You forgot Darth Krayt's Order where he abandoned the Rule of Two and introduced the Rule of One over All - a Single all-powerful Sith with thousands of Apprentices. Darth Bane's Force Ghost told Krayt that his order would doom the Sith to the infighting and self-annihilation that he, Bane, tried to save it from.
@@attilathegod well Vitiates/Valkorion´s empire was mentioned in this video as the true SIth Empire! Why Vitiates empire finally collapsed after his final death is still unknown, but I think that BioWare will tell that story of the final destruction of the True Sith Empire in the MMORPG THe Old Republic! So maybe soon we´ll know how the republic finally won over the Empire after the events of the expansion of swtor "Onslaught"!
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power. Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. *The Force will set me free.*
One major flaw with Darth Bane"s rule of two is what happens if both of them get killed without a apprentice to carry it on? The student tries to kill the master and they both die in the battle, or even just a random accident when they are traveling together. Or some Jedi have a really good day…
That’s because he perpetuated lie that the Sith were extinct after the battle of Rusan. If the Jedi knew the Sith still existed his order would’ve never worked.
@@coggnus9656 the Jedi did actually discover the existence of the sith order shortly after the rule of two was created but the Jedi who found out made the huge mistake of following zannah to typhon in order to face her and bane without alerting the rest of the council first. It was the death of those Jedi and zannah tricking the Jedi into thinking that her cousin was darth bane on ambria that truly screwed the Jedi
I really like the Eternal Empire and basically every Sith Order until the Rule of Two. They may have had some of the most interesting Sith in this time, but this doesn't change the massive logical flaws the concept has. It's like they activly tried to search for the one solution against infighting, that comes with the most drawbacks. It is seen as smart, because it worked, but it honestly had to, for the story to work.
You have to remember that the Sith are a religion based on the principle of making sacrifices to attain power for the individual. The rule of two is them putting their faith in the dark side to continue the lineage while ensuring that power is necessary to continue. While the rule might not be the smartest, it is just the kind of solution a Sith would think of.
@@elitestranger5262 Do you mean that the Sith idealize the individual, and are devoted to doing what is necessary to produce the most powerful individual? It's not strictly about self ambition?
Thomas Burke I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at. Are you trying to say that them having ambitions disregards the order being based on the principle of attaining individual power or is it something different?
Cake is a lie. There is only pie. Through pie I gain calorie. Through calorie I gain weight. Through weight I gain mass. Through mass my belt is broken. The couch will set me free.
The true sith are my favorite but that's because of Tennabrae/Vitiate/Valkorian, whatever you want to call him, and that I absolutely adore the Eternal Empire and the lore surrounding it.
Geetsly's Agreed he is my favorite Star Wars character and the Eternal Empire is my favorite faction, plus I love the Knights and Scions of Zakuul and how they use the force. Knights of the Fallen Empire and Knights of the Eternal Throne are my favorite pieces of Star Wars story telling. It's not the best but it is definitely my favorite.
This idea of a sith, hiding in the outer rim, which was overlooked, building his empire, sparing his own strength and his (spoiler) death to pass his spirit to a new host, one far more powerful , is such a great idea. Vitiate hiding his real body and taking a number of hosts, each one weaker, is so good. It’s the Rise of Skywalker, but done well.
These eras are the best , when there were armies of Jedi and Sith to follow. Think the decision to only have like two sith max and barley any Jedi is just limiting the story , look at Kotor . Amazing potential story lines.
@@Vigriff the Rule of Two ended the Jedi and gave victory to the Sith. The Chosen One and the Will of the Force (and the Skywalker twins' lucky conception) ended the Sith.
"Hmmst, our constant infighting is causing us to lose. Clearly the solution isn't to stop infighting and instead kill all but 2. I am very intelligent." - Darth Bane
While "two siths" is 101 setting for SW, Bane's belief came in hard way when literally every fellow Sith ("Kaan's lackeys" as he named it) had abused & betrayed him. And Kaan welcomed him back despite his obvious animosity, which culminated in latter's destruction.
@@donnovandalusong266 also Sith: let’s commit genocide on a scale so vast and continue to be assholes afterward Everyone in the galaxy: “no u” Sith: 💀💀💀
U could've mentioned the one sith which was ruled by Darth krayyt decades after the galactic civil war and even well past the death of luke skywalker. They took over territory in the outer rim and operated out of korriban with their ideology being the worship of and servitude to darth krayyt alone, hence the name the rule of "one" sith.
I came to say the same thing. No mention of Krayt and his order? Shit Krayt became the emperor of the Fel Empire for a bit, did he not? And the fact that he is a clone wars era knight and a contemporary of Anakin's?
