Twenty Years That BROKE The Republic - The Old Sith Wars Explained - Republic History #9
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2021
- "You thought that the corrupted remnants of the Republic, the machines spawned by Revan, were the Sith? You are wrong. The Sith is a belief. And its empire, the True Sith Empire, rules elsewhere." -Kreia
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We need a drinking game, take a shot every time the Republic “is on the brink of collapsing”
How about "too weak"?
Or a shot for every time the word general, echo, or mandalorian is used in the Kotor Era
Another shot for everytime the Mandalorians fight amongst themselves.
And does nothing
Or every time the Sith are dead but not really though.
Nihilus was literally *the tsar bomba* to Republic
YIKES
YIKES 😬
Nihilus: Kaboom? Kreia: yes Nihilus, kaboom.
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Tsar bomba would be putting it nicely.. that motherfucker was more like the so called wormwood asteroid
Revan would’ve won if Malak didn’t betray him. But he still won in the end just another way
Yes atleast Darth Revans
He also help that Twi'lek girl won the dancing audition, there are many Jedi who are strong in the force, but not everyone of them has the move like Revan did
Just like thrawn
Although idk about winning
Revan, the man who (virtually single-handedly) led The Republic against The Mandalorians at their prime, and won. Then, he turned on The Republic he once served, and (nearly) won that. Without his tactical genius, I don't think he would've come close to doing all that he did.
I wonder how Thrawn would fare against him, especially since Revan has The Force on his side?
Revan vs Thrawn. An ambitious idea indeed
@@AndreNitroX I think revan has an advantage. Thrawn and Revan are equal in terms of millitary and strategic genius, but Revan ALSO understands the force - Possibly better than any other force user in the galaxy having been both a sith lord and the prodigal knight.
To quote Kreia: Your millitary 'tactics' are nothing compared to the force
and Revan understood it like no other.
Were it just an all out millitary battle, it would be hard to call, both would get the measure of each other and be able to beat the other at their own game, but Revan was more than just a millitary commander. he was a Jedi. He was a Sith. He was a Force prodigy.
And the only weakness thrawn ever had was his inability to understand or predict the force.
@@Whoami691 well said
Lord Revan should've just ran for Chancellor after the Mandalorian Wars. Renounce his Jedi commission, become a secular military officer, and run on the premise that he saved the Republic and that he knows how to keep it safe for years to come. Even loyal Republic soldiers like Carth Onasi would've voted for him in a heartbeat. He can still use the Dark Side and the Star Forge, and maybe even establish an alternate to the Jedi Order that uses both sides of the Force as the Republic's new defenders. But with his war credentials and the people's backing, he could have gained everything he wanted. Including forcing the Jedi to do his will and helping him prepare the galaxy for the war with the True Sith.
@@HolyknightVader999 ooh that's a good idea
A popular and influential exjedi/exsith/military leader who can run for office and militarize the republic
And somehow they got to demilitarize and led to the increase in power of militias which led to giant Droid armies.
After a thousand years of secretive Sith meddling, mind you. Which is a very long time to sow chaos. You wonder where the unrest, militiats, pirates, and other criminal gangs came from really, and you can start to see that were it not for the two hiding Sith the Republic's demilitarization and judiciary fleet -Jedi based system aided by sanctions was pretty effective at keeping peace. Issues really began to mount up due to the Sith playing games, and keeping themselves hidden, plus the all too common issue the Republic faced in the form of corruption after long periods of peace and prosperity becoming so widespread it was just a husk of it's intended form. Also, the Outer-Rim being abused by mega corporations and neglected by the Republic, but stupid as it is that nobody saw that coming one needs to remember that the Outer-Rim is always getting the short end of the stick, which is obviously just ridiculous, but it's easy to see why the Sith could foster crime lords, pirate gangs, and other never-do-wells in that kinda environment. Basically demilitarization did work pretty well for an awfully long time, but corruption, indolence, and the Sith worked in silence to turn it into a hindrance.
