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My dear, I just want to hug you. ❤ If you aren’t making mistakes, you aren’t doing anything new! I’ve been knitting and crocheting and sewing since I was 9. Sometimes I frog entire blankets and robes and dusters simply because I don’t love the result. Sometimes I knit a 12x12 square just to see how close I can get by feel or eye. But ALWAYS I knit simply because my hands want to knit! I appreciate your effort in dissecting what happened or your M&M as we say in the medical world. This is a wonderful deep dive in how to set up your best possible chance of success on a new project. I think though, maybe your heart and your hands just wanted to knit. 🤷🏻♀️ Give yourself permission to do something that doesn’t have a deadline, doesn’t have a specific outcome, isn’t about teaching, learning, or gifting. You are a yarn dyer. Perhaps your hands just wanted to touch and feel a yarn not at the ultimate quality you demand of your own work. Your spirit wanted to remember touching the machine products of young knitters purchasing their very first wool. Do a thing only for the sake of doing it whether it’s knitting or dyeing or anything else.
Oh Tayler - don't be so hard on yourself. This is a time for positive thinking - I suggest you frog this one ASAP, throw the yarn back in your stash and put the whole thing behind you. Take what you learned and so generously shared and apply it to the next exciting new project. We have all been there and it's horrid - but this is all part of the knitting experience. Thanks for another passionate and informative podcast.
I wanted to jump into the comments to say that your video background/crafting room always gives me so much joy! The lovely vibe crafting supplies, candles, and mood lighting is such a wonderful pairing with the topic of knitting and always makes me feel calm and cosy while watching your videos :)
Please, if you get a chance, watch “It’s a Sarah” podcast! She LOVES to knit and does these kinds of things a lot. She doesn’t care because she just frogs and does it again because she loves to knit. Don’t be so hard on yourself, you made a mistake, who doesn’t? The knitting is beautiful, the colors are lovely but your sizing is off. Here’s a hug 🤗 to peace.
Ugh- I had the whole body of my recent disaster knit. In my case it was damn row gauge that bit me - it is never important…… until it is. I also wish the designer would have said something about the importance of making sure you hit row gauge too! From now on, I will think critically about the construction of a garment and determine if row gauge matters. Interestingly enough, the sweater I was knitting was a similar construction to yours. I ripped it out, put the yarn in time out and knit something totally different with different yarn. It happens to the best of us! 😳
Hell I didn’t even notice, focused on the pattern and tidbits you had for it. I would have claimed to be mixing English and Spanish/French/Navajo… none the wiser. My downfall to projects is finding yarn I want to use for a garment like a hat or sweater, then I can’t find a pattern I like with the yarn I selected. I have a whole bin of sweater amounts of yarn and can’t find a pattern that I want to use it with.
Thank you for sharing being human being. No one is perfect. We develop mastery from making mistakes and applying what we learn. Thank you for letting us learn from your experience. I makes soooo many mistakes all the time…
Tayler, I so appreciate that you are willing to show that you're human. You were excited to do a thing, and sometimes that excitement gets the better of us. We've all done it... we'll probably do it again, and it'll be okay in the end. We'll also make different mistakes. We're human, stuff happens. The important thing is that you made a video owning up to making mistakes, which makes you a good model for others who can be very hard on themselves and think they have to do everything perfectly the first go at it. That's worth all the tea in the world as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work. :)
Oh my I feel bad that you feel so bad! Don't be so hard on yourself! You should see everyone else's fumbles!! But I did learn a lot from yours today, so thanks for sharing!
Ha! I watched this while ripping back an entire finished sweater that didn’t turn out right for similar reasons. Sometimes we just don’t put in the upfront effort to make things turn out, sometimes it’s simply luck that they do! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I love this. Not that you’re ripping out of course. But the timely nature of the video. Having a hype man in the background while you’re frogging is always uplifting. 😉❤️
You are WONDERFUL!!! I loved what you had intended to create so much that I was preparing to do the same sweater using two entirely different worsted yarns. I am not great about swatching and have a tendency to jump right in and then try to fix it. You’re “ upfront” approach to presenting a podcast continues to provide worthwhile suggestions and guidance in enjoying the journey of knitting. BRAVO
This is actually a very helpful video Taylor. I am making a baby sweater. I am using Berroco Vintage in DK, however they are two different colors. They are not the same weight. After comparing the two yarns, they have two different guage recommendations. I did knit a generous guage swatch with both yarns. I decided on a compromise needle size to get gauge. I also am using two needle sizes: a larger needle for the knit side and a smaller size for my purl side to accommodate the difference in my tension. It is because of all of our conversations, (yes, I consider my time with you a two-way conversation) that I had the insight and patience to consider the tension bugs we encounter. We have all learned so much from this sweater experiment of yours. It didn't fulfil the dream you first envisioned, but it's not a fail. That's why we enjoy your podcast. You dive in head first just like we all do, and we love you for it.❤😊 Thank you.
Hey!! At 29:42 you mention wrapping your yarn in the opposite direction for your purl stitches. Please look up "combination knitting" to look into this further! When I was first learning, I used to do my purls in the "wrong" direction going under instead of over top, and it ended up twisting my stitches. I went years not realizing until I started doing cabling and was wondering why my cables looked effed. Calling this out because for stockinette it may not end up mattering, but if you employ this technique for other things it absolutely might
Combination knitting is the best way to go. Aside from saving yarn, it prevents ladders and tightens it up to make the stitches nice and equal. I'm going to try a pair of superwash yarn socks with SERIOUS Combination knitting for the ribbing and pattern so they are snugged right up. Hopefully this will prevent some of the post wash sag. Combination is truly the best!
Excellent video. Very informative. Some patterns I call " Assumption Patterns" because the designer ASSUMES I know what I am doing. I wish designers would give those extra details. I learned how to knit technically from patterns later in life. Those before me, who taught me how to knit learned intuitively. They didn't have pattern books and Ravelry. Just like my Grandma who learned how to cook without a recipe books. It makes a big difference.
This was so relatable! I wasn't laughing AT you, I was laughing WITH you. 😉But seriously, it was a great cautionary tale with loads of good advice. It's all about the growth mindset - we learn more from our mistakes than our successes. So take it as a good learning experience and knit on!! Good to know even experienced knitters struggle sometimes and I'm not alone!
Oh Taylor, thank you for sharing and don't give up! In my past, I also noticed texture differences between knitting flat and knitting in the round. My solution is to choose one (or half a) needle size smaller for the row I have to purl and staying with the "normal" needle size for the row i have to knit. The result is very close to the texture when knitting in the round. If you use interchangable needles it is even easier to manage. Sorry, I am not a native speaker and I hope you get what I mean ;-)
Hi! Marica from Uppsala, Sweden! Thanks for charing so generously the good and the bad!! So, uplifting and educational! I,m listening to you almost every episode! Your the best!! ❤🎉🥳
I learned from Irina at Fiberchats that knitting for hours, then realizing you've made mistakes, with a subsequent frog is NEVER wasted time. You just get double the entertainment value out of the yarn. We all have those projects that stall our enthusiasm. I was so eager when I started my first pair of colourwork mittens. Gorgeous yarn and a cute polar bear pattern. Did a gauge swatch, perfect! Started the right mitten, but couldn't get it over my wrist so frogged and used my next size up in needles. Pattern wasn't as crisp but still good. Finished mitten then started on left one. No issues. Well, i have yet to wear them 2 years later. There is no gusset for the thumbs so it fits perfectly if my thumbs were frozen to my palm. The polar bears are sitting quietly in my ex-salad bowl turned yarn bowl with the remaining yarn waiting for me to start over. I have to redo my gauge swatch on the first needles to get the best stitch definition, add stitches on either side of my hand to ensure a good fit, and figure out how to add in a thumb gusset. It may sit there thru another winter. I wish I could help you out with your sweater dilemmas but I'm a newbie to sweaters. As for pronouncing words correctly, I speak with a Canadian prairies accent and get words wrong all the time ... according to my fellow Canadians on both coasts and everywhere in between. Lol.