Awesome video. Love Sith Lore. My favourite incarnations would be: 1. Revan’ s Sith Empire 2. The Order of the Sith Lords 3. The Brotherhood of the Sith (Exar Kun’s Sith Empire) 4. The Resurgent Sith Empire (Post Great Hyper-Space War) 5. Old Sith Empire (PreGreat Hyper-Space War) 6. Sith Triumvirate 7. The New Sith (Not really a favourite)
@@imposterblockade1826 they tried, rumour has it that Disney along side the producers of game of thrones were to do a series or a trilogy in The Old Republic, the same rumour tells that Benioff and Weiss rushed season 8 to go produce it, but they got fired .
I have some questions, what was Darth Vitiate doing while Darth Nihlius was making his reigns? Did they know of each other? Nihlius threatened ALL life of the galaxy so I'm sure Vitiate had to have had some type of input or something right? Or did the creators just ignore each respective characters existed and thats why we hear no mentions of them interacting like we hear mentions of Revan Malak and Vitiate? Just curious !!!
Vitiate and his empire were in hiding in the unknown regions at that point. The real answer is that kotor 2 which tells the story of the exile and the sith triumvirate was made by obsidian whereas the first game and swtor were made by bioware. Bioware basically ignored most of what obsidian made and barely giving explanation of what happened during the revan novel.
Pfft, Darth Nihilus could never eat all the planets, so, why care in the first place? He's just munching a bit here and there. The Star Wars Galaxy has Millions of worlds...
Basically I'm theorising here but from what we know, Vitiate was very absent minded. He was constantly silent. Sometimes even for decades. So it is very much possible he was just having one of his silent phases while nihilus was ravaging the galaxy. Vitiate also was an avid explorer of the galaxy and because he had mastered essence transfer , his soul (basically his immaterial self) could wander and explore the universe while his body was basically lifeless. Eventually though he gave up on the sith empire and left the empire all together to focus on his own eternal empire.
Excellent short history. Would love for you to go more into detail on these, & definitely cover the off-shoots you didn't. I feel like Bane's Rule of Two saved the Sith at the time but also (thousands of years later?) led to it's downfall - a theme often seen in real history.
If the sith history says anything. They were all doomed to fail eventually based on their dark nature. Banes rule of two ensured the survival of the sith and gave them the time they needed to build their power and manipulation. Even if they only got a short time to rule, banes plan came to fruition.
One key problem with the Sith was that they all were pretty self-destructive. That's because the dark side nourishes on death, destruction and suffering, which makes every organization using this power prone to turn on itself to spread all of this.
Lightsider propaganda LUL. The two Sith, Vader and Sidious, built a prosperous empire where colonization of wild space was expanded severely and where peace reigned, etc. They quite literally brought peace, freedom, justice and security to their new empire.
@@konglight4070 So the time the Sith was the most successful was when there were the least amount of Sith involved? And it's ultimate destruction was when Vader turned on Sidious
@@konglight4070 darksider apologist spotted, how so many pretend that the titular “big bad” of the entire SW universe when every iteration of them is rooted in evil acts, customs, traditions, and philosophies of narcissistic power addiction is beyond me It’s like rooting for Hitler, and no one’s dumb enough to believe he wa- huh? What do you mean there are? Nevermind.
that part about revan at 7:18 was great, most bad ass character in star wars and had one of the best character arcs too, we need a live action revan film, but disney is wary and doesnt trust the old republic and the clones wars eras for some goddamn reason, even tho its what everyone wants also great vid, the sith are very interesting and very power hungry
Probably because they can't seem to do anything right by the Star Wars fanbase. They'll be slammed because they refuse to honor all the lore that was created and only continue to hold on to the franchise in a desperate desire to milk the cash cow
As somebody mentioned to me before Disney made their first film after buying the franchise... Disney is incapable of doing Star Wars justice. No films at all would be better than what the current staff at LucasFilm/Disney would make. Disney needs to stay the fuck away from KOTOR. Sell the franchise back to George & then we'll have hope again for Star Wars films.
@@barklordofthesith2997 unfortunately that won't work, Disney didn't use a hostile takeover to get Star Wars. George Lucas sold out the franchise just so he could retire richer than he already was
@@DemonsRun87 You're fake news. Nowhere in my post did i say that Disney used a hostile takeover to buy the franchise. You're using what is known as a "strawman argument" George donated a good amount of the proceeds from the sale to charity.
They are one of THE reasons why the Star Wars Expanded Universe & Star Wars is so cool. Arguably the best written & lored band of villains to ever exist. So fascinating.
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I personally think Revans sith empire was the best, most of Revans forces were defected Republic admirals and troopers who grew loyal to Revan over the Republic itself during the mandolorian wars....Revans following was based more on loyalty then actual hatred of the Republic, everyone revered his power...also while he was strong in the darkside he never let it control him, his goal was to never destroy the republic it was to remake it in order to withstand vitates assault...his empire and his followers were just a means to an end.
