I started out using regular Harley oil, then switched to full synthetic. I have used Screamin Eagle and now I’m going to try Mobil 1. I think all oils are generally good. Some subscribe to the idea that you should only run regular oil, others believe synthetic is the way to go. I think it’s personal preference. I change my oil, trans and crank oil frequently approximately every 3K miles.
Ok so after a long talk with a shop owner who was sponsored in the 80’s running nitro meth bikes with hand built engines. The Harley internals are no different from the 70’s when they ran straight 60-70 weight oil. I’m talking about bearings and rods and protecting metal. Nothing new about protecting metal. The thicker oil protects the bearings best and where is fails is low temp starts. I’d rather ride above 50 degrees and not potentially damage my engine than be able to start my bike in 30-40 degree weather. Another advantage is with roller rockers, thinner oils can lead to the rollers getting so slick they don’t spin and wear abnormally. The thicker oil provides the “grip” for the rollers to spin. Now this info comes from San engine builder that’s been building since the 60’s this knowledge is priceless and he will debate with new Harley techs all day undefeated. His recommendation for my built 08 Electra is Lucas Straight 60 in engine Belray in the primary Redline in the trans (Type F Auto trans works good also)
Good video Gary in my 04 ultra classic I run redline motor oil Belray primary oil Belray gear oil when I go into 1 gear my bike doesn’t clunk like so many that you hear.andAll US aircraft carriers use Belray Grease for their catapult systems so it must be good stuff
In a dry sump oil system the only oil in an engine is lubricating it the sump is seperate from the engine over filling sump does not lead to oil on crankshaft in a modern harley it takes away volume in oil tank that the engine breathes into leading to venting problems
22 114 street glide special, torque cam 447. from new she was using several ounces oil per 1000 miles mobil 1 sythetic. I changed over to belray mineral and now I dont have to think about it. I'm 9000 miles into it and running steady no over use or blow by. Change every 3000
You said from new. So the oil usage was probably from break in. All the compression rings and oil wiper rings have to seat a bit into the cylinder walls. Even the valves and valve seats will slightly change shape and seat into eachother better. That’s why your gas mileage and power actually increases as you put more miles on the engine from new. And would explain small oil usuage and some blow by. New engines you’re actually supposed to use a certain break in oil that is pretty thin for the first like 500/1000, It lets all the mating surfaces grind into each other the slightest little bit just to get everything correctly seated, and then you change all oils and filters and run the oil of your choice going forward. It’s the best way to break in a new engine and give yourself the highest chance it lasts for a longg long time with no power or compression loss
I ran my 2003 dyna lo rider with Harley synthetic oil in all 3 compartments engine, gear/ transfer case and transmission three in one as recommended by Harley Davidson, eliminate mistake in filling wrong fluid in engine or transmission, transfer case it’s a no brainer no problem I followed recommended levels, mileage intervals never had any issue no breakdowns to this day 2021 still running strong! They should call it Harley Davidson wonder lube 3 in 1
I learn something to from every video . Best channel out there hands down . Lord willing I have all intentions of letting you get a hold of my S&S 113 evo and do what you do to the heads and cam upgrade . Hopefully get some more cubic inch while you are at it . GOD BLESS TO YOU
Greg..I have an 08 train also. Just bought redline for all 3 holes.. did you like redline compared to what you used on purchase? I think my bike has oem harley oil when I bought it. Don't think I like harleys oil and I hear great things on Ted line...your thoughts???
