TWStuff - Women: Shunned if you don't want kids? (12.06.09)

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  • @bobo4848
    @bobo4848 8 років тому +57

    I say the women who don't want kids are the smart ones!

    • @miaa7097
      @miaa7097 7 років тому +7

      i knew i didnt wanna them since i was 13 yo
      and you are dam right im smart person; i did 3 years of general Sciences courses, learned English, and Arabic, have nursing degree, and now working on my dual masters :)

    • @Marinaglam2024
      @Marinaglam2024 4 роки тому +2

      bobo4848 true I don’t want kids and really happy about it doesn’t mean I hate them because I don’t we wore all kids

  • @Cat-ih2ke
    @Cat-ih2ke 8 років тому +34

    i don't live in fear for not wanting kids, i live in anger at being told "you'll change your mind" that is THE worst thing people say to me

    • @beebeetee2926
      @beebeetee2926 8 років тому +11

      +Servant Shinigami The worst is being told that I am selfish.

  • @KristenMiner3
    @KristenMiner3 11 років тому +30

    exactly,.. my sister and her husband didn't have children and were always going camping and on vacations. My parents would say "they have to settle down and have kids," I think they were just jealous..

  • @acaciarogersart
    @acaciarogersart 7 років тому +21

    I choose the well being and happiness of me and my relationships over having children, and society can't change my priorities.

  • @timjones2750
    @timjones2750 10 років тому +16

    Out of high school, I knew a few people in their 40s who didn't have kid's. They really had a great life. I knew then it was a no brainer. Made my childfree status permanent @ 22. Now @ 53, never been happier!

  • @jeanc7921
    @jeanc7921 7 років тому +13

    There are like a bajillion other things to do in life other than have kids. If that's your sole goal then you're going wrong somewhere...

  • @deannachristine845
    @deannachristine845 8 років тому +8

    "so what your saying is people are different, I think we've stumbled upon something" EXACTLY!!! 😁 dry humor gotta love it 👌

  • @raynarayskye
    @raynarayskye 11 років тому +7

    Whenever people start talking about their kids, I pull out pictures of my cats having a birthday party. When they act like that's weird or they act like they don't care, I let them know that's how I felt looking at pics of their crumb snatchers.

  • @christinemarie6976
    @christinemarie6976 7 років тому +13

    Cameron Diaz is 44 now and still has no children.

    • @MickJaggerLoveChild
      @MickJaggerLoveChild 7 років тому +5

      lol theres still time! ;) I kind of hope she dosen't tho......we need more famous women like Helen Mirren and Kim Catrall to say that it is OK if u don't want children!! I think a lot of the time people with children are jealous of those who don't, and so therefore are mean and try to pressure people to join them on their side of the fence!! ;)

    • @christinemarie6976
      @christinemarie6976 7 років тому +8

      Georgina Lewis
      LOL No amount of shaming was ever going to get me to change my mind. I've felt this way ever since I was 8 years old. I'm 51 now and people STILL talk to me like I might still decide to have a child. Not going to happen.

    • @Achilles94627
      @Achilles94627 4 роки тому +1

      She does have a child now..

  • @milkjamjuice
    @milkjamjuice 11 років тому +10

    That's one of the things that does it for me. My friends who are parents and who have told me at one point or another they wish that they never had kids.

  • @24tuccu
    @24tuccu 9 років тому +10

    anti natal-ism should be practiced until the world is fit for life

    • @johncronin3105
      @johncronin3105 4 роки тому +3

      This world will NEVER be fit for life.

  • @FlashySenap
    @FlashySenap 10 років тому +9

    It's all about how the child will benefit you and your life. If it doesn't allow you to become the best you can be then a child should not be a choice one would make.

