a similar case happened near where my nan lives and only when police had clearly finished doing what they were doing they gave it a quick hose down so it wouldn’t attract flies but even then it wasn’t a full clean
*It was not the same area. *Neighbours kept their outsides a lot cleaner back then. *They were trying to help, not knowing they were doing the opposite!!
Jon Benet Ramsey anyone? They had some people come who stupidly decided to clean up the scene, and between the evidence lost there and the tampering of her body by her dad, it was probably enough to blow the case
if i were in this police force and people kept cleaning these crime scenes down id do an appeal saying not to clean up any old women’s “falls” before they’d been investigated
You would think the police would have had a press conference telling the public not to hose down any area where an elderly person has fallen....just in case I mean Jesus
“Hey I just found a women outside laying face down with a knife in her back and a banana peel next to her.” “Ok she obviously slipped and fell on the knife🙄, clean it up.”
Violence against children, the elderly or animals could only be perpetrated by a monster. To go after the defenseless is the mark of a weak, pathetic coward.
Well said! I wish people who commit such crimes not life in prison or even the death penalty but good old medieval torture in the middle of the town square!
I’m a domestic violence advocate and I always say to my ladies, “Many people have experienced traumatic childhoods, but not everyone decides to abuse people because of it.” Abusing others because of your trauma is a choice!!
@@janetpendlebury6808 but it was on the news though. after that it was even more cases, so it’s weird that none of those people ever thought of maybe leaving the blood.
@@jennifer_5152 They were the only 3 to be cleaned up, and after 6 months people had forgotten about the first murder of an old lady. The third was only one day after the 2nd so many people had probably not even read about it or seen it on tv. They were all in in different suburbs, and different situations where the public would be walking through the blood affected area's. if someone has an accident and leaves blood on the pavement or in the entrance way of a block of flats, it will be cleaned up, the heat and blood will attract flies in the millions here in Australia.
I feel like even with him being impotent these we’re sexually motivated as well he enjoyed humiliating them in that way and got some kind of gratification
There have been cases where impotent men are the ones committing sexually related crimes it gives them back control and makes them feel adequate since they’re impotent they crave that power
Evil does NOT mean insane. You don't have to be crazy to do these types of things. Evil is real and it's a choice imo. I hope the families of the victims heal and that the victims ms rest in peace. Thank you for your hard work Bella.
I'm guessing since it was pools of blood and some of these crimes occured in an apartment or nursing homes they thought it was extremely gore and would traumatize children or other elderly people or even anyone. But yeah definitely very frustrating
They did not know it was a crime scene, and had probably cleaned up blood before, it was an area with a large proportion of elderly people living there.
I just saw another comment mention flies, so the neighbours, thinking it was an accident, washed it as soon as they could before a load of flies came, which I imagine probably come quickly in australia with the heat
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How many people have to die before they tell the public to NOT clean up a crime scene. They’ve already named the guy so people have had to had some kind of idea.
They did not know it was a crime scene when the first women was murdered, and then there was a 6 month gap before the next two, which happened within 24 hours of each other. After that no more were cleaned up, and they did not know who it was until the following year, no one had any idea of his name.
I'm American and have to say "bob's your uncle" is one of the most hilarious and wonderful expressions haha. It's so great! Also, i do not understand why these people just decided it was their job to clean a scene of a crime or an accident? Like you're not helping!
i understand thinking it’s an accident but you would think after the third time the police would make an announcement telling folk not to clean up blood from any trips or falls they see
I'm Canadian and I've never heard the expression "Bob's your uncle" Befofe either. I thought it was so cute and weird, imma start using it I think. I replayed replayed part 3 times cuzz I wasn't sure I'd heard it quiet right lol.
