ill be honest... secret rings is a guilty pleasure of mine. ill tell you the gameplay absolutely does not get better LOL. the aesthetics id say go a bit up though. also dont you DARE diss the ost LMAO
Hello! It is I, the one guy who is rampantly obsessed with Sonic and the Secret Rings! I love it so much! The controls are bad, but I found it to be a fun challenge. For every problem in the controls, you can work around them. You have to shake at the right angle for homing attacks (less forward more down), you can actually jump off the rails in 2 ways. For sideways jumping off rails, tilt the wii remote to the side you want to jump, and if that won't work, press 2 on top of that and you should jump. For jumping normally on a rail, you want to hold 2 for a while, and release when you want to jump. It should work, but it's hard to do on short rails (or in general). Backstep helps a lot when reversing too! As for if it gets better, I would say that it does get better the more you play it. Levelling up gives you some excellent unlockables. One of my favourites is splash jump, which allows you to jump over walls if you homing attack it (this ends up being really good). You also have one or two more speed and acceleration increases to unlock (especially if you have yet to finish the game). For now, doing a short jump should be enough to accelerate. In terms of level design, Night Palace, one of my favourite levels is at the end. You probably wouldn't like it, but it's very challenging which is why I like it. It has a lot of what I call 'evil level design', which is something I love about the game overall. There's also a flying carpet section which is really cool when you get used to the controls. But apart from that, Night Palace probably has the best aesthetic in the whole game. The music perfectly sets up the atmosphere, and the entire area looks absolutely gorgeous for a wii game. There's also a cool time/space segment which is just awesome. Not to mention the whole area turning around. I also think the music is absolutely fire. I see why you don't like the music, but I think it's really good! I should summarize, since I have rambled at least a little. Overall, here's what I like about the game: -Unique controls that are better once you get used to them -The aesthetic of the levels in game is amazing and more creative than nearly any other Sonic game -The Music is really good imo -I actually liked the story -Evil level design -Big appears in the game as cameos -Sonic literally has fire coming out of his chest -The 321 at the start of the levels is iconic -Make beliefs reborn Don't get me wrong, I see why you dislike the game. Even though it gets a bit better, I highly doubt you are going to like the game if you play it more.
3:27 Holding down the 2 button, on the ground, makes Sonic slowly slide to a stop while charging the jump. If you use it in the air though, you'll immediately come to a stop because Sonic will stop all momentum mid-air when doing that first. If you don't want to slide around, hold down the 1 button for a full break first, then hold down 2 while holding down 1 to charge the jump once he stopped moving. Then you can let go of 1 and keep charging the jump with 2. The reason why there are two buttons for Sonic coming to a stop is that the sliding action with the 2 button can also be used as an attack or an EXP/soul energy farming move with the right equipped abilities. The 1 button's core function is just making Sonic stop, removing the sliding part or the jumping part if you want to (in the case where you want to slide through enemies but not jump; holding down the 2 button -> holding down the 1 button -> letting go of the 2 button). So if you don't want Sonic to slide before jumping, there you go. You also need the 1 button for proper rail grind switching (which is almost never required from you outside of the optional tutorial level), which is overly complicated. Feel free to skip this paragraph if you don't care about how to switch rails properly: - While Sonic is grinding, hold down the 1 button to break on it. - While coming to a stop, a dust cloud will appear. - If you see the dust cloud, that's when you can tilt the wii remote left or right to switch to the adjacent rail. (but if you do it too early, you'll overshoot (which is how most players try to switch from rail to rail; only really useful if the next rail is slightly more above Sonic, which I think only happens in one level); and if you do it too late, you'll fall off the rail) 3:42 The Wii Remote registers individual shakes better. Try only jolting/shaking the Wii Remote for a split second if a lock on icon appears on-screen and you'll have a better time. I usually only do one swing downwards. 4:27 There are multiple abilities that make ground/air control "smoother". You'll unlock the upgraded ones that have a more noticeable difference on higher levels. 4:56 I think the homing attack didn't work here because you kept shaking the Wii Remote there without any lock on target icon being visible, which causes Sonic to do a air dash instead. Wait a little after the barrel bounce and it will continue to fling Sonic forward for long enough for the target icon to appear (since you'll then be in the attacking range for the enemy), and then you can shake the Wii Remote again to homing attack that enemy. Yes, the mission progression is a bit confusing. The most consistent progression I've noticed is 1) do the first level, 2) do the rampage level, 3) maybe do another level with unique voice lines in it, 3) do the boss level. But there are other missions that aren't optional either.
