Yeah but though it kinda sucks since the game takes over 100 gigabytes and 1/4 or 1/3 of the map is actually playable So it would be nice if it took less space since there is so much unecessary areas
@@eliterrr I suggest you reasess how you think games work Less detail = less memory Don't comment unless you know Those 100+ gigabytes are taken up by a lot more valuable shit that stuff out of the map - in fact the shit you'll see outside of a map is often designed to take up less memory They hide Guarma etc in the same map so they can teleport you there when need be instead or reloading a whole new map - and most of the shit back in new hanover etc will despawn when you're not there
@@rambo-cambo3581 i know but still all of that does take space and when it’s not loaded it takes less ram not space in your computer so all that is in that 100gb and I know that details take lot of space and ram but it’s okay since we can see the high quality and enjoy. Unlike the parts of the map that are unplayable
@@schnauzerindustrieshe didnt say he knows Charles would do it, he said IMAGINE if he did. Dont go out of your way to insult people when you’re the one who cant read.
do the same thing but with Dutch there as well. Wait until he says any dialogue with the phrase “I’ve got a plan” and then Guarma will magically transform into Tahiti. This unlocks the secret Good Ending
The crazy part is that the northern part of the island, way north than the playable area, actually has roads (very low poly ones though), makes me wonder just exactly how much of Guarma we were originally able to explore. I read somewhere that the actual island would've been explorable in its entirety (on very early stages of development), based on the full island map looks like they cut more than 80% of the place.
And you were supposed to be able to take a boat back to Guarma for $500 at any point after chapter 5. You can also find models for an unused shark outside the Guarma map.
that would have been so awesome. And if there were little settlements of Hercule's men and more random events too, they could have done so much w/ Guarma
I actually got pretty far on foot but died by the sniper only because I made the mistake of getting too close to the border, which I guess even outside the map triggered the action. But I’d say as long as your far enough away from the border you should be fine. Though it would take a long time to do. I found a horse last second then was shot😢
I just tried this on chapter 6. I have to say: it works, but what a trip. First of all arthur gets cold on the west elizabeth outskirts, but you still must wear hot weather clothes, as the rest of this is on hot weather and you can't change clothes. On the new austin part, the invisible sniper triggers, you gotta be a fair way out of the map's edge to avoid this. On south west new austin and south of it, terrain is pretty hostile and weird, with repeated textures and all, it's quite an experience. When I got into guarma's map, I fell from not-solid terrain to the beach like it happened to you on the video, but it was from higher and I died, then spawned in guarma's camp, but without my horse. I started exploring with the poor donkey and there was no invisible sniper, guards didn't attack either so all was good, until I went to the ruins north of where you save Javier, where they attacked & killed me quickly. That must've triggered the sniper because after that it was over. I got the 2 animals I hadn't studied and then I thought I was trapped in guarma, but saving and reloading the game spawns you in catfish jacksons, which is good bc I didn't wanna lose the progress I made, map explored and whatnot. Overall it was a pretty weird but cool experience, the way the game feels is so precisely crafted, and it shatters when you exit the boundaries, in an uncanny way. Def will do it again in my next playthrough, but in chapter 2, and explore more of guarma, like the beach where you find dutch and the others etc.
Honestly I had more fun exploring the out of bounds areas than some of the actual real game world that was finished and in bounds. Felt like a real Frontiersman going into uncharted territory, no NPCs, very few animals, weird terrain that was totally unpredictable. I spent lots of hours of my gaming time poking around and seeing weird and wonderful things.
Would have been hilarious if when Arthur finally makes it out there he finds Dutch, Javier, Bill and Micah all waiting for him, and Dutch asks Arthur what took you so long.
You can also use the slide glitch to cross the rio bravo lake, definitely it will conserve time and you can access Mexico right a way. The only downside is you do not will find any horse in the way.
That got patched. Unless that was only for online. I haven't tried doing it in story mode. It's kinda creepy traveling there alone but it's interesting how detailed it is considering you can't see any of it unless you glitch over there.
I have to say, exploring The Forbidden Plains (my nickname for the out of bounds regions) is one of the most fun things I've ever done in a video game. I did it a bunch of times as I didn't always avoid the sniper (got too close to Gaptooth Ridge) and the variation is stunning - no two journeys to Guarma were quite the same. Seeing the game as it falls apart, simplifies, puts mismatched textures next to each other without blending, goes super blurry on low res textures with one copy/paste tree design as you approach or leave Guarma is fascinating stuff; you see how they made the illusion work in the regular areas, understand the game engine better. The lake where it was wafer thin at one edge and fish landed outside of it and could be picked up (no you can't use your rod, the game isn't coded to allow it) was fascinating. There was a dev cube hanging in the air on the way to it, I shot it a few times, did nothing. Animals do spawn in certain spots but they have no pathfinding programmed so don't really move - use photo mode and stand next to a bear or an elk, makes for some fun shots. Or you can find "perfect" examples of certain animals and get easy kills, keep the pelts. Literally hours of entertainment there, on top of the many already in the game when played regularly. Horses don't always spawn after the cave, though, nor does the donkey always spawn on the island so you might have to reload, or just make Arthur run endlessly if you're super patient. Interestingly *sometimes* they do nearer Gaptooth Ridge, and regardless of where they spawn, every so often you get four horses with one Mustang, a trio of Mustangs. Basically Arthur isn't supposed to be able to ride and own one, but if you can break one near the cave it's easily possible to ride back into bounds and keep it as a mount.
Could not have said it better myself, the out of bounds is enormous and a great adventure, The north is chillingly dangerous too. I came inches form reaching Guarma via the north. I bet with enough tries a fit Arthur could make it... Arthur can get a mustang very early though. I rode my Sally for almost an entire playthrough. Best horse ever.
The aged pirate rum is my favorite. Sometimes Arthur will sing a pirate shanty after drinking it. Don't know if John sings too but I don't think he does.
