His father called him "big nose" when he was a little boy. I have no doubt this psychological abusive suggestion at such an early age contributed to Michaels dismorphic perception.
Yes, it's so sad. His terrible childhood damaged him for life. For sure it also drove him and those incredible dance routines were only possible because of his insecurities and striving for perfection. It eventually killed him.
I agree. My dad said comments about my nose and I had the bump removed and best move ever. My dad had a terrible big nose himself but it didn't worry him.
I never realised before watching this, that the best plastic surgeon would be the one also having a keen awareness of mental health issues leading some patients to seek surgery. They'd be lucky if they came to you!
@@drgarylinkov As a psychiatrist, I can’t tell you the name mover of consent ltstions done for patients prior to cosmetic procedures. Thanks for the consults.
This is hands down the best and most respectful breakdown of Michael Jackson's surgeries. That Peter Pan observation was the cherry on top. You nailed it Doc!
@@drgarylinkov only he did not. He only spread more rumors without taking into account autopsy report and even mentioning discoid lupus. Frankly in 1995 MJ won the sun in court, after it claimed he had many surgeries.
@@posharay3871 it is not about "agreeing with something" but about facts. And facts say, that the doc is wrong. MJ did have lupus, doctors like dr Strick who overlooked his medical history in 93 as part of prosecutor team, has gone in public saying that all his surgeries were reconstructive to battle lupus (and that is even less surgeries than MJ ever claimed), MJ won on court publications that said that he had too much surgeries, his autopsy report showed he did not have many surgeries (especially not around eyes), his nose changed the most in time of lupus flare up and no doctor would do a cosmetic surgery when patients are constantly taking steroids. Unless you are saying that all court documents, medical records and science is lying....
This video was done so respectfully. Taking a deep dive into his psyche that may have led to his surgery. He had a tough childhood. His father was abusive, and abuse shapes children. Your last theory about why he had surgeries is something I never thought of as a reason-well done. Also, your voice is so soothing. I just started your videos today.
@@NxthingKiof Think about it, if your father and your brothers called you ugly your entire life wouldn't that affect your mental health? Also, he had body dysmorphia.
What a lot of people are unaware of is during the early 80s he was doing a Pepsi commercial he spinned into a lighted torch and it caught his hair and face on fire and had 2 and 3 degree burns on his face.
dr. gary covered this sensitive topic which such respect and care. rather than making him a spectacle, he discusses MJ with dignity. im not even a huge MJ fan, but i appreciate dr. gary’s kind and informed approach.
I think most people would agree that this topics been discussed by UA-camrs to the point that the topics become very UGLY. People need to understand what they’re trying to achieve and how realistic it is. Far too often, patient issues are from unrealistic goals, mental illness, and surgeons are too quick to help enable them for the right price.
I couldn't say it better. I was worried that this would bash him, instead Dr. Gary has been very respectful and just analyzed the surgeries and potential (very sad) reasons. Well done.
Michael’s first surgery in 1979 looked nice and was sufficient! He still looked like himself and was still handsome! Michael wanted great success, and to rub shoulders with the greatest amongst us. However, once he achieved it, he didn’t know how to handle it!
@Mandy Pants. More!!! POC suffer from "Beauty" standards established Globally by Europeans!!! Europeans can't even make own standards!!! However, it has been Actively subconsciously embraced & perpetrate self-hate over centuries (Being Ruled over the Globe via Empires based on Slavery, Indentured servitude, Colonization, Religion & Sexism, Economically) Truth is, people just want to be loved, As Is!!! Over time & Especially, Now, $$$$ makes it possible to avoid Learning to Love self (Color/Ethnic/Body features). Put it this way, If Whites aren't Happy w/their features&color. POC already started in a deficit & Now??? I've done enough healing to know, I a smaller 👃 No, Not with my Pie, face😆! Skin bleaching,🤣,Nah! Hair, embraced my natural curls. Weight, well, LoL... We all have... Mother, Whitney Houston thin & projected I was Ompa*lumpa big & I was shapely (dancer & gymnast),kinda like Betty Boop (Based on woman of African descent,Facts! Learned Way, later 70's kid). I can relate to my European counterparts, however it's difficult for them to step out of their comfort zone & Do the same??? That's what "White Privilege" truly means. I grew up in Upstate NY & I never had a "White" friend ask me if I'll be comfortable/or acknowledge I'll be a Minority at any event, invited. However, I cannot say they didn't question me or other POC if... Why??? Subconsciously, they've learned it's Their Right, but Not to give the same courtesy?? And "We" don't understand, why & Don't get a good answer, if question? But, we subconsciously do, Systemic Racism (Multi layered)!!!! Globally, doesn't matter Race, Color, Religion We POC/Minorities know it will Always be a journey of self-acceptance but it would be nice to have have our counterparts (Europeans) provide/support us the same, as they question.
Really?..I wander what his car payment and his ranch house payments were EVERY MONTH?..HUMM..Did he by a used car or a new one?...He had good Health Ins..?..A real struggle every month?..
@@michaelratliff9449 Dude, traumas don't go away just because u had money later in life. Why don't some people understand that money can't fix everything? Specially if that thing is a trauma that you've been building up since childhood. Btw, you don't understand what it means to be a worldwide famous celebrity like MJ was. I can tell you something. It's not as easy as u think. You fuck up things in your life, everyday, we are always making mistakes. It is a huge fucking responsability to have the whole world looking at you everyday, and you can't disappoint them. You can't disappoint your fans, you can't fuck up like you normally do because everyone is paying attention to even the slightest mistakes u could imagine. People expecting you to act in certain ways, expecting you to not let them down with your next projects, people will be always expecting something from you, people expecting things from you that sometimes not even yourself expect, but there's nothing you can do, not being MJ. He never had a break from fame really, it must have really tiring I imagine, because he's not a shitty artist that let everyone around him make his stuff and compose 100% of his shit. He was always getting involved in his music, and I'm not talking of some indications here and there, I'm talking of him coming up with the lyrics, humming verses he still had to write, beatboxing the rhythm and singing the bass melodies, the background melodies, all that stuff. Taking all that information in account, I'd surely understand why he struggled so much with mental issues and stuff like that. And he wasn't rich when he was a kid, his father made him work really hard (physically) and also beated him and his brothers, so he struggled just as much as you if not even more.
@@michaelratliff9449 You're naive if you think money troubles are the only troubles a person can have. You could be the richest and most famous on earth and be absolutely miserable, doesn't make it any less real.
That very first nose job was masterful, still looked very natural and subtle yet definitely softened its appearance which is obviously what he was craving. So sad he couldn't just stop at that first one before any complications had occurred, but I think you hit the nail on the head with this respectful analysis.
I don’t understand plastic surgeons that keep working on people when it is plain to see the person was needing work on the inside not more on the outside.
He should have stopped before the first. He sang beautifully. He looked beautiful. It’s horrible what he ended up looking like. I’m sure he was advised against it, but it was his body.
I had 2 surgeons in Alberta Canada say no to me for rhinoplasty. They said I didn’t need it (my mom told me she didn’t like my nose when I was 4) and I respect these Drs for not wanting my money. Thank you for caring why people are in your office in the 1st place and not just taking the money and doing surgery. That’s honourable in the highest degree
I think the 5 first surgeries was Michael’s effort to have the ‘perfect’ nose. The last 5 surgeries was Michael trying salvage a failing nose structure.
The same pattern of millions who start by only correcting one feature.. then before we know it they are totally destroyed! If you look hard enough, you will sure find a video off these people who state they’d never go wild.. they’d never overstep the fine line between beauty and hideous facial features.. you may even find clips of them where they have criticized the people like MJ or Jocelyn Wildenstein for their devastating extreme makeovers but they are now almost right behind these people We have seen a massive increase in people flying out to Turkey for this never ending path of destruction for cheap surgery 😩😩 These same celebrities are not buying cheap fake horrid handbags off the streets of Turkey, so why are they paying for “cheap nasty surgery”? After all, they can throw that cheap nasty bag in the bin but they cannot throw their destroyed face in the bin 😩😩😩 Look at Katie price, her face was absolute perfection.. I am a big fan of Katie.. but she has totally destroyed her face on those Turkish operating beds!!! If Your reading this Katie Price? Please stop! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼😭😭😭
Heck he had a nose seen on many black male's faces. I never saw Michael's nose exceptional big standing out from his brother's noses..and I came up watching them from their J5's start up era and beyond..
It’s a shame about his childhood and insecurities, because he really wasn’t a bad looking guy at all, and that first nose job was absolutely masterful. Good video!
He was my age, I grew up listening to the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson later on. I used to have a crush on him until all of that surgery. RIP Michael! ❤
Your analysis of MJ is thoughtful, nonjudgmental and insightful. There are very few physicians like you who love to educate, and share their knowledge in such a manner so that it may help others see things in themselves they have never noticed before and perhaps make better decisions about their healthcare.
So well written! I agree, what an admirable and rare trait! Michael Jackson had incredible gifts of dance, singing and songwriting! Such a difficult early life with large demands of him and intense pressure to perform by his father. It was so sad hearing he had died so young!
I swear, I have never witnessed another celeb go through so much change than MJ did. You couldn't even tell it was him from 1979-1995. The man changed soooo much. The only way we knew it was still him was because he sang, danced, and his eyes were still the same. I swear looking back at it Michael was like an enigma
I think a huge part of it is due to his vitiligo tho. And the wigs too. If you take out the vitiligo, the wigs and the make-up, the face in itself overall is not THAT different, apart from the nose which is obviously completely different. I think his image change just has a bigger impact on people because there's also that very visible change in skin color and hair, but there's definetely people who've had more done to their faces compared to Michael.
@@wickedhouston5538 i think he looked nice before, but i disagree on "no surgery looking natural" thats just not true, u just wouldnt notice a good surgery because it would look natural
@@officer_baitlyn You can nearly always tell when someone has had something done, because natural features are never perfectly straight. No surgery is ever perfect either, there's always tell tale sign of post surgery work.
This doctor clearly has a good heart and a lot of compassion. I appreciate how he brings his expertise to a deeper exploration of the physical and psychological aspects of Michael Jackson.
only he did not do enough research. And did not even notice MJ had discoid lupus, which makes any cosmetic plastic surgeries after he was diagnosed in 1984, impossible. Rumors of many surgeries have been denied many times in court and by his doctor's. And autopsy report clearly states he did not have many plastic surgeries. Just 2 on nose and the one that covers burns on his scalp. Not to mention he called depigmentation cream a pleaching cream, which is a major mistake.
@@minaolenella869 Fun fact: In 1983 Michael first did the moonwalk. At the time his doctors told him to stop all the plastic surgery and shave his arse and walk backwards.
@@missfryGRR another one that starts to throw insults when proven wrong by facts. Have you even heard anything about "moon face" that is caused by prednisone? And why are you denying a basic symptoms of discoid lupus?
Yeah truthfully as someone who is black (and also half asian) with a very narcissistic guardians, I can totally see how he ended up cutting up his face. A lot of people don't consider how child abuse can be racialized and really effect you as an adult.
Fr. I remember my mom telling me how big & wide my nose was at 14,15 years old..I used to pinch it everyday thinking it would help build some type of bridge or something. That stuff sticks to you even in adulthood
exactly. I'm African with those features. I got made fun of for my big nose, huge gap, big eyes etc........ in the end I still love my strong features n myself
This video was incredibly respectful; I'm genuinely appreciative. Thank you! Did you happen to know that he also grappled with lupus discord, which further complicated his recovery from nose surgery? This information can be found in his 1993 medical report. After his initial surgery, scar tissue formed in his nose (at the time, they weren't aware of his lupus), necessitating subsequent corrective procedures. The medical records indicate that, aside from two cosmetic surgeries, the rest were reconstructive in nature. Furthermore, MJ also contended with alopecia and, in addition to his vitiligo, lost pigment in his lips. This is why he had lip and eyebrow tattoos, as well as a hairline tattoo. We are aware that he occasionally wore wigs due to scalp damage incurred during the Pepsi commercial incident. Considering all these factors, and the constant scrutiny of his appearance while being in the spotlight before millions of people throughout his life, it's understandable how he may have felt immense pressure to maintain a perfect image.
That’s exactly what I’ve wanted to say - a lot of people don’t know that he’s suffered from lupus and had to have multiple reconstructive surgeries around his nose and cheeks to get rid of the dead scar tissue caused by lupus.
True, it's a slippery slope. Jackson was a highly creative and driven man. It's a same he didn't stop after the first procedure. Which looked really good and suited his bone structure.
@RN RN he was dependent on painkillers, not a drug like other artists who use drugs to be high, MJ did it because he had arthritis in his spine and could not dance on tour, to calm the pain of the multiple hair reconstruction operations and to combat his insomnia.
@@lesliegpe.carloslagunas2548 And he was given propofol every night for his insomnia, Smthg that is used for in-hospital surgical sedation, not even available in pharmacy. I’m a surgical nurse, so plz explain how in the world this could have been appropriate for him to get a good night sleep.
He truly did. I think of Michael so often, the way his name is still slandered relentlessly after his body has already long decayed. I wish they’d let the man’s soul rest. It too hurts to know that his spiral into plastic surgery was mainly caused by his Dad who mocked his black features despite having gifted them to him :( he’s such a misunderstood angel, his love for mankind, music, dance and the earth inspired me all through childhood and still does now.
Totally agree. Heartbreaking when he died. How sad and depressed he must have been to not be able to sleep like a normal person. Lack of sleep is the worst thing and he must have been desperate to take that drug to sleep?
@@jandedick7519 Is everyone forgetting he abused opioids for YEARS? After relying on narcotics to sleep … it’s difficult to do ANYTHING after that. I believe it’s called Post Opioid Detox Syndrome. He couldn’t fall asleep naturally anymore.
As a long time MJ fan I think this surgeon was very respectful of Michael's history and reasons why he may have done it. Thank you for the fantastic insight and respectful nature of your video. You went into detail without slandering or putting him down.