Taylor, thank you so much for being brave enough to share your stumbles and struggles with us. I ran into many of the same issues on sweaters I have made and being a fairly new knitter without a community to go to with questions I thought I had made a mistake. I still wear and love the sweaters, mistakes and all. Also, we all mess up words it's no big deal...I forgot the word spoon a few months ago and called it a food shovel. It's all good, and we all still love you. Thanks for being here.
Oh, am I in this zone this year. For the last several years all of my projects have turned out fine and to a standard I can live with. For whatever reason (I ran out of luck?) my projects this year have been hit-or-miss. Maybe because I've been feeling more confident because of all of those successes and therefore am taking more risks? And those risks are NOT working out. BUT I am learning so much. So, thank you for this encouragement! I will consider this year my "masters year" and am looking forward to getting an advanced degree LOLLLL
Thank you, Tayler, for this really useful and helpful podcast. I had not heard of the term 'rowing out' either but did know my purl rows were looser than my knit rows. I change down a size for purl rows and try to knit a little tighter to compensate for this; I do usually go through the purl rows tightening them up on the reverse of the fabric with a tapestry needle when finished. I will try out the under wrap you mentioned to see if that works - thank you. Your 'wasted time' is not wasted - you have learnt loads and passed that valuable knowledge on to us so we wont waste time in future. I certainly have learned so much (including a new word - "contiguously") as well as a new technique, a new term and that rowing out is a common issue and not my being a rubbish purl-er. I knit, mainly, accessories so gauge isn't an issue for me but, will definitely store those nuggets away in the future. Thanks for a lovely, informative, fun and easy to understand podcast channel that informs but never talks down - you have got the tone just right.
I hadn't either until I saw the comments from the last video. Then Andrea Mowry talked about it on her podcast the next day answering a viewers question! Funny how that works and great to learn something new!
You are healing the beginner knitter in me who just did projects willy nilly with no regard to fiber, weight, gauge, or blocking and REGULARLY made things wayy too big. My inner kid thanks you ❤️
Oh, we've all been here! 🙂 Haven't read through all the comments but, in case no one else has mentioned it, if you decide to wrap your purls the other way (which is a great idea), you'll need to knit through the back loop on the knits of the following row...
This was such a genuinely helpful video. I've crocheted for years but am a much more recent knitter. I remember all of the things I did wrong crocheting my first sweater that I wish I would have realized before I started. You don't know what you don't know sometimes. So, this video gave me lots of good information for what to pay attention to for knitting sweaters. I'm sorry you were so frustrated but I'm grateful I could learn vicariously through you.
What a timely episode. As I was starting the video I realized you were speaking directly to me. This is because (1) I just started a striped sweater, (2) my gauge swatch was done in the round about 1-2 inches, (3) my yarn was two different manufacturers (although both DK as the pattern suggests) and my gauge swatch, as small as it was, only consisted of the MC of the sweater and not the contrasting stripe and was 1 stitch per 4" off from the pattern suggestion (it will block out :)) Oops. I have been duly chastised and will now do a proper swatch using both yarns and making sure I get the proper gauge and not something kinda close. Thanks, Tayler. PS, don't apologize for mispronunciations. We all do it. Even English majors!
Love that you are willing to "ramble on" about your learning errors. Just something I learned years ago when knitting stockinette flat, use a smaller size needle for your purl rows. I only use circs now and will put smaller needle on my "purl" side. Then when switching to in the round needles are the same. Always look forward to your podcasts and rambles.
I'm finally able to come back to knitting after a bit of a hiatus. Your videos keep me company as I work on my projects and I learn a great deal from your content! Thank you!
I think this happens to all of us. Becoming so excited that we throw away everything that stands in the way of casting on this new wonderful project. I frogged different projects for the same reason and normally I swatch now very carefully, but yeah, sometimes I'm faster with casting on than with preparations.
Yup, I hear you! I think most knitters have an Oopsie like this. Set the yarn/project in a corner. Out of sight. Let it marinate. Now, make another ‘thing’. Take the Lessons you’ve just learned & put them to good use. Don’t beat yourself up over this. Time and separation will heal That. Stripe. Debacle. Pick other colors, make a little top. Make a pair of socks. Keep on knittin’!!! You’ll be fine!😊
Hello! Kutovakika has a video about tips- and in the tips she suggests going down a size on the Purl needle and regular for the knitting size - so a different needle on each side of the cable
Hi Tayler- I always wait for your podcasts as I find you to be so real and as a very new knitter to garments I am always afraid to approach them and think that all you knitters are amazing. When I would get frustrated with myself, my aunt would always say, you are human and boy did that help. Growth comes from making mistakes. I was a Kindergarten teacher and as a teacher you know, the learning is in the process. So do not be hard on yourself. Through this video, I am learning so much and feeling braver to move on it to socks and sweaters. I am telling myself that all you experts did not get there overnight. So thanks to you, I plan to start swatching, read patterns even if I do not understand much of it and if I do not love what is happening, rip it out and try again because I will get there. Thank you for everything you do. You are my Sunday, Wednesday treat to myself.
Loved this episode! This is exactly why I am so thankful for podcasts. I am still a fairly new knitter, but a few months ago, I started listening to podcasts, while still not knowing much about the craft or being able to follow due to the minimal knowledge of the vocabulary. But I kept listening and learning from others experiences and mistakes. This has saved me so much frustration (and money) and I’m happy to say I haven’t made too many of the usual “new knitter” mistakes. Gotta give love the comment section too and the collective experience of the community. It now takes me days to pick projects and yarn…it’s such a process, and I love every part of it.
I really like this episode. Seeing people struggle, fail, making mistakes is such a breath of fresh air in our "filter perfect social media appearance" that it immidiately makes you so much more relatable and friendly and human. I love that you are turning this frustrating experience as a cautionary tale and also way of connecting with the community. I will choose this over any other podcast that non stop has project after project all done perfectly fast and fit amazingly well...
Thank you so much Slastenushka. This means a lot to me and I enjoy sharing these sorts of things for these very reasons. We all need to be reminded that to err is human and it's ok to be human. Thank you for watching!
Your trials and tribulations enlighten me. I just did a 3" swatch and decided it was the perfect gage I needed. Maybe I should make it bigger 😅. Thanks.
Months after you sent this out I have found you...I am a very new knitter and have only really done socks and fingerless mittens. However I am obsessed with the Lulu slipover and have bought the pattern, found the yarn and was about to goooo. Thanks for this info, I will slow down and remember everything that you have said and try to only cut once!
I couldn't resist - I had to order some of the grey from Lovely Valley. Can't wait to see what you do with the bare yarn! Also, if it makes you feel any better, I had learned the word 'epitome' by reading it. Only I read it as EP-a-tome. It was YEARS before I married the the audio version to the written version. Imagine when that happened. Me: THAT'S how you say it??? *face palm*
@@WOOLNEEDLESHANDS So do I! It's engrained in my brain! I have the same issue with unique. YUN E Q. That's what happens when you learn words by reading. 😆
I never had a problem knitting flat with the method I learned from my mom. I call it Eastern European method, I think it was very popular in the USSR. The way to purl is the one you describe as an alternative in this video :) Yes, it is waaaaay easier than traditional continental method. But what you need to keep in mind - you will have reversed loops in a knitting round, meaning you need to knit through the back leg ;) It is fine for plain stockinette. The problems come when you need to do knit and purls in the same round, then I usually switch to continental knitting. I have to pull each purl stitch to make them even to knit stitches 😅 I still cannot properly handle classic continental purl.
I am a loose knitter plus my purls are even looser yet . ( I knit English …) Two things I do . Flat knitting : When knitting I make my left hand needle smaller than my right hand needle . That way when I purl back I am using the smaller needle to purl . Also When I purl I drag my needle across the other needle as I am pulling the stitch off . It seems to tighten up the stitch .
I do something called combination knitting, with western knit stitches and eastern style purls. I do have to knit through the back loop after a purl row that way, but it’s worth it to prevent rowing out.
