Even though I have RTX 3080, I still care and repair my GTX 950 and my oldest which is GT210, both of them working and I still replace parts when aging
Props for highlighting that the heatgun "fix" doesn't reflow the BGA solder balls, plus the gun is a bit safer than an oven since the entire PCB with caps/chokes/phases isn't getting nuked as well.
Exactly, he mentioned the oven method in the last video and I commented the method I personally use with the heat gun, kapton tape, and foil. I see here he didn't protect anything with the tape and foil as well as not using a thermometer to manage and control the heat on the die itself.... oh well.
@@x7slim8x Its a quick and dirty fix on a broken 2 pound graphics card. What did you expect? He might actually lose money using kapton tape and foil and whatnot.
I had an R7 250x wich has about the same performance and vram as this 460, Fallout 4 1080p medium ran at about 30 fps with several framedrops (back then it didn't bother me)
I'd say "It's going to die, eventually" but damn, a brand new video card could croak in that same timeframe. I'd say you got your fifteen euros out of it!
this was my first gaming card in my own build. saved up a full year for the build. a i5 750 (from my dad), gtx 460, 12GB of ddr3 memory. I was a beast back then. that card still hold some good memories. also mined some BTC LTC with this card so at current rates actually payed the card back a few times.
@@FRehan-pe8ww is transported it all to a Uatx board and place it in a small case. use it as a streaming device for my main pc in the office. too bad the gtx 460 draws so much power and put out some heat. would have been amazing.
@Danny at current rates? Lets say enough to pay back my student loans and had a nice student life with not much worries. Not hundreds of thousands of euros but enough. More than i could have hoped for as a 16 year old dumbass. xD
@@RandomGaminginHD it's currently running the video output on my mach 3 system, so not exactly a hard life anymore, but it's going and it's going strong.
I've yet to see a disclaimer from companies that you should not do this. Though of course they won't support this method of prolonging their death since it's not a real fix
@@resneptacle this done more or less with older card without warranty, so it doesn't realy need one but if people start doing this on modern card it will appear there
Same here, palit gtx 460, served well for about 3 years until artifacts happened. Then got a 470, worked few months, artifacts again. Then got a 560 ti - worked for year or two, then artifacts - at that time though I knew the heatgun fix, so after reanimating it twice with good results, it worked excellent for 3 more years until I replaced it with something a bit more modern. Overall I think the thermi... fermi architecture cards had some deeper problems.
@@acid3129 Sapphire has the best rx500 cards. You're probably doing something wrong like a bad hsf mount or bad paste or a dying fan or dirty hsf. My single-fan sapphire rx570 itx dont even go above 60-70C. Alternatively, just set a steeper fan curve with 100% at 60-70C. You can also put a power of -20 and oc only the memory to effective 8000Mhz (2000mhz base) or higher if you can push it.
@@ayuchanayuko it was a year old and hitting 90c until i stripped it and reapplied paste and thermal pads but it was still getting high 70s in a very open mesh case with 2 200mm front intake fans plus mounted on a vertical gou mount so it had better airflow over the heatsink. my rtx 2060 barely goes above mid-60s
This is literally the exact same card I'm currently watching this video on. Literally the exact same model. Thanks for this cool look inside. My one still performs really well (EDIT: and without artifacts), as I mostly play older games, but some newer games like Rocket Leauge can still be played very smoothly at higher settings. It even shows me what kinds of games I can STILL run on this thing that I haven't played yet. Kudos to you dude.
It is actually the most consistent way to apply thermal paste. There is no such thing as too much thermal paste (this has been proven time and time again), but too little can be very bad.
I am so glad to finally see someone using the heatgun method instead of just throwing these things in the oven. Not only does it last longer (I've had one last two years at this point), but it doesn't fry all the components on the board over time so (if you really wanted) you can do it multiple times. Squeeze a little bit of no-clean flux in that little crack between the die and the pcb, and wrap all the other components in tinfoil as a shield, and you've got much longer fixes in general
Props for linking to Mr. Rossmann he's a bit brash at times but he truly knows component level repair and the ins and outs of solder joint failures. Good guy, and I've learned a lot from him.
For a more permanent fix, reflow the gpu with Flux and 180C-220C of heat. Heatguns alone to reflow may just prolong the life of the gpu but the solder balls are still in bad condition due to constant heat cycles resulting in eventual cold solders. Some Flux should spitshine them back to as close to stock as possible without a reball.
Once i had successfully reanimated a 560ti and it lasts over 3 Months till it had the same issue again. I tried it several times after with different cards but it works never again, i figured out as soon as this driver-relatet crashes happens there was no hope... Your video though give me hope and so I will continue my diy/repairing/low budgeting journey, which is driven and supported by your videos more than anything else. Thank you this way and continue blasting out the great content!
One of my GTS450 2Gb DDR3 crashed as soon as I install drivers. So I did the same with a normal hairdryer just heated the whole pcb for atleast 10-15mins. To my surprise it came back to life. And it is still running as good as new even 2 years after receiving it.
Just wanted to watch in full before I commented. Congrats on the successful revival! About the only other thing I might have suggested, was seeing if you could de-lid the IHS. I almost did this successfully, until impatience had me pry just enough to make it nick the bare die underneath, which summarily killed it. On the flip side, I was able to at least re-use the cooler on a 960 and get some drastically better temps than the blower model had. I bring it up because, if the thermal paste was that bad upon removing the heatsink, I can only imagine how bad the stuff between the die and IHS would have been. It would absolutely require adjusting the cooler with additional mounting pressure, likely, but removing the IHS and mounting it directly to the die should improve thermal efficiency drastically.