Just attempted this and got there in just over an hour and a half! Thanks so much for the tutorial - been wanting to explore without that damn sniper for ages.
@ElizabethSEW I love exploring out of the map anyway so this was just a bonus 🤣 I’ve played online since it started and I guess it’s fun being able to explore a ‘new’ map freely haha x
@@3dgar006 Haha thank you! Ahh but it’s so fun when you get there 🤣 If you try again - I believe in you! Take plenty of dynamite so you can throw it on dodgy looking terrain to check the floor is actually there. Just watch out when you do get there and have to jump over the edge into the Guarma map, that’s the only part where I almost died and ruined everything, was higher than I thought 🥲
Just did this on PS5 but when the wrong way in the cave and met a man who told me to go away and find my own cave, so naturally I had to respect his wishes
One very important thing. If you trigger the pit trap it retriggers the sniper. I can still explore but I can't get in the town. So I'm currently stuck on Guarma with no way out.😝😝.But I did save the game before coming here.
I just started playing this game mid Jun 2024 for the first time. Needless to say im hooked. This game is so massive! I feel like im missing a bunch of stuff and i probably am. But you're a good man Arthur Morgan.
@bujfvjg7222 That should only increase our expectations for GTA 6, but at the same time... it's Rockstar we're talking about. So that should *decrease* our expectations. It's kinda confusing😂😂
Yes, me too. Just trying this now. Found a horse after a while but must have gotten too close and got sniped. Tried again after a while, my horse from the first attempt was there where I died but wouldn't come to me so I'm now jogging. Just rounded the Sea or Coronado and now making my way East.
@@Nylak-Otter He has a video on it, id watch it to know exactly the steps. But in short, you go to the top right edge on the guarma map, and start to swim over to saint denis, and drown yourself halfway, and then youll spawn in the normal world.
Imagine if they found a way to just keep the story going, directly into the full story of RDR1 without you knowing in a seamless transition? There is SO MUCH LAND out there could have been used!
I've done this so many times it's crazy. First time I went to G was with John to complete my compendium. Other times was just for fun. Once my horse did that jump thing that horses does and throw me right in between the cracks of the glaciers and I could not get out. Another time the horse just launched me off from a mountain and killed me. One time I went really really far from Annesburg to the point where I met the ending of the map and let me tell you it was really far but things were really werid in those parts. There was water in really werid levels basically placed in squares and what you see infront of you is a normal dry land but once you get close enough all the sudden you get shot upwards on the surface of water. I really don't know how to describe it. I decided to jump off the map to see what happens and that was a huge mistake because I got stuck in a never ending falling animation.
For those of you saying that we can’t go out of the map and complaining I’m pretty sure they probably decided to scrap it because it would make no sense to have John go to Mexico before the first game
@@ohritz3939Did you? None of the missions took him much farther south than Beecher's Hope, aligning with his statement in RDR that he didn't travel South
When you get near Aguas Dulces, make a manual save point. If the invisible sniper starts shooting for some reason, reload that save point to deactivate the invisible sniper. Talking from my personal experience.
@@-WarriorCatsGamerI know at the beginning of the video it says chapter 2,3, or 4 but does that mean the glitch just doesn’t work anymore in chapter 5?
@@pastorsleep nah, because they just added some land so that when you look far away it doesn't look weird & they probably have procedural generation for foliage/trees
I hope this is useful for everyone. I visited Guarma with Arthur in chapter 3, this worked perfectly for me and we are still in october 2024 (on PS4), I managed to get the turtle drawn in Arthurs diary, got all the animals in the compendium (The 3 snakes except for the fer de lance one that didnt spawn for me,but if it does, it should spawn on the cane field with the river on south (or on your right).and all the birds from the region). In my visit i got the sun hat from one of the two guards in between the little bridge in AguasDulces (these guards may wear a hat and will stand to a house during the day, if it doesnt spawn you need to re-enter AguasDulces and return to see if one of them wears one)but somehow lost it, could be after alerting the guards and this making the game think you are in chapter 5, idk, it could also be that the game does not save the hat while playing in chapter 3. *You can leave Guarma with a donkey(if your Horse despawns when you get killed, but will actually respawn back in Guarma when you return to America, Then you have to cross the line where you can fall by jumping but, if you fall with the animal it will die and you'll have to run until you reach the line on the top of the map and then run straight north. This takes you to the other side of the river in Saint Denis, so no you only have to find a boat and sail until hitting the border which will make you die, but dont worry, you will spawn in the city. If you run it will take you around 10 to 20 minutes to get to the river. Ill edit the comment to let you know if i got the sun hat in my second visit there and if triggering the snipers means you cannot enter AguasDulces again.
After your map changes to the map of guarma, you can also blow yourself up with a dynamite instead of riding all the way to Aguasdulces. You'll spawn near there immediately
Imagine if a new player who hasn't reached chapter 5 yet discovers a way to get outside the map and reaches guarma by mistake, he would think that he discovered a secret location that no one knows exists 😂
@@Player_7niper picked me off as well and i died but I tried again and stayed away from New Austin this time and the map changed and it still works. I'm gonna explore the island now.
Rockstar once intended Guarma to be a fully explorable place. You could take the boat in st denis to it and back for 100 bucks. It had its Own map and everything. Sad they scrapped it
They likely scraped some map off of guarma as well. It would've been cool if it was a fully explorable island, not just 1/10th of the island as walkable area.
@Why???? Could continue an existing character during the same time as John in RDR1 but Charles perspective or Sadies perspective. Obviously they'd never see John but they could read about him in a newspaper. Javier after he flees into Mexico. I would be interested in playing either of these characters and it would be even more awesome being able to do a three piece type of deal with some of them. Maybe even a three piece deal of Dutch, Bill, and Javier after what happens to Arthur. Showing how they decided to split and how they eventually turn into the people we see in RDR 1. Obviously the game would end with cutscenes of a next gen John Marston doing the dirty on them. It would show Dutch giving his line while thinking of Arthur as it then cuts to his face as he's falling and closing his eyes. Then in the epilogue you play as Dutch when he first meets Arthur, the epilogue missions are all of how Dutch meets every member and ends with him meeting Micah. Then you get to explore New Austin as Dutch and that's that.