Wait. Vitiate never took the Title of Darth. Marka Ragnos only made him a Lord. Vitiate jumped ranks and crowned himself Emperor during the Sith Exodus.
Yeah but Ragnos didn't make Sadow or Kressh anything and Tannebrae/Vitiate was a boy at the time. It seems Ragnos was earmarking Vitiate for something.
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 It's a rank in the game SWOR, and actually it's not certain what the meaning of the word is but that is one possible interpretation. You're view is correct in the Banite era.
@B. Jones No one knows what the name means. It's a mystery. I think it's first attribution is to Darth Andeddu. There are a couple of theories but that's all.
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 actually it’s both since the higher ranking sith during the old republic era were given the title of darth, the only reason vitiate didn’t have that title is probably because he was considered to be even higher above the dark lords. Most of the sith of his empire considered him to be godlike
Darth Bane was a visionary he knew if armies of sith and empires had failed to conquer the galaxy already then they never would. Concentrating the dark side into 2 sith would ensure they had all the power and the opportunity to manipulate the republic and jedi from the shadows.
The more I learned about the Resurgent Sith empire the more I thought Darth vitiate was really dumb for waiting an extra 300 years to attack. Had he attacked right after Kotor 2 the Sith would have completely crushed what little semblance of a republic their was left. The civilians must’ve been sick of war, the military was drained and the Jedi order was barely an after school club. Like I know in real life it’s most likely 300 years later so that all the Kotor characters are dead (expect not because money) and new ship classes can be made. but after all the work Vitiate did to cause the Mandalorian wars and the Jedi civil war he decides to waste it to get military information out of Revan’s head that was already outdated.
100% agree with you If the Sith Empire attacked they would have wiped the floor with the Republic. If i remember correctly there were like 7 Jedi left vs Vitiate and whatever Empire he had at the time
Something that I enjoyed about the Order of the Sith Lords was that it made it so the Sith were hard to beat in battle, as they were considered overlords and very powerful, rather than armies of Sith that were not the best at fighting.
Vitiates Sith order is definitely my favorite although you could have gone a bit more in-depth in how Vitiates plans affected the empire. I personally don’t like the idea that the Sith Empire just collapses and fades away after the events of SWTOR. My personal head cannon is that the fighting continued until Darth Ruin, but instead of him learning from small Sith cults, he learns as the fallen apprentice of the leader of one of a number of small Sith states that sprang out after a major crisis in the Empire
Regarding this topic, what do you think of the One Sith and The Lost Tribe of the Sith. I don’t recall, but were the Sith from the Legacy of the Force books the same as Darth Krayt? We still had Vestara lurking about when OUR canon got so rudely interrupted.
I totally agree with Egie, my true canon is the combo of novels, comic, junior readers and even video game history that they tried to make sure they maintained continuity as much as possible.
Thank you very much. I had heard all these stories before but it really helped that you put them in a timeline and explained how each group fractured apart from the first 12 sith. I may be wrong but at 11:35 in the video did you mean 1010 bby and not 10010 bby?
For the last three years, very few UA-cam videos have told Star Wars lore that I didn't already know. Most of my enjoyment comes from seeing the interpretations of that same lore. I don't always agree, but most of the time. Geetly and Eckhart are on the same page as I am.
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I would really love to see a surviving part of the Sith Empire founded by Vitiate resurging but having learned of the dangers of just using negative emotions as fuel for their power, so they could be more on the "grey" hopefully with pureblood sith still alive
"The Dark Arts are many, varied, ever-changing and eternal. Fighting them is like fighting a many-headed monster, which, each time a neck is severed, sprouts a head even fiercer and cleverer than before. You are fighting that which is *unfixed, mutating, indestructible.* "_ - Severus Snape, Harry Potter/Wizarding World. "To hate me is to give me breath. To fight me is to give me strength." - Vaatu, Legend of Korra "You think you have won! What is light without dark? What are _you_ without *_me?_* I am a part of you all! You can never defeat me! *We are brothers... eternal!"* -The Lord of Darkness, Legend (1985) "Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again." - Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings
I think Jacen and Lumiya could be counted as a brief revival of the Rule of Two, while the One Sith were basically a copy of the Old Sith Empire. Krayt was even trained by one of Ajunta Palls fellow Suth.
The sith are like a fire. Incredibly destructive and powerful but bigger they get the quicker they burn out. Equally they can regrow from an ember into a huge fire again
You forgot the rule of one!!!! When Darth Sidious took over the Republic, and worked on the final dynasty which was the rule of one. The eternal emperor. But other than that. It was awesome.