@@gunaf28 still works, not had an issue with it since but I did underclock it, only slightly just enough to keep it stable. The rig is mostly used by my partner now as she doesn’t game all to much but it’s still going
Good job on grabbing Louis's video to give folk good information on what goes on here. Its cool to see you try it knowing that its only a temporary fix.
I'm still using GTX 460 in 2020, and it performs really well for all the games I played including GTA V, I really apreciate the video, it lets me know the maximum potential of this GPU, and also made me happy for owning this
I actually fixed a Palit GTX 460 2GB that looks identical to yours a couple months back, as well as a GTX 760 about a year ago. Both cards work perfectly to this day! I can't believe how effective this strange method really is. I love your videos by the way, keep up the good work!
Yep, my previous GPU, a R9-280X (so basically a 7970) lasted another 18 months by baking it. I was really surprised as it failed with a black screen. No artifacts, just a black screen, not even the BIOS would show.
This guy is a proper youtuber. He makes content which he enjoys and is honest with people. He says in his outro " like the video if you enjoyed and dislike it if you didn't" What a guy 👍👍👍
Baked my first worthwhile gpu I ever owned(Radeon hd 7850 2gb afterburner edition) in an oven after it started green artifacting. The cars has seen moderate use for 4 years since then and I'm crossing my fingers and hopping it'll just keep working.
I baked my R9 270X in the oven four times since May 2019, but it is still working. Once it worked for 8 months, but then once it worked only a couple of days.
I did this trick to a dead GTX 280 back in 2013, but I went above the melting point of the lead-free solder. The card had many years of use after it and it actually it still works perfectly! That card was a beast back then.
Bryan does warranty the parts he sells, so he stands by it. Which is more than a random eBay seller or local listings ad would. Personally, I don’t think it’s very honest, but if you have a guarantee, at least you have something to fall back on.
In my experience "reflows" like this last about 6 months on bad chips, but I have had an R9 280X that lasted a solid 1.5 years until retired. Selling them is bad except you give a 3 year warranty which I think even Bryan won't. Selling them with just one year of warranty is bad (except if you explicitly say it is a reflowed GPU and might not work very long)
There is also the ethical problem of baking in inconvenience when you can deliver otherwise. Even with the warranty, you're selling in bad faith if you're not informing the customer that the GPU will fail imminently more often than not. Bryan in particular has spoken out about shady PC resellers taking customers for a ride and I think selling oven GPUs just adds to the perception, even if he's shaving off a few bucks.
@@crispianchealuks2024 I haven't watched his content lately, but "Are you selling these GPUs to customers?" and "Are you telling your customers the GPUs are baked?" were commonly asked questions on the relevant videos and I don't recall him addressing either.
My GTX 780 also died last year. i did this to it which i found in a youtube comment section 1. Remove all the stuff, that can be removed, from the card. 2. Balance the card on small screws, which are screwed gently into the holes in the PCB. 3. Heat up the oven to 210-220 degrees Celsius (~425 degrees Fahrenheit). 4. Put the card into the oven on a piece of tinfoil (doesn't matter which side is up), for 12 minutes. DO NOT TAKE THE CARD OUT YET! 5. Turn the oven off and GENTLY open the oven door, to let the card cool down, while it's still inside the oven, for 30 minutes. 6. Take the card out and reassemble. its been working for over a year now. runs perfectly fine.
Not faulty, they were legit like that. I had a GTX 560 Ti from Palit that I'm pretty sure used this exacty same PCB with no VRM cooling. The card crashed if you pushed it too much, terrible terrible design and I'm never buying Palit/Gainward ever again. A reference design would have been a million times better.
@@sgcs my 560 Ti came without VRM heatsink as well. It was a cost-saving measure otherwise it would have only been 460s. Review 460s had them IIRC but consumers got screwed.
So might it be that he just reanimated cooked capacitors (or, even if unlikely, MOSFETs)? Capacitors often increase in capacity shortly when getting warmed up, thats how I test bad caps in PSUs for example
I baked an HD 5670 in the oven back in 2012 and it still works to this day haha. I also baked an 8800 GTS 640MB 5-6 times after it would start artifacting within 1 week to 1 month after the prior fix. Eventually, I used it as a test bed to learn how to reball a GPU, and fixed it permanently with lead solder.
Can we keep seeing more videos of this card in future videos to see how long it can last? I think it would be interesting since getting new GPUS these days are almost impossible.
As a student/assistant tech at my school I did once bake an HP LaserJet P2015dn formatter board. Went to market in 2007, HP hadn't tested thermals with lead-free solder for that model and they failed fairly quickly. The foods teacher was perplexed as was the shop teacher when I told him what fixed his printer. For reviving a $500 printer, it was a cheap fix for a school and makes for a tech adventure story.
I have done this with two cards in the past, a 660gtx and a 780ti. Did nothing for the 660 but the 780ti was revived and worked for another year before permanently dying. As said in the video it is worth trying, but don't expect it to always work and know it is only a temporary fix where milage may vary.
what about trying to "misuse" the way of fixing you have shown in the episode, and blow the card long enough that something breaks down? Maybe on one of the "confirmed dead, impossible to revieve" cards from the bunch?
I remember having to do this with the oven method on my old Radeon 7950 and that taught me that reflowing the solder can actually still be a permanent fix if you get lucky as its still working for the guy I sold it to for a cheap a few years back.
