evansdrad the Elves didn’t support the battle at helmsdeep. They won’t take up arms unless their land was invaded because they had lost so many during the last alliance and because Sauron would act out much more aggressively and unpredictably if he expected an elf invasion
Correction 1: It was Erkenbrand not Eomer who led foot soldiers to Helm's Deep. Correction 2: Dead Men of Dunharrow defeated the Umbar in the south, allowing Aragorn to bring more soldiers from southern Gondor to fight at the Pelennor Fields. Correction 3: The King of Dale after the war was Bard II, not Brand II
Things go like every creation of Eru have their meaning and purpose. Eru created the Elves and with their craftsmanship and magic they created artefacts that defined history of Middle Earth: Silmarils, Palantiri, necklace of Nauglameur, ring of Barahir, 19 Rings of power; the legendary realms of Gondolin, Doriah and Nagothrond and their heroes and swords went down in history as the greatest of all. Their legacies and wisdom would live on to later Ages carried by Galadriel and Elrond. On the other hand Men the second-born of Eru awoke much later when the Elves were the dominant race in ME with the on-going war with Morgoth and many swore allegiance to the High Kings of Noldor. Later with the rise of Numenor as the strongest nation in the world, pride and greed of immortality would change the course of history in ME. With the fall of Numenor came the birth of Great Kingdoms of Men: Gondor and Arnor, their blood and sweat would be the dominant force fighting the dark foes for thousand of years. After the War of the Rings the Age of Men would finally spring upon Middle Earth. Elves were the arch-enemy of first dark lord Morgoth while Men were the bitter enemy of second dark lord Sauron. Both dark lords hated and feared Elves and Men respectively. Dragons were bred by Morgoth, his greatest weapons and we know that all the named dragons of ME were all slew by Men, no Elves or Dwarves ever killed a dragon, with only exception of Earendil who were born half-Elven and he is too half-Men. If you guys look at it this way as if Eru the had foreseen the future and that every lives he created have its purpose of existence.
Everyone gives Isildur a lot of sh*t for not destroying the ring, but he did a lot of good before the War of the Ring, in saving the White Tree and establishing the fortress Minas Ithil. And also, at the Crack of Doom, no one, not even Sauron, if he chose to, could destroy the Ring there. That's why Eru had to "push" Gollum when he bit the ring off Frodo's finger.
I think Gandalf assumed Bilbo picked up one of the minor rings, most likely from one of the dwarves. He wanted to see if a Hobbit could resist its power, unaware of it being the one true ring. This proved as an even greater test, as it took Bilbo decades to become corrupted. Even then, he had no trouble handing it over. Gandalf knew from this that giving the ring to Frodo or another Hobbit was the best idea, as giving it to a human, they would be corrupted in seconds; and elves, maybe days.
Southern Gondor was described as a deserted and contested land in the books. The corsairs of Umbar raided the gondorian coast and claimed the port city of Pelargir during the war of the ring.
I was confused on why Saruman became a crime boss in the shire, but that was because I saw the extended version of Return of the King. Let me tell you there is NO other way to watch these movies without watching the extendeds.
Were there any Elves or Dwarves left on Middle-Earth ? .It feels like all the magic left that world after Sauron was defeated .Like it was all barren , a wasteland .No more magic , no more foes to vanquish , no more people to save and ( Something that would at one point make Bilbo Baggings glad and heartbroken at another ) no more adventures .Bilbo wrote his poem saying goodbye to Middle Earth .And so , we part too .
That's the point, and that's why all the Elves were so sad in the book, cause their time was ending as was magic. Thus the time of men began and our real world timeline begins.
Is there any knowledge of what happened Curumo/Saruman other than his spirit was buffeted by winds and prevented from returning to Aman? Is he manifested for the Dagor Dagorath?
Saruman "should" have been called to Halls of Mandos, but he was barred from returning. His spirit was left naked, powerless and wandering, never to return to Middle-earth as Tolkien indicates: "Whereas Curunir was cast down, and utterly humbled, and perished at last by the hand of an oppressed slave; and his spirit went whither-soever it was doomed to go, and to Middle-earth, whether naked or embodied, came never back."
The part in the movie with Isildur leaving with the Ring was a bit stupid. There he is in Mount Doom with Elrond right behind him and he goes "no." And then what? They just let him walk out of there, order his man to pack it up an ride home while everyone looks on and does nothing? Elrond and whoever else was there could have easily solved the whole thing right there by just knocking him out.
