Can we just talk about the teacher that stayed by Anns side? How traumatic that must be holding another fellow teacher in her last moments...it was so sweet and just amazing of her to make Anns last moments comfortable and just letting her know how much of an impact she made in her students and the people around her...I started crying in that part
That made me tear up too. What a special soul (both of them). So tragic and in my opinion something could have been done prior of anyone actually shared their concerns (I don’t know how it could have been brushed off esp when he started showing his knife in class after expressing his hate for her for so long). If only someone had stood up
It absolutely could have been prevented. The kids who saw the knives at school should have said something. Saying something about killing a hated teacher is one thing but when the would be murderer shows up with knives in the class of the said teacher...... I mean come on.
Well too be fair he showed them the knives just seconds before he went to kill her I would assume the kids were probably too scared to yell for help in case he would turn the knife on them It’s such a fucked up case, true fucking evil.
I mean yeah it’s easy to say that in hindsight from the comfort of your home, but we don’t know what it’s like to see a classmate pull a knife out and start being violent
i'm not one to snitch but after parkland (which was really close to my highschool) it scared the shit out of me and after that let me see someone showing off a knife that was sketchy im snitching im not about to give that person a chance to do anything
Exactly! Those kids should have reported that Will was threatening the teachers and had bought knives to school. What a POS he is. No excuse for his behaviour at all.
@@lauriejohnstone8217 why do people keep commenting about reporting the knife that was brought to school and how the other students should have said something? He showed them the knife just minutes before. They didn't have time to report it. I'm sure they had in mind to tell someone as soon as it was SAFE for them to speak. Considering all the school murders, you try being a teenager that gets up as soon as you see a knife to report it. Watch how fast YOU end up dead. People like you need some common sense and ask "what was going through their minds when they saw the knife?" I'm sure many of them thought "I want to report him for bringing a knife because he's obviously serious about this but if I get up right now and walk away or start screaming then he'll most likely kill me for trying to stop him. As soon as I'm away from him and safe then I'll speak up". Easy to pass judgement as an adult safe in your house and not a teen in a classroom next to a guy with a knife that might kill me if I get up right now to report it.
I agree. Around this time, I was in high school and had a guy in my year like this. We were ALL on high alert, from as soon as we realised he was a little off until we finished high school. You can't report someone for just "being a bit weird," but you can keep an eye on them and report any threats as soon as possible. The guy in my school sharpened his fingernails into little points to scratch people, and said all sorts of weird incel type things, but nothing that could ever get him prosecuted (he went through with scratching someone with his freaky little nails and got disciplined by the school but that was it). Still, from 14-18 years old we were all on high alert, across all friend groups, 'cliques' etc. Even my high school bully was like yeah we need to watch out for that guy. Why so many people said they thought it was a joke when he was actively making threats about this woman is insane to me. Disliking your teacher is one thing, actively telling people you want to kill her is TOTALLY different.
I think Will's dad is delusional. It's readily apparent that Will was fully conscious of what he was doing before and after the murder. Will is a psychopath and should never be let out.
Agreed. Whether or not they ever thought he would actually go through with it is beside the point. They knew there were significant problems and you can’t convince me otherwise. For starters, I guarantee that he started acting out when he was diagnosed with T1. That’s extremely common in kids and it can cause some very uncharacteristic behaviour. But there are so many other ways I believe he’s either delusional or sugarcoating it.
The parents are always in Denial. Jeffrey Dahmers was the same. The common denominator with these serial killers are enabling parents, crappt childhood, etc.
And this young creep is very obviously selectively manipulating those he thinks could help him get out, like his parents, but shows his real face in front of those who he can't profit from, like the prison guards.
As a language teacher for the same age range, this case hits particularly close to home. Most of my students are great, but the chance that one will turn on you is never zero. And it’s terrifying. I hate that being a teacher has become a job where you have to worry for your safety.
Sad how Will’s father is enabling him to have a victim mindset, trying to paint Will in a better light. WILL IS NOT THE VICTIM. He wanted that life, he got it. He is not remorseful, scared, and he deserves to be isolated.
