How to tie Dropper Loop Knot for Bottom Fishing
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2017
- Here is a video tutorial on how to easily tie a dropper loop rig for bottom fishing, one of the most effective rigs for offshore is the double dropper loop. This rig allows you to fish multiple baits both live and dead while getting down to the desired or necessary depths to obtain strikes. It's very effective when targeting grouper, snapper, grunts and many more bottom dwellers. Come along as I walk you through step by step on how to properly tie the dropper loop. If you enjoyed this instruction, please give a thumbs up, comment and subscribe. Thank you!
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Joshua@SaltyScales.com - Навчання та стиль
After 3 or 4 videos of the dropper loop, this is the clearest and easiest to follow. good job.
+arthur pete Thanks for watching
Can't wait to put this rig to use! Very clear instructions, good video!
Chris Canning
My go to rig for snapper. Great tut Capt. Tight lines 🎣
thank you sir this is exactly the medium level high low rig setup i was looking for ,made mine with twists but used loop knots to make them from the main line but i knew there was something close to an easy T joint with a twist and i found it
Glad it helped
Outstanding video! Exactly what I was looking for.
Awesome little video on this dropper loop variation. Enjoyed it and will use it. Thanks.
Thanks John, glad you liked it.
Cpt. Joshua, Neat video. The only thing I learned that you did not go over was to be sure you come in from the back side of the hook or it does not hang right. I know you showed it (twice) but when I learned it I missed that part and made several the wrong way. DUH!!! I surely do watch it now. Tight Lines and Happy Times Dude!
I apologize Dino, I will try and be more precise with future tutorials. ;)
NOTHING to apologize to me for Joshua. Mine are just suggestions. You are doing a FINE job Sir! Love the help and tips!!! Thanks for the help! :)
Just set up my poles for fishing with my 3 year old's first trip out in the boat. I'm using this setup on my abu for its first trip out, too.
Thanks for the clear instructions.
You're welcome DJ and good luck!
hey, josh keep up the videos def got another rig in my arsenal.
Thanks Jose, glad to help.
Great instructions, super clear, you might want the think about placing the loop through the hook the other way, when using a normal j hook it will help to sink the hook in better, obviously not as critical with a full circle type.... just a tip.... fish hard guys and gals!!!
Nice informative video! Thanks for posting!!
Tks going to give it a try... the way i was doing it... it would always tangle up thanks for the tip keep on Fishin
+Magic Jones This one won't tangle to much
Thanks - this was very clear and informative .
You're welcome
Have to try it out love your vids keep it up
diggin the tutorial videos!! keep up the good work 👍
+Robert Pena Thanks Robert, will do.
Joshua, you make tying knots look So Simple. Thanks, it's working. NOW, what would I lke to see? I would like to see You using your knots to fish. Sounds like Fun TOO!!! Tight Lines and Happy Times Dude!!!
More fishing, less work is what the doctor ordered. ;)
Excellent video. Been doing it wrong all these years !!! BtW. I use a dropper loop for my weight also.
that's a great drop rig my brotha I'm going to have to try it out on my next fishing trip thanks bro
+Salvador Cisneros Thank you sir, let me know what you think.
Great video can't wait to use this rig
+Derek Miguel Thanks Derek, let me know what you think.
Thanks for the clear easy to understand vid. One question: I've always had better hook ups w/ circles coming into the eye in the same direction as the point. Curious why you come from the back on this rig?
Very good instructor, I was able to do this.
Thanks you very much sir.. very easy and useful for me..
That was so helpful thx
That one is gonna take some practice ,I'm gonna give it a shot . Nice vid Josh 👍🏻
+AJ S It's a little more difficult but you'll have it in no time.
that a damn good way to rig hooks. I like it!👍
Great technique bud.
Very good to do it thank you
Awesome! Thanks!
