I really loved this episode. All the different aspects of parts 1 and 2 put together in a cohesive way…all the little Easter eggs… really cool. The acting was incredible and Pedro broke my heart😢
This show, at least so far, is about as perfect as you can get for an adaptation. Whatever it chooses to lift, it does so meticulously. Whatever it left out, it did so without impacting the story. Whatever it adapts, it does so for more depth. Whatever it lingers on, it chooses to with purpose. The Last Of Us is PURE GOLD in almost every metric.
Agreed! Like it answers so many questions because in most shows someone gets killed but by the 3rd episode it almost like they are forgotten but in reality if that happens especially if that person is close to you their lose is hard to get over and seeing in this show it almost feels like a real world. Like Joel and Ellie are both real people.
It’s interesting in the show’s official podcast the game creator explain, and I’m paraphrasing, that one of the reasons that in the game Joel is colder and more distant than this one is because most of the engagement between him and Ellie is through dialogue in the gameplay where you’re just seeing the back of his head. Besides cutscenes, there’s not a means to see the character’s face up close. In the show, it’s more intimate because you’re seeing Joel’s facial ticks, body language, etc., so it makes much more sense how Joel is depicted in the show because you’re able to get much more information on Joel’s state of mind. You’re not just listening to dialogue, crouch walking and grabbing ammo and scrap parts. The way I see it too, I don’t think about this Joel being “weaker” than the game. It’s that in a series meant to explore a person’s humanity, it’s loss/redemption and the consequences, it makes sense to have the person feel more true to life. The game is great, but by the equivalent point in the story you the player, as Joel, have killed a lot of people because it’s a game. You don’t have an arthritis mechanic in the game, nor ptsd and physical trauma from killing 30 people in the span of 5-20 minutes and being shot and patched up through scrap bandages. So in the context of the game, and the nature of it being a game, having Joel being more distant makes sense to me. But for the show, I personally prefer the way Joel is being depicted here.
Good analysis. I think some people aren’t catching on to that. A game Is different than a show. You have to tweak it for the show and they’re doing a damn good job.
@@kevinr5841 Also some gamerbros have the emotional maturity of 12 year olds and believe feelings are for women only. *eyerolls* It's so sad they have no self awareness in how they come across.
Joel is far from weak. I think he demonstrates that with his skills. I think it's cool they showed his PTSD and having panic attacks. It makes sense for where the story is going and how they're developing this. If anything, that will make his resolve later all the more significant. I thought it was great he opened up his truth to Tommy. It makes sense that would be the only person he would do that with.
The actress playing the wife in the cabin (Elaine Miles) played Marilyn on the show "Northern Exposure" (1990). Pretty much the same low-key character here, which I love because Marilyn was one of my favorite characters on that show.
Joel in the show is a softer guy. He feels things more than the Joel in the game. He's been having extreme PTSD since episode 1 and it's been getting worse for him physically and mentally. Add in the stress of losing Tess and witnessing the fates of Henry and Sam, and there's only so much one man can handle. Joel in the game compartmentalized every horror we've seen, and uses the excuse of survival in his mind to help shield away the stress. While the show Joel gets broken down each time something happens to him until he finally breaks in front of the person he's been looking for and is closest to him. Don't think one is better than the other, I think both are excellent portrayals of the same character with different personalities. They're both excellently written and acted by their respective actors.
personally i find joel from the game somewhat shallow as a character outside of his backstory with Sarah. I still like him, but Ellie definitely carries his character (as shes meant to). Here it feels like they're both actual people and Joel isn't just a wall for Ellie to bounce off of
@@ragnarok283 More human as in more real. Humans are emotional beings at the core, that's what makes them human. and to never let that out is to never be true to yourself and what you actually want.
This was perhaps my most anticipated episode of the season and somehow it’s BETTER THAN THE GAME! Jackson looks beautiful and Gabriel Luna is as perfectly cast as Tommy as Pedro is for Joel. But what really got me were scenes of Joel clutching his heart and looking up to see a young woman who almost looks like Sarah, and when he was telling Tommy the truth that he believed that he was going to fail Ellie and get her killed. I was teary eyed at those scenes, but when we got to my absolute favorite dramatic scene in the game when Joel and Ellie are in bedroom I was a complete mess. It was my most anticipated scene of the entire series and just like the game it broke me.😭😭😭😭
29:42 Whoever made that edit, you made my day. I needed that laugh, I laughed out so hard my roommate gave me judgemental looks 😂 Thanks @CinePals team
Graham Greene & Elaine Miles were just delightful in the opening scenes-would love to see more with those (wise yet humorous) characters...realize that's a tangential side story, but enjoyed them a bunch :)
We do see Jackson in Part 1 from far after we go get Ellie after she ran away because Joel wanted to get rid of her. We go in a hill with Tommy and that’s when Tommy says “It’s movie night” and then Joel change his mind and takes Ellie. And no, in the game Joel doesn’t experience any weakness because in the game he is fucking superhuman. He is an old man that can crouch forever, has unliminted stamina, is stronger and faster than men in their prime, etc, I get it it’s for gameplay purposes but the show is making it more grounded and realistic, they are making emphasis on the characters age like getting tired, loosing hearing from all the years shooting without protection, etc. And the scene where he gets injured he falls from a 2-3 floor, gets impaled, hit his head and yet he survived so I like this scene way more because it’s more realistic, there’s no human that would’ve survived that fall in those conditions.