You’re right, he was cute before the first surgery, but was really handsome after the first surgery. It just went downhill from there. He was a damaged individual. I still wonder about the accusations of child abuse of young boys. The abuse done to him by his father could have warped his mind. No doubt he was a gifted singer and songwriter, but that does not mean he was innocent.
one surgery can really improve things for some people. we can't act like people don't get treated differently if they have a very large and deformed nose, for example. it just shouldn't become an addiction
@@emilythompson3605He was 100% innocent. Abuse doesn’t mean you become an abuser, you can actually become the exact opposite which is what happened with MJ. Every single evidence points to his innocence and his 4 accusers are all proven liars who couldn’t get one story straight, constantly contradicting themselves and only wanting money from him. He was undoubtedly one of the greatest human beings who has ever lived.
It's because his dad told him he had a big nose and picked on him about that he's very sensitive person that was a mean to say !! Thats his son !! Did you watch the Jackson's the American Dream that'd actors doing a movie on their lives !! Then you can see the whole picture !! Good movie !!
He did it to look like Peter Pan he wanted to be like Peter Pan that's why he named his home Never Land Ranch !! Thats why I thought about it and put the 2 together !!
When I clicked on this vid, I didn't expect to feel so much sadness. I grew up listening to him, my mom was a big fan, and I saw a lot of these changes and was aware of them over the years, but seeing his progression (digression?) like this really made it hit home how damaged he was. That was a man who was in a lot of emotional pain and tumult. It's heartbreaking.
I'm with you. Coming to the end, what exactly ran through my mind was, "this is so sad" and not in a mocking way, I truly sympathize with what he went through. RIP MJ.
Reality hits so differently seeing this summary as an adult vs. trying to comprehend while growing up in parallel with his career. Or rather, NOT trying, as kids can be quite oblivious to fact vs. opinion vs. fiction.
I haven't red about his life but simply by osmosis i believe his father has some faults. This kid was a wonder . His singing is amazing and with a talent like his the road can be very tough. He needed a strong family and a father figure to act as a lighthouse. Fathers are often unaware how much damage they can cause in childs life not by just being aggressive or abusive but by simply being absent . Again i can be 100 % wrong I don't know.
Thank you doc, I never loved my large round nose before. But now knowing more about the structure of my nose I can only be happy and thankful for my potato nose. I can breathe amazingly and it holds a mask pretty well on place, my glasses too. I think I'll keep my nose just the way it is.
Sometimes my thoughts are exact as you, but then I realise that I don't care how my potato nose looks to me, I was worried that what others would say. Tbh I would rather be ugly than having endless plastic surgeries. I ain't dealing w all that pain for nothing😂
Bigger noses frame the face really well, and round noses soften the face. I really think those kinds of noses are underrepresented in media because they are so beautiful
Michael was truly bullied as a kid and then it went downhill. IMO he was the most beautiful during the BAD era 1986-1989. Thank you for approaching this topic so respectfully as you did! You are a great physician!
It’s just really sad not one single person surrounded him was “brave” or truthful enough to tell him to take a step back and simply just rest. Instead people were treating him as this nonhuman creature only because he achieved something, like you said, bigger than life.
I def agree but also...it's very difficult to "stand up to" someone as powerful as MJ. he (prob) surrounded himself w yes men/ppl that agreed w everything he said. & if someone didn't, or tried to tell him smthng he didn't want to hear, they were prob gone (kicked out of the inner circle).
@@virginiaelizabeth4577 yeah that’s also my first impression before I read more about what’s behind his corruptive system in the final years. I think it’s a gradual effect due to the fact that over the years there were too many people were trying to manipulate him into believing that they can “stand up for” him however relentlessly betrayed him in the end. If he had a better support system who is not bleeding him for every penny that he earned but just take care of him only for the sake of his own well being both mentally and physically, I don’t think Michael would turn out to be this fragile, easily triggered person. I also think the continued demand of changing his appearance is partially based on the significant lack of control over his own life too, along with his eating disorder, a powerless person would try to prove to himself that something is still within his own control even at the expense of hurting himself.
@@eastlynburkholder3559 yeah like a friend who would feel relatable to his situation, but a person like that would have lots of business of their own to deal with at the first place, it’s tough
This was hard to watch. You wanted Michael to stop , wishfully, even though you knew the end result. To further amplify his insecurities, was vitilago. I have several family members who have this disorder and it be devastating. I can’t imagine the toll that must have taken on him. The pressure to hide it and have a perfect appearance. It’s honestly heartbreaking. Thank you for such a respectful video on this subject
Actually, I think he ended up with vitiligo because on a deep level he wanted to white/total white acceptance. (I'm one of those people who believes the universe grants your desires.) Sad 😥.
@@antpoo His image and look were perfect during the time of Thriller. Once he rolled into Bad, things started to change. He looks completely "white" on the Bad cover.
I think what he did up until Thriller were flattering improvements but it all went a bit downhill after that, and I think certainly by the early 90s the doctors should’ve said no more, but I guess money talks 😬
I agree however Michael wanted to be a white person. He slowly transformed himself to appear physically white. Facial features, hair texture, skin, children…
After 10 rhinoplasty surgeries, I'm amazed he didn't have skin necrosis. His money hungry father always looked for perfection in Michael. Sadly, it lead to body dysmorphia.
He did get necrosis. Michael had Lupus, which is an auto-immune disease that attacks the hosts body, and often prevents the body from healing from injuries and surgeries. It lead to a lot of scar tissue forming around the site of surgery, and tissue necrosis inside of his nose. After the first couple surgeries, and them finding out he has Lupus, the rest of the surgeries were trying to save his nose, and removing scar tissue to help him breathe. Michael talked about his Lupus, and how he just wanted to look "normal" despite all of the degradation. The doctors tried as hard as they could to make his nose look presentable, as normal as they could.
@@NexTakenouchi Yes. It is a misconception he had body dysmorphia. Yes he had insecurities but he was struggling with actual disfiguring conditions. And he had unhealthy coping mechanisms for stress like anorexia & insomnia because of childhood PTSD. It was not body dysmorphia, he was trying to save his nose from the destruction lupus was causing. He did not intend it to be that way, he understood that it looked disfigured.
@@AmyLeeAngelLove I mean he ended up turning white due to his vitiligo do you think the way he looked in his later life would make sense for him to have 4c hair if anything I think it would have looked odd on him, plus back in those days relaxed hair was the trend and style almost everyone back then would relax their hair it was big in the 80s/90s.
I love that you brought up the question and the reason *’WHY’.* This showing how sensitive you were about this topic. Plus showing how caring you are towards your viewers, as you know we would want to see the *what, when AND the why* side to Michael Jackson Nose Job Plastic Surgery actions.
Thank you, Dr. Linkov. This was both very enighting and respectful of Michael's memory and his legacy. As with the case for many African Americans, my nose is wide like Michael's original nose. Genetics are obviously at play. In my early 20s, I hated my nose. Self acceptance is the most important gift that we can ever give ourselves. It's heartbreaking that one of the most talented and greatest entertainers the world has ever known felt so flawed.
The weird thing is, I have a prominent, long, narrow nose, and I always hated it. I wanted a broader, shorter nose like Michael's original. You are so right that "self acceptance is the most important gift that we can ever give ourselves."
I have zero remorse for him, he was a pedophile who sexually assaulted more than one person, he didn't deserve the platform he had and still has 🤮 he's a disgusting piece of shit
Thank you for being fair and empathetic to Michael. He was too sensitive for this life. He later regretted his surgeries, used to say that he looked like a lizard... 😢 It broke my heart seeing him covering his face every time people came near. 😪
The song "Vincent" by Don Mc Clean, always makes me think of Michael. "I could've told you, Michael* this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you."
@@julielockett1812 His entire life was turned upside down during the trial, yet they found NO proof of any wrongdoing. The FBI was after him for 13 years. Don't you think they would have found out at least one bad thing during that time??? The never did. They published the documents on their site after Michael's death. It only proved he was innocent all along.
WOW !! The Peter pan Picture and your analysis.... cinched it all together ❤️ Explains everything about his looks. Never heard that mentioned as to his looks. Makes complete sense. My heart still breaks for all he went through. 💔
I’m a big fan of Michael. I try to never judge him physically, because I know what it’s like to be insecure and to be ridiculed by family growing up. I judge by character. And that’s what you did. You handled it perfectly. Thank you
Uh huh. Where exactly on the bar do you place the pedophilia? It's amazing what you can get away with when you are immensely talented. I realize his upbringing likely contributed to a very high degree, but that line is one that should very much not be crossed...PERIOD. It really doesn't get any lower than that, IMO. And that is precisely the sort of thing that will make the next generation of those he 'touched' into the train wreck that his personal life was. The real shame is that he needed help VERY VERY badly and obviously no one bothered to care enough to see that he received it. I suspect that as long as they were on the gravy train wagon all was good as far as they were concerned. It makes me sad, because I've heard a lot of people say he had a very kind heart, THAT part of his character was definitely on the plus side.
@@MrJdsenior sexual abuse survivors know who could be capable of committing these horrible crimes cause we not only saw but got to experience the typical profile of child molesters or pedophiles in general. And Michael Jackson doesn’t fit into the picture. Not at all. Not 1%. I’m a survivor of sexual abuse myself and studied every case and even Michael himself for years before I even became a fan. Back then it took a lot of time to research everything. Going through every page of the fbi files which they’ve released on their website,court documents,statements and i even studied the "victims" which refused to take polygraphs for years. In 2019,2020 and 21. When a judge for almost 40 years is saying that he’s disgusted by the lies you’re fabricating,you gotta tell there’s clearly something wrong. There are major evidence that only speaks for Michaels innocence,which the media of course covered as always when it comes to Michael. Same with the parents who went to jail for lying in court or stealing from Michael and blackmailing him for money. People like you never got the see the truth cause y’all don’t make any effort to dive into a subject more than you get to see in the news. His physical changes had absolutely nothing to do with fitting into the pedophile profile. Someone like Michael who have had no privacy at all and had cameras all over his ass,wouldn’t have gotten away with it if he would’ve been one. That makes no sense what you’re saying. That man was always on trap always exploring the world meeting people,went on tours,gave concerts went to charity galas,tribute shows,TV shows,Hospitals etc. he couldn’t even sit in his hotel without thousands of cameras lurking outside under his balcony. He couldn’t do anything. He haven’t had the time to do this shit y’all are accusing him of. 😂 the system wanted to destroy him with the allegations and the Santa Barbara DA even flew all around the world offering $200.000 to parents to lie about mj. When one parent wanted to tell Michael what’s going on after he called a friend and told him everything,he mysteriously got shot in front of his garage. They’ve tried to turn his biggest passion against him and when they couldn’t succeed,they had to get rid of him by killing Michael. Michael had the power no one else had. No president or government.
@denise mand exactly. Also the fact that he’s dead since 12 years now and there’s still nothing that says he did that and he can’t even defend himself. It’s so easy to convict a man of a crime when he’s dead. But SOMEHOW there’s nothing and I really mean NOTHING that says he was even capable of doing this.
i like that you touched on the psychological aspect of his journey with the surgeries. he was judged and mocked for so many years during his prime, which is so heartbreaking because he was clearly a man in pain and struggling with body dysmorphia.
His father... I hope he has guilt for treating his children like a golden ticket instead of children. Such an amazing spirit, amazing performer.. amazing human. It's terrible how that one second, that one Pepsi commercial, that one moment in time can change a life so drastically. So much respect for MJ.
When Michael's father was interviewed about alleged abuse he denied it and went on to talk about Michael having his brothers around and not being alone because of them. Kind of weirdly changing the subject
Crazily enough, if his father didn’t impart all that a$$ whooping, he likely might not have been MJ. I don’t condone abuse, but there are pathways in life that come from pain and misery. We all would love to have a perfect life but that’s impossible.
I hated my original nose.. It became an obsession of mine. Even tho everyone told me there was nothing wrong with it. I ended up getting a rhinoplasty and got a perfect “scoop” button nose. And I became even more insecure. I ended up being diagnosed with body dysmorphic disorder. And I learned that with BDD plastic surgery makes your symptoms worse. So I understand how it can turned into a slippery slope. Because no matter how perfect your nose is, how many surgeries you get. It will NOT cure body dysmorphia. It has really fucked up my mental health. There was 2 years of my life that I wouldn’t leave the house or socialize with people (except for work). Because I genuinely thought I was deformed. It didn’t matter that people would now tell me my nose is perfect and they wish they had my nose. Because I don’t see it that way. But that’s apart of the mental illness. I feel for Michael Jackson. The surgeons should have stopped him from anymore procedures. I tried to go in for a revision but I had a very respectable and humane doctor that literally wouldn’t perform a revision rhinoplasty on me. And I’m glad he said no because it wouldn’t have cured my BDD and it couldn’ve eneded I’m a slippery slope.
@@SPZ909 I understand because of michael Jackson’s celebrity status he will always find another doctor. But there are a TON of cases where people with body dysmorphia keep getting surgeries and doctors keep doing it on them.. and they are just regular people. At some point, some of these doctors just need to say no
This is me with bdd minus the surgery. I fear surgery for the same reason because logically I just know it'd make things worse, not better, because surgeries always leave a mark and are imperfect. This is a mental disease that is very crippling. Thinking you are deformed when you know clearly that you are not, but can't stop having emotional reactions as if you are.
@@mariahr1773 That also happened to him with the prescription painkillers (and happened to Prince too). There were always doctors that were willing to prescribe him extremely dangerous painkillers. I mean at the end he was using something that is only used at hospitals where patients have machines constantly monitoring heart rate and breathing and where there are extreme guidelines about its administration
Since no one seems to have mentioned it, I would just like to say what a beautiful conclusion. I think you hit the head on the nail with the comment of his stolen childhood. I literally thought you were quoting his (sadly not very known) song, Childhood. I recommend all who has watched this video to listen to it, it is truly amazing. Thank you!
