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I like Geki. A female Geki could have been awesome..... Crapcom. I always enjoyed Geki's stage theme in the TurboGrafx CD port of SF1, Fighting Street. I really like his stage + appearance in the OG game, too. Good video THGM 😎👍
I have always wanted a SF1 remake by Capcom. I would like to see how it would be with proper controls and frames of animation. the original is incredibly clunky and barely playable.
Same. I would love to see a SF1 Champion Edition (or as AVGN once said, "SF1 The Good Edition") Maybe some Final Fight and Slam Masters characters can be playable.
I found an old Street fighter machine in a corner of a abandoned community center, I plugged it in and played it for about 2 hours. Came back the next day and it was completely in pieces and in the trash. The owner said I could have kept it. I have been regretting not saving that machine for 30 years. I'm pretty sure it only had two buttons? It was one of the original first production machines.
Yes, the original model only has two buttons because they were pressure sensitive, the harder you press, the harder the attack. The obvious problem is that they break a lot, that's why they changed to the six buttons layouts
See I knew it was special because I've never seen another cabinet of the original Street fighter! Plus it having two buttons, that's the second arcade I've lost due to other people's negligence. My stepfather threw away my playchoice 10 dual screen when I moved out. He said it was taking up too much room and I needed to come pick it up. I forgot so he proceeded to break it into a thousand pieces
@@NotYourUncleRuckus well I didn’t see him until the next day after I found the cabinet. I came back the next day and I guess they were emptying it out to remodel and he had some of his employees dragged out and throw it in the dumpster. i’m assuming when they threw it in there it just shattered into pieces because that’s the way I found it.
If Capcom ever decides to Retcom Geki and Mike as Vega and Balrog under a fake name and disguise to scout for new members to recruit into Shadaloo, I would buy it.
Mike I've always considered to just be boxer(M Bison/Barlog). Vega and Geki is more of a stretch considering other than the claw, they are almost nothing alike. If you look at the ninjas in the SF series, none of them look like pop culture ninjas, which I think is intentional. Maybe they're like "every other ninja depiction is kind of the same, our ninjas will look nothing like pop culture ninjas". That said, I LOVE pop culture ninjas like Hanzo from Samurai Showdown and Ryu Hayabusa so a Geki return would be awesome for me!!!
It was said Joe was considered to be in Alpha 3 as a convict fugitive, but that idea was transfered to Cody. One aspect of Joe's moveset is present in Cody's, where Joe's sobat kick ("Power") became one of Cody's command attacks. The convict fugitive idea is present in SF5's Shadaloo's database, where Joe uses the professional name "Super Star" to avoid be recognized. Interesting, Alpha 3 was the first game of the Alpha series to drop a SF1 character to return with a Final Fight character to "counter-balance", havind just a new Final Fight char and no new SF1 char (A1 have Adon&Birdie w/ Guy&Sodom, and A2 have Gen w/ Rolento. Also interesting, but off-topic, Cody have two additional command moves in Alpha 3 Upper exclusive for SFA Anthology (for PS2): Jaw Breaker and Wall Crusher. Finally, Eagle was turned "ghey" also as a Freddy Mercury homage. And I respect it 100%, because it's a homage to a great professional, not a forced thing. BTW, Eagle is my main in CvS2. 😘
Excellent video Top Hat. I remember being in elementary school when SF1 came out. I couldn't play it to save my life. I watched older guys play it and remember the first time we all saw the fireball come out from pressing all the buttons😄 nobody know how the fireball came out, but everybody was like "OOOOOooooo"!
In regards to Joe from SF I, you completely missed the real American karate/kickboxing champion he's CLEARLY a reference to - namely Joe Lewis. No, not the Brown Bomber. The other Joe Lewis was a karate and kickboxing powerhouse known for his murderous right side kick. Look him up, he's 100% worth the time to learn about.
@@LunaticReason I disagree. I know the video mentions Urquidez, and I know very well who Benny The Jet is. Lewis had similar moves in his arsenal. Yes, he was best known for his power right side kick, but he also used the spinning back and spinning side kick. Look at the game character and look at video of Joe Lewis fighting and training. It's as obvious as Balrog (US version) and Mike Tyson. Perhaps Capcom looked at multiple kickboxers for inspiration, and to be fair, Urquidez was more current at the time the game was made, but Lewis was still famous and well known to martial arts fans at the time, too. I just think the connection is obvious and more likely than Urquidez.
@@nowhere529 totally agree Benny deserves his own character. If you're a fan, I of course recommend you watch Meals on Wheels for his legendary battle with Jackie Chan!
I came here to say the same thing about Joe Lewis. It's not farfetched to think Joe was based on Joe Lewis, considering Sagat was also based on the greatest Muay Thai fighter in history of the same name. I doubt Joe was based much on Benny Uriquidez. 🤷🏾♂️
Thank you Tophat for including the Udon comics lore. While they take place in a diffrent continuity the events help flesh out the character backstories.
They really should. But then again, waiting for Capcom to do what I want with SF almost never happens. Case in point, the rainbow color explosion that is SF6's general art style and GFX.