@@Bibi-zv5ob I honestly cant remember as I watched this a month ago but this saying was also on something recently. When I remember I will be sure to let you know 🤓👍
I’m sorry, it always sucks when it goes on longer than expected. Not to freak you out and maybe you’ve already done this, but I would suggest talking to an OBGYN just to be sure everything is okay. If you’re comfortable I would write down your symptoms and/or bring a friend to help advocate for you if you’re like me and worried about doctors not taking you seriously. My mom usually tells me to exaggerate and be graphic with these kinds of things when describing them since with any gynecology-related things doctors tend to downplay them unless you’re adamant. Good luck, I hope you feel better and I hope everything is fine❤️
@@bigasspockets I actually do this, problem is military doctors are trash and I’ve had three doctors and haven’t actually met any of them. After getting blood work and not hearing back for a month I found out that my doctor was no longer there and they weren’t going to say anything🤦♀️
@@kayti6551 ugh fuck that sounds extremely frustrating I’m very sorry. Wishing you the best of luck and never stop advocating for yourself❤️ I know it’s hard. Are you allowed to go to non-military doctors? Or is that not allowed
i cant even bare to look at elderly people eating alone as it makes me sad. the fact he killed them and didn’t even feel anything absolutely baffles me.
Bella’s mystery mondays are literally the only thing that gets me to sleep, I have the worst sleep anxiety but as soon as I put one of these on I’m out like a light, then I gotta come back the next day to watch it lol
when nonnie (my grandma) fell and hit her head and went to hospital for major surgery, her neighbors were super kind and went over and cleaned up her blood from the floor too she recovered but it's happened 2-3 times now due to various health issues (low sodium and cancer being the main ones) it's an incredibly caring thing to do, so family doesn't have to clean it, especially if something happens while in the hospital and then grieving family comes home and there's a huge blood stain to clean up sad the good intentions caused problems for this case but it's definitely a thing people do out of kindness for older people
@@janetpendlebury6808 I understand that, but who "just falls" and have their bag and shoes neatly placed beside them lol... also falling per say can't mostly result in a 'pool of blood', unless they fall from a great height, there sure can be some blood but not running out...but yes, I can see why people did that to a degree.
@@itstalhax3649 We really have no idea how much blood was there, the police did not see it, just the people who found her and rang the ambulance, and they probably did not register the bag and shoes straight away, they would have been concerned with their elderly neighbour, who they probably knew, they would have sat with her until the ambulance arrived, and then the shoes and bag would have gone in the ambulance with her. The next victim was not until 6 months later in a different suburb, so they would not have immediately thought of the murder that had happened way back then.
3:09 - “No evidence of sexual assault”!!? this is ridiculous. it is frustrating that law enforcement and media continue to make these statements surrounding cases. What constitutes “sexual assault”? Just because there’s no evidence of a violent violation or penetration does not mean there was no assault. Especially in this case, wherein *her panties had been removed* - this alone iS SEXUAL ASSAULT.
@@itsabirkin3080 i am talking in general tho. Sexual Assault May happen, yet law enforcement will say, _no evidence_ because why? In drawing conclusions, like underwear being removed, it probably _is_ sexual assault. Sexual assault is not always evident, and does not need ripped up clothing or injury to prove that it happened.
You have to think about the fact that these were outside apartments and nursing homes, so naturally they are going to clean up blood if they think it’s an accident. Plus, in Australia we have flies everywhere, you do NOT want pools of blood just lying around….
Maggie is the real MVP for being the only smart one who didn’t wash down the scene. Like come on someone has pantry hose around their neck and they thought they fell. Good lord. This case is heartbreaking.
Do you happen to see where it shows the number 9? Can you point it out for me please?:) I believe I see the word Ten actually written out underneath the second large pine tree🌲.. but not 9.. Hmmm..🤔
Please do a mystery Monday on the golden state killer!!! I lived about 3 blocks away from him and I remember the day he was arrested. It was chaos in our neighborhood 🥴
@@Swiss_Girl didn’t know him personally, no, but I hung out at a friends house that lived on the street behind him multiple times a week so it’s likely I’ve run into him more than once 🥴 Edit: I used to trick-or-treat in that neighborhood and my friends and I have 100% have gone to his doorstep
I think the 9 in the drawing meant when he was going to take his own life i mean 9th of September meaning 9/9 and he gave him that drawing right before he died!
I have a question, in some parts of the video you say things like “the old woman was sitting outside, a man joined her and they had a conversation before she began to feel uncomfortable, got up, and then was attacked” If there were no eye witnesses, how do you know the events leading up to the murder? Or when he helped with groceries before going on to nursed someone else, how do we know that it was the same person/what happened leading up to it? Was this info discovered after the case was solved? Just a bit confused how there is so much detail surrounding the incidents (he grabbed her hair from behind) when no one saw anything? How do we know what happened? Anywho, LOVE Your videos. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into them. You are my favorite true crime UA-camr!