I agree with you entirely. At first I was disappointed they didn't do the rebar scene (Because it was fucking cool). But then I thought about it and realised Joel just getting stabbed and surviving is way more realistic than what happened in the game. And when I thought about it that way, I changed my mind and loved the change. More realistic yet still shocking and leaving the viewers on edge. This show is just amazing damn
@@jakenader8821 Mjm, I like this scene more. That scene in the game is the only thing I didn’t like from the game, it was ridiculous how he survived. And yes this show is incredible. It’s taking the best aspects of the game adapting it amazingly, then expanding on it with more amazing content and even improving on scenes. It’s ridiculous, I had expectations but this show has surpassed them all. It’s so well acted, filmed and written.
But if you change the aspects of the characters the whole deal of their development and resolution dont work anymore. Joel being a tank of a man, a berseker, is part of the picture.
The scene where Joel expresses his fears and dreams of failing those he tries to protect isn't in the game. It's there as an undercurrent, but it's not explicitly stated. When Joel tells Tommy that he *needs* him to take Ellie, you can feel the desperation and then when Tommy sees how upset Joel is when Ellie was in danger, he realizes why Joel was so desperate and agrees to take her.
There's still parallels going on between Bill and Frank, and Joel and Ellie, like Bill saying he's growing old, fearing nothing until he met Frank, and getting injured in the gut
Joel’s reactions are natural to somebody coming of age. We are faced with not only our own mortality at this age, but also our responsibility and liability to our loved ones. This episode is a great (if not blunt) exposition on the latter half of our lives, where we either sink into our past, or apply it to our future. This is Joel’s crossroad into this stage of life, and the ending is also the same, but different crossroad for Ellie, of being the child or the adult in a relationship.
5:55 the realisation hits him 🤣. Yep yep,,,, they're pulling off a lot of Part 2 chapters already. I think they'll jump right in to Part 2 without any time jump. I'm excited and scared 😁
Fun Fact!! Well maybe not fun! In case anyone was wondering, the thing he was stabbed with is called a Bull Pin. It's a Ironworker's tool, it's used when you're putting a collum an a rafters together. You hammer it in one of the holes so the other holes line up so you can put bolts in them. FYI. An yes I was a Ironworker, knew what it was as soon as I saw it. Used one like it for 17yrs.
I actually like that they made Joel a human. I love the game but if a game character has same strength in live action then it will be messed up. He literally crushes bloaters in the game.
Also it's kinda hard in the game to explore the obvious ptsd and trauma this world would give you when every area you're killing hordes or ppl and infected before moving on to the next battle.
I loved the game alot. Some how I keep waiting for the show to derail and everyone say I told you this show would ruin it. It hasn't done it yet...this show has continued to be better and better than even the game at this point. Even if it fumbles now somehow which is pretty much on the goal line at this point...all video game adaptions should use this as a blue print. This episode was my favorite so far even with all the great stuff we have gotten already.
They have beautifully adapted the scenes from the game. Obviously, the characters can get away a lot of things in the games because of health packs and stuff.
23:40 where my mind immediately goes: -'Oh man, it's going to be impossible for Joel to survive this and bring Ellie to the west coast!" - "Actually, it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience"
Did you guys notice around 15 minute mark of the episode, you can see the filming. crew at 15:16. During the wide bridge shot you can see them. You can see them better on big tv rather than mobile.
I'm just so impressed by their portrayal of panic attacks that those of us who have experienced or witnessed them clocked them as what was happening to Joel right away. Also the gamerbros with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old are HILARIOUSLY losing their minds over Joel having emotions. Cracks me up. I feel so sorry for them. What a terribly sad lonely life they must live where they aren't a man if they have feelings. Then they wonder why women want nothing to do with them.
This episode was like a rollercoaster ride emotionally. When you started talking about the monkeys it reminded me of reaction I watched were they commented the monkeys jumped out the windows to snitch on Joel and Elle to the raiders below.🤣 Enjoyed the trailer reaction. Until next time 👍👍✌ out.
17:24 -- I've been noticing the sound designers have been sneaking that blasted "You're about to be seen" / "enemy just noticed you" sounds into the background audio -- frigg'n preys on your background awareness of "ohshi~! anxiety"
You are right, Joel falls from the second story on a piece of rebar which impales him. Ellie had to help him up. To be honest, that was kind of unbelievable so them changing it works much better.
@CinePals (Jaby), 22:22 You don't think this is intentional? This isn't the Joel Marlene spoke of or the one Robert was scared shitless of. Where's that guy? He's coming! But for that guy to come, Joel, the guy that Ellie cracked wide open, needs to come to terms with his past. Joel failed to protect his family all through his journey: he failed to protect Sarah; he failed to protect Tommy; he failed to protect Tess. And now that he's charged with protecting Ellie he's worried that he'll fail at protecting her too. On Joel and Ellie's journey, we've come across other families, and we've watched them come through for their families--well, they justified their actions in the names of their families: Tess died to protect Joel; Bill wouldn't let Frank die alone; Henry couldn't live without Sam; and Kathleen died trying to avenge her brother. Joel's the only one who hasn't followed through, and when he does, he's going to let loose.