To me the 7th generation console was the time after the Super SFII Turbo HD Remix while some major figjting games such as Guilty Gear and King of Fighters were still making 2D games with HD sprites. Sadly the concept was abandoned be Capcom despite recycling the 2008 Udon's sprites for Ultra SF II.
15:00 In Eagle’s defense, it seems like Morrigan’s charms don’t work on several characters. 😅 How many times have we seen a win quote against Morrigan that involved a character either ignoring her advances or outright rejecting her? 🤔
Fun Fact: Joe was originally going to be in Alpha 3, redesigned as an escaped prisoner. But during development, they decided to make it Cody instead. Which, annoyingly, saddled Cody with his awful prisoner gimmick for many years.
There is something charming about Ryu's design in SF1 Red head Ryu is cool. He looks fit but not hyper muscular like in later games. Like Goku in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai Arc (Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Capcom was race and gender swapping characters before if became popular. Now, it seems like every Marvel and DC character is gender or race swapped. Ahead of their time?
Joe, he got an official art card during promotion for Street Fighter 5, I think. He is also a suspected cameo in Final Fight Streetwise, which I do think Tophat has mentioned. He was a very basic character in the first game, yet I look forward to seeing him in more games. There is a lot that can be given to him in stories, moves, and design. I guess I just like seeing an actual street fighter in the franchise and not just action movie heroes.
You're referring to the character named "Ghost" I believe, who you'd fight in Little Italy. Could very well be the intended cameo of Joe, like they featured Cammy as an opponent too.
@@Kain5th SFll IS the sequel to SFl but earlier in the game’s development, Capcom were going to name it Final Fight ll but they never did because it had no real connection to the main characters of the og Final Fight but in later games they confirmed both games to be canon in the same timeline so hope this helps clear up some stuff.
@@Kain5th Final Fight was originally going to be the sequel to Street Fighter. The original name for Final Fight was Street Fighter ‘89. All the way to its release in testing sites. Believe it or not the only reason the name didn’t stick is because arcade owners and goers said that the game was too much unlike the original Street Fighter game so Capcom gave it a new name, Final Fight. In the story, Mike Haggar is described as a former Street Fighter, not wrestler. The story (at least the arcade) took place in 1989.
@@LSSJTHOR Final Fight was originally going to be the sequel to Street Fighter. The original name for Final Fight was Street Fighter ‘89. All the way to its release in testing sites. Believe it or not the only reason the name didn’t stick is because arcade owners and goers said that the game was too much unlike the original Street Fighter game so Capcom gave it a new name, Final Fight. In the story, Mike Haggar is described as a former Street Fighter, not wrestler. The story (at least the arcade) took place in 1989.
Awesome clip. My avatar in sf6 is modeled after Joe. I also previously had Mike and a Geki outfit. So far no one has commented on it when I visit the lobbies.
While the OST of Street Fighter 1 is decent (there are some hidden gems), the AST (Arranged Soundtrack) from the console port (PC Engine) is amazing!! I highly recommend listen Birdie, Joe, Eagle, Mike, Lee's themes in the AST Also the remixes of SF1 tracks in SFV are very well done! 🎵
Terry in SNK is just Joe reimagined. Terry's full name is Terry Joseph Bogard. The dev that made Terry used to be a dev, part of the OG street fighter. That dev wanted Joe to be the main character and rhat was did not happen. So when he became a part of SNK he remade Joe as Terry.
I think they should eventually put all the characters of SF1 as playable characters in future Street Fighter Games. Seeing Joe or Lee in a game would be awesome!
I remember Eagle appearing in a Gameboy Advanced port of one of the Alpha games and he was a tonne of fun!! I knew he was gay, but never knew about the Freddie Mercury inspiration Underrated character that I hope sees more exposure. Any other Eagle fans out there?
@@F1ghtGam3r In the official SFV site. Capcom made artworks for all Street Fighter characters who have appeared (Even the OCs from Street Fighter The Movie The Game and the EX series)
I refuse to entertain the notion that Mike, the African-American boxer who was banned for excessive violence, and Mike Bison, the African-American boxer who was banned for excessive violence, are two separate characters.
Also the only thing that “proves” him and Balrog are different characters is a dream. I believe they were always supposed to be the same character but Capcom retconned it for some reason
lol yeah obviously Mike = Mike Bison, but Capcom doesn't want to be sued, hence retconning the SF2 same character as a different one and the name switches.
Mike was not a boxer at first... He's a bare-knuckle underground pugilist till he got sent to prison where he's taught pro boxing by a fellow prisoner and gets released later Also one big difference between Mike and Bison is preference on wearing boxing gloves
I don't think Eagle was gay. I think he's just there for business only, and as a fighter, you can't allow yourself to fall for female opponents because it could cause you to lose focus of the fight and not to keep your guard up as much as you should and you might not fight as hard as you would have otherwise. We already know that Morrigan uses her charm on men for that specific reason. So why put yourself at that disadvantage? Just stick to business, get the job done, and leave. Now if he was actually hitting on some of the guys, I might be more inclined to believe he was gay. But until that happens, he's straight in my book.
Nah, fam. Nishiyama is on record saying his design was inspired by Freddie Mercury. Back then no one lived eternally offended. That's also why no one complained about the other English rep being a literal hooligan.