I REALLY APPRECIATE you creating this video! Most people wouldn’t admit to their mistakes publicly, but this does emphasize the fact that we shouldn’t be so hard on ourselves. I am a new knitter, and as someone who is about to cast on my first sweater, this video came at the perfect time. The highlight for me was to make sure I swatch both flat and in the round since my pattern will include both. I really enjoy your videos and get so much from them. Thank you!
"Haste makes waste!" Oh yes, I've been there ... many, many times (face palm in shame). I've learned all my lessons the hard way that you illustrated here! It makes me feel better that even other experienced knitters have fallen into group with me!
You were so hard on yourself in this one! We all deserve grace when it comes to knitting - and words 😊 Alas I know all about rowing out. My best fix has been to knit combo style when working flat.
This is a very timely video…Thank you for pointing out what we all know but think it will be fine.. no matter how long we have been knitting 🫣😂 This very thing happened to me on a recent project. I made a baby all in one in a 3 knit 1 purl pattern. From the top to just before the crotch it was knitted flat and from there down to the crotch and the legs were in the round. The difference in my stitches was so noticeable to me. The bottom part was so much neater than the top. It is the first time I have realised my purl stitches are obviously looser than my knit stitches. In flat knit my work looks very neat and I have never questioned it - until now. I am going to experiment with using a smaller needle for my purl stitches and wrapping the other way and see how it affects my work. Always learning.. 😌
I'm a newish knitter. I've been following. Veronica (kika=nickname) for a while now, and i have heard her call out the guage variable in flat and in the round. She has also counseled her viewers on the fact that, even knit stitches and purl stitches can vary...as a remedy she suggests to use a different size needle on the purl rows to assist in more continuity of stitch guage. Kutova = 'knitting'...in Finnish. Kikakutova = Veronica knitting....roughly
Yes, I am a new knitter and I followed her beginner knit tank top tutorial on yt. It’s bottom up and starts with knitting in the round for the body and when you get to the top, she mentions how you’ll have to pay attention to your tension when you start to knit flat because it’ll probably be looser than what you knit in the round. My tank top luckily doesn’t have a noticeable transition from going round to flat because Veronika told me before starting the flat section and I knit my purls tighter
Your emotions while talking about this sweater project were quite something. I had to smile though. I tend to be very good at studying patterns and reading notes from other knitters before beginning something BUT I don't always swatch and I sometimes use a different yarn weight than what was called for in the pattern. Do I have to rip out or scrap pieces later? Heck yes. But I'm a process knitter so when that happens, I actually don't mind too much because I learn lots from the mistakes. AND make notes so I can remember them to help me make better decisions the next time. I thought this was a great topic. And good luck on your next go round 🤞🏾!
I've discovered I am a process knitter as well, and it doesn't bother me at all to frog and re-knit. I actually joke and say I'm getting more knitting for my money. One sweater, I reknit 3 times almost completely and loved every minute of it. It is now one of my favorites.
What Ive just done is even worse bacause I listened to your previous podcast and thought Im making a similar construction I should think about the difference in gauge and then forgot and ploughed on anyway and my purls are tighter so I now have a jumper with a looser bottom half. Note to self remember your words of wisdom!
I noticed my tension when knitting in stockinette was off compared to knitting in the round. My purl rows were so much looser than my knit rows. I knit continental but I figured out that if I purl by knitting backwards, the same way you’d knit left handed if you are right handed, makes my purl stitches tighter and I get a nice even tension. When I look at the wrong side of the fabric, there are no lines in between rows, it’s nice, even stitches.
Ah, Taylor, I feel your pain! Watching your pod this morning has given me strength to frog a sweater that is 80% finished. I feel broken hearted! Where I went wrong was while my horizontal gauge was on, my vertical gauge was off. Then, when it was looking too big, I hoped! This is my hard-won lesson: HOPING is a BIG, FAT WARNING that things are not going the way they should be. STOP and re asses at the first sign, the first baby idea that things are not as they should. Today, I am super deflated, not happy to have learned this lesson. Tomorrow, I’ll feel better about it all. - Hey: maybe a whole other pattern that I will dutifully swatch both ways?!
One thing I’ve found that helps with my “rowing out”- I change my yarn-tensioning method on the purl side. I give my yarn an extra wrap around my pinkie, and that extra friction is just enough to make my purl stitches tighter. Love the video! I had the same experience on my first contiguous knitting project… she’s got 11” of ease, and definitely a tv-night sweater now 😂
The way I knit would be so stressful to you 😂 Not sure i have ever made a gauge swatch! Thankfully my best friend is a very different size to me and so she has had some of my jumpers when they come out waaaay too big
I really identify with the "it will probably be okay," but more because I'm trying new things I've never done before! My husband has a ginormous head (26 in circumference) and my head isn't exactly tiny either, so I've been terrified to make either of us a hat! I'm finally making a hat for myself, and I swatched my yarn in the round, but there was still this fear with my pattern saying that it is 18 in. unstretched and "will fit a variety of head sizes." Not super helpful. I decided to add about 10% more stitches to my cast on, hoping that this won't make my hat super slouchy, but also help accommodate for my head 😂 This is where my "it will probably be okay" comes in! But I really appreciated you talking through the process and the reminder that if you've measured and considered the aspects at play, it's more likely to come out to your liking. This is all to say that while I absolutely lament with you over your sweater, you're providing many of us with food for thought. I love watching your channel ❤
You apologize - you shouldn't! I'm back to thank you most gratefully for sharing your cautionary tale. I too have wung it and then perfected my frogging skills. You remind me to swatch and block, swatch and block.
Tayler, I think you did this because it takes days to knit, wash and dry a swatch. I’m beginning to do more than one swatch at a time for upcoming projects. 😂I’m a monogamous knitter, but impatient when I’m ready to start a new project. I get it! 🧶
See… this is why I absolutely love your podcast. You’re just so genuine and honest. I haven’t dipped my toes into the sweater knitting river yet and so this is super educational for me. I feel like I remember hearing that you’re going to have a different gauge knitting flat and then knitting in the round, but I’ll actually remember it now… I think. 😂 Oh, and props for the phrase, tale of woe. I love it. Also, you can’t know all the words. When you kept talking about contiguous with a J sounding G, I thought it was just a word I had never heard of. 😂😂 And technically, it could just kind of be an alternate pronunciation, right? 😅😊🤓
Thank you so much for this episode! I was literally just about to cast on the stripe hype sweater with some single skeins of malabrigo rios I wanted to use up without even doing a gauge swatch 🤦🏻 You’ve just saved me from so much heartache. I’m so sorry and also so grateful for your mistakes and lessons learned lol
OMG Taylor! I'm so glad you put out this episode: I'm in the process of swatching for Aphra (by Isabell Kraemer) and was THIS close to taking a short cut and only do a swatch knit flat because I very likely have to go back and unravel the swatch to finish the sweater otherwise. Now you convinced me to do all the swatches: aka in pattern, in stockinette both flat and in the round. The funny thing about that: Now I don't even mind 😅 Oh I might also take a second look at sizing... so sending you all the hugs and hope this makes you feel slightly better 😘 Uta
I can barely remember to change needles to do ribbing let alone from flat to round and from knit to purl. And I just realized the next project I am gauging for is the Stockholm vest which moves from flat to in the round and I am using different stash yarns. Should be fun !
I needed this episode today! Not saying this is your situation, however when I go through what feels like a few “life losses” aka I forgot to pay a bill, got a flat tire on my bike, let the house get messy; I look for a win. Because I know I’m good at knitting I try to find “wins” in knitting. But this tends to make mistakes in knitting feel a lot worse. Long story short, 😅 I’ve bought a lot of shawl patterns on Ravelry looking for my next “win”. It gets so frustrating when you know you are great at something but you make mistakes. Great video! Also thank you for being open and honest with your mistakes. A lot of times on UA-cam it feels like every video is “I maDe TwEntY TwO sWeAtErs iN oNe DaY 🥴🥴🥴” Meanwhile I’m over here like “I bought 6 patterns in 2 hours” Lmao
Omg you really tapped into something here (and I’m so glad that this video resonated with you). You say that when other things feel like losses, you seek out your wins in your knitting (or those things that you’re good at). And I’m very much the same. This last week, though not full of actual losses, was sort of a mess in terms of schedules and just stressful and I really needed knitting to be there in a not stressful way, but it just was…all because of this sweater’s issues. I feel like you really got to the root of it here. So thank you. 😘
I’m so glad you shared this, I dislike swatching so much that I rarely do it and then I get angry with myself when my projects don’t turn out the way I hoped they would. I have gotten better at doing it, but still tempted to not do it. Your honesty helped me to realize the importance of all the little details involved in having a good outcome on a project. Thank you
I appreciate your honesty and a huge THANK YOU for all the heads up regarding the issues you've run into! I am planning to follow in your footsteps, at least yarn wise, to make this pattern. Its hard to beat the budget friendly price of both yarns. I did knit a gauge swatch flat, with the two yarns and striping as the pattern calls for. I'll be sure to knit another gauge swatch in the round before committing fully using the fisherman's wool and paton's classic worsted for this pattern.