  • @meganhulan
    @meganhulan 10 років тому +14

    It's nice to hear people openly discussing this topic. I can see the pressure for some to decide to have children as you see more and more friends having children and your social circle changes or dwindles. I really like how "Miranda" puts forth her theories.
    I'm 28 and married to my husband for 2 years (been together for 6 years). No plans for kids now or ever. :)
    Ever since I was in high school I became aware that I didn't want to have children. It's difficult to proclaim you decision and back it up when everyone is undermining your choice not to have them. Oh you'll change your mind. Oh you're young, you have plenty of time. Wait til you get older. It makes you wonder, will I regret not having kids? Am I really missing out? Much of society expects a person to go to school, get a job, get married, have kids. I wrestled with this because of society's view being "When are you having kids?" and if you don't then that must mean: you are a selfish person who will be lonely with no one to take care of you.
    Just to note that, it really drives me when people say these things: if they're afraid of being lonely or that they need someone to take care of them when they're old then maybe they should be producing better retirement plans vs possible retirement child. There's never a guarantee that your needs will be met by your children (nor should that be asked of them) and if those are your reasons for having children (having a care taker and to have company) then you shouldn't be having any.
    If you do want to have a child then you give them everything you can and the best of everything. It's about them now, many parts about you are put aside. You're doing this to have someone to share your love, watch them grow, share traditions and want the best for them. It's not right to expect anything in return. That is not the reason you brought this child into this world and this is a burden that shouldn't be expected of your child.
    I for one, do not like children. I find them annoying, time consuming, dirty, loud, expensive, rude, greedy, exhausting, and sure, they're kids! That's normal! What do you expect? I just know the pros do not outweigh the cons when it comes to me having a child. I don't want the responsibility or the commitment because cute babies are not babies for long (like puppies which I would much rather have) and your life is never the same. I love my nephews, my nieces and my friend's babies but because I know them and I can decide when to come and go. I like my life. I like to spend my money, use my time and make plans based on myself and my husband. Not a kid.
    It's frustrating when people seem shocked or judge or ask why? First, how rude of you to ask! What if I can't have children? Thanks a lot for pointing that out. Secondly, what's it matter to you? You gonna raise it? The annoyance and ignorance just continues. Children give your life meaning! No, children give YOUR life meaning. Why don't you want children? Um, why DO you want children? You don't know love til you have a child! I'm fine with that. I have the love of my husband, my friends, my parents, my furbabies and many others in my life to make me feel love and be loved. You'll want kids when you find the right man! Excuse me? My husband makes me plenty happy and vice versa, I don't need children to validate this. You're being selfish and you will regret it one day! Not likely. More selfish to have children for retirement or loneliness. Women are meant to be mothers, the world depends on it! There are 7 billion people on the planet, estimated 9 billion by the end of my generation.
    The backlash and the shock was hard to deal with but I'm working in a much bigger city where the majority of my coworkers seem to be more on my wave of thinking. I have the added benefit of having a husband who shares my ideals and my parents are not the type to be hounding for grandchildren. They agree that not having them can lead to a life that can be just as fulfilling.
    I lead a very happy and fulfilled life with my furbabies and my husband (we have 5 kitties and we're slowly moving up to a dog), I'm now much more comfortable in our relationship admitting this than I did in my early 20's. I choose to be child-free and relish it.

    • @catspaw3092
      @catspaw3092 9 років тому +6

      megan ivy You said it in a nutshell people are shocked when they ask me if I have kids and I said no they look at me like really? I never ask if they have kids because 1. I don't care it's your life. 2. It's none of my business. So why do they feel that's it's their right to impress on me to have kids when I simply say that I don't want them. I want to snap and say fuck off my your own damn business what do you care if I don't want kids or not. That will shut them up real fast those people that want kids will have kids those that don't well the worlds not coming to an end so it's a win win situation here.

    • @meganhulan
      @meganhulan 9 років тому +4

      Tiffany Days totally agree. how does your womb status affect them???

    • @catspaw3092
      @catspaw3092 9 років тому +7

      As for the who is going to take care of you when you get old well, that's what caregivers or home healthaid nurses are for, especially if you don't want to live in a retirement home. Having kids so they can take care of you when you get old? Those kids you raised some will not want to be bothered with that burden of looking after their parents because now they want their own lives. Especially if they move to away from home they don't want to spend money, time and energy looking after mom and dad. Then you have some parents that get so attached and rely heavily on their kids that they have a hard time letting go and they want their kids to always be there for them. But those kids want to get away from their parents and when they do the parents get angry and say "After all I've done for you, I've given you everything, bringing you into this world and now you don't want to take care of me? How can you be so selfish?" Making your kids feel like you did them a huge favor.

  • @ViolaHGlaze
    @ViolaHGlaze 6 років тому +3

    Some people feel threatened by women who don't have or want kids...they don't have a category to put the childless woman into....some people are envious of the freedom but don't want to admit it to themselves..once you have a baby you can't take it back

  • @ChastityChained
    @ChastityChained 7 років тому +6

    28 and child-free here. One of the smartest decisions that I ever made.

    • @Achilles94627
      @Achilles94627 6 років тому

      Well at 28 you're still pretty young. You may change your mind...