Secret Rings is on my top 5.. I played it when I was 5 and did not remember much. Last year I decided to replay it and I fell in love with it. I love the music, level design, bosses, story, and the gameplay is super fun despite the weird control scheme. I get why people don’t like the game but personally I think it’s great, but not perfect.
I grew up on this game, I used to get up early in the morning ( like 6:00) just so I could play it. I did get frustrated with controls sure, but I used to play it so much. I have fond memories playing it. I recognize it’s flaws but this game holds a special place.
As someone who recently beat Secret Rings, the controls do not get better. So many deaths could've been prevented if the controls were actually normal. Jumping or switching to another grind rail or doing a homing attack should not be this obnoxious.
@@ShempOfficial oh absolutely. I loved the vibes of the games themselves and (at least in Black Knight's case, I gotta check out secret rings myself) the story, music, environments, all slapped. IF ONLY IT DIDN'T SUCK TO PLAY LOL BK is at least a bit better to control tho, but I still never really liked how it felt
Shout out to the poor souls who got enticed to play Sonic games through Smash Bros Brawl and thought Secret Rings was a valid first option just because it was featured in Brawl and also happened to conveniently be a Wii game.
I remember got this game and Sonic Riders Zero Gravity for just 12 bucks each at Walmart. As a kid, I tought it was a great deal. Yes, controls are pretty bad. I had never complete the game at 100%. I just unlock all skills (so I think...). And as a 12y/o kid, I thought music was pretty dope and Darkspine Sonic so badass. Not the greatness Sonic game but i still enjoyed some parts.
Damn I found this game easy as a kid (I grew up on sonic heavily) And I dont mean this with an intent of ego, Its just the skill rings made the game easy for me and sonic just got OP lol, i enjoy the game a lot and i respect all opinions, i just wanted to leave my piece here
Honestly, Sonic Rivals 2 was my first game from when i was a kid. I heard of this game at the time too. But didn’t know the context of the story. After years, i was able to look at the story gameplay and found the story very interesting but the gameplay looked janky. Story still was cool for me. After looking at some fan remakes on UA-cam, i found that a fan was remaking rhis game in particular. Maybe you can try it out and make a comparison of what could have been
honestly not much else changes after Levitated Ruin the final 2 worlds, Skeleton Dome and Night Palace, are really nicely designed in my opinion (that could be nostalgia bias or all the green hill saturation in recent years) but unfortunately things stay the same
Funny l watched the sonic movies and loved them but I've almost never played a single sonic game a few levels on sonic hero's on ps2 as a kid but never went back
I think I had more patience when I was a kid cause I beat it as a kid when it came out, but I could barely play it in more recent times. I really tried to be like "maybe it's not that bad", but it really is...well at the very least not good lol. This was my first Wii game, alongside Wii Sports and Wii Play. I think if this ever got a re-release, it has potential to be a decent game. The Wii controls is what makes it a bad game really.
i can see why you dont like secret rings. its the weaker one of the two storybook games. HOWEVER! dont let this game hold back your experience with its younger brother, sonic and the black knight. it has better controls, better story, and if you thought the cutscenes and music was charming in secret rings. OH BOY YOU AINT READY FOR BLACK KNIGHT. its not a perfect game but it was a major step up before sega decided to stop doin the wii exclusive storybook games... i miss the storybook seires.
To me, the worst Sonic games I've played are Sonic Heroes and Sonic and the Secret Rings (and yes, I played Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06, and yes, I love those games and find them way more playable, and yes, '06 is objectively bad, but to me, it's unironically fun to play it). Yes, the game gets better, while you play you get points to unlock and equip """"""skills"""""", which literally makes the game playable. However, I don't find this justifiable, you kinda have to finish the game to finally make it bearable to play, but, like... you already finished the game? Why would you play everything again when the experience has been horrible up to that point? So, yeah, that's the secret but I don't think it justifies playing or recommending this game. I do think the game had a lot going for it tho, wish they could remake it.