@@robertsuppah8503 I'd rather play as Charles, could go a lot further with him after he goes to Canada etc. With Dutch, I already know the ending and know where he ends up. Plus I'd spend most of the game yeeting myself off a cliff.
@@robertsuppah8503 Could also continue the story of Jack after he avenges his father and maybe have some wild adventures for him Or they could have an entirely new story with brand new characters .
after nearly 5 yrs since release this game still have things to discover, just amazing. btw i like how you just started observing birds after respawn😂😂
In the unrendered part of Guarma, if you happen to fall into black space for seeming eternity, you can actually still make it to Aguadulces by moving in that direction. It’s super tedious and the equivalent of walking there. But after all that riding, I forged ahead, swimming and falling in space. It turns red as you near actual, playable Guarma. Go to your map, and then back into game, and you’ll be back on playable ground.
Made it and at first the sniper wasn't there but then suddenly he was and I couldn't explore. Not sure what happened but that sniper has killed me twice now. I did have a nice Nokota with me initially but it left with my first death. Thanks for the video!
Figured out what caused the snipers and after a reload was able to keep them from returning. Basically don’t kill the boars. You can kill the Big China safely but the boars will bring the sniper. Also don’t fall in the pit at the end of the stream.
Large mountains block the way to the bottom left in an easterly direction over the edge of the map. Crossing the river at a narrow, flat passage through which you can trot on horseback (the river ends not far from here) will help. Then continue eastwards on your way. A large rock wall also blocks the crossing here, but I found two points where you can get across. Extend the "V" and the "R" of San Luis River on the map with an imaginary line to the south. These are also the only two points to get to the right side of the map to see Flat Iron Lake and the Lannahechee River.
Pues amigos, debo decir que esto es totalmente real, yo justo lo acababa de probar y ya estoy en Guarma y con Arthur, sinceramente quedé sorprendido porque yo pensaba que no se podía, pero resultó que si, lo que sí es que es muy pero muy tardado, me tardé una hora y media en llegar pero si es posible. Me mató un francotirador cuando llegué a Guarma pero el juego me Spawneo ahí mismo en Guarma. Mis felicitaciones a este UA-camr que hizo este video. Yo pensé que era mentira, que no era real y que manipuló el juego para llegar ahí pero no es así, yo lo intenté desde el Red Dead Redemption para Ps4 pero lo jugué desde mi Ps5 y si se pudo. ¡¡¡Buen video hermano!!!
Pero la cuestión es, se puede explorar guarma sin el francotirador? O sigue estando el francotirador? Puedo explicar la playa o me matará el francotirador?
@AlfaGames7235 Pues fíjate que, en la parte roja del mapa de Guarma, ahí si ya no se puede explorar para nada, porque si ahí está el francotirador, pero si te mata vuelves a revivir en guarma, de donde estaba el campamento de la banda ahí se puede explorar pero si vas más allá estarán los guardias y si vas aún más lejos si estará el francotirador.
It's amazing how much unused land there is... they modeled trees and landscapes and all this stuff that will never be seen or known about by 99% of players... it's all just out there. I can only imagine the plans they had for this game but were forced to cut it down into a tiny chunk of what they wanted due to the demand from the industry (and unfortunately customers as well...) instead of being able to see the dream they planned out from the start. The video game industry needs to change to allow developers the time they need to build the game they want. People need to learn patience will pay off. Just hearing some of the stories of things they wanted to do makes me wish so badly we could have seen their original vision for RDR2. That's why I love devs like Team Cherry who actually take the time to make the game they want to make, even if it does suck waiting sometimes, it's worth it to get the best version of the game possible, instead of one that ends up being rushed in the end, left with all kinds of cut plot lines and clear signs that they had to hurry to meet some deadline. It's really kind of sad. And even tho they were rushed and had to cut out tons of content, we still ended up with an absolutely monstrous sized game with endless shit to do and see. Imagine what that could have been if people were just patient. It makes no sense to me.
Only up to Chapter 4? So i'm screwed trying this as John after the ending? Edit 1: the out of bounds trick still worked as John, currently underway to Guarma around the out of bounds area to find out. Edit 2: yes you can, made it was John at the end of the game. But there will be red areas on the towns with the big one being "Wanted dead or alive", as well as the invisible sniper.
@@DavidR-ue1lp I even tried saving there to see if i would have a Guarma save, nope. Teleported back to mainland upon loading the save. So if you want to explore Guarma again, you'll have to make the trip again.
I did this, got to guarma and was Wanted Dead or Alive. If you do this be sure to start a new story or do it before chapter 5. It no fun when WDA you get ghost sniped and are confined to one are of the map. Otherwise this is excellent content. thanks for sharing.
Fair warning for the bit around 7:40 , don't stray too far to the right, I slipped between the layers and have been falling in stasis for about 10 minutes, I do however have some momentum so I'm attempting to fall under the map all the way to Aguasdulces
This is incredible! One question: how do you get back out of Guarma? Amazing video.
How to leave Guarma 👇
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@@Player_7 Cheers. I love your content!
Just ride a donky north till you get to the river in front of annesburg then jump in lol
Yeah u could ride a donkey but when u already at outside of guarma map u can just save and reload the game and after that u spawn near catfish jackson
@@theflunatic not if you want to save the items and animals you find. You won't reach 100% if you don't look for the birds and other animals there.
Personally, I'm amazed at how much map there is outside of the map. It took you way longer to hit the featureless void than I thought it would.
