Nobel Peace Prize Winners Keep Starting Wars
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- The trouble with the Nobel Peace Prize.
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The trouble with the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Sadly, they can't all be Jimmy Carter.
Well, 1949 Nobel Prize in Medicine was given to the inventor of lobotomy. So yeah
Obama is a war criminal and Nobel peace prize winner as well...like the guy above said, everyone expect Carter.
Maybe, “prizes” are just a sham puppet show to keep the oligarchs feeling good in front of the masses of sheep who are incapable of understanding empire.
Idk. Maybe.
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@@btsarmyiscringeaf7220 ok. Refute it with some sorta...idk...evidence...but great highlight by a state run propaganda machine like VICE (run by Disney and Soros management fund).
Nobel peace prize for peace is what a Grammy is for good music
Nice but meaningless 😁
Wow, this is best comment I read recently. Bravo.
And the award goes too... (Insert Mediocre Crappy Artist Here)
That + a million 😏
You probably listen to folk music . You'll be fine.
The title sounds like an Onion article.
Spot on
Thought it was at first hahah
I had to double-take lol
When the satire becomes real life XD
Bro I was thinking the exact same thing and then I saw it was uploaded by VICE and got PTSD from the Krokodil videos.
May I suggest not awarding politicians until after they retire? Sooner or later this prize will lose all meaning and significance
I think also don't give out such awards annually. Then you have to pick the "best" of that year which might not really live up to a set standard.
Already has.
Already has
May i suggest you leave out politicians completely???
The Peace still has a significance?
"Peace isn't an achievement, it's a responsibility" - the guy from captain America.
Alexander Pierce ....
How did that turned out
Ironic his name is America
Who later turned out to be hydra
The BAD guy from Captain America.
I like the idea of being able to revoke it. That should totally be implemented for sure.
You can't do that? I thought they took Stalin's back
You would be adding future accountability to the prize winners. A responsibility to keep doing good might be unsustainable. How about adding an asterisk to those that horrible fail the honor of being chosen?
They say when they regret it. Like with obama they regretted for giving the peace prize.
+Rick. *As a Norwegian I would just like to tell you: NO!*
Nor will slavery be taken out of our history books. Nor will the aspect that our ground law was anti Jewish for a given amount of years. Nor our positive and negative history with the Soviets (Russians today). Nor our only nuclear reactor turning out to be a science scandal. Our 25 billion US national loss investing in fracking in the US. Nor the aspect that a hippie Viking who refused to shave until he had joined Norway into one nation did so with mostly threats and violence. Humanity isnt all song and dance and we learn more historically from the negatives, I would argue... The "flaws" of the Nobel Peace Prize comity setup is actually not a flaw, but more of a feature. It is not controlled by the government, in turn it some times make strange decisions. Including some that isnt in my nations best interests ether.
@@littlebearoverlook FFS, Stalin never got a Nobel peace prize. Another aspect is that ANYONE can nominate ANYONE. Even Satan himself could be "nominated" for a peace price if enough citizens backed it. In short, being Nominated doesnt mean anything. It is NOT the "Oscars". Interesting people will be nominated and only nominated people can be chosen, but being nominated is as "hard" as buying a losing lottery ticket.
“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands.” - Anthony Bourdain
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Bourdain is a leftist shill, Kissinger had nothing to do with what happened in Cambodia. What happened in Cambodia is that they were sold down the river to the Communists by Prince Sihanouk, but the Cambodian people can’t bear to blame him, as a continuing national symbol, so they blame Kissinger. I don’t hold it against them, they lost a third of their population to bloodthirsty Communist lunatics. However random Americans with this viewpoint are mostly brainwashed leftists themselves, hating on one of the great Cold Warriors we’ve seen
@@TheLocalLt hold on so your saying theeeee Henry Kissinger war mongerer new world order agent is not a leftist ?
@@benjaminfranklin4760 he’s now in bed with Communist China the way all of America was for too long, but it hardly matters as he’s not in power anymore. But the first Cold War he was as consummate a Cold Warrior as they came, pursuing aggressive anti-Communist action around the globe. So many naïve people hated him for it, even then, but most of those people were, and are, leftists themselves and the very idea of geopolitics is foreign to them.