Your editing is fantastic and the humour is on point, only issue I have is how little research has gone into the topic. You don't finish the game and don't follow it's progression. It leaves the viewer feeling unsatisfied overall. I love your channel but this was a miss for me personally.😢
That's fair. You're completely valid for thinking so! If I'm not having a good time playing, then I won't force myself for the sake of a video. Which is why I asked you guys to let me know! So far the general reaction has been pretty positive, so I hope you can still enjoy other content the channel produces.
me hearing bridge zone music: this MF is right ahah, but seriously this game have osme cool music yes, yes the game goes better cause you unlock better controls XD even in the end.
no it dosent get better, the game always just controls like shit im sorry the game is also very bad at telling you how to progress from what i remember, and bruno mars DOES is gay.
As someone who actually played and liked this game when it came out, I can safely say it does not get better later on. You're doing yourself a favour by leaving Secret Rings alone.
@@ShempOfficial Hope i wasn't being too harsh with that joke lol, the vid was great. I love secret rings but it can defo be really frustrating with its jank & its 100% not for everyone. The thing that i mostly love about it, is that it was the first Sonic game to do spectacles & cinematic scenes as well as it did in the Linear scripted sections of gameplay. Your only take that i outright disagree with was with the music, genuinely thing it has one of the best and most unique scores in the series.
ill be honest... secret rings is a guilty pleasure of mine. ill tell you the gameplay absolutely does not get better LOL. the aesthetics id say go a bit up though. also dont you DARE diss the ost LMAO
Absolutely
Hello! It is I, the one guy who is rampantly obsessed with Sonic and the Secret Rings! I love it so much! The controls are bad, but I found it to be a fun challenge. For every problem in the controls, you can work around them. You have to shake at the right angle for homing attacks (less forward more down), you can actually jump off the rails in 2 ways. For sideways jumping off rails, tilt the wii remote to the side you want to jump, and if that won't work, press 2 on top of that and you should jump. For jumping normally on a rail, you want to hold 2 for a while, and release when you want to jump. It should work, but it's hard to do on short rails (or in general). Backstep helps a lot when reversing too! As for if it gets better, I would say that it does get better the more you play it. Levelling up gives you some excellent unlockables. One of my favourites is splash jump, which allows you to jump over walls if you homing attack it (this ends up being really good). You also have one or two more speed and acceleration increases to unlock (especially if you have yet to finish the game). For now, doing a short jump should be enough to accelerate. In terms of level design, Night Palace, one of my favourite levels is at the end. You probably wouldn't like it, but it's very challenging which is why I like it. It has a lot of what I call 'evil level design', which is something I love about the game overall. There's also a flying carpet section which is really cool when you get used to the controls. But apart from that, Night Palace probably has the best aesthetic in the whole game. The music perfectly sets up the atmosphere, and the entire area looks absolutely gorgeous for a wii game. There's also a cool time/space segment which is just awesome. Not to mention the whole area turning around. I also think the music is absolutely fire. I see why you don't like the music, but I think it's really good! I should summarize, since I have rambled at least a little. Overall, here's what I like about the game:
-Unique controls that are better once you get used to them
-The aesthetic of the levels in game is amazing and more creative than nearly any other Sonic game
-The Music is really good imo
-I actually liked the story
-Evil level design
-Big appears in the game as cameos
-Sonic literally has fire coming out of his chest
-The 321 at the start of the levels is iconic
-Make beliefs reborn
Don't get me wrong, I see why you dislike the game. Even though it gets a bit better, I highly doubt you are going to like the game if you play it more.
3:27 Holding down the 2 button, on the ground, makes Sonic slowly slide to a stop while charging the jump. If you use it in the air though, you'll immediately come to a stop because Sonic will stop all momentum mid-air when doing that first. If you don't want to slide around, hold down the 1 button for a full break first, then hold down 2 while holding down 1 to charge the jump once he stopped moving. Then you can let go of 1 and keep charging the jump with 2.
The reason why there are two buttons for Sonic coming to a stop is that the sliding action with the 2 button can also be used as an attack or an EXP/soul energy farming move with the right equipped abilities. The 1 button's core function is just making Sonic stop, removing the sliding part or the jumping part if you want to (in the case where you want to slide through enemies but not jump; holding down the 2 button -> holding down the 1 button -> letting go of the 2 button). So if you don't want Sonic to slide before jumping, there you go.
You also need the 1 button for proper rail grind switching (which is almost never required from you outside of the optional tutorial level), which is overly complicated.
Feel free to skip this paragraph if you don't care about how to switch rails properly:
- While Sonic is grinding, hold down the 1 button to break on it.