I like the True Sith Empire the most, sans Vitiate. Might just be because I found my time in the empire I met a lot of different perspectives on the Empire and the Sith, from my mostly Light side Inquisitor (weird I know), to the Operatives I interacted with seeing the Sith as necessary counters if the Jedi. If the Sith moderated to not be bleeding psychopaths 24/7 the empire would have done much better imo
Aside from the new Sith order. I love them all to varying degrees. My top 3 would have be The True Sith Empire. (Darth Vitate's Sith order) Darth Revan's Sith Empire Then the Rule of 2. or The Orginal Sith empire.(Ajunta Pals Sith empire)
True Sith and Sith Triumvirate era is my favorites. That and the most modern era just after Darth Bane like Darth Plagues, Palatine, Darth Vader, and etc....
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What’s the music u use in all ur videos
What about Vitiate/Valkorian and his empire?
You forgot Darth Krayt's Order where he abandoned the Rule of Two and introduced the Rule of One over All - a Single all-powerful Sith with thousands of Apprentices. Darth Bane's Force Ghost told Krayt that his order would doom the Sith to the infighting and self-annihilation that he, Bane, tried to save it from.
@@attilathegod well Vitiates/Valkorion´s empire was mentioned in this video as the true SIth Empire! Why Vitiates empire finally collapsed after his final death is still unknown, but I think that BioWare will tell that story of the final destruction of the True Sith Empire in the MMORPG THe Old Republic! So maybe soon we´ll know how the republic finally won over the Empire after the events of the expansion of swtor "Onslaught"!
Excellent video. The best order for me is still Darth Banes, since it atleast proved to be effective.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
Through passion I gain strength.
Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory.
Through victory my chains are broken.
*The Force will set me free.*
Funny thing is I dont think a single order truly followed this code. They took the first 4 lines and ran with it.
@@2ndlegend125 the force should be used as an ally not a tool or meaningless weapon
@@kayladawn3855 I dont really see how the code itself states that the Sith cant use the force as an ally.
legendlegends rule of 2 ... rule if 1 and most sith are blind by selfishness
Force is Force.
One major flaw with Darth Bane"s rule of two is what happens if both of them get killed without a apprentice to carry it on?
The student tries to kill the master and they both die in the battle, or even just a random accident when they are traveling together.
Or some Jedi have a really good day…
That’s because he perpetuated lie that the Sith were extinct after the battle of Rusan. If the Jedi knew the Sith still existed his order would’ve never worked.
Plus sith left training behind so even if the died a force sensitive would find them
It’s basically operating in deep secrecy with a high risk high reward mentality
@@coggnus9656 the Jedi did actually discover the existence of the sith order shortly after the rule of two was created but the Jedi who found out made the huge mistake of following zannah to typhon in order to face her and bane without alerting the rest of the council first. It was the death of those Jedi and zannah tricking the Jedi into thinking that her cousin was darth bane on ambria that truly screwed the Jedi
@@jakealter5504 homie thats a major plot point in the barth bane trilogy. Try not to spoil it for people who haven't read the book.
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@@geetslys I think this is my favourite video on UA-cam
No... channel is garbage compared to others. WAYY too many adds in the middle of the videos that completely ruin the video’s
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I really like the Eternal Empire and basically every Sith Order until the Rule of Two. They may have had some of the most interesting Sith in this time, but this doesn't change the massive logical flaws the concept has. It's like they activly tried to search for the one solution against infighting, that comes with the most drawbacks.
It is seen as smart, because it worked, but it honestly had to, for the story to work.
Eternal Empire GANG. I loved Valkorion as a character: cool name, cool armor, cool voice, cool concept
Great stories about them too as well as amazing characters
You have to remember that the Sith are a religion based on the principle of making sacrifices to attain power for the individual. The rule of two is them putting their faith in the dark side to continue the lineage while ensuring that power is necessary to continue. While the rule might not be the smartest, it is just the kind of solution a Sith would think of.
@@elitestranger5262 Do you mean that the Sith idealize the individual, and are devoted to doing what is necessary to produce the most powerful individual? It's not strictly about self ambition?
Thomas Burke I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at. Are you trying to say that them having ambitions disregards the order being based on the principle of attaining individual power or is it something different?
Cake is a lie. There is only pie.
Through pie I gain calorie.
Through calorie I gain weight.
Through weight I gain mass.
Through mass my belt is broken.
The couch will set me free.
That’s some serious pie right there
Thought right there is called food for thought
WT F That is halarious😂
The Rule of Food
The philosophy of Darth Baras
I don't care what the Rat house says. This is, and will be forever, canon.
Amen to that.
Disney Canon should be it’s own stuff, besides the clone wars show
@@geetslys it should be its own stuff but based on this stuff.
AMEN TO THAT!!!
I concur
I'm not first
I'm not last
but most importantly
No one asked
Finally someone gets it!
That was poetic
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@@geetslys 355th!
The true sith are my favorite but that's because of Tennabrae/Vitiate/Valkorian, whatever you want to call him, and that I absolutely adore the Eternal Empire and the lore surrounding it.