    • @charleneirwin8656
      @charleneirwin8656 6 років тому +2

      ChastityChained amen

    • @Marinaglam2024
      @Marinaglam2024 4 роки тому

      Achilles94627 you don’t say that to someone age has nothing to do with that mind your business

    • @silverselina2382
      @silverselina2382 4 роки тому

      @@Achilles94627 I've never changed my mind about not wanting to have children so why should she?!

    • @Achilles94627
      @Achilles94627 4 роки тому +1

      @@Marinaglam2024 What do you mean age has got nothing to do with it? The average age to have your first child in the UK is now 29, so there's nothing remarkable about being 28 and child free. It's like saying "I'm 16 and still a virgin - best decision I ever made". Things might change!

  • @aliased
    @aliased 10 років тому +3

    I agree.
    they cannot stand the idea of someone else escaping the husk status.
    What most fail to discern is how much hostility is usually behind what you describe.

  • @surrealist2k
    @surrealist2k 11 років тому +6

    I'm 46 never had kids never want any. Even mores so now at this age.

  • @shybettigurl
    @shybettigurl 13 років тому +4

    @onlybaby90 I don't know why people expect women to have kids. I don't want them either.

  • @cherryblossom789
    @cherryblossom789 11 років тому +7

    the last caller said that when you become a mother, you will inevitably realize that this was what you wanted all along. This may be true for many, but just look at 'secret confession: I hate being a mother' to see that there are a lot of women who don't like being a mother,it was a terrible mistake for them. You need to concider your personality and priorities in life before deciding

    • @Emiliapocalypse
      @Emiliapocalypse 6 років тому +2

      ann3tt Right?!! I’ve read those confessions. there’s a few forums online where it seems hundreds of women have posted to discuss their regrets anonymously. I’m shocked that people could be so narrow minded as to think the thing that changed their life for the better is a one-size-fits-all panacea for the masses. Strange!!

  • @watermelonineasterhay
    @watermelonineasterhay 11 років тому +6

    Oh yeah childbirth, nappies, potty training, bed wetting, screaming, saggy tits, sleepless nights, lack of freedom, money, flexibility, career choices, competition from other mums, emotional vulnerability, puberty, vile teenagers, teenage pregnancy, putting on weight, paying for students, empty nest syndrome, pressure at school, bullying, homework, even losing a relationship... and being told they hate you after all that? How can you not want children?? :S :S I pity every parent in the world.

    • @pnklady3788
      @pnklady3788 6 років тому

      deaconredwhiteandblu YES!! Brilliant!!

  • @moggoon
    @moggoon 13 років тому +2

    7 billion people in this world, we don't need more. Save the money you would have to spend on children and enjoy your life spending it.

  • @reklamedamereloaded
    @reklamedamereloaded 10 років тому +12

    Well Wendy... you're wrong!

    • @leslieyancey5084
      @leslieyancey5084 10 років тому +7

      My thoughts exactly! It doesn't work that way for all women.

  • @chyzar
    @chyzar 6 років тому +3

    I am 69yr, never wanted kids and still happy with my choice.

  • @trevagraham1605
    @trevagraham1605 6 років тому +5

    Women without children are the best!!! End of story!

  • @BintyMcFrazzles
    @BintyMcFrazzles 11 років тому +6

    I'm 38. I can assure you, Matthew, I will NOT change my mind!!!

  • @Mellyouttaphase
    @Mellyouttaphase 6 років тому +2

    There is a difference between women who aren’t prioritising having children now and those who have made a conscious decision because they have realised that they Never. Want. Children.

  • @DiligoBarba
    @DiligoBarba 11 років тому +3

    She was sexually active during the 15 years but never got pregnant! I asked her how she did this...SIMPLE she said.
    " Don't have sex when you OVULATE !" Now she didn't even know exactly when this was,she just never did anything the week leading up to her period.
    Remember now this is BEFORE the pill,condom,patch,diaphragm.This is before EVERYTHING.And yet she STILL managed to have a kid when she wanted one.Because she Knew her body. Made a plan and stuck with it.

  • @EricSchwin22
    @EricSchwin22 12 років тому +2

    I'm a guy and honestly I do not want any children...but do I hate kids? No! I think they're cute and I've seen really cute babies, but I couldn't take care of one myself...the responsibility would be a burden, but high five to parents that can take care of kids.
    I've been scorned, and I've been told by family members that I have not grown up yet and that's unfair....I just want to enjoy my life reading books, traveling a lot more to many different places, and I enjoy my privacy child free.

  • @VikingLady219
    @VikingLady219 12 років тому +4

    It is just awful that women like myself and the caller, Miranda (close to my age) get bingoed with such rude remarks because we choose not to have babies. A friend who has a kid who often drives her nuts often asks me if I am ever going to have a baby....geez, sounds like misery loves company.

