Yessss!!!! ❤❤❤ Your timing in perfect , I’m about to build a new scene for a new Stream mix !👍🏾😎🔥 It’s for a 1 Tech to Run FOH , Stage and the Stream , so the least amount of Drama the better .I will take all the advice and pointers that I can get . 😁
Thanks for the encouragement. This video is walking through building a live stream mix on a dedicated console. While it can be helpful and informative for you, I recommend watching this other video here which is better suited for your setup which is the same setup I run in my environment where we have one sound tech running all aspects of audio. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
It can be done. A lot of folks in some forums on Facebook want to start throwing DAWs at the stream right away without even trying to mix a stream audio mix on the main FoH board. Having to wrangle a DAW alongside a FoH board by one person is hard and a DAW without a nice dedicated listening room is hard too. You can get pretty far just with the stuff Dave is showing here.
Wow...this was such a huge help. I have been picking up bits and pieces over the past few months while struggling as a part time sound guy, and this really put it all together. One area where I am still a bit confused on is the Matrix. We use a bus to send the mix to OBS and I get how I can send my Stream Bus to a linked Matrix 1 and 2, but I need to figure out how to send the Matrix to OBS instead of the stream bus if I wanted to add that extra bit of polish. Thanks for this walk-through. I will be visiting it often over the next few weeks.
Check out this video here as it explains sending signal out of the console in the three most common methods. For you, instead of sourcing Out 11/12 with MixBUS 11/12, you will want to source from your selected Matrix pair. Then you will setup the User Outs as mentioned in the video. ua-cam.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/v-deo.html
@AllamHouse Heh I've joined "Team console at home" and just picked up a used X32 on eBay. May need it for a Christmas Service this year so probably worth the investment. Practicing at home to fine-tune the scene before Sunday using Thursday practice recording is my goal.
Yesssss. You’re gonna love the capability and learning you can gain. I’m a little jealous, I wish I had the ability to record a midweek rehearsal ahead of Sunday services.
@@AllamHouse Some of the big churches out there do something like a Wed. practice and recording (including video work) - then a Thur or Fri team sit-down and review of the recordings and mixing of the scenes for audio for broadcast and in-house with team input. That would be awesome. Though that includes staff on payroll, worship team professionals and all that. We're doing what we can with our volunteer teams and we somehow get by ok. I'm like you, a bit competitive and it all started back in my youth. You're a BMXer - as was I and I started up in Western NY with Richmond BMX's Gary Craig's father's bike shop track and a lot more after that. Makes me want to do better now 40 years later in everything I do. I figure the only way to improve is to have easy access to an X32 at home.
This is some great information. Do you know what electric kit they are using? We are using an Alesis Strike Pro and are using a some of the individual outs. Only the L/R main outs have effects from the module. How would you get the best mix from an alectric kit using main outs or individual outs. I have been toying with the idea of doing toms and cymbals in stereo. I can give more specifics if needed
I'm not sure which kit was used in the video, but typically it is best to get as many independent outputs as possible. Back in the early 2000's my church picked up the Roland TD-25 and it had 8 outs which was amazing for sound mixing/flexibility. I do prefer a stereo image when possible for the toms and overheads, but you would need 4 outs then...L - R - Kick - Snare. Another option is to run metals on one out and heads on another to give some more capability over just a stereo out of the entire kit. I also like to get dry signals to the board (if appropriate) and use the reverbs that I'm sending the rest of the instruments to fo a cohesive sound. In the end there is no right or wrong way to do it, but just test it different ways until you find something you like.
Thanks for the encouragement. I do not have these tracks available since they are not mine, but from a client. I do have other tracks you can use, but I need you to fill out the contact card on my website so we can communicate outside of UA-cam. sound.allamhouse.com
I haven't used SuperRack, but sis use Multirack many years ago so my knowledge might need some assistance from other viewers. My assumption is that the signal being sent to the machine (across USB) can be set to both Super Rack and a DAW on the same machine. Unfortunately, you do not have the ability to send USB audio to multiple devices. If you are on a Windows machine, I believe the ASIO driver can split (or multiply) signal to source both the DAW and Super Rack where a MAC might need more software loaded to accomplish the same thing. Let us know if you get it working well.
When I use the X32 USB out to my laptop - I am using Live Professor *and* using Reaper to record. The ASIO driver appears to allow two programs to continuously access the IOs. I haven't had a crash just yet but make sure your computer is powerful enough - 8 cores and 32GB may be good to use.
Something that I have always struggled with is how to set the headphones level for listening to the stream. I always feel like my level is too low or high compared to the stream.
That is a good point and it is (obviously) specific to the person and environment. If I'm in a somewhat isolated area, I like to have the headphones at a lower volume to minimize ear fatigue. If you listen to sample songs at a low volume you will find that the lead vocal and snare tend to be the most prominent so that is what I keep in mind when mixing. I also use the output meter to measure my actual output volume knowing that (for my stream) I want to be in the orange most of the time. I wish there was a specific level to tell you to turn the dial to for best performance, but it's a moving target.
As the guy who's going to be using this mix. Your work is VERY much appreciated! Thank you sir!
I'm glad this is helpful.