As a physician, and someone who underwent rhinoplasty myself between med school and residency, I found this a fantastically detailed, educational and compassionate breakdown of a plastic surgery "journey." It's unfortunate that money really can buy you anything, even from supposedly ethical physicians. I say this bc at some point, it should have been abundantly clear that Jackson was struggling with significant body dysmorphic disorder. One can't help but wonder if, at some point, his money might have been better spent on therapy rather than surgery. And maybe he had therapy, I don't know. If so, it doesn't appear to have helped him accept his appearance. One of the the things that would perhaps be worth mentioning as a cosmetic surgeon - and you seem like a skilled and thoughtful one - is the proportions of Jackson's face. I recall my surgeon and I chatting and him telling me that a lot of his job amounts to "managing expectations," ie. sharing with patients his professional opinion as to whether what they want is a) even possible, and b) advisable, based on their other facial features. So I imagine that, as a cosmetic surgeon, you have to think about what will "work," aesthetically speaking, with the person's overall appearance. In looking at Jackson's face - which in this video is, at times, side-by-side with your own face, just as a general "face shape comparison"! - I was struck by how broad and square Jackson's jaw was. I think it would be fair to say that he had a comparatively large, broad face, which - though not desirable to him - made his larger, broader natural nose at least proportional to his face. As his nose narrows due to repeated revisions, his face (and especially his jaw) begins to appear disproportionately broad. I really enjoyed this breakdown and look forward to seeing more of your videos, and hearing more of your thoughts, which strike me as balanced, considered and insightful, especially in this era of sensationalistic media. Subscribed.
I doubt he had any therapy. He had been picked up by a record label that ended up controlling him 100%. When he died, he was broke, but his estate ended up making money after his death ,so, the record label recovered their losses plus...... It is clear money is still being made, using his name and his performances. The entertainment industry is the investment of talented people who end up losing all their rights and often, their souls. That is Hollywood, in particular. The pop music industry is way up there....example, JZ and his wife who have become billionaires. Look it up and do your research......very .....entertaining......The "frequency" of their "music" and how it affects some people. It is not a positive influence. See where I am going ? It takes a little research, but not much and there it is !!!!! See what happens to that guy who dates one of the Jenner girls ? the "frequency" generated in that "concert" caused people to freak out and step over each other....I think 10 of them died. It has become very quiet lately. We hear nothing about it. Surprised ? not really. It will be snuffed...
He was handsome. I wish he could see what we all saw. This man was living through so much pain. I hope he found the peace in death that he didn’t find in life
I don't know about plastic surgery, but I am a portrait artist. And I think Gary has a great face. Not many people can look so elegant with no hair, but Gary pulls it off. Not only does he have a great face, but a great voice. Thank you, Gary, for your videos.
Super glad I saw this! I broke my nose in a diving accident at 13. A lot of scar tissue formed and I had a huge noggen and couldn’t breathe well. But I was never upset about it and thought I looked fine. My divorced parents thought otherwise and coordinated (for like the only time in their lives) to get my rhinoplasty when I was old enough (the doc had me wait till I was 16 and my face had stopped growing). The surgery didn’t come out like the doc expected and he wanted to put me under again for a touch up. I was like, NO! I can breathe now, so thanks but no thanks. This compulsion to believe you are nothing but your physical body is such a huge cancer in our physical world. Breathe and BE happy, folks!! 🥰
There’s so much more to life- I deleted most social media, and I’ve never been happier. Found I was focusing too much on how I looked, but appearance is essentially a small aspect of what makes a person, and certainly not the most important
He was so naturally handsome. So sad to watch him change this drastically. Regardless of their celebrity or “artist” status, it’s really disturbing that someone would agree to do these surgeries, in my opinion.
I think it’s good for doctors to not only care about a paycheck. To ask questions about the reason for surgery and even go so far as to deny the surgery if they believe the patient suffers from dysmorphia.
@@drgarylinkov Yet ppl like myself who need a hip surgery can’t get it cause I don’t have the money. But if I was rich they’d give me anything I want I’m sure right.
Very impressive analysis. Dr. Linkov never disrespects the patient, in this case, Michael Jackson, but tells a cautionary tale that many of his colleagues would ignore for profit.
Most children victim of CEN (childhood emotional neglect) are perfectionists as adults! When your family treat you with indifference and always invalidate your feelings, You start to believe no one will see any value in you, unless it's all perfect! It's sad, but his family didn't teach him that he should first learn to love himself and that his feelings were really important as a child!
I was never a huge fan, but just last week discovered there was a much older Jackson sister who had moderate success singing. Her son, a very handsome young singer and dancer Austin Brown committed suicide young. I wasconlybaware of the Jackson 5 and Janet. So tragedy is still going on in that talented family.
I myself had several cosmetic surgeries on my face over a period of 17 years and I can confirm, the foundation for a never-ending dissatisfaction with one's appearance is laid by psychological injuries in childhood.
Hello Dr. Gary. I enjoyed this one. I'm sure you've been told this before but there is something about you that is easy to trust. Never change that for anyone!
I think the fact that he heavily contoured his nose with makeup which made it appear even narrower suggests that he really had mental struggles regarding his nose. I would think any makeup artist working on him would use makeup to make his nose appear more natural if left to their own devices.
The contouring was not to make it look narrow but to give it depth. It looked flat otherwise cause of the vitiligo & lupus. It was only for the stage. He had to create dimension that could be seen from far away.
This is the most ridiculous analysis I have ever seen. Of course MJ had his nose done, not once, not twice, but.... The surgeon speculates only by pics, totally missing the effects of lighting , flesh(light), photoshopped photos, totally missed comparison of photos in 2009 with thousands of pics from 2005 (trial=day light), angels of photos... and all the previous years combine. wth he means 1992-1995??? and at 15:15 with such pathetic comparison of 1975-2001 photos.... BUT 12:13 perfectly shows the 2005 nose as perfect. 10th surgery? nah... In every year there are thousands of photos of MJ and the surgeon picked up only those generally available from tab mags and newspapers, which are specifically made to attract people and create a specific narrative = making Michael ugly. Then he compares 1996-2001 noses... like... what? Seriously? Again, lets compare the very same nose in 2005 and 2009 with those from 1991/92/93 Its not like changing noses every year and during 2009 year MJ looked great and having sometimes bigger nose than the other noses before... Its like conspiring about having a box full of noses or... that there were 5 different Michael Jacksons. and then if his nose suffered such damage why after 2005 he looked great, if we can see really damaged noses of celebrities and weirdos (Botched show), so MJ had 10 surgeries and still the same nose without damage? and there is one important problem... MJ was such a non-private person, totally scanned by media and tabloid... so when, where and how he had a lot of spare time to do all the surgeries and nobody noticed and never reported about it if the media ppl knew everything better than anyone else? at the end of speculations, the surgeon totally missed the point of the changes. its called VITILIGO. Michael with vitiligo could have never been able to be a performer or an artist as a white black man with typical features of Black people aka African-American nose. Imagine a successful artist at the age of 22 knowing his career would be over because of changing of his skin color in a few years? MJ was not Lee Thomas. Google Lee Thomas. (not only my oponion) the only option was to change his nose (as the fundamental feature) and "transform" himself into a new Michael Jackson, the artist, creation of himself ... like we all do know him since the Thriller era (1982). The tabloidish speculations and rumours totally out of reality like MJ wanted to be less like his family??? huh? The surgeon stopped analysing in 2002 and this is the end of the story??? OK... btw, he had only one personal makeup artist, his best friend Keren Faye.
@@MJfansk I agree as a fan I don't think it's possible he had 10 whole surgeries. Especially between 2003 and 05 cause he was dealing with so much and was so heavily portrayed in the media. Also I don't think this doctor considered Michael's lupus also like you said can someone really have 10 surgeries and not have his nose collapse??? Also he doesn't consider the heavy contouring Michael did on his nose. I think Michael probably had between 3-5 nose jobs and the last few were definitely due to his Lupus and possibly some form of dysmorphia. Also the angles are off cause in other images you can't see major changes in his nose as frequently as the doctor claims.
What is interesting in the hair burning episode is that when Michael became aware that he was in danger, he called out to his brother Tito. Injured children call out to their protector, usually Mommy, but Michael called out for Tito. He wasn't looking for comfort from his parents.
This video should be required watching for all rhinoplasty patients. My daughter wants a nose job. She gets to watch this tomorrow morning. Thanks Doc. ❤️
I have assisted plastic surgeons in nose jobs and they had a basic requirement....the patients had to want the procedure because they felt like ugly ducklings and that was a validated request. No teen wants to look like an ugly duck, however, if we heard a teen saying " I will attract boys that way or I will be more accepted in my group " . That was the red flag ! and we sent them to a shrink......telling their parents, they had to evaluate their kids. I remember one girl we did a rhinoplasty on and a little mento plasty ( chin) . She went from an unattractive girl with a big nose and a receding chin, to a gorgeous one, with a nice nose and chin ......The difference was awesome !. Life is easier for attractive people and we know this, as it is validated by statistics. If your daughter wants a nose job, save your money as insurance companies do not pay unless they have a deviated septum.....That will usually fly as an excuse. Check out with your plastic surgeon.
I agree with the comment below. I was once too the daughter who wanted a rhinoplasty since the beginning of my teens. There are reasons that will fizzle out with time and others that don't. I had the big, humpy and bulbous nose that didn't fit too well the rest of my features. I went to visit to a couple of surgeons, they both asked me personal questions to assess whether it was founded in the right reasons. I investigated myself, watched rhinoplasty videos. Still I was 100% sure that was what I wanted. I got it at the age of 19 and started to feel good about myself from then onwards. My self-steem improved a lot. I'm 32 now and don't regret it in the least. I identify with the nose I have now and not the one I had previously. I probably had body dysmorphia at some point, but luckily I didn't go on the road of further changing my image through any procedure. Have an honest conversation with your daughter and ask her how much her current nose affects her life in a negative way. If she's a sensible person, she'll know getting surgeries to fix every little thing isn't the best way.
I didn't like my nose but I didn't consider surgery to fix my deviated septum till I broke it, accidentally. After surgery the doctor had trouble removing the aluminum splint & pryed it off with a quip. This left a permanent indent in my nose, like pig. Their solution to fixing it was a second surgery & pinching the nose so tight no air could enter. The 3rd revision took cartilage from my ear to rebuild the nose bridge. It doesn't lay flat. My nose is crooked & looks like a permanent zit is coming out where the cartlige sits higher than the rest. People stare at it, not my eyes. I'm not going in for anymore surgery. I can breathe. I can't tell you what I'd give to have my original nose back.
Gary. You are such a comfort to those even thinking of having any type of plastic surgery. Your reviews help one realize how natural beauty truly is just that!
I almost didn’t want to watch this because I figured you would be mean and make fun of him land exploit his image. I’m glad you showed it in a better view. I’m a huge fan of Michael Jackson and it’s nice that you added some phycology behind his reasoning without being cruel.
This is the most ridiculous analyse I have ever seen. Of course MJ had his nose done, not once, not twice, but.... The surgeon speculates only by pics, totally missing the effects of lighting , flesh(light), photoshopped photos, totally missed comparison of photos in 2009 with thousands of pics from 2005 (trial=day light), angels of photos... and all the previous years combine. wth he means 1992-1995??? and at 15:15 with such pathetic comparison of 1975-2001 photos.... BUT 12:13 perfectly shows the 2005 nose as perfect. 10th surgery? nah... In every year there are thousands of photos of MJ and the surgeon picked up only those generally available from tab mags and newspapers, which are specifically made to attract people and create a specific narrative = making Michael ugly. Then he compares 1996-2001 noses... like... what? Seriously? Again, lets compare the very same nose in 2005 and 2009 with those from 1991/92/93 Its not like changing noses every year and during 2009 year MJ looked great and having sometimes bigger nose than the other noses before... Its like conspiring about having a box full of noses or... that there were 5 different Michael Jacksons. and then if his nose suffered such damage why after 2005 he looked great, if we can see really damaged noses of celebrities and weirdos (Botched show), so MJ had 10 surgeries and still the same nose without damage? and there is one important problem... MJ was such a non-private person, totally scanned by media and tabloid... so when, where and how he had a lot of spare time to do all the surgeries and nobody noticed and never reported about it if the media ppl knew everything better than anyone else? at the end of speculations, the surgeon totally missed the point of the changes. its called VITILIGO. Michael with vitiligo could have never been able to be a performer or an artist as a white black man with typical features of Black people aka African-American nose. Imagine a successful artist at the age of 22 knowing his career would be over because of changing of his skin color in a few years? MJ was not Lee Thomas. Google Lee Thomas. (not only my oponion) the only option was to change his nose (as the fundamental feature) and "transform" himself into a new Michael Jackson, the artist, creation of himself ... like we all do know him since the Thriller era (1982). The tabloidish speculations and rumours totally out of reality like MJ wanted to be less like his family??? huh? The surgeon stopped analysing in 2002 and this is the end of the story??? OK...
@@MJfansk you're trying to be defensive even about what this surgeon didn't talk about. It's doesn't matter the year or the reason he did it, the bottom line is he did and I think this video is to hell those who are still alive, not to discredit MJ. You're just out of touch with your comment.
15:50 Michael said as much. There's a phone call where he says that he was happy with his surgeries for the most part (this was in the 90s I believe) because he wanted to look NOTHING like his father and his family. As someone who has experienced childhood trauma, I can relate. I have my family's nose and I have always wanted a nose job to get rid of this resemblance. I think racism in America added to this.
What a touching episode about the king of pop, MJ. I appreciate how you discuss the importance of plastic surgeons understanding the deep motivations behind their patients' desires, to prevent future regrets for both parties. Being a plastic surgeon involves addressing psychological aspects too. You're excellent, and you look fantastic, Dr. Linkov ! ❤
Today you would say he had Dysmorphobia. It's very sad that nobody stopped this development. This video was very respectfully made. Thank you for your sensibility. I have a form of Dysmorphobia myself and I understand how awful this disorder can make you feel. If I had money, I am not sure if I could resist.