  • @johncronin3105
    @johncronin3105 4 роки тому +2

    People with kids are so boring, self centered and have nothing to contribute.

  • @lamenzies
    @lamenzies 13 років тому +2

    Take time off to have kids --> be denied promotion.
    Choose not to have kids --> be denied promotion.
    Any bloody excuse to deny women promotion will do.

  • @TheWeirdPlant
    @TheWeirdPlant 13 років тому +1

    Conclusion of the show: people are different! Hilarious. XD I love this.

  • @LissyLondon
    @LissyLondon 10 років тому +4

    I think it's funny that the second woman that called talked about women "thinking it was a handbag they were missing from their life, but it's really a child". She admitted to being a partier, etc... I'm thinking she was a very shallow woman in her 40's despite having a child. As a childfree happily married female I realized the other day that I had not a single desire to buy anything. I own everything that I could ever want. I am happy being me I feel fulfilled maybe she was not happy herself.

  • @TheBedroomDiary
    @TheBedroomDiary 9 років тому +3

    Preach Black Lady!!!

  • @MrOrcshaman
    @MrOrcshaman 10 років тому +3

    Any employer who will not hire someone because they decide not to have children should get stuffed, what a ridiculous concept to pin on someone, do these people even understand the pressure of working AND raising kids?

  • @safiyahmoffatt4966
    @safiyahmoffatt4966 4 роки тому

    I have only had one child due to fertility problems. The most hurtful thing someone said was, "You only had one child? What's the matter, do you hate kids?" I didn't bother telling them my business, but I find people to be very ignorant with this subject.

  • @Kayelle1980
    @Kayelle1980 14 років тому +2

    You can't do anything right. if you do have kids, employers fear that you'll get another one and go on maternity leave, or that we'll want to work lesser hours because if kids. If we don't have kids, we're "cold".
    Seems like the only women they want to employ are under 25 (but they do have to have two degrees and 3 years of experience by then)

  • @onlybaby90
    @onlybaby90 15 років тому +2

    I don't want kids and people look at me like I have three eyes.

  • @Dietlind1
    @Dietlind1 12 років тому +1

    i'd love to have a child. BUT i don't think i would be a good parent. i think about babies often and i get so stressed. i love them, but i'm so afraid that i won't raise them ok.

  • @Crystal0mask
    @Crystal0mask 13 років тому +2

    These guys where awesome, so open minded. I never want children, I will hopefully get sterilized soon

  • @classicdinner
    @classicdinner 12 років тому +2

    kids at 40 FUCK NO

  • @DiligoBarba
    @DiligoBarba 11 років тому +1

    I have followed her example. Decided never to have kids, two days after Gram gave me this plan for controlling pregnancy. And it's been over 25 years now. And I'm perfectly capable of having a kid. I just don't want one! So I don't do anything 3 days before my period, use two types of birth control at all times.And have Never had a problem. This is not hard. Nor is pregnancy an inevitable part of life.Girls simply need to get a plan, and learn how there bodies work.

  • @Achilles94627
    @Achilles94627 4 роки тому +1

    "Shouldn't we say thank you very much to gay people who are not having babies?"
    What??
    Gay people don't have babies. Two men cannot create a child. They either use a surrogate mother, in which case they are having a baby with a woman, or they adopt, in which case the baby has already been born (to a man and a woman). Why did he bring gay people into it?? What a nonsensical comment.

  • @cavejourney
    @cavejourney 12 років тому +2

    Perhaps Miranda's friends are jealous. Child free people have more disposable income and free time. When my coworkers talk about their kids all they do is complain.

  • @wishywashygirl19
    @wishywashygirl19 12 років тому +2

    @onlybaby90 Someone called me selfish because i said i did not want to spend all my money on a kid. I dont have children and if i know i like to have enough money to enjoy my life they get mad

  • @dottore1234
    @dottore1234 12 років тому +1

    That is exactly what it is. I don't know how many people I see with kids that have that FML look to their faces. Every time they see one of their childfree friends, they realize what they gave up.

  • @surrealist2k
    @surrealist2k 11 років тому +3

    Get a puppy. Its less demanding and expensive.

  • @zorak1704
    @zorak1704 12 років тому +1

    My wife had the Essure implants and I had a vasectomy. Thats how much we do not want kids. Im 42 and she is 40. A bit too long in the tooth to have your first kid.