Hello Gary, I’m new to your channel, very informative keep up the good work. I have a 2000 Fatboy 88ci. I ride very little, maybe a 1000 mil per year, we have snow for 6 months of the year. I use Amsoil in all three holes, I change the oil in all three holes very spring after the first run when it’s nice and hot, They say I’m wasting money by doing this. What are your thoughts on this ? Thanks Luis
Thank you so much for the kind words glad you're enjoying the videos. 1st I would say I'm not a big fan of amsoil Not that it's bad oil I just don't like running it in a Harley Davidson motorcycle. As far as recommendations with only putting a 1000 miles on your bike I would definitely change all 3 oils at the beginning of the season just to get the moisture or condensation out of your eng. That builds up during the Winter. Hope this helps thanks Gary
I used to sale amsoil but when ever put in a gasoline engine I would charge the oil then in the first 1000 miles would have to add a qt and also had pepple that bought it from me complain about that as well so got away from it also transmission going out and blam on amsoil so don't even think of using it anymore.
The old Shovel and early EVO the Engine oil also went to the Clutch the oil pump pushed the oil to the engine then to the primary to the filter and to the oil can back to the pump . Harley Oil was still dirt cheap $1.50 a QT The same 20/50 did the clutch as the engine . I still use 20/50 for my clutch , They sell high dollar oils for the Primary . No one remembers the 20/50 went to the clutch .
Sir great video, Question i have 1999 twin cam dyna and i ordered the wrong transmission oil and got Sport Transmission Fluid, by mistake Can i use in twin cam and evo transmissions, thks
So your using belray for all three . John Maxwell HD mechanic on YT uses Harley gear oil. Rest he uses syn 3. It may be for the newer touring bikes. Others swear by amsoil. Others formula plus from hd.
Gary I have a 08 softail custom has a 107 big bore kit with triple 5 cams I currently use conventional oil I have had friends tell me I should switch to full synthetic. What's your thoughts? Either way I'm going to be switching from HD oil to bel ray have done some research after seeing your video and nothing but good things.
I'm the lucky over of a '83 five speed shovel , the best engine oil you recommend would be Bel Ray V-Twin mineral , right ? which viscosity based on season temperature ?
BelRay makes a oil for the trans and primary There should be in a link in the description below. Its the best one to use because your transmission and primer all are 1 so it has the attitives for both.
Have you ever heard of tribodyn oil?...its made on the east coast. Either north or south Carolina, sorry I can't remember...but its supposed to be top shelf oil. Id like to hear you opinion of it
Petroleum base or mineral oil is basically the same thing sorry about the confusion I should have probably put mineral because I think that's what's on the bottle.
85-140 is great if you live up north it will take longer to flow, I rather have a thick coat on in the winter then i light coat . Come summer that thick coat is still doing a good job . The Great Debate what oil is best lol Oil is oil with out it you burn up . I have 5 grand into a Build I use regular 20/50 in my engine EVO 1340 95 hp 85-140 in the trans and 20/50 in my clutch . I buy cheap oils Valvoline t4 Castrol t4 Full Syn last longer , Con oil is fine just change it more often .
Hey there just came across this video studying oils. I have an 18’ lowrider with 10k mikes on it, and I have alway ran the Harley Davidson syn3. Is it safe to switch to the bel-ray oil? And if so should I run the synthetic kind? I’m always super skeptical of running synthetic oil and I was told that the syn3 is actually only semi synthetic
I’m actually about to do my 10k oil change and have all ready bought the syn3, but now I’m thinking of taking it back and getting bel-ray if it’s safe to switch
Hi so I didn’t find your inserts of oils what you run with the bell oils I’m currently running a 18 stglide special I’m running mobil1 motorcycle oil for touring and Harley’s new trans fluid. Thanks for any info 👍
Amsoil is a very good oil on the same token a tuxedo is a really nice suit if your kids are getting married changing the oil in a tuxedo or running amsoil in your Harley in my opinion is not a good idea I do not recommend running synthetic oil in an evo
Hi, I tried to look into the 15% synthetic in a "full synthetic" and I'm struggling to find it. I'm not trying to disagree with you at all (I'm sure you have forgotten more than I will ever know) just curious? Where did you find that info?