I love Vitiate
Geetsly's Agreed he is my favorite Star Wars character and the Eternal Empire is my favorite faction, plus I love the Knights and Scions of Zakuul and how they use the force. Knights of the Fallen Empire and Knights of the Eternal Throne are my favorite pieces of Star Wars story telling. It's not the best but it is definitely my favorite.
This idea of a sith, hiding in the outer rim, which was overlooked, building his empire, sparing his own strength and his (spoiler) death to pass his spirit to a new host, one far more powerful , is such a great idea. Vitiate hiding his real body and taking a number of hosts, each one weaker, is so good. It’s the Rise of Skywalker, but done well.
Eternal Empire forever 🔥🔥
Thank you for bringing us a succinct overview of the Sith.
No problem!
The only thing people feared more than the Sith, not having the high ground in a fight.
These eras are the best , when there were armies of Jedi and Sith to follow. Think the decision to only have like two sith max and barley any Jedi is just limiting the story , look at Kotor . Amazing potential story lines.
Not only that but the Rule of Two basically ended the Sith which I find it kind of funny.
Well the rule of two was flawed and perfect.
Personally the rule of two sith are my favorite but I can see the story potential of more sith
@@Vigriff the Rule of Two ended the Jedi and gave victory to the Sith. The Chosen One and the Will of the Force (and the Skywalker twins' lucky conception) ended the Sith.
"Hmmst, our constant infighting is causing us to lose. Clearly the solution isn't to stop infighting and instead kill all but 2. I am very intelligent."
- Darth Bane
You know that they killed the other sith because the less sith, the stronger the force for those who are left to weild it
While "two siths" is 101 setting for SW, Bane's belief came in hard way when literally every fellow Sith ("Kaan's lackeys" as he named it) had abused & betrayed him. And Kaan welcomed him back despite his obvious animosity, which culminated in latter's destruction.
@@abdullahansari437 you realize that's canon, the force for dark users is like venom. Literally canon
@@abdullahansari437 look it up
@@abdullahansari437 look up the Darth bane audiobook. It explains exactly what I'm talking about
Sith species: *exist*
Jedi: no I don't think you will
Sith: and this is why we hate you
@@donnovandalusong266 also Sith: let’s commit genocide on a scale so vast and continue to be assholes afterward
Everyone in the galaxy: “no u”
Sith: 💀💀💀
U could've mentioned the one sith which was ruled by Darth krayyt decades after the galactic civil war and even well past the death of luke skywalker. They took over territory in the outer rim and operated out of korriban with their ideology being the worship of and servitude to darth krayyt alone, hence the name the rule of "one" sith.
I came to say the same thing. No mention of Krayt and his order? Shit Krayt became the emperor of the Fel Empire for a bit, did he not? And the fact that he is a clone wars era knight and a contemporary of Anakin's?
@@znmckague he defo deserved to be mentioned it's not like he's hard to find
Awesome video. Love Sith Lore. My favourite incarnations would be:
1. Revan’ s Sith Empire
2. The Order of the Sith Lords
3. The Brotherhood of the Sith (Exar Kun’s Sith Empire)
4. The Resurgent Sith Empire (Post Great Hyper-Space War)
5. Old Sith Empire (PreGreat Hyper-Space War)
6. Sith Triumvirate
7. The New Sith (Not really a favourite)
You really know your star wars lore, I honestly think disney needs to make a show on the old republic
@@imposterblockade1826 true the old republic is my favourite but iam worried that Disney will screw it up
My favorite Sith order is the order of the Sith Lords
@@imposterblockade1826 they tried, rumour has it that Disney along side the producers of game of thrones were to do a series or a trilogy in The Old Republic, the same rumour tells that Benioff and Weiss rushed season 8 to go produce it, but they got fired .
Sith lore is so interesting to me.
I feel the same way
I have some questions, what was Darth Vitiate doing while Darth Nihlius was making his reigns? Did they know of each other? Nihlius threatened ALL life of the galaxy so I'm sure Vitiate had to have had some type of input or something right? Or did the creators just ignore each respective characters existed and thats why we hear no mentions of them interacting like we hear mentions of Revan Malak and Vitiate? Just curious !!!
Vitiate and his empire were in hiding in the unknown regions at that point. The real answer is that kotor 2 which tells the story of the exile and the sith triumvirate was made by obsidian whereas the first game and swtor were made by bioware. Bioware basically ignored most of what obsidian made and barely giving explanation of what happened during the revan novel.
Vitiate was getting his empire ready for war
Pfft, Darth Nihilus could never eat all the planets, so, why care in the first place? He's just munching a bit here and there. The Star Wars Galaxy has Millions of worlds...
Basically I'm theorising here but from what we know,
Vitiate was very absent minded. He was constantly silent. Sometimes even for decades. So it is very much possible he was just having one of his silent phases while nihilus was ravaging the galaxy. Vitiate also was an avid explorer of the galaxy and because he had mastered essence transfer , his soul (basically his immaterial self) could wander and explore the universe while his body was basically lifeless.