  • @Chrissers88
    @Chrissers88 12 років тому +1

    Yeah me too. Iv struggled with health issues (pain/discomfort) my whole life and depression from a early age. Too be honest if i had a child it would probably be life threatening as im small and frail. I have a skin condition and Disease/diet which would 100% be passed onto the child so that is another factor id have to think about. That is really odd as i have bladder problem too! I'm 24 by the way.

  • @Thahighlife
    @Thahighlife 4 роки тому

    I knew from earlier on that I didn't won't children I'm 41 and don't have any kids at all and you can rest assure that I won't change my mind my mind was made up about this a long time ago

  • @moyndebs6759
    @moyndebs6759 3 роки тому

    I’m a guy who never wants and I wonder why it’s only women that gets judged for this

  • @delvine13
    @delvine13 6 років тому

    U kno. I've heard this from ppl. Can't say I've ever thought much on it.

  • @lvsitiwdr
    @lvsitiwdr 13 років тому

    @moggoon you are so right. For me its just obvious that the world does not need more people. For the sake of what? Since i was a small girl i never wanted kids, i always thought that is so MUCh more interesting things to do with my money! I dont feel anything, there is no maternal feelings when i see kids. I love to travel, i travel as much as i can and its wonderful.and i am over 30s and never EVER want kids. A solid and NATURAL decision wich im very happy with!

  • @edus82
    @edus82 11 років тому

    I think it's a rather interesting topic that has intriqed me for some time now. I am actually conducting a study about non-parenting intentions among UK-living women. If you are interested in the study please see the website by google-ing nonparentingintentions, (Im not allowed to post web address here)
    As for commenting on the show, I think it's great that there is a discussion about this, although this was quite a few years back...

  • @vgman94
    @vgman94 13 років тому

    @moggoon Or put it towards a cause. I mean deforestation and endangered animals are a good cause to help with.

  • @surrealist2k
    @surrealist2k 11 років тому +1

    You need to go on google and search how many forums there are where women young and old don't want kids.

  • @MrGo4awalk
    @MrGo4awalk 12 років тому

    ive just watched that video you spoke of "teen abortion" and ill never forget what i saw.

  • @bugsandbrushes
    @bugsandbrushes 11 років тому

    Well, the comments from other women can be from enerving to just plain rude but my response always is the same: I've never wanted kids but I did force myself to think about it, analyse my motivation to come to a well thought out desicion. How many mothers can say, that their decision was well thought out?

  • @MrGo4awalk
    @MrGo4awalk 12 років тому

    Ive just looked at the video "teen abortion" omg, this should be shown in all schools to stop teenage/unwanted pregnancies

  • @miaa7097
    @miaa7097 7 років тому

    what country is this and how come Canadian TV chancels are not this fun lol

  • @shybettigurl
    @shybettigurl 13 років тому

    @moggoon So right!!!!

  • @surrealist2k
    @surrealist2k 11 років тому

    particularly with men.

  • @UBIQUEROL
    @UBIQUEROL 14 років тому

    You may have seen my wife but you're still inlove with me!

  • @BarriosGroupie
    @BarriosGroupie 6 років тому

    I can't see many men wanting to have children with the blackhead

  • @beaulieuonnp593
    @beaulieuonnp593 3 роки тому

    Why interview women are re not childfree. These women are not childfree, some had not taken precautions. Kids are one big STD.

  • @shwedagonpaya
    @shwedagonpaya 12 років тому

    Check out STOP MAKING BABIES on Facebook.

  • @xxxxxxpimptaddyone
    @xxxxxxpimptaddyone 11 років тому

    Fertile women in their 40's.......LMAO thats a funny joke

    • @anniealexander9616
      @anniealexander9616 5 років тому +2

      A friend of mine had a baby at 42. It was unplanned but they cherish the baby. My mom was 4 months away from being 40 when i was born.

  • @extrapressure
    @extrapressure 10 років тому +2

    Many women don't want children because they are bitter from past relationships and so they refuse get married or stay in the kind of long term relationships that produce the feelings of wanting to have a family.

  • @McHenryBruiserFamily
    @McHenryBruiserFamily 12 років тому

    a woman not wanting kids is fine
    the problem is the percentage of the women that REALLY dont want kids is so small its not even worth talking about
    its like talking about people that comb their hair with silver forks
    they are right, some women dont want kids for a certain period...but after they are in a steady relationship for some years, suddenly one day they turn to you
    "i want kids"
    "but you said"
    "nevermind that, i want kids"
    guess what you are gonna do after 5 years of being with her..obey

  • @vgman94
    @vgman94 13 років тому

    @moggoon Or put it towards a cause. I mean deforestation and endangered animals are a good cause to help with.