I actually watched an episode of Forensic Investigators: Australia's True Crimes about this case last week and I was frustrated when every murder happened, neighbours washed all the blood out wiping evidence. You should cover The Melbourne Turkish consulate bombing case Bella.
I think the drawing is saying there are 9 other victims in that area. Maybe buried there. There’s definitely a correlation between the specific place he drew and the number
@@holliethomson8219 she stated in the video that he drew a pic of that location with the number 9 in it and then asked what we thought it meant. Watch the very end of the video.
@@holliethomson8219 at the end of the video she shows a picture the murder drew and gave to the detective and mentions there’s a number 9 in the drawing
@@marianepheli8873 She said that one of the ladies hose was so tight around her neck that it completely embedded into her skin. It just seems that their necks would have been obvious, but hard to know...very sad.
I don’t understand how people could have thought they had just fallen over if their shoes, walking stick, pantyhose and/or handbag were neatly laying beside them….
It's jarring how, a person falls yet their shoes and stick is placed beside them neatly. SMH. That's like expecting my hair not to get wet In the shower although I'm not wearing a showercap
I met Mike Hagan (14:13) at a forensics course I did and we did a case study on this, we got shown the crime scene and autopsy photos while Mike explained the police investigation of this case. It was incredibly interesting and he was so so kind.
Wow! That 84 year old Margaret!!! That is The Best scetch and description of a suspect which has ever been made!!! She had a good look at him alright! And she did remember it and repeat it to the police so clearly. She was an amazing!!!
The forensics team either needed to get there WAY quicker, or the neighbors are ignorant. I’d never clean up a crime scene until it was all over and done with even if I thought it was a simple fall. Weird
They did not know it was a crime scene when they cleaned up, the victims had gone to hospital and by the time the police got there it was too late. The neighbours just thought they had falls, not uncommon in the elderly, especially at a nursing home.
awesome video!! Im from Aus too and love your mystery Mondays and ur dog, I have a border collie too :) I just want to suggest Elisabeth Fritzl's case as she was held captive for 24 years by her father and I found the case very interesting and you always deliver the story and all of the details so well x
You should cover the case of José Antonio Rodríguez Vega aka "El Mataviejas" (the granny killer). He was a Spanish serial killer that also raped and killed old ladies. He was attractive but a sicko, like a Spanish Ted Bundy. He was killed in prison by another inmate and I still remember how people were applauding and cheering that other inmate when he was being transported to the court shouting happily "I killed El Mataviejas!!!!". The whole thing was horrific.
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These neighbors are hyper vigilant about cleanliness. Damn.
LMFAOO right?!
naw they were trying to shelter other people from having to see the blood
I think his ninth victim is at this site.
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Lool so annoying! 😩😂🤦🏽♀️
I don’t think I have ever heard of a crime scene being continually washed down by neighbours in a case before. I couldn’t believe it!
a similar case happened near where my nan lives and only when police had clearly finished doing what they were doing they gave it a quick hose down so it wouldn’t attract flies but even then it wasn’t a full clean
*It was not the same area.
*Neighbours kept their outsides a lot cleaner back then.
*They were trying to help, not knowing they were doing the opposite!!
@@oliviajade3655
They needed these Aussies to do it! Lol
Take a shot every time the well-intentioned neighbors clean the crime scene.
No thanks I would not like to die of alcohol poisoning
I think I’d die of an alcohol overdose at that point
Jon Benet Ramsey anyone? They had some people come who stupidly decided to clean up the scene, and between the evidence lost there and the tampering of her body by her dad, it was probably enough to blow the case
I would probably die of alcohol poisoning and no one would know cos the neighbourhood cleaning squads would come and destroy the scene lol
I'm drunk...lol
I swear if you say they cleaned the crime scene ONE MORE TIME
hahahahahah tell me about it 😭
Right!!! Uuugh
if i were in this police force and people kept cleaning these crime scenes down id do an appeal saying not to clean up any old women’s “falls” before they’d been investigated
@@mil7498 yes, exactly!!