@@mappybc6097 Oh, I see. I looked up Freddy Mercury and apparently he was bi. Maybe only Eagle's image was modeled after Freddy's and not his lifestyle? After all, Eagle doesn't act all flamboyant like his real life counterpart.
@@EriknocTDW Go look up his Alpha 3 japanese win quotes. If there was any agenda, it was on Capcom's USA part who replaced them all with generic fighting game lines.
They should definitely bring that Ninja GEKI back, Street Fighter misses a proper Ninja that most Fighting Games have. He would make a good addition to the Roster, his Outfit looks Cool too.
I figure if Capcom decides to create a few new characters for SFVII (or even better, a much needed Street Fighter Beta/Bravo between 2 and 3), they might as well be Mike, Joe or Lee.
5:08 they turned birdie black because they wanted that behavior associated with Native and African Americans who also often rocked Mohawks and had brown skin 😮
At one time, I wanted to make a MUGEN game with every Street Fighter character. Then I realized trying to make a MUGEN game is very difficult. Just collecting the sprites from SFA3 was sooo time consuming!
Joe to me looks like a character named Joe from a 80s ninja franchise called American Ninja. There are are a bunch of films that franchise. They were made by Cannon films.
That’s because Capcom messed Alpha 1's plot up. The moment when Ryu scars Sagat and turns evil for the first time, should’ve taken place in Ryu's SFA1 ending.
I remember playing the original at a friend's from school, his brother had it, I had already played Street fighter 2 which just dropped at time but was still interested to see the original as I was blown away by Street fighter 2
I always kind of wonder for many years now that Retsu kind of reminds me that its possible he's a Shorinji Kempo practitioner in terms of his posture and hand positioning.
Eagle is the most interesting Street Fighter from SF1 despite his obscurity in the SF roster even though he was an expanded fighter in SFA3 Max it was said that that his Martial Art was Bojutsu not Bartitsu which might’ve been a typo in Alpha 3 Max little known fact his character design was said to be based off the villain Petrov from the Bruce Lee film Fists of Fury
Didn't the creator of Street Fighter The First and also Fatal Fury say the character on the title was supposed to be a proto Terry Bogard? Or am I misremembering? If true I think it'd be sick to bring him back as a Terry Bogard reference. Call him like Jerry Hogarth.
Pretty legit opportunity. Missed opportunity to not have the real obsure SF1 characters like Geki show up in the SF6 World Tour mode as mini bosses. I hope that is fixed though in SF6 season 2 and beyond
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Unpopular opinion Capcom vs SNK 2 was the best game the Street Fighter 2 characters were ever in, probably the greatest beat em up ever made (unlike SNK vs Capcom which were terrible)
Mike from SF1 does actually make an appearance in SF2. In the intro cut scene where there's two people fighting and the camera pans up the building behind them to reveal title. Mike is the guy getting knocked out before camera pans up.
I remember playing this arcade game as a child at Montgomery Ward (when the store use to exist). Art of Fighting became like an improved version of Street Fighter 1.
The original streetfighter deserves a remake and deserves to have way more better controls, the angry video game nerd would call it “street fighter the good edition”
Joe was supposed to appear in Alpha 3 but the idea got changed mid-development. It's why we got jailbird Cody since that was the original idea for Joe.
I always thought that the street fighter II intro was Joe punching the shit out of Mike but the guy in the intro has slightly different hair than the guy in the attraction scene lol
Mike is still kind of in it, since Balrog was originally called M.Bison, until Mike Tyson threatened to sue. So Balrog is basically Mike, he just got a haircut and was forced to change his name due to legal reasons.
There's actually a boss hack done by famous boss hacker Yumeji which lets you play as the other characters in SF1 and there's people that play it competitively.
Correction Top Had. Eagle's updated sprite 1st appeared in Capcom vs SNK2. They imported the sprite as an extra added character in home version of Alpha 3.
5:06 I swear I heard "and lactate strong back story" 😂 And Gen reminds of those corner shops here in Hong Kong which always claim they are having a massive sale, coz they are closing down in, say, 3 months, but still there after a year. Lol
Great video. I love ninjas so it is criminal the ninjas in SF are so non-ninja looking(at least pop culture ninja looking). Geki would be a great character(s) to bring back as a counterpoint to Vega...but no, we have to get beyond terrible characters like Rufus because reasons.
I doubt making Birdie black had anything to do with DEI; if your game's entire premise is travelling the world to beat people up, limiting your roster to a small handful of races would be boring.
@@Pax_Mayn3 lol I admire the attempt at continued trolling. NOTHING was ever based on Steven Segal. Dan was made to make fun of Ryo from Art of Fighting I'm pretty sure
@@stephencunningham9320 Steven Seagul invented ju jitsu which is modern martial arts, you're thinking of robert, robert is also steven seagul. He's placed in many games because he invented their fighting styles.