@@TheLocalLt As much as you're right about Kissinger not being responsible (he opposed the bombing of Cambodia), you're a little ignorant of how much USA bombed Cambodia. It's one of the most bombed countries in history thanks to the Vietnam war. Don't think USA's hands are clean.
They just skip over ethnic cleansing like it the least of the problems here
What cleansing. You can't have a tribe that thinks it's more special than others. That junta should hang and Abey is doing the right thing
@@daniellimo4087 The ethnic cleansing of Rohingya in Myanmar, this has nothing to do with Tigray you ignorant nationalist.
@@cageybee7221 aren't they Bangladeshi? And moved
@@TheMagicJIZZ they are fleeing to bangladesh, but they are their own stateless people.
@@cageybee7221 pretty sure they are Bangladeshi or Indian in the context of say past 200 years ago and migration considering their look it and are Muslim
And the Burma people are Buddhist for thousands of years but I understand the violence happening but always good to get information from a young Stalin
Noble Prize should given to the persons after their death 💀 after analysing their whole life.
Here comes the money 🤑💰💵💸💶💴💷👍👌
Then nobody get nobel
@RED RED Just shows that there's something wrong with people's thought process. Most human problems aren't so simple to solve.
@RED RED For the sake of legacy. They give out the Purple Heart posthumously a lot
Every individual is as good and evil as the other, it's the human condition. No matter how rich or poor.
It lost meaning in my eyes when they gave it to President Obama before he even did anything. I mean, maybe wait till his term is done?
Even he was confused
From the video, it seems they awarded it to Obama in order to push him towards peace. But he couldnt care less.
Dude loved drone strikes on schools and hospitals
It was for killing 12 million iraqis .
And to those nutjobs calling out this figure to be wrong .
Yall really think that the US government is gonna tell you .allright we just killed 12 million iraqis for nothing .oh wait it was for oil.
Use yo brain maggotminds .
@Messy To be fair, it seems to be an American thing, not particularly an Obama one... Bush dropped a similar number of bombs during his presidency, Trump somehow managed to do double the bombing than either of them in half the time... I think USA has had like a decade of peace in its entire existence. Think that's the issue.
Next video: “Why Ivy League Schools keep producing mass murderers”
Why Ivy League schools keep producing college ball stars that end up becoming roided out senators that use Nanomachines
@@Padre619 nanomachines *S O N!*
@@Padre619 Armstrong went to UT tho
{ONLY-&-only to the OP and "upvoters": }Jonk???
Elite institutions produce out of touch elites
Hilter was also nominated for Nobel peace prize
Independently-reliable source???
He was nominated around 1927
@@vijaypriyadarshi9422 that was for making Germany Super power.
National socialist!
What about the mass genocide? The propoganda? The segregation?
nominated by whom??
“The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with War” - George Orwell, 1984
You have been vaporized.
"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"
-george orwell 1984
"War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"
-george orwell 1984
99% of the time when someone quotes Orwell on the internet they are guaranteed to be wrong, but I believe you got that 1/100 chance to be right
Lol, Brilliant!
the fact that kissinger won the peace prize after starting coups in every south american nation is fucking wild
Doesn't matter. We needed to secure our interest. Cry about it!
@@apexcrypto01 interest in leading to the deaths and disappearances of millions?
ok sure, if you love killing people
@@sunburnedshirts3724 lmao disappearance of millions? Millions? Come on
@@sunburnedshirts3724 besides blame your leaders or the Soviets. If they didn't try and turn you guys Soviet in our back yard, none of this would happen.
We aren't sitting around and letting Russia gain influence here. Its our interest.
@@apexcrypto01 sustaining a market that is based off of the exploitation of south americans is more important than their political sovereignty i guess.
because actually, the most that were truly influenced by the soviets were 2-3 nations, most of them just wanted to kick out the american businesses that were driving them out of their own land and taking their food.