Oh my god SAME I was losing my mind every time she said that 😂
You would think the police would have had a press conference telling the public not to hose down any area where an elderly person has fallen....just in case I mean Jesus
Tbh feels like this actually happen. 😂 I wouldn’t be surprised at this point.
Exactly
Right?? 🤦🏽♀️
My thoughts exactly!!
I heard Bella say there was a tremendous amount of publicity about the murders. Yes, you truly should call upon Jesus. Damn Buddha! Holy Krishna!
“Hey I just found a women outside laying face down with a knife in her back and a banana peel next to her.”
“Ok she obviously slipped and fell on the knife🙄, clean it up.”
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Seriously?! We don't live in Mario Kart world. Banana peels don't actually make you slip and Fall! Geez people..
@@hardyquinn9442 I’ve slipped on a banana peel before, it’s no joke 😭
@@hardyquinn9442 I think what the OP is saying is being posted in… sarcasm?!
@@minihypez2415 my
Violence against children, the elderly or animals could only be perpetrated by a monster. To go after the defenseless is the mark of a weak, pathetic coward.
Well said! I wish people who commit such crimes not life in prison or even the death penalty but good old medieval torture in the middle of the town square!
true
take a shot everytime she says “thinking she’d fallen, they washed down the crime scene”
I just died of alcohol poisoning
Well meaning neighbors be like: 😎🧼🧺🧽🪣🧹🧚♀️ ✨
Horrible case but this comment has me 😂
I swear even a baby knows not to interact with a crime scene
@@abbyyy22
But at the time, they didn't know they were crime scenes!!!
I’m a domestic violence advocate and I always say to my ladies, “Many people have experienced traumatic childhoods, but not everyone decides to abuse people because of it.” Abusing others because of your trauma is a choice!!
AMEN!!!
This actually made me cry, I have such a soft spot for the elderly, how could someone do that 😢😢
The police should've put out a PSA: Hey if a little old lady is found in a pool of her own blood maybe DON'T WASH THE CRIME SCENE.
"Sister Davis though, absolute legend" - I love when Bella adds her own commentary lmao. We are the same person.
God this is just so sad. These poor, vulnerable women 😭
After the second “fall” the neighbors should’ve heard about what’s been going on and maybe you know … NOT washed the crime scene . Just a thought
right! so frustrating 😭
Very!!!
The second 'fall' was 6 months after the first, and in a different suburb.
@@janetpendlebury6808 but it was on the news though. after that it was even more cases, so it’s weird that none of those people ever thought of maybe leaving the blood.
@@jennifer_5152 They were the only 3 to be cleaned up, and after 6 months people had forgotten about the first murder of an old lady. The third was only one day after the 2nd so many people had probably not even read about it or seen it on tv. They were all in in different suburbs, and different situations where the public would be walking through the blood affected area's. if someone has an accident and leaves blood on the pavement or in the entrance way of a block of flats, it will be cleaned up, the heat and blood will attract flies in the millions here in Australia.
"Top bloke" is officially one of my favourite things ive heard today
Assuming you aren’t from Aus then ? 😂
@@maddy7409 or the England 😂😂
mine is “dude, lock your back door” 😭😂
Very English or oz saying 😂
@@maddy7409 I’m not but I adore y’all’s accents! 😂
“Going around killing little old ladies in his spare time, top bloke.” Does any true crime loving Aussie NOT say this? 🤣 The sarcasm is Class A Gold.
@SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil she is Australian hahah
@SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil definitely Aussie hahaha
@SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil lol she's Australian.
@SeeNoEvilHearNoEvil as a brit i can confirm bella is deffo aussie 😎
@@riansarchive516 just proves that Americans can't tell the difference between British and Australian accents.
*obvious crime scene*
nobody ever: let’s clean it up
everyone in this town: definitely a fall, let’s get cleaning
I feel like even with him being impotent these we’re sexually motivated as well he enjoyed humiliating them in that way and got some kind of gratification
Not to mention the assaults where he fondled the women's breasts and butts. I agree with you for sure.