Eventually though he gave up on the sith empire and left the empire all together to focus on his own eternal empire.
Hey Geetsly, thanks for making my comment about the poor Lancer Battalion the comment of the week!
Always glad to feature my fan’s comments in my videos!
Excellent short history. Would love for you to go more into detail on these, & definitely cover the off-shoots you didn't.
I feel like Bane's Rule of Two saved the Sith at the time but also (thousands of years later?) led to it's downfall - a theme often seen in real history.
If the sith history says anything. They were all doomed to fail eventually based on their dark nature. Banes rule of two ensured the survival of the sith and gave them the time they needed to build their power and manipulation. Even if they only got a short time to rule, banes plan came to fruition.
One key problem with the Sith was that they all were pretty self-destructive. That's because the dark side nourishes on death, destruction and suffering, which makes every organization using this power prone to turn on itself to spread all of this.
Exactly. It doesn’t matter if they took over the galaxy for a couple of years, they would be doomed to failure based off their dark nature.
Lightsider propaganda LUL. The two Sith, Vader and Sidious, built a prosperous empire where colonization of wild space was expanded severely and where peace reigned, etc. They quite literally brought peace, freedom, justice and security to their new empire.
@@konglight4070 So the time the Sith was the most successful was when there were the least amount of Sith involved? And it's ultimate destruction was when Vader turned on Sidious
@@konglight4070 darksider apologist spotted, how so many pretend that the titular “big bad” of the entire SW universe when every iteration of them is rooted in evil acts, customs, traditions, and philosophies of narcissistic power addiction is beyond me
It’s like rooting for Hitler, and no one’s dumb enough to believe he wa- huh? What do you mean there are? Nevermind.
@@konglight4070 Lol, you mean the Empire that lasted all of 25 years?
that part about revan at 7:18 was great, most bad ass character in star wars and had one of the best character arcs too, we need a live action revan film, but disney is wary and doesnt trust the old republic and the clones wars eras for some goddamn reason, even tho its what everyone wants
also great vid, the sith are very interesting and very power hungry
Probably because they can't seem to do anything right by the Star Wars fanbase. They'll be slammed because they refuse to honor all the lore that was created and only continue to hold on to the franchise in a desperate desire to milk the cash cow
@@DemonsRun87 fr tho
As somebody mentioned to me before Disney made their first film after buying the franchise... Disney is incapable of doing Star Wars justice.
No films at all would be better than what the current staff at LucasFilm/Disney would make. Disney needs to stay the fuck away from KOTOR. Sell the franchise back to George & then we'll have hope again for Star Wars films.
@@barklordofthesith2997 unfortunately that won't work, Disney didn't use a hostile takeover to get Star Wars. George Lucas sold out the franchise just so he could retire richer than he already was
@@DemonsRun87 You're fake news.
Nowhere in my post did i say that Disney used a hostile takeover to buy the franchise. You're using what is known as a "strawman argument"
George donated a good amount of the proceeds from the sale to charity.
They are one of THE reasons why the Star Wars Expanded Universe & Star Wars is so cool. Arguably the best written & lored band of villains to ever exist. So fascinating.
Dude I am glued to your videos. You are literally an Information Master. The force is strong with you 💯
Jesus Christ is Lord. Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It really is important;
I personally think Revans sith empire was the best, most of Revans forces were defected Republic admirals and troopers who grew loyal to Revan over the Republic itself during the mandolorian wars....Revans following was based more on loyalty then actual hatred of the Republic, everyone revered his power...also while he was strong in the darkside he never let it control him, his goal was to never destroy the republic it was to remake it in order to withstand vitates assault...his empire and his followers were just a means to an end.
Wait. Vitiate never took the Title of Darth. Marka Ragnos only made him a Lord. Vitiate jumped ranks and crowned himself Emperor during the Sith Exodus.
Yeah but Ragnos didn't make Sadow or Kressh anything and Tannebrae/Vitiate was a boy at the time. It seems Ragnos was earmarking Vitiate for something.
Nameless Somebody Darth is a title meaning "conqueror of death," not a rank.
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 It's a rank in the game SWOR, and actually it's not certain what the meaning of the word is but that is one possible interpretation. You're view is correct in the Banite era.
@B. Jones No one knows what the name means. It's a mystery. I think it's first attribution is to Darth Andeddu. There are a couple of theories but that's all.
@@GeneralGrievous-1138 actually it’s both since the higher ranking sith during the old republic era were given the title of darth, the only reason vitiate didn’t have that title is probably because he was considered to be even higher above the dark lords. Most of the sith of his empire considered him to be godlike
Take a shot everytime he says sith
Don't
Instructions unclear, car parked in store window.
The word *Sith* became so objectionable that even a anagram of it became a swear word.
