The greatest DAW Philosophical statement of all time by Chris Lord: "There's no wrong way to make a sound....you turn it [the EQ on the snare] all the way up, NO ONE IS GONNA DIE" Love it, Love it, Love It!!!
Agreed. " Nobody is going to die... " So true people act like moving a knob slightly to the right is going to release all the demons from hell upon the world. Just toss crap around until it sounds good and move onto the next thing.
How bout No ? I found that the more you understand how processes work, the faster you can get to the sound you want. However you do not need to know music theory or any technical data to get to that sound, just takes more time. Once I really understood how a compressor works at the basic level, it allowed me to get to the settings i know would get me close to where i want to be. I have a long ways to go but heck, finding things out is just as fun as making music in my opinion. " Oh that's how they do that... "
I enjoy watching CLA explain his mixing decisions because it is like a drama production. There's references to death, fear and overcoming it, pushing yourself to heroic actions, abusing the things around you to further your plot, abandoning the norms of society, releasing yourself from the shackles of your own mind. Dear CLA, to take it to the next level, see if you can incorporate some references to betrayal and pepper in some revenge.
most of the people who say "don't EQ more than +6db" usually have dull mixes :P What's important is the end result and the creativity! Big props to CLA
love that agressive style from CLA... he only ask to himself... this sounds good? yes? or no? and thats it.... not bullsh*t. He just gets the sound he wants
Honestly a very good quote for aspiring mix engineers that I feel is eloquently stated: "There's no wrong way to make a sound. It's either you're-it's either you turn it all the way up...what could possibly happen? No one is going to die." -Chris Lord Alge
I;m loving how he pushes for the sound he gets,,driving the needles and the dynamics all over !!!! I am glad that some snares sound quite shitty some times and the EQ punches into some thing else completly..IM all for it great video !!
The funny thing about chris is that he never seems like he knows what he's doing. He's completely oblivious about certain details, cranks things like a toddler and has people working the machines for him. Yet SOMEHOW he massages out this crazy clarity and aggression that makes your car stereo explode In many other circumstances, his style would sound like garbage but he's just so knowledgeable about the stuff that matters and his instincts are just flawless. It's really frustrating haha
Assuming you have a solid low end mixed, those huge treble boosts actually work really well. Seeing him do that was pretty eye opening the first time I watched this. Im usually using a parametric eq so it looks visually daunting to throw such a huge shelf boost in, but it works
So he's essentially scooping the mids with his low and high boosts. He's able to do this because there's lots of headroom on his recording allowing him to make, what seems like, 'crazy' boosts.
hello from the future. Yes! I was thinking the same thing watching this. He is actually as nuts with the gain settings as his presets would lead you to believe.
+Mashreef Ahmed He didn't have a secluded mic, so when he talks, it's just muting what 'we hear' and you hear the audio picked up from the mic he's talking into. My guess anyways, because you can hear the phase waving during his phrases.
You have to watch a video not made by a plugin company to see his actual personal preferences. Puremix or Mixwiththemasters. When he does videos for Waves, he sells waves plugins, and here is the same thing but for slate.
Is it me, but when you EQ so much treble into the original snare that it's then obligatory to find a sample to replace basically all the frequencies you've just minced up?
BAT HEAVY nah. Cos 1, if it sounds good in the end who cares. 2, he’s eqing into his compressor. When he boosts stuff THAT MUCH into a compressor, then those boosted frequencies are what the compressor sees. So you get all the character from that part of the snare, which is what he wants, and then you take care of what’s missing. It’s no different from using a bright mic and a dark mic on a guitar cab when you’re recording. Neither alone does what you want, but together they work really well.
Notice how he didn’t cut anything - you could get a very similar result by just cutting the mids of the snare, like most people do. That’s true for most eq moves - cut what you don’t like or boost what you like. Do it however it makes more sense to you. When using clean digital eq the result should be exactly the same, but when using analog-modeled plugins, you get some extra “juice” by boosting a lot, and that’s what CLA seems to be doing here
@SlateTv I’m new on SlateDigital and I want to watch this course full but I cannot find it in SlateDigital.com “My Academy” . Where I can watch this course from start to and? Thank you in advance for the answer.
The initial snare sounds like the producer was recording it from the building across the street. Or that they intentionally put a closed low pass filter on it before CLA got to work.
Crusher is just a send bus simply named "Crusher". if you look over at the tracks on the left you can see the track the Crusher bus is assigned to has a VMR that is bypassed and the track is muted. so, in this video Crusher is not doing anything. the real question is whats in that VMR. I'm guessing an FG 116 that's smacking the hell out of whatever is going to it.
