Review: Thrustmaster T-GT
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- In depth review of the Thrustmaster TGT, the most powerful and best belt driven wheel Thrustmaster has to offer until now.
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#thrustmaster #tgt #t-gt #tgt2 #playstation #wheelbase #simracing
I decided to pick up the servo base of the T-GT 2 to decide for myself what it's worth is. I can now confidently say if you are invested in the TM ecosystem and want to upgrade from the likes of a T300 then the T-GT 2 is worth it 110%
Would you share how much you paid for it. Just curious 🤔 Am glad you enjoy it. Succes with the races!
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I live in Australia and picked it up for approx. $550 USD
👌👌 at 339,99€ that is a bargain!
Oh wait... its USD not AUD... 479,70 € 🙄
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I'm not fussed on the price. In terms of feedback, especially on rally titles such as Dr2.0 the T-GT 2 compared to the T300 you can truly push the car closer to the edge with the information being given to you and be much more precise.
Worth every cent for me, never had such an amazing experience, I have T150, T300rs, Logitec 920, g29 and g923... this is by far the best wheel on the market, specially for GT7. Although I did decide to upgrade the brake system. I've lowered my records for as much as 6 seconds right out the box (well with a little adjustment period of about 20min)
I’ve bought a t-gt 2 used like new, only opened for a demonstration, for 500 euros on eBay. And I really love it, it’s a beast. Surely the new fanatec dd pro it’s better, but the bundle with the booster kit and the third pedal (I think that you must have these both) is sold for 960 euros. Add the delivery cost from Germany and you are over 1K…it’s double than what I spent for the t-gt 2. It’s not exactly the same money between TM and fanatec, how people use to say on forums or comments. And if you want a second rim…or a shifter…the speech is always the same, every fanatec optional would cost you double or more than TM 😊
But would you have bought it for the full price? Its a super wheel. I have it too and very happy of it. But if I wouldnt have found it for a good price, I would have stayed with the T300. Thanks for the feedback, friend. Much appreciated.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I have to admit that the brand new price is high, in my opinion for 750 euros TM should include the tclm pedals. Anyway we can’t compare its price with the base DD pro price of 699 euros, because it does not include the booster kit and the third pedal. I’m sure that the fanatec (that is a direct drive) would offer you a better experience, but even considering the brand new price of the tgt2, you have to spend 250 euros more 😉 a great thank to you for the honest review and the immediate reply! 🙏
Imagine in the UK we have to pay a bunch of extra taxes on that. Your looking at like 1500 euros
@Daniel Maier correct
That is horrible my friend 😔
Great video, my CSL DD is shipping to me this week, can't wait. Maybe I'll make an unboxing video for my channel lol, to go along with the other 300 already on UA-cam 🤔 looking forward to your next video cheers mate
If you decide to do so, it will pop up on my yt overview. Thank you my friend and enjoy the races!
I got my TGT2 last night because of your good sharing, thanks for your very informative review for all those racing gears 🍻👍🏻 TT TTTT TTT TT🤣
Aaaahhhhhh!!! Enjoy the races my friend and thank you for the kind words 💙👍👍👍👍
@Neosphinx Considering that:
1. Fanatec does not ship to my country
2. Standalone servo bases from TM are not available except the TX
3. I game on PC
4. I am fresh to Simracing (aka I haven't even started yet, i'm a fresh face)
What do you think is my upgrade path/what equipment should I use?
Thank you for taking the time to answer this question :)
You can divide racing wheels in 4 categories. The mario-kart wheels, the entry-level wheels, the mid-level wheels and the high-end level wheels. I would avoid buying a mario-kart type wheel because it gives a wrong image on how fun it can be to use a wheel. You also need to realize that perhaps in a few months, you get bored of racing or just don't have the time for it anymore. This would mean that the more you invest in equipment, the more you stand to loose if you would sell it after x time. I would highly recommend to avoid the two top segments for the first 6 months you race to make sure you won't get bored of it. This leaves us with the entry-level wheels. These (mainstream) wheels consist of Logitech G29, 920,923 and TM T150 ,T248, T300, TMX and TX. Here the choice is upto you. All wheels are sufficiant enough to give you a "proper" race-experience. The T300 (TX) series is for me personally the top-base of that segment technology-wise with the dual belt and sufficiant power and ability to upgrade in the TM eco-system. The bases are also very easibly accessible on second hand markets. The T248 on the other hand is good if you just want to have a starter wheel and don't plan to do much upgrades. It is a nice wheel, good customizable settings, hassle-free and good as a family-wheel. Which to choose is upto you. Both choices will be enough to keep you entertained during the first few months of racing. And then, if you still are interested, you can sell your T300/T248 at a minimum of loss and proceed to the mid (TGT/ budget DD) and higher level (niche) wheels.