I'm using a 460 and... personally i think it's still pretty amazing. I've been using this since years and didn't have even one problem with it. I'm playing games on 1080p and getting 28-30 fps is still playable honestly. Of course u won't play cyberpunk on this, but u can play gta 5 on 1080p with high settings with enough ram and atleast a i7 3770k.
I revived my radeon hd 7770 1gb with the same method you did 8 months ago But my card problem was far worse than yours it wasn't displaying anything on the monitor but the fans were spinning After reviving it with heat it still runs to this day no problems at all and everything runs fine 8 months for me and im happy with it
My type of video haha , I fixed a EVGA GTX 460 1GB 2 years ago ,It ran fine for 6 months ,then went bad, then re heated it on my fireplace lol ,ran fine on a friend's computer for about 6 months ,died again lol ,now another friend needs a shit card for a bit of light gaming and we'll re heat it again and see if it works. I also fixed a Gigabyte HD7950 which has been working fine for over a year as well as a Gigabyte HD7970 Ghz Edition ,which I'm currently using since March 2020. Out of about 9 GPUs I've been able to revive 4 and have clear indications of which GPUs might work after a bit of heat is applied. 1)on screen Artifacts 2)no display but pc boots and keyboard numlock lights on. These are the only 2 scenarios this will work,also some times vram chips cause problem and by heating them it might fix it.
I remember doing a similar thing to my Xbox 360 back in 2014. It had the red ring of death and I saw some guy on UA-cam put some skewer sticks into the fans and let it overheat for 10 minutes. After letting it cool down and plugging it back in it worked. I was amazed at how that would fix it. It still works to this day.
Don't know if you actually read our comments about listening to LR or it was just planned all along lmao. Nevertheless I'm happy to hear you explain what is happening when one bakes a card :)
The numbers you were getting with this card are almost too much for me to believe, even at 720p! I ran the 768MB version of this card (I still have it) for quite some time and don't remember this kind of performance! I eventually ended up running TWO of them in SLI for a bit before picking up a GTX 670. I'd love to exchange numbers with you to compare the 1GB vs. 768MB. I have tried to fix a GPU in the past using the oven method. An old AMD (ATI?) Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB I found at an eWaste facility. I wasn't really supposed to take it but I couldn't let it go to waste. It's a coaster now, but I might try to revive it again with a heat gun since your method seemed to work pretty well.
Nice revival and teardown :) If you can't sell it on, for obvious reasons, then I'd either just whack it in a PC that is being sold on, or keep it as a test GPU for future videos/projects. In fact, I'd happily buy it to go into a 2nd generation Core i3 based tower PC which currently relies on whatever version of Intel HD Graphics it has. I'm sure that any decent GPU (bar a display adapter) will run better than Intel HD Graphics.
If you use enough time, *or enough heat,* you actually can re-melt the BGA connection underneath. I would recommend time over heat, however, as going in "blastin'" is going to burn the PCB more than anything. The important part is that you get it to be tempurature soaked at around 180-270*C, depending on the solder used, and hole it like that for a while to ensure it gets uniformly re-melted. Hot air stations are what attach these components on the BGA socket to start with, and a heat gun is basically a self-contained hot air station, though it's questionable if one has the same power. Also! can't forget the importance of flux for both solder and tempurature flow, if you have some it's worth trying to get it to seep in under the chip the best you can.
I actually took a heat gun to a 780ti and it ran pretty well for about 2 years. I wouldn’t really recommend it for a primary machine. I had all sorts of weird issues, such as the video out would stop after coming out of sleep mode. But for a side machine that you test stuff on, it was serviceable.
You've not lost your mind, I've used flux on motherboard socket (Which previous owner bought it and straightnen it with pincet) with heat gun and fixed it, it works well for over a year. You should've covered caps with aluminium foil.
Done this to my old HD 7950 back in mid 2016, gave the card to my cousin and surprisingly it still works.. Paired with a an i7 3770k he has zero problems on fortnite, rainbow six seige and BF4 👍 Pretty sure I even oc'd the card too Told him. About the RX 580 and other cheap cards to upgrade too but he's just not interested right now.
i gave an EVGA 460 to my bro in law to just play Dayz and Fallout 3. This was about 3 years ago and he's happy. Surprising what old kit can do with good optimized games.
I did this with a HD7950 a few years ago. Only difference was I used an IR thermometer and masked off everything except the GPU with foil. Brought it right back to life and lasted a good 5+ months until I finally bought a new GPU. I think it would have lasted quite a big longer still! I was really surprised.
Kinda reminds me of a recent purchase, a gtx 740 4gb GDDR5. The seller said it worked but it didn't. I realized that done calls had been ripped off and a memory chip had been crushed. I had a scrap rx550 that I salvaged the caps and RAM chip from and now it works 😁
I bought an artifacting gtx 780 ti for 30$ and reanimated it with a heat gun but it seemed to last only a month.After flashing a modded bios to disable boost it lasted from september 21st till yesterday when it failed again.Since the heat gun wasnt mine i just flipped the card and used a lighter for 1-2 min to fix it again xD .Your explanation is very good.There are even tinyer balls that connect the gpu die to the substrate and due to difference in thermal expansion of the materials these ball can move out of place.If you want to prolong the life of such a defective card you can use msi afterburner to lower clocks and increase fan speed to lower the temperature delta between idle and full load because thats what kills them again.Perhaps you can do a long term test
Hello, I hope you're having a wonderful day. I have a question regarding Rx 4xx and 5xx cards. I've bought RX 470 STRIX ROG back in 2018 for a really low price. Right now that price doubled and I can sell it with a good profit. The question is: Do you think they'll go down in price anytime soon? I'd be very happy with this lil profit I'll make and I don't really play games that much other than MTA:SA or CSGO. Thanks!