Nobel “peace” prize but starting wars.. There's something wrong here but I can't put my finger on it
No one seemed to mind when Obama got one then was using drone to kill Iraqis....
Don’t be a coward. Say it as it’s is. All these prize winners are picked by the West foreign policy makers to facilitate their agenda. Butchers knows butchers.
@@WhoIsAmaze bruh, it's literally rigged, you could literally create an apocalypse and you would still win that award 😂
@@WhoIsAmaze same Abiy AHMED of Ethiopia is using UAE drones to kill his 6 million people.
@@WhoIsAmaze It was more about drone strikes in Pakistan/Afghanistan. He also authorised the sale of weapons to rogue states like Saudi Arabia in their campaign Yemen, as well as intervening in Libya/Syrian wars.
The video should be called:
Nobel Peace Committee Bruh Moments
What's this “Bruh”??? Are they all intoxicated frat-boys???
Bruh is supposed to be " Oh wow that is surprising/ironic "
Yea more like it
@@maazkalim bruh, do you live under a rock?
Bruh😂
It's almost as if the award itself is a joke.
Yah.. They should give it to Trump
@@barryirlandi4217 he at least is sending us soldiers back home.
Trumptards warning!
When they gave Henry Kissinger a Nobel peace prize, I knew it was a joke.
Yup... That was enough
Is he worse than Obama???
@@arminius6506 yes and no. Kissinger endorsed Pakistan’s purge of educated people in Bangladesh and prolonged the Vietnam war, but Obama is responsible for countless civilian lives in the Middle East and failing to deliver peace there for 8 years. They are both evil in their own right. Ironically, Trump (who everyone seems to hate) is the first president in a long time to not start a war.
@@eliknight8711 I don't want to defend Obama in any way (profoundly dislike him myself), but Kissinger was way worse, bc not only was his body count way higher, but also he, unlike Obama was imo. much more acting on his own accord, whereas Obama only ever saw himself of a "manager" of the vested interest and existing foreign politics and was a total coward towards breaking with the national security state consensus.
Kissinger on the other hand was a vile power-worshipping opperative, who was in full awareness of his doing and willing to sacrifice millions of lives as mere bargaining chips to advance his own position. Case and point being the Vietnam war, whose peace talks he and the Nixon campaign intentionally sabotaged (simply in order to win against LBJ electorally, a domestic political matter!) and later even expand bombarding and mass murder into the neutral Cambodia, costing countless soldiers and civilian lives more.
Also the subversion of the Chilean democracy and how exactly Kissinger orchestrated the deposing of high ranking officials such as René Schneider, who stood in the way of the subsequent coup was not only in breach of any moral code and international law/convention but also the U.S. constitution itself. Guy was a full-on criminal and should be directly compared to Nazi mass murderers.
That guy trail of global crimes and genocides should earn him a place at the Hague.
TLDR:
The Peace Prize used to be given for acts, then given for the potential to do good, now it’s given for the temperament of western ideologies
As a Norwegian, it annoys me at have reduced the peace prize to this
Yup
Truer words have never been said
Nobody cares about that prize anymore lmao
@@ehansalman8461 aren't Nobel prizes usually go with a cash prize as well? There's at least that for a incentive
That Kissinger alone has a Nobel is ALL you need to know about how empty the award is.
for real. This guy is the devil
And Teddy Roosevelt too.
Google legal name fraud. . . . . . . . . its illegal to use a legal name.
You must not know much about history if you believe only the west has done this.
@@supremelyeducated3273, pretty ironic that you are named “Supremely Educated” when you only say that the genocides were only done by the west.
I mean look at Myanmar.
"We felt we should give a hand so he could strongly effect international affairs" Yeah. The President of the United States needs a hand effecting international affairs. I would say that is literally the person in the world who LEAST needs help in that regard.
"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Mr dent.
Or they were never the hero from the first place
Christopher Nolan knows things about the world which the world doesn't know itself
They were never a hero just someone who did one heroic act and people jumped to give them that title.
They talk the talk but often seem to be too busy to actual walk the walk.
