Know what would be cool is to see the customers driving impressions after they get the car back. Ppl like to see the reactions of stuff like this. I know not every car needs a customer opinion but the ones going up 100hp+ would be cool to see street reactions.
I really enjoy these videos .. I wish you guys could do more detailed installation videos that take us through the process in more detail. Also, I want that guy in the beard working on the torque tube to work on my car. I love how meticulous he is ... how careful and how clean his work is. Too bad you guys are clear across the country. My 1997 Trans Am would love an upgrade
I would love to put whipple on my vette but I'm not to sure with cutting on the wiper cowl. The tvs2650 seems like it is more efficient but doesn't have option for port injection. Both are great blowers though.
JWP I’m not accusing the shop of anything. I believe the car may have been tinkered with before on the ECU end of things and the owner wasn’t completely forthcoming with that information. I spoke with a GM engineer IN PERSON at the hot rod power tour where that CAI was being showcased at the Chevy performance tent since I own a 6th gen Camaro SS and he told me that while that part decreased air flow restriction by 17% , 0 hp is what I could expect to gain on that bolt on alone.
I love all of the UA-cam mechanics and experts in here chiming in on shit they have no idea about. If all of y’all are so smart why don’t you open your own shop instead of wasting time giving people your “advice”
Ima get a whipple supercharger for my 2019 Camaro ss I was wondering what parts am I going to have to upgrade so the car can handle the power or can the stock ss take that type of power?
I would like to add a supercharger to my Camaro . It already has a cam package with the headers and 3" borla exhaust . What's the max boost you would recommend on the bottom end .
Can you have a whipple supercharger with a CAI from cold air inductions? Or which cold air intake besides factory works with whipple supercharger? Thanks so much, Bill
That Gen 6 Camaro made a lot of power from the GM cold air intake. Once that kid forges the bottom end. That car will make great power. To bad it wasn't Kong's 2650.
SS needs forged internals to handle any more power. Coyote can go up way higher without forged internals. BUT coyotes are also infamous for breaking, just look at mustang youtubers. Would one rather have better reliability or cheaper boost potential.
Thats because a lot of UA-camrs with Mustangs are morons and dont do shit the RIGHT way lol. Have to not go over the limits of certain setups on certain fuel. My 2015 stayed alive for 3 years with 715whp on straight 93, bone stock engine, with a baby 2.3 TVS. I sold the car to my friend and its still going. Even the bone stock MT82 trans lol.
V3 would be sick dude from Houston House Of Power has the fastest v3 and that was on a built 427 -F1-x now he has TT and that shit rips but his TT 18 mustang and TT 427 C7 are nasty af to 😂😂
I have a 2016 ss with a edelbrock 2650 and headers and a big gulp cold air intake. Its cool but not enough. Dont know what to do next. Fuel pump and retune?
I was expecting the 2.9L Whipple to add more power on that SS considering the headers and cats. My TRD 1.9L Magnussen makes a lot of power and was considering a swap to Whipple for its extra liter and lower heat. Like to see comparo of the two.
I was wondering what the economics of putting a Whipple on an SS would be. I'd have gone for the forged bottom end as well, though. Even with the added expense, I would think it would still be cheaper than a ZL1.
@@Ladco77 ZL1 is more than that though... ZL1 has a wide body, the E-LSD, etc. Etc. , I think if you take a stock ZL1 and simply do a few mods like Kooks Long Tube headers, a smaller pulley, Roto Fab Big Gulp and a few other upgrades and you'll have an easy 800 Hp monster!!! I currently own a 2017 SS and will be trading it in on a ZL1 instead of building the SS... probably get this shop to do work on it
@@ParissaKhoury Very true. You'd probably want to start with an SS 1LE to get close to the other ZL1 equipment, but I was referring only to the drivetrain. But you can add a lot of mods for the additional cost of a ZL1 compared to buying a ZL1 then taking off parts you just paid extra for to add mods anyway.
@@jeremyleftwich1309 just wondering bc i just put a whipple on my stock 18 mustang gt a10 and it made 650 with whipple tune. would be over 700 with tune and catless.
Those results for a whipple are terrible. whipple on a coyote makes wayyyyyyy more like 150hp more. That camaro should make 650wheel on pump easily. Hell Paxton/vortech on a coyote make 650 wheel on pump LOL!