Couple of years ago i revived old evga gtx 580 and she ran pretty well afther the oven method...must say it was like magic to me when i saw a dead gpu work fine again
I did the oven trick to a faulty xfx 7950 3gb ghost edition that I bought on Craigslist almost 5 years ago now. The card runs rather hot even with new paste, but needs new thermal pads, has a noisy fan, but it still works like a champ to this day
I got an XFX 8800GTX in a quad core build with a 680i motherboard that visits the toaster oven every eight or so months when it's getting use. We also run the fans on jet engine mode to hopefully extend the time between.
I revived a Palit 6600GT card back in the day as it died on me when it was only 4-5 years old, and it has served me well since *knock on wood*. I used the oven tactic and that was kind of a mistake, because all the electrolytic capacitors bulged and I had to replace them. Nevertheless, after that I used the card a couple of years for random gaming and now I think it's nearly ten years in my HTPC rig playing FullHD material, still going strong.
I had this same card, except it was 2GB version. It was very good GPU, however after 7 years and one bearing replacement, it strated showing checkboard on the screen. I switched it for 750Ti and put 460 in the oven. Suprisingly, it worked right away. I have put it in the box and it sitting there until this day.
card: *let me already die please*
Back to the ventilator!
Random HD gaming: NO NOT TODAY
Even though I have RTX 3080, I still care and repair my GTX 950 and my oldest which is GT210, both of them working and I still replace parts when aging
You don't die, your die will serve me more!!!
Look at all that unneeded thernal paste lol
Props for highlighting that the heatgun "fix" doesn't reflow the BGA solder balls, plus the gun is a bit safer than an oven since the entire PCB with caps/chokes/phases isn't getting nuked as well.
Exactly, he mentioned the oven method in the last video and I commented the method I personally use with the heat gun, kapton tape, and foil. I see here he didn't protect anything with the tape and foil as well as not using a thermometer to manage and control the heat on the die itself.... oh well.
@@x7slim8x Its a quick and dirty fix on a broken 2 pound graphics card. What did you expect? He might actually lose money using kapton tape and foil and whatnot.
@@x7slim8x what is the target temp for the die? And how do you monitor it?
@@matthewbennett It's hard to be exact, but you could use an infra-red thermometer to get a proper reading though.
if it isn't reflowing what is it doing ? also glad he didn't use an actual oven!
The fact that this card even runs fallout 4 is a feat
I had an R7 250x wich has about the same performance and vram as this 460, Fallout 4 1080p medium ran at about 30 fps with several framedrops (back then it didn't bother me)
yeah and with 1 gig of vram
Better than PS4!
lol
@@Sam-K well...
Looks like a nice card! Isn't powerful as today's offerings (obviously), but atleast it has some power!
For halo 1 maybe..
@@iamcornholio3783 nope it can prob handle gta 5,minecraft, csgo, other games with the 336 cuda cores
@@whydoiexist3896 so.. Halo 2 then?
@@iamcornholio3783 lol 😆
@@iamcornholio3783 maybe halo 4 lmao
I bought oven baked gtx 570 in 2015 for 15€, still runs fine and I haven't had any issues
I'd say "It's going to die, eventually" but damn, a brand new video card could croak in that same timeframe. I'd say you got your fifteen euros out of it!
@@thedungeondelver Several times over!
"oven baked" makes it sound so delecious.
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honestly, thats damn impressive. GG man. GG.
_Nvidia would like to know your location_
Are u serious dude? This sounds too good to be true...
this was my first gaming card in my own build. saved up a full year for the build. a i5 750 (from my dad), gtx 460, 12GB of ddr3 memory. I was a beast back then. that card still hold some good memories. also mined some BTC LTC with this card so at current rates actually payed the card back a few times.
You could still use it as a 720p eSports pc , csgo , rocket league,fortnite will still run on it fine
@@FRehan-pe8ww is transported it all to a Uatx board and place it in a small case. use it as a streaming device for my main pc in the office. too bad the gtx 460 draws so much power and put out some heat. would have been amazing.
also hooked up a 2 tb hdd so its also kind of a nas XD
@Penetrator very important LOL
@Danny at current rates? Lets say enough to pay back my student loans and had a nice student life with not much worries. Not hundreds of thousands of euros but enough. More than i could have hoped for as a 16 year old dumbass. xD
When the dying gtx 460 is more powerful than my intel hd 3000
And here's me thinking my RX570 sucks...you have my sympathies.
@@darktimes9489 rx570 is good for lower settings 1080p or 1440P 45+FPS
My 1650 does the same in terms of FPS
@@darktimes9489 what graphics card do you have?
Me with Intel Baytrail: ...
@@arch455 that stiill exists?
I had a 9800GT I did this to years ago, it still works to this day
that's great news :)
@@RandomGaminginHD it's currently running the video output on my mach 3 system, so not exactly a hard life anymore, but it's going and it's going strong.
The fact that he mentioned Louis Rossman made me smile a little bit.
Same!
who dat
@@rahul-qm9fi a honest dude who fixes macbooks and gives important life advices
Tech companies: don't do anything to ur card if it's broken just buy a new one lol
Tech youtubers: *HEAT GUN*
I've yet to see a disclaimer from companies that you should not do this. Though of course they won't support this method of prolonging their death since it's not a real fix
@@resneptacle this done more or less with older card without warranty, so it doesn't realy need one but if people start doing this on modern card it will appear there
where moni
Heat Gun go brrrr....!!!!