I bought the course Anthony Bourdain (btw well worth it). You'll be surprised he doesn't use much compression, rather he chooses to use the channel and bomber to do the work. Crusher is parallel compression. Really recommend it!
🚨What I learned is that CLA wouldn’t get his final drums sound without him using his samples 🤔 All that money spent in a nice studio, equipment, drum tuning, a lot of room mics and he uses samples 🤷🏻♂️
when i eq as aggressive i run into phase issues and stuff starts to sound really artificial. So this extrem eqing, as careless as it looks, is a skill in itself
ppl who clicked dislike on this video I personally dont get them...lol. They come to watch it because they know CLA is one of the best and wants to know his secret...why? because they like his sound. But then they have the guts to dislike what he is doing.😂 Well , you wanted to see how is done ..well there you got it. Its either you admire the guy ...or you beat him in his game. But dont hit dislike if you dont even understand phase correlation 🤣
Ok, wouldn't be easier (or at least more traditional) to CUT a few than boosting the hell from the entire spectrumm? Because you know, boost frequency is add volume, so why not cutting the mid-lows (that you hadn't touch a hair) which apparently it's the "box" sound of the snare and then, on the output, add gain? I wonder if wouldn't cause the same effect
Boosting or subtracting on a digital EQ with no colour to it would make it all the same, like you suggest. But this is an emulation of a physical EQ and it may behave differently. As he says though; no one is gonna die :)
This is a great video if you have all of the plugins. Otherwise its just us watching Chris because he's entertaining and has the ego to crank effects without giving a damn.
Compression on a snare?? Pah! I apply distortion and combine it with the eq'd clean signal to maintain the initial transient. Chris Lord Alge: what does he know?
+Joe “JazEGeoff” Sepe HAHA I had to go back and double check my hearing. he said it doesn't sound like a THICK drum kit - it has no definition, space, depth, etc. I definitely understand hearing fake though since his mic was pretty evenly matched with the drums :P
far ema I know thats what i was intially referring to, though not very humorously on my part haha. I just dont get this type of sample blending. I guess if you don't have a guy like chicarelli or barressi tracking the kit, you have to get creative. Just sounds fake to me.
+Joe “JazEGeoff” Sepe - He said fake not thick, meaning by putting the fake snare sample in there it doesn't make it sound fake at all like it sometimes can.
***** Nooooo he said thick. lol. It makes absolutely no sense in context with what he's saying for "fake" to fit. He adds the sample, 1 because the snare has all the snap but no dimension, no depth 2 - because as he clearly shows - the snare is lacking in the room track. Now, as I said to the OP going back I understand the mishear because the track is playing back at nearly the same level, but you're reasoning makes absolutely no sense. No offense. But he clearly states why he adds the stereo room he chose (because it's missing in the rooms) and he says, as I mentioned above, we're getting the snap from the actual snare and this great room sound from the sample. - This is why he pointed out the snare lacking from the room track - "But it doesn't sound like a THICK drum kit. So let's put the room in. And he goes on to process the room track to thicken up the drum kit entirely. I apologize if I come off as a dick here, but if you haven't watched the entire course, or you can't understand the process this far into it and understand what he's doing, why he's doing it, and why it doesn't make sense for him to have said "but it doesn't sound like a fake drum kit" then I shouldn't have to apologize. If his goal is to make a drum kit sound fake, he wouldn't be the great CLA. End rant, and again no offense, just clearing this up.
And then the sad moment when people realize that cranking things like that on anything but the style he's mixing and the sounds he's mixing destroys it and pieces their ears.
"No one is gonna die."
Probably the truest thing I've ever heard about audio mixing.
+Thom Dumdust Exactly. If it isn't working, just turn it back down, but at least you tried. Brian Eno has a similar attitude.
Or is it?
REAL ANDRÉ twat
"No one is gonna die". Love it!
adam872 I laughed so hard when he said that.
The greatest DAW Philosophical statement of all time by Chris Lord: "There's no wrong way to make a sound....you turn it [the EQ on the snare] all the way up, NO ONE IS GONNA DIE" Love it, Love it, Love It!!!
I love how he doesn't give a stuff about "how much" processing is happening. He just gets the sound he wants.
+Gabriel Hutchinson I know right, most people like subltety, but he just goes hard. Love it.
thats why he is the Master! :D
Agreed. " Nobody is going to die... " So true people act like moving a knob slightly to the right is going to release all the demons from hell upon the world. Just toss crap around until it sounds good and move onto the next thing.