You still manage to impress after all those videos. I thought your work on ASoIaF was excellent, but the LotR Videos just top that. The lore is so rich and even a hardcore fan misses many historical aspects from the appendices and the later additional texts...nevertheless you manage to get nearly everything right and still maintain your precise but quick style. Imo your work is some of the best content regarding fantasy / scifi lore. Thank you so much for your effort! 👍
These were all great! But u did leave out the end of gimli and legolas how they went to the Crystal caves together and eventually sailed west together long after the last host and gimli elf friend was the first dwarf to be aloud into valinor...
Question: did the valar castrated the Istari or something? why didn't saruman used all of his power after changing sides? was he afraid of even greater punishment? was he unable? was that all a maiar is capable of that they can be killed by a nobody human?
With all due respect, I disagree. The point of the last battle in LOTR is that even the Hobbits and their lands are not immune to war and when crisis comes, nobody is immune to it. It was a final way of testing the 4 Hobbits who showed how much they had learned while also showing that the Shire had to stand up to fight as well. Sure, the movie death is more "epic" or whatever, but thematically, this works better. Also, the point of Saruman is that he is pretty pathetic. He thinks he can somehow become a god by becoming "Saruman of Many Colors" (a part of the book unfortunately left out of the movies). To see such a man bring himself so low to me depicts just how pathetic having a god complex really is.
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They did, they defended Mirkwood from the Orcs of Dol Guldur, and would have been the first line of defense if the Easterlings defeated the Dwarves in the North.
Lithouse Studios probably the only ring wraiths as there is only 9 rings for 9 kings to become ring wraith while there still might be other wraiths under Saurons command just like how Frodo almost became a wraith
@@jeambeam3173 Like in the Barrow-downs for example, the Witch-King of Angmar had sent some kind of evil spirits to haunt the tombs of men for two millenia.
I don’t know if it’s his accent or if he is over-pronouncing the names. If it’s the former then fair enough, if it’s the latter it’s really distracting... At first I thought he was actually correctly pronouncing them with the real accents and phonetics but then he pronounced Dain’s name as if it rhymes with line instead of lane, it which point I was like ‘huh?’
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*******. Elendil and Gilgalad killed Sauron, and died themselves in the process. Isildur cut the ring from Sauron’s dead hand. Isildur didn’t kill Sauron or anything like that. He was simply the one who was there. Let’s forget the Peter Jackson version.
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evansdrad the Elves didn’t support the battle at helmsdeep. They won’t take up arms unless their land was invaded because they had lost so many during the last alliance and because Sauron would act out much more aggressively and unpredictably if he expected an elf invasion
Correction 1: It was Erkenbrand not Eomer who led foot soldiers to Helm's Deep.
Correction 2: Dead Men of Dunharrow defeated the Umbar in the south, allowing Aragorn to bring more soldiers from southern Gondor to fight at the Pelennor Fields.
Correction 3: The King of Dale after the war was Bard II, not Brand II
CivilizationEx Correction 3: Bard II became King not Brand II who was previously slain in the Battle of Dale
I love how this guy admits he was wrong
Things go like every creation of Eru have their meaning and purpose. Eru created the Elves and with their craftsmanship and magic they created artefacts that defined history of Middle Earth: Silmarils, Palantiri, necklace of Nauglameur, ring of Barahir, 19 Rings of power; the legendary realms of Gondolin, Doriah and Nagothrond and their heroes and swords went down in history as the greatest of all. Their legacies and wisdom would live on to later Ages carried by Galadriel and Elrond.
On the other hand Men the second-born of Eru awoke much later when the Elves were the dominant race in ME with the on-going war with Morgoth and many swore allegiance to the High Kings of Noldor. Later with the rise of Numenor as the strongest nation in the world, pride and greed of immortality would change the course of history in ME. With the fall of Numenor came the birth of Great Kingdoms of Men: Gondor and Arnor, their blood and sweat would be the dominant force fighting the dark foes for thousand of years. After the War of the Rings the Age of Men would finally spring upon Middle Earth.
Elves were the arch-enemy of first dark lord Morgoth while Men were the bitter enemy of second dark lord Sauron. Both dark lords hated and feared Elves and Men respectively. Dragons were bred by Morgoth, his greatest weapons and we know that all the named dragons of ME were all slew by Men, no Elves or Dwarves ever killed a dragon, with only exception of Earendil who were born half-Elven and he is too half-Men.
If you guys look at it this way as if Eru the had foreseen the future and that every lives he created have its purpose of existence.
it's probably just J.R.R. Tolkien being a Genius the likes of which may never be seen again.
@@attilathechilla.1383 And when one remenbers the STUPID ammounts of retconning present in The Hobbit triology that make me cringe...
Everyone gives Isildur a lot of sh*t for not destroying the ring, but he did a lot of good before the War of the Ring, in saving the White Tree and establishing the fortress Minas Ithil. And also, at the Crack of Doom, no one, not even Sauron, if he chose to, could destroy the Ring there. That's why Eru had to "push" Gollum when he bit the ring off Frodo's finger.
