I just got into gardening and I’m 13 so my mom let me get a 4 by 4 raised bed. She has been surprised by how well the garden is doing. I have learned from your and Keven’s videos so thank you!!!
I love that this video feels like you saw Kevin's video and decided to give us the detailed PhD students version of one segment of his video lol... I can almost imagine you doing a dissertation on the Florida weave 😂
@@jacquesinthegarden it goes well with the ongoing way you guys seem to playfully one up each other. However, I appreciate the detailed version like this. It's the way I learn. Give me all the info you possibly can and let me run with it and see what I can do with it 👍
Someone had donated 6 6ft by 1ft by 1ft coated metal square tomato cages to my local thrift store. They were going to scrap them because they didn’t know what they were, but I asked about them and they just let me have them! It was probably $250 4 years ago.
We went to cattle panel trellis's this year, and so far, they're working wonderfully. Similar to your net weaving (3rd choice). Only drawback is I'm monitoring growth almost daily, because the training is a little tricky working growing stems up though rigid openings, whereas moving netting would be easier. Thanks Jacques
Great video! We use a Florida weave on our farm, about 100 foot beds with tomatoes on both sides. It’s very unruly (especially with the cherries), takes a long time to keep everything tidy, but the yield makes all the difference. Great method. If I were gardening a small plot for myself though that net method seems like exactly the way to go, super easy to work with once it’s set up and plenty of tomatoes for one person to have a nightly bruschetta from July to September
I do pretty much the same. We have the garden enclosed in deer fencing and I’m making it pull double duty as a tomato trellis. Great air flow, for sure. It’s thin enough wire that I can also use the tomato clips, which has seriously saved my sanity when trying to wrangle the stems.
I love the single string method so much. Small backyard, limited space, blah, blah ... It allows me to plant more densely and try new varieties while I continue to grow my main-stays. But, like you, I will let 2/3 even 4 vines grow for maximum yields. The other advantage, is if I decide I want to remove a plant (for whatever reason) - I can let the neighboring plants bush out more and not lose overall production. For me, it's the only way to fly.
Jacques. Florida weave done with 3 T-posts for 5 tomato plants. Tied extra string to support stems side to side. We have 3 groups for eating and canning. New England. A storm traveling 45 mph across the country and our trees were bending and waving. Thank God we did not lose any. Extra work but worth it. Thanks for sharing to show everyone how to.
I’m growing my tomatoes up two $30 arches reinforced with some 3’ stakes. There’s a foot between them and I ran string between them to add additional space for branching. It’s working wonderfully.
Thanks for this detailed video! It’s my first year gardening and I use the stake method within containers. It does it’s job, but definitely will try a different method next summer.
Hi Jacques, Thanks so much!!! I only have determinates this year due to space issues. Have a small deck of a boat that can get crowded - but I have previously grown several indeterminates all together and did not have many problems and had a great yield. I like your advice, will consider your compostable option, but not sure it will work. Will think about it for next year. This year has left me with a plethora of disease issues due to too much rain, too much cloud and too cool temps, oh, and ducks, coots and moorhens thinking I am preparing nests for them🤨. It's been a bad year😔😭😔😭😔😭😔😭😔😭😪😪😪😪😪😢😢😢😢
Oof cloudy cold years are terrible, always sets everything back. I highly encourage you to check out the dwarf tomato project. Those tomatoes are indeterminate and make.full size tomatoes but the plants are dwarf and never get over 4-5 feet! Victory seeds carry the widest selection
I am a complete fail at efficient trellising this year. Some of the plants in my tomato forest have 4 stakes, one of which is 8 feet tall. They loo like espaliered fruit trees. I will put in t-posts this winter for tomatoes and dahlias. I really didn't plan on making an absolutely giant tomato forest in an old bed that has been fallow and under cardboard for over a year. But, while perhaps unwieldy and expensive (8 ft stakes are an investment!), it works. My cherries just started and I have a few slicers ripening. It's the best time of the year!
Haha the classic tomato forest, my first year was a collection of random branches random straight looking pieces of wood and metal from all over the yard. But we got a huge harvest held together by twine and sticks!
I've tried everything but the string method, and I hands down prefer my netting trellis. Everything is cut to the perfect size, I can just take it down with the fence posts at the end of the year, carefully wrap it up, and store for the winter. Key word is "carefully". A combination of string and clips keeps everything fairly neat and tidy, although I let some plants get a little wild near the top of them this year, just to see how it all works out. So far, it's been a great year for toms as well as cukes!