Yessss!!!! ❤❤❤ Your timing in perfect , I’m about to build a new scene for a new Stream mix !👍🏾😎🔥 It’s for a 1 Tech to Run FOH , Stage and the Stream , so the least amount of Drama the better .I will take all the advice and pointers that I can get . 😁
Thanks for the encouragement. This video is walking through building a live stream mix on a dedicated console. While it can be helpful and informative for you, I recommend watching this other video here which is better suited for your setup which is the same setup I run in my environment where we have one sound tech running all aspects of audio. ua-cam.com/video/pMnaiuC55RY/v-deo.html
It can be done. A lot of folks in some forums on Facebook want to start throwing DAWs at the stream right away without even trying to mix a stream audio mix on the main FoH board. Having to wrangle a DAW alongside a FoH board by one person is hard and a DAW without a nice dedicated listening room is hard too. You can get pretty far just with the stuff Dave is showing here.
Wow...this was such a huge help. I have been picking up bits and pieces over the past few months while struggling as a part time sound guy, and this really put it all together. One area where I am still a bit confused on is the Matrix. We use a bus to send the mix to OBS and I get how I can send my Stream Bus to a linked Matrix 1 and 2, but I need to figure out how to send the Matrix to OBS instead of the stream bus if I wanted to add that extra bit of polish.
Thanks for this walk-through. I will be visiting it often over the next few weeks.
Check out this video here as it explains sending signal out of the console in the three most common methods. For you, instead of sourcing Out 11/12 with MixBUS 11/12, you will want to source from your selected Matrix pair. Then you will setup the User Outs as mentioned in the video. ua-cam.com/video/xGt1z5I7blQ/v-deo.html
@AllamHouse Heh I've joined "Team console at home" and just picked up a used X32 on eBay. May need it for a Christmas Service this year so probably worth the investment. Practicing at home to fine-tune the scene before Sunday using Thursday practice recording is my goal.
Yesssss. You’re gonna love the capability and learning you can gain. I’m a little jealous, I wish I had the ability to record a midweek rehearsal ahead of Sunday services.
@@AllamHouse Some of the big churches out there do something like a Wed. practice and recording (including video work) - then a Thur or Fri team sit-down and review of the recordings and mixing of the scenes for audio for broadcast and in-house with team input. That would be awesome. Though that includes staff on payroll, worship team professionals and all that. We're doing what we can with our volunteer teams and we somehow get by ok. I'm like you, a bit competitive and it all started back in my youth. You're a BMXer - as was I and I started up in Western NY with Richmond BMX's Gary Craig's father's bike shop track and a lot more after that. Makes me want to do better now 40 years later in everything I do. I figure the only way to improve is to have easy access to an X32 at home.
This is some great information. Do you know what electric kit they are using? We are using an Alesis Strike Pro and are using a some of the individual outs. Only the L/R main outs have effects from the module. How would you get the best mix from an alectric kit using main outs or individual outs. I have been toying with the idea of doing toms and cymbals in stereo.
I can give more specifics if needed
I'm not sure which kit was used in the video, but typically it is best to get as many independent outputs as possible. Back in the early 2000's my church picked up the Roland TD-25 and it had 8 outs which was amazing for sound mixing/flexibility. I do prefer a stereo image when possible for the toms and overheads, but you would need 4 outs then...L - R - Kick - Snare. Another option is to run metals on one out and heads on another to give some more capability over just a stereo out of the entire kit. I also like to get dry signals to the board (if appropriate) and use the reverbs that I'm sending the rest of the instruments to fo a cohesive sound. In the end there is no right or wrong way to do it, but just test it different ways until you find something you like.
Awesome mix..can i get the multitrack so i get to practice as well
Thanks for the encouragement. I do not have these tracks available since they are not mine, but from a client. I do have other tracks you can use, but I need you to fill out the contact card on my website so we can communicate outside of UA-cam. sound.allamhouse.com
Hey 👋 Im using the x32 with super rack performer using the x live card if any way I can send the mix also to a daw for live streaming
I haven't used SuperRack, but sis use Multirack many years ago so my knowledge might need some assistance from other viewers. My assumption is that the signal being sent to the machine (across USB) can be set to both Super Rack and a DAW on the same machine. Unfortunately, you do not have the ability to send USB audio to multiple devices. If you are on a Windows machine, I believe the ASIO driver can split (or multiply) signal to source both the DAW and Super Rack where a MAC might need more software loaded to accomplish the same thing. Let us know if you get it working well.
Thanks for your input I will keep searching, don’t know maybe I will get a dante card to see is compatible
When I use the X32 USB out to my laptop - I am using Live Professor *and* using Reaper to record. The ASIO driver appears to allow two programs to continuously access the IOs. I haven't had a crash just yet but make sure your computer is powerful enough - 8 cores and 32GB may be good to use.
Something that I have always struggled with is how to set the headphones level for listening to the stream. I always feel like my level is too low or high compared to the stream.
That is a good point and it is (obviously) specific to the person and environment. If I'm in a somewhat isolated area, I like to have the headphones at a lower volume to minimize ear fatigue. If you listen to sample songs at a low volume you will find that the lead vocal and snare tend to be the most prominent so that is what I keep in mind when mixing. I also use the output meter to measure my actual output volume knowing that (for my stream) I want to be in the orange most of the time. I wish there was a specific level to tell you to turn the dial to for best performance, but it's a moving target.