Dude, without a fucking doubt, you are the best LOTR youtuber. You make it so easy to understand and learn, thank you!
14:40 "A WIZARD IS NEVER LATE. NOR IS HE EARLY. HE ARRIVES PRECISELY WHEN HE NEEDS TO."
The quote is "..precisely when he means to."
@@stepheningle6225 my apologies.
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Excellent video as usual. You never disappoint. Thank you.
The amount of work it must take to produce this content is insane. I'm thinking about 100 hours for this video.
I think Gandalf assumed Bilbo picked up one of the minor rings, most likely from one of the dwarves. He wanted to see if a Hobbit could resist its power, unaware of it being the one true ring. This proved as an even greater test, as it took Bilbo decades to become corrupted. Even then, he had no trouble handing it over. Gandalf knew from this that giving the ring to Frodo or another Hobbit was the best idea, as giving it to a human, they would be corrupted in seconds; and elves, maybe days.
He did, if one would have read the books.
I know that it doesn't bring any glory to talk like that(but I still read the books).
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After listening to your telling of the first age, I was sorry to see you glossed over the story of the second age, the downfall of Numenor.
its a different video :)
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He just glossed over it to set up the third age
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Southern Gondor was described as a deserted and contested land in the books. The corsairs of Umbar raided the gondorian coast and claimed the port city of Pelargir during the war of the ring.
I was confused on why Saruman became a crime boss in the shire, but that was because I saw the extended version of Return of the King. Let me tell you there is NO other way to watch these movies without watching the extendeds.
This is cool, thanks for finally making a video about this. Please keep up the great work.
best explanation of LOTR I ve ever seen
Imagine making up a whole world history with details about wars, battles, kings, their affairs and quests.
Never read the book's and I always wondered about those blue wizards they mentioned in the movie's.
@@jongreenleaf1000 You my friend have peaked my interest.
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I wonder if Sauron's and Saruman's spirits met each other to divise a plan to build their energy and try together to take over.
Well done, Sir
This was epic, thank you very much!
Merry Christmas and brilliant vid as per usual
Were there any Elves or Dwarves left on Middle-Earth ? .It feels like all the magic left that world after Sauron was defeated .Like it was all barren , a wasteland .No more magic , no more foes to vanquish , no more people to save and ( Something that would at one point make Bilbo Baggings glad and heartbroken at another ) no more adventures .Bilbo wrote his poem saying goodbye to Middle Earth .And so , we part too .
That's the point, and that's why all the Elves were so sad in the book, cause their time was ending as was magic. Thus the time of men began and our real world timeline begins.
Can you do a video about the History of the Code Geass universe ??
You didn’t talk about the battle of Osgiliath. Another early victory for Sauron.
Is there any knowledge of what happened Curumo/Saruman other than his spirit was buffeted by winds and prevented from returning to Aman? Is he manifested for the Dagor Dagorath?
Saruman "should" have been called to Halls of Mandos, but he was barred from returning. His spirit was left naked, powerless and wandering, never to return to Middle-earth as Tolkien indicates:
"Whereas Curunir was cast down, and utterly humbled, and perished at last by the hand of an oppressed slave; and his spirit went whither-soever it was doomed to go, and to Middle-earth, whether naked or embodied, came never back."
The part in the movie with Isildur leaving with the Ring was a bit stupid. There he is in Mount Doom with Elrond right behind him and he goes "no." And then what? They just let him walk out of there, order his man to pack it up an ride home while everyone looks on and does nothing? Elrond and whoever else was there could have easily solved the whole thing right there by just knocking him out.
You still manage to impress after all those videos. I thought your work on ASoIaF was excellent, but the LotR Videos just top that. The lore is so rich and even a hardcore fan misses many historical aspects from the appendices and the later additional texts...nevertheless you manage to get nearly everything right and still maintain your precise but quick style. Imo your work is some of the best content regarding fantasy / scifi lore. Thank you so much for your effort! 👍
I would like to see a movie on what happened in the North during the war of the ring
It's not canon but it's quite good play the game lotr war in the north or watch gameplay it's awsome
This is a great story some one should make a movie out of it.
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You are the greatest story teller then anyone
These were all great! But u did leave out the end of gimli and legolas how they went to the Crystal caves together and eventually sailed west together long after the last host and gimli elf friend was the first dwarf to be aloud into valinor...
Question: did the valar castrated the Istari or something? why didn't saruman used all of his power after changing sides? was he afraid of even greater punishment? was he unable? was that all a maiar is capable of that they can be killed by a nobody human?