5:37 I love hearing more about Jute! Since the introduction of plastics, Jute use has fallen sharply, but with countries being concerned over plastic waste, maybe they'll go back to it as a natural solution. 🌱
I used the jute for the string method and already have a couple stings broken. Lots of rain this spring and the string broke at the top of the support.
You have so many toms that I can't believe you eat all of them. Do you preserve them or give them away? I give my extras, (plenty) away to neighbors. In fact I have my garden in the front yard accessible to them and encourage them to help themselves. They've all got the misconception that I'm very generous. They don't seem to grasp that they are helping me by taking them. I can never eat all I grow. I do like to pickle a bunch of my cucumbers. I have had so many this year that a couple neighbors pickled some of my extras also.😅. Love❤ your channel. You do a fantastic job demonstrating and explaining your message.
So I do my best to eat them all but my family is also fully addicted to tomatoes. Last weekend I had a little summer party and each person left with 2-5 big tomatoes! I have made a few batches of sauce and also have a ton of frozen tomatoes already. I am actually planning on making a little produce donation box for the neighbors well!
@@brianmoore4299 I'm an avid fisherman and I always "Catch and Release." I also grow tons of tomatoes but I don't like eating them. I use the "Grow and Throw Away" method when it comes to those nasty tomatoes
@@eviltomthai I'm not sure how to respond to that comment. But it sounds stupid to grow tons of tomatoes to just throw away. Why waste your time and money on something you don't plan to use? At least give them to the local food bank.
That was really informative. I mostly just use stakes. My bed is considered to be ADA compliant. It's like a raised bed; but, on legs instead of on the ground. I'd like to try some of the other trellis options; but, I'm not sure which would work the best. I would still need to reach the top level of tomatoes.
I would highly recommend you look into the "dwarf tomato project" there are just over 100 tomato varieties that have been bred to cap out around 4-5 feet. That means you can use a simple stake or cage without compromise. The tomatoes are fully flavored and full size and produce abundantly!
Florida weave seems really similar to trellising for grapes and cane berries. Now I'm wondering if you can set up a more permanent trellis system like those and use the twine and clips to keep things off the ground and organized. 🤔🤔
I love the Florida weave but I think a huge downside is early on in the season you have to bend over pretty hard to complete the string rows and it's bad on the back. Back-friendly trellis methods I'm def gonna pay more attention to in the future.
That is a valid one but as a counter point they already have a solution! You run string through a piece of pipe and tension it with your thumb so that you can wrap all your plants without bending over. You can find examples on UA-cam as it is common practice on farms!
Has Jacques the tomato whisperer covered "greenback" tomatoes before? I'm noticing that the shoulders on my toms are taking longer and longer to ripen.
I'll admit that I'm a pretty hands off gardener once they're out from under the grow lights and in the ground. I use a bamboo stake and don't prune (so my garden looks a little unruly) but the tomatoes are producing, so I must be doing something right?!
How long would the netting last? Do you know what materials would be best to make a net, and how to DIY? I've ended up making makeshift nets that end up looking like spider webs, for things like angled luffa, but I never considered using it for the tomatoes.
The Florida weave failed me epically almost completely destroying 2 tomato plants😢. My preferred trellis is a cattle panel, more expensive but i can grow a 15 ft tom.
Please help! I love tomatoes. It’s the only my reason I am gardening too and these hornworms are eating my tomatoes! I’m so sad. It’s my first year Gardening. I had this massive Cherokee purple slicer, and now my heart is broken because the hornworms are starting to attack my tomatoes. I tried searching for them, but they’re very hard to spot. Do you have any advice on this matter? Do you use BT for this also? I never heard you mention that you spray your tomatoes. Any help that you could give me on this matter would be greatly appreciated!
I don't ever spray them for caterpillars as I find that all the birds in my yard destroy them before I could even try to find them. However, bt would work perfectly for them without damaging much else. If you get a little uv flashlight from Amazon you can use it at night and the hornworms will glow in the dark making them easy pickings!
@@jacquesinthegarden guess how many I caught last night with a black light??? 27!!! That’s right! 27! Can you imaging what they would’ve done to my tomato plants? They love my sun golds. Do you have a gopher problem? Let me know what you guys find helpful with this. I live in Ramona, so the gophers are basically on steroids here 😒
Little tip there - if you put “-weave” in your search alongside it, the engine will filter out results for Florida weave, leaving you with just those delicious Florida tomatoes
I just got into gardening and I’m 13 so my mom let me get a 4 by 4 raised bed. She has been surprised by how well the garden is doing. I have learned from your and Keven’s videos so thank you!!!