Yeah but though it kinda sucks since the game takes over 100 gigabytes and 1/4 or 1/3 of the map is actually playable
So it would be nice if it took less space since there is so much unecessary areas
@@eliterrr the unplayable are of the map takes up a maximum of 5 gigabytes
@@eliterrr the unplayable areas don’t take ip much they’re all low presets
@@eliterrr I suggest you reasess how you think games work
Less detail = less memory
Don't comment unless you know
Those 100+ gigabytes are taken up by a lot more valuable shit that stuff out of the map - in fact the shit you'll see outside of a map is often designed to take up less memory
They hide Guarma etc in the same map so they can teleport you there when need be instead or reloading a whole new map - and most of the shit back in new hanover etc will despawn when you're not there
@@rambo-cambo3581 i know but still all of that does take space and when it’s not loaded it takes less ram not space in your computer so all that is in that 100gb and I know that details take lot of space and ram but it’s okay since we can see the high quality and enjoy. Unlike the parts of the map that are unplayable
“Enter this cave, now drink til you pass out”
Sounds like a pretty average day
Speak for yourself, i only do that once a week.
And then hangover ride to Caribbean on horsestimulants (booze for the horse)
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"Okay, but what am I supposed to do in the game?"
Imagine if charles just rode all the way out to Guarma to tell Arthur he's been away from camp for awhile
Actually he does that
@@mertenes6587he knows. Can you read again
@@schnauzerindustries i read it again.. i don't see it
@@mertenes6587 how would he know Charles would ride out to tell Arthur if he never knew Charles never rode to tell Arthur
@@schnauzerindustrieshe didnt say he knows Charles would do it, he said IMAGINE if he did. Dont go out of your way to insult people when you’re the one who cant read.
Man this game is so good it mirrors real life up to drinking so much you wake up in south america loll.
caribbean is still north america but still funny
@@valguero7256 I was Trying not to say Mexico loll.
@@007REAPER007 why? That’s what the dessert across the river from New Austin is, in the first game anyway
@@ddynamite didnt want to be called racist for what ever reason.
@@007REAPER007 doubt you would for saying the name of a country, but even so that person would be an idiot so I wouldn’t worry
What would’ve been hilarious is if Rockstar put just one hidden npc outside the map. Then watched the internet go wild with conspiracy theories.
There are some NPCs outside the map...
@@HorizonRover
Wait for real?
It’s Gavin
@@kirklandsignaturebarbarian3814
Of course it is 🤣
@@Patrick_Bateman____ Yes, horses, deers
Now we need the same guide about Tahiti
do the same thing but with Dutch there as well. Wait until he says any dialogue with the phrase “I’ve got a plan” and then Guarma will magically transform into Tahiti. This unlocks the secret Good Ending
@@WizzDude yea dude I tried it and it worked thanks man
@@WizzDude you forgot the step of secretly killing Micah behind Dutch’s back
Dont worry ive got a plan
@@DefinitelyAndCertainlyNotJerry no Dutch, trolley story won't work
At least R* giving up on Red Dead means these cool glitches for exploring out of bounds are unlikely to be patched
Since rockstar hates fun, they likely will make a patch and it'll be fixing only that glitch and nothing else
In online already patched
@@Michal-X online works different from story mode
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer the canyon bridge glitch has been a thing for like a year and still works
@@starbucksicedteawoman compared to guarma, the bridge glitch is a minor one
Especially since you either need a npc to make the bridge glitch fun
Arthur out hear breaking the laws of reality and travelling dimensions, but still fell for Dutch's 'plan'. Damn
Heave some good damn faith
Especially when there's a few cabins/houses that Arthur can use for his own home base. Like the Odriscall's place north of big valley.
this is how people got to islands before boats existed
yep that's correct just, I googled it
they just got drunk and went out of bounds just like the olden days
Lol
Yeah my dad gets really drunk and when he comes home he's always violent and in a bad mood. I think he is traumatized from all the fighting in Guarma
@@YouGotTheLbro pressed antagonize
They should’ve recorded some lines of Arthur trying to speak Spanish lol
“Vamos vamos” - Arthur Morgan
He knows human *beings*
@@ShiddyKong "Are you gonna strangle me next?"
@@TrueApexMusic just played that in my second playthrough today
bon jorno
The crazy part is that the northern part of the island, way north than the playable area, actually has roads (very low poly ones though), makes me wonder just exactly how much of Guarma we were originally able to explore.
I read somewhere that the actual island would've been explorable in its entirety (on very early stages of development), based on the full island map looks like they cut more than 80% of the place.
@Jimmy Neutron it’s long so I believe you
Honestly, I have a feeling Guarma’s appearance in RDR2 was Rockstar testing a second, smaller GTA 6 map
And you were supposed to be able to take a boat back to Guarma for $500 at any point after chapter 5. You can also find models for an unused shark outside the Guarma map.
They did, with mods, there is a fully fleged island there. (low poly) but it is an island.
that would have been so awesome. And if there were little settlements of Hercule's men and more random events too, they could have done so much w/ Guarma
The level of detail in areas you are never supposed to even see is incredible
Gavin is out there somewhere...
Has anyone seen Gavin?
@@docwho2828 GAVIIN!!?
I'm looking for an Englishman...
"OH I'm so worried..GAV?!"
Gaving im getting worried now
*Warning: Do not attempt to go on foot, you will get clipped by the invisible snipers near Blackwater*
Bro you well get there in two days if you go on foot ( in reel life )
I actually got pretty far on foot but died by the sniper only because I made the mistake of getting too close to the border, which I guess even outside the map triggered the action. But I’d say as long as your far enough away from the border you should be fine. Though it would take a long time to do. I found a horse last second then was shot😢
@@beans9771
I got shot by sniper too but i’m riding a horse so i just gone to the other side of new Austin
@@beans9771 same. Tried taming a wild horse twice. But by then he ran out of bounds to where the sniper could get me.
me too i literally was trying to get to the edge of new austin and got shot lol
Arthur: your all right boi 'feeds him hay'
proceeds to climb 3 mountains
4:05
😂😂
You can do anything on horsestimulants (Arthur not the horse)
I love how even if u leave the map there is soil and green and a bit to explore not just damn water or something dumb they really did good here
I love your editing. No unnecessary time wasting, good job
Unlike 80% of youtubers who try to stretch time out to get more ad revenue
I just tried this on chapter 6.