Yes but it’s much easier to cam a Camaro, there’s something up with the mustangs and cans don’t give them big gains. A 10 speed ss with cams / headers/ e85/whipple is destroying any mustang
Close that hood RPM. Proper real dynos are done "hood closed". Do you drive "open hood"? No. I hope not. So why dyno that way. It doesn't simulate driving it simulates being parked at a gathering, worthless. And to the SS owner, do not push your LS3, sorry new version is LT1, (same engine with a few updates), past 580 rwhp if you want daily reliability. I have seen far to many of these 6.2's since 2009 blow with 600 rwhp-630 rwhp. Build the motor then you will have a 775 rwhp capable car.
Can't really do that unless you've got enough airflow on the front of the car to simulate real road conditions. And 99% of the dyno installations in the aftermarket world _don't_ have enough airflow for that. So you open the hood to improve airflow with the fans you have. Most chassis dynos don't come close to approximating the real world, but a good tuner knows the relationship between their dyno and how cars perform on the street. Based upon RPM's track results, Fran's technique is working fine.
Know what would be cool is to see the customers driving impressions after they get the car back. Ppl like to see the reactions of stuff like this. I know not every car needs a customer opinion but the ones going up 100hp+ would be cool to see street reactions.
Matt's impression of Steve LOL @10:15
Lol! "Nothing's changed in 11.5 hours" really hit a nerve.
That white ZR1 is f'ing perfection!
Dude that Akrapovic exhaust sounds amazing. Wish they made exhaust for the 4th gen GTO
@@ExtinctLS1GTO That it does! I'm a Ford guy but the ZR1 is just hard to beat, Especially a tastefully modded white one.
I really love the look of the Gen 2 Coupe CTS-V.
“Don’t put that in there, my mom watches this.” -Matt 😂🤣😂😅
I really enjoy these videos .. I wish you guys could do more detailed installation videos that take us through the process in more detail. Also, I want that guy in the beard working on the torque tube to work on my car. I love how meticulous he is ... how careful and how clean his work is. Too bad you guys are clear across the country. My 1997 Trans Am would love an upgrade
Lol I agree with Fran, I would LOVE to have a V3 too!👍
I have a v3 and it's so much fun. Get one you will love it. I am hoping Kong makes a lt4 2650 one day.
Would like to see comparison of the Maggie tvs2650 vs whipple 2.9
Me too. I have the TVS2650 The Whipple seems to make good power.
I would love to put whipple on my vette but I'm not to sure with cutting on the wiper cowl. The tvs2650 seems like it is more efficient but doesn't have option for port injection. Both are great blowers though.
2.9 Whipple barely keep up with Maggie heartbeat 2300., 2650 Maggie is in another league.
I think whipple Over exaggerated there blower a bit
I can’t wait till I can afford to do this
6:24 yes Fran So do I. Maybe I'll have to get a Gen 2 first in a coupe then the Gen 3 Full 4 door.
I’m really liking these Vids on Sunday. 👍🏽
Man I need that GM intake for my car. That was way higher of a baseline than I thought it would be.
That's a cold air inductions intake not a gm intake
TheGjergj79 I’m aware, however, GM will sell it, install it, and honor the factory warranty.
@@snoopergnar3719 yes i know
Why there is no supercharger whine??? :/
Stock fuel system on that SS? Is that why they were trying to keep the boost low?
What did chevy improved on this 2018 camaro over the 2015 one that has less power but same engine?
They are different engines
that shop is serious business
So the GM cold air intake must be one of the best bang for buck camaro mods on the market, 441 rwhp stock? Something is fishy here.
Some Dude it’s basically the cold air inductions intake it works very well.
JWP I’m not accusing the shop of anything. I believe the car may have been tinkered with before on the ECU end of things and the owner wasn’t completely forthcoming with that information. I spoke with a GM engineer IN PERSON at the hot rod power tour where that CAI was being showcased at the Chevy performance tent since I own a 6th gen Camaro SS and he told me that while that part decreased air flow restriction by 17% , 0 hp is what I could expect to gain on that bolt on alone.
@@somedude7184 You are right plus it's a manual. I've seen most stock manuals make around 430, 420 ish so it's not that surprising
@@somedude7184 I have a 5th gen with a CAI and long tube headers getting 367 whp, so I'm looking at my dyno readout going WTF
The stock 18 and up claim 455hp. So 441 isn't fishy at all.
I love all of the UA-cam mechanics and experts in here chiming in on shit they have no idea about. If all of y’all are so smart why don’t you open your own shop instead of wasting time giving people your “advice”
Ima get a whipple supercharger for my 2019 Camaro ss I was wondering what parts am I going to have to upgrade so the car can handle the power or can the stock ss take that type of power?