I like when they minimalize the action to depart from the game. Video games paint your character as this supremely skilled hero that takes on 20 enemies and walks away, and that is not reality. So when you have a show that is trying to ground itself in reality a bit more than the source material, you can't have your main character be an invincible powerhouse killing machine. Joel took on that bandit with relative ease, which makes sense given how long he has been surviving in that world, but also being gravely injured in that one encounter is real, that kind of thing can just happen and you have no control over it.
Exactly! Someone who gets it. Like at first I was slightly disappointed they didn't do the rebar scene but then I thought and realised that Joel just getting stabbed is way more realistic then the games version and Joel is much more likely to survive getting stabbed than he is falling down a story and getting impaled by rusty rebar. So when I thought about it in those terms, I actually changed my mind and liked the change in the show, it's more realistic (Although less cool but whatever) and it's still driving the story in the same direction. Honestly I'm loving these minor changes they're doing and it just enforces the fact that this is not only a great adaptation but a great show
@@jakenader8821 Hmmm, that makes more sense. At first I was disappointed, cuz it was actually a pretty dope scene, when he falls on the rebar, tells Ellie to move aside, shoots two guys dead, wakes up, flings over a window to the horse and escapes. It made me feel that he was badass. And I disliked that the action is less in show. But I guess it makes more sense realistically.
Joel to Ellie: "Dream of sheep ranches on the moon." This sentence says so much. Joel already connects Ellie's dreams with his. Next episode Ashley Johnson (Game Ellie) will properly get an appearance in the Ellie Flashback. We probably already met Dina in this episode. Ellie yelled at someone during the meal. I think this is Dina. And if I'm not mistaken, she also sat next to Ellie and probably Jesse in the cinema.
Pedro and Bella are just so perfect for this You missed Dina from part 2 when they were eating The movie is The Goodbye Girl with Richard Dreyfuss and Marsha Mason I miss the workbenches and where was the flamethrower that they were supposed to pick up at the college?
I can't believe they went that far on setting up second season this early in the show. U guy all saw that right? Schimer, seeing D (I'm not gonna spoil her name) in the dinner, the house. It was amazing. I think this show is a proper instruction for how to make a successful adaptation. Love this show ❤
I'm enjoying this show a lot!😊. The cast is incredible, it is brilliantly written, and the cinematography and special effects are amazing. It seems a majority of viewers also enjoy it. There are also those out there who constantly feel there is not enough "action" here, too slow there.... is there really THAT much action in games or books, to satisfy those "passionate" fans? Should ALL events or dialogs be included, or followed exactly without explanations nor modified timelines (in other words, a 100% game playthrough)? Should cinematic adaptations even be done at all? As informed at the beginning of all films/shows, the story is only "BASED ON...." the world envisioned by its creator, not "copied from". Sorry, just wondering what your thoughts are. I have not played the game, and likely WON'T anymore, due to soo many spoilers posted on all social media, and compared in reactions (sorry Naughty Dog, not your fault).
Joel being vulnerable feels real, unlike the video game where he had near superhuman skills and abilities, because after all, that's a game, and this is a live action series. It makes him more human.
There is some speculation that the girl staring at Ellie when she is eating is Dina from Part 2. Not confirmed. Shimmer the horse in this episode is Ellies horse from Part 2. Minor Spoliers So the next episode is "Left Behind" basically showing Ellies backstory (DLC from the game). And I'm guessing episode 8 is when Ellie meets David and Joel eventually saves her from him by the end of that episode. Then I'm assuming episode 9 is when they meet the Fireflies, see Marlene again and Joel saves Ellie from the surgery and then ends with Joel lying to Ellie about what happened with the Fireflies.
Yeah, it's going to hurt. After seeing this masterful performance by Pedro as Joel, it's going to hurt a LOT with what will happen in season 2. And I can't prepare myself for it. Game fans know what I'm talking about.
Where are my natives at??? Those two at the beginning captured that native humor/assholery lol but all in all. Loved this episode. The scene in the bedroom with them two was very close to the game. ❤️
Also bc in the game we have mechanisms built in where joel and ellie become stronger thru learning skills and healing. Without that present in the show it makes sense to portray them as physically weaker to a certain extent
I don't see any comments about Maria, can we talk about how great Maria is!? As soon as she realizes that Joel is Tommy's brother she helps as much as she can. She even trades stuff to get them new clothes. She comes off as a bit cold, as she does in the games but she is such a loving character. I also loved how she points out that Jackson is built on communism. It feels like everyone loves what they did in Jackson but if you would ask them what they think about communism, they would probably say some bad things. It's interesting to see that little moment.
The movie they're watching is THE GOODBYE GIRL. It's about a single mom and daughter who get too emotionally attached to this guy who has rented a room in her apartment. It's really good and excellent use for what's going on in the episode.
After the series is over you guys should do a video comparison between the game and shows biggest moments. (Tess death, Henry/Sam death and Joel and Ellie moments)
I refuse to believe Joel is dead. It was a shocking scene but underwhelming end scene. In a sense that I didnt feel the emotions. (Felt same when Rick "died", in TWD, and he didnt). So just got to wait till mext week now to see how he survives.