I have to say: it works, but what a trip. First of all arthur gets cold on the west elizabeth outskirts, but you still must wear hot weather clothes, as the rest of this is on hot weather and you can't change clothes. On the new austin part, the invisible sniper triggers, you gotta be a fair way out of the map's edge to avoid this. On south west new austin and south of it, terrain is pretty hostile and weird, with repeated textures and all, it's quite an experience. When I got into guarma's map, I fell from not-solid terrain to the beach like it happened to you on the video, but it was from higher and I died, then spawned in guarma's camp, but without my horse. I started exploring with the poor donkey and there was no invisible sniper, guards didn't attack either so all was good, until I went to the ruins north of where you save Javier, where they attacked & killed me quickly. That must've triggered the sniper because after that it was over. I got the 2 animals I hadn't studied and then I thought I was trapped in guarma, but saving and reloading the game spawns you in catfish jacksons, which is good bc I didn't wanna lose the progress I made, map explored and whatnot.
Overall it was a pretty weird but cool experience, the way the game feels is so precisely crafted, and it shatters when you exit the boundaries, in an uncanny way. Def will do it again in my next playthrough, but in chapter 2, and explore more of guarma, like the beach where you find dutch and the others etc.
Honestly I had more fun exploring the out of bounds areas than some of the actual real game world that was finished and in bounds. Felt like a real Frontiersman going into uncharted territory, no NPCs, very few animals, weird terrain that was totally unpredictable. I spent lots of hours of my gaming time poking around and seeing weird and wonderful things.
Its like you have Alloy comunicator😅
I always knew booze and horseback could take you to Guarma.
Would have been hilarious if when Arthur finally makes it out there he finds Dutch, Javier, Bill and Micah all waiting for him, and Dutch asks Arthur what took you so long.
it sounds like a paradise or a hell
You can also use the slide glitch to cross the rio bravo lake, definitely it will conserve time and you can access Mexico right a way. The only downside is you do not will find any horse in the way.
That got patched. Unless that was only for online. I haven't tried doing it in story mode. It's kinda creepy traveling there alone but it's interesting how detailed it is considering you can't see any of it unless you glitch over there.
@@continuousrage4974 in online you can go to a place that you can call your horse
You can use rdr2 own cheats to call one
You can also go across the river below rhodes and pass out on the slope. Then all you need to go south and you will reach guarma
You get across the river with the same glitch
I have to say, exploring The Forbidden Plains (my nickname for the out of bounds regions) is one of the most fun things I've ever done in a video game. I did it a bunch of times as I didn't always avoid the sniper (got too close to Gaptooth Ridge) and the variation is stunning - no two journeys to Guarma were quite the same. Seeing the game as it falls apart, simplifies, puts mismatched textures next to each other without blending, goes super blurry on low res textures with one copy/paste tree design as you approach or leave Guarma is fascinating stuff; you see how they made the illusion work in the regular areas, understand the game engine better. The lake where it was wafer thin at one edge and fish landed outside of it and could be picked up (no you can't use your rod, the game isn't coded to allow it) was fascinating. There was a dev cube hanging in the air on the way to it, I shot it a few times, did nothing. Animals do spawn in certain spots but they have no pathfinding programmed so don't really move - use photo mode and stand next to a bear or an elk, makes for some fun shots. Or you can find "perfect" examples of certain animals and get easy kills, keep the pelts. Literally hours of entertainment there, on top of the many already in the game when played regularly.
Horses don't always spawn after the cave, though, nor does the donkey always spawn on the island so you might have to reload, or just make Arthur run endlessly if you're super patient. Interestingly *sometimes* they do nearer Gaptooth Ridge, and regardless of where they spawn, every so often you get four horses with one Mustang, a trio of Mustangs. Basically Arthur isn't supposed to be able to ride and own one, but if you can break one near the cave it's easily possible to ride back into bounds and keep it as a mount.
You can find Mustangs in the open. It's literally required for horseman 10
So you cheat. Cool.
Could not have said it better myself, the out of bounds is enormous and a great adventure, The north is chillingly dangerous too. I came inches form reaching Guarma via the north. I bet with enough tries a fit Arthur could make it... Arthur can get a mustang very early though. I rode my Sally for almost an entire playthrough. Best horse ever.
The aged pirate rum is my favorite. Sometimes Arthur will sing a pirate shanty after drinking it. Don't know if John sings too but I don't think he does.
Just attempted this and got there in just over an hour and a half! Thanks so much for the tutorial - been wanting to explore without that damn sniper for ages.
@ElizabethSEW I love exploring out of the map anyway so this was just a bonus 🤣 I’ve played online since it started and I guess it’s fun being able to explore a ‘new’ map freely haha x
I gave up after a few minutes 😂. Props to you for having that much patience
@@3dgar006 Haha thank you! Ahh but it’s so fun when you get there 🤣 If you try again - I believe in you! Take plenty of dynamite so you can throw it on dodgy looking terrain to check the floor is actually there. Just watch out when you do get there and have to jump over the edge into the Guarma map, that’s the only part where I almost died and ruined everything, was higher than I thought 🥲
Just did this on PS5 but when the wrong way in the cave and met a man who told me to go away and find my own cave, so naturally I had to respect his wishes
@@salmonslammin1395 Omg you’re joking… how long did it take you to get there? ☹️
"I'm gonna have 1 drink"
Ends up on a island
"A quiet time" gone wrong
One very important thing. If you trigger the pit trap it retriggers the sniper. I can still explore but I can't get in the town. So I'm currently stuck on Guarma with no way out.😝😝.But I did save the game before coming here.
Pit trap?
@@WintersBrothersProductions there is a pit trap if you try to reach the mountain and a cutscene is triggered
@MsShadowrealm Did you find the shadow realm tho?
