's from. I fell in love with the character in ProjectXZone and lamented the fact that she was in nothing else at the time.
I remember enjoying the game,it introduced me to red earth,an amazing arcade game that saw no console release ever,but it has tons of potential
Same
Wait, hold the fuck on: the original idea for Monster Hunter was to make a game like Animal Crossing?
...I'm sorry, that needs a Wha Happun in and of itself! How do you go from "let's make a nice little place with happy little trees" to having to fight a giant ass dragon? I just...what?!
Devil May Cry started as a Resident Evil sequel!
XD
I like Ingrid ingeneral lol!
Also you mad lad finally did this "Wha happun?" XD
And final note, LOVE the Morrigan theme from MvsC 1 in the background!! :3
Wish ya the best Matt!
That 3D fighter by SNK devs at Capcom actually look decent though...
Damn lol anybody here in 2024 after the Capcom Fighting Collection 2 announcement?😂😂😂
I'm kinda crazy for Ingrid and her design. One of my favorite artists, tetsu, draws a lot of Ingrid, so that's where I get & saved a majority of his arts.
The single, shining ray of greatness with this game is the stellar Shinkiro artwork. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen these character portraits on arcade sticks and wallpapers, I could probably retire.
At least the music was fire. Also RIP the last time Red Earth was ever made playable.
Ah yes, that time Capcom tried to make a Mugen and failed
XD
hey Matt, if you wanna cover a capcom game that was just... chaotic, rather than a massive blow to the company, how about Megaman X: Command Mission? you'd even get to talk about the Capcom 5, which I'm sure a lot of kids these day have never even heard of!
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GUESS WHATS GETTING A RERELEASE
Now it will be added to the new figthing collection 2 hahahahahaha
Who's here after Luke's reveal
He's not the same dude
Truly the Biginning of the modern fighting game era lol
I still would've preferred all stars over what we got. Its also funny how this game is now part of a collection. I mean I doubt anyone was asking for it.
Speaking of Capcom, it's a more obscure title but it might be interesting if at some point you were to do a video about how horribly they handled the very idea of localizing the Sengoku Basara series outside of Japan.
Good video. Been looking forward to this for a while and I'd say you nailed it.
Hey, thanks!
You know Capcom is spending next to no money when they bring in Udon.
Didn't Udon want to help make Darkstalkers 4 but Capcom pulled a Konami and refused?
@@garuelx8627 No, they wanted to remake Darkstalkers like they did the art on SF2 remix, but Capcom declined because the budget would have been much much higher.
Capcom is the associate producer of What Happened?
You should do an episode on the Tak trilogy! Tak and the Power of Juju, Tak 2 the Staff of Dreams and Tak the Great Juju Challenge! Amazing 3D platformers that our heavily underrated! They deserve a remake
This game is the literal "oh shit we scrapped our one game lets make the most copy paste game for that lost time"
Hi there it’s back.
CFJ is literally a MUGEN game with a price tag.
And a bad MUGEN too, not a "stupid, but fun" type!
- V.D.
Exactly.
I was looking for this comment.
There was a MUGEN screenpack that was literally called Mugen Fighting Jam
@@DatDemo I had that one. It came with different select screens, one of which had a ridiculous amount of character slots (I don't think I ever filled them all)
If there is a character in the Metal Gear solid world, who's named "Laughter Sun" it wouldn't even feel out of place
I'd love to see an episode of Limbo of the Lost.
Sorry, but he isn't the king of limbo
I have to thank this game tho, because I wouldn't have been into fighting games without it. This was the first 2D fighting game I ever played and I haven't seen anything like it, I was mind blown when I saw Ryu pull a hadoken and I remember trying to do it but with no luck. Now I'm really good at playing fighting games and I love this community.
A game I would love a video to tell its story would be MK Armageddon. The team knew midway was going under, and the series with it, so they gave one last hurray to the fans
Didn't Armageddon sell pretty well and, while not critically acclaimed, still received decent scores?
@@BknMoonStudiosI think he meant more how the MK midway team thought it would be the last MK game until WB bought them out and then boom netherrealms studios and the current MK era we got now