MUSTANG COYOTE SHOWDOWN: Gen 2 vs Gen 3 Bolt On Comparison!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2020
- Mustangs have a very special place in my life... not really. But honestly, the newer Mustang is a wonderful performance bargain. And with a few small modifications and a tune from Lund, we get to see some really amazing performance gains on both a Gen 2 and Gen 3 Mustang Coyote.
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Why are some camaro guys so toxic against mustangs lmao Ford Chevy and dodge all make badass v8 muscle/sports cars so why can’t we all get along
Coyotes are killing the game
It all comes down to personal preference. I prefer the Camaro because of it’s looks. The Mustang is a great car too. It depends on how much you can afford to spend on upgrades. Great video!
Great work CSP team! Thanks for the reliable work, professionalism and great customer service! Alex was great keeping me up to date and setting the right expectations. Definitely would bring my Stang back for future up grades. Thanks again!
Professionalism?... Lol 😆😆😆😆
Amazing 👏..thanks guys
The disclaimer 😂 you guys are great 😄
Smart move! Love all fast cars and always watched your anyway but now just adds a little more excitement lol
You can't beat mustang. Bought a Lebanon ford '18 stage 2 Whipple 10R80 for $42k. Spent $1000 on suspension and brakes. It's a road course monster. I'd love a ZL1 but I can work on my car and it's only going to get faster after my Whipple warranty expires. Can't wait.
What did you do to the suspension
@@aronicerda520 put in a Steeda stop the hop irs bushings and lockouts. Also dual rate springs and adj shocks. K-Brace as well. Brembo brakes and bigger rotors
@@thereissomecoolstuff how was the handling after that
@@aronicerda520 it's a race car. I can't drive it to its full capability. I also put GT350 wheels and tires on it. It's amazing for $50k.
I got a 1991 firebird can you guys do a full motor swap and tune I live in the WestChester area?
I like the sound of the first car. No X or H pipe sounds awesome with the bottle mufflers at the front like that. I'm a die-hard LS guy, but I won't deny the Coyote. A VVT delete, Prolite flywheel, and some nice cams are all it needs. Maybe an all-spherical suspension conversion at some point...
VVT is the dumbest thing ever. This thing makes all the power on all the rpm because of the VVT. Boost or NA. ITs like removing Vtec from a honda. You're missing out all the fun
@@TierOperator VVT allows us to get great low RPM torque and still pass emissions without a rough idle. If you want a smooth boulevard cruiser, yes, keep the VVT. If you're going to rev the absolute crap out of your engine, then pick the cams that suit your operating range, lock them solid and commit to its purpose. Does that sound unreasonable to you?
Aye im a GM guy but mustangs do make power💯🔥
That Intro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nice!! Very entertaining... :-)
I would like to see a comparison between coyote engine and lt1 (camaro corvettes) with Fbo 👌🏻
Editing and sound levels are a lot better in this video.
That lanternfly tho....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm a GM guy and I'd like to see more Mustang videos!! Better than the boss man : )
Where are you guy's located it at?? Looking for someone to work on my Mustang..
One thing I did notice is that both mustang weren’t performance packs so the rear gearing is way different,
What rear gear is in the '18? I had just enough time to get more coffee and come back before those pulls ended. Probably great if you're doing salt flat runs.
3:73s I believe
Also the new 6 speed has taller 3rd and 4th gears, you’ll never use 5th unless you want to die lol
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think they dynod the gen 3 in the wrong gear. One-one is different from 2018 and up. Those gen 3 numbers are very low.
Why the cheap exhaust clamps on those cutouts? Everything else looked great until those.
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My FBO gen 3 is on E and made 492 whp on an 85 degree day w 85+% humidity. O and its through a 10r80. Lund is the BEST
What mods exactly?
@@MrAdrian13 JLT CAI, Stainless works Headers w high flow cats, borla atak 3in cat back, and a bunch of suspension stuff. Now I will say is I personally dont believe the number I think more near 475ish but it was on a dyno jet so idk
@@backwoods5oh seems low for gen 3. Thats not fbo either. Lots of gen 3 will make 470-480 e85 tune only
@@nismoaltima1326 no they don't LMAO
@@Ws6Ms sure does feel like it. I beat fbo 6th Camaros with e85 tune only 😂😂
Tired of turning the volume up and down in the beginning of the video. The end with Andrew seemed like a finger was over the mic.