I really don't uinderstand why anyone would go by the textbooks. If it sounds right, it's right.
How bout No ? I found that the more you understand how processes work, the faster you can get to the sound you want. However you do not need to know music theory or any technical data to get to that sound, just takes more time. Once I really understood how a compressor works at the basic level, it allowed me to get to the settings i know would get me close to where i want to be. I have a long ways to go but heck, finding things out is just as fun as making music in my opinion. " Oh that's how they do that... "
I enjoy watching CLA explain his mixing decisions because it is like a drama production. There's references to death, fear and overcoming it, pushing yourself to heroic actions, abusing the things around you to further your plot, abandoning the norms of society, releasing yourself from the shackles of your own mind.
Dear CLA, to take it to the next level, see if you can incorporate some references to betrayal and pepper in some revenge.
most of the people who say "don't EQ more than +6db" usually have dull mixes :P What's important is the end result and the creativity! Big props to CLA
Holy words!!! ;)
On my waves pultec eq, the beautiful highs only come out at +11 XD
Oh yes.... something weird happens about +11... beautifull for Cymbals...
He even clips the tape machine. No one's gonna die
They are typically people who overuse the word “proper” and frown upon being creative or breaking rules.
I have come to really hate that word...
I could watch CLA mixing for the rest of my life and die happy
love that agressive style from CLA... he only ask to himself... this sounds good? yes? or no? and thats it.... not bullsh*t. He just gets the sound he wants
because he knows what hes doing
Honestly a very good quote for aspiring mix engineers that I feel is eloquently stated:
"There's no wrong way to make a sound. It's either you're-it's either you turn it all the way up...what could possibly happen? No one is going to die."
-Chris Lord Alge
I;m loving how he pushes for the sound he gets,,driving the needles and the dynamics all over !!!! I am glad that some snares sound quite shitty some times and the EQ punches into some thing else completly..IM all for it great video !!
The funny thing about chris is that he never seems like he knows what he's doing. He's completely oblivious about certain details, cranks things like a toddler and has people working the machines for him.
Yet SOMEHOW he massages out this crazy clarity and aggression that makes your car stereo explode
In many other circumstances, his style would sound like garbage but he's just so knowledgeable about the stuff that matters and his instincts are just flawless. It's really frustrating haha
He truly DOES know exactly what he's doing.
No
@@randomselect645
Thanks for that profound, insightful contribution
Assuming you have a solid low end mixed, those huge treble boosts actually work really well. Seeing him do that was pretty eye opening the first time I watched this. Im usually using a parametric eq so it looks visually daunting to throw such a huge shelf boost in, but it works
"Whats the worst that could happen.... no one is going to die" AWESOME Chris!!!!
"No one is gonna die" lol Love how aggressive he Eqs.
like button pushed hard
and no one died
Are you kidding me? CLA ? The man is a genius but also a generous human being. Gotta love it. Inspiring as hell! Invaluable.
"No one is gonna die." I love that.
He is the Saul Goodman of mixing 😂
I love how you are not scared to turn the knobs all the way xD "No one is going to die!" lmfao! Priceless!
CLA does not remove cymbal bleed?
Well, they say rules are made to be broken :D
I love his rockstar attitude toward audio engineering lol. There are no rules. No one is gonna die.
"What could possibly happen? No one's gonna die."
Love it
dont copy paste a top comment moron
I did not see a top comment I did not copy or paste shit I am not a moron it is "don't" not "dont" you illiterate self-righteous fucknut
This is AWESOME! Great snare tone God!
CLA needs his own reality show. I will be the first investor. Let's do this.
SOUNDS AMAZING.
@Slateproaudio please tell me this snare was not recorded by CLH in the first place.
Love his approach
you could just adjust the output of the compressor and skip the trimmer, right?
"No one is gonna die' has to be the quote of the year....
yeah that quote even transcends all this audio stuff, more people need to realise this applies to everyday life situations.
CLA's Take no Prisoners attitude is just great! "No one's gonna Die!" But he's totally right crank that stuff and find the sound you want and love!
The magic of tape saturation AH!
Super aggressive! That's freaking awesome!
Snare? CLA turned it into a damn gunshot. Hats off!
What's with the weird sounds @ 1:33 and 3:02? It's like snare sample flamming in there
when I turned the video up to hear what the plugins were doing on the snare Chris' voice almost tore my head off. Who mixed this? :)
Maybe cla Eq'd his own voice? With a 20db here and a 40db there...then use a few 'trimmers' to smash it into the red....hehe
Are you using the VMR with the Trigger 2?