The things Joel is expressing in the show was always there in the game, but in the form of subtext. What he's expressing here would have been a really tough sell in the context of the game, because by this point in the story, you (as Joel) have killed dozens and dozens of people. We've seen Joel break someone's neck this ONE time in the show. By this point in the game, you've used that exact move on so many people at this point that it doesn't have any real impact. Having an adaptation that's so true to the original while also changing so many details is like a master class in the difference in storytelling needs between a game and a show.
Ya that’s true, as a game it lends itself to obviously have more combat encounters, but in the show u get more opportunities to explore the emotional state of Joel that was mostly hinted at in the game with dialogue as u just traversed and looted when playing
I really loved that they gave us the emotional arguments, but didn’t hold the, out dramatically for no reason. These people are in an apocalypse, most of them get that grudges aren’t helpful in the environment. Most of them.
I think you're missing the subtle yet obvious scene in the game where Joel says "Tommy I need this!" It's him basically saying to his brother that he can't take her and he does feel weak and he does feel like something will happen to Ellie if she was around him. This show is showing us that side of him more. In the game its way more subtle. The man has PTSD. His reluctance in the beginning to take Ellie should be obvious why he doesnt want to form a bond with her or any attachment. Idk him saying he's weak here and showing his vulnerability isn't new to me it makes so much sense to me. Idk
Most of the time, Joel in the game much more cold and hard on Ellie and Tess. Much more aggressive. Even Tess got scolded bfr they know she was infected. In this show, Joel talk much more softer even from the beginning of their journey. If not mistaken, Joel start a bit soft after this event in the game. But before that, even he start to attached with Ellie, he still cold until this exact moment.
I think the way they did Joel in the show makes more sense, he’s more realistic for his age and it creates more emotional impact because we aren’t playing them. Whereas game Joel was a bit overpowered in a way and that’s because he has to be especially when you are playing the game and you constantly need to kill people, giving him more weaknesses don’t work as well. Plus as your playing it even when Joel is less emotional you feel an even bigger connection because you are playing as Joel and are protecting Ellie and having small dialogue moments. Having Joel more open and vulnerable in comparison in the show I think works for the adaptation to connect with him mor, especially for non game players.
Spoilers: Knowing the game, I think this weakness is a good setup for when Ellie gets captured. You will get to see the contrast between him now and the person he once was when he has to go on a rampage to get her back. The torture scene would have more of an impact too, I feel.
Jaby,for goodness sakes,don't compare the show with the game.Its just based on it. Take the show on the basis of its own.Its been a great journey.Enjoy it.
It's natural to compare it with the show. I personally feel a few things were done better in the game, but overall the show is doing an A tier job of adapting the story, living upto the hopes and breaking the curse that was being followed in video-game adaptations, Halo being the recent example.
Judging by the comments, no one saw the Achara monkey. 😢
29:44😂
Mmmeeeeaaaa
hhahahahahahhaaha
I'm pretty positive that the Achara monkey was also in the game.
😂❤❤
Seeing Joel breakdown and actually open up to Tommy got to me
I really loved this episode. All the different aspects of parts 1 and 2 put together in a cohesive way…all the little Easter eggs… really cool. The acting was incredible and Pedro broke my heart😢
Pedro who? 😅
@@huh..4591 Joel’s actor is Pedro pascal. Watch narcos he did a great job there too
This show, at least so far, is about as perfect as you can get for an adaptation. Whatever it chooses to lift, it does so meticulously. Whatever it left out, it did so without impacting the story. Whatever it adapts, it does so for more depth. Whatever it lingers on, it chooses to with purpose. The Last Of Us is PURE GOLD in almost every metric.
Agreed! Like it answers so many questions because in most shows someone gets killed but by the 3rd episode it almost like they are forgotten but in reality if that happens especially if that person is close to you their lose is hard to get over and seeing in this show it almost feels like a real world. Like Joel and Ellie are both real people.
It’s interesting in the show’s official podcast the game creator explain, and I’m paraphrasing, that one of the reasons that in the game Joel is colder and more distant than this one is because most of the engagement between him and Ellie is through dialogue in the gameplay where you’re just seeing the back of his head. Besides cutscenes, there’s not a means to see the character’s face up close. In the show, it’s more intimate because you’re seeing Joel’s facial ticks, body language, etc., so it makes much more sense how Joel is depicted in the show because you’re able to get much more information on Joel’s state of mind. You’re not just listening to dialogue, crouch walking and grabbing ammo and scrap parts.
The way I see it too, I don’t think about this Joel being “weaker” than the game. It’s that in a series meant to explore a person’s humanity, it’s loss/redemption and the consequences, it makes sense to have the person feel more true to life. The game is great, but by the equivalent point in the story you the player, as Joel, have killed a lot of people because it’s a game. You don’t have an arthritis mechanic in the game, nor ptsd and physical trauma from killing 30 people in the span of 5-20 minutes and being shot and patched up through scrap bandages. So in the context of the game, and the nature of it being a game, having Joel being more distant makes sense to me. But for the show, I personally prefer the way Joel is being depicted here.
Good analysis. I think some people aren’t catching on to that. A game
Is different than a show. You have to tweak it for the show and they’re doing a damn good job.
