LTx Showdown: Big Cam VS Small Cam

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  • Опубліковано 8 лис 2020
  • On todays video we have the opportunity to compare a Big Cam to a Small Cam in two virtually Identically modded 6th gen Camaro 1LE's both on 93 octane and E85. Will the Big cam come out on top or will the Small cam pull off the upset and beat out the Big boy? You'll just have to watch and see!
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  • @brettguth6020
    @brettguth6020 3 роки тому +2

    CSP Great job on the video! Really awesome see the 2 of them in the overlay. Explains all my wheel spin on the top end vs others....Love it! Thank you and great work!

  • @paintslinger16
    @paintslinger16 3 роки тому +2

    Really cool to see two popular choices side by side

  • @RCbashingtheKRATON
    @RCbashingtheKRATON 3 роки тому +2

    Nice job editing,,clean and watchable..

  • @dannyh5700
    @dannyh5700 3 роки тому +3

    Cool builds on both, I would go for the smaller cam on mine too.

  • @JoeyDiPar
    @JoeyDiPar 3 роки тому +8

    Would be cool to see the street tuning aspect after the dyno tune and how you fine tuned it

  • @djrr.zl1
    @djrr.zl1 3 роки тому +8

    Sheeesh look at all those camaros lined up 😍😍😍😍

  • @Stclairm1
    @Stclairm1 3 роки тому +1

    I guess a cam swap might as well include getting the heads ported. Might as well go all out. Thanks for the comparo!

  • @milehighgimpster
    @milehighgimpster 3 роки тому +3

    These engines love long tube headers though! That's quite a difference!

  • @MikeB85
    @MikeB85 3 роки тому +3

    So basically the big cam Orange car made within like 40ish whp of what a heads/cam C6 Z06 will do? That's really impressive, good work!

  • @gdevonfarley
    @gdevonfarley Рік тому

    I have to bring my 2016 SS to get some work done. I'm in the Poconos and will be dropping it off before spring.

  • @MoonBoost
    @MoonBoost 3 роки тому +1

    Great Video! Love performance Comparo’s. More informational like dyno’s are supposed to be used for. Not swinging weiners around.

  • @SDGlock23
    @SDGlock23 3 роки тому +1

    Love it, need this for my '17 SS

    • @jesuscuencar2274
      @jesuscuencar2274 3 роки тому

      Need it for my '19 ss

    • @_Mi1le
      @_Mi1le 3 роки тому +1

      @@jesuscuencar2274 need it for my 02 Z28

  • @DadsDriveway
    @DadsDriveway 3 роки тому +3

    Big cam wide LSA for the soon to be added blower as power is addictive.

  • @lexusrcflover9175
    @lexusrcflover9175 3 роки тому

    They both make strong numbers can't go wrong with either one that big cam sounded like it reved to the Moon tho which was awesome lol

  • @TheJMan1K
    @TheJMan1K Рік тому +1

    Small cam car needs an MSD or ported LT2 intake. But for a relatively Street friendly build it’s got excellent numbers.

  • @theflyingfox2602
    @theflyingfox2602 3 роки тому

    Hope to see that "DARK KNIGHT" out here in MD roads!! 0_0

  • @Untamed_STI
    @Untamed_STI 3 роки тому +3

    Wanna cam my 5th gen SS so bad, trying to save up the money lol. Great video, very informative as always

    • @apollyon1118
      @apollyon1118 3 роки тому

      Throw a ls9 cam in it

    • @Untamed_STI
      @Untamed_STI 3 роки тому

      @@apollyon1118 Why? Lol. I’m looking for that chop, not terrible driveability (LS3), and of course, as good of power as I can get from a cam since I daily my car

    • @apollyon1118
      @apollyon1118 3 роки тому +1

      @@Untamed_STI i had a LS3 as well, the ls9 cam added 54whp and had no drivability issues

    • @apollyon1118
      @apollyon1118 3 роки тому +1

      @@Untamed_STI all for $100 plus gaskets, I think it was good for me. Pretty sleeper sounding lol, check out my account it did well against other vehicles

    • @Untamed_STI
      @Untamed_STI 3 роки тому +1

      @@apollyon1118 Not too shabby hmm

  • @deanchapman2447
    @deanchapman2447 2 роки тому

    love the color its best

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 3 роки тому

    Nice!!