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I started out using regular Harley oil, then switched to full synthetic. I have used Screamin Eagle and now I’m going to try Mobil 1. I think all oils are generally good. Some subscribe to the idea that you should only run regular oil, others believe synthetic is the way to go. I think it’s personal preference. I change my oil, trans and crank oil frequently approximately every 3K miles.
SO GLAD I FOUND THIS CHANELL. GREAT ADVICE! GOD'S BLESSING TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
Thanks for taking the time to send this video
Bel Ray V-Twin 20W-50 mineral oil for me. It works in my operating temperature.
Bel-ray syn blend 20w50 is my 1st choice change it every 2000-2500 miles.
Ok so after a long talk with a shop owner who was sponsored in the 80’s running nitro meth bikes with hand built engines. The Harley internals are no different from the 70’s when they ran straight 60-70 weight oil. I’m talking about bearings and rods and protecting metal. Nothing new about protecting metal. The thicker oil protects the bearings best and where is fails is low temp starts. I’d rather ride above 50 degrees and not potentially damage my engine than be able to start my bike in 30-40 degree weather. Another advantage is with roller rockers, thinner oils can lead to the rollers getting so slick they don’t spin and wear abnormally. The thicker oil provides the “grip” for the rollers to spin.
Now this info comes from San engine builder that’s been building since the 60’s this knowledge is priceless and he will debate with new Harley techs all day undefeated. His recommendation for my built 08 Electra is
Lucas Straight 60 in engine
Belray in the primary
Redline in the trans
(Type F Auto trans works good also)
Good video Gary in my 04 ultra classic I run redline motor oil Belray primary oil Belray gear oil when I go into 1 gear my bike doesn’t clunk like so many that you hear.andAll US aircraft carriers use Belray Grease for their catapult systems so it must be good stuff
I only clicked to see the dog.
In a dry sump oil system the only oil in an engine is lubricating it the sump is seperate from the engine over filling sump does not lead to oil on crankshaft in a modern harley it takes away volume in oil tank that the engine breathes into leading to venting problems
22 114 street glide special, torque cam 447. from new she was using several ounces oil per 1000 miles mobil 1 sythetic. I changed over to belray mineral and now I dont have to think about it. I'm 9000 miles into it and running steady no over use or blow by. Change every 3000
You said from new. So the oil usage was probably from break in. All the compression rings and oil wiper rings have to seat a bit into the cylinder walls. Even the valves and valve seats will slightly change shape and seat into eachother better. That’s why your gas mileage and power actually increases as you put more miles on the engine from new. And would explain small oil usuage and some blow by. New engines you’re actually supposed to use a certain break in oil that is pretty thin for the first like 500/1000, It lets all the mating surfaces grind into each other the slightest little bit just to get everything correctly seated, and then you change all oils and filters and run the oil of your choice going forward. It’s the best way to break in a new engine and give yourself the highest chance it lasts for a longg long time with no power or compression loss
I ran my 2003 dyna lo rider with Harley synthetic oil in all 3 compartments engine, gear/ transfer case and transmission three in one as recommended by Harley Davidson, eliminate mistake in filling wrong fluid in engine or transmission, transfer case it’s a no brainer no problem I followed recommended levels, mileage intervals never had any issue no breakdowns to this day 2021 still running strong! They should call it Harley Davidson wonder lube 3 in 1
I learn something to from every video . Best channel out there hands down . Lord willing I have all intentions of letting you get a hold of my S&S 113 evo and do what you do to the heads and cam upgrade . Hopefully get some more cubic inch while you are at it . GOD BLESS TO YOU
U converted me 2 Bel-ray, thx br it works great.
I am with you about truly American manufactured products.
been running Red line in my 08 night train since i bought it, March 31st 2020 i subscribed after watching your video about chosing a cam
Thanks for subscribing I hope get back to making more soon. Red line is a very good oil. Thanks Gary
Greg..I have an 08 train also. Just bought redline for all 3 holes.. did you like redline compared to what you used on purchase? I think my bike has oem harley oil when I bought it. Don't think I like harleys oil and I hear great things on Ted line...your thoughts???
