Setting Up an Inexepensive Japanese Plane
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- A brief video showing how I tune up a Kanna - Japanese Plane, inexpensive model (~60$), great for beginners, 50mm blade. I'm not so advanced in Japanese planes, still learning the craft and for sure exists out there more finesse settings to be applied, so feel free to comment below.
Similar 50 mm Japanese Planes for sale on my store www.adrianpreda.com/shop
For documentation I've used the following books:
Japanese Woodworking Tools, Toshio Odate - amzn.to/3NVvg1N (Amazon)
Discovering Japanese Planes, Scott Wynn - amzn.to/4aQ6rhH (Amazon)
My sharpening setup:
Shapton Waterstones Set - amzn.to/2zZ285k (Amazon)
Shapton #1000 - amzn.to/420h1i7 (Amazon)
Shapton #5000 -amzn.to/3Hfu5qf (Amazon)
Atoma Diamond #400 - amzn.to/3tMCLl5 (Amazon)
Veritas Honing Guide Mk.II - bit.ly/2OOdEXb (Dictum)
Cheap Honing guide - amzn.to/3tMCZIX (Amazon), bit.ly/3bvlQ8D (Dictum)
Stone Holder - amzn.to/48yGHVM (Amazon), bit.ly/37hSwPG (Dictum)
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New video tuning a very very tiny japanese plane ua-cam.com/video/5_uJVs6JJjo/v-deo.html
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Watching this video reminded me that I also have an inexpensive Japanese plane which my brother gave me about 20 yrs ago when he came back from a duty tour in Japan. At the time I thought it was cute but not really useful, so it's sat on a shelf in my shop ever since. I just dug it out of the clutter, cleaned it up and set it up as shown -- and it cuts amazingly well! Thanks for a great and useful video!
Nice to hear that! Glad you found it useful! Thanks!
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Expected flying plane. Ended up watching whole video. Not disappointed.
I have a lot of experience with Stanley and Lie Nielsen planes, Japanese chisels and saws. I was always impressed with the Japanese tools.
After watching your video I ordered one from Amazon US $65 free shipping with Prime. Arrived in 3 days. I was so excited. Out of the box, I set the blade at its lightest and took beautiful wispy shavings. I can't imagine how much better it will cut after going through your adjustments.
Thank you!
Nice video ! You're doing it the right way, and the result is good !
Couple of tips I learned over the years(I'm from Japan).
-The body adjustment is the absolute key , more so than sharpening . You're doing a great job there!
-If you do the Ura-dashi, you could save time when flattening the back and make it easier to get it perfectly flat.
-Using all the way to the edges of the whetstone will help keeping the stone flat for much longer. Kuromakus stay flat longer than a lot of others, but it'll still make a big difference . The blade can go over the edges if your hands are steady .
-Maybe you know it already, but if you want to plane surfaces wider than the blade, it helps to slightly round off the edges of the blade(the corners) to prevent the blade from biting into the wood.
There're few guys showing there master sharpening skills on UA-cam, too . Search words like 巣板(Suita) works well.
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Me too.
Same story
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It's amazing how that thing can fly. The Japanese are ahead of tech
I'm not surprised you can fly for how HIGH you are right now
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@@nickkammer6832 wtf you talking about. That thing sucks. Use a western plane and yoyll realise how shit this is.
Thanks so much for this video. I got a kanna plane for Christmas and I look forward to finally setting it up and putting it to use.
Thank you also for watching! Hope you will find it useful and enjoy quickly your kanna :)
I'm surprised that you eyeballed everything. You even sharpened the blade without a jig, that's awesome! You have my respect, sir.
Thank you!!!!!!!!! Just got one in the mail today and now see I’ve got some work to do
Hey Adrian, I have two tips for other new to jp planes. Like you I am still a student with jp planes and I bought a similar plane from another store.
1. Whenever you buy a wooden body plane, let it rest for a week in the environment it will be stored. I keep mine in my house even though I work in my garage to keep the humidity more consistent. When I fist got it, I set it up right away and had to keep tuning the sole. If I would of just waited a week then most of the movement would of happen and I could if only tuned once and been done.
2. Always check and make sure the sole is square to where the plane iron sits. I got a little aggressive with sanding the sole that I unknowingly sanded out of square. This made my iron come out crooked, At first I thought this was because it was cheap and maybe the iron slot was out of square, which could of been the case but most likely my fault. Anyways, the point is, once you have the iron fit to the body, DON'T TOUCH IT! Always adjust the sole or sides to bring it back to square, it doesn't take much to ruin the fit of the iron.
I polish/sharpen mine to 12k(it was a present) and the mirror finish and cut is outstanding! Keep up the great vids!!
Thanks David, your comment is well welcomed!