Nobel “peace” prize has been devaluated from the market.
the UN food programme one this year was actually very deserving
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 You might want to look at that one again, the programme is sadly riddled with corruption. money was siphoned off to arms traders and terrorists. Many large western nations pressure the UN so that funds to develop sustainable farms in these improvised areas never get approved because they have large industrial farms back home dependant on supply contracts.
Workers faced sexual assault, abduction and worse. food is diverted in some countries and sold to people with means, never reaching the people who need it, bribes in the millions are paid to corrupt people and reform seems impossible because you've got one side trying to use these problems to scrap the program altogether and another side which has determined that the best way to move forward is to downplay the problems and act like everything is fine.
@@louiscypher4186 That's a lot of info on the situation....where are you getting this from tho? just curious
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 various sources but you should many stick to the UN reports on the issue as they cut out the bullshit and focus on the difficulties of the situation in context.
@@louiscypher4186 okay lol
"Why did i get the noble peace prize?"- Obama on the late night show
That moment of self awareness and wink and nod to what he about to do.
@@mrsoshadabaadman be a better President than the one we had for the past four years
@@litjay7073 It's all a parade of war profiteers and stewards of an Empire that rebranded.
@@litjay7073 Trump didn't get us into any new wars, got us out of wars or reduced our presence in them and this year has brokered 5 historic peace deals in the Middle East, along with a couple other peace actions in a few other countries. He legit deserves the Nobel Peace Prize this year but doesnt really matter, the Nobel Prize is a fucking joke anyways.
@@litjay7073 ,
You must have a low opinion of Obama because you compare him with Trump and of course, you should.
Nobel peace prize is so infuriating. Given to Kissinger, "Mother" Theresa and Obama
Ah no! What the hell did Mother Theresa do? 😢
@@SurprisinglyDeep boy just google it ,you will question your existance
@@SurprisinglyDeep torture people in the name of god. She was a villain villain, nothing positive about her. Coloniser bullshit.
@@ungaaatioo2359Don't call people boy, it's considered rude
@@Yashodhan1917 What? How did Mother Theresa "torture people"?
Bruh this reads like an Onion headline.
Broo, makes it more scarier
Vice is getting closer and closer to the onion.
Reads? It's a video
I'm getting an ad for Vice... while watching Vice.
Thanks, UA-cam, that's totally useful.
Its weird youtube ads are so weird i get Indian music despite the fact I can't speak hindi or even live in asia....
I got a pizza hut ad I guess that's something
Bruh- welp i got a jd.id ad (Indonesian Ad)
I get Doordash ads that tell me to go to work. . . I've been working for Doordarshan for about two years now . . .
@@GodsWheat I played the Ketchup song once on Spotify and for the rest of the week all the ads I got were in Spanish. Like... I will definitely by your product cuz I totally understand what you're saying.
“You were the chosen one! It was said you would end wars, not start them! You were to bring peace to this world, not leave it in ruins!”
"I HATE YOU!!!"
"So naive."
I feel like I'm gonna win the noble prize soon. Coz my comments start wars. 🥲
Ok
Then stop making low effort comments
okay that gave me a chuckle
you here as well bruhh
First malaysian to get a noble peace prize loll
When you find yourself saying the sentence "I wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing, that's too strong of a term", you're probably a terrible person.
I am just searching for that one Obama comment here lol.......
Mine ^^
He did start wars so defo fits the bill.
Yup
He started 5 wars, had a kill list, droned civilians, and assassinated a 16 year old US citizen.
i was going to make the "Obama started heaps of wars, trump hasnt" remark, but my flameproof suit as at the cleaners today.
i havnt watched the video yet, does it call him out directly?
When one of your policies is hoping for the best when choosing a candidate, that’s not that great
The one named after Nobel prize is literally the inventor of Dynamite, what do you expect?
Wow..
Dynamite is mainly used in mining, quarrying, construction and demolition. Acting like dynamite is only used for war is like saying a kitchen knife or pickaxe is only good for killing.
@Random Duck And gunpowder is used for fireworks, but that doesn't mean that it isn't used much more for deadlier reasons
@@randomduck8679 Nobel owned multiple weapons factories and made a fortune off of selling weapons.