  • @shawnking6270
    @shawnking6270 3 роки тому +3

    Have you guys done any with the 10speed auto? I want to bring mine to you guys.

  • @cemsengul16
    @cemsengul16 3 роки тому +5

    Small cam with big heads for a daily driver.

  • @FitzCity
    @FitzCity 3 роки тому +1

    What was the specs for the small cam? Was a lash cap needed?

  • @anthonybomicino3276
    @anthonybomicino3276 3 роки тому +1

    A lot has to be attributed to the msd in the upper rpm

  • @LMBC6Brian
    @LMBC6Brian 3 роки тому +15

    Incorrect info. 2019 was the first year you could get the 10speed for the standard SS. 2021 is the first year you can get the 10 speed for the SS 1LE. That was manual only through 2020.

    • @god1st.530
      @god1st.530 3 роки тому

      They are often I remember a episode. Big cam vs small cam they was so wrong an had to bash vengeance racing in the process to make the video . It was a vengeance max effort cam. But they forget that was when cam only cars was running 9.7s . It was called cam only for a reason that's how I started at vengeance racing. So all I know is any Ls Lt car love a big cam an a 36 to 4000 stall . An that's a fact.

    • @MartinPerez-ju9iw
      @MartinPerez-ju9iw 2 роки тому

      2020 you can get auto

    • @houstonmade8327
      @houstonmade8327 2 роки тому

      Your wrong , actually 2018 is the first year you could get the a10 for the ss .

    • @tyranrainey
      @tyranrainey Рік тому

      @@houstonmade8327 you could get the 10 speed in fall of 2018 but it wasn’t for the 2018 Camaro. it was the 2019 Camaro that was made available for sale in 2018. 2016-2018 autos are all 8 speeds

    • @mre_nolasport5392
      @mre_nolasport5392 Рік тому

      Only camaro that had the a10 before 2019 was a zl1 other than that it was the ss. the 1le got the auto in 2020

  • @bvp794
    @bvp794 3 роки тому +10

    I see my gto on the lift!

  • @modernmusclecar1904
    @modernmusclecar1904 3 роки тому

    He guys new sub here. Im in Ontario Canada and a buddy of mine is buying a 2021 1le 10 speed. He wants heads and cam done right away. The really good ls shop close to us quoted 17k. I thought no way. They said its new and they are working on the tunes and stuff on their 2019 shop car. Does this sound right? Thanks.

  • @chaosgaming6389
    @chaosgaming6389 3 роки тому +2

    Alright so how much is the install for the big boy in a 2017 auto? Lol i need to start saving up i guess...

  • @The_Drive_Inside
    @The_Drive_Inside 3 роки тому +4

    Holy crap it’s weird seeing a car exactly like your own on a thumbnail 😂

  • @HioSSilver1999
    @HioSSilver1999 3 роки тому +3

    Car was having valvetrain issues with the big cam up top.
    Small cam did well. There would be virtually no difference in acceleration between those cars.

  • @IranAir12
    @IranAir12 Рік тому +1

    Now the Chevy crew just needs to use a self tuning device like ford has coming. It automatically adjusts for outside temps, humidity, elevation, pressure and fuel octane and e content all by itself. There’s even a company that has been doing self tuning devices for over 14 yrs now, at Vivid Racing in AZ.

  • @Battle_Garage
    @Battle_Garage 10 місяців тому

    Can we get some cam specs. Not sure what's considered big and small in this application.

  • @calebstevens6417
    @calebstevens6417 2 роки тому

    What size cam did the orange one end up getting?

  • @Jesusprayerwarriorbw
    @Jesusprayerwarriorbw 3 роки тому

    Any update on the TT kit for C8?

  • @maxscal7537
    @maxscal7537 3 роки тому +6

    the amount of comeros this guy walked passes is nuts

  • @zachrozi3910
    @zachrozi3910 2 роки тому

    What’s the price difference between these 2 ??

  • @stevenjenkins5415
    @stevenjenkins5415 2 роки тому

    Lol I like this guy. Is he the owner?

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS 2 місяці тому

    They both made the same tq and only a 18 hp dif. it would be a drivers race or a 130 lb driver vs 210 lb and 6 gal of fuel vs 14.