Tayler, you are darling! No worries, young lady! We all make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. You are wonderful and amazing. Love your podcasts so much!
Please don’t beat yourself up so much. Yes you made a mistake or two. But it’s done. Make a choice to say I’ve learned from this and decide to unravel the project and move on. You are a wonderful knitter!!❤❤❤ (Give yourself a hug!)
Oh yes. Have done all of the above-mentioned and will most likely do it again. Been knitting decades.. good for you to own it and let it go. More sweaters out there. Make this one in different colors. 😊
I just casted on this sweater (1/21/24) with stash Patons worsted (ocean blue) and LB Fishermans (brown), and essentially making your sweater. I love the future videos where this is now your favorite sweater!
Oh cool! You're going to love it. The yarn is so nice and warm. I wore this sweater almost constantly on our recent trip to the Utah mountains. So cozy! Have fun!
I just went back and watched your past podcast where you spoke about the four sweater projects you were working on. You were SO excited about this one. The yarn, the concept, the neckline. Knowing how it's turning out, while watching, made my heart hurt a bit. But thank you so much for sharing! It makes me feel better knowing it happens to others, even those with experience and expertise! Sally
I have learned so much from this video, thank you for sharing. I'm about to start a new project in a couple of days, I just did 4 rows (instead of 4 inches) and said yep good enough, I'm getting gauge. I will be re-doing my gauge swatch again tonight just to make sure. I'm going to be doing my first sweater in after that next project and I am going to follow all of your advice. While it may have been hard to admit what happened. You are helping me so thank you thank you thank you!
I knit continental in a combination style, with western style knits and eastern style purls. This reduces rowing out, but mounts the purl stitches differently. The knit side needs to be knit through the back loop to straighten the stitches out. This is worth doing because there is less extra yarn pulled into each purl. There’s a Ravelry group for Combination Knitters. I sometimes will knit a swatch for my gauge in the round by just knitting a square. I do this by knitting across, then carrying the working yarn across the back of the swatch, making sure it’s not too tight, and knitting across again. Repeat until the swatch is the size you want. It’s a bit messy, but I’ve used that for sock and glove patterns where I need an accurate gauge.
Great thoughts here. I have this problem too. One thing about wrapping yarn under for the purl...it will result in a twisted stitch for the knit. This is not an issue if you knit in the back of the stitch. I have thought of doing this, but have hesitated because of issues I could face in different stitches. I ended up going with Norwegian purling. It is better, but I need to be conscious to purl tighter. The purling under and knitting in the back still intrigues me though.
Thank you so much for sharing your adventures! I'm starting my first sweater and had never even heard of swatching in the round. Your being willing to share your mistakes helped set me up for success!
Literally laughed out loud when you said a swatch, "definitely mean do more than some shoddy 1 inch strip of fabric" That would be me! And then I would rip it out cause I don't like wasting yarn Or anything else for that matter But great insight dear!!
Great points! I also had gauge problems when knitting that type of construction. I know now I need to gauge swatch flat and in the round and wash my gauge swatches. Also, I put a smaller needle on the side I am purling with.
I've been there. I knitted the Chaika (similar construction) and the difference in the tension bothered me so much that I don't wear that jumper anymore. I know you already said no to this option in the previous video, but with interchangeable needles, using one smaller needle size when purling flat solves the tension problem for me. When I change from knitting flat to knitting in the round, I just keep knitting with the same needle size I used to knit flat and that's it. Even having a smaller left needle helps the stitches to slide better. I hope this helps.
Thanks.❤️ It's funny how you mention people being "weird about it"...there were a couple of comments where I very much wanted to say, "look, don't make this weird." 😂
Hello hello hello there! A late comment, so sorry for that, and don't know if it os already mentioned, when I change from flat to circular knitting, using my interchangeable knitting needles, I change my right needle, half a size bigger. Example: if I'm knitting with 4mm needles, me left needle remains to be 4mm and my right needle a 4,5mm. Good luck!
I personally like to wear 14” of positive ease for an over sized sweater. It’s much more flattering for me than less ease. If in doubt, try some sweaters on in a store. Often, if the sleeve length looks good, the rest of the sweater does not look too big. Just my humble opinion.😊. Love your podcast !
Thank you so much Norah. This means a lot coming from you. And it’s funny you mention trying on different Sweater sizes…I was in our closet yesterday trying on all of my husband’s sweaters (that’s like 4 sweaters 🫠) to see how the oversized look feels and looks on me. Turns out, 12 inches really isn’t that much!! (I think I may be able to make this work…🤔🤔) Thank you for watching Norah. ❤️
We have ALL been their Taylor. I actually thought you mentioned not wanting to purl backwards in your last video? I have used the combination method for awhile now when I too discovered I was "Rowing out". I like it so much that I find the movement actually quicker, and even when knitting in the round, I will purl backwards and then knit through the back loop on the next round. It actually made me enjoy purling. You just have to chalk it up to "I will never make that mistake again." Anita
Thank you for being so open about the issues and sharing the lessons learned. I have yet to finish a garment ( I am in the midst of knitting a T and already stressing about the fit). I did swatch, but still not sure if I chose the correct size. We'll see.
Been there so many times. I actually think if it goes well I did something wrong. Just think of this as a large swatch. Enjoy your podcast. I consuder you very articulate.
Hello! Thank you for watching! This episode is a long one and I honestly am talking about just one project...however it's so much more than that. It's a whole cautionary tale loaded with good advice I should have heeded. 😎
Enjoy!
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If you aren’t making mistakes, you aren’t doing anything new! I’ve been knitting and crocheting and sewing since I was 9. Sometimes I frog entire blankets and robes and dusters simply because I don’t love the result. Sometimes I knit a 12x12 square just to see how close I can get by feel or eye. But ALWAYS I knit simply because my hands want to knit!
I appreciate your effort in dissecting what happened or your M&M as we say in the medical world. This is a wonderful deep dive in how to set up your best possible chance of success on a new project. I think though, maybe your heart and your hands just wanted to knit. 🤷🏻♀️ Give yourself permission to do something that doesn’t have a deadline, doesn’t have a specific outcome, isn’t about teaching, learning, or gifting.
You are a yarn dyer. Perhaps your hands just wanted to touch and feel a yarn not at the ultimate quality you demand of your own work. Your spirit wanted to remember touching the machine products of young knitters purchasing their very first wool. Do a thing only for the sake of doing it whether it’s knitting or dyeing or anything else.
Oh Tayler - don't be so hard on yourself. This is a time for positive thinking - I suggest you frog this one ASAP, throw the yarn back in your stash and put the whole thing behind you. Take what you learned and so generously shared and apply it to the next exciting new project. We have all been there and it's horrid - but this is all part of the knitting experience. Thanks for another passionate and informative podcast.
I wanted to jump into the comments to say that your video background/crafting room always gives me so much joy! The lovely vibe crafting supplies, candles, and mood lighting is such a wonderful pairing with the topic of knitting and always makes me feel calm and cosy while watching your videos :)
Thank you so much. 😊
100% why I clicked on her videos in the first place. Reminds me of old tumblr dreamy photos from 2011 🥰
Please, if you get a chance, watch “It’s a Sarah” podcast! She LOVES to knit and does these kinds of things a lot. She doesn’t care because she just frogs and does it again because she loves to knit. Don’t be so hard on yourself, you made a mistake, who doesn’t? The knitting is beautiful, the colors are lovely but your sizing is off. Here’s a hug 🤗 to peace.