AMSOIL is manufactured totally in the USA!!!
Hello Gary, I’m new to your channel, very informative keep up the good work. I have a 2000 Fatboy 88ci. I ride very little, maybe a 1000 mil per year, we have snow for 6 months of the year. I use Amsoil in all three holes, I change the oil in all three holes very spring after the first run when it’s nice and hot, They say I’m wasting money by doing this. What are your thoughts on this ?
Thanks
Luis
Thank you so much for the kind words glad you're enjoying the videos. 1st I would say I'm not a big fan of amsoil Not that it's bad oil I just don't like running it in a Harley Davidson motorcycle. As far as recommendations with only putting a 1000 miles on your bike I would definitely change all 3 oils at the beginning of the season just to get the moisture or condensation out of your eng. That builds up during the Winter. Hope this helps thanks Gary
Amazon basic 20-50 SN Plus, works great. No issues on the 2012 street glide
I would do a pro bel ray vid if they gave me free shit to.
Thanks I was ready to call cause that"s the one thing i wanted to know :-) Great channel Maddogg over in the ZOO, MI.
You'll never go wrong with amsoil
I used to sale amsoil but when ever put in a gasoline engine I would charge the oil then in the first 1000 miles would have to add a qt and also had pepple that bought it from me complain about that as well so got away from it also transmission going out and blam on amsoil so don't even think of using it anymore.
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The old Shovel and early EVO the Engine oil also went to the Clutch the oil pump pushed the oil to the engine then to the primary to the filter and to the oil can back to the pump . Harley Oil was still dirt cheap $1.50 a QT The same 20/50 did the clutch as the engine . I still use 20/50 for my clutch , They sell high dollar oils for the Primary . No one remembers the 20/50 went to the clutch .
My Harley dealership actually recommended Belray that they sell to put in my bike !
Bel-ray conventional is awesome just like u said!
Sir great video, Question i have 1999 twin cam dyna and i ordered the wrong transmission oil and got Sport Transmission Fluid, by mistake Can i use in twin cam and evo transmissions, thks
I use Harley Davidson's Screaming Eagle SYN3 synthetic 20W50 oil 👌🏽
I buy bulk Bel-ray 20w50
Another awesome vid!!! 👌
Your opinion is noted.
Great video. What filters do you recommend? I am just picking up a 96 Road King.
Good info, I felt like I was back at MMI.
So Bel-Ray makes the most horsepower, eh? How much more? And what about wear characteristics? Cold flow? and things like that?
So your using belray for all three . John Maxwell HD mechanic on YT uses Harley gear oil. Rest he uses syn 3. It may be for the newer touring bikes. Others swear by amsoil. Others formula plus from hd.
Bel-ray has been around longer then amsoil. I like Bel-ray its my 1st choice or lucas or maxima
Great video. I never heard of Bel Ray oil. I will give it a try. Thanks.
You’ve never heard of Bel ray oil they’ve been around for centuries 🙄
I'm team bel-ray
Mineral oil 20w50. Is the greatest.
Its too slippery, itll sling the bearings out of the bottom end.
Whats ur opinion on valvoline vr1 20w50?
Thank you but what oil should I use in California I don't think any one big screen consideration the weather we ride in 110 days in Bakersfield
AMSOIL
Thank you .
makes more horsepower... that is a new one.
What about running 0w/50, 5w/50 or 10w/50 in a M8
I nvr run synthetic oil in my primary.
I just use mineral
Great info. Thanks
Well appreciated!
Gary I have a 08 softail custom has a 107 big bore kit with triple 5 cams I currently use conventional oil I have had friends tell me I should switch to full synthetic. What's your thoughts? Either way I'm going to be switching from HD oil to bel ray have done some research after seeing your video and nothing but good things.
is your 107 a fuel moto build? i want there engine kit i have an 08 nighttrain
I use 20w50 aviation oil, works great, with 8 oz of motorkote...
