Interested in your statement that IL is not worth using due to the total damage cap. Is that based on Captain Balrick’s work or you own or someone else’s testing? Enjoyed the video 👍
@@philfooshay My understanding is that it’s contribution is negligible due to the damage cap and in this build KITB is used to boost the dead eye time of SnS which is more useful than IL as damage taken will strip away your dead eye time leaving vulnerable to the next shot. KITB reduces this vulnerability.
@@philfooshay There is a soft cap on Fool Me Once, after you reach ~40% Damage reduction from all sources it goes down from 10% per shot to ~5%, So its a 5% Damage reduction boost, which in most cases will not give you an extra shot of health. Basically out of scope it would help, but in scope it doesn't, and most battles are won with scoped rifles now. I actually dont find that your third card matters to 99% of players, so you can afford some versatility, I chose to use Kick in the but as anti mauser protection, it also synergizes well when you survive a shotgun blast because you break even on deadeye drain from getting hit, and the shotgun blast fully activates Fool Me Once. TLDR- IL gives maybe 1 shot extra, but Fool Me once is often fully activated, and its kind of like winning streak, in that its such a good (defensive in this case) card, that the others you have matter very little, aside from giving you enough health to fully activate FMO. Sorry for the long reply, but I figured it was warranted.
Landons patience, peak condition and iron lung, no tonics, no deadeye. (i play on an rp server so i play without them out of rp to keep my skills up for when im in rp) rolling block or bow no second longarm (it looks dumb) either dual schofields for cool factor or schofield and sawn off for versatility after a bit of practice and having a machete on hotkey for a bad situaion and you become the reason griefers leave the lobby. a true cowboy
honestly iron long, winning streak, sns and fool me once is a the real tank build. i see the you point with kick in the butt, but if you use iron lung instead it makes you a tank and you can still be pretty mobile at the same time
@@elliotweinberg9503 Sharpshooter is 20% more damage, and 20% more damage absorption, It is arguably the best card in the game, because it gives the benefits of two deadeye cards to anyone using a scope. It feels weird to use a scope all the time, but once you get used to it, you never want to drop the rifle.
winning streak helps you out a lot more then sharpshooter because a lot of the time you will not be in the scope. Also the Carcano is a two-shot by itself
i have a card strat where i have 2 passives that keep a all times then my last one i can change as i need, so for pve id have a health regen card and for pvp id have sharpshooter and whatever card i need at any time
sns doesn't have as much of a advantage or health boost as you make it seem. Slip is much much worse and a real pain in the ass, slip users can straight up run up to somebody and take insane amount of bullets and still manage to tackle their opponent despite getting shot at. PVP consists of about 80% cronus users, lag switchers and freezers nowadays sadly so there's about no advantage to sns, sometimes even with lvl 2/3 tonics and minty meat they'll still one shot kill you. Also i wouldn't recommend double sawed offs for sns as its very close range and with sns slowing you down its not the best. Navy and a semi auto pistol with gunslingers choice is the best bet for sns imo.
You can't sprint with sns but a lot of players don't know that you can still dive... Also 1 volcanic and 1 navy is a deadly combo... They are both sharpshooter pistols and have insane damage and range
I'd have to disagree with sns u get angles and cover and use sawn offs when they rush you , navys and semis are really good fro agro tank builds which is sns sp gc and fmo
Totally right about Cronus n laggers and other cheaters it doesn’t matter what have on. I get one shot killed all the time. I am not a sniper or that good with carcano I am a in ur face pvper I like my pump action shotgun. The people that want to snip are the cheaters more than likely.
That was the good build back in the day I'd suggest smthn else instead of strange medicine if u like the healing got for cold blooded cus u get alot of more health back
i have to respectfully disagree with you weopon loadout. The sawed off shotguns have barely any range and it you miss a shot you are scrwed. I personally would take navy relovers. Also depending on where you are fighting the pump action shotgun is sometimes a better bet then the lancaster
Double navy revolvers, pump action shotgun, and lancaster/evans repeater?? I usually just do varmint rifle, Lancaster repeater, navy revolver, sawed off shotgun
@@elliotweinberg9503 lol they’re my main over the mausers. One headshot regardless of range unless people are running stupid builds with special tonics
in order of utility 1. Fire shells 2. Explosive slugs 3. Shells 4.Slugs As a general rule fire causes uncontrolled movement. Explosives are always consistent Regular shells are great DPS Slugs, both explosive and normal cause stagers within 12 steps guaranteed. - Personally I like to load my right hand shotgun with fire shells, and my left with normal shells. Best of luck.