Absolutely. And strangulation is an intimate and sexual way go kill. It was a stand in for him being able to sexually assault
There have been cases where impotent men are the ones committing sexually related crimes it gives them back control and makes them feel adequate since they’re impotent they crave that power
I knew that he was impotent from the way that she was describing him and his mo! (criminal minds really taught me some stuff lol) 🤷🏽♀️😂
I agree! I do believe that if he wouldn't have been impotent he would've raped those women :(
Evil does NOT mean insane. You don't have to be crazy to do these types of things. Evil is real and it's a choice imo. I hope the families of the victims heal and that the victims ms rest in peace. Thank you for your hard work Bella.
The lighting in this video is immaculate. really so pretty
I started to get SO annoyed every time she said that the neighbors hosed down the crime scenes 😂😭
who the hell are these people cleaning up crime scenes? Is this an australia thing? I cannot imagine my neighbors wanting to do that wtf
I'm guessing since it was pools of blood and some of these crimes occured in an apartment or nursing homes they thought it was extremely gore and would traumatize children or other elderly people or even anyone. But yeah definitely very frustrating
They did not know it was a crime scene, and had probably cleaned up blood before, it was an area with a large proportion of elderly people living there.
I just saw another comment mention flies, so the neighbours, thinking it was an accident, washed it as soon as they could before a load of flies came, which I imagine probably come quickly in australia with the heat
@@lisahenry20 ohhh that does make more sense. still so weird that it happened so many times in this case!
i’m thinking the same thing
“And because Maggie wasn’t a complete freaking moron, police finally had some physical evidence.”
This case breaks my heart. I used to be a care nurse working with the elderly, and they are some of the sweetest people
can y'all imagine how traumatizing it must be to find an old lady in a pool of blood? this case is so gruesome
“I’ll be gone in the dark” is a very very good read. The audio book is even better IMO.
“Bob’s your uncle” Hahaha. I had never heard that.
As serious as these stories are, you always make me smile
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How many people have to die before they tell the public to NOT clean up a crime scene. They’ve already named the guy so people have had to had some kind of idea.
They did not know it was a crime scene when the first women was murdered, and then there was a 6 month gap before the next two, which happened within 24 hours of each other. After that no more were cleaned up, and they did not know who it was until the following year, no one had any idea of his name.
I'm American and have to say "bob's your uncle" is one of the most hilarious and wonderful expressions haha. It's so great! Also, i do not understand why these people just decided it was their job to clean a scene of a crime or an accident? Like you're not helping!
i understand thinking it’s an accident but you would think after the third time the police would make an announcement telling folk not to clean up blood from any trips or falls they see
I'm Canadian and I've never heard the expression "Bob's your uncle" Befofe either. I thought it was so cute and weird, imma start using it I think. I replayed replayed part 3 times cuzz I wasn't sure I'd heard it quiet right lol.
I'm from England and "Bob's your Uncle" was often accompanied by"..and Fanny's your Aunt"! 😂
@@kerryhall6665 that is hilarious....I've never heard of that....when was this sed in the video?
@@Bibi-zv5ob I honestly cant remember as I watched this a month ago but this saying was also on something recently. When I remember I will be sure to let you know 🤓👍
Imagine going through 80 years of life struggles, keeping yourself safe and healthy for that long just to be murdered by some sicko. Poor grannies :(
People who hurt children and the elderly have a special place in hell...
Animals too
The lighting is the video is so beautiful on you, Bella!!!
never a bad day when she posts😌
The irony is when she does post, it’s because it’s been a really bad day for someone else and their loved ones.
Automatic “thumbs up” from me before I ever watch the video 😆
For us lmaooo not for anyone involved
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omg i’m so glad u posted i was literally just being ✨depressed✨
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There are nosy neighbours and there are nice neighbours ... And then there’s the neighbours that hose the crime scene.
“She fell with pantyhose embedded around her neck, accidents happen, let’s wash all this blood away.”