So he's essentially scooping the mids with his low and high boosts. He's able to do this because there's lots of headroom on his recording allowing him to make, what seems like, 'crazy' boosts.
that was delightful!
Is the output from Pro Tools summed to mono whenever Chris speaks for some reason? Took me a while to figure out why it sounded weird.
I understand his presets so much more now
hello from the future. Yes! I was thinking the same thing watching this. He is actually as nuts with the gain settings as his presets would lead you to believe.
"No wrong way to make a sound" = GENIOUS
Chris you the man
whats with the phase problem in the audio?
+Mashreef Ahmed He didn't have a secluded mic, so when he talks, it's just muting what 'we hear' and you hear the audio picked up from the mic he's talking into. My guess anyways, because you can hear the phase waving during his phrases.
+Mashreef Ahmed It's CLA's vocal mic mixing with the speakers.
what? no CLA waves plugs in this sesh?! ooops
hehe
You have to watch a video not made by a plugin company to see his actual personal preferences. Puremix or Mixwiththemasters. When he does videos for Waves, he sells waves plugins, and here is the same thing but for slate.
Is it me, but when you EQ so much treble into the original snare that it's then obligatory to find a sample to replace basically all the frequencies you've just minced up?
BAT HEAVY nah.
Cos 1, if it sounds good in the end who cares.
2, he’s eqing into his compressor. When he boosts stuff THAT MUCH into a compressor, then those boosted frequencies are what the compressor sees.
So you get all the character from that part of the snare, which is what he wants, and then you take care of what’s missing.
It’s no different from using a bright mic and a dark mic on a guitar cab when you’re recording. Neither alone does what you want, but together they work really well.
Notice how he didn’t cut anything - you could get a very similar result by just cutting the mids of the snare, like most people do. That’s true for most eq moves - cut what you don’t like or boost what you like. Do it however it makes more sense to you.
When using clean digital eq the result should be exactly the same, but when using analog-modeled plugins, you get some extra “juice” by boosting a lot, and that’s what CLA seems to be doing here
Never been a Slate fan but this might convince me.
Can't find this tutorial on the Slatedigital.com website. Is it not available anymore?
@SlateTv I’m new on SlateDigital and I want to watch this course full but I cannot find it in SlateDigital.com “My Academy” . Where I can watch this course from start to and? Thank you in advance for the answer.
And I'm still waiting.... 😂
i love him
I thought he was aggressive, but this video I saw that he is a bit more. Plus 3 db? Bullshit! Let's make this SSL plugin work, hahahahaha.
+Andrey Benassi There's no LAW to getting good sound.
"Lets unleash this b- wonderful snare drum.." hah
No one is gonna die... I love it! ;)
dont copy paste a top comment moron
awesome!
The initial snare sounds like the producer was recording it from the building across the street.
Or that they intentionally put a closed low pass filter on it before CLA got to work.
hate the subscription model but love vmr plugins
Does anyone know what's on the "crusher" send?
"No-one is gonna die"
LOL, I LOVE IT!
i love him so much
What's a roomtrack??
CLA *opens VCC* "Look at the party going on here" LOL!!
"no one is gonna bie" best advice ever
How come the kick is hard L and R?
Just wondering what crusher is?
+Russell Featherstone
I was curious about this as well.
+Sing4LTS I'd love to know, he's only using slate plugins right?
+Sing4LTS I bought the tutorial and wow! Totally worth it
Crusher is just a send bus simply named "Crusher". if you look over at the tracks on the left you can see the track the Crusher bus is assigned to has a VMR that is bypassed and the track is muted. so, in this video Crusher is not doing anything. the real question is whats in that VMR. I'm guessing an FG 116 that's smacking the hell out of whatever is going to it.
I bought the course Anthony Bourdain (btw well worth it). You'll be surprised he doesn't use much compression, rather he chooses to use the channel and bomber to do the work. Crusher is parallel compression. Really recommend it!
what DAW is this?