Seems despite that the republic throughout most of its history was at war it still multiple times made the almost fatal mistake of demilitarising itself allowing other factions to almost destroy or completely destroy it
@@gs-8279 True, but by the time of the Rusan reformations, there was really no other known faction around, besides perhaps the Hutts, that woulda posed a massive threat requiring a military to be kept on standby. In general, I would say demilitarization was a good move (one thousand years of peace and prosperity kinda says a lot), but they really ought of not neglected the outer rim. Demilitarization works only if everyone gains from that being the state of affairs, and there is no real reason to start major military campaigns (such as independent systems wanting to rip themselves free, to form a Confederacy). Granted the Republic ought of considered potential external threats such as the Vong (had they arrived before the CIS was even on the drawing board they would have made quick work of the Galaxy far, far away), in which case having a competent defense force to deploy in case something like that came about would have been a very intelligent idea.
@@videocrowsnest5251 Reminder about the Vong; the reason the galaxy got so fucked was because Borsk Fey'lya let them in and allowed them to take a planet. I don't know the TPM and prior Republic's moral/ethical fortitude, but if their strategists notice how the Vong tech needs a planet to generate it, they might actually be capable of repelling them, even with a smaller military.
Obi-Wan and Anakin on the prospect of invading Mandalore: We'd like to finish one war before starting another.
The old Jedi: Ha. Whimps. We fought three wars consecutively and won them all.
lol.
Yeah, but you old Jedi also got wiped out and were replaced by either the apprentices of the legendary Jedi Exile or some rebels who succeeded on fighting off the traitorous Exile's dark apprentices... the true accounts were lost in time, so I don't know. Regardless, the Jedi and Sith who emerged after these three wars ended were indirectly using the thoughtlines of one Kreia.
@@michaelandreipalon359 In “Canon,” the Exile went light and went after Revan right after the end of Malachor. So it can be assumed that her apprentices set some stuff in motion, though it’s possible there were other Jedi out there that had escaped assassination attempts. The Jedi are able to come back strong enough to be useful in the next Sith War, after all, and I believe Revan’s granddaughter became the new Grand Master during this conflict. I’m not up to date with SW:TOR history (I’d much have preferred a KotOR 3), but it’s an insane story that will probably take 2-3 1-2-hour long videos to get through in enough detail to cover everything. Lol. Sadly, it’ll probably just be a tl;dr 15-20 minute video, though, but hey…beggars can’t be choosers!
@@guitarbass22 I'll just assume that any path would have happened... it's just the fact that the events of the KotOR duology were all too muddled up enough by war, chaos, and back to back liberations and invasions that we never knew who and what were the true genders, personalities, names, romances (if there were any), and allegiances of both Revan and the Exile at all. That's my take, at least.
@@michaelandreipalon359 The Legends (but “canon” to the games) book Star Wars: Revan confirms that Revan is male, marries and has a kid with Bastila, the Exile is a female, everyone went light, and it even explains some plot holes and unanswered questions, like where did Revan go, what happened to him, how did Canderous recover the Mandalore helmet/armor, etc. So feel free to have your head canon all you want, but there are established events in this “canon” (before it became Legends, though it could technically be canon, considering Plagius is canon (I’ll argue that until I’m blue in the face), along with the Rule of 2, started by Darth Bane, who, until said otherwise, started the Rule of 2, inspired by none other than Revan himself). I understand wanting to leave it ambiguous to fulfill whatever you want in the games, and I get it…I like playing Revan as a dark side character and taking over the galaxy with my Infinite Fleet at the end…but there is some established lore there, canon or not, that needs to be accepted for the stories to move forward.
Not to mention almost an entire century of near constant warfare
Never stop making these! They’re the most comprehensive Star Wars history videos on UA-cam!
Agreed this lore is top tier Star Wars
Popular opinion: Revan looks badass whether or not he's a Jedi or a Sith Lord.
Statement: You are absolutely correct, meatbag.
4:08
Nomadic is the perfect term for them. Not even joking.