Body dysmorphia is a difficult to treat.Also mental health wasnt really huge topic in those years even now there are lots of people who dont realise they have something wrong how they think about things. Wish his plastic surgeon send him to therapy and psyciathrist before going for second surgery.
Well, just remember, the way you carry yourself, interact with others, etc., can really cover a multitude of physical imperfections. I once heard a girl talk about how every morning when she looked in the mirror she would just say "lookin' sexy", whether she felt it or not. And honestly, it's hard not to imagine the subtle changes in attitude and behavior that a habit like would tend to produce (if not done obsessively) being very attractive. This may be an oversimplification, but if you feel beautiful, you become beautiful. And you don't have to feel physically beautiful in terms of appearance for that to be true, necessarily. If you just go about with confidence that you have qualities and virtues that make you lovable and interesting, and worth having as a friend, I think it'll still greatly increase people's perception of beauty in you.
Dr Gary, you have such an eloquent and compassionate way of addressing Michael Jackson's surgery. I found your graph timeline of his surgeries to major life changes very informative.
I loved MJ. Glad this was such a respectful analysis. I wish he would’ve stopped after the first nose job in the 1970s. It fit his face and was in harmony with his other features. He also still had an ethnic looking nose and it didn’t scream plastic surgery.
I thought the first one was perfect. He was gorgeous at that time. The second one didn't change much, but from then on it detracted from his looks instead of improving them. I was fairly certain by the third one he had demons, not surprised it went back to his childhood. So sad such a musical genius had to go through so much.
I think he lived a 100 years in his short 50 years double speed and made his exit, manslaughter or not. Imagine him alive today still struggling with everything from health to society. He would be miserable and struggling with every breath in absolute poor health. Already back in his teens and twenties, MJ had trouble breathing which affects singing and high energy dancing. He tried fixing it, the world and media called it a vain nose job - trivialized it. Vocal and physical performers, especially high caliber types, can't afford breathing issues stemming from nose and throat. He came, he suffered, he performed, he gave and he left. I am not a fan but I just think he is better for it in spirit.
Back in 2016, I was in a fatal car accident. If my profile picture still has me in a green shirt, that's what my nose looked like before the accident: long and pronounced. I loved my nose because it was like my father's nose, who died in the accident. Unfortunately, my accident was so severe that I needed both a rhinoplasty and later on a septoplasty. I thought the septoasty would make my nose look closer to pre-accident, but found out it was only to help me breathe better (which is very important and functional!). On top of that, people would often tell me my new nose (small and petite with a curved in bridge) was "cuter" than my old nose. Honestly, it hurt. The accident had taken so much from me and my family. It even took my nose, one of the most defining features I had of my dad. Over the years, I've grown to accept that this is "me" now, with the disabilities and limitations as well as the wisdom and tenacity. I also had/have body dysmorphia after the accident, but that was weight related. As a child, I was given nicknames for being super skinny and after the accident when I decided to lose weight again, I was afraid of becoming too skinny and turning into a stick... so I ate myself heavier again. Luckily, we finally figured out that I developed this dysmorphia and are working on healthy ways to cope. Yet I can't even imagine how Michael must have felt. Often I want my old nose back, but I haven't had any cosmetic surgeries after the accident. We all have something we're fighting through. Try to remember that you're beautiful and if there's something you do need to or want to change, try to find a healthy way to do so.
He was incredibly handsome as he was born and in 1980. Makes me sad that he kept going because it distorted his natural handsomeness. This is not a man that needed any surgery to improve his appearance. He was born with so much natural beauty. His nose was perfect. His skin colour was perfect. His eyes were perfect. Oh Michael just didn't see it. 💔
I just discovered your channel. My goodness, you are the epitome of a caring and loving individual. So respectful and understanding. I wish more love to you and your family.
He looked great from the start. There was no reason that he needed to do anything. Even if he had vitiligo, we - as a society - should retrain our brains to not be so judgmental and value the beauty of a human rather than the standards that marketing and lust throws at us.
@@nmjime5560 there has been studies done on different physcological issues and it has been found that THERE ARE MANY of these illnesses that are inherited. Some times they may skip a generation but they have been shown to definitely be inherited to some degree. Michael says he is a perfectionist. His dad was also a perfectionist and so may be others in his family. I wish he could have seen in himself what we saw in him...a great and kind hearted human being and a wonderful individual! It's a shame that we had to lose him to his addictions at such an early age but he will forever be in our hearts.
I'm so glad these videos exist. You have such a knack for teaching. I genuinely hope you continue to make these and teach us all so much more about surgery and how to help or respect our bodies as we go through our journies.
@spaceyaiden I see you're going down the whole video comment section remarking to anyone who will listen about your favorite superstar and how this is all lies. Why not reach a broader audience and just make a video of your own with all of the facts you know then?
Correct, first time he broke his nose, but he figured he'd make it "cuter", because his father made fun of his "big nose". It didn't heal properly, and they didn't know why. If you look at the second pic in the second surgery, you can see the malar rash from his Lupus. His old doctor thought it was some form of acne (he did struggle with it when he was younger), and put him on lots of treatments that never worked. They didn't know he had Lupus until after his second surgery, and realized that's why he wasn't healing properly, and tons of scar tissue formed in his nose. After that, all surgery was to remove scar tissue, and necrotizing tissue, and is why his nose degraded so severely. It wasn't intentional. Edit: Sorry, I'm kinda passionate when it comes to Lupus, and care deeply about Lupus survivors. I've seen what happens to people, in person, and how it kills. Surgery scars not healing, and getting worse. Losing hair. Renaud's phenomenon. Extreme sensitivity to limbs where touching anything causes terrible pain. Unable to breathe... all depending on where the Lupus would attack. It's such a serious one, and some people don't believe the Lupus sufferer is struggling with that.
My mom recently got diagnosed with Lupus...So far she hasn't had too many bad symptoms, but it's scary to think what might come of it in the future. Thank you for your post
Apparently he did not break his nose , this was a fake story confirmed by his own mother , he had he first nose job because he wanted a smaller nose , he should of stopped after that
Beautifully done video. A detailed analysis while maintaining respect and no judgment towards Michael Jackson. Professional video while very interesting and informative.
Thank you for how respectful you talk about Michael Jackson, not so judgemental... The man was sick, Yes, made sick... And people exploited him for his sickness...
His father called him "big nose" when he was a little boy. I have no doubt this psychological abusive suggestion at such an early age contributed to Michaels dismorphic perception.
Yes, it's so sad. His terrible childhood damaged him for life. For sure it also drove him and those incredible dance routines were only possible because of his insecurities and striving for perfection. It eventually killed him.
I did not like his father. So so sad
I agree. My dad said comments about my nose and I had the bump removed and best move ever. My dad had a terrible big nose himself but it didn't worry him.
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Agreed Off subject but I am now not sure if he’s guilty of abusing children I’m thinking maybe he was trapped in childhood
I never realised before watching this, that the best plastic surgeon would be the one also having a keen awareness of mental health issues leading some patients to seek surgery. They'd be lucky if they came to you!
Psychology is a major part of the job
This needs to be pinned
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@@drgarylinkov As a psychiatrist, I can’t tell you the name mover of consent ltstions done for patients prior to cosmetic procedures. Thanks for the consults.
The number of consents
This is hands down the best and most respectful breakdown of Michael Jackson's surgeries. That Peter Pan observation was the cherry on top. You nailed it Doc!
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@@drgarylinkov only he did not. He only spread more rumors without taking into account autopsy report and even mentioning discoid lupus. Frankly in 1995 MJ won the sun in court, after it claimed he had many surgeries.
@@minaolenella869 am an MJ fan and I agree with the doc
@@posharay3871 it is not about "agreeing with something" but about facts. And facts say, that the doc is wrong. MJ did have lupus, doctors like dr Strick who overlooked his medical history in 93 as part of prosecutor team, has gone in public saying that all his surgeries were reconstructive to battle lupus (and that is even less surgeries than MJ ever claimed), MJ won on court publications that said that he had too much surgeries, his autopsy report showed he did not have many surgeries (especially not around eyes), his nose changed the most in time of lupus flare up and no doctor would do a cosmetic surgery when patients are constantly taking steroids. Unless you are saying that all court documents, medical records and science is lying....
He had a prolapsed top lip by 2001 onwards smh
This video was done so respectfully. Taking a deep dive into his psyche that may have led to his surgery. He had a tough childhood. His father was abusive, and abuse shapes children. Your last theory about why he had surgeries is something I never thought of as a reason-well done. Also, your voice is so soothing. I just started your videos today.
MJ was a superstar but lived such a sad life. I hope he is healing beautifully in heaven 💜
I love his voice
But how would his father's opinions basically the things he told him effect him as a grown adult to get procedures done
@@NxthingKiof Think about it, if your father and your brothers called you ugly your entire life wouldn't that affect your mental health? Also, he had body dysmorphia.
@@Exel_ofx12 they never called him Ugly
He was gorgeous before all those surgeries. He had his reasons I'm sure but one should never mess with perfection.
He didn't want to look like his abusive father and then got vitiligo. As it started spreading it got worse and worse.
I think his father was beating him. He wouldnt let his sister tell.
What a lot of people are unaware of is during the early 80s he was doing a Pepsi commercial he spinned into a lighted torch and it caught his hair and face on fire and had 2 and 3 degree burns on his face.
The reason is americaXca crazyness and Crapy freedom for Glory ....in hell
Try suffering with body dysmorphic disorder and tell me what perfection is suppose to be
At a certain point doctors should have said no more surgery
When people are hell bent are doing something, they will find someone who will do it, with zero care for BDD.
Maybe they did
@@pansprayers There's always someone willing to do it..
money talks
Some did, he just went to someone else.
dr. gary covered this sensitive topic which such respect and care. rather than making him a spectacle, he discusses MJ with dignity. im not even a huge MJ fan, but i appreciate dr. gary’s kind and informed approach.
Thank you!
Yes he did great Job
Absolutely. I thought the exact same thing. Impressive.
I think most people would agree that this topics been discussed by UA-camrs to the point that the topics become very UGLY. People need to understand what they’re trying to achieve and how realistic it is. Far too often, patient issues are from unrealistic goals, mental illness, and surgeons are too quick to help enable them for the right price.
I couldn't say it better. I was worried that this would bash him, instead Dr. Gary has been very respectful and just analyzed the surgeries and potential (very sad) reasons. Well done.
Appreciate this sensitive take. Doctor you have empathy. What a great quality in a surgeon.
In your voice and eyes I perceive so much kindness and respect, people around you must be quite happy to know you
He has the kindest eyes ❤️
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I agree, such a kind man.
Very gentle analysis from this sympathetic person...💯🌟
Michael’s first surgery in 1979 looked nice and was sufficient! He still looked like himself and was still handsome! Michael wanted great success, and to rub shoulders with the greatest amongst us. However, once he achieved it, he didn’t know how to handle it!
Thank you for not tearing Michael down. He struggled just like the rest of us.
@Mandy Pants. More!!! POC suffer from "Beauty" standards established Globally by Europeans!!! Europeans can't even make own standards!!! However, it has been Actively subconsciously embraced & perpetrate self-hate over centuries (Being Ruled over the Globe via Empires based on Slavery, Indentured servitude, Colonization, Religion & Sexism, Economically) Truth is, people just want to be loved, As Is!!! Over time & Especially, Now, $$$$ makes it possible to avoid Learning to Love self (Color/Ethnic/Body features). Put it this way, If Whites aren't Happy w/their features&color. POC already started in a deficit & Now??? I've done enough healing to know, I a smaller 👃 No, Not with my Pie, face😆! Skin bleaching,🤣,Nah! Hair, embraced my natural curls. Weight, well, LoL... We all have... Mother, Whitney Houston thin & projected I was Ompa*lumpa big & I was shapely (dancer & gymnast),kinda like Betty Boop (Based on woman of African descent,Facts! Learned Way, later 70's kid). I can relate to my European counterparts, however it's difficult for them to step out of their comfort zone & Do the same??? That's what "White Privilege" truly means. I grew up in Upstate NY & I never had a "White" friend ask me if I'll be comfortable/or acknowledge I'll be a Minority at any event, invited. However, I cannot say they didn't question me or other POC if... Why??? Subconsciously, they've learned it's Their Right, but Not to give the same courtesy?? And "We" don't understand, why & Don't get a good answer, if question? But, we subconsciously do, Systemic Racism (Multi layered)!!!! Globally, doesn't matter Race, Color, Religion We POC/Minorities know it will Always be a journey of self-acceptance but it would be nice to have have our counterparts (Europeans) provide/support us the same, as they question.
Really?..I wander what his car payment and his ranch house payments were EVERY MONTH?..HUMM..Did he by a used car or a new one?...He had good Health Ins..?..A real struggle every month?..
@@michaelratliff9449 Dude, traumas don't go away just because u had money later in life. Why don't some people understand that money can't fix everything? Specially if that thing is a trauma that you've been building up since childhood. Btw, you don't understand what it means to be a worldwide famous celebrity like MJ was. I can tell you something. It's not as easy as u think. You fuck up things in your life, everyday, we are always making mistakes. It is a huge fucking responsability to have the whole world looking at you everyday, and you can't disappoint them. You can't disappoint your fans, you can't fuck up like you normally do because everyone is paying attention to even the slightest mistakes u could imagine. People expecting you to act in certain ways, expecting you to not let them down with your next projects, people will be always expecting something from you, people expecting things from you that sometimes not even yourself expect, but there's nothing you can do, not being MJ. He never had a break from fame really, it must have really tiring I imagine, because he's not a shitty artist that let everyone around him make his stuff and compose 100% of his shit. He was always getting involved in his music, and I'm not talking of some indications here and there, I'm talking of him coming up with the lyrics, humming verses he still had to write, beatboxing the rhythm and singing the bass melodies, the background melodies, all that stuff.