"oh he's so sad and isolated" - yeah, the kid that said he wanted to go to prison so he could be comfortable found out it wasn't as nice as he thought. That's all there is to it. The prison staff say he doesn't show an ounce of remorse and they see him every day, whereas he only has to play the victim to his dad once a month. I know parents can have a certain blindness in cases like this but he's really just projecting his own feelings onto his son.
Yeah when they specified how amaciable and mature the break up was, my internal monologue said that dynamic was super dysfunctional and produced a monster
Will's parents being shocked that their son was capable of murder and calling him a good kid sounds SO familiar. In the recent school shooting at Uvalde, Texas, the shooter's parents said the same thing about their young son-- calling him a great kid. It just breaks my heart and confuses me how parents could not see the signs. Children send subtle cries for help to parents, but sometimes adults are too busy with work/life stress to see what's in front of them. Praying for healing for Will's parents, Ann's family, and all witnesses to this horrible tragedy.
When I was a very young, I was diagnosed with depression and sometimes it came out as anger, delusions and paranoia. My mom always made sure to sit me down and ask me if I had ever wanted to hurt myself or others when she saw signs that I wasn't doing well. The many therapists and experts I saw asked the same and my mother did a good job making sure I got the help I needed. I was never a danger to others and the scarier parts of depression eventually fade in kids. But it absolutely is possible to see the signs and prevent anything from happening. Kids just need help and someone paying attention.
True. Anyone that's capable of such evil acts, aren't good kids. Apparently, many of them are so used to getting their way with everything and their parent's won’t hold them accountable, instead they make excuses for their kids, deny their behavior, or point the finger of blame away from their child and onto someone else.
Parents nowadays (and by nowadays I mean since about 20/15 years ago until now) don't give a crap about their kids. They don't know their kids. They barely talk to them. I know this economy is difficult and everybody tries to work very hard in order to make money and provide for their family but if parents can't save some moments of their day to get to know their kids and talk to them then they shouldn't have kids.
The way Ann’s family was treated is truly baffling and it’s frustrating to know that the school didn’t even reach out to them to try to give an explanation or even send their condolences for something that happened IN CLASS. She should have been safe in her classroom safe in that school but she wasn’t yet they couldn’t even take the time to reach out to her family. It shows how fucked up the school system can be, how ignorant they can be when something this tragic happens. Ann’s family deserved better, Ann deserved better after teaching there for all of those years. It’s very clear that Will was becoming unhinged.. he showed the knives to classmates that he planned on using to murder someone!! He doesn’t deserve to ever be released or to live in society again. If just one person said something maybe this never would have happened.
Agree 💯 with you. This whole situation is totally baffling. The council found "there was no way it could have been prevented" ???? It definitely seems to me that imo Will's parents have some influence in Leeds just my opinion, it's totally unfair. School should be closed because of the "cover up". Definitely needs more investigation
Definitely because they don’t want to take the blame or be sewed for something like this… Though how was he even allowed to bring the knives in school? This whole thing makes me sick. No one was looking out for her. 🙄
I agree with you and that made me so mad and disgusted. The only thing the school is worried about is their reputation and trying to make the school perfect which is just an insult to Ann's family.
I was at this school when this happens and the school did reach out and held events in her name. Her funeral was also at the church right next door. However I do agree it should not have happened
As a 14 or 16 year old I would have spoken up. I cannot believe none of the kids said anything!! He should absolutely never be released, murder should ALWAYS carry a life sentence. This definitely could have been prevented if people had spoken up.
I definitely agree. At that age I knew that even speaking of something so serious, wasn’t a joke. I have two girls, they will always be taught no matter if someone seems like they’re joking, always speak up
It’s touching to hear how much the other teacher tried to help Anne and to give her peace in her final moments. I’m glad she could have at least been surrounded by love and someone who cares. This is such a truly sad and horrific case.
I spent my life teaching middle school. Out of the thousands of kids I taught, I was threatened by only one. So much so that I wrote his name down and told staff as well as my family his name and address. I said, If I end up dead or missing...he's the one. I've never before or since been so scared. That young man looked THROUGH me as he threatened me.