I try layouts by the players that kill me, but I still get killed. I think 'controller' (even with mouse/keyboard PC) tuning plays a lot on behalf of cards, no?
@@ncrranger402 he's saying if u dont have a damage oriented build theres no point using it cus its only 8% also just take a miracle tonic for stamina lmao
Whats ur suggested card with this tank build if someone doesn't use scope on weapons or use bow instead ? What should be the replacement for sharpshooter?
@@condvit9348 what about winning strike or gunslinger choice ? If I have to choose along with sns ,fool me once , kick in the butt , What should be my 4rth ? I'm close range guy and often use improved bow
Evans better fire rate I prefer evans more ammo and sounds better than Lancaster I don’t see the difference in accuracy also kick in the butt doesn’t work with slow and steady anymore they nerfed it years ago I use slow and steady iron lung fool me once and never without one if u wear a legendary said you still get the damage reduction from never with out one I use evans and bolt action rifle it’s disgusting in pvp and pve
That's a solid strategy for a sniper-less Tank build, one of the things I really need to cover is the damage threshold of the game, after 40% damage reduction the game nerfs all additional damage reducing perks to 5%, including NWO, Iron Lung, and FMO, What that means for this particular tank build is that FMO is the only damage reduction card worth taking, as for most engagements we will be in scope for 20% resist, and in SnS for 20% meaning that we are at soft cap already. Actually I think I might make a video covering the differences. Either way thanks for the comment.
@@condvit9348 well my tank build if u think about it slow and steady gives 20 percent damage reduction iron lung gives 10 fool me once gives 30 never without one gives 10 as well total of 70 percent damage reduction
@@lynx_lx See that's the thing bro, after 40% the game will not give you more than a 5% boost from anything, Ill make a short video explaining this week.
It's probably one of the top 5 builds. You have to learn to play the build a Conservative turtle playstyle really you find angles and ways to duke ur opponent to get the better of them
Slow and Steady, Fool me once, Iron Lung, Of single purpose. If Taking the least damage while fist fighting is your objective. Cards are listed in order of importance, however if you wanted to swap off Of single purpose, you could pop on Winning streak to give you an edge.
Focus fire, peak condition, the short game and strange medicine for fist fighting, best if your character is very fat. Hold square and spam circle. You can't use fool me once in a fist fight as no bullets are involved.
swap it with a dynamite bow then, and swap Sharpshooter with Landon's patience, or winning streak, and do a card swap to PIB when you are at long range, it only takes 6 seconds to do a swap.
painted black is the worst card in the game for pvp lul i would flaw any user using that they will instently call me a cheater due to i know how it works
I mean it can counter slip and any card really and with like spin mechanics and like other lil tricks it is the best overall cards it's not veru fun but it is probably the best deadeye card cus of 100% accuracy and turning bows and throwabke into homing missles
So there's a technique called AQG, I've got a video on it, it allows you to shoot through slip with the Lancaster, makes it a better choice in my opinion, at lease when not on a PIB build. I'll make sure there's an updated video in the future. ua-cam.com/video/dfi9BQm4B5w/v-deo.html
Well not really a full sniper tank build if they're accurate always wins against a full focus build usually the full dmg build needs 1 more shot to kill the tank sniper but they die before
@@eldodderino8146 no it does not and it only affects in within 10 step range ( literally shotgun range) and it is clear that evans deal more damage in 60 range and more. The reason why captain baldrick’s arsenal puts the burst dps higher for Lancaster is due to them firing in a way where the bloom goes down in bursts. Realistically when an opponent is in sight, you can just spam shots and still hit them. The fire rate is definitely a win for evans as well as it’s ammo capacity, furthermore you can use a rapid fire glitch to increase the fire rate 10 fold and it is even spammable with pib. Only problem with evans is the range which loses to the Lancaster but if ur running a SNS build you will probably just snipe from a 60 - 100 step range and shoot from close up which is the evans job
@@X_DXFFY_X Thanks for the reply! So the Evans is a better choice between 10 and 60 steps? Is that key fact here? How would it compare to dual wielding Navys for mid range coverage? Do you know why the Arsenal? Genuine questions, always looking to learn 👍 Would love to know what non PIB builds you run!