What the sithspit are you talking about?
@@helikos1 There's only one anagram word you can get from sith: shit
@@DemonsRun87 I don't think you understand what I'm talking about.
@@DemonsRun87 " There's only one anagram"
This hits Sith shit.
So we just gonna ignore and forget the lost tribe of the sith and Darth Kryat's sith and rule of one?
Yep, it bugs me so much.
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@@5idi as stated they're offshoots
Darth Bane was a visionary he knew if armies of sith and empires had failed to conquer the galaxy already then they never would. Concentrating the dark side into 2 sith would ensure they had all the power and the opportunity to manipulate the republic and jedi from the shadows.
The Eternal empire was like the mandalorians under Mandalore the ultimate (Te ani laan Mandalor).Worshipping war and creating chaos inturn .
Didn't expect to get on youtube right when a sith video was uploaded the force works in mysterious ways.
When you absolutely, positively have to bleed your lightsaber crystal overnight
This is one of the best videos you have ever made. Well done!
The more I learned about the Resurgent Sith empire the more I thought Darth vitiate was really dumb for waiting an extra 300 years to attack. Had he attacked right after Kotor 2 the Sith would have completely crushed what little semblance of a republic their was left. The civilians must’ve been sick of war, the military was drained and the Jedi order was barely an after school club. Like I know in real life it’s most likely 300 years later so that all the Kotor characters are dead (expect not because money) and new ship classes can be made.
but after all the work Vitiate did to cause the Mandalorian wars and the Jedi civil war he decides to waste it to get military information out of Revan’s head that was already outdated.
If I remember correctly, Revan was influencing him to wait.
James LeDuke yeah I know but 300 years seems like a really big stretch.
@@luckysix1015 Revan fucked Vitiate mental up. Revan is so OP
100% agree with you If the Sith Empire attacked they would have wiped the floor with the Republic. If i remember correctly there were like 7 Jedi left vs Vitiate and whatever Empire he had at the time
@@jamesleduke873 and he wanted to know how revan got free of his control
My problem with the rule of two is what happens if they both die in a plane crash or something equally silly, well fuck..
Something that I enjoyed about the Order of the Sith Lords was that it made it so the Sith were hard to beat in battle, as they were considered overlords and very powerful, rather than armies of Sith that were not the best at fighting.
Vitiates Sith order is definitely my favorite although you could have gone a bit more in-depth in how Vitiates plans affected the empire.
I personally don’t like the idea that the Sith Empire just collapses and fades away after the events of SWTOR.
My personal head cannon is that the fighting continued until Darth Ruin, but instead of him learning from small Sith cults, he learns as the fallen apprentice of the leader of one of a number of small Sith states that sprang out after a major crisis in the Empire
Swtor isn't finnished yet maybe in a few years we will know how vitiate's Empire finally collapsed.
If WE are Lucky, then Darth desolous, who Lived one century after swtor, Got inspired by vitiate's Empire.
Or at least by cults that originated in The true Sith
the jedi who ended these dynasties deserve their own video, especially Hero Of Typhon.
Regarding this topic, what do you think of the One Sith and The Lost Tribe of the Sith.
I don’t recall, but were the Sith from the Legacy of the Force books the same as Darth Krayt?
We still had Vestara lurking about when OUR canon got so rudely interrupted.
Couldn’t agree more
I totally agree with Egie, my true canon is the combo of novels, comic, junior readers and even video game history that they tried to make sure they maintained continuity as much as possible.
Proud to say I've reached the point where I can identify Geetsly's by voice when clicking a Star Wars video randomly
Who said youtube comment sections are cancer? Clearly they've never been to the Geetsly's channel.
Half of them are complaints about him not touching on their pet favorite fringe sect. :-\
Hello there! Some Jedi Order's were as well.Thank you for entertaining!
Very well done brother, bravo!!
Thank you very much. I had heard all these stories before but it really helped that you put them in a timeline and explained how each group fractured apart from the first 12 sith. I may be wrong but at 11:35 in the video did you mean 1010 bby and not 10010 bby?
“I’ve been looking forward to this”
Chad Bane destroys the Brotherhood
He did learn from Revan.
Bane was the only true sith among the brotherhood
For the last three years, very few UA-cam videos have told Star Wars lore that I didn't already know. Most of my enjoyment comes from seeing the interpretations of that same lore. I don't always agree, but most of the time. Geetly and Eckhart are on the same page as I am.
11:47 I want a link too that picture. I have never seen a picture of Darth bane undamaged like that.
Geetsly, you are a fucking treasure my friend.
Its 7.35 AM finnish time.
When i woke up and i saw your video.
I just clikked
Darth Bane learned the rule of two from Darth Revan’s holocron
But Bane accomplished it
The good old days...when Dark Jedis were a thing...