Good on ya sweetheart 🎉 13 years old and got yourself a little garden griwing hiw cool and aesome is that !! ❤😊
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I love hearing this! Keep growing!
Welcome gardener! Some counties in the USA have a Junior Master Gardener program. Ya might find it fun too!
Atta boi!!!!
What are you growing?
Make sure to give a lot of fertilizer on tomatoes,but be careful not to burn them.
Garden hermit in his natural habitat ❤
Thanks, Jacques, for the detailed explanations of the pros and cons of each method. 🍅
Absolutely happy to do so!
I love that this video feels like you saw Kevin's video and decided to give us the detailed PhD students version of one segment of his video lol... I can almost imagine you doing a dissertation on the Florida weave 😂
😂😂 love this comment, thanks for watching
@@jacquesinthegarden it goes well with the ongoing way you guys seem to playfully one up each other. However, I appreciate the detailed version like this. It's the way I learn. Give me all the info you possibly can and let me run with it and see what I can do with it 👍
Someone had donated 6 6ft by 1ft by 1ft coated metal square tomato cages to my local thrift store. They were going to scrap them because they didn’t know what they were, but I asked about them and they just let me have them! It was probably $250 4 years ago.
Wow that wild and great find!
We went to cattle panel trellis's this year, and so far, they're working wonderfully. Similar
to your net weaving (3rd choice). Only drawback is I'm monitoring growth almost daily,
because the training is a little tricky working growing stems up though rigid openings,
whereas moving netting would be easier.
Thanks Jacques
Ahh that makes a lot of sense, for me the storability or compatibility is what I prefer
Great video! We use a Florida weave on our farm, about 100 foot beds with tomatoes on both sides. It’s very unruly (especially with the cherries), takes a long time to keep everything tidy, but the yield makes all the difference. Great method.
If I were gardening a small plot for myself though that net method seems like exactly the way to go, super easy to work with once it’s set up and plenty of tomatoes for one person to have a nightly bruschetta from July to September
Absolutely my same experience, weave is a producer but can be a bear to maintain
I just tie them to my chain link fence 😊 still gonna watch though
I can't see a better way to make use a fence than trellising some tomatoes!
I do pretty much the same. We have the garden enclosed in deer fencing and I’m making it pull double duty as a tomato trellis. Great air flow, for sure. It’s thin enough wire that I can also use the tomato clips, which has seriously saved my sanity when trying to wrangle the stems.
I started doing the Florida weave 2 years ago when you showed us how to do it.
Hopefully it has been working out for youn
I love the single string method so much. Small backyard, limited space, blah, blah ... It allows me to plant more densely and try new varieties while I continue to grow my main-stays. But, like you, I will let 2/3 even 4 vines grow for maximum yields. The other advantage, is if I decide I want to remove a plant (for whatever reason) - I can let the neighboring plants bush out more and not lose overall production. For me, it's the only way to fly.
That's a great point on culling and allowing them to take over in their place!
Great info--thank you, Jacque. 😊
Jacques. Florida weave done with 3 T-posts for 5 tomato plants. Tied extra string to support stems side to side. We have 3 groups for eating and canning. New England. A storm traveling 45 mph across the country and our trees were bending and waving. Thank God we did not lose any. Extra work but worth it. Thanks for sharing to show everyone how to.
That's awesome to hear and glad you didn't lose anything!
I’m growing my tomatoes up two $30 arches reinforced with some 3’ stakes. There’s a foot between them and I ran string between them to add additional space for branching. It’s working wonderfully.
That sounds great and probably loaded with tomatoes!
@@jacquesinthegarden It really is! And it’s beautiful as well, so a win win win!
Thanks for this detailed video! It’s my first year gardening and I use the stake method within containers. It does it’s job, but definitely will try a different method next summer.
Glad it was helpful!
You have a teaching talent ! Thanks for sharing 🎉
I appreciate it and thanks for watching!
Hi Jacques,
Thanks so much!!!
I only have determinates this year due to space issues. Have a small deck of a boat that can get crowded - but I have previously grown several indeterminates all together and did not have many problems and had a great yield.
I like your advice, will consider your compostable option, but not sure it will work. Will think about it for next year.