Irony 🤔
Definitely needed this distraction like so many of you! I’ve been on my lady time for over a month and today’s been especially hard!🥺
Hope you feel better 💗
I’m sorry, it always sucks when it goes on longer than expected. Not to freak you out and maybe you’ve already done this, but I would suggest talking to an OBGYN just to be sure everything is okay. If you’re comfortable I would write down your symptoms and/or bring a friend to help advocate for you if you’re like me and worried about doctors not taking you seriously. My mom usually tells me to exaggerate and be graphic with these kinds of things when describing them since with any gynecology-related things doctors tend to downplay them unless you’re adamant. Good luck, I hope you feel better and I hope everything is fine❤️
@@bigasspockets I actually do this, problem is military doctors are trash and I’ve had three doctors and haven’t actually met any of them. After getting blood work and not hearing back for a month I found out that my doctor was no longer there and they weren’t going to say anything🤦♀️
@@kayti6551 ugh fuck that sounds extremely frustrating I’m very sorry. Wishing you the best of luck and never stop advocating for yourself❤️ I know it’s hard. Are you allowed to go to non-military doctors? Or is that not allowed
i cant even bare to look at elderly people eating alone as it makes me sad. the fact he killed them and didn’t even feel anything absolutely baffles me.
16:05 omg i lost it
“dude, lock your back door” 😭😭😂
Bella’s mystery mondays are literally the only thing that gets me to sleep, I have the worst sleep anxiety but as soon as I put one of these on I’m out like a light, then I gotta come back the next day to watch it lol
Imagine if he just dyes his hair
The struggles would be like almost endless
When you said they washed down a crime scene for the 4th time I exclaimed out loud "REALLY?"
i don’t understand why people literally didn’t see a trend with the murders and felt the need to clean it up themselves.
15:24 broke my heart seeing that elderly woman being consoled by the officer... :(
when nonnie (my grandma) fell and hit her head and went to hospital for major surgery, her neighbors were super kind and went over and cleaned up her blood from the floor too
she recovered but it's happened 2-3 times now due to various health issues (low sodium and cancer being the main ones)
it's an incredibly caring thing to do, so family doesn't have to clean it, especially if something happens while in the hospital and then grieving family comes home and there's a huge blood stain to clean up
sad the good intentions caused problems for this case but it's definitely a thing people do out of kindness for older people
People need to stop washing up crime scenes, like, chill.
They did not know it was a crime scene when they washed the blood away, they just thought they were sparing other elderly folk from seeing it.
@@janetpendlebury6808 I understand that, but who "just falls" and have their bag and shoes neatly placed beside them lol... also falling per say can't mostly result in a 'pool of blood', unless they fall from a great height, there sure can be some blood but not running out...but yes, I can see why people did that to a degree.
@@itstalhax3649 We really have no idea how much blood was there, the police did not see it, just the people who found her and rang the ambulance, and they probably did not register the bag and shoes straight away, they would have been concerned with their elderly neighbour, who they probably knew, they would have sat with her until the ambulance arrived, and then the shoes and bag would have gone in the ambulance with her. The next victim was not until 6 months later in a different suburb, so they would not have immediately thought of the murder that had happened way back then.
The intro with the obvious sarcasm killed me 😂 definitely top notch bloke
3:09 - “No evidence of sexual assault”!!? this is ridiculous. it is frustrating that law enforcement and media continue to make these statements surrounding cases. What constitutes “sexual assault”? Just because there’s no evidence of a violent violation or penetration does not mean there was no assault. Especially in this case, wherein *her panties had been removed* - this alone iS SEXUAL ASSAULT.
i mean understand what ur saying but i think you know what she meant by that lol
@@itsabirkin3080 i am talking in general tho. Sexual Assault May happen, yet law enforcement will say, _no evidence_ because why? In drawing conclusions, like underwear being removed, it probably _is_ sexual assault. Sexual assault is not always evident, and does not need ripped up clothing or injury to prove that it happened.
@@GetSicRiCH Agreed
So no one in the entire of Australia watches the news ? 😂 how can every crime scene get cleaned by neighbors *before* police arrives
Most helpful members of the public I've ever heard of, dang
No way these neighbors thought they just fell over. Someone was helping to cover up.
There was a 6 month gap between the murders, in different suburbs with different neighbours.
You have to think about the fact that these were outside apartments and nursing homes, so naturally they are going to clean up blood if they think it’s an accident. Plus, in Australia we have flies everywhere, you do NOT want pools of blood just lying around….
I am getting so angry at these crime scenes being cleaned by neighbors!! I get they’re trying to be helpful but come on now!!!!