"We will never have a perfect record"
Well you could have a lot better of one if you revoked the Prizes of those who passively or actively commit war crimes.
Or give it postmortem
- "I did get the nobel peace prize"
- "oh really? What was that for?"
- "to be honest I still don't know" 😂
It's sad because to Colbert and Obama that was just a joke but to the people who care it's true. It makes me sad seeing Colbert fawning over Barack, Colbert Report was so much better and more vital to society than his useless talk show
Probably the only truthful thing he ever said.
@@CharlesinGA If you think Obama is a big liar, you haven't paid attention the last four years.
- I did get to serve two terms...
- Oh really? What were those for?
-To be honest, I still don’t know
@@simonrodriguez4685 It's not like he could have done anything with a rebublican Senate and a conservative Congress.
1:20 Nobel did not invent TNT. He invented dynamite.
thought this was an onion video at first
This is such an underrated comment
This is why ONN when out of business. Satire is just can't compete with reality
@@melli7193
Reality turned stranger than fiction , they couldn’t compete
Obama : i order one drone strike to libya
@George H. W. Bush Obama did more drone striking than you lmao
Oh here's the Obama comment
@@christina7171 they are not wrong though .The dude was probably more corrupt than bush . Coming from an asian btw
@@naiem7531 I'm not disagreeing, I said that because I saw someone further up say they were looking for "the Obama comment" lol
@@christina7171 i comment this before i saw that guy comment, im not us citizen or conservative leaning either. Just point out he hypocrisy of nobel peace prize.
Funny thing is, bobel in literature is turned out to be a bigger joke, very indo-european languages bias.
I think the most objective nobels are physic, chemistry, medic/biology. Other than that is politically and culturally bias.
As a Vietnamese, I figured out the reason why Le Duc Tho refused to take the Nobel piece prize. (wonder who? It's the man who defeated Kissinger and claimed Vietnam independence-in-law)
Ổng nói ổng ko nhận vì lí do gì ta?
@@hoaang9455 mặt nổi thì là "chưa có hoà bình thực sự ở VN"
Còn mặt chìm là "Tại sao kẻ gây chiến tranh lại nhận đc giải thưởng về Hoà bình?"
@@hoaang9455 nobel là công cụ chính trị thôi. K nhận nhưng bọn tư bẩn muốn giữ thể diện thù có thể ép nhận đc đấy.
@@hoaang9455 "lm vì tấm lòng" á!! Bác hơi bị ngây thơ r đấy
It should be given after 5 years, interval.
Yea
At least Obama was honest...he didn’t get it either!
What was honest about Snowden exposing the truth? Was it wanting Snowden sentenced as a traitor? Or was it Obama continuing to get rich off the more people he bombed?
He seemed pretty embarrassed at the time. He knew he got it purely because of his popularity in Norway. "Peace" is such an absurd, subjective term, anyway. The Allied soldiers in WWII killed huge numbers, yet they contributed more to international peace than anyone ever. Truman, by dropping 2 nuclear bombs, set an example that greatly reduced the overall number of deaths had an invasion been forced, prevented WWIII and greatly reduced the number of war dead over time.
@Mjolnir C. What do you mean by it's not democracy?
@@Christobanistan Yeah, I might not have used the US nuclear bombing of Japan, itself arguably a war crime due to mass targeting civilians, to send a message to the USSR as an example of peace making and not a fairly explosive signal of the Cold War beginning in full swing. Especially since it's contribution to Japans unconditional surrender continues to be intensely debated, and potentially only being an additional concern on top of the Russian's, with their revolutionary record of chopping off imperial heads, invading Manchuria and with eyes on Hokkaido. In general, probably a very poor example, a war crime that signalled the beginning of US-USSR competition in earnest that would reap millions and millions of deaths in Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, and indirectly funded the devastating Cold War conflicts in Africa that the continent still arguably has yet to recover from. No, the nuclear bombings don't stand for peace but mass murder, death, and military chauvinism.