I got threatened by a 8 year old kid once. The school did not nothing, was such an odd kid. I feel for every victim of 'weird lonely kid' to think that could of been me 😞
when i was 11 there was a kid in my class who had been held back a couple years and spent time in juvie. during social studies he started threatening the teacher and she moved us to another classroom. i don't remember what he said to her, just that it was bad enough the police were called and i watched them take him away.
That's probably why he wanted to join the army..thinking of it as authorised violence. Once he didn't get that outlet, he got fixated on a person. I doubt very much he regrets what he did.
The fact that she was simply doing her job. That’s what gets me. She went the extra mile for students and he just didn’t like her, which could be fair enough. But to take her life, steal her from her family. She was a temporary person in his life. He never would have seen her after college. So unnecessary and disgusting
Something I always see in these cases is: “his parents were a nice normal family” then go on to list severe trauma symptoms, personality disorders, depression, self harm etc which aren’t naturally occurring. Something isn’t right there. People would have written the same thing about my parents, outwardly lovely Christian members of the community but parented with narcissism, shame, emotional neglect. It’s absolutely then down to the person being an evil sh!t that they do this. But the pathway to it is always interesting and something no one sees. We need to be more aware of emotional abuse and the signs. These kids (in the early stage of showing trauma signs and therefore antisocial behaviour) don’t need more punishment, they need trauma therapy and help finding the root.
You're right, he needed help with his mental health, I think him being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes made him change his whole personality, I'm a type one diabetic too and even though I grew up having a normal life, after being diagnosed and having to deal with that, you never get to rest, sleep a whole night, all the things that come with being a t1d doesn't matter how much work you put into it, you still have to deal with it 24/7, for the age that he was diagnosed and without the support I can see why he became such an evil person, even after years of being diagnosed I still get my moments of depression and need help to continue with life at just 24yrs, before my t1d I was never depressed or felt like sometimes I do now.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly sure you can be born with a personality disorder. They often develop in ones teenage years as the brain develops further
@@loganarnoldkicks4321 in early psychology they thought it was just how people were born but now we know it’s almost always nurture. You can be genetically more at risk to develop something if your parent has due to elevated cortisol levels and thing like that, but again, that usually won’t come out if they were raised in a loving, emotionally mature home. It’s very interesting!
I think talking about murdering people is sadly not taken seriously enough because its normalised as being 'edgy'. Ive known a few people who talk like that and think they're being quirky and dark but would never actually go through with it. That poor woman didn't have to die that day.
i feel like making an off hand comment about wanting to hit someone with a car (still pretty morbid) is very different from speaking incredibly violently and consistently about one particular person.
i personally think this definitely could have been prevented in so many phases, but i think no one would have expected Will to have done this. if his parents had a feeling something was up, I think they should have been putting some more restrictions on him. ever since he found out he couldn't be in the army it was a downhill slope so maybe if they had been more insistent and even checked his messages it could have been prevented.
My mom know who I email I wish Will's parents knew who he emailed they should check his messages and make sure he's doing great and not cause any danger online but since they didn't that caused all of this
I believe he really is a psychopath. He doesn’t have any empathy. He only regrets being in prison and wants out. He is going to say what he needs to get out and that’s it. It’s physically hard to stab someone to death. He could of stopped at anytime, but he didn’t. That’s what makes it so scary to hear. Every teen has a teacher they don’t like, but not enough to kill them. So sad. It could of been prevented if someone reported the knifes. I understand thinking he was just talking trash, but once you see a weapon it changed the narrative completely. As for her family, I think it’s a disgrace no one from the school reached out especially since she worked there for 40 years. So sorry for all the victims in this tragic story…
I wish parents would accept that something is wrong with their child and act upon it. No excuse, just do something to prevent that child from harming themselves or other people.
It 100% could have been prevented if one of the kids he told spoke up. At the same time, these are teenagers who probably did not take him seriously. At that time they should know better and should have spoken up. Will is the killer and it's 100% his fault. He should never be let out because he most likely do it again. He had no reason to kill her, thought it was worth bragging about after he did it and still has no remorse. That boy is a psychopath and is extremely dangerous.