It slipped me to mention in the clip about body rest :) Thanks. Indeed I let mine quite few weeks before tuning it.
Ha I goofed my kanna resorted to cutting the blade to thinking about buying a new kanna and restart from fresh
Do you have any advice on how to dislodge a blade from a plane? Mine was delivered wedged so completely I have not managed to get it out no matter which method and how much force I used.
@@AGH331 I imagine it might be because the conditions were more dry where it was shipped from than where you are. If you put it in your refrigerator for a few hours it might make the wood and metal both shrink enough to loosen the blade. I've never tried this but I imagine it's worth a shot.
@@michaelferrin7109 Thanks for your reply, but I tried this (and many other things already), without success. I had an exchange with an experienced Japanese carpenter about this issue (including pictures), and he said the one I got was just trash.
Thanks Adrian, your excellent video on Japanese Kanna had me convinced to switch over completely from using old English hand plane! I've just ordered 2 x Kanna from Osaka (1) 42mm and (2) 60mm, and they had just arrived Taipei a few days ago (2019 Jan, 31). I'll give myself at least 1 year of consistent usage and constant tuning on these affordable ones before moving on to the more expensive ones. I'll tune these Kannas on glass to ensure that the blade and body stay squared at all times. I've also ordered 12000 grit whetstones from Poland for better finishes. Your video inspires me, thank you! (Robust Chen, Taipei, Taiwan)
Thank you! Good luck with them and nice projects to make!
I too, got the 65 mm recently and need to tune that too. Also, I will still wait before spending more bucks on a kanna :)
I set up my inexpensive Japanese plane following your example! Mine cuts so sweet! Thank you Adrian.
Thank you Robert, glad you find the video useful!
Thanks for this.... I live in Japan and am currently doing all manner of wood butchery around my home.
Haven't reset my Kanna for years because I didn't know how.
Many thanks ;-)
Hi Jerry, glad it was helpful this video! Thanks for watching!
THANK YOU for posting this video - very informative about the important steps to setting one of these planes for use. I have been thinking of buying the exact same plane, but wasn't 100% about their setup (why I didn't want to buy a more expensive plane). As far as not having more sharpening stones, that would not probably ever stop a true Japanese craftsman from work. The music was great too by the way!!
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Excellent job Adrian! I hope you enjoy it
Thank you Mik! I believe will become a very used tool in the shop :)
A lot of good techniques for preparing my new, inexpensive Kanna plane. Flattening the chip breaker worked really well. Thanks
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Hi Adrian, bought the plane with the 65 mm blade at Dieter Schmid's store. Honing is done already. I let the plane sit in my workshop for a month. Thanks to your video I am now able to proceed to the next steps. Very clear instructions. Thank you very much for sharing.
That's cool! Glad you find it useful! Mine sit about 5 months :)) And kept the same twist all this time, although I had a lot of humidity changes, so probably would have worked even sooner. I too wanna buy the 65 one, I think the one from amazon us, in a couple of months. I've started with the 42, was not so fun, very lightweight, then this 50 is amazing, probably 65 is even more fun :)
I was able to finish my kanna today :-)) Cost me the whole day but it was worth it. Had to take a look at Toshio Odates book though because I wasn't aware how to prepare the sole (two points vs. three points). If you ever have difficulties on tuning a plane I recommend the three part series by Sumokan (ua-cam.com/video/QQytHrqMsug/v-deo.html). Still I'm glad that you posted your video because it briefly explains the whole process
Cool, congrats! I was too in doubt how many contact points. Being my only very used japanese plane I've opted for three, cause...I can easily change to two if I want :) From 2 to 3 you loose some material on the sole.
Nice work, thank you for sharing. I have been interested in trying one of these planes but didn’t have a clue about setting them up. I think I’m going to try it out.
Thank you for your excellent video on setting up a Japanese plane it is something on my wish list.
Awesome video!! I’ve been looking for proper instructions regarding the Japanese kanna plane.
Very well done.
Thanks! Glad you find it useful! Good luck making shavings now :)
just buy paper😔😔
Great video. Really makes the setup of one of these hand planes understandable
Excellent video Adrian, thanks. One tip I learned from an older and wiser craftsman a long time ago: Any time you sweep your hand along the sole of a plane, sweep from back to front. That way it doesn't matter where the blade is positioned and you establish a habit that helps prevent accidental injury if/when you sweep the sole while using the plane. (Not saying the way you did it was wrong or unsafe, just passing along a tip!)
Thank you Captain! :) Yes, I said to myself many times when editing the video that it looks like I am grabbing the blade with the fingers, even if it was retracted, but had no other scene filmed :) Indeed, not to be done like so anymore, cause will become a habit!
This was so much better than what I thought it was going to be. I was expecting a toy model plane. This was much more entertaining.