- While coming to a stop, a dust cloud will appear.
- If you see the dust cloud, that's when you can tilt the wii remote left or right to switch to the adjacent rail. (but if you do it too early, you'll overshoot (which is how most players try to switch from rail to rail; only really useful if the next rail is slightly more above Sonic, which I think only happens in one level); and if you do it too late, you'll fall off the rail)
3:42 The Wii Remote registers individual shakes better. Try only jolting/shaking the Wii Remote for a split second if a lock on icon appears on-screen and you'll have a better time. I usually only do one swing downwards.
4:27 There are multiple abilities that make ground/air control "smoother". You'll unlock the upgraded ones that have a more noticeable difference on higher levels.
4:56 I think the homing attack didn't work here because you kept shaking the Wii Remote there without any lock on target icon being visible, which causes Sonic to do a air dash instead. Wait a little after the barrel bounce and it will continue to fling Sonic forward for long enough for the target icon to appear (since you'll then be in the attacking range for the enemy), and then you can shake the Wii Remote again to homing attack that enemy.
Yes, the mission progression is a bit confusing. The most consistent progression I've noticed is 1) do the first level, 2) do the rampage level, 3) maybe do another level with unique voice lines in it, 3) do the boss level. But there are other missions that aren't optional either.
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Secret Rings is on my top 5.. I played it when I was 5 and did not remember much. Last year I decided to replay it and I fell in love with it. I love the music, level design, bosses, story, and the gameplay is super fun despite the weird control scheme. I get why people don’t like the game but personally I think it’s great, but not perfect.
I grew up on this game, I used to get up early in the morning ( like 6:00) just so I could play it. I did get frustrated with controls sure, but I used to play it so much. I have fond memories playing it. I recognize it’s flaws but this game holds a special place.
Completely valid! I'm really happy you have such a good memory with this game c:
As someone who recently beat Secret Rings, the controls do not get better. So many deaths could've been prevented if the controls were actually normal. Jumping or switching to another grind rail or doing a homing attack should not be this obnoxious.
This game has a fan remake called project reignition
"If you like Crash Bash, you'll love this game."
Looks like I found my next run.
I REALLY want to see this game and/or Black Knight get remakes with proper controls
That fan remake will give us a look into what that might be like!
@@ShempOfficial oh absolutely. I loved the vibes of the games themselves and (at least in Black Knight's case, I gotta check out secret rings myself) the story, music, environments, all slapped. IF ONLY IT DIDN'T SUCK TO PLAY LOL
BK is at least a bit better to control tho, but I still never really liked how it felt
@acog4169 I hope you enjoy missions, because it's most of what you're doing in secret rings.
@@spritvio639 yeahhhhhh lol
Sonic and the secret rings reminds me a lot of if my gorgeous beautiful wife left and never came back
Please come get her dude, she won't leave my house
I despise Sonic blast for game gear
Shout out to the poor souls who got enticed to play Sonic games through Smash Bros Brawl and thought Secret Rings was a valid first option just because it was featured in Brawl and also happened to conveniently be a Wii game.
I remember got this game and Sonic Riders Zero Gravity for just 12 bucks each at Walmart. As a kid, I tought it was a great deal.
Yes, controls are pretty bad. I had never complete the game at 100%. I just unlock all skills (so I think...). And as a 12y/o kid, I thought music was pretty dope and Darkspine Sonic so badass.
Not the greatness Sonic game but i still enjoyed some parts.
Damn I found this game easy as a kid (I grew up on sonic heavily) And I dont mean this with an intent of ego, Its just the skill rings made the game easy for me and sonic just got OP lol, i enjoy the game a lot and i respect all opinions, i just wanted to leave my piece here
Aight, "Does bruno mars is gay" Earned you a sub
:D
Honestly, Sonic Rivals 2 was my first game from when i was a kid. I heard of this game at the time too. But didn’t know the context of the story. After years, i was able to look at the story gameplay and found the story very interesting but the gameplay looked janky. Story still was cool for me.
After looking at some fan remakes on UA-cam, i found that a fan was remaking rhis game in particular. Maybe you can try it out and make a comparison of what could have been
Secret rings my beloved i love it sm even if it aint the best.
You're so real for that
Black knight was good ngl
Hey! more blonde Alpharad
You havent played Every CANNON sonic game?