Hey man extreme turbo just boosted a c8 ran a 9.95 at 144mph u should check it out I just seen it
You know mustang rule bro lol 5.0 out running those 5.7 ,392 with boost those hell kittens too
Final some real cars at CSP. Good call on working / offering mods to Mustang owners. I mean the Camaro is canceled....again. We don’t need lots of cubes...little 302 with forced induction is plenty.
To me mustangs are all we have left. So sad to say. We lived in a awesome era to be around the c7 the zl11le and all these awesome mustangs. Mustang I agree is best bang for the big c8 with stock bottom ends running 7s and 8s in the 1/4. Now with the camaro going bye bye and the c8 becoming a car we can’t build in our driveway like prior vettes and only getting worse with the next variants of vettes. If the electric c8 is anything less me other half electric. It becomes almost impossible to build off. It’s crazy how many dodge and Chevy guys are cross shopping to mustangs. I’ve seen so many c8s and zl11le trades for gt500s and regular mustangs it’s mind boggling
Don't worry about it. Internal Combustion isn't going anywhere. The Methanol Economy is GOING to happen. Elon Musk even said that EV's won't change the whole climate BS. Look at Boeing, CFM, Maersk, Rolls Royce Trent, Porsche. They all want Synfuels. Stupid people just look up nonsense on the internet and regurgitate information, but when they get down to the nitty gritty, they either wimp out, or burn down. All kinds of folks's stuff is gonna get smoked, but at the end of the day, the stuff worth keeping is gonna stay. Basic sedans and luxury junk are gonna end up electric, because who cares, the owner will want next years model anyway. Even NOAA charts confirm that the earth cycles more carbon than mankind does. We just keep adding it.
... I hate to admit that the Mustang for 2016 to 2020 is the better platform for getting ridiculous numbers out of. If only you didn't need pistons to make the Camaro reliable at similar power... but this is the world we live in.
2015 to 2023 👍🏼 s550 series.
I went to ATC!
Why is the interior always so nice in a Mustang? Because Virginia Slims don’t burn big holes.
It would have been a better comparison if you did the same mods on both mustangs
Nutting for a.mustang to be scared about these just Camaros dats all nutting intimidating .
Gen 3s have a good bit more compression and a slightly larger bore.
Mustangs have been great values for years. I paid $10k for my 87 Mustang new, and it could hang with many cars costing thousands more. I hate that my 16 GT premium PP cost 3.7 times as much, but it is a much better car for daily driving.
$10K? The GTs were in the $14K-$15K depending on options. Was it a stripped-down LX?
@@Sean_Farmer yes, 87 5.0 LX. I could not afford a GT and I didn't really want one either. I just pulled the window sticker and it was $11,737. The only options were the 5.0L engine package and AC. They had a $600? rebate and I got a few hundred off the price, so it was actually more like $10,500 or so. Great deal for a car I drove for 24 years and 306k miles!
@@trbstang, I bought an '88 GT in Oct. '87. It had every option except T tops (it had a sunroof). It was $15,400.
The funny thing is that it was faster than every stock Mustang, save for one. That car and mine were dead even. You may have heard of it if you followed Muscle Mustang and Fast Fords magazine back then. Ed Smith's car was the fasted stock engined Mustang for a while.
www.mustangandfords.com/features/1504-historical-fox-body-drag-race-ford-mustang-photos/photo-06.html
@@Sean_Farmer nice! I test drove a loaded 86 GT that I could have bought for around $12k, but I just like the newer cars better. And I'm sure I've read about that car. I have all of the mags from back then that had Mustang content. I enjoyed following Steve Collison and Neil Van Oppre and the others in their drag racing adventures. I never took mine to the track as I was a poor married 22 yr old college student and couldn't afford to break anything! Mine was basically a twin to Neil's, but it now has a black leather interior with Bullitt brakes and wheels. It has been sitting for 9 years with a broken crank, but a new rebuilt engine is almost ready for installation once I clean up the engine bay.
@@trbstang, it's great that you still have yours. Sounds like a nice car. I used to have all those mags too but in one of my moves I decided to get rid of them all. I had mags from '82 thru '07. BTW, I'm with you as far as the newer ones go.
I had planned to get a new Stang, until the C8 came out...dammit.
I don't think any Mustang is worried about slowmeros...just think what it would be like if Ford used the 6.2.