  • @user-uz7pk2ck9r
    @user-uz7pk2ck9r 3 роки тому +1

    wow

  • @Angel-dn9sm
    @Angel-dn9sm 3 роки тому +1

    The sound is worth it if ur there allready bigcam

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 3 роки тому

      You can always run a smaller cam with tighter lobe separation and get both

  • @captain8960
    @captain8960 3 роки тому

    How much is all this set up cost for big cam

  • @jondough7727
    @jondough7727 3 роки тому +3

    Time to invest in a clip-on mic.

  • @kingkole02
    @kingkole02 2 роки тому

    What if you don’t drive an automatic?

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS 2 місяці тому

    Never had to remove 75% of this stuff for cam job on LS2/3.

  • @PawlDunken
    @PawlDunken 3 роки тому +2

    Whats considered a small cam?

  • @moisessevilla9630
    @moisessevilla9630 3 роки тому

    Whp?

  • @CamaroThings
    @CamaroThings 3 роки тому

    0:38 ... red, white and blue... MURICA!

  • @Sweaner172
    @Sweaner172 3 роки тому +1

    small cam for California ;)

  • @amordeweso
    @amordeweso 3 роки тому +1

    Might as well go big cam so you don’t ever have to

  • @Joshuapsalm
    @Joshuapsalm 3 роки тому +1

    Dam 561 Na

  • @robertoc.4413
    @robertoc.4413 2 роки тому

    Race them both

  • @jackstoepfer1494
    @jackstoepfer1494 3 роки тому

    I just emailed about a cam

  • @Conway7
    @Conway7 2 роки тому

    Where is your shop? I want that set up for my6 gen

  • @timothywilson3785
    @timothywilson3785 3 роки тому

    They look NA. Very impressive.

  • @crossingkey4978
    @crossingkey4978 3 роки тому

    Im confused on the witness mark on cam from the fuel pump lobe? I thought they runn electric on in tank

    • @bluenecross
      @bluenecross 3 роки тому

      Direct injection uses a "low pressure" pump in the fuel tank and a "high pressure" pump on the engine that is driven by the camshaft.

    • @crossingkey4978
      @crossingkey4978 3 роки тому

      @@bluenecross o wow haha thanks for the info

  • @ss2cold247
    @ss2cold247 3 роки тому

    Just bought my Camaro 2ss trying any suggestions for getting started

    • @LsXUnderground
      @LsXUnderground 3 роки тому +1

      Cannot go wrong with a cold air intake and exhaust 👍🏻

    • @ss2cold247
      @ss2cold247 3 роки тому

      @@LsXUnderground any suggestions I like the deeper tone rather than loud

    • @LsXUnderground
      @LsXUnderground 3 роки тому +1

      @@ss2cold247 peep the video description for the 6th gen Camaros. I put some recommendations in there. CSP 2in Headers or Kooks 2in headers mated to the factory dual mode is a great option. Loud/quiet when you want it lol

    • @ss2cold247
      @ss2cold247 3 роки тому

      @@LsXUnderground thanks man appreciate keep up good content love it man 🔥🔥

    • @MeltingRubberZ28
      @MeltingRubberZ28 3 роки тому +1

      Headers

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 3 роки тому +8

    Big Cam all day🔥

    • @brannonbarakat457
      @brannonbarakat457 3 роки тому

      I got a lil baby 220r cam in my gto, doesnt hook till 60 but it looses all the steam after 100 lol. The torques insane.

    • @PhillyDee215
      @PhillyDee215 3 роки тому

      @@brannonbarakat457 🤦‍♂️🤣is what it is....

    • @brannonbarakat457
      @brannonbarakat457 3 роки тому +1

      @@PhillyDee215 must be new to the cam game? Sometimes them big cams get the gap, not always feasible to make peak power all the way at 5500 rpm lol.

    • @PhillyDee215
      @PhillyDee215 3 роки тому +1

      @@brannonbarakat457 I have the biggest cam possible in my buick V6... check out my dyno on my page. But big or small cam is better than stock....and it's all about what u want out of your build and or camshaft. Top end....sound....etc😉

  • @ahmedal-mawlani5284
    @ahmedal-mawlani5284 3 роки тому

    Small cam all day

  • @ericinfante1885
    @ericinfante1885 3 роки тому

    So small cam or big cam folks?