I agree but look for “It is a Sarah” but she says It’s a Sarah. Lovely podcast!
Ugh- I had the whole body of my recent disaster knit. In my case it was damn row gauge that bit me - it is never important…… until it is. I also wish the designer would have said something about the importance of making sure you hit row gauge too! From now on, I will think critically about the construction of a garment and determine if row gauge matters. Interestingly enough, the sweater I was knitting was a similar construction to yours. I ripped it out, put the yarn in time out and knit something totally different with different yarn. It happens to the best of us! 😳
Yes!!! It's all knitting... and it's a shame when things don't work out. But as long as we learn smth from our mistakes, it's all good (right? 😊).
Yes!!! It’s a Sarah is so so fun. ❤
Agree!! Sarah and I share a "messy brain" and " heart jumping" inspirations❤
She will inspire you to deal with the dragons 😊
Hell I didn’t even notice, focused on the pattern and tidbits you had for it. I would have claimed to be mixing English and Spanish/French/Navajo… none the wiser.
My downfall to projects is finding yarn I want to use for a garment like a hat or sweater, then I can’t find a pattern I like with the yarn I selected. I have a whole bin of sweater amounts of yarn and can’t find a pattern that I want to use it with.
So glad you will be sourcing US wool…and from Nevada is even better!
Thank you for sharing being human being. No one is perfect. We develop mastery from making mistakes and applying what we learn. Thank you for letting us learn from your experience. I makes soooo many mistakes all the time…
As long as it doesn’t forever ruin the yarn, I consider every project practice and a swatch until it’s a success.
same
It's part of the process of figuring out what works and what won't, since every new project is different
That's so cool, using local wool. I'll have to check out that shop update. 😊😊😊
Tayler, I so appreciate that you are willing to show that you're human. You were excited to do a thing, and sometimes that excitement gets the better of us. We've all done it... we'll probably do it again, and it'll be okay in the end. We'll also make different mistakes. We're human, stuff happens. The important thing is that you made a video owning up to making mistakes, which makes you a good model for others who can be very hard on themselves and think they have to do everything perfectly the first go at it. That's worth all the tea in the world as far as I'm concerned. Keep up the good work. :)
Oh my I feel bad that you feel so bad! Don't be so hard on yourself! You should see everyone else's fumbles!! But I did learn a lot from yours today, so thanks for sharing!
Ha! I watched this while ripping back an entire finished sweater that didn’t turn out right for similar reasons. Sometimes we just don’t put in the upfront effort to make things turn out, sometimes it’s simply luck that they do! Thanks for sharing your experience.
I love this. Not that you’re ripping out of course. But the timely nature of the video. Having a hype man in the background while you’re frogging is always uplifting. 😉❤️
You are WONDERFUL!!! I loved what you had intended to create so much that I was preparing to do the same sweater using two entirely different worsted yarns. I am not great about swatching and have a tendency to jump right in and then try to fix it. You’re “ upfront” approach to presenting a podcast continues to provide worthwhile suggestions and guidance in enjoying the journey of knitting. BRAVO
This is actually a very helpful video Taylor. I am making a baby sweater. I am using Berroco Vintage in DK, however they are two different colors. They are not the same weight. After comparing the two yarns, they have two different guage recommendations. I did knit a generous guage swatch with both yarns. I decided on a compromise needle size to get gauge. I also am using two needle sizes: a larger needle for the knit side and a smaller size for my purl side to accommodate the difference in my tension. It is because of all of our conversations, (yes, I consider my time with you a two-way conversation) that I had the insight and patience to consider the tension bugs we encounter. We have all learned so much from this sweater experiment of yours. It didn't fulfil the dream you first envisioned, but it's not a fail. That's why we enjoy your podcast. You dive in head first just like we all do, and we love you for it.❤😊 Thank you.
Hey!! At 29:42 you mention wrapping your yarn in the opposite direction for your purl stitches. Please look up "combination knitting" to look into this further! When I was first learning, I used to do my purls in the "wrong" direction going under instead of over top, and it ended up twisting my stitches. I went years not realizing until I started doing cabling and was wondering why my cables looked effed. Calling this out because for stockinette it may not end up mattering, but if you employ this technique for other things it absolutely might
Combination knitting is the best way to go. Aside from saving yarn, it prevents ladders and tightens it up to make the stitches nice and equal. I'm going to try a pair of superwash yarn socks with SERIOUS Combination knitting for the ribbing and pattern so they are snugged right up. Hopefully this will prevent some of the post wash sag. Combination is truly the best!
Excellent video. Very informative. Some patterns I call " Assumption Patterns" because the designer ASSUMES I know what I am doing. I wish designers would give those extra details. I learned how to knit technically from patterns later in life. Those before me, who taught me how to knit learned intuitively. They didn't have pattern books and Ravelry. Just like my Grandma who learned how to cook without a recipe books. It makes a big difference.
You’ve got a huge swatch now 😂❤ happens to many many of us.. and often not only once 😅
This was so relatable! I wasn't laughing AT you, I was laughing WITH you. 😉But seriously, it was a great cautionary tale with loads of good advice. It's all about the growth mindset - we learn more from our mistakes than our successes. So take it as a good learning experience and knit on!! Good to know even experienced knitters struggle sometimes and I'm not alone!
I love the chaotic frustration in this video 😂 the struggle is real!
It really is! This was quite a journey. Keep watching the following episodes and you’ll see that things “evolve”. ☺️
Oh Taylor, thank you for sharing and don't give up!
In my past, I also noticed texture differences between knitting flat and knitting in the round. My solution is to choose one (or half a) needle size smaller for the row I have to purl and staying with the "normal" needle size for the row i have to knit. The result is very close to the texture when knitting in the round. If you use interchangable needles it is even easier to manage. Sorry, I am not a native speaker and I hope you get what I mean ;-)
Hi! Marica from Uppsala, Sweden! Thanks for charing so
generously the good and the bad!! So, uplifting and educational! I,m listening to you almost every episode! Your the best!! ❤🎉🥳
I learned from Irina at Fiberchats that knitting for hours, then realizing you've made mistakes, with a subsequent frog is NEVER wasted time. You just get double the entertainment value out of the yarn.
We all have those projects that stall our enthusiasm. I was so eager when I started my first pair of colourwork mittens. Gorgeous yarn and a cute polar bear pattern. Did a gauge swatch, perfect! Started the right mitten, but couldn't get it over my wrist so frogged and used my next size up in needles. Pattern wasn't as crisp but still good. Finished mitten then started on left one. No issues. Well, i have yet to wear them 2 years later. There is no gusset for the thumbs so it fits perfectly if my thumbs were frozen to my palm. The polar bears are sitting quietly in my ex-salad bowl turned yarn bowl with the remaining yarn waiting for me to start over. I have to redo my gauge swatch on the first needles to get the best stitch definition, add stitches on either side of my hand to ensure a good fit, and figure out how to add in a thumb gusset. It may sit there thru another winter.
I wish I could help you out with your sweater dilemmas but I'm a newbie to sweaters. As for pronouncing words correctly, I speak with a Canadian prairies accent and get words wrong all the time ... according to my fellow Canadians on both coasts and everywhere in between. Lol.
Taylor, thank you so much for being brave enough to share your stumbles and struggles with us. I ran into many of the same issues on sweaters I have made and being a fairly new knitter without a community to go to with questions I thought I had made a mistake. I still wear and love the sweaters, mistakes and all. Also, we all mess up words it's no big deal...I forgot the word spoon a few months ago and called it a food shovel. It's all good, and we all still love you. Thanks for being here.