Taking all that information in account, I'd surely understand why he struggled so much with mental issues and stuff like that. And he wasn't rich when he was a kid, his father made him work really hard (physically) and also beated him and his brothers, so he struggled just as much as you if not even more.
@@michaelratliff9449 You're naive if you think money troubles are the only troubles a person can have. You could be the richest and most famous on earth and be absolutely miserable, doesn't make it any less real.
Money cannot buy life
That very first nose job was masterful, still looked very natural and subtle yet definitely softened its appearance which is obviously what he was craving. So sad he couldn't just stop at that first one before any complications had occurred, but I think you hit the nail on the head with this respectful analysis.
For the same reason some people can't get just one tattoo and why I can't eat just one old-fashioned glazed donut.
I don’t understand plastic surgeons that keep working on people when it is plain to see the person was needing work on the inside not more on the outside.
He should have stopped before the first. He sang beautifully. He looked beautiful. It’s horrible what he ended up looking like. I’m sure he was advised against it, but it was his body.
@James Hama hello james
He went from a black man to a white woman.
I had 2 surgeons in Alberta Canada say no to me for rhinoplasty.
They said I didn’t need it (my mom told me she didn’t like my nose when I was 4) and I respect these Drs for not wanting my money. Thank you for caring why people are in your office in the 1st place and not just taking the money and doing surgery. That’s honourable in the highest degree
Your nose looks fine
4 years??!!!! Но нос ещё не сформулирован
I think the 5 first surgeries was Michael’s effort to have the ‘perfect’ nose. The last 5 surgeries was Michael trying salvage a failing nose structure.
The same pattern of millions who start by only correcting one feature.. then before we know it they are totally destroyed!
If you look hard enough, you will sure find a video off these people who state they’d never go wild.. they’d never overstep the fine line between beauty and hideous facial features.. you may even find clips of them where they have criticized the people like MJ or Jocelyn Wildenstein for their devastating extreme makeovers but they are now almost right behind these people
We have seen a massive increase in people flying out to Turkey for this never ending path of destruction for cheap surgery 😩😩
These same celebrities are not buying cheap fake horrid handbags off the streets of Turkey, so why are they paying for “cheap nasty surgery”?
After all, they can throw that cheap nasty bag in the bin but they cannot throw their destroyed face in the bin 😩😩😩
Look at Katie price, her face was absolute perfection.. I am a big fan of Katie.. but she has totally destroyed her face on those Turkish operating beds!!!
If
Your reading this Katie Price? Please stop! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼😭😭😭
Wrong
what nose? the tip was fake
@@cherimerchant6279 lol-i think that's what RD meant.
Right
He was such a handsome young boy, with his “big nose”. Its a shame that his dad made him feel bad about his looks
It is a shame but I doubt it was just his father.
Ummm, no he looked better with his 1994 nose
@@x.x..x.x he looked best just as he was, it was the world that pressured him into those features
Heck he had a nose seen on many black male's faces. I never saw Michael's nose exceptional big standing out from his brother's noses..and I came up watching them from their J5's start up era and beyond..
@@naan6348 No, actually he looked much better after cosmetic surgery.
It’s a shame about his childhood and insecurities, because he really wasn’t a bad looking guy at all, and that first nose job was absolutely masterful. Good video!
He was my age, I grew up listening to the Jackson 5 and Michael Jackson later on. I used to have a crush on him until all of that surgery. RIP Michael! ❤
It breaks my heart because there was literally nothing wrong with how he looked.
I had heard it was his brothers who called him that.
The abuse he endured is understated.
well done but completely unnecessary
As the years went by, the surgeries, the dips, ..... the sadness in his eyes. his eyes were so expressive. rest in peace michael jackson
Couldn't agree more, his eyes started to look dead to me
Your analysis of MJ is thoughtful, nonjudgmental and insightful. There are very few physicians like you who love to educate, and share their knowledge in such a manner so that it may help others see things in themselves they have never noticed before and perhaps make better decisions about their healthcare.
It was technically very interesting!
So well written! I agree, what an admirable and rare trait! Michael Jackson had incredible gifts of dance, singing and songwriting! Such a difficult early life with large demands of him and intense pressure to perform by his father. It was so sad hearing he had died so young!
He should have left his nose the way it originally was. The way God intended it to be.
Why. He. Doing that. Before. He was. So. Handsome. Before that freaky. Surgery
Shit ugly Freak jacko died without nose
Thank you for covering Michael Jackson with dignity and respect
Jantomia. That Pepsi commercial Michael. Did not want to do dad convince him to do it
I swear, I have never witnessed another celeb go through so much change than MJ did. You couldn't even tell it was him from 1979-1995. The man changed soooo much. The only way we knew it was still him was because he sang, danced, and his eyes were still the same. I swear looking back at it Michael was like an enigma
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I think a huge part of it is due to his vitiligo tho. And the wigs too. If you take out the vitiligo, the wigs and the make-up, the face in itself overall is not THAT different, apart from the nose which is obviously completely different. I think his image change just has a bigger impact on people because there's also that very visible change in skin color and hair, but there's definetely people who've had more done to their faces compared to Michael.
And yet people are convinced other celebrities have been replaced with doubles. Conspiracy theories are a hell of a drug.
@jon dough that’s you, love
@jon dough no I’ve just been doing my research for over 12 years. And I WISH I was near the Nile, Egypt is beautiful.
Poor Michael. So many things went wrong in his life. But he's still the coolest pop star ever. RIP.
He was a strong man 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼💕💕💕💕💕💕💕🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼💕💕💕💕💕💕💕🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼💕💕💕💕💕💕💕🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼
All people are cool ...
He looked perfect after his first surgery at 21. He was a cute kid. Such a remarkable talent. Really a tragic end.
he looked great before surgery. no surgery looks natural
@@wickedhouston5538 highly disagree. there’s many surgeries that people have gotten that look very natural
@@wickedhouston5538 i think he looked nice before, but i disagree on "no surgery looking natural"
thats just not true, u just wouldnt notice a good surgery because it would look natural
@@wickedhouston5538 Exactly, nothing looks better than natural.
@@officer_baitlyn You can nearly always tell when someone has had something done, because natural features are never perfectly straight.
No surgery is ever perfect either, there's always tell tale sign of post surgery work.
This doctor clearly has a good heart and a lot of compassion. I appreciate how he brings his expertise to a deeper exploration of the physical and psychological aspects of Michael Jackson.
only he did not do enough research. And did not even notice MJ had discoid lupus, which makes any cosmetic plastic surgeries after he was diagnosed in 1984, impossible. Rumors of many surgeries have been denied many times in court and by his doctor's. And autopsy report clearly states he did not have many plastic surgeries. Just 2 on nose and the one that covers burns on his scalp. Not to mention he called depigmentation cream a pleaching cream, which is a major mistake.
@@minaolenella869 Fun fact:
In 1983 Michael first did the moonwalk.
At the time his doctors told him to stop all the plastic surgery and shave his arse and walk backwards.
@@travisash8180 so, you have been proven wrong by facts, and you just start to through insults. Typical.
@@minaolenella869 are you completely blind?
@@missfryGRR another one that starts to throw insults when proven wrong by facts. Have you even heard anything about "moon face" that is caused by prednisone? And why are you denying a basic symptoms of discoid lupus?
Yeah truthfully as someone who is black (and also half asian) with a very narcissistic guardians, I can totally see how he ended up cutting up his face. A lot of people don't consider how child abuse can be racialized and really effect you as an adult.
Absolutely, parents can be so cruel to their children.
Fr. I remember my mom telling me how big & wide my nose was at 14,15 years old..I used to pinch it everyday thinking it would help build some type of bridge or something. That stuff sticks to you even in adulthood
exactly. I'm African with those features. I got made fun of for my big nose, huge gap, big eyes etc........ in the end I still love my strong features n myself
@chelly sands so true. sad but it happens alot
@@annemccarron2281 very very very cruel
This video was incredibly respectful; I'm genuinely appreciative. Thank you!
Did you happen to know that he also grappled with lupus discord, which further complicated his recovery from nose surgery? This information can be found in his 1993 medical report. After his initial surgery, scar tissue formed in his nose (at the time, they weren't aware of his lupus), necessitating subsequent corrective procedures. The medical records indicate that, aside from two cosmetic surgeries, the rest were reconstructive in nature.
Furthermore, MJ also contended with alopecia and, in addition to his vitiligo, lost pigment in his lips. This is why he had lip and eyebrow tattoos, as well as a hairline tattoo. We are aware that he occasionally wore wigs due to scalp damage incurred during the Pepsi commercial incident. Considering all these factors, and the constant scrutiny of his appearance while being in the spotlight before millions of people throughout his life, it's understandable how he may have felt immense pressure to maintain a perfect image.
That’s exactly what I’ve wanted to say - a lot of people don’t know that he’s suffered from lupus and had to have multiple reconstructive surgeries around his nose and cheeks to get rid of the dead scar tissue caused by lupus.
When you're a perfectionist, you're never satisfied.
True, it's a slippery slope. Jackson was a highly creative and driven man. It's a same he didn't stop after the first procedure. Which looked really good and suited his bone structure.
That’s verbatim what MJ said in the clip w/n this clip. But thx 4 clarifying.
@RN RN he was dependent on painkillers, not a drug like other artists who use drugs to be high, MJ did it because he had arthritis in his spine and could not dance on tour, to calm the pain of the multiple hair reconstruction operations and to combat his insomnia.
exactly
@@lesliegpe.carloslagunas2548 And he was given propofol every night for his insomnia, Smthg that is used for in-hospital surgical sedation, not even available in pharmacy. I’m a surgical nurse, so plz explain how in the world this could have been appropriate for him to get a good night sleep.
Every time I learn something about MJ it makes me so sad. He had such a hard life, full of cruel people trying to control him.
He truly did. I think of Michael so often, the way his name is still slandered relentlessly after his body has already long decayed. I wish they’d let the man’s soul rest. It too hurts to know that his spiral into plastic surgery was mainly caused by his Dad who mocked his black features despite having gifted them to him :( he’s such a misunderstood angel, his love for mankind, music, dance and the earth inspired me all through childhood and still does now.
Totally agree. Heartbreaking when he died. How sad and depressed he must have been to not be able to sleep like a normal person. Lack of sleep is the worst thing and he must have been desperate to take that drug to sleep?
He’s a proven child molester, give your heads a shake
@@jandedick7519 Is everyone forgetting he abused opioids for YEARS? After relying on narcotics to sleep … it’s difficult to do ANYTHING after that. I believe it’s called Post Opioid Detox Syndrome. He couldn’t fall asleep naturally anymore.
I feel compassion for him, but more for the boys he abused-it’s inexcusable.
As a long time MJ fan I think this surgeon was very respectful of Michael's history and reasons why he may have done it. Thank you for the fantastic insight and respectful nature of your video. You went into detail without slandering or putting him down.
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@@BoobarellaNippleton WHY ??? HES SAYING GOOD THINGS?!! WHATS YOUR PROBLEM???🤔🤔🤔
Exactly
He can do rhinoplasties. But he needs to know when to stop.
@@vovac8915 it's his face Lol
He looked so much better before the surgeries. Honestly everybody does.
You’re right, he was cute before the first surgery, but was really handsome after the first surgery. It just went downhill from there. He was a damaged individual. I still wonder about the accusations of child abuse of young boys. The abuse done to him by his father could have warped his mind. No doubt he was a gifted singer and songwriter, but that does not mean he was innocent.
Yes the first surgery is already good look the next surgery is not good @@emilythompson3605
one surgery can really improve things for some people. we can't act like people don't get treated differently if they have a very large and deformed nose, for example. it just shouldn't become an addiction
@@emilythompson3605he was innocent tho.
@@emilythompson3605He was 100% innocent. Abuse doesn’t mean you become an abuser, you can actually become the exact opposite which is what happened with MJ. Every single evidence points to his innocence and his 4 accusers are all proven liars who couldn’t get one story straight, constantly contradicting themselves and only wanting money from him. He was undoubtedly one of the greatest human beings who has ever lived.
This guy talked elegantly and sympathetically.
He's a hybrid I'm convinced
It's because his dad told him he had a big nose and picked on him about that he's very sensitive person that was a mean to say !! Thats his son !! Did you watch the Jackson's the American Dream that'd actors doing a movie on their lives !! Then you can see the whole picture !! Good movie !!
He did it to look like Peter Pan he wanted to be like Peter Pan that's why he named his home Never Land Ranch !! Thats why I thought about it and put the 2 together !!
@@amandaohrstrom1754 Y VOS QUIÉN SOS??? ALGUNOS SERES NACIERON PARA DAR ARTE...OTROS PARA CRITICAR.
"This guy" ... give him more respect... He is a doctor.
When I clicked on this vid, I didn't expect to feel so much sadness. I grew up listening to him, my mom was a big fan, and I saw a lot of these changes and was aware of them over the years, but seeing his progression (digression?) like this really made it hit home how damaged he was. That was a man who was in a lot of emotional pain and tumult. It's heartbreaking.
Lisa Marie presley loved him for a time think she felt sorry for him
Right? This video made me sad
I'm with you. Coming to the end, what exactly ran through my mind was, "this is so sad" and not in a mocking way, I truly sympathize with what he went through. RIP MJ.
Reality hits so differently seeing this summary as an adult vs. trying to comprehend while growing up in parallel with his career. Or rather, NOT trying, as kids can be quite oblivious to fact vs. opinion vs. fiction.
I haven't red about his life but simply by osmosis i believe his father has some faults. This kid was a wonder . His singing is amazing and with a talent like his the road can be very tough. He needed a strong family and a father figure to act as a lighthouse. Fathers are often unaware how much damage they can cause in childs life not by just being aggressive or abusive but by simply being absent . Again i can be 100 % wrong I don't know.
Thank you doc, I never loved my large round nose before. But now knowing more about the structure of my nose I can only be happy and thankful for my potato nose. I can breathe amazingly and it holds a mask pretty well on place, my glasses too. I think I'll keep my nose just the way it is.