And microwave
Funny how I have the exact same model of GTX 460 with the exact same issue lol
Same here, palit gtx 460, served well for about 3 years until artifacts happened. Then got a 470, worked few months, artifacts again. Then got a 560 ti - worked for year or two, then artifacts - at that time though I knew the heatgun fix, so after reanimating it twice with good results, it worked excellent for 3 more years until I replaced it with something a bit more modern.
Overall I think the thermi... fermi architecture cards had some deeper problems.
they just run so hot haha, cook themselves to death
@@RandomGaminginHD like my RX 580 8gb sapphire pulse it run so hot it fired itself
@@acid3129 Sapphire has the best rx500 cards. You're probably doing something wrong like a bad hsf mount or bad paste or a dying fan or dirty hsf.
My single-fan sapphire rx570 itx dont even go above 60-70C.
Alternatively, just set a steeper fan curve with 100% at 60-70C. You can also put a power of -20 and oc only the memory to effective 8000Mhz (2000mhz base) or higher if you can push it.
@@ayuchanayuko it was a year old and hitting 90c until i stripped it and reapplied paste and thermal pads but it was still getting high 70s in a very open mesh case with 2 200mm front intake fans plus mounted on a vertical gou mount so it had better airflow over the heatsink. my rtx 2060 barely goes above mid-60s
This is literally the exact same card I'm currently watching this video on. Literally the exact same model. Thanks for this cool look inside. My one still performs really well (EDIT: and without artifacts), as I mostly play older games, but some newer games like Rocket Leauge can still be played very smoothly at higher settings. It even shows me what kinds of games I can STILL run on this thing that I haven't played yet. Kudos to you dude.
'Kingdom Come' clip is like a day out in Glasgow.
I had that problem with my old GTX 285 from "club 3D". Baked it and it worked for another 4 years. You can be pretty lucky with this method.
Ah a man of culture, using the verge's "jackson pollock" method of applying thermal paste
It is actually the most consistent way to apply thermal paste. There is no such thing as too much thermal paste (this has been proven time and time again), but too little can be very bad.
the verge just didn't spread it properly so it ended up looking like bird shit
@@sujimayne there is such thing if you have a conductive paste, you can short your hardware, especially on GPUs that have their dies exposed.
I am so glad to finally see someone using the heatgun method instead of just throwing these things in the oven. Not only does it last longer (I've had one last two years at this point), but it doesn't fry all the components on the board over time so (if you really wanted) you can do it multiple times.
Squeeze a little bit of no-clean flux in that little crack between the die and the pcb, and wrap all the other components in tinfoil as a shield, and you've got much longer fixes in general
This is a great series. Really fun to watch. I'm excited to see the rest of these cards.
Props for linking to Mr. Rossmann he's a bit brash at times but he truly knows component level repair and the ins and outs of solder joint failures. Good guy, and I've learned a lot from him.
For a more permanent fix, reflow the gpu with Flux and 180C-220C of heat.
Heatguns alone to reflow may just prolong the life of the gpu but the solder balls are still in bad condition due to constant heat cycles resulting in eventual cold solders. Some Flux should spitshine them back to as close to stock as possible without a reball.
Once i had successfully reanimated a 560ti and it lasts over 3 Months till it had the same issue again. I tried it several times after with different cards but it works never again, i figured out as soon as this driver-relatet crashes happens there was no hope... Your video though give me hope and so I will continue my diy/repairing/low budgeting journey, which is driven and supported by your videos more than anything else. Thank you this way and continue blasting out the great content!
I had one years ago, solid performer and still alive.
One of my GTS450 2Gb DDR3 crashed as soon as I install drivers.
So I did the same with a normal hairdryer just heated the whole pcb for atleast 10-15mins.
To my surprise it came back to life.
And it is still running as good as new even 2 years after receiving it.
RGinHD: **Tries to prolong the eventual death of the card**
Card: "You won't let me live, you won't let me die."
Lol very accurate statement :L
Just wanted to watch in full before I commented. Congrats on the successful revival!
About the only other thing I might have suggested, was seeing if you could de-lid the IHS. I almost did this successfully, until impatience had me pry just enough to make it nick the bare die underneath, which summarily killed it. On the flip side, I was able to at least re-use the cooler on a 960 and get some drastically better temps than the blower model had. I bring it up because, if the thermal paste was that bad upon removing the heatsink, I can only imagine how bad the stuff between the die and IHS would have been. It would absolutely require adjusting the cooler with additional mounting pressure, likely, but removing the IHS and mounting it directly to the die should improve thermal efficiency drastically.
I did exactly this on an old 750 about a year ago, its still in my second rig absolutely fine. I fear the end is coming each time I use it though lol
If you want to prolong it's life I suggest a small undervolt/underclock, it might be usable for years to come this way.
@@cremvursti Yeah good shout, will do that
@@Natei how's it going mate
@@gunaf28 still works, not had an issue with it since but I did underclock it, only slightly just enough to keep it stable. The rig is mostly used by my partner now as she doesn’t game all to much but it’s still going
@@Natei man, that is some impressive shit
Good job on grabbing Louis's video to give folk good information on what goes on here. Its cool to see you try it knowing that its only a temporary fix.