Oh, am I in this zone this year. For the last several years all of my projects have turned out fine and to a standard I can live with. For whatever reason (I ran out of luck?) my projects this year have been hit-or-miss. Maybe because I've been feeling more confident because of all of those successes and therefore am taking more risks? And those risks are NOT working out. BUT I am learning so much. So, thank you for this encouragement! I will consider this year my "masters year" and am looking forward to getting an advanced degree LOLLLL
Thank you, Tayler, for this really useful and helpful podcast. I had not heard of the term 'rowing out' either but did know my purl rows were looser than my knit rows. I change down a size for purl rows and try to knit a little tighter to compensate for this; I do usually go through the purl rows tightening them up on the reverse of the fabric with a tapestry needle when finished. I will try out the under wrap you mentioned to see if that works - thank you.
Your 'wasted time' is not wasted - you have learnt loads and passed that valuable knowledge on to us so we wont waste time in future. I certainly have learned so much (including a new word - "contiguously") as well as a new technique, a new term and that rowing out is a common issue and not my being a rubbish purl-er. I knit, mainly, accessories so gauge isn't an issue for me but, will definitely store those nuggets away in the future. Thanks for a lovely, informative, fun and easy to understand podcast channel that informs but never talks down - you have got the tone just right.
I hadn't either until I saw the comments from the last video. Then Andrea Mowry talked about it on her podcast the next day answering a viewers question! Funny how that works and great to learn something new!
Thanks! I like this pattern and want to knit it - sharing your experience is so helpful.
You are healing the beginner knitter in me who just did projects willy nilly with no regard to fiber, weight, gauge, or blocking and REGULARLY made things wayy too big.
My inner kid thanks you ❤️
Oh, we've all been here! 🙂 Haven't read through all the comments but, in case no one else has mentioned it, if you decide to wrap your purls the other way (which is a great idea), you'll need to knit through the back loop on the knits of the following row...
This was such a genuinely helpful video. I've crocheted for years but am a much more recent knitter. I remember all of the things I did wrong crocheting my first sweater that I wish I would have realized before I started. You don't know what you don't know sometimes. So, this video gave me lots of good information for what to pay attention to for knitting sweaters. I'm sorry you were so frustrated but I'm grateful I could learn vicariously through you.
Ribbit ribbit ribbit! Not wasted time. Look what all you’ve learned and been able to share with us!
What a timely episode. As I was starting the video I realized you were speaking directly to me. This is because (1) I just started a striped sweater, (2) my gauge swatch was done in the round about 1-2 inches, (3) my yarn was two different manufacturers (although both DK as the pattern suggests) and my gauge swatch, as small as it was, only consisted of the MC of the sweater and not the contrasting stripe and was 1 stitch per 4" off from the pattern suggestion (it will block out :)) Oops. I have been duly chastised and will now do a proper swatch using both yarns and making sure I get the proper gauge and not something kinda close. Thanks, Tayler. PS, don't apologize for mispronunciations. We all do it. Even English majors!
Love that you are willing to "ramble on" about your learning errors.
Just something I learned years ago when knitting stockinette flat, use a smaller size needle for your purl rows.
I only use circs now and will put smaller needle on my "purl" side.
Then when switching to in the round needles are the same.
Always look forward to your podcasts and rambles.
I'm finally able to come back to knitting after a bit of a hiatus. Your videos keep me company as I work on my projects and I learn a great deal from your content! Thank you!
This is so generous Gabriela. Thank you. I’m so glad you’re enjoying the videos. Happy knitting! ❤️❤️❤️
I think this happens to all of us. Becoming so excited that we throw away everything that stands in the way of casting on this new wonderful project. I frogged different projects for the same reason and normally I swatch now very carefully, but yeah, sometimes I'm faster with casting on than with preparations.
Yup, I hear you! I think most knitters have an Oopsie like this.
Set the yarn/project in a corner. Out of sight. Let it marinate.
Now, make another ‘thing’. Take the Lessons you’ve just learned & put them to good use. Don’t beat yourself up over this. Time and separation will heal That. Stripe. Debacle.
Pick other colors, make a little top. Make a pair of socks. Keep on knittin’!!! You’ll be fine!😊
Hello! Kutovakika has a video about tips- and in the tips she suggests going down a size on the Purl needle and regular for the knitting size - so a different needle on each side of the cable
Hi Tayler- I always wait for your podcasts as I find you to be so real and as a very new knitter to garments I am always afraid to approach them and think that all you knitters are amazing. When I would get frustrated with myself, my aunt would always say, you are human and boy did that help. Growth comes from making mistakes. I was a Kindergarten teacher and as a teacher you know, the learning is in the process. So do not be hard on yourself. Through this video, I am learning so much and feeling braver to move on it to socks and sweaters. I am telling myself that all you experts did not get there overnight. So thanks to you, I plan to start swatching, read patterns even if I do not understand much of it and if I do not love what is happening, rip it out and try again because I will get there. Thank you for everything you do. You are my Sunday, Wednesday treat to myself.
Oh Taylor, I do love you ❤ Thank you for sharing. Hugs from Sweden xx
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Loved this episode! This is exactly why I am so thankful for podcasts. I am still a fairly new knitter, but a few months ago, I started listening to podcasts, while still not knowing much about the craft or being able to follow due to the minimal knowledge of the vocabulary. But I kept listening and learning from others experiences and mistakes. This has saved me so much frustration (and money) and I’m happy to say I haven’t made too many of the usual “new knitter” mistakes. Gotta give love the comment section too and the collective experience of the community. It now takes me days to pick projects and yarn…it’s such a process, and I love every part of it.
I really like this episode. Seeing people struggle, fail, making mistakes is such a breath of fresh air in our "filter perfect social media appearance" that it immidiately makes you so much more relatable and friendly and human. I love that you are turning this frustrating experience as a cautionary tale and also way of connecting with the community. I will choose this over any other podcast that non stop has project after project all done perfectly fast and fit amazingly well...
Thank you so much Slastenushka. This means a lot to me and I enjoy sharing these sorts of things for these very reasons. We all need to be reminded that to err is human and it's ok to be human. Thank you for watching!
I sorry for the amount of times I laughed during this episode. All good points before starting a project. I would frog it and knit some pumpkins.
Your trials and tribulations enlighten me. I just did a 3" swatch and decided it was the perfect gage I needed. Maybe I should make it bigger 😅.
Thanks.
Don't apologize for others unkind remarks. You're quite lovely!❤❤❤ I just found you so lucky!
Months after you sent this out I have found you...I am a very new knitter and have only really done socks and fingerless mittens. However I am obsessed with the Lulu slipover and have bought the pattern, found the yarn and was about to goooo. Thanks for this info, I will slow down and remember everything that you have said and try to only cut once!
I couldn't resist - I had to order some of the grey from Lovely Valley. Can't wait to see what you do with the bare yarn! Also, if it makes you feel any better, I had learned the word 'epitome' by reading it. Only I read it as EP-a-tome. It was YEARS before I married the the audio version to the written version. Imagine when that happened. Me: THAT'S how you say it??? *face palm*
Omg Kelly! I had the same experience with epitome. Like even now, if/when I write it, I say it phonetically. 😂😂
@@WOOLNEEDLESHANDS So do I! It's engrained in my brain! I have the same issue with unique. YUN E Q. That's what happens when you learn words by reading. 😆
That was my experience with "potpourri."
@@tonifinley4872 Yes! 🤣
I never had a problem knitting flat with the method I learned from my mom. I call it Eastern European method, I think it was very popular in the USSR. The way to purl is the one you describe as an alternative in this video :) Yes, it is waaaaay easier than traditional continental method. But what you need to keep in mind - you will have reversed loops in a knitting round, meaning you need to knit through the back leg ;) It is fine for plain stockinette. The problems come when you need to do knit and purls in the same round, then I usually switch to continental knitting. I have to pull each purl stitch to make them even to knit stitches 😅 I still cannot properly handle classic continental purl.
I am a loose knitter plus my purls are even looser yet . ( I knit English …)
Two things I do .
Flat knitting :
When knitting I make my left hand needle smaller than my right hand needle .
That way when I purl back I am using the smaller needle to purl .
Also
When I purl I drag my needle across the other needle as I am pulling the stitch off . It seems to tighten up the stitch .
I do something called combination knitting, with western knit stitches and eastern style purls. I do have to knit through the back loop after a purl row that way, but it’s worth it to prevent rowing out.