Great video. Thanks for sharing
+A Good you're welcome
Nice tutorial, I use this rig for bait fishing. Only exception is I don't bother with the swivel for the sinker, I just make a loop. I figure it's not absolutely necessary since I'm just casting from the beach.
Thank you very helpful
Great rig..... thanks Joshua !!
+Alvin Wolfe You're welcome
great video man!
+Johnny Que Thanks Johnny
will try this
Keep them coming
+esquivelfreddy Just posted a new knot video, check it out.
very good alternative.
Thumbs up, very good tutorial. I bought some that are all metal do you think they are as good or are fish more scared since they can see those easier?
Trying to do this with 20 lb mono is not so easy . . . especially the part with splitting the center with the finger nail. That's where I get stuck every time. Great video thanks for the info.
Your videos are fantastic. I would like to see your take and video on tying on a shock leader. Like the main line is 20lb test and the Shock leader is 60lb. What do you like to use.
I appreciate that Marco, I will try and put together a video.
can we make the loop longer? Great and clear instruction
Sharp and strong. I use 6/0 for black fish and 8/0 for striped bass
nice tutorial
+Fishing Channel Thank you
Awesome video Josh. I've been fighting this knot since last season and am gonna try your twist to you and away trick. One question, at 7:29 any concerns that the line being pulled against the end of the crimp of the hook eye will fray or get cut during an extended battle? I surf fish in NC and a drum or striper can take over 5 minutes to bring in. I've always been worried about the line being cinched up against the hook like that since it's essentially just a cut steel end.
nice rig Great tut Capt. Tight lines. give mi hooks :D
Much appreciated. I've never been clear on how one ties those neat twisted dropper loops. Now I do. Thank you!!
You're welcome, glad to give clarification.
Awesome
Great video, thanks for the info. Can you use this while surf fishing if you put the hooks closer together?
This is a great surf rig, sand fleas and shrimp.
so what knot would you use to tie your leader on to your main line now that you have the to drop already hooked up
Instruction best I've watched
Thank you!
Hey Josh. I'm trying to tie this rig using #60 Yo-zuri Fluorocarbon leader material. I'm having a difficult time getting the initial haywire twist, as well as getting the knot to sinch down evenly. Any suggestions or recommendations would be appreciated. I could tie all the knots without the twist, but i want the rigidity that the twist brings to the hook line. Thanks.
Willie
Added to favorites....looks like an easier/better way to get more length between hook and main line than just using a surgeons loop for the hooks without it being too floppy so as to get tangled during casting.
+Phillip Kirkpatrick Thanks bud, I agree.
This was informative. I have never seen this before myself. is this rig used for cut bait or can u put some live bait as well? Nice video.
+Big O! You can use this rig for both cut or live bait.
Joshua Taylor yep that's right
Josh very clear directions thank you. What size leader would you use? How deep do you suggest.
+C.P Bagley Depends on the species, 30 to 80lb leader. I fish bottom with this rig.
Does that twisting work with heavier Fluorocarbon Leader
Nice....
Nice
Great video. What rig do you recommend when fishing from a bridge or off a dock when fishing bottom?
+Pablo Diaz I like the sliding sinker rig or free line
Joshua Taylor so do i
Salty Scales Carolina rig!!!
When using circle hooks the 'proper' way to have the hook tied is with the line coming out of the eye towards the point of the hook, not towards the back as shown in this video. Of course you'll still catch fish either way, but there are loads of great articles and videos showing the difference, with how the hook rotates in the fishes mouth. Otherwise, this vid is freaking awesome!
Thanks, honestly I was just focused on how to tie the dropper loops and really didn't pay much attention when adding the hooks. I've used them both ways and have seen little difference.
is this the same knot you would use for dropshotting freshwater bass fishing in a lake? If not what knot would you recommend?