Lol
so good for you! We should appreciate our bodies for the amazing things they can do 😊
Girl I have huge wide nose!! Sometimes I’m like no I can’t!! But now I appreciate my feature! 🤣🤣
Sometimes my thoughts are exact as you, but then I realise that I don't care how my potato nose looks to me, I was worried that what others would say. Tbh I would rather be ugly than having endless plastic surgeries. I ain't dealing w all that pain for nothing😂
Bigger noses frame the face really well, and round noses soften the face. I really think those kinds of noses are underrepresented in media because they are so beautiful
Michael was truly bullied as a kid and then it went downhill. IMO he was the most beautiful during the BAD era 1986-1989. Thank you for approaching this topic so respectfully as you did!
You are a great physician!
He was so handsome before all of the surgeries, his natural look was just great!
It’s just really sad not one single person surrounded him was “brave” or truthful enough to tell him to take a step back and simply just rest. Instead people were treating him as this nonhuman creature only because he achieved something, like you said, bigger than life.
Yeah, sometimes we all just need a break.
I def agree but also...it's very difficult to "stand up to" someone as powerful as MJ. he (prob) surrounded himself w yes men/ppl that agreed w everything he said. & if someone didn't, or tried to tell him smthng he didn't want to hear, they were prob gone (kicked out of the inner circle).
@@virginiaelizabeth4577 yeah that’s also my first impression before I read more about what’s behind his corruptive system in the final years. I think it’s a gradual effect due to the fact that over the years there were too many people were trying to manipulate him into believing that they can “stand up for” him however relentlessly betrayed him in the end. If he had a better support system who is not bleeding him for every penny that he earned but just take care of him only for the sake of his own well being both mentally and physically, I don’t think Michael would turn out to be this fragile, easily triggered person. I also think the continued demand of changing his appearance is partially based on the significant lack of control over his own life too, along with his eating disorder, a powerless person would try to prove to himself that something is still within his own control even at the expense of hurting himself.
He lacked a real friend in his inner circle. A real friend would have said Wait, what you just said, does that make sense?"
@@eastlynburkholder3559 yeah like a friend who would feel relatable to his situation, but a person like that would have lots of business of their own to deal with at the first place, it’s tough
This was hard to watch. You wanted Michael to stop , wishfully, even though you knew the end result. To further amplify his insecurities, was vitilago. I have several family members who have this disorder and it be devastating. I can’t imagine the toll that must have taken on him. The pressure to hide it and have a perfect appearance. It’s honestly heartbreaking. Thank you for such a respectful video on this subject
Actually, I think he ended up with vitiligo because on a deep level he wanted to white/total white acceptance. (I'm one of those people who believes the universe grants your desires.) Sad 😥.
@@loriannrichardson7644 ermm, you don’t get an autoimmune disease because you want it
@@loriannrichardson7644 the use of bleaching creams can absolutely cause what looks like vitiligo.
@@sarat8577 maybe because you need it
MJ also had Lupus. Which affects the blood, lungs, and other parts of the body.
Michael was the epitome of cool during Thriller. The music, the look, the dancing. NO performer will ever reach that level again. ⭐
You think so! Well, i think its possible to get better than Michael. We should just try
Agree no other performer will match his talent
He would have been cool all the way if he just didn’t get any work done. He was super good looking in thriller.
@@antpoo His image and look were perfect during the time of Thriller. Once he rolled into Bad, things started to change. He looks completely "white" on the Bad cover.
HA HA
Michael did not need any plastic surgery, he was already handsome.
Facts🙄😏🤷🏿♀️🥺☹😭😑😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
Yes he was!!
I think what he did up until Thriller were flattering improvements but it all went a bit downhill after that, and I think certainly by the early 90s the doctors should’ve said no more, but I guess money talks 😬
I agree however Michael wanted to be a white person. He slowly transformed himself to appear physically white. Facial features, hair texture, skin, children…
When you tell someone they are already beautiful and they don't believe you 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😔
After 10 rhinoplasty surgeries, I'm amazed he didn't have skin necrosis. His money hungry father always looked for perfection in Michael. Sadly, it lead to body dysmorphia.
He did get necrosis. Michael had Lupus, which is an auto-immune disease that attacks the hosts body, and often prevents the body from healing from injuries and surgeries. It lead to a lot of scar tissue forming around the site of surgery, and tissue necrosis inside of his nose. After the first couple surgeries, and them finding out he has Lupus, the rest of the surgeries were trying to save his nose, and removing scar tissue to help him breathe.
Michael talked about his Lupus, and how he just wanted to look "normal" despite all of the degradation. The doctors tried as hard as they could to make his nose look presentable, as normal as they could.
@@NexTakenouchi Yes. It is a misconception he had body dysmorphia. Yes he had insecurities but he was struggling with actual disfiguring conditions. And he had unhealthy coping mechanisms for stress like anorexia & insomnia because of childhood PTSD. It was not body dysmorphia, he was trying to save his nose from the destruction lupus was causing. He did not intend it to be that way, he understood that it looked disfigured.
@@globalcitizenn ... but why did he relax his coarse/kinky hair and why did he get a cleft chin surgically done? You can't blame that on Lupus too.
@@AmyLeeAngelLove I mean he ended up turning white due to his vitiligo do you think the way he looked in his later life would make sense for him to have 4c hair if anything I think it would have looked odd on him, plus back in those days relaxed hair was the trend and style almost everyone back then would relax their hair it was big in the 80s/90s.
@@AmyLeeAngelLove
Michael didn't relax his hair, he wore wigs. The burn from that Pepsi commercial left him bald. Read about his autopsy.
Thank you Dr. Linkov for being respectful to Michael Jackson’s legacy & showing empathy. I learned so much from this video. You’re a great teacher!
Thanks!
You approached this with such sensitivity and compassion. I can tell you are wonderful person who has empathy and integrity
I love that you brought up the question and the reason *’WHY’.* This showing how sensitive you were about this topic. Plus showing how caring you are towards your viewers, as you know we would want to see the *what, when AND the why* side to Michael Jackson Nose Job Plastic Surgery actions.
Exactly. He has empathy and consideration in these videos.
Thank you, Dr. Linkov. This was both very enighting and respectful of Michael's memory and his legacy. As with the case for many African Americans, my nose is wide like Michael's original nose. Genetics are obviously at play. In my early 20s, I hated my nose. Self acceptance is the most important gift that we can ever give ourselves. It's heartbreaking that one of the most talented and greatest entertainers the world has ever known felt so flawed.
The weird thing is, I have a prominent, long, narrow nose, and I always hated it. I wanted a broader, shorter nose like Michael's original. You are so right that "self acceptance is the most important gift that we can ever give ourselves."
@@elissahunt ❤️💯
He can do rhinoplasties. But he needs to know when to stop.
Looking at your picture, you look very pretty.
I have zero remorse for him, he was a pedophile who sexually assaulted more than one person, he didn't deserve the platform he had and still has 🤮 he's a disgusting piece of shit
Thank you for being fair and empathetic to Michael. He was too sensitive for this life. He later regretted his surgeries, used to say that he looked like a lizard... 😢 It broke my heart seeing him covering his face every time people came near. 😪
The song "Vincent" by Don Mc Clean, always makes me think of Michael. "I could've told you, Michael* this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you."
He abused children
@@rebahensley5323 There were more sinister things that he lied about.
@@julielockett1812 His entire life was turned upside down during the trial, yet they found NO proof of any wrongdoing. The FBI was after him for 13 years. Don't you think they would have found out at least one bad thing during that time??? The never did. They published the documents on their site after Michael's death. It only proved he was innocent all along.
@G well, dude didn’t exactly have a childhood and probably never had much time to work on anything but his career
WOW !! The Peter pan Picture and your analysis.... cinched it all together ❤️ Explains everything about his looks. Never heard that mentioned as to his looks. Makes complete sense.
My heart still breaks for all he went through. 💔
You addressed this in such a professional manner, not judging, but providing insight. Excellent! Thank you!
I’m a big fan of Michael. I try to never judge him physically, because I know what it’s like to be insecure and to be ridiculed by family growing up. I judge by character. And that’s what you did. You handled it perfectly. Thank you
Darian Domonick Davis...I agree
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Uh huh. Where exactly on the bar do you place the pedophilia? It's amazing what you can get away with when you are immensely talented. I realize his upbringing likely contributed to a very high degree, but that line is one that should very much not be crossed...PERIOD. It really doesn't get any lower than that, IMO. And that is precisely the sort of thing that will make the next generation of those he 'touched' into the train wreck that his personal life was.
The real shame is that he needed help VERY VERY badly and obviously no one bothered to care enough to see that he received it. I suspect that as long as they were on the gravy train wagon all was good as far as they were concerned. It makes me sad, because I've heard a lot of people say he had a very kind heart, THAT part of his character was definitely on the plus side.
@@MrJdsenior sexual abuse survivors know who could be capable of committing these horrible crimes cause we not only saw but got to experience the typical profile of child molesters or pedophiles in general. And Michael Jackson doesn’t fit into the picture. Not at all. Not 1%. I’m a survivor of sexual abuse myself and studied every case and even Michael himself for years before I even became a fan. Back then it took a lot of time to research everything. Going through every page of the fbi files which they’ve released on their website,court documents,statements and i even studied the "victims" which refused to take polygraphs for years. In 2019,2020 and 21. When a judge for almost 40 years is saying that he’s disgusted by the lies you’re fabricating,you gotta tell there’s clearly something wrong. There are major evidence that only speaks for Michaels innocence,which the media of course covered as always when it comes to Michael. Same with the parents who went to jail for lying in court or stealing from Michael and blackmailing him for money. People like you never got the see the truth cause y’all don’t make any effort to dive into a subject more than you get to see in the news. His physical changes had absolutely nothing to do with fitting into the pedophile profile. Someone like Michael who have had no privacy at all and had cameras all over his ass,wouldn’t have gotten away with it if he would’ve been one. That makes no sense what you’re saying. That man was always on trap always exploring the world meeting people,went on tours,gave concerts went to charity galas,tribute shows,TV shows,Hospitals etc. he couldn’t even sit in his hotel without thousands of cameras lurking outside under his balcony. He couldn’t do anything. He haven’t had the time to do this shit y’all are accusing him of. 😂 the system wanted to destroy him with the allegations and the Santa Barbara DA even flew all around the world offering $200.000 to parents to lie about mj. When one parent wanted to tell Michael what’s going on after he called a friend and told him everything,he mysteriously got shot in front of his garage. They’ve tried to turn his biggest passion against him and when they couldn’t succeed,they had to get rid of him by killing Michael. Michael had the power no one else had. No president or government.
@denise mand exactly. Also the fact that he’s dead since 12 years now and there’s still nothing that says he did that and he can’t even defend himself. It’s so easy to convict a man of a crime when he’s dead. But SOMEHOW there’s nothing and I really mean NOTHING that says he was even capable of doing this.
@@MrJdsenior he didn’t do it! Do your research
i like that you touched on the psychological aspect of his journey with the surgeries. he was judged and mocked for so many years during his prime, which is so heartbreaking because he was clearly a man in pain and struggling with body dysmorphia.
@sayhitosteve, oh c'mon. You Americans are emotionally, psychologically and mentally fragile.
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Great video! It was sad that he was treated so poorly as a child, especially by his father! He was so talented and gave us so much joy!
His father... I hope he has guilt for treating his children like a golden ticket instead of children. Such an amazing spirit, amazing performer.. amazing human. It's terrible how that one second, that one Pepsi commercial, that one moment in time can change a life so drastically. So much respect for MJ.
When Michael's father was interviewed about alleged abuse he denied it and went on to talk about Michael having his brothers around and not being alone because of them. Kind of weirdly changing the subject
His dad died so he had his time to be honest long ago it’s sad in the world we live in now
Crazily enough, if his father didn’t impart all that a$$ whooping, he likely might not have been MJ. I don’t condone abuse, but there are pathways in life that come from pain and misery. We all would love to have a perfect life but that’s impossible.
Joe NEVER felt bad.
Selfish people don't feel bad for their evil.He was mean to their mother, what did he care about the children??Nothing!!!
I hated my original nose.. It became an obsession of mine. Even tho everyone told me there was nothing wrong with it. I ended up getting a rhinoplasty and got a perfect “scoop” button nose. And I became even more insecure. I ended up being diagnosed with body dysmorphic disorder. And I learned that with BDD plastic surgery makes your symptoms worse. So I understand how it can turned into a slippery slope. Because no matter how perfect your nose is, how many surgeries you get. It will NOT cure body dysmorphia. It has really fucked up my mental health. There was 2 years of my life that I wouldn’t leave the house or socialize with people (except for work). Because I genuinely thought I was deformed. It didn’t matter that people would now tell me my nose is perfect and they wish they had my nose. Because I don’t see it that way. But that’s apart of the mental illness. I feel for Michael Jackson. The surgeons should have stopped him from anymore procedures. I tried to go in for a revision but I had a very respectable and humane doctor that literally wouldn’t perform a revision rhinoplasty on me. And I’m glad he said no because it wouldn’t have cured my BDD and it couldn’ve eneded I’m a slippery slope.
@@SPZ909 I understand because of michael Jackson’s celebrity status he will always find another doctor. But there are a TON of cases where people with body dysmorphia keep getting surgeries and doctors keep doing it on them.. and they are just regular people. At some point, some of these doctors just need to say no
And some do! I had a surgeon straight up tell me no cause there was nothing wrong with my nose. And I’m just saying we need more people like that
and now u are ok ?
This is me with bdd minus the surgery. I fear surgery for the same reason because logically I just know it'd make things worse, not better, because surgeries always leave a mark and are imperfect. This is a mental disease that is very crippling. Thinking you are deformed when you know clearly that you are not, but can't stop having emotional reactions as if you are.