Hope you found the time to appreciate the extensive response. :)
Yay you change 'movie' to 'video' 😆 .... Love the video btw!
Yes thanks to you. I appreciate it. Thanks my friend!
I reckon the t300 torque is underrated. If I turn it right up on gt7 its too much feels like im driving a dump truck or an old tractor. Most cars even race cars dont have anywhere near that amount of push through the steering wheel unless they dont have power steering. IMO the T300 is the best just above entry level wheel and they are a score second hand because even the older two pedal t300 ferrari GTE that I have works with ps5 and GT7. You can modify most of the stuff thats wrong with them very easy like the pedal dead area and the brake feel very easily and cheapily.
Well I would recommend the T300 to anyone that starts with the hobby. It has, like you say, potential of being enough for what you want to do with it with a crazy good price second hand. Thanks for the feedback friend!
If I already have a T300rs with T-LCM loadcell pedals and the Ferrari rim, is it worth getting a T-GT II servo for 399 new? A fanatec DD would be 3x as much for a new rim and everything. Or should I wait for the TM DD?
Hard to answer. Personally, because I exclusively play GT and like you, had decent pedals and a rim, I think the extra is worth it, more then buying a complete new setup from Fanatec. I expect for TM to stall their DD until the end of the year... and at that time it will only be available for PC first and consoles to follow a couple of months after so still little less then a year to go. So yeah... if you want to do an upgrade, the TGT is for me the best option in your (and my) case. Is it worth 400€... upto you my friend.
How far do you have to tighten the screw when mounting the wheel as I don’t want to screw it in to far
I went all the way. It still worked
I needed a new wheel to replace G27 for PS5 (GT7 VR). Fanatec's beginner DD set was sold out without a restock date and a better bundle was pricey already. Logitech DD G Pro wheel would have been over 1200 euros too. So I choose T-GT II for 625e. It bummers to know there are better alternatives and that I need to add the cost of t-lcm pedals to get it up to some standard. But maybe it's not that bad and gives me some edge against G923 drivers ;)
Still remains a fantastic wheelbase and a decent rim but yes... the pedalbase that was included in the pack....🫤 Thrustmaster could have done much much better.
Ho acquistato la pedaliera ma ho il gas che va al posto della frizione e viceversa, c’è qualche settaggio da fare o è solo un errore di fabbrica?
Se si preme il pulsante 'Mode' per 3 secondi, la funzione dei pedali verrà invertita
Hi, great review. Is it worth to upgrade T-GT to T-GT 2 for an extra £70?
No. ua-cam.com/video/0Cn6_xaSmhM/v-deo.html
@@SimulatedDrivingResource thanks for the advice👍
Hi ! Do you think is it worth to upgrade from a T300 to a TG2 Base ? In France the base alone is 500 euros. And I only play GT7.
Thanks by advance :)
Salut Gael. Yes, in my opinion it is worth the upgrade if you only play GT7. It gives an added dimension. 500€ does seem alot. Is it not possible to buy it on a secondary market? Also dont forget black friday is coming if you want to buy it new.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource merci mon ami ! I am not so confident on secondary market, price are 350 euros. So not so cheap. Thanks a lot, I love your vidéos, very clear and realistic :)
I didn't tried the T-GT II but according by me, the last good wheel from TM was the TS-PC.
Not because it's just my wheel but because it allways been a stand alone product since it is sold, and it has the same motor of T-GT1 but without the Gran Turismo FFB feature which I don't mind because I am on PC, of course.
The TS-PC starting price was 500€ (base+rim) and the T-GT1 was 800€ (base+rim+pedals). So there was no point for me to buy an overpriced wheel with barely sufficent pedal set and a FFB feature meant for just one game (not an actuall Sim).
As I said before, I didn't tried the T-GT II so I can't give a proper opinion. Maybe with those all new features is very good, maybe is not, but since the competitors (Fanatec actually) can give you a DD with good pedal set at the same price, I think this T-GT II is for TM lovers or for console users that can't customize their echosystem with different brands.