If Will had a gun, you can bet more people would have been killed including children. Students need to speak up when they see people struggling, threatening or voicing violence thoughts. Education on this topic should be mandatory in all classrooms. Rip Mrs. Maguire ❤
i love that you’re having “solved” in the thumbnail. i don’t really enjoy unsolved cases and having solved in the thumbnail makes me so excited to watch
I was a student at this school during this time and in the same year as will, you have covered this case very well and as someone who was present at the school on this day, you have not missed a single detail
Yes, this could have been prevented! He had told so many about wanting to murder her including offering money to another student. If one of those kids had come forward with that information, intervention might have been possible. If any young people are reading this: if you see or hear something say something. Go to your parents or a trusted adult who can see things more clearly from experience and intervene before something happens. Trust your gut feeling, you never know how it can save someone from a tragedy like this one that her family has to deal with forever!
It seems to be a regular occurrence that people don't take statements others say as serious? Even suicidal speak is generally pushed aside or brushed under the rug, until the person talking about it goes through with it. I just don't understand people 😕
I am usually pretty good with murder videos but right when Bella talks about the teacher holder anne and telling her she was loved just hits so hard ….my heart goes to EVERYONE that suffered that day and still does 🖤
Very strange that none of these students didn't tell their parents that Ann's life was in danger. It makes me mad that her family was left in the dark when they didn't tell them what happened to Ann. It definitely could have been prevented if someone said something to the school. I have never seen anything like this before. These teens are at school to learn not commit crimes and kill their teachers brutally. Ann's family should've been told the truth.
I’ve been watching ur videos for so long, I just wanted to say thank u for exposing me more to true crime and always making ur content with compassion. With the surplus of true crime content out there now there’s so many videos that seem to have ill intentions or just come across very insensitive & I appreciate how much care you put into ur content 🤎
I remember when I was younger my mum told me about this case because she went to that school and that was her teacher. She told me that she was her favourite teacher and still talks to me about her. She didn’t deserve what happened to her.
i def think it could’ve been prevented had the other kids spoke up ab it.. even if it were a joke, having weapons on school grounds is illegal so that’s something they could’ve spoke up ab but it seems he had his mind made up on his hatred for her so it doesn’t really seem like there was much stopping him. i fully think he was solely responsible & it obviously shocked everyone around him. i especially feel bad for the teacher’s family
This is the first video I have seen on this case. Im from Leeds and I remember this happening so clearly and it was horrific. Im so glad this case it getting the attention it deserves. Thank you!
Hi im from leeds UK and Ann maguire was my school teacher in 2006. She was an amazing and so kind teacher. She taught me r.e (Religious education) and also my head teacher when I was in year 11. Watching this video brings me back good memories about her. Mrs maguire wasn't ment to be in school that day she was helping out for exams
14-16 year olds are old enough to know that murder or suicide is something you report immediately. He told 10 pupils! Reminds me of the Kitty Genovese case :((((
Hi Bella, I just wanted to say thank you for all of the hard work you put into researching and putting together these true crime cases. Yayyyyyyy Bella !!! You always give off such a positive vibe which is awesome thanks.
Girl!!!! Pumping them out this week! No issues because we all ❤️ seeing your beautiful face and listening to your beautiful voice! Plus you got such a awesome sense of humor too.
Oh no!!! Please stand tall and know you are special!!!! Remember some are just miserable or perhaps envy-especially if you are doing the job better than the bully! Take care of yourself!!!
No one deserves that but know you’re not alone. My friend, try and think of this period as; a blessing or a lesson (best part, if it’s a lesson, that’s a blessing too ❤️). Stay strong, better days ahead! Bosses can really suck!
sorry to hear about your boss :/ you don't deserve to be treated that way, I pray there is another avenue you can take for work, I pray your boss develops a kinder heart
Hope you’re looking for a new job. A bad boss can make life miserable! I’ll never try to ignore or out last a shitty boss again. BTDT, life is too short.
That sneeze at the beginning. So you!! Lol. Thank you for all the videos that past few days!! This case is so sad! I teared up when her husband held her hand when she passed. So, so sad.