@@mariahr1773 That also happened to him with the prescription painkillers (and happened to Prince too). There were always doctors that were willing to prescribe him extremely dangerous painkillers. I mean at the end he was using something that is only used at hospitals where patients have machines constantly monitoring heart rate and breathing and where there are extreme guidelines about its administration
This was actually wayyy more intriguing that I expected it to be!!! I love how you explained the psychology behind everything as well. Amazing video!
Since no one seems to have mentioned it, I would just like to say what a beautiful conclusion. I think you hit the head on the nail with the comment of his stolen childhood. I literally thought you were quoting his (sadly not very known) song, Childhood. I recommend all who has watched this video to listen to it, it is truly amazing. Thank you!
Never heard of this song before. Thank you for mentioning it here.
As a physician, and someone who underwent rhinoplasty myself between med school and residency, I found this a fantastically detailed, educational and compassionate breakdown of a plastic surgery "journey." It's unfortunate that money really can buy you anything, even from supposedly ethical physicians. I say this bc at some point, it should have been abundantly clear that Jackson was struggling with significant body dysmorphic disorder. One can't help but wonder if, at some point, his money might have been better spent on therapy rather than surgery. And maybe he had therapy, I don't know. If so, it doesn't appear to have helped him accept his appearance.
One of the the things that would perhaps be worth mentioning as a cosmetic surgeon - and you seem like a skilled and thoughtful one - is the proportions of Jackson's face. I recall my surgeon and I chatting and him telling me that a lot of his job amounts to "managing expectations," ie. sharing with patients his professional opinion as to whether what they want is a) even possible, and b) advisable, based on their other facial features. So I imagine that, as a cosmetic surgeon, you have to think about what will "work," aesthetically speaking, with the person's overall appearance.
In looking at Jackson's face - which in this video is, at times, side-by-side with your own face, just as a general "face shape comparison"! - I was struck by how broad and square Jackson's jaw was. I think it would be fair to say that he had a comparatively large, broad face, which - though not desirable to him - made his larger, broader natural nose at least proportional to his face. As his nose narrows due to repeated revisions, his face (and especially his jaw) begins to appear disproportionately broad.
I really enjoyed this breakdown and look forward to seeing more of your videos, and hearing more of your thoughts, which strike me as balanced, considered and insightful, especially in this era of sensationalistic media. Subscribed.
Yeah I agree with the width of his nose and the shape of his jaws making his face look broader.
As a fellow MD, I can not agree more. Just spot on❗️
Best comment ❤️
I doubt he had any therapy. He had been picked up by a record label that ended up controlling him 100%. When he died, he was broke, but his estate ended up making money after his death ,so, the record label recovered their losses plus...... It is clear money is still being made, using his name and his performances. The entertainment industry is the investment of talented people who end up losing all their rights and often, their souls. That is Hollywood, in particular. The pop music industry is way up there....example, JZ and his wife who have become billionaires. Look it up and do your research......very .....entertaining......The "frequency" of their "music" and how it affects some people. It is not a positive influence. See where I am going ? It takes a little research, but not much and there it is !!!!! See what happens to that guy who dates one of the Jenner girls ? the "frequency" generated in that "concert" caused people to freak out and step over each other....I think 10 of them died. It has become very quiet lately. We hear nothing about it. Surprised ? not really. It will be snuffed...
That wonderful Jackson “broad and square” face is evident in many of them, especially Randy ! It is a beautiful mix of both parents, I think
He was handsome. I wish he could see what we all saw.
This man was living through so much pain.
I hope he found the peace in death that he didn’t find in life
I say this all the time. Michael was always gorgeous. I just wish he knew it.
You said that so beautifully 😍
SORRY...But $$$ cannot buy Salvation!
@@chadbest5411: Don't be fooled. Read the Bible. Don't wait till it's too late! GOD IS NOT MOCKED
I thought the same, he was gorgeous😞
As a huge Michael fan I want to thank you for talking about him with such respect... you rarely get that nowadays.
Great video! It is heartbreaking that a man with an endless amount of talent suffered so deeply on the inside.
This is heartbreaking 💔. Michael had his issues, but lack of talent wasn’t part of it. RIP Michael. You were dearly loved❣️
I don't know about plastic surgery, but I am a portrait artist. And I think Gary has a great face. Not many people can look so elegant with no hair, but Gary pulls it off. Not only does he have a great face, but a great voice.
Thank you, Gary, for your videos.
Dr Gary's so hot in his own way.
Dr. Gary has the PERFECT face for a renaissance portrait
@@MicarahTewers There’s no way the real Micarah is here 🙀
True .
Agree. 100%. Gary has a beautifully shaped head and very regular facial features.
Super glad I saw this! I broke my nose in a diving accident at 13. A lot of scar tissue formed and I had a huge noggen and couldn’t breathe well. But I was never upset about it and thought I looked fine. My divorced parents thought otherwise and coordinated (for like the only time in their lives) to get my rhinoplasty when I was old enough (the doc had me wait till I was 16 and my face had stopped growing). The surgery didn’t come out like the doc expected and he wanted to put me under again for a touch up. I was like, NO! I can breathe now, so thanks but no thanks. This compulsion to believe you are nothing but your physical body is such a huge cancer in our physical world. Breathe and BE happy, folks!! 🥰
There’s so much more to life- I deleted most social media, and I’ve never been happier. Found I was focusing too much on how I looked, but appearance is essentially a small aspect of what makes a person, and certainly not the most important
❤Inspiring. I admire your maturity. We need more of people like you in the world.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Thank you for being on michaels side and respecting his choices and speaking with compassion 🙏
He was so naturally handsome. So sad to watch him change this drastically. Regardless of their celebrity or “artist” status, it’s really disturbing that someone would agree to do these surgeries, in my opinion.
If you find diversity people attractive.
Just say you have daddy issues.
these surgeons are monsters and get paid way too much
I always wonder how well he would’ve aged if he didn’t get all those surgeries done
I blame you women 😡
I think it’s good for doctors to not only care about a paycheck. To ask questions about the reason for surgery and even go so far as to deny the surgery if they believe the patient suffers from dysmorphia.
Agreed. Though sometimes when patients are denied surgery they get very upset.
@@drgarylinkov Yet ppl like myself who need a hip surgery can’t get it cause I don’t have the money. But if I was rich they’d give me anything I want I’m sure right.
@@boundariessetinstone5893 Welcome to living in a capitalist society, you must be new here! 😂
Very impressive analysis. Dr. Linkov never disrespects the patient, in this case, Michael Jackson, but tells a cautionary tale that many of his colleagues would ignore for profit.
I saw your video on your alopecia. Having said that i think you look fabulous here. You have flawless skin and your head shape is so perfect.
Most children victim of CEN (childhood emotional neglect) are perfectionists as adults! When your family treat you with indifference and always invalidate your feelings, You start to believe no one will see any value in you, unless it's all perfect! It's sad, but his family didn't teach him that he should first learn to love himself and that his feelings were really important as a child!
MJ was not neglected. He was used and tortured. That is a lot worse.
I was never a huge fan, but just last week discovered there was a much older Jackson sister who had moderate success singing. Her son, a very handsome young singer and dancer Austin Brown committed suicide young. I wasconlybaware of the Jackson 5 and Janet. So tragedy is still going on in that talented family.
I myself had several cosmetic surgeries on my face over a period of 17 years and I can confirm, the foundation for a never-ending dissatisfaction with one's appearance is laid by psychological injuries in childhood.
Hello Dr. Gary. I enjoyed this one. I'm sure you've been told this before but there is something about you that is easy to trust. Never change that for anyone!
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Wow! I love the way you speak doctor. Thank you for explaining most of this. You're a smart guy.
I think the fact that he heavily contoured his nose with makeup which made it appear even narrower suggests that he really had mental struggles regarding his nose. I would think any makeup artist working on him would use makeup to make his nose appear more natural if left to their own devices.
The contouring was not to make it look narrow but to give it depth. It looked flat otherwise cause of the vitiligo & lupus. It was only for the stage. He had to create dimension that could be seen from far away.
@@globalcitizenn ahhgood take on this
:000 i really find prespective so interesting
This is the most ridiculous analysis I have ever seen.
Of course MJ had his nose done, not once, not twice, but....
The surgeon speculates only by pics, totally missing the effects of lighting , flesh(light), photoshopped photos, totally missed comparison of photos in 2009 with thousands of pics from 2005 (trial=day light), angels of photos... and all the previous years combine.
wth he means 1992-1995??? and at 15:15 with such pathetic comparison of 1975-2001 photos.... BUT 12:13 perfectly shows the 2005 nose as perfect. 10th surgery? nah...
In every year there are thousands of photos of MJ and the surgeon picked up only those generally available from tab mags and newspapers, which are specifically made to attract people and create a specific narrative = making Michael ugly.
Then he compares 1996-2001 noses... like... what? Seriously? Again, lets compare the very same nose in 2005 and 2009 with those from 1991/92/93
Its not like changing noses every year and during 2009 year MJ looked great and having sometimes bigger nose than the other noses before...
Its like conspiring about having a box full of noses or... that there were 5 different Michael Jacksons.
and then if his nose suffered such damage why after 2005 he looked great, if we can see really damaged noses of celebrities and weirdos (Botched show), so MJ had 10 surgeries and still the same nose without damage?
and there is one important problem...
MJ was such a non-private person, totally scanned by media and tabloid... so when, where and how he had a lot of spare time to do all the surgeries and nobody noticed and never reported about it if the media ppl knew everything better than anyone else?
at the end of speculations, the surgeon totally missed the point of the changes. its called VITILIGO.
Michael with vitiligo could have never been able to be a performer or an artist as a white black man with typical features of Black people aka African-American nose. Imagine a successful artist at the age of 22 knowing his career would be over because of changing of his skin color in a few years? MJ was not Lee Thomas. Google Lee Thomas.
(not only my oponion) the only option was to change his nose (as the fundamental feature) and "transform" himself into a new Michael Jackson, the artist, creation of himself ... like we all do know him since the Thriller era (1982).
The tabloidish speculations and rumours totally out of reality like MJ wanted to be less like his family??? huh?
The surgeon stopped analysing in 2002 and this is the end of the story???
OK...
btw, he had only one personal makeup artist, his best friend Keren Faye.
@@MJfansk I agree as a fan I don't think it's possible he had 10 whole surgeries. Especially between 2003 and 05 cause he was dealing with so much and was so heavily portrayed in the media. Also I don't think this doctor considered Michael's lupus also like you said can someone really have 10 surgeries and not have his nose collapse??? Also he doesn't consider the heavy contouring Michael did on his nose. I think Michael probably had between
3-5 nose jobs and the last few were definitely due to his Lupus and possibly some form of dysmorphia.
Also the angles are off cause in other images you can't see major changes in his nose as frequently as the doctor claims.
That's why he's turned to the side on the Thriller album cover.
What is interesting in the hair burning episode is that when Michael became aware that he was in danger, he called out to his brother Tito. Injured children call out to their protector, usually Mommy, but Michael called out for Tito. He wasn't looking for comfort from his parents.
So sad 😞 but sweet he was so close to Tito
So sad all the kids he diddled
@@f87115 That isn't true and anyone with half a brain that looks into it can figure that out!
@@kierj9858 soooo he built neverland and diddled kids
@@kierj9858 how? There's no proof either way. "ANyOnE WhO loOks iNtO it🤪" please stop
This video should be required watching for all rhinoplasty patients. My daughter wants a nose job. She gets to watch this tomorrow morning. Thanks Doc. ❤️
I have assisted plastic surgeons in nose jobs and they had a basic requirement....the patients had to want the procedure because they felt like ugly ducklings and that was a validated request. No teen wants to look like an ugly duck, however, if we heard a teen saying " I will attract boys that way or I will be more accepted in my group " . That was the red flag ! and we sent them to a shrink......telling their parents, they had to evaluate their kids. I remember one girl we did a rhinoplasty on and a little mento plasty ( chin) . She went from an unattractive girl with a big nose and a receding chin, to a gorgeous one, with a nice nose and chin ......The difference was awesome !. Life is easier for attractive people and we know this, as it is validated by statistics. If your daughter wants a nose job, save your money as insurance companies do not pay unless they have a deviated septum.....That will usually fly as an excuse. Check out with your plastic surgeon.
She needs to het the wrong boyfriend or husband and he will give her a free nose job for sure.
I agree with the comment below. I was once too the daughter who wanted a rhinoplasty since the beginning of my teens. There are reasons that will fizzle out with time and others that don't. I had the big, humpy and bulbous nose that didn't fit too well the rest of my features. I went to visit to a couple of surgeons, they both asked me personal questions to assess whether it was founded in the right reasons. I investigated myself, watched rhinoplasty videos. Still I was 100% sure that was what I wanted. I got it at the age of 19 and started to feel good about myself from then onwards. My self-steem improved a lot. I'm 32 now and don't regret it in the least. I identify with the nose I have now and not the one I had previously. I probably had body dysmorphia at some point, but luckily I didn't go on the road of further changing my image through any procedure. Have an honest conversation with your daughter and ask her how much her current nose affects her life in a negative way. If she's a sensible person, she'll know getting surgeries to fix every little thing isn't the best way.
I didn't like my nose but I didn't consider surgery to fix my deviated septum till I broke it, accidentally.
After surgery the doctor had trouble removing the aluminum splint & pryed it off with a quip. This left a permanent indent in my nose, like pig. Their solution to fixing it was a second surgery & pinching the nose so tight no air could enter. The 3rd revision took cartilage from my ear to rebuild the nose bridge. It doesn't lay flat. My nose is crooked & looks like a permanent zit is coming out where the cartlige sits higher than the rest.
People stare at it, not my eyes. I'm not going in for anymore surgery. I can breathe. I can't tell you what I'd give to have my original nose back.
@@brrjohnson8131 I’m really sorry that happened to you! I’d be afraid to get more surgeries too.
Gary. You are such a comfort to those even thinking of having any type of plastic surgery. Your reviews help one realize how natural beauty truly is just that!