Also 7:35 "bullsith," love that pun.
A pity they became nomadic again.
Sithspawn is still more sensible.
Its the best when you sit down to relax and geetsly's has just posted a video so the relaxation just got kicked up a notch
Geetsly'xation!
fun fact: Darth Nihilus was a Jedi follower or Revanist of Darth Revan when he was a Jedi Knight who followed him in the Mandolorian War
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another fun fact: Revan is responsible for Darth Nihilus’s creation by ordering the Mass Shadow Generator to be activated on Melanchor 5 which turned him into a wound in the force. ….how ironic 😎. ALL COORDINATED BY YOURS TRULY, Lord Vitiate/ Darth TenBread 🍞😂
Revan was a Jedi, fell, became Dark Lord, was even redeemed, and yet his teachings and philosophies were the basis for Darth Bane’s Rule of 2. How ironic is that. Lol.
Yes Darth Bane found Darth Revans holocron and continued his legacy despite the reedemed Revans efforts
Don't forget the fact that Ajunta Pall, the first ever Sith Lord, can be redeemed in KotOR I.
@@michaelandreipalon359 I wouldn’t say “redeemed,” but by taking away his blade you enabled him to become one with the Force, and take away his dark influence.
@@guitarbass22 Hmm, good point. Still, just goes to show that even the Sith aren't immune to the Light and too much suffering and therefore NOT invincible.
@@michaelandreipalon359 Most of the Sith who were not of the species were fallen Jedi in any case…the fact that the Brotherhood of Darkness resembled the Jedi Council so well shows this. And that’s one of the main things that disgusted Darth Bane the most.
Out of the 4 wars the Great Sith war was the weirdest one, 2 fallen Jedi confront each other and suddenly a old Sith Emperor appears and convert both to Sith. Such a random occasion
Marka Ragnos? Yeah, he feels more like a plot device than a character at times...
The Galactic Republic’s had several different conflict that stretched it to its limits, and the Mandlorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War truly tested it. One was a conflict that ripped the outer rim to bloody shreds and the other brought the Jedi Order to it’s knees, but in truth both conflicts were made by the Sith Emperor to destroy the Republic before the Sith Empire and the Eternal Empire attack the wider Galaxy in his bid for total domination of Galaxy.
There’s always a bigger fish
But why the emperor did not attact just after that it would be a easy win
@@enryseremes4941 because of revan
@@enryseremes4941 He never wanted to conquer the galaxy, he wanted prolonged war to build up dark side energy, to ultimately devour the entire galaxy and become a god.
The Mandalorian wars needs to be made into a game of thrones style show with Revan and Mandalore the ultimate
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity unfortunately your right
Man Rock the ultimate and darth keanu revan, that would be awesome
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity you wouldnt notice under the mask
Game if Thrones isn’t that great anyway, not if it is used as a template for “gritty” storytelling, I feel things should take inspiration but still have its own identity. Besides to tell a mature story doesn’t require copious amounts of violence, sex, or profanity for it to be believable ( it comes off as edgy or just disturbing) , it just needs to be handled in a serious matter with consequences and conflicts that have impact.
@@ominouspuppet4556 I agree with what you said, but when i used game of thrones as an example i meant how it did multiple storylines at the same times, and its early mature storytelling. not exactly the gore, and sex.
"Doing grievous damage." I see what you did there.
So where did the dark trimumverate of Reven holdouts come from? Did all his Sith come from Jedi converts during the war, or did he find some fsrkside cult in wild space, along with the star forge?
Some of them were remnants of the brotherhood of the sith actually
They were remnants of Revans Sith who didn't bugger off and instead hunted from the shadows.
Please continue this series through the legacy era.
Malak only called himself that once he was Sith, when he was a Jedi he went by Alak
I’ve always loved kotor stuff even though I haven’t played the games but learning the history before the original and prequel trilogy is interesting to me even though it’s legends it still canon to me 👍
Agreed this is canon to me because this is top tier Star Wars, brutal war and sacrifice
The current canon isn’t canon to me, legends is
@@Casey-jn3ib agreed, and i am somebody who didn't grow up with legends/EU, after Disney disappointed me for the last time i went to the EU willingly.