Good stuff I enjoyed this 1 😉, I never ever came across a Street fighter 1 arcade machine until almost 2 years later in the early 90's , I was looking for a Street fighter 2 machine as that was the craze at the time , I found the original street fighter while doing so just 1 time , I Guess no 1 really cared about a Street Fighter 1 as 2 only was on everyone's minds because of the phenomenonal impact it made but I often wondered about what happened to these characters after until now , this is the 1st time a UA-cam channel has discussed the topic , further more I think you can still use these Street fighter 1 forgotten characters in modern street fighter games I mean Chun Li never sent projectiles until Hyper fighting and Dhalsim started teleporting , Zangief , Blanka , E Honda , all got new moves added.
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I like Geki. A female Geki could have been awesome..... Crapcom. I always enjoyed Geki's stage theme in the TurboGrafx CD port of SF1, Fighting Street. I really like his stage + appearance in the OG game, too. Good video THGM 😎👍
Joe got a heavy reskin as Luke in Street Fighter V.
@@TexasHollowEarth geki=vega
No
I have always wanted a SF1 remake by Capcom. I would like to see how it would be with proper controls and frames of animation. the original is incredibly clunky and barely playable.
And a bundled controller that you punch?
The original is kino, but tooooo way hard.
Same.
I would love to see a SF1 Champion Edition (or as AVGN once said, "SF1 The Good Edition")
Maybe some Final Fight and Slam Masters characters can be playable.
Not official, but there are fan remakes made with MUGEN. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for an official remake, though.
Alpha 1 is close
I found an old Street fighter machine in a corner of a abandoned community center, I plugged it in and played it for about 2 hours. Came back the next day and it was completely in pieces and in the trash. The owner said I could have kept it. I have been regretting not saving that machine for 30 years. I'm pretty sure it only had two buttons? It was one of the original first production machines.
Yes, the original model only has two buttons because they were pressure sensitive, the harder you press, the harder the attack.
The obvious problem is that they break a lot, that's why they changed to the six buttons layouts
See I knew it was special because I've never seen another cabinet of the original Street fighter! Plus it having two buttons, that's the second arcade I've lost due to other people's negligence. My stepfather threw away my playchoice 10 dual screen when I moved out. He said it was taking up too much room and I needed to come pick it up. I forgot so he proceeded to break it into a thousand pieces
Ouch the original 2 buttons were rarer due to many of them breaking as gamers broke their fingers, sad way it met it’s end
So he smashed it up then told you,you could of kept it 😅😅, plus the Arcade shop around my way still has the 2 button Street Fighter 1 since 87
@@NotYourUncleRuckus well I didn’t see him until the next day after I found the cabinet. I came back the next day and I guess they were emptying it out to remodel and he had some of his employees dragged out and throw it in the dumpster. i’m assuming when they threw it in there it just shattered into pieces because that’s the way I found it.
What strength!
But don’t forget there are many guys like you all over the world!
You've got a lot to learn, before you beat me. Try again kiddo!
You've outlasted the best. You are now the strongest Street Fighter in the world!
AVGN: wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah!
Or the audio... "mmmm mmmm mmmmmm mmmmmm mmmm mm!"
I've always loved how one of Sagat's K.O. quotes in _CvS2_ references this.
4:54 minutes in before he stops repeating himself and gets to the actual point
I literally said the same thing and had to fast-forward
GET ON WITH IT! 😆
Thank you
Tyson should beat Paul's pre-teen ass dressed as Balrog in their upcoming fight.
If Capcom ever decides to Retcom Geki and Mike as Vega and Balrog under a fake name and disguise to scout for new members to recruit into Shadaloo, I would buy it.
Would make sense how Sagat ended up joining
I thought Geki was Zebu according to SFV lol
@@redeyez_entertainment Nah Zebu is Bushiryu so likely a rival to the Geki clan.
My personal headcanon has Vega as someone connected to the Geki clan somehow.
Mike I've always considered to just be boxer(M Bison/Barlog). Vega and Geki is more of a stretch considering other than the claw, they are almost nothing alike.
If you look at the ninjas in the SF series, none of them look like pop culture ninjas, which I think is intentional. Maybe they're like "every other ninja depiction is kind of the same, our ninjas will look nothing like pop culture ninjas".
That said, I LOVE pop culture ninjas like Hanzo from Samurai Showdown and Ryu Hayabusa so a Geki return would be awesome for me!!!
It was said Joe was considered to be in Alpha 3 as a convict fugitive, but that idea was transfered to Cody. One aspect of Joe's moveset is present in Cody's, where Joe's sobat kick ("Power") became one of Cody's command attacks. The convict fugitive idea is present in SF5's Shadaloo's database, where Joe uses the professional name "Super Star" to avoid be recognized.
Interesting, Alpha 3 was the first game of the Alpha series to drop a SF1 character to return with a Final Fight character to "counter-balance", havind just a new Final Fight char and no new SF1 char (A1 have Adon&Birdie w/ Guy&Sodom, and A2 have Gen w/ Rolento.
Also interesting, but off-topic, Cody have two additional command moves in Alpha 3 Upper exclusive for SFA Anthology (for PS2): Jaw Breaker and Wall Crusher.