Heartbreaking. Thank you for handling this respectfully. I feel so sorry for him.
I almost didn’t want to watch this because I figured you would be mean and make fun of him land exploit his image. I’m glad you showed it in a better view. I’m a huge fan of Michael Jackson and it’s nice that you added some phycology behind his reasoning without being cruel.
This is the most ridiculous analyse I have ever seen.
Of course MJ had his nose done, not once, not twice, but....
The surgeon speculates only by pics, totally missing the effects of lighting , flesh(light), photoshopped photos, totally missed comparison of photos in 2009 with thousands of pics from 2005 (trial=day light), angels of photos... and all the previous years combine.
wth he means 1992-1995??? and at 15:15 with such pathetic comparison of 1975-2001 photos.... BUT 12:13 perfectly shows the 2005 nose as perfect. 10th surgery? nah...
In every year there are thousands of photos of MJ and the surgeon picked up only those generally available from tab mags and newspapers, which are specifically made to attract people and create a specific narrative = making Michael ugly.
Then he compares 1996-2001 noses... like... what? Seriously? Again, lets compare the very same nose in 2005 and 2009 with those from 1991/92/93
Its not like changing noses every year and during 2009 year MJ looked great and having sometimes bigger nose than the other noses before...
Its like conspiring about having a box full of noses or... that there were 5 different Michael Jacksons.
and then if his nose suffered such damage why after 2005 he looked great, if we can see really damaged noses of celebrities and weirdos (Botched show), so MJ had 10 surgeries and still the same nose without damage?
and there is one important problem...
MJ was such a non-private person, totally scanned by media and tabloid... so when, where and how he had a lot of spare time to do all the surgeries and nobody noticed and never reported about it if the media ppl knew everything better than anyone else?
at the end of speculations, the surgeon totally missed the point of the changes. its called VITILIGO.
Michael with vitiligo could have never been able to be a performer or an artist as a white black man with typical features of Black people aka African-American nose. Imagine a successful artist at the age of 22 knowing his career would be over because of changing of his skin color in a few years? MJ was not Lee Thomas. Google Lee Thomas.
(not only my oponion) the only option was to change his nose (as the fundamental feature) and "transform" himself into a new Michael Jackson, the artist, creation of himself ... like we all do know him since the Thriller era (1982).
The tabloidish speculations and rumours totally out of reality like MJ wanted to be less like his family??? huh?
The surgeon stopped analysing in 2002 and this is the end of the story???
OK...
Brandon Penny, then bounce hater troll!
@@MJfansk he's literally a professional lol you just wasted your time writing your essay.
Why would he do that????? Girl bye.
@@MJfansk you're trying to be defensive even about what this surgeon didn't talk about. It's doesn't matter the year or the reason he did it, the bottom line is he did and I think this video is to hell those who are still alive, not to discredit MJ. You're just out of touch with your comment.
15:50 Michael said as much. There's a phone call where he says that he was happy with his surgeries for the most part (this was in the 90s I believe) because he wanted to look NOTHING like his father and his family. As someone who has experienced childhood trauma, I can relate. I have my family's nose and I have always wanted a nose job to get rid of this resemblance. I think racism in America added to this.
man this is so sad :( i can relate to that unfortunately
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Yeah ok. Blame random racism. Maybe you're just weak minded?? 🤔
How did racism possibly play into it?
Because it always is, just play the racism card.
@@h.j.7186yep. Welcome to America. If it's not about race it's about politics. 🤣🤣
You are the best, doctor ! Very nice to hear so much respect in analysing other's surgery plastic
You are extremely decent Dr who respects personal space. You explain it like a pro should do. Thank you Dr.
I think his nose was perfect for his face in the early 1980's.
I love Michael 💖
Same.
Yes he was perfect. Can watch him perform over & over. Loved him since Jacoson 5 days. RIP KING OF POP
Me too especially on his Off the wall album when they announced he made first 50m
He should have keep he's look like the Bad tour
His original nose was fine.
Incredibly creative and talented person who had deep emotional problems. Thank you for the gentle explanations and respect to him.
What a touching episode about the king of pop, MJ. I appreciate how you discuss the importance of plastic surgeons understanding the deep motivations behind their patients' desires, to prevent future regrets for both parties. Being a plastic surgeon involves addressing psychological aspects too. You're excellent, and you look fantastic, Dr. Linkov ! ❤
Today you would say he had Dysmorphobia. It's very sad that nobody stopped this development. This video was very respectfully made. Thank you for your sensibility. I have a form of Dysmorphobia myself and I understand how awful this disorder can make you feel. If I had money, I am not sure if I could resist.
13:30 that’s what he said right?
Body dysmorphia is a difficult to treat.Also mental health wasnt really huge topic in those years even now there are lots of people who dont realise they have something wrong how they think about things. Wish his plastic surgeon send him to therapy and psyciathrist before going for second surgery.
It's the money. You will always find a doctor who will do that...
body dysmorphia*
Well, just remember, the way you carry yourself, interact with others, etc., can really cover a multitude of physical imperfections. I once heard a girl talk about how every morning when she looked in the mirror she would just say "lookin' sexy", whether she felt it or not. And honestly, it's hard not to imagine the subtle changes in attitude and behavior that a habit like would tend to produce (if not done obsessively) being very attractive. This may be an oversimplification, but if you feel beautiful, you become beautiful. And you don't have to feel physically beautiful in terms of appearance for that to be true, necessarily. If you just go about with confidence that you have qualities and virtues that make you lovable and interesting, and worth having as a friend, I think it'll still greatly increase people's perception of beauty in you.
Dr Gary, you have such an eloquent and compassionate way of addressing Michael Jackson's surgery. I found your graph timeline of his surgeries to major life changes very informative.
I loved MJ. Glad this was such a respectful analysis. I wish he would’ve stopped after the first nose job in the 1970s. It fit his face and was in harmony with his other features. He also still had an ethnic looking nose and it didn’t scream plastic surgery.
I agree. He really was a handsome man.i think he had some sort of body dysphoria. And no one caught it
I thought the first one was perfect. He was gorgeous at that time. The second one didn't change much, but from then on it detracted from his looks instead of improving them. I was fairly certain by the third one he had demons, not surprised it went back to his childhood. So sad such a musical genius had to go through so much.
I think he lived a 100 years in his short 50 years double speed and made his exit, manslaughter or not. Imagine him alive today still struggling with everything from health to society. He would be miserable and struggling with every breath in absolute poor health. Already back in his teens and twenties, MJ had trouble breathing which affects singing and high energy dancing. He tried fixing it, the world and media called it a vain nose job - trivialized it.
Vocal and physical performers, especially high caliber types, can't afford breathing issues stemming from nose and throat. He came, he suffered, he performed, he gave and he left. I am not a fan but I just think he is better for it in spirit.
100%!!!💕
LaToya also looked best after her first nose job in my opinion. It is sad that she felt the need to keep messing with it.
Like others have stated, thank you for giving a respectful, but truthful analysis of Michael’s surgeries. ❤
Back in 2016, I was in a fatal car accident. If my profile picture still has me in a green shirt, that's what my nose looked like before the accident: long and pronounced. I loved my nose because it was like my father's nose, who died in the accident.
Unfortunately, my accident was so severe that I needed both a rhinoplasty and later on a septoplasty. I thought the septoasty would make my nose look closer to pre-accident, but found out it was only to help me breathe better (which is very important and functional!). On top of that, people would often tell me my new nose (small and petite with a curved in bridge) was "cuter" than my old nose. Honestly, it hurt. The accident had taken so much from me and my family. It even took my nose, one of the most defining features I had of my dad.
Over the years, I've grown to accept that this is "me" now, with the disabilities and limitations as well as the wisdom and tenacity. I also had/have body dysmorphia after the accident, but that was weight related. As a child, I was given nicknames for being super skinny and after the accident when I decided to lose weight again, I was afraid of becoming too skinny and turning into a stick... so I ate myself heavier again. Luckily, we finally figured out that I developed this dysmorphia and are working on healthy ways to cope. Yet I can't even imagine how Michael must have felt. Often I want my old nose back, but I haven't had any cosmetic surgeries after the accident.
We all have something we're fighting through. Try to remember that you're beautiful and if there's something you do need to or want to change, try to find a healthy way to do so.
One has to be gentle with oneself and that can be difficult. Self criticism can be harsh.
i’m sorry for your loss, and the accident. I’m glad you’re still with us. 🕊😔
Judging from that pic, your nose is nice.
@@peekaboots01 Thank you. :) If my profile picture is still me with short hair and a green shirt, that's what I looked like before the accident.
@@yvellebradley2502 Thank you, I've gotten a lot better with therapy and new, healthy relationships. But I still have to work on being kind to myself.
He was incredibly handsome as he was born and in 1980. Makes me sad that he kept going because it distorted his natural handsomeness. This is not a man that needed any surgery to improve his appearance. He was born with so much natural beauty. His nose was perfect. His skin colour was perfect. His eyes were perfect. Oh Michael just didn't see it. 💔
He was a gorgeous and charismatic child. As the youngest performer in his family, he was the star.
He had money he could do whatever the heck he wanted.
Michael Jackson actually had Lupus, which destroys your appearance that’s why he started to look different overall and have problems with his image
1980s he should have stopped! He looked great then !
Right? You see his early pics and there was nothing wrong with his appearance at all. It's really sad that he didn't see it
I just discovered your channel. My goodness, you are the epitome of a caring and loving individual. So respectful and understanding. I wish more love to you and your family.
This was a very respectful and insightful analysis. Thank you
I’m sure most of us can agree that he looked the best during the thriller era
Yeah, should have stopped at Thriller, still looked natural and fit his general public persona.
En 1993 estaba hermoso (Black and White era)
BAD era in my opinion
He looked great from the start. There was no reason that he needed to do anything. Even if he had vitiligo, we - as a society - should retrain our brains to not be so judgmental and value the beauty of a human rather than the standards that marketing and lust throws at us.
@@TexasFightTexas I honestly felt his original face was the most beautiful.
I think Michael looked his best in the early 80s during Thriller. When Bad came out and he looked white that's when the press started to harrass him.
I always say that too he looked great then
He had vitiligo
Thriller period was MJ's best look. According to the graph, it was his top peak regarding success.
@@juatinatemple1903 it's a side effect of skin bleaching
@@josephdockemeyer6782 i agree
The Peter Pan comparison really helped me to see what he was trying to achieve. Interesting, and kind of sad.
@@nmjime5560 i am not familiar with these mental conditions (dysmorphia, dysphoria) but are these brain malfunctions in the DNA that can be inherited?
@@nmjime5560 thank you very much for this!
@@nmjime5560 thank you for researching them...i hope this is not a bother.
@@nmjime5560 there has been studies done on different physcological issues and it has been found that THERE ARE MANY of these illnesses that are inherited. Some times they may skip a generation but they have been shown to definitely be inherited to some degree. Michael says he is a perfectionist. His dad was also a perfectionist and so may be others in his family. I wish he could have seen in himself what we saw in him...a great and kind hearted human being and a wonderful individual! It's a shame that we had to lose him to his addictions at such an early age but he will forever be in our hearts.
Wrong thats not what I saw🤣
YOU ARE A SPECIAL HUMAN BEING! HONEST! This was done with respect and NO BIAS! ❤❤❤❤❤
I'm so glad these videos exist. You have such a knack for teaching. I genuinely hope you continue to make these and teach us all so much more about surgery and how to help or respect our bodies as we go through our journies.
Same.. i love how the doctor add diagrams to explain
You’re glad there’s videos about artists that full on lie in the video and got the information from the press? Good job./s
@spaceyaiden I see you're going down the whole video comment section remarking to anyone who will listen about your favorite superstar and how this is all lies. Why not reach a broader audience and just make a video of your own with all of the facts you know then?
@@amberlightrunner4696 I don’t make UA-cam videos anymore. And it will reach 2 views if I do.
@@amberlightrunner4696 I do my work on TikTok
Correct, first time he broke his nose, but he figured he'd make it "cuter", because his father made fun of his "big nose". It didn't heal properly, and they didn't know why. If you look at the second pic in the second surgery, you can see the malar rash from his Lupus. His old doctor thought it was some form of acne (he did struggle with it when he was younger), and put him on lots of treatments that never worked. They didn't know he had Lupus until after his second surgery, and realized that's why he wasn't healing properly, and tons of scar tissue formed in his nose. After that, all surgery was to remove scar tissue, and necrotizing tissue, and is why his nose degraded so severely. It wasn't intentional.
Edit: Sorry, I'm kinda passionate when it comes to Lupus, and care deeply about Lupus survivors. I've seen what happens to people, in person, and how it kills. Surgery scars not healing, and getting worse. Losing hair. Renaud's phenomenon. Extreme sensitivity to limbs where touching anything causes terrible pain. Unable to breathe... all depending on where the Lupus would attack. It's such a serious one, and some people don't believe the Lupus sufferer is struggling with that.
My mom recently got diagnosed with Lupus...So far she hasn't had too many bad symptoms, but it's scary to think what might come of it in the future. Thank you for your post
@@melshortir I hope your mom does well!
@@NexTakenouchi thanks
Apparently he did not break his nose , this was a fake story confirmed by his own mother , he had he first nose job because he wanted a smaller nose , he should of stopped after that
You don't think MJ had intent to change his nasal features at all?
Such a sensitive subject and soo well handled. 10/10
Beautifully done video. A detailed analysis while maintaining respect and no judgment towards Michael Jackson. Professional video while very interesting and informative.
This was really a superb analysis, while still being respectful, but honest. Very well said Doc. Very well said.👍🏽
I love the respect, and non judgemental way the doctor analyzes the faces in his videos.
I love how kindedly, respectful and same time proffesional you spoke about his surgeries. You're a beautiful human being doc 😊🤗
Thank you for how respectful you talk about Michael Jackson, not so judgemental... The man was sick, Yes, made sick... And people exploited him for his sickness...