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Maggie is the real MVP for being the only smart one who didn’t wash down the scene. Like come on someone has pantry hose around their neck and they thought they fell. Good lord. This case is heartbreaking.
Who falls, dies from head trauma and lays out their shoes and purse neatly beside them???!!!
The fact that he took his life on “09/09” (9th September) can be the significance of the 9. Just a theory.
Do you happen to see where it shows the number 9? Can you point it out for me please?:) I believe I see the word Ten actually written out underneath the second large pine tree🌲.. but not 9.. Hmmm..🤔
@@PiXie232 i think, 2nd pine tree from the left, start looking for a 9 from the above of this tree, on the third leafy part, the figure 9 is there
@@metta4168 thanks☺️ I’ll see if I can find it now lol
Please do a mystery Monday on the golden state killer!!! I lived about 3 blocks away from him and I remember the day he was arrested. It was chaos in our neighborhood 🥴
It makes me so sad that Michelle McNamara didn't get to see him arrested.
wow so crazy!! so you knew who he was?
@@Swiss_Girl didn’t know him personally, no, but I hung out at a friends house that lived on the street behind him multiple times a week so it’s likely I’ve run into him more than once 🥴
Edit: I used to trick-or-treat in that neighborhood and my friends and I have 100% have gone to his doorstep
@@everettforest8229 omg thats so scary
I’m glad that his attempt in suicide didn’t work out for him. Now he gets to be punished for what he’s done
Damnit I should’ve waited till the end 😐 I hate murders that take that way out because they don’t want to do time for their horrendous crimes.
bella! you should make these as a podcast on Spotify too
I think the 9 in the drawing meant when he was going to take his own life i mean 9th of September meaning 9/9 and he gave him that drawing right before he died!
Makes sense! Also on an unrelated note, your pfp is so adorable!
@@StrawberryMatchaTea aw thank you angel!
I have a question, in some parts of the video you say things like “the old woman was sitting outside, a man joined her and they had a conversation before she began to feel uncomfortable, got up, and then was attacked”
If there were no eye witnesses, how do you know the events leading up to the murder? Or when he helped with groceries before going on to nursed someone else, how do we know that it was the same person/what happened leading up to it? Was this info discovered after the case was solved? Just a bit confused how there is so much detail surrounding the incidents (he grabbed her hair from behind) when no one saw anything? How do we know what happened?
Anywho, LOVE Your videos. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into them. You are my favorite true crime UA-camr!
I actually watched an episode of Forensic Investigators: Australia's True Crimes about this case last week and I was frustrated when every murder happened, neighbours washed all the blood out wiping evidence.
You should cover The Melbourne Turkish consulate bombing case Bella.
How evil does someone have to be to do this to elderly women
Another great episode Bella. Thank you for all you do for us crime buffs out there. So sorry for the victims in this heinous crime. Take care Bella.
I remember my nursing teacher back in the day worked with his wife at that nursing home. It's actually how I first heard about this case.
Amazing way to start my Monday😭❤️
An amazing way to end my Sunday🤣
I think the drawing is saying there are 9 other victims in that area. Maybe buried there. There’s definitely a correlation between the specific place he drew and the number
Where is the 9 I the picture?
I don't see it
@@holliethomson8219 she stated in the video that he drew a pic of that location with the number 9 in it and then asked what we thought it meant. Watch the very end of the video.
@@kristinabrady6569 don’t see the 9 or the correlation?
@@holliethomson8219 at the end of the video she shows a picture the murder drew and gave to the detective and mentions there’s a number 9 in the drawing
A Mystery Monday to start my morning! It’s gonna be a good day 😍🙌🏼
How could the 'well meaning' people who washed down the crime scenes miss the fact that their pantyhose was around their necks??
After he killed them he put them next to their body 😕
@@marianepheli8873 how would she have taken them off if she'd fallen over?
@@muls9571 oh yeah that was what should have tipped them off. I was mainly commenting on the pantyhose around the neck stuff
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She said that one of the ladies hose was so tight around her neck that it completely embedded into her skin. It just seems that their necks would have been obvious, but hard to know...very sad.