Finally, Eagle was turned "ghey" also as a Freddy Mercury homage. And I respect it 100%, because it's a homage to a great professional, not a forced thing. BTW, Eagle is my main in CvS2. 😘
there's enough lost or forgotten SF characters out there to make up a fighting roster based on them alone
SF EX series
We need a SF1 remake
A prequel game focusing on a young Gouken and Gouki
And of course a rival schools 3
Or put young Gouki and Gouken PLUS Goutetsu in an SF1 remake
@@helpkirbyhasagun_2047
Gouken
Gouki
Gou Hibiki
Gotetsu
Ken's Father
They can just do a Street Fighter I remake and Tekken 0 for the Switch.
we need Skullomania in SF6. its current roster is quite Lackluster..
@@npsavat6799 If Arika allows it
Excellent video Top Hat. I remember being in elementary school when SF1 came out. I couldn't play it to save my life. I watched older guys play it and remember the first time we all saw the fireball come out from pressing all the buttons😄 nobody know how the fireball came out, but everybody was like "OOOOOooooo"!
In regards to Joe from SF I, you completely missed the real American karate/kickboxing champion he's CLEARLY a reference to - namely Joe Lewis. No, not the Brown Bomber. The other Joe Lewis was a karate and kickboxing powerhouse known for his murderous right side kick. Look him up, he's 100% worth the time to learn about.
Actually he is more inspired by Benny the Jet Urquidez as his moves resembles Bennys moves particularly his signature spinning back kick
@@LunaticReason I disagree. I know the video mentions Urquidez, and I know very well who Benny The Jet is. Lewis had similar moves in his arsenal. Yes, he was best known for his power right side kick, but he also used the spinning back and spinning side kick. Look at the game character and look at video of Joe Lewis fighting and training. It's as obvious as Balrog (US version) and Mike Tyson. Perhaps Capcom looked at multiple kickboxers for inspiration, and to be fair, Urquidez was more current at the time the game was made, but Lewis was still famous and well known to martial arts fans at the time, too. I just think the connection is obvious and more likely than Urquidez.
@@nowhere529 totally agree Benny deserves his own character. If you're a fan, I of course recommend you watch Meals on Wheels for his legendary battle with Jackie Chan!
We can agree that atleast VISUALLY he is inspired by Joe Lewis.
I came here to say the same thing about Joe Lewis. It's not farfetched to think Joe was based on Joe Lewis, considering Sagat was also based on the greatest Muay Thai fighter in history of the same name. I doubt Joe was based much on Benny Uriquidez. 🤷🏾♂️
Eagle's construction company gets a shout out in SF6 lol
Thank you Tophat for including the Udon comics lore.
While they take place in a diffrent continuity the events help flesh out the character backstories.
I would love to see Capcom “collect” all of these Alpha variant sprites, create the last few, & make a “high-definition” Street Fighter 1
They really should. But then again, waiting for Capcom to do what I want with SF almost never happens. Case in point, the rainbow color explosion that is SF6's general art style and GFX.
To me the 7th generation console was the time after the Super SFII Turbo HD Remix while some major figjting games such as Guilty Gear and King of Fighters were still making 2D games with HD sprites.
Sadly the concept was abandoned be Capcom despite recycling the 2008 Udon's sprites for Ultra SF II.
I always thought it was Joe and Mike fighting in the intro of street fighter 2
15:00 In Eagle’s defense, it seems like Morrigan’s charms don’t work on several characters. 😅
How many times have we seen a win quote against Morrigan that involved a character either ignoring her advances or outright rejecting her? 🤔
Fun Fact: Joe was originally going to be in Alpha 3, redesigned as an escaped prisoner. But during development, they decided to make it Cody instead. Which, annoyingly, saddled Cody with his awful prisoner gimmick for many years.
Prisoner Cody was 🔥 , I hate Mayor Cody!
There is something charming about Ryu's design in SF1
Red head Ryu is cool.
He looks fit but not hyper muscular like in later games.
Like Goku in the 23rd Tenkaichi Budoukai Arc (Piccolo Jr. Saga)
His papal shoes were weird tho. I mean, even Ken, a mere palette swap, doesn't wear shoes. Why would a karateka wear shoes while fighting anyway?
I didn't know Birdie was supposed to be black in SF Alpha. I thought he just got a tan.
.... Turkish U.K. migrant agenda 🤔
Yeah yeah, very funny 😂
Capcom was race and gender swapping characters before if became popular. Now, it seems like every Marvel and DC character is gender or race swapped. Ahead of their time?
And a bee stung him in the lips!
Haha same. At the time(10 years old), I didn't know there was a significant amount of British people with darker skin.
Pretty sure Gen is spelled with a hard G, not Jen.
*pronounced
Nobody cares
@@stariswartorn about your sad life. True.
Soft G
Hard G...golf, guess, game
Soft G...gel, gym, gist
That's true, the kanji is 元.
So lee is most likely Jamie's dad if yun and yang are his cousins
Joe, he got an official art card during promotion for Street Fighter 5, I think. He is also a suspected cameo in Final Fight Streetwise, which I do think Tophat has mentioned. He was a very basic character in the first game, yet I look forward to seeing him in more games. There is a lot that can be given to him in stories, moves, and design. I guess I just like seeing an actual street fighter in the franchise and not just action movie heroes.
You're referring to the character named "Ghost" I believe, who you'd fight in Little Italy. Could very well be the intended cameo of Joe, like they featured Cammy as an opponent too.