Another way out of guarma is to replay a mission and you will spawn outside of it
Does it only effect the town ?
I just started playing this game mid Jun 2024 for the first time. Needless to say im hooked. This game is so massive! I feel like im missing a bunch of stuff and i probably am. But you're a good man Arthur Morgan.
Aye can you pain down my douche bag's heart!? They on the same side with Liston Server Professor who is racist!!¡!!!
You know what else is massive?
@Hrdnkigfh your backyard?
Chapter 5 rolls around and Arthur's like "oh yeah I've been here"
This game looks beautiful even when out of bounds. Truly amazing work by Rockstar.
@bujfvjg7222 That should only increase our expectations for GTA 6, but at the same time... it's Rockstar we're talking about. So that should *decrease* our expectations. It's kinda confusing😂😂
@@Fiat_Multipla69What does sa remaster remind you of then?
@@nuffsaid7759 who said anything about SA remaster?
@@ChrisB0719 He wast talking about the expectations of GTA 6 and I was implying to keep it low because of how Rockstar treated GTA SA remaster.
You sir are are the reason developers take so long to finished projects. Explore away, I love it!!
The horses didn't spawn for me, so Arthur got to take a nice four-day jog
are u able to save the game there and spawn in gaurma
@@pastorsleep When you get to Guarma, yeah
@@ghetis396 dam
Yes, me too. Just trying this now. Found a horse after a while but must have gotten too close and got sniped.
Tried again after a while, my horse from the first attempt was there where I died but wouldn't come to me so I'm now jogging. Just rounded the Sea or Coronado and now making my way East.
Finally, a way to get the unique compendium animals after chapter 5
But how do you finish compendium without saving? Or its possible to leave guarma?
@@esk1m0t49 How do you get out, if I might ask? If I can't get out with compendium updates, there's no reason for me to go.
@@Nylak-Otter He has a video on it, id watch it to know exactly the steps. But in short, you go to the top right edge on the guarma map, and start to swim over to saint denis, and drown yourself halfway, and then youll spawn in the normal world.
@@Nylak-Otteryou don't need the animals on Guarma to complete the compendium. Idk why everyone says you do.
And also BEFORE chapter 3
Arthur decided he was going west with or without dutch
*Went south*
Your entire guide is like a road trip! It's like Arthur's path to his redemption.
Imagine if they found a way to just keep the story going, directly into the full story of RDR1 without you knowing in a seamless transition? There is SO MUCH LAND out there could have been used!
imagine if they did what IOI did with hitman combine the games into each other if you have both of them purchased
@@Samuel_Chilcottthe engine versions are far too different for them to do sumn like that.
@@playerdoestheinternet true
wow, amazed at the amount of time spent to do this - bravo and ty
The actual explorable area is frigging massive!!!
how do people even discover this stuff, did someone just say "wonder what happens if i go to that exact point in the cave and drink until i pass out"
I’m assuming its a common technique to get to restricted places outside the map because the game has to put you somewhere else
Same way people invented bluetooth
That is how my granparents got to school every single day.
I've done this so many times it's crazy.
First time I went to G was with John to complete my compendium.
Other times was just for fun. Once my horse did that jump thing that horses does and throw me right in between the cracks of the glaciers and I could not get out.
Another time the horse just launched me off from a mountain and killed me.
One time I went really really far from Annesburg to the point where I met the ending of the map and let me tell you it was really far but things were really werid in those parts. There was water in really werid levels basically placed in squares and what you see infront of you is a normal dry land but once you get close enough all the sudden you get shot upwards on the surface of water. I really don't know how to describe it. I decided to jump off the map to see what happens and that was a huge mistake because I got stuck in a never ending falling animation.
Same here bro
Did you manage to complete the compendium?
The horse “jump thing” is called bucking
How do you get back?
Damn bruh you know you don't need the animals on Guarma to complete the compendium.
Imagine discovering this not knowing what will happen in chapter 5
İt whould be crazy experience for arthur
For those of you saying that we can’t go out of the map and complaining I’m pretty sure they probably decided to scrap it because it would make no sense to have John go to Mexico before the first game
John wasnt in New Austin before the first game either iirc, yet the entirety of it is still accessible
@@BratMiloraddid u play the epilogue?
@@ohritz3939 Jon said in RDR1 that he never was in New Austin.
@@ohritz3939Did you? None of the missions took him much farther south than Beecher's Hope, aligning with his statement in RDR that he didn't travel South
When you get near Aguas Dulces, make a manual save point. If the invisible sniper starts shooting for some reason, reload that save point to deactivate the invisible sniper.
Talking from my personal experience.
Really wish they could released a DLC for alternate ending for Arthur and able to play those cut off GUARMA/Mexico/etc game
Say NO to DLC. Always. Stop being part of the problem.
To who it matters, this method is patched. They now snipe you around the bottom of new austin.
It didn't happen to me
@@-WarriorCatsGamerI know at the beginning of the video it says chapter 2,3, or 4 but does that mean the glitch just doesn’t work anymore in chapter 5?
@OTWdistrict idk I did it in ch2. Prob tho. Idk.
That horse hoped to never be tamed and went out the map, ended up making more road than most horses in map
This game is so detailed they even had considerable usable area outside the border markers. Most games just cut it off.
because its probably cut content
@@pastorsleep nah, because they just added some land so that when you look far away it doesn't look weird & they probably have procedural generation for foliage/trees
@@Vivi-xn9iz have u played rdr1? mexico was an entire erea u could explore it wouldve been in rdr2 if they had more time to work on it
I hope this is useful for everyone.
I visited Guarma with Arthur in chapter 3, this worked perfectly for me and we are still in october 2024 (on PS4), I managed to get the turtle drawn in Arthurs diary, got all the animals in the compendium (The 3 snakes except for the fer de lance one that didnt spawn for me,but if it does, it should spawn on the cane field with the river on south (or on your right).and all the birds from the region). In my visit i got the sun hat from one of the two guards in between the little bridge in AguasDulces (these guards may wear a hat and will stand to a house during the day, if it doesnt spawn you need to re-enter AguasDulces and return to see if one of them wears one)but somehow lost it, could be after alerting the guards and this making the game think you are in chapter 5, idk, it could also be that the game does not save the hat while playing in chapter 3.