@@eldodderino8146 yes the Evans is a good choice for the 10 to 60 step range however I would still choose the Lancaster over Evans in certain situations and certain builds. Pib build requires range over damage and firerate so the dps doesn't matter. I normally would use the Lancaster in a pib build as it is a good 45 to 65 step range and for further shots I use a sniper. However I will use the Evans in the 20 to 50 step range like showdowns, the firerate and damage sometimes comes in handy.
@@eldodderino8146 do you have discord? I would love to help you on there where you can ask me some questions and I'll answer them instead of dragging them in essays
Please tell me this isn't your main character 🤣🤣🤣 what is an e round or d bow? Can't anyone use full words anymore. It's dynamite arrows, not a dynamite bow🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't take anyone serious who has less money or gold than me. If you like PvP so much why do you play rdr instead of cod?
Interested in your statement that IL is not worth using due to the total damage cap. Is that based on Captain Balrick’s work or you own or someone else’s testing? Enjoyed the video 👍
Both, I never use anything from the arsenal without testing it myself.
@@condvit9348 Thank you for the reply. I will give this build a go 😁👍
Was that stated in this video? Why exactly is IL not worth using?
@@philfooshay My understanding is that it’s contribution is negligible due to the damage cap and in this build KITB is used to boost the dead eye time of SnS which is more useful than IL as damage taken will strip away your dead eye time leaving vulnerable to the next shot. KITB reduces this vulnerability.
@@philfooshay There is a soft cap on Fool Me Once, after you reach ~40% Damage reduction from all sources it goes down from 10% per shot to ~5%, So its a 5% Damage reduction boost, which in most cases will not give you an extra shot of health. Basically out of scope it would help, but in scope it doesn't, and most battles are won with scoped rifles now. I actually dont find that your third card matters to 99% of players, so you can afford some versatility, I chose to use Kick in the but as anti mauser protection, it also synergizes well when you survive a shotgun blast because you break even on deadeye drain from getting hit, and the shotgun blast fully activates Fool Me Once.
TLDR- IL gives maybe 1 shot extra, but Fool Me once is often fully activated, and its kind of like winning streak, in that its such a good (defensive in this case) card, that the others you have matter very little, aside from giving you enough health to fully activate FMO.
Sorry for the long reply, but I figured it was warranted.
Landons patience, peak condition and iron lung, no tonics, no deadeye.
(i play on an rp server so i play without them out of rp to keep my skills up for when im in rp)
rolling block or bow
no second longarm (it looks dumb)
either dual schofields for cool factor or schofield and sawn off for versatility
after a bit of practice and having a machete on hotkey for a bad situaion and you become the reason griefers leave the lobby.
a true cowboy
"the full tank pib build which is absolutely the strognest i'll go over that another day"
*never went over that on another day*
Damn you right, ill have to.
hurry up LMAO
@@condvit9348still waiting cmon
honestly iron long, winning streak, sns and fool me once is a the real tank build. i see the you point with kick in the butt, but if you use iron lung instead it makes you a tank and you can still be pretty mobile at the same time
why winning streak and not sharpshooter ? one does damage and defence when the other only does damage if you hit them more than once
@@jar444 sharpshooter is a good card too. It’s just not part of the main tank build.
@@elliotweinberg9503 but it gives protection where winning streak doesn’t so it would be a better fit for a tank build
@@jar444 I honestly use that sharpshooter instead of winning streak but you have a tank build with either of those cards
@@elliotweinberg9503 Sharpshooter is 20% more damage, and 20% more damage absorption, It is arguably the best card in the game, because it gives the benefits of two deadeye cards to anyone using a scope. It feels weird to use a scope all the time, but once you get used to it, you never want to drop the rifle.
Thank you very much, this build helped me take out racist people
Funniest comment so far :)
Lol
Vice video! Well explained and like the sound of your voice! It's clear and calm! xD keepup the good work
winning streak helps you out a lot more then sharpshooter because a lot of the time you will not be in the scope. Also the Carcano is a two-shot by itself
Unless players are using tonics, which most high level players are, winning streak is good as well though.
