Any phish that's 93 or 94 and you'll see them in their absolute peak form. Highly recommend Maze for a sonic journey that has that classic phish 'tension and release' thing happening. And the comparison to Coltrane isn't weird at all. Classically trained musicians (Trey a composer), they drew heavily on many of the jazz greats.
THIS is the reason we all are obsessed with this band, one of the single best jam peaks out there. I've listened to or watched this one hundreds and hundreds of times, and it still gives me goosebumps/makes me cry if I sit down and pay attention. This is, however, the one single time I wish they hadn't segued into something else, as it does end pretty abruptly, given what they went into. I'd have to go look, but I think this is the first you've done that goes what we call "Type 2," where the jam morphs into a different chord progression/rhythm structure altogether, basically becoming a new, improvised song. That transition starts around 11:30 in your video, fully turning at around the 12:00 mark. (Type 1 = jamming over the original song's chord progression, essentially a traditional rock solo) The rabbit hole just got a lot deeper if this thing clicked with you the way it does with us. The "Down with Disease" from 9/6/15 is another great one like this, with a similar runtime. "Tweezer" is a very consistent Type 2 vehicle, though those tend to be 25-30ish minutes long (while I agree with the comment recommending the 8/22/15 Tweezer > Caspian, I'm personally more partial to the 12/30/19 Tweezer; it has one of the coolest, smoothest passages they've ever played, IMO)
Same! I never realized how big Maine was before driving to this show. The Appalachian Mountains ended and turned into potato fields. It was so surreal, as if 100,000 of us drove up to the moon to see Phish.
There's a channel that does a series called "anatomy of a jam." He did one on this gin. Hes very, very thorough, and his videos are well researched. Fishman actually gave him a shout-out. Basically said he's the real deal, and his videos are spot on. Would 100% recommend checking them out on your own or on the channel if you're interested in the music, history, and having it all laid out in front of you. Super interesting videos.
Glad you took my suggestion on the Went Gin! It's really something else, huh? That second half jam was all improv. Magic! The end of the video was them seguing into the next song so you didn't miss anything. One of the bigger high points since they returned in 2009 was the "Tweezer > Prince Caspian" from 8/22/15, played at their festival Magnaball. There's an officially shot video. It's an incredible journey. You have to hear it!
This weekend was the only time I've seen them live. I was disappointed that Fish wasn't wearing his iconic muumuu, but in hindsight, seeing him in pants was a rare privilege. I had a tape that I enjoyed for years, not realizing that I had witnessed the Best Gin Ever. I just thought this was what the band was supposed to sound like. It was actually the following "Uncle Pen" that made a greater impression on me. There's a good video of that number from Germany. If you want to hear Phish play it straight, Mike's down-home bluegrass covers are a good place to start.
The end was abrupt because they were transitioning into the next song (a blue grass number by Bill Monroe called Uncle Pen) as mentioned below.. They do that a lot coming out of jams, sometimes bypassing the end of the given song (although those dropped endings sometimes have a habit of coming back later in the show). They like to keep us guessing.
OMG! I am soo stoked you actually watched the Went Gin! I couldn't click fast enough! I have recommended this so many times and reactors always choose other versions. It's ALWAYS great, but THIS Gin is THE GIN. It is often viewed as a turning or transition point in Phish's musical evolution and their jam style and it happened right in the middle of a song. Prior to this, Bathtub jams always had a particular flavor but this one took on a completely new life of its own. It is a true landmark moment in this band's mind-blowing history. (I was also there, in person, so that was also pretty cool ;)
Favorite Gin, also another good one from around that time I believe, 7/21/97! I heard it the other day! Breaks out into a disco funk breakdown, repeating over and over! I do wish they would have dragged that ending out a bit more on this :D
The went gin is so incredible. Their festivals are always something very, very special. They're actually holding one in august 2024. Im definitely going to be there! If you're digging the band, id totally recommend trying to make it to a show or the fest. Might change your life haha!
This is the Phish video I always show people first because it's easily digestible by the average music listener but still shows what kind of magic can happen. ua-cam.com/video/l2Jg7K6JqUc/v-deo.html
It sounds like you are starting to find the groove with Phish, surrender to the flow as they say. I have heard it live in person a couple of times and in taper recordings many times. It is always a standout then they bust this one out.
Any phish that's 93 or 94 and you'll see them in their absolute peak form. Highly recommend Maze for a sonic journey that has that classic phish 'tension and release' thing happening. And the comparison to Coltrane isn't weird at all. Classically trained musicians (Trey a composer), they drew heavily on many of the jazz greats.
Thanks!
THIS is the reason we all are obsessed with this band, one of the single best jam peaks out there. I've listened to or watched this one hundreds and hundreds of times, and it still gives me goosebumps/makes me cry if I sit down and pay attention. This is, however, the one single time I wish they hadn't segued into something else, as it does end pretty abruptly, given what they went into.