Smaug wasn't necessarily the last of the dragons, he was simply the last that could be a legitimate threat
Can you do a video for Aragorn?
Sauron: Should have added a GPS tracker on the ring....
Excellent video
Can you please make a video for the sun and the moon ? And the 2 valar who help for this
Great video, could you do the Cuivienyarna-also what do you use to make these videos?
Nice
I actually prefer the movie version of Saruman’s death. It gives closure while not lessening the character.
Indeed there he died a great villian while the book's version made him a desperate character even defeated by hobbits.
With all due respect, I disagree. The point of the last battle in LOTR is that even the Hobbits and their lands are not immune to war and when crisis comes, nobody is immune to it. It was a final way of testing the 4 Hobbits who showed how much they had learned while also showing that the Shire had to stand up to fight as well. Sure, the movie death is more "epic" or whatever, but thematically, this works better. Also, the point of Saruman is that he is pretty pathetic. He thinks he can somehow become a god by becoming "Saruman of Many Colors" (a part of the book unfortunately left out of the movies). To see such a man bring himself so low to me depicts just how pathetic having a god complex really is.
So basically this all happened because Sauron made an upgraded horcrux.
Awesome video! Please more Middle-Earth related videos ^^
So all the Wizards except Saruman fulfilled their purpose of coming to Middle-earth.
Does anyone know what happened to Rhadagast after the War was over? I'd like to believe he eventually sailed away to rejoin his friend Gandalf
They think that because dragons are a creation of morgoth that they would just naturally serve Sauron just as easily bc he was second in command?
Plz do a video on the third age.
Coming soon :)
I found a small error: Galadriel travelled west to the Undying lands By this time the Undying lands are already out of the spheres of the world
Yes that's true, but there was a Straight Road that led to the Undying Lands, and to follow it you had to sail West from the Grey Havens.
CivilizationEx well yes I just watched so many first age videos and I just put my mind in going to Aman means across the sea lol
@@CivilizationEx does anyone know what happened to Boromir's body after it was sent over the Falls?
@@colleenross8752 His body was found washed ashore by his brother Faramir.
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I watched the first hour of lord of the rings and had no idea what the fuck was going on
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Should have been a diamond ring
CivEx!!!
Gil-Galad and Elendil killed Sauron and died in the process and after that Isildur just took the ring
Stefan Blazic how
how could a normal blade or a human cut or harm Sauron while he wears the one Ring??
Nava9380 it wasn’t a normal blade
Narsil was made by the Elves, right?
Didn't Gimli also leave Middle Earth?
Later on in the 4th age yes along with Legolas :)
what about the bright lords ring
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Why would Faramir dislike this? He helped defend Gondor
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Are you still doing Elder Scrolls?
Not anymore, I may do some more in the future but for now I am taking a break from ES.
CivilizationEx okay, thank you for replying! And great video
That's what Fudgemuppet is for!
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How come the woodland elves didn’t aid the free people of middle earth?
They did, they defended Mirkwood from the Orcs of Dol Guldur, and would have been the first line of defense if the Easterlings defeated the Dwarves in the North.
didn't Sam go west too?
Eventually yes, but he stayed in the Shire for many years to raise a family first.
Wait did Saruman actually die in the shire or was that just a joke?
No. He was the orchestrator of the Sacking of the Shire
Correct me if I’m wrong but weren’t the nazgul the only ringwraiths, and not as it says powerful ringwraiths
Lithouse Studios probably the only ring wraiths as there is only 9 rings for 9 kings to become ring wraith while there still might be other wraiths under Saurons command just like how Frodo almost became a wraith
@@jeambeam3173 Like in the Barrow-downs for example, the Witch-King of Angmar had sent some kind of evil spirits to haunt the tombs of men for two millenia.
I don’t know if it’s his accent or if he is over-pronouncing the names. If it’s the former then fair enough, if it’s the latter it’s really distracting...
At first I thought he was actually correctly pronouncing them with the real accents and phonetics but then he pronounced Dain’s name as if it rhymes with line instead of lane, it which point I was like ‘huh?’
Names in LOTR have very specific pronunciations which I am doing my best to produce accurately. In this world, Dain is pronounced Dine.
Sauron is defeated beacuse Frodo is on the high ground
Agent K
Techniqually Sauron has the high ground.
@@TKinfinity01 but morally, Frodo is on the high ground
Agent K
Fair enough
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is that even a sentence?
*******. Elendil and Gilgalad killed Sauron, and died themselves in the process.
Isildur cut the ring from Sauron’s dead hand. Isildur didn’t kill Sauron or anything like that. He was simply the one who was there.
Let’s forget the Peter Jackson version.
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