I wanted that but the shipping is crazy, picked up r5 bundle at my microcenter for $400 open box and that’s been great with my carbon fiber es gt wheel mod + brake kit.
For desk drivers who only do this once in a blue moon in a small apartment, the very small package size is very attractive, as long as you can build it up within like 3 minutes. I always have a power screwdriver at hand though, a little 3.7V one, which speeds up such things greatly. I would actually call it ugly but do i care, do i really care at all? So here's a thought i had. at 36V, a 350W hoverboard motor has about 10Nm of torque... if you lower the voltage to 19... you'd get half that, and the power would be reduced by about the factor of 4. The rotor stator arrangement is hollow in the middle, there's empty room inside. It'll do about 300rpm at 19V, not bad. NOW LOOK AT THIS THING. THIS THING.
Sadly, if you're based in Germany it costs 400€ for the bundle at a local distributor or 412.90$ from the Website. So the advantage over the CSL DD is gone. Additionally with the Fanatec Pedals I can just mount a load cell kit later on, haven't seen that on any other entry DD Wheel package I found. But still, nice review and a unique looking wheel.
@@DAGATHireDo you maybe remember how much the shipping cost was and if you had any other fee to pay when you received the wheel? I'm also based in Europe but in my country the choice of wheels is very limited. At this price point I can get either Logitech or Thrustmaster and nothing else basically. I'm considering this wheel but I'm kinda nervous about getting it since I never bought anything from a different country before.
@@MarkoVuckovic32 hi mate, the wheel was $250, the mount which is a must ws $30 and shipping was $70.00 which worked out at €304 to the door. Eventually. cos the shipment took quite a while. basically a month. Tho as i understand it, this isn't normal. there was some issues somewhere along the line.
@@DAGATHire thank you for the answer. Believe it or not that's less than what I'd pay for a Logitech G29 if I bought here in Serbia. Now I'm sure I'll order it as well.
I wonder if.. at the size of the motor i imagine to be inside that case.. that it couldnt do more than 5nm :p *wants to take it apart to see if its actually more capable.. and secretly lowered for sale reasons*
It's definitely over 5nm. Feels soo much stronger than my old T300 and not so different to my friends Logitech Pro. A German UA-camr measured it at between 8 and 9 nm peak.
for me shipping is 77 euros from spain to netherlands .. it's 2 countries over so im choosing fanatec csl dd w table stand for 450e w shipping instead 405 for cammus bundle and table stand @@NOOBIFIER1337
Wahahhahaahahah 80$ for shipping from Spain and 82$ shipping from china... keep your shit in china pls.. Bought an CSL DD for 399,- and got pedals with it... l8 china man.. oh and i don't have to send it back to China if it breaks neither :P
How much was the shipping for CLS DD? Also where are you located? I'm considering between those two wheels but I'd have to ship both because neither is sold in my country.
sad that cammus had to basicly copy the "openffboard" project including the firmware from a german guy called "gigawipf" i guess that answered the title. because they spend nearly no money designing this shit.
I feel like this is the whole point of open sourcing anything, it creates a new level of accessibility weather it be cost or availability. Sure this might not he "it" with this exact setup, but i think theres a lot of potential in this approach. Im thinking something like this that can be split open and can have tradeable steering wheel that uses the standard 8 bolt pattern would be cool in the future sure its not streamlined but that costs more and at that point this product isn't for you. I think with these low end products if there's enough community behind it, some tweaking can make a really cool experience for the price. My Logitech pedals are really awesome after a ton of tinkering and community upgrades have been put into them. Ive had a lot of fun getting the to this point as well.
@@DouglasThompsonyes it's open source and cammus should also make the firmware and design open source, but cammus doesn't do that, he doesn't even give credit to the openffboard developer
There is a correction 0:22 & 0:46 The LP8 in the next Product Review for Cammus. I said it was LC8, this is incorrect.
Just had a friend talk about wanting to get an entry level wheel. This is a perfect vid for em! Thanks Noob!
i'm so glad you reviewed this one . thanks man!
My pleasure!
Sounds like a fantastic set up. Thanks for the review, N00b!
You bet!
Thanks for the review Noobifier!
Any time!
I wanted that but the shipping is crazy, picked up r5 bundle at my microcenter for $400 open box and that’s been great with my carbon fiber es gt wheel mod + brake kit.
R5 is a solid choice as well. I had reviewed R3 49 and R12… all good, so I assume the R5 is as good, just with a bit less torque.
I wish I had the R3@@NOOBIFIER1337
is it good? really wanted a dd wheels but the prices are " ga ngotak "
Cammus and Moza are both good@@Dakhowl
@@dcars806 I'll take the R5 Bundles soon, maybe 6 or 12 months lmao, really not worth for my salary but who gives a sh*t?🤣
For desk drivers who only do this once in a blue moon in a small apartment, the very small package size is very attractive, as long as you can build it up within like 3 minutes. I always have a power screwdriver at hand though, a little 3.7V one, which speeds up such things greatly.
I would actually call it ugly but do i care, do i really care at all?
So here's a thought i had. at 36V, a 350W hoverboard motor has about 10Nm of torque... if you lower the voltage to 19... you'd get half that, and the power would be reduced by about the factor of 4. The rotor stator arrangement is hollow in the middle, there's empty room inside. It'll do about 300rpm at 19V, not bad.