Been there..done that! Love your podcasts😊
I REALLY APPRECIATE you creating this video! Most people wouldn’t admit to their mistakes publicly, but this does emphasize the fact that we shouldn’t be so hard on ourselves. I am a new knitter, and as someone who is about to cast on my first sweater, this video came at the perfect time. The highlight for me was to make sure I swatch both flat and in the round since my pattern will include both. I really enjoy your videos and get so much from them. Thank you!
"Haste makes waste!" Oh yes, I've been there ... many, many times (face palm in shame). I've learned all my lessons the hard way that you illustrated here! It makes me feel better that even other experienced knitters have fallen into group with me!
You were so hard on yourself in this one! We all deserve grace when it comes to knitting - and words 😊 Alas I know all about rowing out. My best fix has been to knit combo style when working flat.
This is a very timely video…Thank you for pointing out what we all know but think it will be fine.. no matter how long we have been knitting 🫣😂
This very thing happened to me on a recent project. I made a baby all in one in a 3 knit 1 purl pattern. From the top to just before the crotch it was knitted flat and from there down to the crotch and the legs were in the round. The difference in my stitches was so noticeable to me. The bottom part was so much neater than the top. It is the first time I have realised my purl stitches are obviously looser than my knit stitches.
In flat knit my work looks very neat and I have never questioned it - until now. I am going to experiment with using a smaller needle for my purl stitches and wrapping the other way and see how it affects my work. Always learning.. 😌
I'm a newish knitter. I've been following. Veronica (kika=nickname) for a while now, and i have heard her call out the guage variable in flat and in the round. She has also counseled her viewers on the fact that, even knit stitches and purl stitches can vary...as a remedy she suggests to use a different size needle on the purl rows to assist in more continuity of stitch guage.
Kutova = 'knitting'...in Finnish.
Kikakutova = Veronica knitting....roughly
Yes, I am a new knitter and I followed her beginner knit tank top tutorial on yt. It’s bottom up and starts with knitting in the round for the body and when you get to the top, she mentions how you’ll have to pay attention to your tension when you start to knit flat because it’ll probably be looser than what you knit in the round. My tank top luckily doesn’t have a noticeable transition from going round to flat because Veronika told me before starting the flat section and I knit my purls tighter
Your emotions while talking about this sweater project were quite something. I had to smile though. I tend to be very good at studying patterns and reading notes from other knitters before beginning something BUT I don't always swatch and I sometimes use a different yarn weight than what was called for in the pattern. Do I have to rip out or scrap pieces later? Heck yes. But I'm a process knitter so when that happens, I actually don't mind too much because I learn lots from the mistakes. AND make notes so I can remember them to help me make better decisions the next time.
I thought this was a great topic. And good luck on your next go round 🤞🏾!
I've discovered I am a process knitter as well, and it doesn't bother me at all to frog and re-knit. I actually joke and say I'm getting more knitting for my money. One sweater, I reknit 3 times almost completely and loved every minute of it. It is now one of my favorites.
What Ive just done is even worse bacause I listened to your previous podcast and thought Im making a similar construction I should think about the difference in gauge and then forgot and ploughed on anyway and my purls are tighter so I now have a jumper with a looser bottom half. Note to self remember your words of wisdom!
I noticed my tension when knitting in stockinette was off compared to knitting in the round. My purl rows were so much looser than my knit rows. I knit continental but I figured out that if I purl by knitting backwards, the same way you’d knit left handed if you are right handed, makes my purl stitches tighter and I get a nice even tension. When I look at the wrong side of the fabric, there are no lines in between rows, it’s nice, even stitches.
Ah, Taylor, I feel your pain! Watching your pod this morning has given me strength to frog a sweater that is 80% finished. I feel broken hearted! Where I went wrong was while my horizontal gauge was on, my vertical gauge was off. Then, when it was looking too big, I hoped!
This is my hard-won lesson: HOPING is a BIG, FAT WARNING that things are not going the way they should be. STOP and re asses at the first sign, the first baby idea that things are not as they should.
Today, I am super deflated, not happy to have learned this lesson. Tomorrow, I’ll feel better about it all.
- Hey: maybe a whole other pattern that I will dutifully swatch both ways?!
I feel you completely. And just know, you’re not alone. ❤️
Great episode!
Thank you so much. ❤
Every mistake is a learning opportunity. I get A LOT of learning opportunities myself 😆 And practice makes progress!
One thing I’ve found that helps with my “rowing out”- I change my yarn-tensioning method on the purl side. I give my yarn an extra wrap around my pinkie, and that extra friction is just enough to make my purl stitches tighter.
Love the video! I had the same experience on my first contiguous knitting project… she’s got 11” of ease, and definitely a tv-night sweater now 😂
The way I knit would be so stressful to you 😂
Not sure i have ever made a gauge swatch! Thankfully my best friend is a very different size to me and so she has had some of my jumpers when they come out waaaay too big
I really identify with the "it will probably be okay," but more because I'm trying new things I've never done before! My husband has a ginormous head (26 in circumference) and my head isn't exactly tiny either, so I've been terrified to make either of us a hat! I'm finally making a hat for myself, and I swatched my yarn in the round, but there was still this fear with my pattern saying that it is 18 in. unstretched and "will fit a variety of head sizes." Not super helpful. I decided to add about 10% more stitches to my cast on, hoping that this won't make my hat super slouchy, but also help accommodate for my head 😂 This is where my "it will probably be okay" comes in! But I really appreciated you talking through the process and the reminder that if you've measured and considered the aspects at play, it's more likely to come out to your liking. This is all to say that while I absolutely lament with you over your sweater, you're providing many of us with food for thought. I love watching your channel ❤
You apologize - you shouldn't! I'm back to thank you most gratefully for sharing your cautionary tale. I too have wung it and then perfected my frogging skills. You remind me to swatch and block, swatch and block.
I am SO glad you were able to take something away from this. Thank you for watching! ❤️❤️
Tayler, I think you did this because it takes days to knit, wash and dry a swatch. I’m beginning to do more than one swatch at a time for upcoming projects. 😂I’m a monogamous knitter, but impatient when I’m ready to start a new project. I get it! 🧶
Great podcast 🧶😏😁
See… this is why I absolutely love your podcast. You’re just so genuine and honest. I haven’t dipped my toes into the sweater knitting river yet and so this is super educational for me. I feel like I remember hearing that you’re going to have a different gauge knitting flat and then knitting in the round, but I’ll actually remember it now… I think. 😂
Oh, and props for the phrase, tale of woe. I love it. Also, you can’t know all the words. When you kept talking about contiguous with a J sounding G, I thought it was just a word I had never heard of. 😂😂 And technically, it could just kind of be an alternate pronunciation, right? 😅😊🤓
Thank you so much for this episode! I was literally just about to cast on the stripe hype sweater with some single skeins of malabrigo rios I wanted to use up without even doing a gauge swatch 🤦🏻 You’ve just saved me from so much heartache. I’m so sorry and also so grateful for your mistakes and lessons learned lol
OMG Taylor! I'm so glad you put out this episode: I'm in the process of swatching for Aphra (by Isabell Kraemer) and was THIS close to taking a short cut and only do a swatch knit flat because I very likely have to go back and unravel the swatch to finish the sweater otherwise. Now you convinced me to do all the swatches: aka in pattern, in stockinette both flat and in the round. The funny thing about that: Now I don't even mind 😅
Oh I might also take a second look at sizing... so sending you all the hugs and hope this makes you feel slightly better 😘
Uta
I can barely remember to change needles to do ribbing let alone from flat to round and from knit to purl. And I just realized the next project I am gauging for is the Stockholm vest which moves from flat to in the round and I am using different stash yarns. Should be fun !
😂
Hey listen, it’ll most likely be totally fine. And should it not be fine, just come back here and listen to me moan and groan about my own issues. 😅😉
I needed this episode today! Not saying this is your situation, however when I go through what feels like a few “life losses” aka I forgot to pay a bill, got a flat tire on my bike, let the house get messy; I look for a win. Because I know I’m good at knitting I try to find “wins” in knitting.