Pro tools
"no one is gonna die!" - CLA
:-D
"What could possibly happen, no-one is gonna die"
Was he done? He got it to sound sorta like a snare, but it’s definitely not a great sounding snare by the end
Jacob Crowell not done
Best line ever, no one is gonna die 😂
🚨What I learned is that CLA wouldn’t get his final drums sound without him using his samples 🤔 All that money spent in a nice studio, equipment, drum tuning, a lot of room mics and he uses samples 🤷🏻♂️
when i eq as aggressive i run into phase issues and stuff starts to sound really artificial. So this extrem eqing, as careless as it looks, is a skill in itself
Great kick with trig & snare whit 2 mics ?? & inv plrty master big plug ins beutiful snare whit litle effect grettings from mexico
ppl who clicked dislike on this video I personally dont get them...lol. They come to watch it because they know CLA is one of the best and wants to know his secret...why? because they like his sound. But then they have the guts to dislike what he is doing.😂 Well , you wanted to see how is done ..well there you got it. Its either you admire the guy ...or you beat him in his game. But dont hit dislike if you dont even understand phase correlation 🤣
- "Digital is not what I'm used to. I'm used to ANALOGUE. OKAY?!"
okay, sorry....
jeez
His bad shape Room is probably my best room.
Lord Alge is an absolute FREAK !!! 😀
"What could possibly happen? No one is gonna die!" haha
Ok, wouldn't be easier (or at least more traditional) to CUT a few than boosting the hell from the entire spectrumm? Because you know, boost frequency is add volume, so why not cutting the mid-lows (that you hadn't touch a hair) which apparently it's the "box" sound of the snare and then, on the output, add gain? I wonder if wouldn't cause the same effect
Boosting or subtracting on a digital EQ with no colour to it would make it all the same, like you suggest. But this is an emulation of a physical EQ and it may behave differently. As he says though; no one is gonna die :)
I understand your point here, but you may get the false idea that it's sounding better because is louder, you know?
Arthur Azoubel Then when you would use additive eq?
This is a great video if you have all of the plugins. Otherwise its just us watching Chris because he's entertaining and has the ego to crank effects without giving a damn.
Insane Maniac !!!! Almost God like !
I like him and such but can he do one video without advertising his stuff?? just plain mixing techniques?
"what could possibly happen? No one is gonna die" =D
NO ONE IS GONNA DIE!!! 🤣
-CLA The Wizard-
Haha! "What could possibly happen, no one is going to die".
"Noone is going to die" xD
Lol “no one is gonna die”😂😂😂
💓💓💓💓💓💓💓💓
If two things...i really don’t like samples and it doesn’t matter what anybody likes because that’s how you make a mix YOU like...mainly me.
There’s something about that tape machine...
Compression on a snare?? Pah! I apply distortion and combine it with the eq'd clean signal to maintain the initial transient.
Chris Lord Alge: what does he know?
CrankCase08 who cares?
You knowww it.
It doesnt sound like a fake drum kit though?
+Joe “JazEGeoff” Sepe HAHA I had to go back and double check my hearing. he said it doesn't sound like a THICK drum kit - it has no definition, space, depth, etc. I definitely understand hearing fake though since his mic was pretty evenly matched with the drums :P
Jinjer 93 ohhh
far ema I know thats what i was intially referring to, though not very humorously on my part haha. I just dont get this type of sample blending. I guess if you don't have a guy like chicarelli or barressi tracking the kit, you have to get creative. Just sounds fake to me.
+Joe “JazEGeoff” Sepe - He said fake not thick, meaning by putting the fake snare sample in there it doesn't make it sound fake at all like it sometimes can.
***** Nooooo he said thick. lol. It makes absolutely no sense in context with what he's saying for "fake" to fit. He adds the sample, 1 because the snare has all the snap but no dimension, no depth 2 - because as he clearly shows - the snare is lacking in the room track.
Now, as I said to the OP going back I understand the mishear because the track is playing back at nearly the same level, but you're reasoning makes absolutely no sense. No offense. But he clearly states why he adds the stereo room he chose (because it's missing in the rooms) and he says, as I mentioned above, we're getting the snap from the actual snare and this great room sound from the sample. - This is why he pointed out the snare lacking from the room track - "But it doesn't sound like a THICK drum kit. So let's put the room in. And he goes on to process the room track to thicken up the drum kit entirely.
I apologize if I come off as a dick here, but if you haven't watched the entire course, or you can't understand the process this far into it and understand what he's doing, why he's doing it, and why it doesn't make sense for him to have said "but it doesn't sound like a fake drum kit" then I shouldn't have to apologize. If his goal is to make a drum kit sound fake, he wouldn't be the great CLA. End rant, and again no offense, just clearing this up.
The recording was great to begin with, whenever I crank those frequencies it start to sound like crap lol
And then the sad moment when people realize that cranking things like that on anything but the style he's mixing and the sounds he's mixing destroys it and pieces their ears.
оооо🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡
Podes poner todas las perillas al milimetro del video que nunca vas a sonar como el.
look whos video is up the side of this ..... andrew scheeps .... so guys who has the better technique?
His secret (snare samples)
Basically add a sample