@@condvit9348 they are both good cards for a tank build
i have a card strat where i have 2 passives that keep a all times then my last one i can change as i need, so for pve id have a health regen card and for pvp id have sharpshooter and whatever card i need at any time
@@condvit9348 i agree
@@sovietnexter6389 that is not a bad tactic
Thx Buddy,i play it actually and loved it a lot !!!
He sounds like he knows what he’s talking about respect man
Nah, slow and steady, fool me once, kick in the butt, iron lung and youll be the metal head from the call to arms
I never knew how good builds could be lol
I love sns and slip. Great content. You have a new subscriber. 👍👍💯💯
No tonics your a easy kill bud sit down
excellent content/ advice Subscribed
Love this channel please make aim settings video
sns doesn't have as much of a advantage or health boost as you make it seem. Slip is much much worse and a real pain in the ass, slip users can straight up run up to somebody and take insane amount of bullets and still manage to tackle their opponent despite getting shot at. PVP consists of about 80% cronus users, lag switchers and freezers nowadays sadly so there's about no advantage to sns, sometimes even with lvl 2/3 tonics and minty meat they'll still one shot kill you.
Also i wouldn't recommend double sawed offs for sns as its very close range and with sns slowing you down its not the best. Navy and a semi auto pistol with gunslingers choice is the best bet for sns imo.
You can't sprint with sns but a lot of players don't know that you can still dive... Also 1 volcanic and 1 navy is a deadly combo... They are both sharpshooter pistols and have insane damage and range
Slip is Nothing the og bow with normal arrows can't solve 😂 slow and steady is much more annoying to fight in my opinion
I'd have to disagree with sns u get angles and cover and use sawn offs when they rush you , navys and semis are really good fro agro tank builds which is sns sp gc and fmo
Totally right about Cronus n laggers and other cheaters it doesn’t matter what have on. I get one shot killed all the time. I am not a sniper or that good with carcano I am a in ur face pvper I like my pump action shotgun. The people that want to snip are the cheaters more than likely.
Sns, strange medicine, iron lung and fool me once is what I run.
That was the good build back in the day I'd suggest smthn else instead of strange medicine if u like the healing got for cold blooded cus u get alot of more health back
serious dedication
Tell me why in the hell I'm running the exact same weapon set up without even ever seeing your video I guess I just knew ball
I use iron lung instead of kick in the kick in the but it f im close range i just st change the dead ey card to slippery and use boalas
STILL OP AF I CAN EAT 4 SHOT GUN SHELLS WHEN ROCKING THIS BUILD WIT LVL 3s N MINTY GAME MEAN
Does sharpshooter only count if you’re using the scope or could I use a repeater and still have its effects?
Only while in scope, it does stay up if you dive out of your scope for the duration of the dive though.
i have to respectfully disagree with you weopon loadout. The sawed off shotguns have barely any range and it you miss a shot you are scrwed. I personally would take navy relovers. Also depending on where you are fighting the pump action shotgun is sometimes a better bet then the lancaster
Double navy revolvers, pump action shotgun, and lancaster/evans repeater??
I usually just do varmint rifle, Lancaster repeater, navy revolver, sawed off shotgun
He’s loadouts more of a any range
Cap. One of the best to use. Slugs actually reach in deadeye pretty far out and you can shoot them extremely quick
@@user-ds5lm2yu5o they do have some range but the damage at range is very low
@@elliotweinberg9503 lol they’re my main over the mausers. One headshot regardless of range unless people are running stupid builds with special tonics
*sigh* time to get more money 😮💨
When I am sniping my cross hair is not that steady. My aim moves too fast. What r ur control settings set at?
Its a mix of my scope being a short scope, which has the least visual sway, and the fact that I run low sensitivity as a rule.
Conduit have you ever heard of your ESO long lost brother, Kevduit?
cant say i have
Great guy although i prefer his dsod builds for payday
Where is your first tank build video ?
What ammo is better to use with sawed-off shotguns?
in order of utility
1. Fire shells
2. Explosive slugs
3. Shells
4.Slugs
As a general rule fire causes uncontrolled movement.
Explosives are always consistent
Regular shells are great DPS
Slugs, both explosive and normal cause stagers within 12 steps guaranteed.
- Personally I like to load my right hand shotgun with fire shells, and my left with normal shells.
Best of luck.