I'm the lucky over of a '83 five speed shovel , the best engine oil you recommend would be Bel Ray V-Twin mineral , right ? which viscosity based on season temperature ?
Can you use the primary case oil in a sporster or do you need to run the transmission oil...belray products?
BelRay makes a oil for the trans and primary There should be in a link in the description below. Its the best one to use because your transmission and primer all are 1 so it has the attitives for both.
Have you ever heard of tribodyn oil?...its made on the east coast. Either north or south Carolina, sorry I can't remember...but its supposed to be top shelf oil. Id like to hear you opinion of it
I haven't heard of it but I will look at it thanks Gary
@@Vtwinheaddoctor ....ok thanks....every good engine builder i ask never heard of this stuff .
I got mine from Tatro machine in California
sadly the long explanation did not answer my question which is :
what iol should i run on my HD elektra Glide year 1987 ?
I would run the bel-Ray petroleum base 20W50 In the eng. Bel-Ray V Twin trans oil and there V Twin primary oil if it was my bike. Thanks Gary
Petroleum base or mineral oil is basically the same thing sorry about the confusion I should have probably put mineral because I think that's what's on the bottle.
Do you know the difference in the V-Twin transmission oil and the gear saver hypoid gear oil 85w -140 liter ?
85-140 is great if you live up north it will take longer to flow, I rather have a thick coat on in the winter then i light coat . Come summer that thick coat is still doing a good job . The Great Debate what oil is best lol Oil is oil with out it you burn up . I have 5 grand into a Build I use regular 20/50 in my engine EVO 1340 95 hp 85-140 in the trans and 20/50 in my clutch . I buy cheap oils Valvoline t4 Castrol t4 Full Syn last longer , Con oil is fine just change it more often .
Hey there just came across this video studying oils. I have an 18’ lowrider with 10k mikes on it, and I have alway ran the Harley Davidson syn3. Is it safe to switch to the bel-ray oil? And if so should I run the synthetic kind? I’m always super skeptical of running synthetic oil and I was told that the syn3 is actually only semi synthetic
I’m actually about to do my 10k oil change and have all ready bought the syn3, but now I’m thinking of taking it back and getting bel-ray if it’s safe to switch
I switch them all the time I would definitely recommend using bel ray !Thanks for watching.
have 2011 sportster L1200L what oil did you say to run in primary ?
Where is your shop?
Hi so I didn’t find your inserts of oils what you run with the bell oils I’m currently running a 18 stglide special I’m running mobil1 motorcycle oil for touring and Harley’s new trans fluid. Thanks for any info 👍
It should have showed up in the links below the video I will check it make sure I get it on there if it's not thanks!
I dont care for amsoil, ive tried it.
Gary what do you think of amsoil? And what about synthetic in my EVO?
Amsoil is a very good oil on the same token a tuxedo is a really nice suit if your kids are getting married changing the oil in a tuxedo or running amsoil in your Harley in my opinion is not a good idea I do not recommend running synthetic oil in an evo
How to get a hold of you?
I don't use scamsoil
Hi, I tried to look into the 15% synthetic in a "full synthetic" and I'm struggling to find it. I'm not trying to disagree with you at all (I'm sure you have forgotten more than I will ever know) just curious? Where did you find that info?
Yeah I think he meant to say 15% minimum synthetic to call it synthetic blend.
You won't because it's a load of BS... as is the need to change Sportster primary oil every 3000 miles because trans are prone to fail.
What do you think of Royal Purple Max-Cycle 20W50?
Very good oil
Is it a 3000 or 5000 mile for oil changes?
I always recommend 3000 miles No matter what kind of oil running No matter what kind of oil you running
motul
More snake oil salesmen...
Oil has nothing to do with horsepower nothing.