@@kevinr5841 Also some gamerbros have the emotional maturity of 12 year olds and believe feelings are for women only. *eyerolls* It's so sad they have no self awareness in how they come across.
ty man. ppl rlly dont get this. a show/movie is soo much different than a game
Absolutely this
Joel: I'm weak
15 minutes later: breaks a guy's neck
im pretty sure he's referring much more to his mental strain, he's still experienced in combat, just has super PTSD.
and gets stabbed*
Joel is far from weak. I think he demonstrates that with his skills. I think it's cool they showed his PTSD and having panic attacks. It makes sense for where the story is going and how they're developing this. If anything, that will make his resolve later all the more significant.
I thought it was great he opened up his truth to Tommy. It makes sense that would be the only person he would do that with.
The actress playing the wife in the cabin (Elaine Miles) played Marilyn on the show "Northern Exposure" (1990). Pretty much the same low-key character here, which I love because Marilyn was one of my favorite characters on that show.
Joel in the show is a softer guy. He feels things more than the Joel in the game. He's been having extreme PTSD since episode 1 and it's been getting worse for him physically and mentally. Add in the stress of losing Tess and witnessing the fates of Henry and Sam, and there's only so much one man can handle.
Joel in the game compartmentalized every horror we've seen, and uses the excuse of survival in his mind to help shield away the stress. While the show Joel gets broken down each time something happens to him until he finally breaks in front of the person he's been looking for and is closest to him.
Don't think one is better than the other, I think both are excellent portrayals of the same character with different personalities. They're both excellently written and acted by their respective actors.
this means series actually made him more human which should have been the case
I prefer the show because it personally makes me care more
@@friendlyatheist9589 “more emotional” not more human
personally i find joel from the game somewhat shallow as a character outside of his backstory with Sarah. I still like him, but Ellie definitely carries his character (as shes meant to). Here it feels like they're both actual people and Joel isn't just a wall for Ellie to bounce off of
@@ragnarok283 More human as in more real. Humans are emotional beings at the core, that's what makes them human. and to never let that out is to never be true to yourself and what you actually want.
Fun fact: Craig Mazin’s daughter sung the song at the end of the episode!
This was perhaps my most anticipated episode of the season and somehow it’s BETTER THAN THE GAME! Jackson looks beautiful and Gabriel Luna is as perfectly cast as Tommy as Pedro is for Joel. But what really got me were scenes of Joel clutching his heart and looking up to see a young woman who almost looks like Sarah, and when he was telling Tommy the truth that he believed that he was going to fail Ellie and get her killed. I was teary eyed at those scenes, but when we got to my absolute favorite dramatic scene in the game when Joel and Ellie are in bedroom I was a complete mess. It was my most anticipated scene of the entire series and just like the game it broke me.😭😭😭😭
The argument part between Ellie and Joel part is a tie with the game for me, the is just too memorable to me, but this show is just as emotional
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Whoever made that edit, you made my day. I needed that laugh, I laughed out so hard my roommate gave me judgemental looks 😂
Thanks @CinePals team
Graham Greene & Elaine Miles were just delightful in the opening scenes-would love to see more with those (wise yet humorous) characters...realize that's a tangential side story, but enjoyed them a bunch :)
I love so much the character development in this show. Compared to the game I like that Joel's more emotionally intelligent here. Like
And still ruthless haha poor baseball bat dude 😂
We do see Jackson in Part 1 from far after we go get Ellie after she ran away because Joel wanted to get rid of her. We go in a hill with Tommy and that’s when Tommy says “It’s movie night” and then Joel change his mind and takes Ellie.
And no, in the game Joel doesn’t experience any weakness because in the game he is fucking superhuman. He is an old man that can crouch forever, has unliminted stamina, is stronger and faster than men in their prime, etc, I get it it’s for gameplay purposes but the show is making it more grounded and realistic, they are making emphasis on the characters age like getting tired, loosing hearing from all the years shooting without protection, etc. And the scene where he gets injured he falls from a 2-3 floor, gets impaled, hit his head and yet he survived so I like this scene way more because it’s more realistic, there’s no human that would’ve survived that fall in those conditions.
I agree with you entirely. At first I was disappointed they didn't do the rebar scene (Because it was fucking cool). But then I thought about it and realised Joel just getting stabbed and surviving is way more realistic than what happened in the game. And when I thought about it that way, I changed my mind and loved the change. More realistic yet still shocking and leaving the viewers on edge. This show is just amazing damn
@@jakenader8821 Mjm, I like this scene more. That scene in the game is the only thing I didn’t like from the game, it was ridiculous how he survived.
And yes this show is incredible. It’s taking the best aspects of the game adapting it amazingly, then expanding on it with more amazing content and even improving on scenes. It’s ridiculous, I had expectations but this show has surpassed them all. It’s so well acted, filmed and written.
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 i liked that scene just for how ridiculous and intense that was but i do agree i prefer this more for the live-action.
A human can survive the way Joel does in the game. He fell one floor
But if you change the aspects of the characters the whole deal of their development and resolution dont work anymore.
Joel being a tank of a man, a berseker, is part of the picture.
Tommy's actor is fantastic, he perfectly conveys game Tommy, even in his voice
The scene where Joel expresses his fears and dreams of failing those he tries to protect isn't in the game. It's there as an undercurrent, but it's not explicitly stated. When Joel tells Tommy that he *needs* him to take Ellie, you can feel the desperation and then when Tommy sees how upset Joel is when Ellie was in danger, he realizes why Joel was so desperate and agrees to take her.