This year has left me with a plethora of disease issues due to too much rain, too much cloud and too cool temps, oh, and ducks, coots and moorhens thinking I am preparing nests for them🤨. It's been a bad year😔😭😔😭😔😭😔😭😔😭😪😪😪😪😪😢😢😢😢
Oof cloudy cold years are terrible, always sets everything back. I highly encourage you to check out the dwarf tomato project. Those tomatoes are indeterminate and make.full size tomatoes but the plants are dwarf and never get over 4-5 feet! Victory seeds carry the widest selection
Great video Jacques
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing I'm definitely going to try strings tomorrow i never try before Thank you ❤.
Happy to help and best of luck!
Thank u Bhai for this detailed video nd information ❤❤
I am a complete fail at efficient trellising this year. Some of the plants in my tomato forest have 4 stakes, one of which is 8 feet tall. They loo like espaliered fruit trees. I will put in t-posts this winter for tomatoes and dahlias. I really didn't plan on making an absolutely giant tomato forest in an old bed that has been fallow and under cardboard for over a year. But, while perhaps unwieldy and expensive (8 ft stakes are an investment!), it works. My cherries just started and I have a few slicers ripening. It's the best time of the year!
Haha the classic tomato forest, my first year was a collection of random branches random straight looking pieces of wood and metal from all over the yard. But we got a huge harvest held together by twine and sticks!
I've tried everything but the string method, and I hands down prefer my netting trellis. Everything is cut to the perfect size, I can just take it down with the fence posts at the end of the year, carefully wrap it up, and store for the winter. Key word is "carefully". A combination of string and clips keeps everything fairly neat and tidy, although I let some plants get a little wild near the top of them this year, just to see how it all works out. So far, it's been a great year for toms as well as cukes!
Oh yeah the hardest part is keeping the net organized for sure!
Nice, great upload💙💙💙💙
Thank you! Cheers!
5:37
I love hearing more about Jute! Since the introduction of plastics, Jute use has fallen sharply, but with countries being concerned over plastic waste, maybe they'll go back to it as a natural solution. 🌱
I'm very happy with it, the only downside I've experienced is that it is a scratchy material which can lead to more disease in theory.
@@jacquesinthegarden Perhaps if they treated it with a bees wax it would be less prickly, and weather a bit better. 🤔
I used the jute for the string method and already have a couple stings broken. Lots of rain this spring and the string broke at the top of the support.
Thank you for sharing!!!
You have so many toms that I can't believe you eat all of them. Do you preserve them or give them away? I give my extras, (plenty) away to neighbors. In fact I have my garden in the front yard accessible to them and encourage them to help themselves. They've all got the misconception that I'm very generous. They don't seem to grasp that they are helping me by taking them. I can never eat all I grow. I do like to pickle a bunch of my cucumbers. I have had so many this year that a couple neighbors pickled some of my extras also.😅. Love❤ your channel. You do a fantastic job demonstrating and explaining your message.
So I do my best to eat them all but my family is also fully addicted to tomatoes. Last weekend I had a little summer party and each person left with 2-5 big tomatoes! I have made a few batches of sauce and also have a ton of frozen tomatoes already. I am actually planning on making a little produce donation box for the neighbors well!
That's nice....I like to give away too....to a couple friends that don't garden...and I also vacuum seal and freeze or can....
@@brianmoore4299 I'm an avid fisherman and I always "Catch and Release." I also grow tons of tomatoes but I don't like eating them. I use the "Grow and Throw Away" method when it comes to those nasty tomatoes
@@eviltomthai I'm not sure how to respond to that comment. But it sounds stupid to grow tons of tomatoes to just throw away. Why waste your time and money on something you don't plan to use? At least give them to the local food bank.
That was really informative. I mostly just use stakes. My bed is considered to be ADA compliant. It's like a raised bed; but, on legs instead of on the ground. I'd like to try some of the other trellis options; but, I'm not sure which would work the best. I would still need to reach the top level of tomatoes.
I would highly recommend you look into the "dwarf tomato project" there are just over 100 tomato varieties that have been bred to cap out around 4-5 feet. That means you can use a simple stake or cage without compromise. The tomatoes are fully flavored and full size and produce abundantly!
Florida weave seems really similar to trellising for grapes and cane berries. Now I'm wondering if you can set up a more permanent trellis system like those and use the twine and clips to keep things off the ground and organized. 🤔🤔
You definitely can do something like that with tomatoes!
Thank you!
I love the Florida weave but I think a huge downside is early on in the season you have to bend over pretty hard to complete the string rows and it's bad on the back. Back-friendly trellis methods I'm def gonna pay more attention to in the future.