Love whenever you do KOTOR lore Geetslys! Keep it up man!!
Glad we could please!
This series is amazing to me. 10 years ago when i was first getting into legends i used to trawl through the timeline on wookiepedia, fantasising about this incredibly rich lore and the stories that would never be told with it.
I can listen to Old Republic history all day long. I only wish Revan and Bastillas son had become force sensitive. Apparently he became a politician maybe he is more dangerous than a Sith Lord.
Don’t worry. His daughter ended up becoming a Grand Master.
@@guitarbass22 o wow i didnt know that. The Revan novelization just gives glips of his life. It only refeferances after he was turned back to the light and the Jedi order surpressed his memories. But. Then he keeps dreaming of the storms of Drummond Kass.
@@rebeldropper8933 Revan’s granddaughter is the one who becomes a Jedi Grand Master. For that you need to jump into SW:TOR lore. Lol.
@@guitarbass22i know what i need to research now. I thought it all ended with Meetra and Emporer Vitiate defeating him in the book. It was actually a great book with a sad ending..but hearing Revans legacy live on gave me a bunch more drive! Thanks man!
If anyone could Rally the people, it is the Son of the famed Jedi Bastila Shan and the Redeemed Lord of the Sith, Revan.
If he is anything like his Father, he would know how to beat politicians at their own game.
Revan’s and Malak’s fall was so crazy bro. From Jedi saviors to Dark Lords of the Sith bent on conquering the Republic. I guess the Star Forge was really that evil
Actually, Revan didn't Fall.
What he did was use the Dark side as a tool. He is possible the ONLY Jedi that used the dark side without being consumed by it. His goal was always to save the republic. After the Mandalorian wars, he went into the unknown regions, sensing soemthing was off, while he was out there, he found the true sith, the ones the Jedi beat a couple of episodes back that fled out and built up again. They had remained hidden for centuries, biding their time, building their fleet and power, and it was them who manipulated the mandalorians into fighting the Republic, as a test to see if they could destory it.
Revan knew when he found this that there was absoloutly no possible way the republic could win. It simply was not possible, and as the Jedi fought, the war would corrupt them, and they would go on to join the sith.
There was no way for the Jedi to beat this threat.
BUT
Perhaps another Sith Empire could.... After all, you can't corrupt a Jedi that has already been corrupted. So thats what he did. He found the Star Forge, churned out his millitary, and set about converting the Jedi to the sith - HIS sith. He kept the infastructure of the republic intact and kept vital supply lines open. He didn't want the republic destoryed, he wanted it to submit so that he could defend it agasint vitiate.
But before he could succede the events of KOTOR took place and he forgot everything he knew.
And this goal kept him pure, he never wanted power, he never wanted to be the strongest, he only ever wanted to save the republic and he sacrificed himself to do it.
I don't know why the revanchists even bothered calling themselves sith. They could have just called themselves the "revanchist empire".
They found an army allied with the sith. This threat was the threat they had sensed and they took control of this army and fleet so that they could lead it and so that it would not fall into the hands of a more destructive/evil Sith Lord or general
This series is seriously great
This is the earliest I've ever been on a Geetsly vid! I'm hyped
Yo it's a new badass intro right there!
In summary: The Jedi and The Republic take turns doing nothing as enemies prepare to go to war with them...
Amazing content as always
Love the gaming network intro lol
Back to watch this once more!
The best timeline in the SW mythos
The only timeline for me
We need a Battlefront: The Mandalorian Wars
It’s Revan time
Happy hour
Amazing man
That intro is awesome
Thank you!
The Old Republic: What the fans want
The High Republic: What Disney think the fans want
6:53 nuclear? The have that in star wars?