Canonically, Street Fighter II is the sequel to Street Fighter but spiritually, Street Fighter II is the sequel to Final Fight AKA Street Fighter ‘89!
Not sure i get that
@@Kain5th SFll IS the sequel to SFl but earlier in the game’s development, Capcom were going to name it Final Fight ll but they never did because it had no real connection to the main characters of the og Final Fight but in later games they confirmed both games to be canon in the same timeline so hope this helps clear up some stuff.
@@zkosmith1662🤷🏻♂️
@@Kain5th Final Fight was originally going to be the sequel to Street Fighter. The original name for Final Fight was Street Fighter ‘89. All the way to its release in testing sites. Believe it or not the only reason the name didn’t stick is because arcade owners and goers said that the game was too much unlike the original Street Fighter game so Capcom gave it a new name, Final Fight. In the story, Mike Haggar is described as a former Street Fighter, not wrestler. The story (at least the arcade) took place in 1989.
@@LSSJTHOR Final Fight was originally going to be the sequel to Street Fighter. The original name for Final Fight was Street Fighter ‘89. All the way to its release in testing sites. Believe it or not the only reason the name didn’t stick is because arcade owners and goers said that the game was too much unlike the original Street Fighter game so Capcom gave it a new name, Final Fight. In the story, Mike Haggar is described as a former Street Fighter, not wrestler. The story (at least the arcade) took place in 1989.
Awesome clip. My avatar in sf6 is modeled after Joe. I also previously had Mike and a Geki outfit. So far no one has commented on it when I visit the lobbies.
I remember the arcade at our mall had SF1,the version with the giant buttons. Miss old school arcades.
While the OST of Street Fighter 1 is decent (there are some hidden gems), the AST (Arranged Soundtrack) from the console port (PC Engine) is amazing!!
I highly recommend listen Birdie, Joe, Eagle, Mike, Lee's themes in the AST
Also the remixes of SF1 tracks in SFV are very well done! 🎵
Man, i really do appreciate your love amd knowledge on fighters and beat em ups. You never fail to impress!
Terry in SNK is just Joe reimagined. Terry's full name is Terry Joseph Bogard. The dev that made Terry used to be a dev, part of the OG street fighter. That dev wanted Joe to be the main character and rhat was did not happen. So when he became a part of SNK he remade Joe as Terry.
I think they should eventually put all the characters of SF1 as playable characters in future Street Fighter Games. Seeing Joe or Lee in a game would be awesome!
You forgot to mention that Joe was also seen in the non canon Final Fight Streetwise pitfights
He was named "Ghost" in that game, but definitely looked the part.
Very true
All these years, I thought it was Cody that punched the wall with the street fighter jacket.
Then who punched it then 15:54
@@kevingaje4654It was Joe.
Eagle is so cool in alpha, hopefully someday he will come back in a title.
I remember Eagle appearing in a Gameboy Advanced port of one of the Alpha games and he was a tonne of fun!!
I knew he was gay, but never knew about the Freddie Mercury inspiration
Underrated character that I hope sees more exposure.
Any other Eagle fans out there?
Geki fights Vega in Vega's SF5 ending
I never knew that, ty for saying
That is his disciple, Geki II, who is fighting Vega.
The original Geki died.
@@meganinten0078 I'm curious where u heard that from 🤔
@@F1ghtGam3r In the official SFV site.
Capcom made artworks for all Street Fighter characters who have appeared
(Even the OCs from Street Fighter The Movie The Game and the EX series)
@@F1ghtGam3r It might be in Gen's ending in SF 4. Gen destroys Geki 1. You should be able to find it online.
I refuse to entertain the notion that Mike, the African-American boxer who was banned for excessive violence, and Mike Bison, the African-American boxer who was banned for excessive violence, are two separate characters.
Also the only thing that “proves” him and Balrog are different characters is a dream. I believe they were always supposed to be the same character but Capcom retconned it for some reason
lol yeah obviously Mike = Mike Bison, but Capcom doesn't want to be sued, hence retconning the SF2 same character as a different one and the name switches.
Mike was not a boxer at first... He's a bare-knuckle underground pugilist till he got sent to prison where he's taught pro boxing by a fellow prisoner and gets released later
Also one big difference between Mike and Bison is preference on wearing boxing gloves
25:32 - 25:54, name of the bgm/music please?
I don't think Eagle was gay. I think he's just there for business only, and as a fighter, you can't allow yourself to fall for female opponents because it could cause you to lose focus of the fight and not to keep your guard up as much as you should and you might not fight as hard as you would have otherwise. We already know that Morrigan uses her charm on men for that specific reason. So why put yourself at that disadvantage? Just stick to business, get the job done, and leave. Now if he was actually hitting on some of the guys, I might be more inclined to believe he was gay. But until that happens, he's straight in my book.
Nah, fam. Nishiyama is on record saying his design was inspired by Freddie Mercury.
Back then no one lived eternally offended.
That's also why no one complained about the other English rep being a literal hooligan.
@@mappybc6097 Oh, I see. I looked up Freddy Mercury and apparently he was bi. Maybe only Eagle's image was modeled after Freddy's and not his lifestyle? After all, Eagle doesn't act all flamboyant like his real life counterpart.