I'd have to go look, but I think this is the first you've done that goes what we call "Type 2," where the jam morphs into a different chord progression/rhythm structure altogether, basically becoming a new, improvised song. That transition starts around 11:30 in your video, fully turning at around the 12:00 mark. (Type 1 = jamming over the original song's chord progression, essentially a traditional rock solo)
The rabbit hole just got a lot deeper if this thing clicked with you the way it does with us. The "Down with Disease" from 9/6/15 is another great one like this, with a similar runtime. "Tweezer" is a very consistent Type 2 vehicle, though those tend to be 25-30ish minutes long (while I agree with the comment recommending the 8/22/15 Tweezer > Caspian, I'm personally more partial to the 12/30/19 Tweezer; it has one of the coolest, smoothest passages they've ever played, IMO)
Awesome! I'm just learning about Type 1 and 2! Pretty impressive!
Yes, I believe that this marks the beginning (literally, the FIRST) of what we might call a Type 2 Phish jam.
I was at the show, the best Bathtub Gin, Went!
Same!
I never realized how big Maine was before driving to this show.
The Appalachian Mountains ended and turned into potato fields. It was so surreal, as if 100,000 of us drove up to the moon to see Phish.
I get those chills every time I pull this back up:)
There's a channel that does a series called "anatomy of a jam." He did one on this gin. Hes very, very thorough, and his videos are well researched. Fishman actually gave him a shout-out. Basically said he's the real deal, and his videos are spot on. Would 100% recommend checking them out on your own or on the channel if you're interested in the music, history, and having it all laid out in front of you. Super interesting videos.
Nice! I'll check it out!
Glad you took my suggestion on the Went Gin! It's really something else, huh? That second half jam was all improv. Magic! The end of the video was them seguing into the next song so you didn't miss anything.
One of the bigger high points since they returned in 2009 was the "Tweezer > Prince Caspian" from 8/22/15, played at their festival Magnaball. There's an officially shot video. It's an incredible journey. You have to hear it!
Nice! I'll put it on the list!
This weekend was the only time I've seen them live. I was disappointed that Fish wasn't wearing his iconic muumuu, but in hindsight, seeing him in pants was a rare privilege.
I had a tape that I enjoyed for years, not realizing that I had witnessed the Best Gin Ever. I just thought this was what the band was supposed to sound like. It was actually the following "Uncle Pen" that made a greater impression on me. There's a good video of that number from Germany. If you want to hear Phish play it straight, Mike's down-home bluegrass covers are a good place to start.
I love this analysis...seeing the other side of your experiences!
There is his went gin tone and then there is everything else.
The end was abrupt because they were transitioning into the next song (a blue grass number by Bill Monroe called Uncle Pen) as mentioned below.. They do that a lot coming out of jams, sometimes bypassing the end of the given song (although those dropped endings sometimes have a habit of coming back later in the show). They like to keep us guessing.
Nice! Like Tweezer and its Reprise!
great point about the names reba/bathtub gin 🤣🤣🤣
OMG! I am soo stoked you actually watched the Went Gin! I couldn't click fast enough!
I have recommended this so many times and reactors always choose other versions.
It's ALWAYS great, but THIS Gin is THE GIN.
It is often viewed as a turning or transition point in Phish's musical evolution and their jam style and it happened right in the middle of a song.
Prior to this, Bathtub jams always had a particular flavor but this one took on a completely new life of its own.
It is a true landmark moment in this band's mind-blowing history.
(I was also there, in person, so that was also pretty cool ;)
Thanks!
Favorite Gin, also another good one from around that time I believe, 7/21/97! I heard it the other day! Breaks out into a disco funk breakdown, repeating over and over! I do wish they would have dragged that ending out a bit more on this :D
Oh hell yeah.
Jon Fishman is the drummer and the band is named after him. Listen to songs like Foam, Limb by Limb, and Vultures and you'll see why.
Thanks! Didn't know the band name was named for him. That cool!
The went gin is so incredible. Their festivals are always something very, very special. They're actually holding one in august 2024. Im definitely going to be there! If you're digging the band, id totally recommend trying to make it to a show or the fest. Might change your life haha!
Reba won’t making no gin in that bath tub 😂😂😂
John Fishman is a very skilled drummer. It may look easy because he makes it look easy. Even for a skilled drummer it is hard.
Fishman was not wearing the moo moo due to the cold...its was a chilly night
The next song was a bluegrass tune called Uncle Pen. It was a jam that didn't go back to the ending of the song. They do that a lot.
Yeah. 4/4. You could play that.
Went Gin is definitely one of phish-lore fame. Good choice.
I don’t have a favorite version but they have played it for so many years I think the newer versions are more interesting than this one
This is the Phish video I always show people first because it's easily digestible by the average music listener but still shows what kind of magic can happen. ua-cam.com/video/l2Jg7K6JqUc/v-deo.html
Thank you!
It sounds like you are starting to find the groove with Phish, surrender to the flow as they say. I have heard it live in person a couple of times and in taper recordings many times. It is always a standout then they bust this one out.
Nice seeing you surrender to the phlow! Don’t ever bring up lyrics, just let it happen