Hey Bella! Love your videos as always. As a teacher, our hope and expectations is that students will ALWAYS report if they hear anything - regardless of whether they think it’s a joke. Situations like this are the catalyst for the “Okay to Say” and “See Something, Say Something” messages that we so eagerly push in schools now. It’s so important that teachers and parents remind their students that it is always safer to report and have the situation looked into, even if they think it’s a “joke”.
absolutely horrifying and could've been prevented. Even if people thought he was joking they should've said or done something because the things he was talking about weren't funny or normal. He's sick and and what makes him even more terrifying is his lack of remorse. He needs to stay in jail where he wanted to be
Have been pretty depressed lately... I enjoy watching your videos because your voice is calming and the cases you cover are always interesting. I'm loving these frequent uploads!
The poor teacher was only doing her job and going above and beyond, heartbreaking. I feel so bad for all the people that witnessed this and for Anns Family. Definetely couldve been prevented if the other kids spoke up about it.
Absolutely, it could have been prevented! The messages he sent to friends were way beyond joking. Every school murderer displays troubling signs of mental and emotional issues and tells many people what they are thinking of doing. How can anyone, teen or adult, listen to someone say the things he said and not be concerned, not tell someone? It saddens me that people won't step in when a friend, student, coworker, neighbor, etc. clearly is struggling. Imagine the deaths that can be prevented.
I really wish we as a society would stop saying dramatic “omg i wanna kill them” as a joke because the amount of people who have confessed their crimes before committing them is crazy. we gotta do better 😖
I am loving you giving us all of these cases. So exciting to see you have uploaded. You made me smile. Please keep up the awesome coverage of these cases. I hope you have a fabulous week.
Thank you, Bella! Three days in a row! I really do appreciate all the time & research you put into your videos. Also, God bless you on the sneeze, so cute. 💕💙
I've been an educator for 7 years.... I have to admit that this is one of my biggest fears .. This clearly could have been prevented... The students he told, IDC if it's a joke or not...if one of my friends say they want to kill someone, I'm telling a trusted adult...
I think his dad just desperately wants his son out of prison. Will said he WANTED to go to prison. He talked on and on about how much he hated his teacher and how much he wanted to kill her. He got exactly what he wanted, a prison sentence, now stay put.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Kids are under so much pressure and parents are too busy to notice or too scared to acknowledge. My heart breaks for both families.
Oh it totally could’ve been prevented if they kids had come forward AND if the adults had listened. Plus after he was diagnosed AND his dream of the military was ruined he should’ve been put into therapy. I don’t think he cares at all about what he did he was too far gone by then and there’s no going back.
yeah but also if a peer showed me a knife in secondary school and said “don’t tell or i’ll kill you” i would of definitely not say anything, i would of been terrified.
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he was “acting normal” weeks leading up but they’re also the same people who said he had acted different/more angry since he found out he couldn’t go to the military. i get they’re in denial but in the end, he did it and doesn’t have a single bit of remorse. there’s no reason he should be able to walk freely.
I'm from Birmingham and I remember having a lesson on this in year 8 I think? It was big news and I remember everyone talking about it. Such a sad case. He was bitter about his own life so simply took someone else's like it meant nothing. Only a coward does that.
Early intervention is so important. As an educator I had a 5yr old student threaten to cut my throat with a knife like object (he'd manipulated an item from the classroom to expose sharp metal) and also attempt to harm a child with scissors. I reported everything each time and he was sent to therapy, not allowed back until cleared.
my granny actually knew of ann mccguire and a lot of people did in leeds although i’m not sure if they knew eachother personally, they knew of her and i’m she was a well respected member of a community. i remember doing a race in memory of her with thousands of other primary school students in leeds when i was in year 5 (9-10 years old). i will never forget that race, everyone coming together to raise money in rememberance of her. RIP ann, you will never be forgotten.
I remember this happening, it was truly awful. People would avoid the school and be worried to visit. I played netball against Corpus Christi a few weeks after it had happened and the atmosphere was so solemn and sad… It felt like we should be there and it was disrespectful.