I used a GTS 450 for ages. Loved it
Bruh I still use it
@@rashidkhan8408 Same
I'm still using GTX 460 in 2020, and it performs really well for all the games I played including GTA V, I really apreciate the video, it lets me know the maximum potential of this GPU, and also made me happy for owning this
Louis Rossmann, I'll give kudos to you, sir.
I actually fixed a Palit GTX 460 2GB that looks identical to yours a couple months back, as well as a GTX 760 about a year ago. Both cards work perfectly to this day! I can't believe how effective this strange method really is. I love your videos by the way, keep up the good work!
watcing this on gtx 460 :D
i did this to a hd 7970 and it still works and i did it 1 year ago it is definitly worth trying in my opinion
Yep, my previous GPU, a R9-280X (so basically a 7970) lasted another 18 months by baking it.
I was really surprised as it failed with a black screen. No artifacts, just a black screen, not even the BIOS would show.
I actually """"fixed"""" a gtx 480 this way, that was over 6 months ago and its still working
This guy is a proper youtuber. He makes content which he enjoys and is honest with people. He says in his outro " like the video if you enjoyed and dislike it if you didn't" What a guy 👍👍👍
Think you still have resolution scaling enabled on GTA V ( Left on from a previous benchmark video )
It did look bad for 720p.
@@McBenjiBoo and the 120+ FPS is a bit suspicious
ah maybe, I did wonder why the fps was so high. It usually defaults to off whenever I start it up with a new card though so that's weird
@@RandomGaminginHD Aye thanks for the Reply 😀
You and your channel inspired me to create mine 👍🏽👍🏽
Baked my first worthwhile gpu I ever owned(Radeon hd 7850 2gb afterburner edition) in an oven after it started green artifacting. The cars has seen moderate use for 4 years since then and I'm crossing my fingers and hopping it'll just keep working.
I’ve baked my old FE 780 and it’s still running after almost 2 years
I've used Heat gun method on my GTX 460, it's been year and a half since, and is still working perfectly!
Had the same issue with my GTS 450, with the exact same design will try this heat gun method to see if it would still live WISH ME LUCK!!!
Ye good luck
good luck
Gl gl
it would probably die the next day
*Update
The bastard worked surprisingly well
Hoping to see it will last for a couple of weeks or so :D
Thanks guys!
I baked my R9 270X in the oven four times since May 2019, but it is still working. Once it worked for 8 months, but then once it worked only a couple of days.
Great vid man appreciate it...
I did this trick to a dead GTX 280 back in 2013, but I went above the melting point of the lead-free solder. The card had many years of use after it and it actually it still works perfectly! That card was a beast back then.
I'm pretty sure bryan from Tech Yes City has, and he treats those revived gpu as ok to use for another 5 years.
Bryan does warranty the parts he sells, so he stands by it. Which is more than a random eBay seller or local listings ad would. Personally, I don’t think it’s very honest, but if you have a guarantee, at least you have something to fall back on.
In my experience "reflows" like this last about 6 months on bad chips, but I have had an R9 280X that lasted a solid 1.5 years until retired.
Selling them is bad except you give a 3 year warranty which I think even Bryan won't.
Selling them with just one year of warranty is bad (except if you explicitly say it is a reflowed GPU and might not work very long)
There is also the ethical problem of baking in inconvenience when you can deliver otherwise. Even with the warranty, you're selling in bad faith if you're not informing the customer that the GPU will fail imminently more often than not. Bryan in particular has spoken out about shady PC resellers taking customers for a ride and I think selling oven GPUs just adds to the perception, even if he's shaving off a few bucks.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 I'm sure he does tell his customers if the gpu are baked, I mean the videos are on his channel.
@@crispianchealuks2024 I haven't watched his content lately, but "Are you selling these GPUs to customers?" and "Are you telling your customers the GPUs are baked?" were commonly asked questions on the relevant videos and I don't recall him addressing either.
Great video! I am actually impressed that you revived a card, as I have had friends that have unsuccessfully done so.
6:43 holy fuck, that was pretty cool!
My GTX 780 also died last year. i did this to it which i found in a youtube comment section
1. Remove all the stuff, that can be removed, from the card.
2. Balance the card on small screws, which are screwed gently into the holes in the PCB.
3. Heat up the oven to 210-220 degrees Celsius (~425 degrees Fahrenheit).
4. Put the card into the oven on a piece of tinfoil (doesn't matter which side is up), for 12 minutes. DO NOT TAKE THE CARD OUT YET!
5. Turn the oven off and GENTLY open the oven door, to let the card cool down, while it's still inside the oven, for 30 minutes.
6. Take the card out and reassemble.
its been working for over a year now. runs perfectly fine.
Offcourse you know Louis Rosman. Every of 100 youtubers i sub to knows eatch other somehow/someway.
I love your concrete pad. So many colors. Its like a box of crayons exploded and embedded into it. Very Cool.
Oh darn I'm early
Last time I was this early
The pc market was still affordable
:'(
Dude, you keep me alive. Keep it up! Just wanted to say i really like you.
Ahh yes, one of the faulty 460 Sonic cards with a missing vrm heatsink. Wonder why that failed.
Not faulty, they were legit like that. I had a GTX 560 Ti from Palit that I'm pretty sure used this exacty same PCB with no VRM cooling. The card crashed if you pushed it too much, terrible terrible design and I'm never buying Palit/Gainward ever again. A reference design would have been a million times better.
@@NOXXism nah the issue was some 460s shipped without the VRM heatsink for some reason, others were fine
@@sgcs my 560 Ti came without VRM heatsink as well. It was a cost-saving measure otherwise it would have only been 460s. Review 460s had them IIRC but consumers got screwed.