Theoretically, the Star Wars galaxy is a far more mature version of our current galaxy, so nuclear weapons would actually have been considered obsolete. (No Canon to back that up, just speculation). Just like the Mandos using slug throwers (the equivalent of our modern day assault rifles) against the jedi because they couldn't deflect metal with their lightsabers.
yes please , also well done you talk about top 2 of 3 of personal fav sith Darth Revan and Darth Nihilus.
I dont even care about star wars when watching these vids i just like the little stories before i go to bed so clear of any movie my own mind imagining everything i hear. It doesnt have to be star wars i also like lodr harry potter etc just fun little stories
Another drinking game when watching Greetsly’s:
2 shots: the phrase “large swathe” is said
1 shot: the word “swathe” is said alone
Love it!! This is awesome…
Can we all just agree that Thrawn is the only person to even stand a chance against Revan in terms of tactics and strategy?
Why did the sith empire wait 300 years? After the dark wars the republic was basically on deaths door
Probably dealing with Revan and internal problems. Plus Vitiate was lokwey fuckin around with forging the Eternal Empire. His focus wasn't really hella focused on his Sith Empire during the 300 years that lead up to SWTOR. During that timebhe was busy occasionally torturing Revan and making sure his Eternal Empire/Fleet was prepared for its future conquest...
Makes you wonder what would happen if the Jedi Order wasn't rebuilt, and possibly even outlawed in the Republic and other parts of the galaxy?
This is my favorite timeline of any production ever made
Super video
Where can I see those drawn maps of the era's and territory?
The Star Wars the essential Atlas
It makes sense why the Jedi were so hated... They are asked to help in war, but they say "No, focus on the Sith we must.". Then they do nothing to confront the dangers at the heart of their hesitation "Dead and gone are the Sith, worry not.". Then they get in the war, Jedi become Sith, Sith attack afterwards, the Jedi and all of the galaxy are decimated. Talk about a curse on the galaxy. :(
The thing is that here the council was right to fear a different threat, one that eventually Revan and Malik would fear as well, but by not involving themselves more and leaving the Revanchists unchecked Malicore 5 being destroyed armed the Sith threat they feared was on the horizon and the repercussions of that destroyed nearly everyone and everything in the galaxy.
In short, even when the council is right they still seem to choose the worst ways to deal with their responsibilities... and the whole galaxy suffers for it. :(
Star wars a galaxy at war decades the coolest wars out there and cooler technology of Star wars long live star wars
This lore before Disney was true Star Wars. Full of brutality and sacrifice
@Exar kun The dark side cosmic entity yes, therefore its not star wars anymore.
You would think after all this time... the Republic would have learn from its own history when it came to the Sith and put into practice the words of the great Shaka Zulu, "Strike an enemy once and for all. Let him cease to exist as a tribe or he will live to fly in your throat again."
After shooting off the leaders of the dark Jedi into wild space, they should have learned from the first Sith War... and sought out the survivors to destroy them. Then most likely none of this would have happened.
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I very much appreciate this
We need more Meetra Surik fan art
Imma be honest here, I never liked that they made the exile female
@@delta2372 that’s a interesting response and I’m compelled to know why you say this.
@@BarakielArts sorry for late reply it's a very lengthy discussion if you really want to hear it
15:07 Thios guy reminds me of Sam Witwer.
I don't thing the KOTOR-era conflicts really got that close to breaking the Republic. I mean, none of the enemies got close enough to hit Coruscant or the Core Worlds, which are the wealthiest and most powerful worlds in the Republic. The Great Hyperspace War, the Exar Kun War, and the Great Galactic War all had the enemy sacking Coruscant and hitting the capital of the Republic, but the Mandalorian Wars, the Jedi Civil War, and the Shadow Wars never got that close. At most, the Outer Rim suffered at the hands of the Mandalorians and Revan's Sith, but they never got close enough to the Core Worlds to do any real damage to the Republic.