But this tends to make mistakes in knitting feel a lot worse. Long story short, 😅 I’ve bought a lot of shawl patterns on Ravelry looking for my next “win”. It gets so frustrating when you know you are great at something but you make mistakes.
Great video! Also thank you for being open and honest with your mistakes. A lot of times on UA-cam it feels like every video is “I maDe TwEntY TwO sWeAtErs iN oNe DaY 🥴🥴🥴”
Meanwhile I’m over here like “I bought 6 patterns in 2 hours” Lmao
Omg you really tapped into something here (and I’m so glad that this video resonated with you). You say that when other things feel like losses, you seek out your wins in your knitting (or those things that you’re good at). And I’m very much the same. This last week, though not full of actual losses, was sort of a mess in terms of schedules and just stressful and I really needed knitting to be there in a not stressful way, but it just was…all because of this sweater’s issues. I feel like you really got to the root of it here. So thank you. 😘
As beginner it is nice to see that I'm not the only one that makes mistakes. I appreciate your honesty, and helping others learn from your mistakes.❤❤
As a person who doesn't live in the US I've learnt a new phrase this morning, Contiguous United States. I had to go googling.
I’m so glad you shared this, I dislike swatching so much that I rarely do it and then I get angry with myself when my projects don’t turn out the way I hoped they would. I have gotten better at doing it, but still tempted to not do it. Your honesty helped me to realize the importance of all the little details involved in having a good outcome on a project. Thank you
I appreciate your honesty and a huge THANK YOU for all the heads up regarding the issues you've run into! I am planning to follow in your footsteps, at least yarn wise, to make this pattern. Its hard to beat the budget friendly price of both yarns. I did knit a gauge swatch flat, with the two yarns and striping as the pattern calls for. I'll be sure to knit another gauge swatch in the round before committing fully using the fisherman's wool and paton's classic worsted for this pattern.
You Are Human! Thanks for sharing! Great lesson
Tayler, you are darling! No worries, young lady! We all make mistakes and hopefully learn from them. You are wonderful and amazing. Love your podcasts so much!
Thank you so much Susie. It's so nice to have you here. ❤️
Please don’t beat yourself up so much. Yes you made a mistake or two. But it’s done. Make a choice to say I’ve learned from this and decide to unravel the project and move on. You are a wonderful knitter!!❤❤❤ (Give yourself a hug!)
🌴☀️ it’s throw back Monday for me on WNH🤭 I made the dress in cotton boy is it wide but I love it still ☀️🌴
Oh yes. Have done all of the above-mentioned and will most likely do it again. Been knitting decades.. good for you to own it and let it go. More sweaters out there. Make this one in different colors. 😊
I just casted on this sweater (1/21/24) with stash Patons worsted (ocean blue) and LB Fishermans (brown), and essentially making your sweater. I love the future videos where this is now your favorite sweater!
Oh cool! You're going to love it. The yarn is so nice and warm. I wore this sweater almost constantly on our recent trip to the Utah mountains. So cozy! Have fun!
I just went back and watched your past podcast where you spoke about the four sweater projects you were working on. You were SO excited about this one. The yarn, the concept, the neckline. Knowing how it's turning out, while watching, made my heart hurt a bit. But thank you so much for sharing! It makes me feel better knowing it happens to others, even those with experience and expertise!
Sally
The thing I take from this is to be like the ents from Lord of the Rings: Do not be too hasty. XD Thanks for sharing!
Yes. Be like the Ents. 100% yes. 🌳🌳
😂 you're funny
"throwing caution to the wind, casting on with wild unbridled reckless abandon" 😅
I love that for you
I have learned so much from this video, thank you for sharing. I'm about to start a new project in a couple of days, I just did 4 rows (instead of 4 inches) and said yep good enough, I'm getting gauge. I will be re-doing my gauge swatch again tonight just to make sure. I'm going to be doing my first sweater in after that next project and I am going to follow all of your advice. While it may have been hard to admit what happened. You are helping me so thank you thank you thank you!
I knit continental in a combination style, with western style knits and eastern style purls. This reduces rowing out, but mounts the purl stitches differently. The knit side needs to be knit through the back loop to straighten the stitches out. This is worth doing because there is less extra yarn pulled into each purl. There’s a Ravelry group for Combination Knitters.
I sometimes will knit a swatch for my gauge in the round by just knitting a square. I do this by knitting across, then carrying the working yarn across the back of the swatch, making sure it’s not too tight, and knitting across again. Repeat until the swatch is the size you want. It’s a bit messy, but I’ve used that for sock and glove patterns where I need an accurate gauge.
Great thoughts here. I have this problem too. One thing about wrapping yarn under for the purl...it will result in a twisted stitch for the knit. This is not an issue if you knit in the back of the stitch. I have thought of doing this, but have hesitated because of issues I could face in different stitches. I ended up going with Norwegian purling. It is better, but I need to be conscious to purl tighter. The purling under and knitting in the back still intrigues me though.
Thank you so much for sharing your adventures! I'm starting my first sweater and had never even heard of swatching in the round. Your being willing to share your mistakes helped set me up for success!
Literally laughed out loud when you said a swatch, "definitely mean do more than some shoddy 1 inch strip of fabric" That would be me! And then I would rip it out cause I don't like wasting yarn Or anything else for that matter
But great insight dear!!
Great points! I also had gauge problems when knitting that type of construction. I know now I need to gauge swatch flat and in the round and wash my gauge swatches. Also, I put a smaller needle on the side I am purling with.
Thanks for sharing!! I still think that is a lovely color combination!
You could frog it back to just where you did the armhole increases and skip the increases altogether so that it’s not as wide there. It’s salvageable!
I've been there. I knitted the Chaika (similar construction) and the difference in the tension bothered me so much that I don't wear that jumper anymore. I know you already said no to this option in the previous video, but with interchangeable needles, using one smaller needle size when purling flat solves the tension problem for me. When I change from knitting flat to knitting in the round, I just keep knitting with the same needle size I used to knit flat and that's it. Even having a smaller left needle helps the stitches to slide better. I hope this helps.
No worries on "contiguous." I talk for a living, and I make mistakes too. I'm sorry if people are being weird about it.
Thanks.❤️ It's funny how you mention people being "weird about it"...there were a couple of comments where I very much wanted to say, "look, don't make this weird." 😂
I am so happy you made these mistakes. Only because I have made them too. Nice to know I am not alone.
An invaluable session! Thank you.
Hello hello hello there! A late comment, so sorry for that, and don't know if it os already mentioned, when I change from flat to circular knitting, using my interchangeable knitting needles, I change my right needle, half a size bigger. Example: if I'm knitting with 4mm needles, me left needle remains to be 4mm and my right needle a 4,5mm. Good luck!
I personally like to wear 14” of positive ease for an over sized sweater. It’s much more flattering for me than less ease. If in doubt, try some sweaters on in a store. Often, if the sleeve length looks good, the rest of the sweater does not look too big. Just my humble opinion.😊. Love your podcast !
Thank you so much Norah. This means a lot coming from you. And it’s funny you mention trying on different Sweater sizes…I was in our closet yesterday trying on all of my husband’s sweaters (that’s like 4 sweaters 🫠) to see how the oversized look feels and looks on me. Turns out, 12 inches really isn’t that much!! (I think I may be able to make this work…🤔🤔)
Thank you for watching Norah. ❤️
We have ALL been their Taylor. I actually thought you mentioned not wanting to purl backwards in your last video? I have used the combination method for awhile now when I too discovered I was "Rowing out". I like it so much that I find the movement actually quicker, and even when knitting in the round, I will purl backwards and then knit through the back loop on the next round. It actually made me enjoy purling. You just have to chalk it up to "I will never make that mistake again." Anita
consider the sweater a super thorough gauge swatch 😆
Thank you for being so open about the issues and sharing the lessons learned. I have yet to finish a garment ( I am in the midst of knitting a T and already stressing about the fit). I did swatch, but still not sure if I chose the correct size. We'll see.
Been there so many times. I actually think if it goes well I did something wrong. Just think of this as a large swatch. Enjoy your podcast. I consuder you very articulate.