Union Heritage Fights Low boost 6-8lbs won’t need to upgrade anything from what I hear. More boost then need-piston kit, fuel pump, and injectors
@@ParissaKhoury Idk about a cam, basically just gonna flatten your fuel economy..., maybe get a freaking catch can or new intake atleast
what's the purpose of the torque tube, compared to just a driveshaft ??
@bobwatters I got ya, didnt think about that. thanks!
I would like to add a supercharger to my Camaro . It already has a cam package with the headers and 3" borla exhaust . What's the max boost you would recommend on the bottom end .
What is the blue film you guys use to cover the fenders?
race-proven-motorsports.myshopify.com/products/blue-fender-wrap-24-x-200
Matt's impression of Steve makes him look like Herbert the Pervert from Family Guy.
did the hood actually close all the way?
Can you have a whipple supercharger with a CAI from cold air inductions? Or which cold air intake besides factory works with whipple supercharger? Thanks so much, Bill
Probably RotoFab.
Any chance you can tell me the engine dressing used on Whipple Camaro?
13:33 thanks!
Can you throw a hellcat blower on a lt1?
Great job fellas!!
I was always under the impression LS1 cannot take a 2.9 Whipple without changing internals or you’ll bend rods or crack pistons ?
This isn’t an Ls1
@@RaceProvenMotorsports Is it the LT1?
I love it my guys rpm keep up the work and love video video 💯💯💯💯👍and I love Camaro lot
where is the address I need to put a super charger to my camaro ss
What whipple supercharger is this ?
Does your buddies plate on the CTV-S means he's an electrician, just wondering how that relates
cold air intake only and it made 441whp that’s insane
It is insane. My cammed ls3 is only 35 hp more
@16:20 that driveshaft... NEED!
Where you'll located
What's that set up gonna cost?
That Gen 6 Camaro made a lot of power from the GM cold air intake. Once that kid forges the bottom end. That car will make great power. To bad it wasn't Kong's 2650.
440 at the wheels with just an intake? Or is that intake + tune?
Manuals have less parasidic losses
LIKE A BLISTER SHOWS UP WHEN THE WORKS DONE
Did the Gm intake have the calibration on the first dyno?
Try to get a base LT1 v8 Camaro in there and boost it haha I’m considering buying one
how would that be any different than what they just did?
Don't buy an automatic one unless it has the 10 speed.
Army165 there’s nothing wrong with the 8 speed
Jesse Murray I want to hear their opinion on it. Is that not allowed??
I’m just not sure what the difference would be. You want them to do exactly what they just did....
How much was that setup
the guy with the beard works kinda sloppy, put some love into it bruh
Because I dont know. When you say x% E what are you talking about?
Ethanol content in the fuel
Thank you!
Love to bring my charger out to this shop one day, maybe they can make it faster!
We are a late model GM shop, so we don't work on Dodges
@@RaceProvenMotorsportswho drives a mopar ? GM all day💯🔥
SS needs forged internals to handle any more power. Coyote can go up way higher without forged internals. BUT coyotes are also infamous for breaking, just look at mustang youtubers. Would one rather have better reliability or cheaper boost potential.
Thats because a lot of UA-camrs with Mustangs are morons and dont do shit the RIGHT way lol. Have to not go over the limits of certain setups on certain fuel. My 2015 stayed alive for 3 years with 715whp on straight 93, bone stock engine, with a baby 2.3 TVS. I sold the car to my friend and its still going. Even the bone stock MT82 trans lol.
Paul Monico wheres it at now cause 3 years aint shit
EB SSCamG6 you’re right. That customer would have been better off spending the money on a cam, heads, internals, etc.
Yummy, a "Suppercharger".... :-)
2:33 paintball reference? World Cup?
V3 would be sick dude from Houston House Of Power has the fastest v3 and that was on a built 427 -F1-x now he has TT and that shit rips but his TT 18 mustang and TT 427 C7 are nasty af to 😂😂
Nice
Why is the guy always on his phone checking FaceBook, Twitter, etc. while he is tuning?
27 secs not bad
Too bad, so sad. It's 80 degrees in Miami Florida.😎😎
Hey dad
You got a cool dad hope you become like him or even better than him
I was expecting better numbers out of the black camaro. I beat them numbers and I’m Cali smog legal. Edelbrock 2650 is key.
I have a 2016 ss with a edelbrock 2650 and headers and a big gulp cold air intake. Its cool but not enough. Dont know what to do next. Fuel pump and retune?
@@therealMFfeelyaheard cam/heads/fuel
@@haussman242 yeah just decided to do a cam. Maybe the fuel pump too.