Dark Jedi are still canonical
this was cool dude, thanks
I love the Rule of two era. Not only because they were the ones who won. Their philosophy of rotting the republic is so fascinating.
It’s modern warfare. You don’t destroy your enemies on the battlefield anymore instead you kill their culture from the inside
Jesus Christ is Lord. Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It really is important;
To think one sith plotted and won against the republic, imagine a whole army of siths
You know, watching this now and remembering Kotor (spoilers), it makes sense now to discover Ulic's Robes on Korriban.
'Sithiness' is my new favorite word
I would really love to see a surviving part of the Sith Empire founded by Vitiate resurging but having learned of the dangers of just using negative emotions as fuel for their power, so they could be more on the "grey" hopefully with pureblood sith still alive
I always thought you should’ve touch this topic
Few years to late, but you forgot the Lost Tribe Of The Sith
Seriously geetsly been epic i love it
Forgot the One Sith
Ah yea would love a video on the lost tribe of the sith. Great book. Very interesting storyline.
Great vid
Each sith empire learned from the ones before it, and lasted longer and stronger each time
2:08 IT'S YA BOI DARTH NOX
Thank you for informing me on star wars as I smoke my weed
fyi, malak didnt "strike down" revan. revan's ship was attacked and malak left him for dead and took over.
And Revan lived... Long live Revan!
The force is not a shield to protect the useless but is, in reality, a weapon to empower the worthy!
"rise Padawan and we shall kill your masters, they cannot kill us all"
That one Padawan: "but isnt there one master for every Padawan?"....
Different things are different FROM each other, and similar things are similar TO each other.
"The Dark Arts are many, varied, ever-changing and eternal. Fighting them is like fighting a many-headed monster, which, each time a neck is severed, sprouts a head even fiercer and cleverer than before. You are fighting that which is *unfixed, mutating, indestructible.* "_
- Severus Snape, Harry Potter/Wizarding World.
"To hate me is to give me breath. To fight me is to give me strength."
- Vaatu, Legend of Korra
"You think you have won! What is light without dark? What are _you_ without *_me?_* I am a part of you all! You can never defeat me! *We are brothers... eternal!"*
-The Lord of Darkness, Legend (1985)
"Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again."
- Gandalf, The Lord of the Rings
Ho often can you say Sith in one video
Geetslys: yes
The sith weren’t afraid to change and take on new ideas. Something the Jedi couldn’t do.
I want to know more about the Eternal Empire.
So in the Star Wars MMO, the cannon ending is that The Empire gets destroyed.
Dang no mention of the rule of one sith? Or darth caedus?
Lovely video!!
I think Jacen and Lumiya could be counted as a brief revival of the Rule of Two, while the One Sith were basically a copy of the Old Sith Empire. Krayt was even trained by one of Ajunta Palls fellow Suth.
The sith are like a fire. Incredibly destructive and powerful but bigger they get the quicker they burn out. Equally they can regrow from an ember into a huge fire again
This is a great video, however Lumyra’s Sith and the One Sith aren’t discussed in the video.
So much Sithery! LoL. Nice
Honestly would love you know more about all 6 of them.
The only word that brought more fear than sith is jar jar binks
You forgot the rule of one!!!! When Darth Sidious took over the Republic, and worked on the final dynasty which was the rule of one. The eternal emperor. But other than that. It was awesome.
"Sithery."
Exemplary!
Very interesting to learn!
I like the True Sith Empire the most, sans Vitiate. Might just be because I found my time in the empire I met a lot of different perspectives on the Empire and the Sith, from my mostly Light side Inquisitor (weird I know), to the Operatives I interacted with seeing the Sith as necessary counters if the Jedi. If the Sith moderated to not be bleeding psychopaths 24/7 the empire would have done much better imo
love the picture at 7:50 could someone kindly link it
Aside from the new Sith order. I love them all to varying degrees.
My top 3 would have be The True Sith Empire. (Darth Vitate's Sith order)
Darth Revan's Sith Empire
Then the Rule of 2. or The Orginal Sith empire.(Ajunta Pals Sith empire)
You forgot the One Sith in Star Wars Legacy. Under Darth Krayt.
True Sith and Sith Triumvirate era is my favorites. That and the most modern era just after Darth Bane like Darth Plagues, Palatine, Darth Vader, and etc....
how about the "lost tribe of the sith"?(legends) they survived longer than all the other order's (until Luke was the grandmaster of the Jedi)
Please do a video about Darth Krayt's One Sith. And maybe aldo about Darth Dredd tried to destroy the Sith after Krayt's death
Thank u bro I will join next Payday
Darth Nympho, the Crossbreeding Alchemist
Vitiate never claimed the title of Darth.
He was Lord Vitiate under Marka Ragnos rule, later he became the Emperor.
Did you know that both sith empires you discussed are both presented as two empires battling each other in the new timeline of star wars
Jesus Christ is Lord. Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It really is important;