Molded controllers are or were a big problem when this game was at its highest
U should try ss,comeback stronger,iron lung n fmo.
Comeback stronger isn't really good it's slow and u have to be out of a fight to heal, just gulp a tonic
I try layouts by the players that kill me, but I still get killed. I think 'controller' (even with mouse/keyboard PC) tuning plays a lot on behalf of cards, no?
maybe in small amounts, but mostly its positioning, timing, and coordination with your team.
Slow steady iron lung fool me once and peak condition
As going for headshots makes damage useless
If damage is useless, then peak condition is as well, We use sharpshooter for its 20% damage resistance while is scope.
@@condvit9348 peak condition useless.? More stamina is useless
While scope so shotguns and pistol are useless peak one of the best there
Ps a headshot is one shot kill. Yes damage is useless pvp cat knows what he's actually talking about lol
@@ncrranger402 u did not just say pvp cat..... also headshots aren't that reliable lmao especially cus everyone uses the hat defense card
@@ncrranger402 he's saying if u dont have a damage oriented build theres no point using it cus its only 8% also just take a miracle tonic for stamina lmao
instead of kick in the butt, why not use strange medicine to gain health back
That works well against bad players, but most good player will kill you faster than you can heal.
What is intro music?
Blinding Lights cover teddy swims
@@condvit9348 thank you 😊
What is the best build that you mentioned?
Probably PIB, IL, FMO and NWO
Paint It Black, Never Without One, Iron Lung, Fool Me Once (is the build)
Whats ur suggested card with this tank build if someone doesn't use scope on weapons or use bow instead ?
What should be the replacement for sharpshooter?
Iron Lung, Kick in the Butt, Fool me Once, should give you the best results, under almost no circumstances should you run Never without one.
@@condvit9348 what about winning strike or gunslinger choice ?
If I have to choose along with sns ,fool me once , kick in the butt ,
What should be my 4rth ?
I'm close range guy and often use improved bow
@@bilalkaka2163 Winning with sawed offs, gunslingers with handguns
@@condvit9348I will definitely give it a try
Evans better fire rate I prefer evans more ammo and sounds better than Lancaster I don’t see the difference in accuracy also kick in the butt doesn’t work with slow and steady anymore they nerfed it years ago I use slow and steady iron lung fool me once and never without one if u wear a legendary said you still get the damage reduction from never with out one I use evans and bolt action rifle it’s disgusting in pvp and pve
That's a solid strategy for a sniper-less Tank build, one of the things I really need to cover is the damage threshold of the game, after 40% damage reduction the game nerfs all additional damage reducing perks to 5%, including NWO, Iron Lung, and FMO, What that means for this particular tank build is that FMO is the only damage reduction card worth taking, as for most engagements we will be in scope for 20% resist, and in SnS for 20% meaning that we are at soft cap already. Actually I think I might make a video covering the differences. Either way thanks for the comment.
@@condvit9348 well my tank build if u think about it slow and steady gives 20 percent damage reduction iron lung gives 10 fool me once gives 30 never without one gives 10 as well total of 70 percent damage reduction
@@condvit9348 I only put on sharpshooter if I need to and I switch to carcano
@@lynx_lx See that's the thing bro, after 40% the game will not give you more than a 5% boost from anything, Ill make a short video explaining this week.
@@condvit9348 no because we tested it gives more damge reduction
It’s not the best build ever but it’s pretty good. I managed to drive a griefer out of valentine after he attacked me
It's probably one of the top 5 builds. You have to learn to play the build a Conservative turtle playstyle really you find angles and ways to duke ur opponent to get the better of them
It is not working so easy if you play on keyboard, try to kill with lancaster
I need a tank build for fist fighting can you make one?
Slow and Steady, Fool me once, Iron Lung, Of single purpose. If Taking the least damage while fist fighting is your objective. Cards are listed in order of importance, however if you wanted to swap off Of single purpose, you could pop on Winning streak to give you an edge.
Focus fire, peak condition, the short game and strange medicine for fist fighting, best if your character is very fat. Hold square and spam circle. You can't use fool me once in a fist fight as no bullets are involved.
@@rdodamiangrin it's all damage that ticks it
I’m not good with the carcano.
swap it with a dynamite bow then, and swap Sharpshooter with Landon's patience, or winning streak, and do a card swap to PIB when you are at long range, it only takes 6 seconds to do a swap.