NOW LOOK AT THIS THING. THIS THING.
Sadly, if you're based in Germany it costs 400€ for the bundle at a local distributor or 412.90$ from the Website. So the advantage over the CSL DD is gone. Additionally with the Fanatec Pedals I can just mount a load cell kit later on, haven't seen that on any other entry DD Wheel package I found.
But still, nice review and a unique looking wheel.
I bought it from france sent to ireland! to my door for 304€
you may have missed the euro based wearhouse options on the website
@@DAGATHireDo you maybe remember how much the shipping cost was and if you had any other fee to pay when you received the wheel? I'm also based in Europe but in my country the choice of wheels is very limited. At this price point I can get either Logitech or Thrustmaster and nothing else basically. I'm considering this wheel but I'm kinda nervous about getting it since I never bought anything from a different country before.
@@MarkoVuckovic32 hi mate,
the wheel was $250, the mount which is a must ws $30 and shipping was $70.00
which worked out at €304 to the door. Eventually. cos the shipment took quite a while. basically a month. Tho as i understand it, this isn't normal. there was some issues somewhere along the line.
@@DAGATHire thank you for the answer. Believe it or not that's less than what I'd pay for a Logitech G29 if I bought here in Serbia. Now I'm sure I'll order it as well.
@@MarkoVuckovic32 Well marko, be aware, i only bought the wheel and the desk mount. i already have good pedals so i did not buy pedals.
It's so tiny. That's fantastic!
nice work Noob
so crazy that set up you have
the million dollar question: how is the out of the box support/compatibility on games? Anyone try it on FM8? new WRC? AC Competizione?
This and insane shipping cost is why ill go w fanatec.
Out of the box works with assetto corsa no software, I have confirmed. Not sure about the others but the cammus software is free too.
7nm peak rating, 5nm is the constant rating.
Any idea when you getting the Apache grip? Thanks.
I have had it for over one week.
@@NOOBIFIER1337Thanks. I’m assuming there’s an embargo. Do you know when you’ll be likely to review it?
@@doifeellucky wed
@@NOOBIFIER1337 Excellent. You got the counterbalance?
@@doifeellucky Three versions of it.
nice bro!
Thanks 🔥
i dont get why they didnt go with a larger diameter for the wheel itself for the Cammus...
@@DLiotine low torque, can you please search for, Noobifier C12
why have bunner not given this man a joystick base
Don’t think they know about me TBH.
I wonder if.. at the size of the motor i imagine to be inside that case.. that it couldnt do more than 5nm :p *wants to take it apart to see if its actually more capable.. and secretly lowered for sale reasons*
It's definitely over 5nm. Feels soo much stronger than my old T300 and not so different to my friends Logitech Pro.
A German UA-camr measured it at between 8 and 9 nm peak.
It’s probably limited to “5” for thermal longevity
@@NOOBIFIER1337 time to add a bigger fan and mod it. I wish somebody would look inside to maybe find a producer... or serial number on the motor
Other reviews say its 6-7 nm peak, with 5nm sustained. i mean, its got a 140 watt psu.
The csl dd is only 90 watts.
7nm peak
Costco Puma Socks...a man of fine tastes!
The shipping is painful to Canada. $135USD just in shipping... ouch.
That is not what I paid.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 $135 is what it told me from China to Ontario. I was expecting a lot less.
@@NOOBIFIER1337 its telling me $160 from China to Massachusetts
for me shipping is 77 euros from spain to netherlands .. it's 2 countries over so im choosing fanatec csl dd w table stand for 450e w shipping instead 405 for cammus bundle and table stand @@NOOBIFIER1337
You're going to have to have a GiveAway for your old gear lol
Be careful or you're going to attract the Foot Fetish crowd 😂😂🍻🇨🇦
I have an "Only Feet" account now..
@@NOOBIFIER1337LOL
When I grow up I want to be like you...
Wahahhahaahahah 80$ for shipping from Spain and 82$ shipping from china... keep your shit in china pls..
Bought an CSL DD for 399,- and got pedals with it... l8 china man.. oh and i don't have to send it back to China if it breaks neither :P
How much was the shipping for CLS DD? Also where are you located? I'm considering between those two wheels but I'd have to ship both because neither is sold in my country.
sad that cammus had to basicly copy the "openffboard" project including the firmware from a german guy called "gigawipf" i guess that answered the title. because they spend nearly no money designing this shit.
I feel like this is the whole point of open sourcing anything, it creates a new level of accessibility weather it be cost or availability. Sure this might not he "it" with this exact setup, but i think theres a lot of potential in this approach. Im thinking something like this that can be split open and can have tradeable steering wheel that uses the standard 8 bolt pattern would be cool in the future sure its not streamlined but that costs more and at that point this product isn't for you. I think with these low end products if there's enough community behind it, some tweaking can make a really cool experience for the price. My Logitech pedals are really awesome after a ton of tinkering and community upgrades have been put into them. Ive had a lot of fun getting the to this point as well.
bro misses the whole point of open source .. complete low iq selfish scum
That was open source. Lol
@@DouglasThompsonyes it's open source and cammus should also make the firmware and design open source, but cammus doesn't do that, he doesn't even give credit to the openffboard developer