Even the SWTOR-era Sith at least sacked Coruscant in their first war with the Republic, and in their second war, they nearly got to Coruscant's doorstep again when they seized Corellia temporarily. And hell, Exar Kun's Brotherhood of Darkness would've probably taken Coruscant if Aleema Keto didn't pussy out and leave her boyfriend to die. Not to mention Naga Sadow's Sith Empire were literal moments away from extinguishing the Republic forever before his apprentice attacked him and disrupted his battle meditation.
Canon Sith seem way more successful at this, they actually hold Coruscant multiple times. But this kinda breaks the lore of Jedi Order being guardians of peace for over a thousand generations in the Old Republic.
Ngl, everytime you say “swathe” I give you 10 points.
i cant believe these events of star wars legends took place just a few years in between wars
14:40: And in my opinion, that threat emerged 3976 years after the Dark Wars ended... and Revan was never seen again, apparently fighting a long yet successful (in delaying terms) one-person war against said threat.
"True Sith Empire," bah! Kreia, please stop embellishing the truth again please.
15:06: Yes again, and I recommend the story of Arden Lyn... one might wonder what happened to her.
Also, is the next Republic History video about the conflicts before the Darth Bane era?
He still has the plot of an entire Star Wars MMO to cover. Lol. We still have a while before Darth Bane and the Brotherhood of Darkness, especially considering how old and dusty the holocron of Revan that Bane found was.
Didn't Arden Lyn get personally slain by Palpatine? Or was that a High or Grand Inquisitor?
No one knows, actually. Her death wasn't shown onscreen or even on artwork.
@@guitarbass22 ...TOR is more of an Infinities story for me, since it's a bit detached from the rest of Star Wars, including the KotOR era in many ways.
This is the Mark Felton of Star Wars
Sweet 👍
So when did the Star Cabal from the Imperial Agent Storyline in SWTOR form? Because even if they purely aimed to separate Vitiate's Sith Empire and the Jedi then they were still absolutely s*** at their jobs before their views and goals became corrupted. Main example - Revan and Malak falling to the Dark Side and sent to find the Star Forge by the Sith Emperor.
Their minds were powerful enough to warp what Vitiate wanted them to do into their own plot and mission, but deep down, Revan knew that he had to strengthen the Republic by turning it into his Empire. So, once they found the Star Forge, Revan put his plan to work and Malak became corrupted by it, neither action served Vitiate at all, but certainly helped to weaken the Republic further. In an ironic twist of fate, by winning the Jedi Civil War, the Republic actually doomed itself 😂😂😂
0:42: Hmm, what's that?
Side not, really stupid Disney is changing the name of Boba Fett’s ship to appease China.
I though they were renaming it to appease Woketards. What's the new name, 'Uhygur Slave 1'?
@Elijah Deivelbiss yes… no lol
The Babylon Bee said that. They are hilarious
Disney is legit changing it just to Boba Fett’s Ship to appease the woke libtards like you said
They asked Lego to change its name to boba fett’s ship. The actor of boba is pissed
Either way, the ultraliberals, ultraconservatives, and the Commies need to pay for damaging the world and society as a whole.
No, they're not. They're just changing what they're calling internally, IIRC.
“Bull sith” you had me😂
WE FINALLY GOT OUR TRAILER LETS GO BOIS
Heavy Plot Armor, which gets transfered to the Rebels once Palpatine takes over.
I'm here to talk about your speeders extended warranty
Ok but like could the republic not make them go to war
Are they not republic citizens
Do jedi have their own sovereignty or are they recognized as their own state?
Flex glue can even stop the republic from splitting
Way better than real world history class
I’m a big history buff and lore like this makes me love reading about real world wars
@@AndreNitroX I never said that real history is boring, just that Star Wars history is more fun, I too enjoy learning about earth history from time to time.