There's still parallels going on between Bill and Frank, and Joel and Ellie, like Bill saying he's growing old, fearing nothing until he met Frank, and getting injured in the gut
Joel’s reactions are natural to somebody coming of age. We are faced with not only our own mortality at this age, but also our responsibility and liability to our loved ones. This episode is a great (if not blunt) exposition on the latter half of our lives, where we either sink into our past, or apply it to our future. This is Joel’s crossroad into this stage of life, and the ending is also the same, but different crossroad for Ellie, of being the child or the adult in a relationship.
5:55 the realisation hits him 🤣. Yep yep,,,, they're pulling off a lot of Part 2 chapters already. I think they'll jump right in to Part 2 without any time jump. I'm excited and scared 😁
Having played the game countless times, the only part that made me cry is the scene with Joel and Tommy, showing Joel’s vulnerability, heart breaking
Yeah the panic attacks and his heart is new to the show. In the game I think it was held in all mentally and kind of implied.
Fun Fact!! Well maybe not fun! In case anyone was wondering, the thing he was stabbed with is called a Bull Pin. It's a Ironworker's tool, it's used when you're putting a collum an a rafters together. You hammer it in one of the holes so the other holes line up so you can put bolts in them. FYI. An yes I was a Ironworker, knew what it was as soon as I saw it. Used one like it for 17yrs.
Graham Greene and Elaine Miles a great addition.
I actually like that they made Joel a human.
I love the game but if a game character has same strength in live action then it will be messed up.
He literally crushes bloaters in the game.
you can beat up clickers with a baseball bat. Yeah the game strength won't really fly lol
@@donemu9096you can kill them with just a brick in your hand 😂
Also it's kinda hard in the game to explore the obvious ptsd and trauma this world would give you when every area you're killing hordes or ppl and infected before moving on to the next battle.
@@system0fadowner251 Yes
@@donemu9096 Have you ever tried it on a real person lol?
Easier said than done.
I loved the game alot. Some how I keep waiting for the show to derail and everyone say I told you this show would ruin it. It hasn't done it yet...this show has continued to be better and better than even the game at this point. Even if it fumbles now somehow which is pretty much on the goal line at this point...all video game adaptions should use this as a blue print. This episode was my favorite so far even with all the great stuff we have gotten already.
They have beautifully adapted the scenes from the game. Obviously, the characters can get away a lot of things in the games because of health packs and stuff.
The couple in the beginning was from a great 90s show called Northern Exposure.
Bella did an amazing job as Ellie so far, they chose the best person for the job.
23:40 where my mind immediately goes:
-'Oh man, it's going to be impossible for Joel to survive this and bring Ellie to the west coast!"
- "Actually, it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience"
Did you guys notice around 15 minute mark of the episode, you can see the filming. crew at 15:16. During the wide bridge shot you can see them. You can see them better on big tv rather than mobile.
Jabs laugh always brings a smile to my face. 😁
They've done such a great job with the show!
I'm just so impressed by their portrayal of panic attacks that those of us who have experienced or witnessed them clocked them as what was happening to Joel right away. Also the gamerbros with the emotional maturity of a 12 year old are HILARIOUSLY losing their minds over Joel having emotions. Cracks me up. I feel so sorry for them. What a terribly sad lonely life they must live where they aren't a man if they have feelings. Then they wonder why women want nothing to do with them.
I love the humanizing of Joel definitely justifies and makes his decision understandable if that makes sense
Favorite episode so far!
This episode was like a rollercoaster ride emotionally. When you started talking about the monkeys it reminded me of reaction I watched were they commented the monkeys jumped out the windows to snitch on Joel and Elle to the raiders below.🤣 Enjoyed the trailer reaction. Until next time 👍👍✌ out.
17:24 -- I've been noticing the sound designers have been sneaking that blasted "You're about to be seen" / "enemy just noticed you" sounds into the background audio -- frigg'n preys on your background awareness of "ohshi~! anxiety"
Achara is quickly becoming one of my favorite people on the internet.
another phenomenal episode this show just keeps getting better and better
This show has proved that video game adaptations can be amazing!
I really enjoyed this episode and your reaction ❤
Last scene, I think fake horse or horse freezed 🤔
You are right, Joel falls from the second story on a piece of rebar which impales him. Ellie had to help him up. To be honest, that was kind of unbelievable so them changing it works much better.
@CinePals (Jaby),
22:22 You don't think this is intentional? This isn't the Joel Marlene spoke of or the one Robert was scared shitless of. Where's that guy? He's coming! But for that guy to come, Joel, the guy that Ellie cracked wide open, needs to come to terms with his past. Joel failed to protect his family all through his journey: he failed to protect Sarah; he failed to protect Tommy; he failed to protect Tess. And now that he's charged with protecting Ellie he's worried that he'll fail at protecting her too.
On Joel and Ellie's journey, we've come across other families, and we've watched them come through for their families--well, they justified their actions in the names of their families: Tess died to protect Joel; Bill wouldn't let Frank die alone; Henry couldn't live without Sam; and Kathleen died trying to avenge her brother. Joel's the only one who hasn't followed through, and when he does, he's going to let loose.
The part about the contractor, is because said that verything Joel would sya, she will believe.