Watch out this guy knows the inner workings of the state and is tracking the CIA....pfhaha... how about you take those conspiracies elsewhere
Mahatma Gandhi: "Am I a joke to you?"
No prize for anyone who actually spread peace.
@@RealMan42088 That's not what he meant…
@@Azerez01 they kind of saw him as above any "Laurel/Prize". Go read the statements given by the core committee as to why he wasn't given a Nobel Prize.
@@aadrath1236 That's BS. Gandhi wasn't given the peace prize because he was a threat to the western forces who wanted to leave India but wanted to continue controlling it. In fact, they got him killed so that they wouldn't have to recognize him like that.
@@aadrath1236 he was nominated 5 times
Criteria for Nobel Peace Prize:
Don't be peaceful.
7:03 “Hit or miss, the noble peace prize ....”
I’m having mememories about this.
Worst part is, Kissinger never made a secret out of being an opportunist of the worst variety. He only puts as much though into morals as you pay him to do so.
Why does this look like an onion headline?
Because you’re onion head
There’s also the alt video where warlords are fighting for peace 😂
Nobel Peace Prize was invented by an arms dealer.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
If that's not a meta-level commentary on society, then I don't know what is.
An arms dealer who felt so bad for what he had done that he spent his fortune trying to celebrate life and human achievements.
@@theboysvault2757 Technically he was a chemist, who sold explosive chemicals. But is disappointed by it's users and people's opinion on him as a weapon dealer rather than being a chemist. I mean chemist always gets a bad rep for inventing deadly stuff but come on! Physics made nuclear weapons and they get off scot free.
@@horsestaple3546 In defense of physics, it never quite had the pro-war camp of Chemistry. Even those who worked on the Atomic bomb were against it’s use. There were no Bosch’s gleefully making chemical weapons in physics. Even Werner Von Braun is let off the hook for his work on the US space program after the V2.
@@ZeteticPhilosopher In further defense of chemistry, it's just coincidence that all types of modern weapons contain chemicals, from guns to poison gas to flamethrowers to explosives and such...
But sometimes they make bullet proof vests!
They shouldn't be giving it to politicians at all. And they should definitely have the ability to revoke it.
At this point, the NPP seems on par with the Times Person of the Year. At least Obama questions why they awarded it to him.
Yeah that award is is meaningless
The problem isn't with the Nobel Peace Prize, it is with the committee that awards it to any high profile person for the smallest of things. Long gone are the days where you had to do or achieve something for incredible for Peace to get a Nobel Peace Prize.
The Noblest of Awards has been tainted.
Maybe Nobel should have its own version of the Razzies.
What show was the razziés from?
There is already Ignobel prize but it's for crazy topics. Like for a guy who started dead people's association or designing unspillable coffee cup !
@@firstname1317 it gives worst awards in film category. Sandra Bullock has the unique record of winning Razzie and Oscar in the same year !
Amen!
"... we in the West treat it as a moment when we sort of decide perform OUR VALUES as the West... who do we think is doing good in the world?..."
This quote basically summarizes what the nobel peace prize is about.
"Winners should not change their policies after winning."
LOOOOOL
When the prize itself is the benefactor of somebody who invented dynamite
He invented dynamite because a relative died due to the unsafe conditions of handling gunpowder dumbass
Before Dynamite it was insanely dangerous to mine or tear down buildings. Explosives would go off for no reason.
He didn’t start the War, the Federal Army was attacked in their sleep by the TPLF and Tigray Soldiers in the Federal Army.
Even if what you are saying is true, he should have accepted the call for dialogue and avoid the suffering of the Tigrians the war has caused
@@japhethj.3752 And risk national security and integrity ?
The nation is more important then dialogue.
@@japhethj.3752 he gave the TPLF a 72 hours ultimatum, twice
@@japhethj.3752
This is not speculation, this is fact.
Please go watch the tonnes of videos on what's happening in Ethiopia now.
Abiy didn't start the war, but he's sure as hell determined to end it.
Exactly! The way western media is portraying the Ethiopian situation is quite troubling
I watched two hours of the Onion News Network and this came up on auto. I still thought I was watching the Onion
We can have a perfect record if we give Nobel Peace Prize posthumously.