Simplest video I've found 👏. I didn't need a 50 min video to tune my $50 Kanna, some of us learn by making mistakes.
This video was the best all around guide tuneing up a Japanese hand plane before use.
Awesome video, thanks for sharing!
7:38 good fire starting material
Excellent Tutorial. Great end result
Great video! I bought a plane that looks almost identical apart from the wood type and I am already amazed at how good it is out of the box (it is my first plane to be fair) but I am even more excited to sett it up correctly . Love your content!
Never Seen something like this, it looks amazing
I have allowed green wood to sit in my shop to dry/acclimate. I used a scale that measures tenths of a gram. I would weigh everyday. It was fascinating to register the information. When the weight stabilized I used the wood for small box construction. The technique worked well. Weighing the plane body after purchase would be interesting as well .
Thanks for the video.
Very nice results! I'd be interested to see the shaving during the process to see which part of the tuning improves which problem.
This is really sound advice especially for people who think they are buying a plane at a couple of hundred pounds and thinking it will work straight out of the pack.
this is clear, concise and accurate
One of the better reviews-and no unnecessary faffing around!
New subscriber, right here!!
Excellent video, Adrien! I’m almost convinced to buy one for myself
Thank you Marco! Do enjoy it :)
Thanks, very thorough video. I just bought a relatively cheap one and will have to tune it.
Japanese Kanna are great tools, but as Adrian has demonstrated they require skill to fine tune. Superb tutorial. Thank you.
Thank you Sean!
Adrian, your videos are the best. Please keep them coming.
+Jason Robinson Thank you!😁
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Nice tune up, those shavings will get finer over time, if you wet the surface, let it dry, then use this kanna you will get a polished finish. Nice work.
Interesting, good to know, thank for the tip, I will try it!
I got the exact same plane in Japan last year and haven't taken it out of the package yet. Your video will help me set it up. Great stuff!
Do you know the maker name of the plane? Just for my culture :) On the shop where I bought it doesnt mention this. Glad my vid was helpful! Thanks for watching!
This Kakuri I see it everywhere on amazons. I've tried to identify the Japanese symbols on my plane labels, not sure If I managed to see if they are the same :)) Anyway mine is from here, first pic www.fine-tools.com/jhobm.html Indeed, it's very good plane, I can compare it to the Veritas western one :) Very easy to plane with one is sharpened. I cannot compare it to a more expensive one made by famous jp blacksmiths, cause I haven't put my hands one none till now :)
Adrian Preda Sorry for my late reply! Ah, yours in the picture is a different brand. The symbol in red and gold below "TRADE MARK" is 勝. It can be pronounced as "kachi."
The two symbols below that are 本銀 (hon gin). The characters on the blade are unclear. I recently got some polishing compound to use with a leather strop after my diamond stones. I hope to get super thin plane shavings like you did🍀😁
Great job. I bought a bench planer from harbor freight a couple of weeks ago and the table I was working on, long story short the table turned into a planer and the planer turned into a piece of wood
Very good instructional. Just the other week i thought of bying an identical model to start with :-) Now i am convinced that it s a good idea.
Thanks! Hope you will enjoy it, otherwise don't break my balls :)
Great Job I have restored and set up many metal and even vintage wooden planes but no Japanese I may have to try one some day.
Thanks Joe! Hope you will find it useful. It's a nice plane to have in addition to western ones. I've found it easier to use it in some situations than the western ones. But I don't find myself ever substituting to full japanese ones
You hve just convinced me to purchase. I have been thinking of buying for a while.
Excellent video, many thanks.
nice choice of music! and thanks for the instructions!
Love the plane! Keep up the excellent videos!
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoy my videos!
Very nice videos. Thanks for posting.
Love the pencil trick! That’s awesome!
Thanks Sonny! Yes is good, but normally you do that thing with Camelia Oil. I would have use it too, but is barely visible on the camera. Pencil works well too but becomes messy in the end :)
Do you need your receipt? ...Allrighty let me just plane this off for ya.
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So glad I checked the comments before I made my own receipt joke, well played from a year in the future
Good stuff as always!! Might have to get a cheap one to see how it works.thanks for sharing
Thanks Joe! This was my thought too, cause besides other japanese woodworking tools, like saws, chisels etc their planes are not so easy to start with. I paid mine around 65$, and probably is the cheapest I could find at 50mm blade. The good ones, made my known japanese masters starts from 200 :) and visually they look almost identical, probably the blade is finished more nicer than mine, but the extra is reflected in the quality of steel and body's wood selection. Even mine cuts very nice, the steel is very good, way over western planes in this price range.
Great Video on the "out of the box tuning" that should be done - thank you
I just bought a small Japanese plane using one of your links and it’s not working well. Now I know what to do to fix it! Thanks so much for another amazing video!