Hello, Isaac, I would recommend this knot here: ua-cam.com/video/Xxq1AkYtvwY/v-deo.html
I like to strengthen your dropper hook rig but personally I use the heavier line2design that part of the rig and then I add half-strength Breakaway leader to the bottom small loop on one side and large loop on the other side of course I attach to led to the large loop. Then I had a snelled hook for the drops. Finally you never told us what to do with the swivel but I know where that goes obviously. But yeah I'm putting half-strength Breakaway later on each of those points except for the swivel simply because anything should be able to get away from me without me losing the entire rig. Now as for the exact measurements on where to be putting your ties. I suggest you use whatever's comfortable for your neck of the woods.
I am doing exactly what you are but when I go to pull on the tag end and the main end, my looper knot shrinks until it is completely gone. In other words, I cannot tighten the knot to hard or it undoes the knot that I have created. Have you had this problem before?
i wonder if this would work for crappie if you put it on the right hooks and the right line
I don't see why not
Nice vid I use double surgeon loop knot for this, is there an advantage to this way?
There are so many knots, it really boils down to ease of use, strength and preference. If you have a knot that works for you, no need to change it, unless you just wanted to try something new of course.
I believe this knot is stronger. This knot is around 60+%. The advanced surgeon loop is less than 50%. If you can use thicker line and get away with, it is easier to tie.
The twist is a good little trick, but I would suggest using out turned eye hooks or putting the line threw the opposite way of the video. Will make the hook gap open up more, not hide behind the shank.
Would you recommend this rig for striper and cats using cut bait in canals?
I've never used it for stripers but I know it would work, especially in the surf. This rig definitely works for catfish.
In this rig can we use J HOOK?
Great video, Why not use triple swivels? Cost?
I try and eliminate hardware when not necessary.
Great rig Demonstration.
In my opinion the line should enter the front of the hook eye, not the back, to increase the hook up rate of the Circle hook.
100% correct
How crazy is it that the snapper season got shortened! I'm so mad whenever I dive 50-80 feet there are non-stop reds now we only got 3 days to fish for them 😤
+Cort Mitchell It's all about money my friend, it's sad.
Joshua Taylor it is 😔
Cort Mitchell
And commercial fishermen get to keep em!
Is it true u have to snell a circle hook for it to work right on a hook set
I don't think it's true at all.
In all the videos I watch you never finished the process by attaching the leader line to the main line can you do that in a video? Also in that video if you do decide to make it or just answer the question do you use a uni knot or do you use a snap swivel?
I use a multitude of knots but my favorites are the uni, FG and even the bimini is nice. Have a look at the playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLXLQVmxnp-5w_YBecVF13rPx8_PvUfeHf.html
use another NON twist dropper loop for the sinker....you can remove/replace faster than the snap swivel...
Would a perfection loop or Palomar knot be more efficient and much faster?
They are faster but used in different ways.
Use a Surgeon's loop.
I kinda feel like this rig might be good for the mangrove snapper or possibly the sheep's head that swim around the dock that I got fishing at
+Vincent Roncalli It will definitely work for snapper and sheepshead
Joshua Taylor what size hook would you suggest? I kinds feel like I'm going a little to big with the hook.
For inshore snapper I like a 1/0 or 2/0. Especially when using live pilchards.
Do you have anything that is faster? When u r on the water and the bite is and you have gone through all of your pre-tied rigs.....
I have some faster rigs, I'll try and put together a video.
Surgeon's loop, much faster
I usually skip the twist at the beginning, also i put the loop through the opposite side of the hook eye to ensure better hook sets...
Nice dropper loop set, recommend using a surgeons loop to attach your weight. that way you can change weights as the current changes.
That’s a sexy circle hook. What brand is it please?
Can you use this rig to fish of the pier
+VoZe B Absolutely
What’s the difference between a dropped loop knot and T knot? Which one is better?
They both take too long, use a Surgeon's loop.
Do you do any flounder giging?
I have never tried it but is sounds fun.
good
Thanks Jerry
Looks good but u got the line through the hook backwards.... I have done a lot of deep water fishing and shoreline fishing here in Hawaii especially with circle hooks.Your hook up ratio will improve if u do so.