*You can leave Guarma with a donkey(if your Horse despawns when you get killed, but will actually respawn back in Guarma when you return to America, Then you have to cross the line where you can fall by jumping but, if you fall with the animal it will die and you'll have to run until you reach the line on the top of the map and then run straight north. This takes you to the other side of the river in Saint Denis, so no you only have to find a boat and sail until hitting the border which will make you die, but dont worry, you will spawn in the city.
If you run it will take you around 10 to 20 minutes to get to the river.
Ill edit the comment to let you know if i got the sun hat in my second visit there and if triggering the snipers means you cannot enter AguasDulces again.
Thanks! ❤
Only works with Arthur, if you try with John Marston there is some sort of bounty on you. Yes I did everything correctly in the video as well
It wouldn't let me wake up out of bounds, kept making me wake up back at the entrance of the cave.
After your map changes to the map of guarma, you can also blow yourself up with a dynamite instead of riding all the way to Aguasdulces. You'll spawn near there immediately
Si te manda ahí, o te devuelve a strawberry?
Imagine if a new player who hasn't reached chapter 5 yet discovers a way to get outside the map and reaches guarma by mistake, he would think that he discovered a secret location that no one knows exists 😂
🤣🤣
To get return just setup a camp from your satchel that's all you will be in the original map for sure
Doesn’t work sadly. Camping is disabled in guarma
The New Austin menace caught me right at the end of New Austin
Edit: after 2 hours and 1 cocaine fueled horse, I made it safely to Guarma.
i’ll begin my attempt now. wish me luck
Nice Nickname For That Damn Sniper
Lol same took me 2 hours and a million horse tonics 😂
@@IAmTheDDK I call him J-sus McHrist
Dutch: "We've reached Guarma!"
Arthur: "This place looks oddly familiar"
I don’t know what I did wrong, but as soon as I passed by tall trees outside of the map, sniper picked me off.
You need to stay away from New Austin.
Dont ride to close, or you'll be smoothly dead
@@Player_7niper picked me off as well and i died but I tried again and stayed away from New Austin this time and the map changed and it still works. I'm gonna explore the island now.
@@Player_7can you get the tiger mustang early from this?
@@jamesnelson8469 thats in new austin
when i was on the way to guarma my horse fell off the slightest hill and died in new austin so i had to run the whole way 💀
Imagine drinking so much that you glitch out of the world
The fact that they’re still animal spawns and land to travel is awesome
So this is why the game is so goddamn big
This game is incredible. I play it for years now and I just recently started making my own content on the channel.
This games unseen textures are better than some games clearly visible textures that people are meant to see 😆
Rockstar once intended Guarma to be a fully explorable place. You could take the boat in st denis to it and back for 100 bucks.
It had its
Own map and everything. Sad they scrapped it
They likely scraped some map off of guarma as well. It would've been cool if it was a fully explorable island, not just 1/10th of the island as walkable area.
I'd pain the DLC ffs, pls Rockstar.
@Why???? Could continue an existing character during the same time as John in RDR1 but Charles perspective or Sadies perspective. Obviously they'd never see John but they could read about him in a newspaper. Javier after he flees into Mexico. I would be interested in playing either of these characters and it would be even more awesome being able to do a three piece type of deal with some of them. Maybe even a three piece deal of Dutch, Bill, and Javier after what happens to Arthur. Showing how they decided to split and how they eventually turn into the people we see in RDR 1. Obviously the game would end with cutscenes of a next gen John Marston doing the dirty on them. It would show Dutch giving his line while thinking of Arthur as it then cuts to his face as he's falling and closing his eyes.
Then in the epilogue you play as Dutch when he first meets Arthur, the epilogue missions are all of how Dutch meets every member and ends with him meeting Micah. Then you get to explore New Austin as Dutch and that's that.
@@robertsuppah8503 I'd rather play as Charles, could go a lot further with him after he goes to Canada etc. With Dutch, I already know the ending and know where he ends up. Plus I'd spend most of the game yeeting myself off a cliff.
@@robertsuppah8503 Could also continue the story of Jack after he avenges his father and maybe have some wild adventures for him
Or they could have an entirely new story with brand new characters .
This feels like watching WestWorld
"Just follow the line" lol
Damn. Gives a whole new definition to the "Wild West"
after nearly 5 yrs since release this game still have things to discover, just amazing.
btw i like how you just started observing birds after respawn😂😂
i have arrived at gaurma(i now realize this horse is the only 1 i like even tho its slower than hell)
Thanks, it worked. February 2024 PS4
In the unrendered part of Guarma, if you happen to fall into black space for seeming eternity, you can actually still make it to Aguadulces by moving in that direction. It’s super tedious and the equivalent of walking there. But after all that riding, I forged ahead, swimming and falling in space. It turns red as you near actual, playable Guarma. Go to your map, and then back into game, and you’ll be back on playable ground.
Great video and explanations there and u deserve a sub, mate
Wow that's awesome. My Arthur needs a vacation. 👍🤠
It proves how big the RDR2 map really is.
Bro it's 5x of gta V
Made it and at first the sniper wasn't there but then suddenly he was and I couldn't explore. Not sure what happened but that sniper has killed me twice now. I did have a nice Nokota with me initially but it left with my first death. Thanks for the video!
Figured out what caused the snipers and after a reload was able to keep them from returning. Basically don’t kill the boars. You can kill the Big China safely but the boars will bring the sniper. Also don’t fall in the pit at the end of the stream.
I tried so many times and now in Guarma thanks to you! 😊
Kudos for finding this method!
This method was found four yrs ago lol
@@zebfox011 I thought all the guarma glitches were patched not long after release?