This sounds like an Onion news headline.
Wait, we can get a Nobel Peace Prize when starting a war?
No wonder that one angry german man declared war to the whole world.
In the current times, a prize for peace is nonsence
why? people working in war torn nations like kaela muller actually deserve it
@@deepstariaenigmatica2601 but what does that symbol actually mean in any real, material sense for the people that are actually doing the work and working in the pit of suffering? A shiny medal to make them feel good? "Every single problem in the world has been solved, let's wait until next year to do it all over again! 😋" It *is* nonsense
@@comeawaywithme It's not non sense although it is another conversation worth having. it's easy calling everything pointless and non sense sitting at the comfort of your home.
This is why I believe that as far as politicians go, the peace prize should only be awarded after they have served office so that you could assess the legacy and impact of said leaders on promoting and bringing about peace.
"Either you die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain"
Can someone please explain to me why Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize? Like what did he do to deserve it?
As far as I know, he said he was going to take troops out of Iraq ASAP. Guess what, he didn’t. He did eventually but after years.
Because he was black while being President I guess, or for his whole "Hope" campaign, at least they didn't give Trump one
+mehdi. I live in Norway and have read enough local articles on the subject both in modern times and when it happened. The main reason Obama got the Nobel peace prize was because of what he ran on and that people really thought he was the type of change the US needed. A "FDR 2.0" type guy and in turn the comity, under the leadership of Thorbjørn Jagland which is a bit eccentric even if he is a decent politician, gave him the prize as an attempt to have him lean more and harder towards the policies he ran on and start to play a bit more hardball etc with the senate and such to get things going.
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Obviously, Obama turned out to be a red herring that in turn didnt do enough and ironically got Trump indirectly elected.
Lobos222 great explanation! Thanks
@@Lobos222 They obviously didn't know a thing about Obama, including the illegal tactics he used to win his Senate seat, then barely showed up for his Senate office before he started running for President. Isn't the peace prize suppose to be for real accomplishments? Seems like the committee was doing nothing but projecting there "hope and change " onto Obama.
7:44 He sounds like me when I would be giving a test that I didn't study for 😂
Did youtube just recommended this after the coup?
*In the words of Harvey Dent in the Dark Knight: Live long enough to become the villain*
It's a dumb quote.
Die a hero or live long enough to become the villian
@@mjtheory *Yeah, forgot the 1st part*
@@mjtheory this make more sense
@@castle7689 you can still edit it you know
This is some of the best reporting I’ve personally seen from Vice in a long while. ❤️🙏🏽
"It sure is peaceful now that everyone else but me is dead from wars"
-This person in the future probably
The peace prize has become an embarrasment to Norway
And Sweden?
it should've been called off already
It only takes one party to start a war so we can't blame without looking at their specific circumstances.
1:20 No, no, no, wrong. Sorry but as a chemist, I cannot listen to this. Alfred Nobel was NOT the inventor of TNT. First of all, you don't invent chemicals, you discover them and second of all, he invented dynamite by storing nitroglycerine in diatomite. TNT, or it's proper name, trinitrotoluene, was discovered by Julius Wilbrand.
In the present the Nobel Peace Prize is like the Grammy for Music or GOTY for Games
You cant put Arafat in the same group as the others! Defending and "fighting" for your land is no crime and surely no Start of a war.
i'm starting to think it is a joke, how can 5 people decide who deserves it.
Wait, they give it to people choosen by the Norwegian government? I thought it was a global thing.
hhhahahahhah Nordic countries really tough, they are just reaping of the benefits of turmoil more like sailing onto it steering in their best interest because they are nothing without turmoil nothing to stay neutral in or be the observer of. They may have science, technology, and money but where does it really come from conflict, war criminals, criminals and corrupt business,corporations while you and I are just gears in this chain of clockwork we call reality.
7:02 i really thought for a second he was going to continue with "i guess they never miss, huh?"
Same.
Congratulations! Here is your Nobel Peace Prize.