Whats that....a blue black or silver Mustang with black rims and either a Borla or Rousch exhaust? Must be because everybody has the same look and sound. They all look the same and sound the same. I dont give a second look because you will see another one in a min or so.
Edgy
432 up ..382 torque
I would not have a gm Camaro guy working on my car or doing a tune. They mite sabatage it lmfaooo.
I blame this all on Alex.
Is there a reason you spend so much on Kooks headers? Texas Speed are less expensive and just as good if not better, IMO.
With as much love as I have for TSP, and you guys know I do, I have to admit that the American made Kooks are of higher quality with better fitment consistency across all their platforms. You guys know I'll call Kooks out on bullshit though too lol
@@completestreetperformance that's a good answer and can respect that.
MUSTANG your choice between a 4 cyl fart box to a 8 cyl monster. To bad the 6 spd transmission sucks.
Throw in a tremec or 10r80 from a wreck yard and 💥 boom .
everyone who has a camaro needs to do something to keep up with the mustangs.
Great video Ford powered forever baby keep on pulling the knot out of them boties and the horns off them mopars l love it
The guy in the white shirt had to shut the video off cause of that guy
For owners, go slow on these bolt-ons. Remember the after-market is big business and they'll take your money even if your engine goes Kaboom. Better to let tuners and speedshops mess with their own cars and take all the risks. Then you can creep in and make smart choices.
He said "F stance" ... I'm offended like a snowflake in summer.
At least you didn't have to say the M word ... lmao
The main difference between Gen 2 and Gen 3 coyotes is the intake manifold. The Gen 2 manifold is trash and leaves a lot on the table which is why after you swapped it for a 2018 ported manifold with bolt ons you made as much as the FBO Gen 3 coyote.
Or the compression ratio and direct injection aswell as the gen3 having way better flowing heads.
@@triston2735 Ya those all have subtle differences, but the biggest difference in HP is in the manifolds. 2022 Gen 3s actually went back to the Gen 2 compression ratio, interestingly enough.
@@jeoffbenzos4959 Don’t know where you are getting the info on compression ratio. 2022 runs a gen 3 coyote which has 12:1 compression. Can’t find anywhere saying otherwise and part numbers are all the same.
@@triston2735 ford’s website under specs -> fuel and consumption highlights
@@jeoffbenzos4959 Ford website is wrong. If you check technical spec and owners manual it’s 12:1.
Ford lists Mach 1 compression ratio as 11:1 but the owner manual and tech specs say 12:1. I highly doubt ford changed the compression ratio and it looks to be an error on their website.
Who's the clown throwing up coffee! If he's an owner of your shop, you guys are doomed. I don't think real men want a buffoon working on their cars but you do you....
Ha ha ha is that because the camaro is dieing?
Gay pride on the channel, nice.
Take the money that was spent on the Twin turbo C8. Spend that on a Mustang with twin turbos. It will run circles around that C8. Case in point... Stock motor Mustang with twin turbos runs a 7.9 at 170mph.... That should be what is making you puke 🤮 Lmao!!!!
Yeah but then you are still in a mustang
I think all 3 are awesome cars in their own right. Even the boats mopar produces. But I wanna see what the c8 does once the ecm can actually be tuned.
But how do you stop the mustang from crashing?
@@uvraise turn the power level down to a Chevy. 😆
@@twinturbomustang781 regardless Tesla will crush you both ... lmao 🤣 🤣 🤣
Judging by this video....smh...Definitely not a shop or video to take seriously... unless you need a bike inner tube patched...and I'm not a mustang guy.
Just wait until it has a mechanical problem which will be very soon and all that money you'll have to spend to fix it.
Stopped watching when I saw you bought a tesla🤷♂️ can't support someone who supports the enemy
Everybody has a mustang, l had three myself. Got raid of mine (mustang's) and bought (ordered)a 2017 and 2028 2ss Camaro, best move I ever made. The Camaro is a better looking car were the mustang looks like a import. Unlike the mustang you do NOT have to put a ton of bolt ons to make it go fast,Remember kids(that's who owns most of them)there is no replacement for displacement and if you do not understand that statement maybe you should own a mustang.
Yeah the 2028 camaro is pretty cool
Your poor camaro is being discontinued 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲
I almost threw up after you said Mustangs were pretty good cars.