There is absolutely no reason why one would buy a T-GT (2) when your sole racing-platform is PC. Like you say, the TS-PC has similar hardware apart from the GT-exclusive feature T-DFB. However, with the experience I have with the Fanatec DD packages, rim and pedals...the unavailibilty of DD, pricing and packages of the T-GT 2, I am not sure which is better to pick. Personal preference like I noted in the T-GT vs GT DD Pro video. Thanks for the feedback and support, friend!
When my T300 RS goes I’m gonna upgrade to the T GT II, good thing is that I can still use the quick release wheels on the T GT base, so it seems like a good investment for an upgrade if my T300RS foes
It is a good base friend. But just keep an eye on the market when it comes to prices. The direct drive systems are dropping every day in a matter of speech
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I heard Thrustmaster are going to make them in response to Fanatec so I’ll just have to wait n see I’ve only had my T300 RS for about 10 months
They already did with the T818. I only hope price drops on it. Your T300 is good material too. I am sure you will enjoy it for a lot longer.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource not only that but I’m not a fan of manufacturer branding Ferrari is cool and all but I like my wheels to have just the wheel branding, at the same time is the T818 quick release?
@@SimulatedDrivingResourceI also had the same complaint about the T300 RS wheel being too small thankfully there are wheel mods for the hubs, and I bought one for the standard T300 RS hub 13 inch advanced suede, my favorite thing about the T GT is the wheel and the fact that is has 18 buttons to map out, but the wheel itself is too small like your said for all those buttons, thankfully there are the wheel mods as well, but I’m curious as if the T GT wheel itself is compatible with the T818?
I wish you would have reviewed the actual differences between the 2 wheels. If all those acronyms on the tgt2 actually make a difference
Hello Robert, I do understand your point. Unfortunately at this time, I can't do such a thorough comparison due to lack of funds (I don't have enough money to buy 2 high end bases at the same time), lack of time (I have a family and a full-time job) and perhaps the most decissive factor of them all, I am not a pro-simracer, I just race for fun. Things like the T-DFB, I felt that change.. it is a real hardware change, but software changes are so minute most of the time that you have to be a pro to notice them. Maybe I will do a follow up on these if I ever have the luck of owning both these at the same time and have some spare time to just 'drive'. Thank you for your valuable feedback, I really do appreciate it and hope that despite the lack of the acronyms explanation, you still had something from the video.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource thank you for the great response. I understand totally. Once your channels grow, I'm sure fans will be willing to lend you their bases so that you can do more reviews
Would you recommend buying the tgt 2 base and putting a t300 rim on it?
Technically it is perfectly manageable however the original TGT rim is one of the best quality wise out there.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Will the T300 buttons still work? And if I use the same torque as a T300 base it should be ok for the rim right?
@@aspectic6227 buttons can be mapped and even if you use more, it will be OK. QR on both tgt and t300 are same.
would recommend chapters for this. was just looking for the GT2 review and had to keep skipping through.
I have been looking on how to do chapters but not sure it is enabled yet for my channel
Is it worth 620€ ??? Or buy fanatec for 700€? I m full new in racing, and i wanna buy wheel for only PS5: gt7 and F1, playing on The desk. What your opinion guys 😊
If the choice is between those two considering the parameters, I would go for the official GT7 wheel being the Fanatec but.... you are new to racing and either TGT or GT DD Pro is a hefty investment. You are not even sure if you will like it.... why not go for a second hand set first? Like a T248 or T300 base and after a couple of months, if you decide you really like it, upgrade?
@@SimulatedDrivingResource because 300rs gt in my country 392€ … paradocs is that second hand, not so cheap …
Wow... that is expensive second hand. And what about the T248? Its half the price normally. I just would feel bad in recommending a 'high-end' wheel to a beginner. 600-700€ is a large investment for some.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource 392€ is new from store, but second hand is 70/80 euro down only ..
@@bornborn1331 ok friend... as I stated before. T-GT (2) or Fanatec GT DD Pro => Fanatec... but keep in mind that those belong to the "high end" segment of the mainstream market.
I found used TGT2 for 615$.. is it worth it?
Depends on so many things. For me on my market, a used working tgt or tgt2 complete set with a price of < 70% of the retail price new is worth it.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource retail price is 799$ in ny country and it's sold out anyway.
Worth the note that I already have T-LCM but im hesitated between new 300rs or used TGT2
Try to haggle a bit. I had the same dilemma as you. I went for the upgrade because I played GT Sport and have not regretted it. But it also depends on your budget, resale value of the t-gt, price of the t300. I honestly can not make that call for you. I can provide you video's with what is good about them and what is not and what my actions were. But in the end, it is your hard earned money and decission if the pro's of the wheel warrant spending x more on it. Succes my friend.