Recipient: *Peace was never an option.*
The case for Abiy is different, can you do a separate Report on why Ethiopia is in a civil war.
Exactly
Nope Its haram for western
media and reporters
@@johnpollux3803 lol Ethiopia is Christian
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underrated comment
No.
it's not late to delete this
dirty deeds done dirt cheep
hush okay fine.. but no more nukes
"When Kissinger won the Nobel peace prize, satire died" -Tom Lehrer
The Nobel Peace Prize has lost its meaning when its handed out as a participation award in the modern world.
It’s all political, they don’t care about the true actions of these “winners”
In defence to Aung, she didn't rule the country, the military did
When did Abiye start a war? Wasn't TPLF who attacked an army base first? Or is reacting the first action that count?
The title makes it seem like a video from The Onion
TL;DR: Politicians are too turbulent for a Nobel Peace Prize
2020 be wildin' fr, vice releasing this based af video and actually saying obama and drone in one sentence is a fucking miracle
The biggest issue I see with the Peace Prize is that you can only give it to a person or organization based upon what they've done in their past, and their "plans" for the future which don't always pan out. Unfortunately, we human beings can't actually view the future. And honestly, all people are fallible, we all sin, we all make small and major mistakes. The higher up on the food chain you go, the bigger those mistakes can be. I'm sure, in 1991, Aung San Suu Kyi never imagined her nation taking the turn it has taken today. Even recently, with Abiy Ahmed, I'm sure he didn't plan on what is happening now in Ethiopia. But there are some names missing that I don't even know if they were considered or not. What about Paul Kagame, the president of Rwanda? Hutu or Tutsi, his population adore him, and he has changed Kigali in record time, from a mass genocide and war to "The Singapore of Africa". Some people on the outside looking in think he's a dictator, but what kind of dictator does what Kagame has done in just 2 decades? Last interview I saw with him, he was genuinely concerned about his country and what would happen after he is gone. "Benevolent dictator", maybe. Authoritarian? Absolutely not. But can the void be replaced when he's gone by someone who will spark tensions again? Absolutely. Maybe Kagame should be considered for bringing not only peace, but also prosperity, to a nation that suffered a brutal genocide. In contrast to Ahmed in Ethiopia, there is one thing to consider. He inherited a nation in turmoil. He isn't going to be able to fix it overnight. There are hundreds if not thousands of ethnic tribes throughout Africa and even those who have lived side by side since the dawn of human civilization hate one another. If you really want to place blame somewhere concerning the various conflicts throughout Africa, blame the Colonizers (yes, I know that Ethiopia and Liberia were never officially "colonized", but that doesn't mean that the countries that bordered them kept everything in their own areas, if you understand what I mean). Every single leader that comes to task in any African country has far more hurdles to jump over than just about anywhere else in the world, thanks to the slave trade and the "scramble for Africa".
We judge things for their endings.
As I always said, the Nobel "peace" prize was always a joke of an award
Sadly, they can't all be Jimmy Carter.
Jimmy Carter was a wimp,
You do know Jimmy Carter did genocide in East Timor and Indonesia? He's still a war criminal.
www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/18/jimmy-carters-blood-drenched-legacy/
@@rickardkaufman3988 Throw a dart into a field of US presidents and you'll hit a war criminal every time.
Sounds like Jimmy Carter is all you know
HE JUST WANTED A PEANUT FIELD
Lmao that Dynamite King guy (intentionally derogatory) should've donated his fortune to a charity? Who does the peace prize help?
A perfect record? Going from peace prize to instigating war is not some blip.
Orwellian Speak at it finests.
Stating one thing but doing another thing, (Doublespeak).
“War is peace, freedom is slavery, [and] ignorance is strength.”
“Henry Kissinger is often pegged.”
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ok, but if you revoke the prize, do you revoke the money too? how would that work?
“Famous for being famous”
“You never know what the Swedish grandpas were thinking”
"The treachery in men's basketball hearts is jealousy best friend; accessories and felonies will never end." ~ Coremega
There shouldn't even be a prize for peace
that's what you get from accepting a prize from the person who created one of the most destructive handheld bombs ever used.