I thought SnS and Fool me once did not stack.
They do, and its rather strong.
They absolutely go well together, one of the best pairs in game
Wtf is a debow?
a bow with dynamite arrows, it’s called a “dbow” for short
this build dont work no more;-;
What?.... how does it not work?
@@ItzKenzo420Bullets eat thru this shit easily even with This certain build. IT WORKED AMAZINGLY 3 MONTHZ AGO
@@shadowslayer9196 either getting shot at by a few people or people with winnings streak that stacks dmg every shot
@@ItzKenzo420sns players typically get shit on over on PlayStation. Anytime I'm fighting slip/ sns I change my play style so I can rape them.
painted black is the worst card in the game for pvp lul i would flaw any user using that they will instently call me a cheater due to i know how it works
I mean it can counter slip and any card really and with like spin mechanics and like other lil tricks it is the best overall cards it's not veru fun but it is probably the best deadeye card cus of 100% accuracy and turning bows and throwabke into homing missles
Cope you probably got 💩 on by a low level pib user 💀
yall so goofy
Bolt action beats Lancaster in free roam
So there's a technique called AQG, I've got a video on it, it allows you to shoot through slip with the Lancaster, makes it a better choice in my opinion, at lease when not on a PIB build. I'll make sure there's an updated video in the future.
ua-cam.com/video/dfi9BQm4B5w/v-deo.html
My sniper build will chew through this tank build and again nobody plays the same I’m just saying 😂
Well not really a full sniper tank build if they're accurate always wins against a full focus build usually the full dmg build needs 1 more shot to kill the tank sniper but they die before
Probably alotttnof people play like you considering we've had the same guns and cards for years u might wanna rethink that statement
Evans has higher dps than Lancaster, + anything is better than kick in the butt
Evans does 3 less DPS than the Lancaster.
@@eldodderino8146 no it does not and it only affects in within 10 step range ( literally shotgun range) and it is clear that evans deal more damage in 60 range and more. The reason why captain baldrick’s arsenal puts the burst dps higher for Lancaster is due to them firing in a way where the bloom goes down in bursts. Realistically when an opponent is in sight, you can just spam shots and still hit them. The fire rate is definitely a win for evans as well as it’s ammo capacity, furthermore you can use a rapid fire glitch to increase the fire rate 10 fold and it is even spammable with pib. Only problem with evans is the range which loses to the Lancaster but if ur running a SNS build you will probably just snipe from a 60 - 100 step range and shoot from close up which is the evans job
@@X_DXFFY_X Thanks for the reply! So the Evans is a better choice between 10 and 60 steps? Is that key fact here? How would it compare to dual wielding Navys for mid range coverage? Do you know why the Arsenal? Genuine questions, always looking to learn 👍 Would love to know what non PIB builds you run!
@@eldodderino8146 yes the Evans is a good choice for the 10 to 60 step range however I would still choose the Lancaster over Evans in certain situations and certain builds. Pib build requires range over damage and firerate so the dps doesn't matter. I normally would use the Lancaster in a pib build as it is a good 45 to 65 step range and for further shots I use a sniper. However I will use the Evans in the 20 to 50 step range like showdowns, the firerate and damage sometimes comes in handy.
@@eldodderino8146 do you have discord? I would love to help you on there where you can ask me some questions and I'll answer them instead of dragging them in essays
and this is why rdo pvp is garbage
Pure noob setup. 😂
What can I say bro, I'm bad.
@@condvit9348 I'm not saying your bad.
The only time you can complain about a tank build is if you can beat one. I’d like to see that.
@@vittori9292whats slow and steady? Never heard of it.
@@rofrdr 🤣
Please tell me this isn't your main character 🤣🤣🤣 what is an e round or d bow? Can't anyone use full words anymore. It's dynamite arrows, not a dynamite bow🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't take anyone serious who has less money or gold than me. If you like PvP so much why do you play rdr instead of cod?
Whoa your like cool bro
@@deathGod252 thanks😁 learn to spell and you can be cool too👍🏻
@@leslieanderson7641 whoa your good at spelling too
You have got to be autistic. Just shut up.
@@leslieanderson7641 where is the spelling error?
Anyone running SNS is a bot.
Why?
bots run pib all other choices are fine I'd say