The purpose of this tutorial is to show the knots, you are welcome to add the hook however you please.
Good job, we have one hobby
You should have the line come out of the front of the hook to continue the bent hook effect effectively! Ok 👍
Can you do this with braided line?
+Damon Bradshaw I don't recommend this rig with braid
GREAT VIDEO ... BUT you put the line coming out of the circle hook on backwards... it should come out on the same side as the point of the hook... this is what gives the hook the torque to hook in the side of the mouth
how do you think this rig would work salmon fishing the Sacramento River
I think it could work but honestly I've never caught a salmon yet, it is on my bucket list for the UA-cam page however.
Salty Scales starts on the 16th man
Don't tempt me, my wife hasn't seen me all month though lol.
Salty Scales mines in Dallas ..... haha .... two more days and it's on and Poppin here in NorCal
It should be mentioned that while dropper loops are great for keeping the hook away from the main line they are a weak knot. If you are using dropper loops the leader needs to be double or more the weight of the main line.
Can you do a rig for red Snapper?:)
Absolutely, have you seen my snapper rig tutorial that I made?
Way better rig than the traditional Drop Shot Rig..
i always have issues with the twists.
steven carter It can be challenging at times.
🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
the best to put line on a spinning reel for tutorial
+DJ FISHING Thanks for the suggestion, I'm sure I can make it happen.
Quad dropper rig
Looks kind of complicated for a girl but I'm going to give it go. Thank you.
Stephanie Taylor You got this.
Stephanie Taylor just because you're a girl doesn't mean it'll be any less difficult for you. I'm sure I will have a lot of issues when I first give it a try, but like they say practice makes perfect!
Thank you!
If you want something simple and strong use a Surgeon's loop.
You need to figure out a way to have the line go in from the front of the hook and not the back. It might make only a 10% difference in hook ups but there is difference. Circle hooks work best when the goes in from the front.
+Lee Boy I honestly have not had any issues with the way I have it setup. No need to recreate the wheel if it's not broken.
Nice rig. I use those very knots as well. People tell me when they see it. Look at that cluster fuck. Then I'm pulling up two snappers at a time. Before you know it there like show me how u did that again.. off shore fishing in south Louisiana!!!!!!! Home sweet home. Now I also use a double rigger with two snell knots instead of those knots as well. I would like to see if u can figure it out. It's kinda though. I needs to be one continuous line. No splice ons. Let see what u got.
Hey man, who cares what they think if it works. You'd be surprised how the gawker often times turns to follow.
now i know .. how to do simpler loop ..
Glad to help
There's nothing more simpler than a Surgeon's loop.
its true it's all about money I am a charter captn out of NSB fl on the east coast and only the commercial guys with a$ 30,000.00 doller reef permet can keep them we don't even have a min season it's all about taxes on the reef permits and export of the fish it's BS.....I catch on a ave on a four hour off shore trip in the summer months 5-15 big reds I mean like 15 to 25 lbs we some times haft to move spots because you can't get past them and it starts 5 miles off and can go all the way out to 50 miles it's crazy. open red snapper season PLEASE.......
I know, it stinks for us recreational guys. All we can do is keep going to the meetings and voicing our opinions. They have so called scientist with PhD's that have never been on the water making judgement calls because they are probably tied into the monetary conspiracy ring in some way or another.
Idk but this was impossible to do with a clear line it just wouldn't twist
The color shouldn't matter, were you able to get a good grip on the line?
Joshua Taylor I was using a 20 pound line and wasn't able to get a good grip but managed to pull it off and made them not as good as yours tho
You make a nice knot and then you thread it into the hook from the wrong direction. Tension will pull the hook point out not drive it home.
Joey clark I've used this rig both ways, I've never seen a definitive difference in the hookup ratio and I guess until I do or someone does a thorough study, I would recommend not sweating the small stuff.
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