Can we just talk about the teacher that stayed by Anns side? How traumatic that must be holding another fellow teacher in her last moments...it was so sweet and just amazing of her to make Anns last moments comfortable and just letting her know how much of an impact she made in her students and the people around her...I started crying in that part
I started sobbing. Even writing to you now and I'm crying again just thinking about it 😥
Yes, that was really sad, and very compassionate of her. It had to be traumatic, and I pray she gets/got through that. 😪
I cried during this part. So sad
That made me cry too, so sad :(
That made me tear up too. What a special soul (both of them). So tragic and in my opinion something could have been done prior of anyone actually shared their concerns (I don’t know how it could have been brushed off esp when he started showing his knife in class after expressing his hate for her for so long). If only someone had stood up
It absolutely could have been prevented. The kids who saw the knives at school should have said something. Saying something about killing a hated teacher is one thing but when the would be murderer shows up with knives in the class of the said teacher...... I mean come on.
Well too be fair he showed them the knives just seconds before he went to kill her
I would assume the kids were probably too scared to yell for help in case he would turn the knife on them
It’s such a fucked up case, true fucking evil.
I mean yeah it’s easy to say that in hindsight from the comfort of your home, but we don’t know what it’s like to see a classmate pull a knife out and start being violent
because he showed them the knife like two seconds before he went in and did it. don’t blame the kids they’re probably traumatised for life
But even the messages beforehand? They definitely should’ve told someone.
i'm not one to snitch but after parkland (which was really close to my highschool) it scared the shit out of me and after that let me see someone showing off a knife that was sketchy im snitching im not about to give that person a chance to do anything
This could have been prevented on so many levels. Fourteen to sixteen years old is old enough to know that his actions and statements were wrong.
Exactly! Those kids should have reported that Will was threatening the teachers and had bought knives to school. What a POS he is. No excuse for his behaviour at all.
@@lauriejohnstone8217 why do people keep commenting about reporting the knife that was brought to school and how the other students should have said something? He showed them the knife just minutes before. They didn't have time to report it. I'm sure they had in mind to tell someone as soon as it was SAFE for them to speak. Considering all the school murders, you try being a teenager that gets up as soon as you see a knife to report it. Watch how fast YOU end up dead. People like you need some common sense and ask "what was going through their minds when they saw the knife?" I'm sure many of them thought "I want to report him for bringing a knife because he's obviously serious about this but if I get up right now and walk away or start screaming then he'll most likely kill me for trying to stop him. As soon as I'm away from him and safe then I'll speak up". Easy to pass judgement as an adult safe in your house and not a teen in a classroom next to a guy with a knife that might kill me if I get up right now to report it.
They were definitely old enough to report it. That’s not normal behavior
Especially when he showed ppl the knives. You can’t tell me they all thought “he’s joking” still.
I agree. Around this time, I was in high school and had a guy in my year like this. We were ALL on high alert, from as soon as we realised he was a little off until we finished high school. You can't report someone for just "being a bit weird," but you can keep an eye on them and report any threats as soon as possible. The guy in my school sharpened his fingernails into little points to scratch people, and said all sorts of weird incel type things, but nothing that could ever get him prosecuted (he went through with scratching someone with his freaky little nails and got disciplined by the school but that was it). Still, from 14-18 years old we were all on high alert, across all friend groups, 'cliques' etc. Even my high school bully was like yeah we need to watch out for that guy. Why so many people said they thought it was a joke when he was actively making threats about this woman is insane to me. Disliking your teacher is one thing, actively telling people you want to kill her is TOTALLY different.
I think Will's dad is delusional. It's readily apparent that Will was fully conscious of what he was doing before and after the murder. Will is a psychopath and should never be let out.
Agreed. Whether or not they ever thought he would actually go through with it is beside the point. They knew there were significant problems and you can’t convince me otherwise. For starters, I guarantee that he started acting out when he was diagnosed with T1. That’s extremely common in kids and it can cause some very uncharacteristic behaviour. But there are so many other ways I believe he’s either delusional or sugarcoating it.
The parents are always in Denial. Jeffrey Dahmers was the same. The common denominator with these serial killers are enabling parents, crappt childhood, etc.
And this young creep is very obviously selectively manipulating those he thinks could help him get out, like his parents, but shows his real face in front of those who he can't profit from, like the prison guards.
Has he been diagnosed as a psychopath?
Yep,100%
As a language teacher for the same age range, this case hits particularly close to home. Most of my students are great, but the chance that one will turn on you is never zero. And it’s terrifying. I hate that being a teacher has become a job where you have to worry for your safety.