I don’t understand how people could have thought they had just fallen over if their shoes, walking stick, pantyhose and/or handbag were neatly laying beside them….
why am I so obsessed with her videos , I've been waiting for her to post 💕
I have a book recommendation, "The Rabbits" by Sophie Overett. It's all set in Brisbane, beautifully written, loved it.
could you do the courtney palmer case? it isn’t an unsolved case, but it’s actually so sad. he basically got murdered for something he didn’t even do.
This has been the absolute worst month of my life I was literally just waiting for this vid to cheer me up a bit
same
@@alexrider2481 kkooo
Why?🇬🇧
@@ktcooki276 my parents have threatened to cut me off and take away uni so I have to find a way to leave the country
@@palomiabgomez4004 i hope everything will be ok,this is so sad,virtual hugs from Greece 💙
aw i thought the killer was gonna be the granny that would have been so much better lol
Lol watch lights out podcast.. The recent case is literally THAT a killer old woman.
It's jarring how, a person falls yet their shoes and stick is placed beside them neatly. SMH. That's like expecting my hair not to get wet In the shower although I'm not wearing a showercap
Yay! Im so happy u finally posted. We are bored out of our mind here in Sydney
Ugh yes! I needed this so much after a long and exhausting day of traveling home 😵💫
I met Mike Hagan (14:13) at a forensics course I did and we did a case study on this, we got shown the crime scene and autopsy photos while Mike explained the police investigation of this case. It was incredibly interesting and he was so so kind.
So glad to hear a shout out to Agatha Christie's And Then There Where None.
Wow! That 84 year old Margaret!!! That is The Best scetch and description of a suspect which has ever been made!!! She had a good look at him alright! And she did remember it and repeat it to the police so clearly. She was an amazing!!!
The forensics team either needed to get there WAY quicker, or the neighbors are ignorant. I’d never clean up a crime scene until it was all over and done with even if I thought it was a simple fall. Weird
They did not know it was a crime scene when they cleaned up, the victims had gone to hospital and by the time the police got there it was too late. The neighbours just thought they had falls, not uncommon in the elderly, especially at a nursing home.
They all had beautiful old fashioned names… those poor old ladies. Gwendoline, Winifreda, Doris, Olive, Muriel, Margaret, Essie.
“Top bloke” hahah I love you girl my fellow Aussie xx
17:40 YESSSSSS YESSSSSS MAGGIE IS THE TRUE GOOD CITIZEN...FINALLY DAMN
Maggie the legend of a neighbour!! 👏🏼
Loven these NSW cases, crazy how close to home these are!
awesome video!! Im from Aus too and love your mystery Mondays and ur dog, I have a border collie too :) I just want to suggest Elisabeth Fritzl's case as she was held captive for 24 years by her father and I found the case very interesting and you always deliver the story and all of the details so well x
opened the app and saw you posted 58 seconds ago!! UA-cam knew just what i needed
I’ve been waiting and looking forward to a Bella video and then here you are! I’m sure this video will be great, you never disappoint! ❤️
Can’t get enough of your videos! Love from Scotland x
omg this is the earliest i’ve ever been! i’m definitely counting this as an early birthday gift 💁♀️ (i turn 17 on the 20th)
Have a wonderful birthday 🎂🎉
@@tanyachristensen5330 thank you so much!
Happy early birthday!! 💖
happy birthday!!!! 💓
You should cover the case of José Antonio Rodríguez Vega aka "El Mataviejas" (the granny killer). He was a Spanish serial killer that also raped and killed old ladies. He was attractive but a sicko, like a Spanish Ted Bundy. He was killed in prison by another inmate and I still remember how people were applauding and cheering that other inmate when he was being transported to the court shouting happily "I killed El Mataviejas!!!!". The whole thing was horrific.
Loved the natural lighting ✨✨
I love getting on and the first thing I see is you posted a new true crime story!!
I'll be gone in the dark it's such a good book!! I definitely recommend it
Yay! Thank you for uploading! I've been coughing my lungs out all day and I'm just glad to chill and watch a Bella video😊
The amount of times I said, “OMG?!! What is wrong with people.” During this video. My heart just breaks for the victims and their families.
I’ll Be Gone In The Dark is creepy AF but so so good!