BROTHER
SONIC LABERYNTH is WAY worse
LMAO
honestly not much else changes after Levitated Ruin
the final 2 worlds, Skeleton Dome and Night Palace, are really nicely designed in my opinion (that could be nostalgia bias or all the green hill saturation in recent years) but unfortunately things stay the same
Funny l watched the sonic movies and loved them but I've almost never played a single sonic game a few levels on sonic hero's on ps2 as a kid but never went back
Your dog is going in the river. Also my ex wife came from a ring too
Dylan you need to wake up. The accident wasn't your fault.
I think I had more patience when I was a kid cause I beat it as a kid when it came out, but I could barely play it in more recent times. I really tried to be like "maybe it's not that bad", but it really is...well at the very least not good lol. This was my first Wii game, alongside Wii Sports and Wii Play. I think if this ever got a re-release, it has potential to be a decent game. The Wii controls is what makes it a bad game really.
i can see why you dont like secret rings. its the weaker one of the two storybook games. HOWEVER! dont let this game hold back your experience with its younger brother, sonic and the black knight. it has better controls, better story, and if you thought the cutscenes and music was charming in secret rings. OH BOY YOU AINT READY FOR BLACK KNIGHT. its not a perfect game but it was a major step up before sega decided to stop doin the wii exclusive storybook games... i miss the storybook seires.
Havent played every sonic game? Unsubbing
BUN WAIT I CAN CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!
@@ShempOfficial 100% complete sonic x for the leapster RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
To me, the worst Sonic games I've played are Sonic Heroes and Sonic and the Secret Rings (and yes, I played Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic '06, and yes, I love those games and find them way more playable, and yes, '06 is objectively bad, but to me, it's unironically fun to play it).
Yes, the game gets better, while you play you get points to unlock and equip """"""skills"""""", which literally makes the game playable. However, I don't find this justifiable, you kinda have to finish the game to finally make it bearable to play, but, like... you already finished the game? Why would you play everything again when the experience has been horrible up to that point? So, yeah, that's the secret but I don't think it justifies playing or recommending this game.
I do think the game had a lot going for it tho, wish they could remake it.
Your editing is fantastic and the humour is on point, only issue I have is how little research has gone into the topic. You don't finish the game and don't follow it's progression. It leaves the viewer feeling unsatisfied overall. I love your channel but this was a miss for me personally.😢
That's fair. You're completely valid for thinking so! If I'm not having a good time playing, then I won't force myself for the sake of a video. Which is why I asked you guys to let me know!
So far the general reaction has been pretty positive, so I hope you can still enjoy other content the channel produces.
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me hearing bridge zone music: this MF is right ahah, but seriously this game have osme cool music yes, yes the game goes better cause you unlock better controls XD even in the end.
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Have we even had a good sonic game since adventure 2 battle, honestly? it's just not the same.
I got some bad news....
I dont think so. Generations, Mania, Colors and Sonic Runners come to mind
Did you play any Sonic game who isn't the Adventure ones ?
@@theblackmoonrising Yeah I tried I didn't like any of them. I didn't play the most recent one though because it gave me motion sickness.
no it dosent get better, the game always just controls like shit im sorry the game is also very bad at telling you how to progress from what i remember, and bruno mars DOES is gay.
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@ShempOfficial Nah it does, you just need to EQUIP the upgrades. It's very, very, very dumb.
Play sonic 3d 🎉 refresh the palate with my fave trash sonic game.
Also going to teach me those sick dance moves?
Play free riders
My sanity is already fractured
As someone who actually played and liked this game when it came out, I can safely say it does not get better later on. You're doing yourself a favour by leaving Secret Rings alone.
That seems to be the general consensus
You got great hair and facial hair, love your style dude you look awesome
Sadly your opinion is fucking wrong
Cool! :D
@@ShempOfficial Hope i wasn't being too harsh with that joke lol, the vid was great.
I love secret rings but it can defo be really frustrating with its jank & its 100% not for everyone.
The thing that i mostly love about it, is that it was the first Sonic game to do spectacles & cinematic scenes as well as it did in the Linear scripted sections of gameplay.
Your only take that i outright disagree with was with the music, genuinely thing it has one of the best and most unique scores in the series.
Sonic and the secret rings reminds me a lot of if my gorgeous beautiful wife left and never came back
She's mine now. Trisha chose what's best for her.
fucking anything
Dab me up