@@EriknocTDW Go look up his Alpha 3 japanese win quotes.
If there was any agenda, it was on Capcom's USA part who replaced them all with generic fighting game lines.
Naw, Eagle loves the dinklage.
I think Joe was featured in Street Fighter2 opening when he punched the guy he fought and the camera then pan upwards to the building.
Those are Scott and Max. They've never been playable but they show up in the background of a SF5 stage.
They should definitely bring that Ninja GEKI back, Street Fighter misses a proper Ninja that most Fighting Games have.
He would make a good addition to the Roster, his Outfit looks Cool too.
This was a great video! I enjoyed your breakdown of each character and how they fit in the overall Street Fighter universe.
I appreciate you playing music from their levels in the background!
Eagle. I don't think he was a bouncer. As I recall, Eagle was the head Butler of the castle in his stage. Maybe he was retconned.
I'm surprised they didn't tie him in with Dudley
I figure if Capcom decides to create a few new characters for SFVII (or even better, a much needed Street Fighter Beta/Bravo between 2 and 3), they might as well be Mike, Joe or Lee.
5:08 they turned birdie black because they wanted that behavior associated with Native and African Americans who also often rocked Mohawks and had brown skin 😮
The entire roster should be playable always
At one time, I wanted to make a MUGEN game with every Street Fighter character. Then I realized trying to make a MUGEN game is very difficult. Just collecting the sprites from SFA3 was sooo time consuming!
@@walterlucero5757 big facts
Joe to me looks like a character named Joe from a 80s ninja franchise called American Ninja. There are are a bunch of films that franchise. They were made by Cannon films.
Michael Dudekov, and those movies are trash lol
@@stephencunningham9320Hey! Those were MY childhood!!
@@davidsentanu7836 mine too but you gotta admit the action is almost slow motion in the fight scenes
Excellent video as usual, you put forth a lot of effort and expertise. Great job from USA
You forgot about Joe being in the opening credits of sf2. He's the one punching the other guy before it pans up the building to show the logo
Thats not him. Those characters can be found in SF6 tour mode
@@jayro792really? Where? I must find them
You're right that was basically Joe and Mike from SF1 they just decided to make them switch outfits and took away Mike's gloves.
Keep in mind that according to SF lore, Alpha 2 is a retcon of Alpha 1. Alpha 1 shouldn't be considered canon.
That’s because Capcom messed Alpha 1's plot up.
The moment when Ryu scars Sagat and turns evil for the first time, should’ve taken place in Ryu's SFA1 ending.
22:20 Wait, wasn't Joe Fighting Mike in the Opening Screen of Street Fighter 2???
That’s always been my head-canon. But Capcom has completely different names on their website.
Does Joe punch Mike in the first few seconds of the SF2 intro?
I remember playing the original at a friend's from school, his brother had it, I had already played Street fighter 2 which just dropped at time but was still interested to see the original as I was blown away by Street fighter 2
I always wanted Geki back
In 2002 I bought a Turbo Duo only for Fighting Street ( Street Fighter 1).
Strange how Geki didn't make more appearances
Agreed. Great design. Maybe Capcom didn't want a pop culture looking ninja after Mortal Kombat came out????
@@mattm7798 yeah definitely and they put some of his design in Vega and Guy
I always kind of wonder for many years now that Retsu kind of reminds me that its possible he's a Shorinji Kempo practitioner in terms of his posture and hand positioning.
Eagle is the most interesting Street Fighter from SF1 despite his obscurity in the SF roster even though he was an expanded fighter in SFA3 Max it was said that that his Martial Art was Bojutsu not Bartitsu which might’ve been a typo in Alpha 3 Max little known fact his character design was said to be based off the villain Petrov from the Bruce Lee film Fists of Fury
Didn't the creator of Street Fighter The First and also Fatal Fury say the character on the title was supposed to be a proto Terry Bogard? Or am I misremembering?
If true I think it'd be sick to bring him back as a Terry Bogard reference. Call him like Jerry Hogarth.
Pretty legit opportunity. Missed opportunity to not have the real obsure SF1 characters like Geki show up in the SF6 World Tour mode as mini bosses. I hope that is fixed though in SF6 season 2 and beyond
Dude, your channel is so awesome that I pause a video and "pre-like" it before I've even watched it (because I know it's going to be awesome because you are awesome). Appreciate you bro, you are a legend. 👍
Any chance on a Fatal Fury 1 lost characters video? Granted, there are only 3 characters from that game that have never been featured again.
Michael Max being the least popular…
Fffffff I never noticed the Freddie Mercury as eagle thing before how did i miss that???
Unpopular opinion Capcom vs SNK 2 was the best game the Street Fighter 2 characters were ever in, probably the greatest beat em up ever made (unlike SNK vs Capcom which were terrible)
Did capcom make one and snk make the other? One was very similar to the king of fighters and the other somewhat close to marvel vs capcom?
@@mattm7798 SNK vs. Capcom was made by SNK.
SvC chaos is probably one of the most broken games out here
19:12 What's the name of this item? I might want one.