I love how the plane "sings"... excellent work and video.
Thank you!
Wow ...., you can make your own paper.. thanks for showing this great tool
great video! no i can order japanese plane without fear! loved the lovely shavings..them selves can be the final target lol!
What a great video! In Japan they have contests for the thinnest shaving...anything under 12 microns goes on to the finals...jajaja. Guess I have any excuse now to purchase one of those fancy hammers. Again, Thank you for taking the time to publish this video!!!
This is the secret right here, finding half assed made cheap tools and bringing them to a high quality level of tools with a few adjustments at home.
This is how you save serious money in this hobby
You should write a book about it, or at least publish an ebook. I'd honestly buy it just to save money in the long run. Complete noob right here, just getting into it.
Doesn't look half-assed to me.
Aktually its not that special more Like Japanese Tradition
There is no Japanese Master who would get his Plane setup by someone else ...
And the Quality of Cutting Tools is like 80% the Steel how good the Steel is If its forged well and the Heat treat and Tempering
No Matter how Sharp you can Grind your Blade if its dull after half a Cut you will never take a good Cut what you need is a good Quality Tool and a good Setup
You have taught me few valuable points. thank you
I was always taught to use the whole whetstone when sharpening a blade to make sure it stays level and even. using small parts of it makes it less planar
Very info9rmative and well made video. Thanks.
Thank you David! I'm pleased to hear that!
Great instructions, thanks.
Thanks I will follow your example when my first Japanese hand plane arrives in a few days.
Great intro setup video. I just received a used kanna similar to yours and have been at odds as to setting it up. Thanks for sharing.
You`ve got nice results with this kana. I had bed luck with mine because I took more wood from the bed of the blade than necessary. So , I had to bend more the ears of the chip breaker in order to compensate the error. It works okay now. I`ve read about a practice to curve the edge of the blade by lightly striking with a small pointed hammer right over the mild iron area .
Never tried for fear of not hitting the hard steel .Maybe I should try it. Nice work, Adrian1
Thanks! The best way to compensate that is too add shims of paper, normal one or cigarette paper if there is too small space, or even veneer on that bed. Glue them then fine tune it again by scraping it if necessary
Thank you for this video easy to understand. I appreciate it.
Glad it was helpful!
Good job Youngman!
Very useful information as I bough a little, cute Japanese plane some months ago :-)
Thank you for sharing.
Cheers buddy...great video
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Expected aircraft
Didn't get disappointed
Very nice , detailed tutorial. I never imagine how this stuff works. Question. How often is it necessary to repeat the process? Good job on video buddy.
Thanks man, glad you like it! It all depends on the wear and wood movement mostly, which can happen to twist overnight, or over a longer period. Although these plane makers happen to select carefully the wood for the body, with proper grain direction, sufficient rest etc to minimize the movement. For the blade's bed if the body expands to much you may need to add between, either a shim of paper, like cigarettes type, or veneer if is too loose.
I've been looking everywhere for one of these.
Thank you for the clearest demonstration yet of Kanna tuning!!
Beauty! Great job !
very nice and clear video! I do love japanese planes! Thanks
Thank you Franco! I'm glad to hear that! I've tried to make it as short as possible and enough info in understanding the process.
in my opinion it is perfect!
Great video!! and I've just bought Japanese plane 42mm and 50mm thanks..
Thank you for watching!
Nice curls!
Thanks! I could not stop planing that beam, in the end I've took almost half of it :D
This was in my recommended idek what a plane is used for.
Great information! Thanks
Glad was useful, thanks for watching!
Great video
I just got my first Japanese plane for my birthday, the small 42mm one, and this video really helped me in getting it setup. Thank you!
Oh, thanks and Happy Birthday! With the 42mm I've started also. I'm glad that helped you!
Good work! Like it
Super helpfu video, thanks a lot!
Thanks Mark, I am glad you find it useful!
first of all, awesome info
second and probably more importantly AWESOME background music that didnt totally suck :)
Grande Adrian!!!
Hello!
Thanks for the video.
Many plane build videos do not show setup like you did for the base of the plane. Very clear presentation.
Good video and nice organ music.
I wasn't expecting this.
Incredible! 👍
this is amazing tool! For training osten skills of woodwoking
I should buy one! I have 2 inexpensive small Chinese planes and a Chinese spoke shave that is a real problem child, once you get them tuned up they sure cut smooth! Thank you.
Very nice!
very good video
Very good and clear tutorial, tha nks.
Thank you too for watching!
got the same ! Did not know how to start with it thx!
Wow , that plane went up 200$ ....
Amazing to watch you do that so easy .
As much as I enjoy sharpening, I think I just found a new hobby. Thanks.
That's awesome!
great job!
Thank you!