I have a 2019 1ss looking to get the whipple.. do I just need to upgrade the headers, exhaust and get a tuning for this to be good?
I was expecting the 2.9L Whipple to add more power on that SS considering the headers and cats. My TRD 1.9L Magnussen makes a lot of power and was considering a swap to Whipple for its extra liter and lower heat. Like to see comparo of the two.
Nice!!
I wonder the ss owner didnt buy a zl1
Maybe didn’t wanna drop another 20k?
I was wondering what the economics of putting a Whipple on an SS would be. I'd have gone for the forged bottom end as well, though. Even with the added expense, I would think it would still be cheaper than a ZL1.
@@Ladco77 ZL1 is more than that though... ZL1 has a wide body, the E-LSD, etc. Etc. , I think if you take a stock ZL1 and simply do a few mods like Kooks Long Tube headers, a smaller pulley, Roto Fab Big Gulp and a few other upgrades and you'll have an easy 800 Hp monster!!! I currently own a 2017 SS and will be trading it in on a ZL1 instead of building the SS... probably get this shop to do work on it
@@ParissaKhoury Very true. You'd probably want to start with an SS 1LE to get close to the other ZL1 equipment, but I was referring only to the drivetrain. But you can add a lot of mods for the additional cost of a ZL1 compared to buying a ZL1 then taking off parts you just paid extra for to add mods anyway.
@@Ladco77 yes, I get what you're saying
Vette "keeps trashing 3rd gear for some unknown reason."
Possible Translation: The driver keeps shifting shitty into 3rd on hard pulls.
You can twin tubo charge the ford 4L V6 and with a injector change and get over 600hp with nitrous over 1000.
🤡
Your guys dyno reads hella high...
hahaha ok
Lit 🔥
That dyno is off that whp is what they make at the crank
Customer drops half the value of the car on performance upgrades, and ya'll scared of a couple more psi and nerf his hp gain. SMH
25 year old movie reference at 5:04
Pain.
Bleh, 2018 ss shoulda done bottom end for how much money into the blower. H/C woulda made same power
Lol just wait for me when I get more money
The guy with the camera talks too fucking much. I wouldn't have that guy near me while I worked. lol.
👍🏻
All that to make 580? Seems like waste. What the limiting factor here engine can’t handle more power?
LT1 Pistons
Internals are not forged. They can't handle the boost that's why they changed the pulley to lower the boost.
Lt1 pistons and are the weak points
danderson071588 a blower is prob the best bang for the buck on any of these cars. You can always do more later.
@@jeremyleftwich1309 just wondering bc i just put a whipple on my stock 18 mustang gt a10 and it made 650 with whipple tune. would be over 700 with tune and catless.
coyote makes over 700 on a gen 5 whipple..lol
Then shits out the opgs
zenithskull 😂👌🏾
zenithskull that’s why you upgrade them? 🤷🏾♂️
Right under 600 with a gen5 whipple is terrible!
With what size pulley?
Yawn, what a cute video
Those results for a whipple are terrible. whipple on a coyote makes wayyyyyyy more like 150hp more. That camaro should make 650wheel on pump easily. Hell Paxton/vortech on a coyote make 650 wheel on pump LOL!
Yes but it’s much easier to cam a Camaro, there’s something up with the mustangs and cans don’t give them big gains. A 10 speed ss with cams / headers/ e85/whipple is destroying any mustang
Lol. It's still a girl car!
Close that hood RPM. Proper real dynos are done "hood closed". Do you drive "open hood"? No. I hope not. So why dyno that way. It doesn't simulate driving it simulates being parked at a gathering, worthless. And to the SS owner, do not push your LS3, sorry new version is LT1, (same engine with a few updates), past 580 rwhp if you want daily reliability. I have seen far to many of these 6.2's since 2009 blow with 600 rwhp-630 rwhp. Build the motor then you will have a 775 rwhp capable car.
You are clueless, the ls3 is one of gms best motors to date. 650rw isn’t even tickling the engine
Can't really do that unless you've got enough airflow on the front of the car to simulate real road conditions. And 99% of the dyno installations in the aftermarket world _don't_ have enough airflow for that. So you open the hood to improve airflow with the fans you have. Most chassis dynos don't come close to approximating the real world, but a good tuner knows the relationship between their dyno and how cars perform on the street. Based upon RPM's track results, Fran's technique is working fine.
Ls3 and Lt1 is the Same engine with a few updates huh?
Man do us all a favor and shut up already. Ur causing headaches bud
MHautovlgs you’re an idiot
The only sight I see is forward who cares about blind spots