So might it be that he just reanimated cooked capacitors (or, even if unlikely, MOSFETs)?
Capacitors often increase in capacity shortly when getting warmed up, thats how I test bad caps in PSUs for example
@@TheRailroad99 i doubt that given he was pointing at the chip itself.. at least in the video (cuz like in an oven entire pcb gets cooked)
I baked an HD 5670 in the oven back in 2012 and it still works to this day haha. I also baked an 8800 GTS 640MB 5-6 times after it would start artifacting within 1 week to 1 month after the prior fix. Eventually, I used it as a test bed to learn how to reball a GPU, and fixed it permanently with lead solder.
Can we keep seeing more videos of this card in future videos to see how long it can last? I think it would be interesting since getting new GPUS these days are almost impossible.
yeah all the cards I "fix" I'll revisit every so often to see how they hold up :)
@@RandomGaminginHD awesome 👍
Respect +1 for linking louis' video
i put a 120mm 225v fan on my brand new R7 240 when it was reaching 60 celsius
and you let this dead old Castrol get to 80 celsius
@Unknown Nomad also called "furnace" 🤣
Efficient space heater
I hope Louise sees this. You examined it wondeeful in my opinion
Ah sh😬t, here we go again! someone call Louis Rossmann 🙄😂😂😂
😂
Honestly love it! Keeping this alive even for a bit is awesome! Like a living Museum!
I baked my gtx460 3 years ago and one of its capacitor fell off. I put the capacitor back and it still working 3 years later
Edit: it finally died :(
@@aweigh1010 wot
@@aweigh1010 pog
As a student/assistant tech at my school I did once bake an HP LaserJet P2015dn formatter board. Went to market in 2007, HP hadn't tested thermals with lead-free solder for that model and they failed fairly quickly. The foods teacher was perplexed as was the shop teacher when I told him what fixed his printer. For reviving a $500 printer, it was a cheap fix for a school and makes for a tech adventure story.
Who else cried a little when he missed the last bit of old paste on the card?
It hurts AF :|
I have done this with two cards in the past, a 660gtx and a 780ti. Did nothing for the 660 but the 780ti was revived and worked for another year before permanently dying. As said in the video it is worth trying, but don't expect it to always work and know it is only a temporary fix where milage may vary.
1:36 "My chosen method of choice"
Reflowed my first gaming laptop (GTX 660m), that was 5 years ago. She still runs strong (and hot mind you). The laptop is an MSI GE60-0nd
what about trying to "misuse" the way of fixing you have shown in the episode, and blow the card long enough that something breaks down? Maybe on one of the "confirmed dead, impossible to revieve" cards from the bunch?
what would be the point
@@Zeitfuchs curiousity :) as i said it could be done to a card already dead, that would get trashed anyway
I have baked my 460 like 6 times and it works every time, had it since 2015 and bought it used.
*I PUT IT INTO THE OVEN*
I remember having to do this with the oven method on my old Radeon 7950 and that taught me that reflowing the solder can actually still be a permanent fix if you get lucky as its still working for the guy I sold it to for a cheap a few years back.
I'm using a 460 and... personally i think it's still pretty amazing. I've been using this since years and didn't have even one problem with it. I'm playing games on 1080p and getting 28-30 fps is still playable honestly. Of course u won't play cyberpunk on this, but u can play gta 5 on 1080p with high settings with enough ram and atleast a i7 3770k.
man I really love your videos, they make my afternoon happy
I revived my radeon hd 7770 1gb with the same method you did 8 months ago
But my card problem was far worse than yours it wasn't displaying anything on the monitor but the fans were spinning
After reviving it with heat it still runs to this day no problems at all and everything runs fine
8 months for me and im happy with it
My type of video haha , I fixed a EVGA GTX 460 1GB 2 years ago ,It ran fine for 6 months ,then went bad, then re heated it on my fireplace lol ,ran fine on a friend's computer for about 6 months ,died again lol ,now another friend needs a shit card for a bit of light gaming and we'll re heat it again and see if it works. I also fixed a Gigabyte HD7950 which has been working fine for over a year as well as a Gigabyte HD7970 Ghz Edition ,which I'm currently using since March 2020. Out of about 9 GPUs I've been able to revive 4 and have clear indications of which GPUs might work after a bit of heat is applied.
1)on screen Artifacts
2)no display but pc boots and keyboard numlock lights on.
These are the only 2 scenarios this will work,also some times vram chips cause problem and by heating them it might fix it.
I remember doing a similar thing to my Xbox 360 back in 2014. It had the red ring of death and I saw some guy on UA-cam put some skewer sticks into the fans and let it overheat for 10 minutes. After letting it cool down and plugging it back in it worked. I was amazed at how that would fix it. It still works to this day.
Don't know if you actually read our comments about listening to LR or it was just planned all along lmao. Nevertheless I'm happy to hear you explain what is happening when one bakes a card :)
The numbers you were getting with this card are almost too much for me to believe, even at 720p! I ran the 768MB version of this card (I still have it) for quite some time and don't remember this kind of performance! I eventually ended up running TWO of them in SLI for a bit before picking up a GTX 670. I'd love to exchange numbers with you to compare the 1GB vs. 768MB.
I have tried to fix a GPU in the past using the oven method. An old AMD (ATI?) Radeon HD 3870 X2 1GB I found at an eWaste facility. I wasn't really supposed to take it but I couldn't let it go to waste. It's a coaster now, but I might try to revive it again with a heat gun since your method seemed to work pretty well.