21:40 Boxing gloves?
The need to bring back Eagle.
100%
Noooo... not another blond guy character!!
Right time for Joe to make a return, having trained like crazy and be the boss of Street Fighter 7. It'll be a huge surprise.
Mike from SF1 does actually make an appearance in SF2. In the intro cut scene where there's two people fighting and the camera pans up the building behind them to reveal title. Mike is the guy getting knocked out before camera pans up.
Is that joe or Cody from final fight on sf2s world warriors intro?
I remember playing this arcade game as a child at Montgomery Ward (when the store use to exist). Art of Fighting became like an improved version of Street Fighter 1.
2:05, any form?? you made a video about SF1's remake.. abit from a fan, but still something.
The original streetfighter deserves a remake and deserves to have way more better controls, the angry video game nerd would call it “street fighter the good edition”
Joe was supposed to appear in Alpha 3 but the idea got changed mid-development. It's why we got jailbird Cody since that was the original idea for Joe.
Got a link to where that was stated?
I always thought that the street fighter II intro was Joe punching the shit out of Mike but the guy in the intro has slightly different hair than the guy in the attraction scene lol
I wish they bring them all back
Omg I wish Eagle to come back so fricking bad, hes an interesting character, he might even get with Dudley along etc. :)
Joe became Paul Phoenix
More likely geese howard
As one of the orignal creators of street fighter 1 left capcom for snk
@@Lupo32 wow, you are right!! 😦
I'd bet that Joe became Cody because Final Fight was supoosed to be the sequel of Street Fighter 1.
Mike is still kind of in it, since Balrog was originally called M.Bison, until Mike Tyson threatened to sue. So Balrog is basically Mike, he just got a haircut and was forced to change his name due to legal reasons.
There's actually a boss hack done by famous boss hacker Yumeji which lets you play as the other characters in SF1 and there's people that play it competitively.
I would legit buy an Ultra version of Street Fighter I.
22:32. He's not the blonde guy in the original SF2 Title Card?
What an awesome video 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Gen's name is pronounced with a hard g sound, like the word "game".
Joe had the funniest voices in SF1. "Powa!" That spinkick, which he does a bunch. And, "Okay babyyy," when he wins.
Correction Top Had. Eagle's updated sprite 1st appeared in Capcom vs SNK2. They imported the sprite as an extra added character in home version of Alpha 3.
I enjoyed this video very much. thanks!
Skip to 4:57 for the actual characters 😒
I'm an OG SF fan and SF gamer. But for the life of me, I…can someone tell me why they named that man Sodom??
5:06 I swear I heard "and lactate strong back story" 😂
And Gen reminds of those corner shops here in Hong Kong which always claim they are having a massive sale, coz they are closing down in, say, 3 months, but still there after a year. Lol
Great video with interesting info! What’s the name of the song at the end?
Great video. I love ninjas so it is criminal the ninjas in SF are so non-ninja looking(at least pop culture ninja looking). Geki would be a great character(s) to bring back as a counterpoint to Vega...but no, we have to get beyond terrible characters like Rufus because reasons.
I doubt making Birdie black had anything to do with DEI; if your game's entire premise is travelling the world to beat people up, limiting your roster to a small handful of races would be boring.
Why does the thumbnail remind me of JONATHAN MAJORS 🤔
All these characters from SF 1-5 and SF 6 roster is so barren. Dope video though! 🔥
It's speculated the Geki was Vega's master.It's also speculated that Retsu is the old man in the movie Street Fighter ALpHA Generations.
I've never heard of any of these characters, I know Dan Hibiki because he's the main character in street fighter though.
Awesome trolling attempt
@@stephencunningham9320 Street fighter was based on steven seagul, Dan is based on Steven.
@@Pax_Mayn3 lol I admire the attempt at continued trolling. NOTHING was ever based on Steven Segal. Dan was made to make fun of Ryo from Art of Fighting I'm pretty sure
@@Pax_Mayn3 also that still wouldn't make Dan the main character, but again, great attempt
@@stephencunningham9320 Steven Seagul invented ju jitsu which is modern martial arts, you're thinking of robert, robert is also steven seagul. He's placed in many games because he invented their fighting styles.
Good stuff I enjoyed this 1 😉, I never ever came across a Street fighter 1 arcade machine until almost 2 years later in the early 90's , I was looking for a Street fighter 2 machine as that was the craze at the time , I found the original street fighter while doing so just 1 time , I Guess no 1 really cared about a Street Fighter 1 as 2 only was on everyone's minds because of the phenomenonal impact it made but I often wondered about what happened to these characters after until now , this is the 1st time a UA-cam channel has discussed the topic , further more I think you can still use these Street fighter 1 forgotten characters in modern street fighter games I mean Chun Li never sent projectiles until Hyper fighting and Dhalsim started teleporting , Zangief , Blanka , E Honda , all got new moves added.
Eagle's character design was pretty much copied from the bad guy in the Bruce Lee movie, Fist Of Fury.
Joe DID appear in Final Fight Streetwise. But I guess that game is not cannon. 🤔
Joe actually did get an appearance in another Capcom game. He was a boss of an optional underground arena fight in Final Fight: Streetwise.