That is a valid one but as a counter point they already have a solution! You run string through a piece of pipe and tension it with your thumb so that you can wrap all your plants without bending over. You can find examples on UA-cam as it is common practice on farms!
Has Jacques the tomato whisperer covered "greenback" tomatoes before? I'm noticing that the shoulders on my toms are taking longer and longer to ripen.
Florida weave................not for my OCD tendency! Thank you for the multiple choice methods.
Haha I can definitely see that not working for you
W Florida weave do you prune to 2 leaders? It looks like not ? Loooove your videos!!!
I sort of pretend to maintain them at the start but then I just let them go absolutely wild
Great information! Thank you!
Of course!
I don’t like storing the tomato cages, I’m loving the netting this year.
All of the ones I showed in this video come apart in 2 pieces and fold flat ! But I agree, the net is fantastic
I'll admit that I'm a pretty hands off gardener once they're out from under the grow lights and in the ground. I use a bamboo stake and don't prune (so my garden looks a little unruly) but the tomatoes are producing, so I must be doing something right?!
That's all that matters, the garden is what you want it to be!
Does the jute net work for determinates?
Oh yeah it would totally work but it would likely require you to weave them in regularly
How long would the netting last? Do you know what materials would be best to make a net, and how to DIY? I've ended up making makeshift nets that end up looking like spider webs, for things like angled luffa, but I never considered using it for the tomatoes.
I haven't made one myself but you could easily purchase a spool of jute twine and weave a custom one! I've had the same net for 2 years without issue
yall should start another channel called Epic Toms!
Haha, when the tomatoes are raining like they are now you got to give them the spotlight!
The Florida weave failed me epically almost completely destroying 2 tomato plants😢. My preferred trellis is a cattle panel, more expensive but i can grow a 15 ft tom.
Whatever works best for you is the best trellis option!
"A couple tips and tricks here for maintaining your weave" - important info from our garden influencers AND our beauty and hairstyle influencers
😂 amazing connection here, maybe a side gig for me
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Please help! I love tomatoes. It’s the only my reason I am gardening too and these hornworms are eating my tomatoes! I’m so sad. It’s my first year Gardening. I had this massive Cherokee purple slicer, and now my heart is broken because the hornworms are starting to attack my tomatoes. I tried searching for them, but they’re very hard to spot. Do you have any advice on this matter? Do you use BT for this also? I never heard you mention that you spray your tomatoes. Any help that you could give me on this matter would be greatly appreciated!
Get a black light and when it is dark out shine a light on the tomatoes and the hornworms will glow. You can then pick them off.
I don't ever spray them for caterpillars as I find that all the birds in my yard destroy them before I could even try to find them. However, bt would work perfectly for them without damaging much else. If you get a little uv flashlight from Amazon you can use it at night and the hornworms will glow in the dark making them easy pickings!
@@jacquesinthegarden guess how many I caught last night with a black light??? 27!!! That’s right! 27! Can you imaging what they would’ve done to my tomato plants? They love my sun golds. Do you have a gopher problem? Let me know what you guys find helpful with this. I live in Ramona, so the gophers are basically on steroids here 😒
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I need to try some of these. My sungolds are growing all over the place 😂
The sungolds are always super leggy and sprawling
@@jacquesinthegarden I tried hard with pruning and staking last year but got lazy this year. Will definitely get a trellis going next year 😂
I love the stake method but it's far from foolproof 😂
That's for sure, missing a week can lead to chaos haha
Im earlyy
Your welcome to stay!
@jacquesinthegarden your videos helped me grow so much!
FLORIDA WEAVE MASTER RACE
It's just so thick and loaded, I love it haha
I hate the name Florida weave. Makes finding Florida tomato varieties difficult in a search engine.
Haha I can see that being frustrating
Little tip there - if you put “-weave” in your search alongside it, the engine will filter out results for Florida weave, leaving you with just those delicious Florida tomatoes
Leave out the quotes, just put the minus sign and then the word weave. Works for any term you want to filter out
Photoshopping the video thumbnail erodes user trust. 😢 Theres no need to Photoshop in extra ripe tomatoes
😂😂
It worked because i clicked to watch. 😂
Not that deep
Dude it is not that serious, I still trust him, he helps me not kill my tomatoes 😂
It's just tomatoes and it's just an internet video about tomatoes not researching brain surgery😂😂😂 most of the time I don't even see the thumbnail 😂😂😂