It's all about patience... I would say in this period of time. PS5 is out of stock and scalped... Xbox is overpriced... GPUs are also overpriced... we will have to wait. If end of year prices stay the same, I will just buy it...
Exactly. It should get a bit better towards the end of the year with the extra production capacity... unless we have another drought in Taiwan 😔
Volante fuori prezzo che non vale i soldi spesi.Ora poi con il Csl DDpro standalone non ne parliamo neanche
GT DD pro non ha T-DFB ma sì, per i nuovi utenti senza legami con un ecosistema, sì, il GT DD Pro sembra meglio bang for buck
@@SimulatedDrivingResource guarda chi si fa un gtddpro ,in teoria anche chi acquista il Tgt II,è un utente hardcore.
Spendendo certe cifre non ci fai nulla di eclatante con il trasduttore del Thrust visto che puoi abbinare al motore del volante un bel Buttkicker Gamer 2 che è un trasduttore molto più grande.Funziona anche con ps4 e con TUTTI i giochi.Il problema del traduttore sul tgt è che sporca il ff visto che vibra dall'interno del servo...si perde nitidezza di ff! Molto meglio quindi un Buttkicher agganciato sotto il sedile per fornire quei feedback aggiuntivi senza però sporcare l'ff del volante.Tra l'altro ,se deco indicare un difetto nell'ff dei Thrust della fascia del tgt rispetto alla diretta concorrenza,Fanatec appunto , e proprio nell'ff meno dettagliato un po più "gommoso"!
Il trasduttore all'interno del tgt è,in realtà,un mini Buttkicker e quando su arriva a spendere certe cifre non è in gran problema spendere di più per qualcosa di meglio.
Non ci avevo pensato, ma sì, il trasduttore potrebbe avere un impatto negativo sul FFB. Buona osservazione. Non ho ancora esaminato il Buttkicker, ma come dici tu, non inquinerà il FFB. Il prezzo è pesante però: vedo Buttkicker Gamer 2 per 300 €? È anche qualcosa che non arriva facilmente al mercato secondario.
Hmmm... Sì OK, compatibile con tutti i giochi che è sicuramente meglio del T-DFB. Non ne sono sicuro.. fai un ottimo punto.
Ahah... quindi mi stai chiamando un utente hardcore? :D :D :D :D
I had not thought of that, but yes, the transducer might have a bad impact on the FFB. Good remark. I have not looked into the Buttkicker yet, but as you say, it will not pollute the FFB. The price is hefty though: I see Buttkicker Gamer 2 for 300€? It is also something that does not come to the secondary market easily.
Hmmm... yes OK, compatible with all games which is certainly better than the T-DFB. I'm just not sure.. you make an excellent point.
Haha... so you're calling me a hardcore user? :D :D :D :D
@@SimulatedDrivingResource ultimamente è aumentato in effetto.L'ho acquistato fa più di
a un anno a circa 200 euro .Il Buttkicker è intrinsecamente superiore al sistema di Thrust .Il trasduttore del gamer 2 è notevolmente più grande e ?attaccandolo direttamente alla postazione, ti accorgi subito dalle botte che ricevi ad ogni cambiata tanto per fare un esempio. Il sistema Thrust è cmq un buon compromesso e permette di risparmiare soldini visto che è integrato nella base.Rimane però un compromesso.
Capito. Ogni volta che si presenterà l'opportunità di testare un Buttkicker, lo farò.
why would anyone buy this junk when you can get direct drive cheaper? thrustmaster is absolutely doomed. good riddance .
If you are invested in the TM eco and purchase the base alone, it is cheaper AND it has a unique transducer. For the moment you have no base-only GT DD Pro and that is also in T-GT interest. But I can understand your remark. Thank you for the feedback.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I got rid of all my thrustmaster unreliable stuff and bought the dd pro. No more ffb fade .
@@enzoman444 I am glad it worked out well for you. Fanatec GT DD Pro is very good wheelbase.
Worth every cent for me, never had such an amazing experience, I have T150, T300rs, Logitec 920, g29 and g923... this is by far the best wheel on the market, specially for GT7. Although I did decide to upgrade the brake system. I've lowered my records for as much as 6 seconds right out the box (well with a little adjustment period of about 20min)