  • @Upracefan
    @Upracefan 3 роки тому +1

    Bigger is better!

  • @corystansbury
    @corystansbury 3 роки тому +1

    I think I'd go small in this case. That torque difference would not be subtle.

  • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
    @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 3 роки тому

    Need to exact same mods on both cars for a legit comparison. No ifs ands or buts.

  • @xxmakeouthill23
    @xxmakeouthill23 3 роки тому

    What do u do for a living

  • @largelarry2126
    @largelarry2126 3 роки тому +2

    The big cam guy is out to impress someone and the small cam guy is out to win.

  • @frankensteincamaro
    @frankensteincamaro 3 роки тому +2

    It takes time to save up some money and then decide and pull the trigger on getting a cam done. But you no what pisses me off when the shop’s personnel act like it’s just another car on the conveyor belt. Your in the wrong business if you look bored and not excited about performance cars. A sign of a good shop is organization and a clean shop. Mind you there always seems to be a lot of nice cars there getting work done.

    • @1slow.grandsport628
      @1slow.grandsport628 3 роки тому +2

      I disagree, I had a cam installed in my c6 grandsport, and the shop i chose to do the work had an incredibly clean neat organized shop with alot of high performance cars worth more than mine. The mechanic work was fine. The tune was absolute garbage tho. I couldn't stand driving my car.

    • @iAbdosh
      @iAbdosh 3 роки тому +1

      I had them tune my c7 when I was NA and even though I didn't have any work done by them, they still treated me like a was more than a customer. Got an amazing tour of both shops and Andrew and Alex took their time answering all the dumb questions. Couldn't have asked for a better experience. There's a reason why they're well respected and always booked out weeks if not months in advance.

    • @iAbdosh
      @iAbdosh 3 роки тому

      @@1slow.grandsport628 Exactly this.

    • @1slow.grandsport628
      @1slow.grandsport628 3 роки тому

      @@iAbdosh I wasnt saying csp done my work. A local shop in georgia did, and the tune was garbage.

    • @iAbdosh
      @iAbdosh 3 роки тому

      @@1slow.grandsport628 I know. I was agreeing with you that it doesn't matter how clean a shop may look is if they can't deliver results and quality work. And CSP does just that, they deliver.

  • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
    @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 10 місяців тому

    Blk one got what???? Small cam, MSD and heads?? I thought he said something else that got covered up by the lift noise.

  • @jeredtapp5760
    @jeredtapp5760 Рік тому

    Curious. Why’d you drop the pan?

    • @sheldor73
      @sheldor73 11 місяців тому

      10qts bulky af

  • @junitoss83
    @junitoss83 3 роки тому

    I have the same shirt that he has in at the end lol

  • @billgates5561
    @billgates5561 3 роки тому +3

    Shop needs to be cleaned .

    • @sj7624
      @sj7624 3 роки тому +4

      Why don't you get off your ass and go clean it for them!

    • @RCbashingtheKRATON
      @RCbashingtheKRATON 3 роки тому +5

      MUST HAVE VOTED FOR BIDEN,,LIBERAL ASSHOLE

    • @IRONMANDAN1965
      @IRONMANDAN1965 3 роки тому

      @@RCbashingtheKRATON my state is red not like yours..

    • @RCbashingtheKRATON
      @RCbashingtheKRATON 3 роки тому

      @@IRONMANDAN1965 why did you VOTE BIDEN THEN.

    • @IRONMANDAN1965
      @IRONMANDAN1965 3 роки тому

      @@RCbashingtheKRATON i didnt vote i was too busy with your mom..

  • @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq
    @MasterCarguy44-pk2dq 3 роки тому +1

    Ugh, I can't STAND the didge charger or Honda Accord look of the front end of the 2019 SS. Butt ugly.

  • @SIRICKO
    @SIRICKO 3 роки тому +1

    Where did your neck go ? lol

  • @natelsx
    @natelsx Рік тому

    Watched the hole video and no race ? Seriously

  • @issacgonzalez100
    @issacgonzalez100 3 роки тому

    Weak no race

  • @davidray4128
    @davidray4128 3 роки тому

    Big cams suck more..

  • @craigslue
    @craigslue 3 роки тому

    I understand your trying to sell cams but not very informative without more info than big cam small cam.