@@grey5744 I never said anything bad about what you said, i just said that star wars history made me enjoy real history
I honestly cannot consider the events of The Old Republic canon with the original timeline. Too many things don't add up, to the point of breaking the canon altogether. Everything from the technology level to the nature and location of the Reconstituted Sith Empire, to the mere presence of the Chiss at this point in the timeline, as well as the massive inconsistencies for the location of the Chiss Ascendancy, Wild Space, the Unknown Regions, and other locations. Not to mention the writing and presentation of the entire story undermines the story of Revan, makes Meetra Surik an irrelevant character despite being, overall, a much more important character than Revan in the KotOR lore, and the complete disregard for the lore of the Force itself and how it works.
Still a fun game with some enjoyable stuff in it, but that shit is its own personal timeline. Too many inconsistencies with the rest of Star Wars lore, be it before that point in the timeline or after it.
I thought it was malak who started the first jedi purge when he attacked the jedi enclave on dantooine.
Isn’t that from the Ewoks cartoon! 3:00
I just want a Revan movie or series so damn bad
... so what's the next threat? Is there a video for it? I gotta know!
So did the Republic not have blasters at all before this? Or was it like, the Mandalorians had much better blasters than the Republic, and the Republic only now adopted those?
I just think it's strange thinking about how they fought a galactic war with space ships and stuff, without having personal blasters
This is such an interesting time in Star Wars lore, I wish Disney would pay some sort of attention to it instead of stuff like the stupid high republic
Revan: Mandalorians are attacking the Republic. Can you please help?
Jedi: No
Revan: Please
Jedi: No
Revan: Please
Jedi: No
Revan: Pweease
Jedi: NO
Revan: OK you can all go suck it.
12:48 "phyyric"?
Whats the rest of the story to this is there a video title
Nihilus: *Hungry Sith noises.*
My one line in the trailer, Me?
...the Eternal Empire on the horizon
Whats ur guys's opinion on darth bandon?
hello there
Why a call to attention for a sergeant in the intro? Aren't they low-ranking officers? For a captain and up, it makes perfect sense. But a sergeant is just one step above the standard infantry, if not part of the standard infantry themselves.
In those specific times, did the entire Jedi Order technically die & another took its place? For example, especially as a means of understanding, Ashoka Tano was expelled from the Jedi Order, despite returning to take command of Clone forces. Luke Skywalker wasn’t officially trained to be a Jedi, the way younglings were trained before Order 66. Thus, any & all official Jedi of authority in those times were gone & those who weren’t official Jedi took the mantle?
A few masters remained and rebuilt and the exile's disciples became the core of a rebuilt jedi order at the time
All you did was repeat what I’ve already typed, @@SamerAN1985. That in summary, the old Jedi Order died & a newer one took its place. The exile is no longer an official part of the Jedi Order, therefore her disciples aren’t official Jedi, based on the Older standards.
Does THAT make sense?
@@nickvinsable3798 what I'm saying is that THEY ARE because a number of masters (maybe two or three) survived in hiding like bastila shan for example.
Yeah, Bastila Shan technically counts/qualifies as a New Gen, as I was describing before, because she technically followed Revan in the First Knights of the Old Republic game, @@SamerAN1985. Try again.
@@nickvinsable3798 she doesn't count as new gen because she was granted rank of master RIGHT AFTER the end of the war alongside revan BY THE OLD COUNCIL so the jedi order is the very same. Why don't you try again
Well it's called "Star Wars" for a reason
20 years? Nothing compared to what Phil Leotardo suffered while he was in the can.
What is the source of this lore?
Cant we all just agree that the republic is always doomed to fail 🤷♂️ seems they are always taking an arse kicking
Wait..... didint you post this same vid like... last week???? I feel like ive seen this from you before..... am i experiencing a mandella??????
revanchists is said like anarchists I thought
Why hasn’t Disney jsut put these 20 years in the timeline yet? Lol
Yes pl
Was that star wars gmod rp? Lol
soemthing about star wars history that annoys the crap out of me, alot of fallen jedi are called sith, even though they have no connection at all to the sith order, and are really nothing more than a fallen jedi
I might be in the minority on this, but given the stuff that apparently happens in The Old Republic, KOTOR 2 feels like a filler episode...