I like when they minimalize the action to depart from the game. Video games paint your character as this supremely skilled hero that takes on 20 enemies and walks away, and that is not reality. So when you have a show that is trying to ground itself in reality a bit more than the source material, you can't have your main character be an invincible powerhouse killing machine. Joel took on that bandit with relative ease, which makes sense given how long he has been surviving in that world, but also being gravely injured in that one encounter is real, that kind of thing can just happen and you have no control over it.
Exactly! Someone who gets it. Like at first I was slightly disappointed they didn't do the rebar scene but then I thought and realised that Joel just getting stabbed is way more realistic then the games version and Joel is much more likely to survive getting stabbed than he is falling down a story and getting impaled by rusty rebar. So when I thought about it in those terms, I actually changed my mind and liked the change in the show, it's more realistic (Although less cool but whatever) and it's still driving the story in the same direction. Honestly I'm loving these minor changes they're doing and it just enforces the fact that this is not only a great adaptation but a great show
@@jakenader8821 Bro nobody would have survived the rebar and Joel is literally a 51 years old.
@@jakenader8821 Hmmm, that makes more sense. At first I was disappointed, cuz it was actually a pretty dope scene, when he falls on the rebar, tells Ellie to move aside, shoots two guys dead, wakes up, flings over a window to the horse and escapes. It made me feel that he was badass. And I disliked that the action is less in show. But I guess it makes more sense realistically.
“I’m not as good as I once was, but I’m as good once as I ever was.” ~ Toby Keith
Joel to Ellie: "Dream of sheep ranches on the moon."
This sentence says so much. Joel already connects Ellie's dreams with his.
Next episode Ashley Johnson (Game Ellie) will properly get an appearance in the Ellie Flashback.
We probably already met Dina in this episode. Ellie yelled at someone during the meal. I think this is Dina. And if I'm not mistaken, she also sat next to Ellie and probably Jesse in the cinema.
Pedro and Bella are just so perfect for this
You missed Dina from part 2 when they were eating
The movie is The Goodbye Girl with Richard Dreyfuss and Marsha Mason
I miss the workbenches and where was the flamethrower that they were supposed to pick up at the college?
We also got Baby Shimmer, and ya I do wanna see a workbench also
I can't believe they went that far on setting up second season this early in the show. U guy all saw that right? Schimer, seeing D (I'm not gonna spoil her name) in the dinner, the house. It was amazing. I think this show is a proper instruction for how to make a successful adaptation. Love this show ❤
I'm enjoying this show a lot!😊. The cast is incredible, it is brilliantly written, and the cinematography and special effects are amazing. It seems a majority of viewers also enjoy it. There are also those out there who constantly feel there is not enough "action" here, too slow there.... is there really THAT much action in games or books, to satisfy those "passionate" fans? Should ALL events or dialogs be included, or followed exactly without explanations nor modified timelines (in other words, a 100% game playthrough)? Should cinematic adaptations even be done at all? As informed at the beginning of all films/shows, the story is only "BASED ON...." the world envisioned by its creator, not "copied from". Sorry, just wondering what your thoughts are. I have not played the game, and likely WON'T anymore, due to soo many spoilers posted on all social media, and compared in reactions (sorry Naughty Dog, not your fault).
I think the movie was The Goodbye Girl (1977)
Joel being vulnerable feels real, unlike the video game where he had near superhuman skills and abilities, because after all, that's a game, and this is a live action series. It makes him more human.
There is some speculation that the girl staring at Ellie when she is eating is Dina from Part 2. Not confirmed.
Shimmer the horse in this episode is Ellies horse from Part 2.
Minor Spoliers
So the next episode is "Left Behind" basically showing Ellies backstory (DLC from the game). And I'm guessing episode 8 is when Ellie meets David and Joel eventually saves her from him by the end of that episode. Then I'm assuming episode 9 is when they meet the Fireflies, see Marlene again and Joel saves Ellie from the surgery and then ends with Joel lying to Ellie about what happened with the Fireflies.
Best of this is Achara saying “he’s gonna be paw paw” 15:30 😂😂😂
The movie is called Goodbye Girl. It won Dreyfuss an Oscar back in the 70s.
Yeah, it's going to hurt. After seeing this masterful performance by Pedro as Joel, it's going to hurt a LOT with what will happen in season 2.
And I can't prepare myself for it.
Game fans know what I'm talking about.
This show has to hurt us somehow in every single episode.
Where are my natives at??? Those two at the beginning captured that native humor/assholery lol but all in all. Loved this episode. The scene in the bedroom with them two was very close to the game. ❤️
Also bc in the game we have mechanisms built in where joel and ellie become stronger thru learning skills and healing. Without that present in the show it makes sense to portray them as physically weaker to a certain extent
I don't see any comments about Maria, can we talk about how great Maria is!? As soon as she realizes that Joel is Tommy's brother she helps as much as she can. She even trades stuff to get them new clothes. She comes off as a bit cold, as she does in the games but she is such a loving character.
I also loved how she points out that Jackson is built on communism. It feels like everyone loves what they did in Jackson but if you would ask them what they think about communism, they would probably say some bad things. It's interesting to see that little moment.
The movie they're watching is THE GOODBYE GIRL. It's about a single mom and daughter who get too emotionally attached to this guy who has rented a room in her apartment. It's really good and excellent use for what's going on in the episode.