Nice video mate. I revived my ati radeon hd 2600 pro from my iMac 2008. It survived until today (more than 2 Years).
Nice revival and teardown :) If you can't sell it on, for obvious reasons, then I'd either just whack it in a PC that is being sold on, or keep it as a test GPU for future videos/projects.
In fact, I'd happily buy it to go into a 2nd generation Core i3 based tower PC which currently relies on whatever version of Intel HD Graphics it has. I'm sure that any decent GPU (bar a display adapter) will run better than Intel HD Graphics.
If you use enough time, *or enough heat,* you actually can re-melt the BGA connection underneath. I would recommend time over heat, however, as going in "blastin'" is going to burn the PCB more than anything. The important part is that you get it to be tempurature soaked at around 180-270*C, depending on the solder used, and hole it like that for a while to ensure it gets uniformly re-melted. Hot air stations are what attach these components on the BGA socket to start with, and a heat gun is basically a self-contained hot air station, though it's questionable if one has the same power.
Also! can't forget the importance of flux for both solder and tempurature flow, if you have some it's worth trying to get it to seep in under the chip the best you can.
I actually took a heat gun to a 780ti and it ran pretty well for about 2 years. I wouldn’t really recommend it for a primary machine. I had all sorts of weird issues, such as the video out would stop after coming out of sleep mode. But for a side machine that you test stuff on, it was serviceable.
You've not lost your mind, I've used flux on motherboard socket (Which previous owner bought it and straightnen it with pincet) with heat gun and fixed it, it works well for over a year.
You should've covered caps with aluminium foil.
Done this to my old HD 7950 back in mid 2016, gave the card to my cousin and surprisingly it still works.. Paired with a an i7 3770k he has zero problems on fortnite, rainbow six seige and BF4 👍
Pretty sure I even oc'd the card too
Told him. About the RX 580 and other cheap cards to upgrade too but he's just not interested right now.
Baked a r9 270x about 6 times, still works. If it gets too hot (high 70s or 80+) it starts dying again though. So if you bake a card keep it cool :)
6:46 the 460 renders this sick landing way better than i thought!
i gave an EVGA 460 to my bro in law to just play Dayz and Fallout 3. This was about 3 years ago and he's happy. Surprising what old kit can do with good optimized games.
I love watching your videos man.
I did this with a HD7950 a few years ago. Only difference was I used an IR thermometer and masked off everything except the GPU with foil.
Brought it right back to life and lasted a good 5+ months until I finally bought a new GPU. I think it would have lasted quite a big longer still! I was really surprised.
I'm loving this old box of gpu's! Great for making good content!
Kinda reminds me of a recent purchase, a gtx 740 4gb GDDR5. The seller said it worked but it didn't. I realized that done calls had been ripped off and a memory chip had been crushed. I had a scrap rx550 that I salvaged the caps and RAM chip from and now it works 😁
I bought an artifacting gtx 780 ti for 30$ and reanimated it with a heat gun but it seemed to last only a month.After flashing a modded bios to disable boost it lasted from september 21st till yesterday when it failed again.Since the heat gun wasnt mine i just flipped the card and used a lighter for 1-2 min to fix it again xD .Your explanation is very good.There are even tinyer balls that connect the gpu die to the substrate and due to difference in thermal expansion of the materials these ball can move out of place.If you want to prolong the life of such a defective card you can use msi afterburner to lower clocks and increase fan speed to lower the temperature delta between idle and full load because thats what kills them again.Perhaps you can do a long term test
Hello, I hope you're having a wonderful day. I have a question regarding Rx 4xx and 5xx cards. I've bought RX 470 STRIX ROG back in 2018 for a really low price. Right now that price doubled and I can sell it with a good profit. The question is: Do you think they'll go down in price anytime soon? I'd be very happy with this lil profit I'll make and I don't really play games that much other than MTA:SA or CSGO. Thanks!
Couple of years ago i revived old evga gtx 580 and she ran pretty well afther the oven method...must say it was like magic to me when i saw a dead gpu work fine again
I did the oven trick to a faulty xfx 7950 3gb ghost edition that I bought on Craigslist almost 5 years ago now. The card runs rather hot even with new paste, but needs new thermal pads, has a noisy fan, but it still works like a champ to this day
I got an XFX 8800GTX in a quad core build with a 680i motherboard that visits the toaster oven every eight or so months when it's getting use.
We also run the fans on jet engine mode to hopefully extend the time between.
I revived a Palit 6600GT card back in the day as it died on me when it was only 4-5 years old, and it has served me well since *knock on wood*. I used the oven tactic and that was kind of a mistake, because all the electrolytic capacitors bulged and I had to replace them. Nevertheless, after that I used the card a couple of years for random gaming and now I think it's nearly ten years in my HTPC rig playing FullHD material, still going strong.
RGinHD: *mentions Louis Rossmann*
Ah, I see you're a man of culture too.
I bought a card on ebay a while ago not reading the description on ebay so I slapped it in the oven and it worked great for like 2 years
I had this same card, except it was 2GB version. It was very good GPU, however after 7 years and one bearing replacement, it strated showing checkboard on the screen. I switched it for 750Ti and put 460 in the oven. Suprisingly, it worked right away. I have put it in the box and it sitting there until this day.
So basically an edo tensei for graphics card. Thanks for the video!
Looking forward to more videos on the box of cards that you got.
This may or may not be my card and I love that it's being brought back from the dead!
@@jackie-kchest Possibly, as I recall, it was in a box with 24 other cards.