@@keithhummel6660 nope
Perfect example for the phrase- "Small World"
Invisible sniper near cholla springs,i was going there to guarma and then i got shot,i think it doesnt work now
This still works. Sniper activates on some parts though. Around buildings so stay in forests.
Can’t you swim from Rhodes to Guarma?
Use a boat
@@fucktugal_.y._fucktalunya there’s a invis sniper
Is there still an invisible sniper for John?
No
Large mountains block the way to the bottom left in an easterly direction over the edge of the map.
Crossing the river at a narrow, flat passage through which you can trot on horseback (the river ends not far from here) will help.
Then continue eastwards on your way.
A large rock wall also blocks the crossing here, but I found two points where you can get across. Extend the "V" and the "R" of San Luis River on the map with an imaginary line to the south. These are also the only two points to get to the right side of the map to see Flat Iron Lake and the Lannahechee River.
I don't want to burden you but can you make a video on this if you ever try it again?
Great tutorial game crashed when i was 4 seconds away from it
Pues amigos, debo decir que esto es totalmente real, yo justo lo acababa de probar y ya estoy en Guarma y con Arthur, sinceramente quedé sorprendido porque yo pensaba que no se podía, pero resultó que si, lo que sí es que es muy pero muy tardado, me tardé una hora y media en llegar pero si es posible. Me mató un francotirador cuando llegué a Guarma pero el juego me Spawneo ahí mismo en Guarma. Mis felicitaciones a este UA-camr que hizo este video. Yo pensé que era mentira, que no era real y que manipuló el juego para llegar ahí pero no es así, yo lo intenté desde el Red Dead Redemption para Ps4 pero lo jugué desde mi Ps5 y si se pudo.
¡¡¡Buen video hermano!!!
Pero la cuestión es, se puede explorar guarma sin el francotirador? O sigue estando el francotirador? Puedo explicar la playa o me matará el francotirador?
@AlfaGames7235 Pues fíjate que, en la parte roja del mapa de Guarma, ahí si ya no se puede explorar para nada, porque si ahí está el francotirador, pero si te mata vuelves a revivir en guarma, de donde estaba el campamento de la banda ahí se puede explorar pero si vas más allá estarán los guardias y si vas aún más lejos si estará el francotirador.
I think it would be quicker to start a new game and just work through all the chapters till you end up in Guarma
there is some animals that are only in guarma that are hard to find so people like me can go back and study them
@@OddCharlotte they aren't needed to 100% the compendium tho
@@voltervajt9255 i know but some people just want it
@@voltervajt9255 they are valuable if you achievement hunt
Wow, if only your name was Jerry and not Jeff...
Its a fun scenic route, the fastest way in my mind is through Manteca fall then yah walk like 10 mins irt, then you're there as well
heads up about that sniper would've been nice, I must've not followed the route properly
It's amazing how much unused land there is... they modeled trees and landscapes and all this stuff that will never be seen or known about by 99% of players... it's all just out there.
I can only imagine the plans they had for this game but were forced to cut it down into a tiny chunk of what they wanted due to the demand from the industry (and unfortunately customers as well...) instead of being able to see the dream they planned out from the start.
The video game industry needs to change to allow developers the time they need to build the game they want. People need to learn patience will pay off. Just hearing some of the stories of things they wanted to do makes me wish so badly we could have seen their original vision for RDR2.
That's why I love devs like Team Cherry who actually take the time to make the game they want to make, even if it does suck waiting sometimes, it's worth it to get the best version of the game possible, instead of one that ends up being rushed in the end, left with all kinds of cut plot lines and clear signs that they had to hurry to meet some deadline. It's really kind of sad.
And even tho they were rushed and had to cut out tons of content, we still ended up with an absolutely monstrous sized game with endless shit to do and see. Imagine what that could have been if people were just patient. It makes no sense to me.
Only up to Chapter 4? So i'm screwed trying this as John after the ending?
Edit 1: the out of bounds trick still worked as John, currently underway to Guarma around the out of bounds area to find out.
Edit 2: yes you can, made it was John at the end of the game. But there will be red areas on the towns with the big one being "Wanted dead or alive", as well as the invisible sniper.
Damn wish I'd seen this before I tried as John, just wasted an hour as you are correct. Red circles, instantly hunted. Waste of time as John.
@@DavidR-ue1lp I even tried saving there to see if i would have a Guarma save, nope. Teleported back to mainland upon loading the save. So if you want to explore Guarma again, you'll have to make the trip again.
I like to believe that the invisible sniper is a man who has dedicated save life insurance that people don't go to certain places at certain times.
My dad sim 0:31
I did this, got to guarma and was Wanted Dead or Alive. If you do this be sure to start a new story or do it before chapter 5. It no fun when WDA you get ghost sniped and are confined to one are of the map. Otherwise this is excellent content. thanks for sharing.
I’d love some more single player content for this game man
Somewhere in 2:50 I always get a Wanted alert and get sniped without stepping into any red areas. Is there a way to avoid that? Thanks.
I was expecting the step after "find a horse" would be "let it kick you in the face and kill you"
Thx bro! I used this to study all the rare animals here in chapter 4🤠✌🏼
I got shot still going around Austin
In that vast emptiness of nothing, that is where Gavin is.
6:37
Arthur: "God damn, boah, what was IN that stuff I was drankin'?
Fair warning for the bit around 7:40 , don't stray too far to the right, I slipped between the layers and have been falling in stasis for about 10 minutes, I do however have some momentum so I'm attempting to fall under the map all the way to Aguasdulces
OMG after what felt like forever, I finally stopped my cycle of undermap falling 50 feet down and 2 feet forward, and POP im walking in Guarma!
whelp the sniper was there
Fun fact you get there quicker by playing through the main story missions:)
Must be new to gaming eh?
so... it takes about 20 minutes to do the entire tutorial.. then to get to chapter 5? brother is delusional
Only Arthur can drink until he passes out then ride a horse to a tropical island in the middle of the ocean.