Thanks, I had been looking for the name for a while
This episode was amazing and the acting incredible.
That Indian guy was the main Indian actor in Dances with Wolves. With Kevin Costner. 😊
Pedro pascal is the star of this decade.
what a journey
After the series is over you guys should do a video comparison between the game and shows biggest moments. (Tess death, Henry/Sam death and Joel and Ellie moments)
I'm watching the show with 2 people that never played the game and they legit think Joel is dead. lol It was hard to bite my tongue.
I wonder if the movie that was playing was The Goodbye Girl, seeing as Joel was saying goodbye to Ellie, very briefly.
About the song in the end: that’s Craig Maizin’s 18 year old daughter singing it ❤
Oof that look Tommy gave Maria.....
I refuse to believe Joel is dead. It was a shocking scene but underwhelming end scene. In a sense that I didnt feel the emotions. (Felt same when Rick "died", in TWD, and he didnt). So just got to wait till mext week now to see how he survives.
The things Joel is expressing in the show was always there in the game, but in the form of subtext. What he's expressing here would have been a really tough sell in the context of the game, because by this point in the story, you (as Joel) have killed dozens and dozens of people. We've seen Joel break someone's neck this ONE time in the show. By this point in the game, you've used that exact move on so many people at this point that it doesn't have any real impact.
Having an adaptation that's so true to the original while also changing so many details is like a master class in the difference in storytelling needs between a game and a show.
Ya that’s true, as a game it lends itself to obviously have more combat encounters, but in the show u get more opportunities to explore the emotional state of Joel that was mostly hinted at in the game with dialogue as u just traversed and looted when playing
I really loved that they gave us the emotional arguments, but didn’t hold the, out dramatically for no reason. These people are in an apocalypse, most of them get that grudges aren’t helpful in the environment. Most of them.
6:48 Dina . . 😍🥺
I think you're missing the subtle yet obvious scene in the game where Joel says "Tommy I need this!" It's him basically saying to his brother that he can't take her and he does feel weak and he does feel like something will happen to Ellie if she was around him. This show is showing us that side of him more. In the game its way more subtle. The man has PTSD. His reluctance in the beginning to take Ellie should be obvious why he doesnt want to form a bond with her or any attachment. Idk him saying he's weak here and showing his vulnerability isn't new to me it makes so much sense to me. Idk
I think the changes just made him more human
This ep hit home for Jaby 🥹
Jackson was in the first one you just see a lot more of it in the 2nd game.
The Last of Us is The Mandalorian if Grogu wouldn't stop talking.
I love the show but episode 6 made me think this lol
Most of the time, Joel in the game much more cold and hard on Ellie and Tess. Much more aggressive. Even Tess got scolded bfr they know she was infected. In this show, Joel talk much more softer even from the beginning of their journey. If not mistaken, Joel start a bit soft after this event in the game. But before that, even he start to attached with Ellie, he still cold until this exact moment.
Part 1 did have a self sustaining place where Tommy was living, so it's not entirely from the 2nd part of the game.
Another reacted thought Joel died & got really mad 😂 she said if he’s not alive then she’ll quit watching this series 😂
Jaby I was wondering what you were referring to when you said you could relate to Joel in that regard….. it’s a hard thing to tragically lose someone.
I think the way they did Joel in the show makes more sense, he’s more realistic for his age and it creates more emotional impact because we aren’t playing them. Whereas game Joel was a bit overpowered in a way and that’s because he has to be especially when you are playing the game and you constantly need to kill people, giving him more weaknesses don’t work as well. Plus as your playing it even when Joel is less emotional you feel an even bigger connection because you are playing as Joel and are protecting Ellie and having small dialogue moments. Having Joel more open and vulnerable in comparison in the show I think works for the adaptation to connect with him mor, especially for non game players.
Winter…🥺🥶
Jaby is wearing a hoodie... That's one rate occurrence
Egg plant hoodie
“It’s super f****ng purple” lol love it
Jackson was in part 1 briefly
We're getting the DLC as a episode
Another brilliant episode! Pedro Pascal owned this one!
I walk away i don't want any spoilers... i will watch the rest of this video on the end of the season lol
Do people still not get what a panic attack is
That horse at the end is frozen :D
Spoilers:
Knowing the game, I think this weakness is a good setup for when Ellie gets captured. You will get to see the contrast between him now and the person he once was when he has to go on a rampage to get her back. The torture scene would have more of an impact too, I feel.
Hoping they do the torture scene and don’t imply it
"Oh poor Ellie has no one"
"She got Joel"
"Joel doesn't even want her yet. He's all like, "What do you mean us?"
This exchange had me dead 😂
They filmed that in Alberta Canada 🇨🇦
That look is/was when the wife/spouse knows somethings wrong with her husband/spouse.
i really am enjoying the show but i wish they bring back the bow and arrow and the silence combat haha i do miss that a bit
I loved this episode
Jaby,for goodness sakes,don't compare the show with the game.Its just based on it.
Take the show on the basis of its own.Its been a great journey.Enjoy it.
It's natural to compare it with the show. I personally feel a few things were done better in the game, but overall the show is doing an A tier job of adapting the story, living upto the hopes and breaking the curse that was being followed in video-game adaptations, Halo being the recent example.
Did anyone see dina
Yup