Sad how Will’s father is enabling him to have a victim mindset, trying to paint Will in a better light. WILL IS NOT THE VICTIM. He wanted that life, he got it. He is not remorseful, scared, and he deserves to be isolated.
i agree with you completely but i think his poor dad really wants to believe will has remorse
I fully agree with you genesis . More : I would turn my back on him for ever . But could I ask that the other family members as well ?
"oh he's so sad and isolated" - yeah, the kid that said he wanted to go to prison so he could be comfortable found out it wasn't as nice as he thought. That's all there is to it. The prison staff say he doesn't show an ounce of remorse and they see him every day, whereas he only has to play the victim to his dad once a month. I know parents can have a certain blindness in cases like this but he's really just projecting his own feelings onto his son.
This 💛
Yeah when they specified how amaciable and mature the break up was, my internal monologue said that dynamic was super dysfunctional and produced a monster
Will's parents being shocked that their son was capable of murder and calling him a good kid sounds SO familiar. In the recent school shooting at Uvalde, Texas, the shooter's parents said the same thing about their young son-- calling him a great kid. It just breaks my heart and confuses me how parents could not see the signs. Children send subtle cries for help to parents, but sometimes adults are too busy with work/life stress to see what's in front of them. Praying for healing for Will's parents, Ann's family, and all witnesses to this horrible tragedy.
When I was a very young, I was diagnosed with depression and sometimes it came out as anger, delusions and paranoia. My mom always made sure to sit me down and ask me if I had ever wanted to hurt myself or others when she saw signs that I wasn't doing well. The many therapists and experts I saw asked the same and my mother did a good job making sure I got the help I needed. I was never a danger to others and the scarier parts of depression eventually fade in kids. But it absolutely is possible to see the signs and prevent anything from happening. Kids just need help and someone paying attention.
My thoughts too. It’s just another sign that these kids mental needs are not being met..
True. Anyone that's capable of such evil acts, aren't good kids. Apparently, many of them are so used to getting their way with everything and their parent's won’t hold them accountable, instead they make excuses for their kids, deny their behavior, or point the finger of blame away from their child and onto someone else.
Never under estimate the power of denial, especially parents towards their children.
Parents nowadays (and by nowadays I mean since about 20/15 years ago until now) don't give a crap about their kids. They don't know their kids. They barely talk to them. I know this economy is difficult and everybody tries to work very hard in order to make money and provide for their family but if parents can't save some moments of their day to get to know their kids and talk to them then they shouldn't have kids.
Justice was not done in this case. He should stay in prison. He is a danger to anyone who he decides he doesn't like. Sickening absolutely sickening.
The way Ann’s family was treated is truly baffling and it’s frustrating to know that the school didn’t even reach out to them to try to give an explanation or even send their condolences for something that happened IN CLASS. She should have been safe in her classroom safe in that school but she wasn’t yet they couldn’t even take the time to reach out to her family. It shows how fucked up the school system can be, how ignorant they can be when something this tragic happens. Ann’s family deserved better, Ann deserved better after teaching there for all of those years. It’s very clear that Will was becoming unhinged.. he showed the knives to classmates that he planned on using to murder someone!! He doesn’t deserve to ever be released or to live in society again. If just one person said something maybe this never would have happened.
Agree 💯 with you. This whole situation is totally baffling. The council found "there was no way it could have been prevented" ???? It definitely seems to me that imo Will's parents have some influence in Leeds just my opinion, it's totally unfair. School should be closed because of the "cover up". Definitely needs more investigation
Definitely because they don’t want to take the blame or be sewed for something like this… Though how was he even allowed to bring the knives in school? This whole thing makes me sick. No one was looking out for her. 🙄
I agree with you and that made me so mad and disgusted. The only thing the school is worried about is their reputation and trying to make the school perfect which is just an insult to Ann's family.
IKR! So disgusting!
I was at this school when this happens and the school did reach out and held events in her name. Her funeral was also at the church right next door. However I do agree it should not have happened
As a 14 or 16 year old I would have spoken up. I cannot believe none of the kids said anything!! He should absolutely never be released, murder should ALWAYS carry a life sentence. This definitely could have been prevented if people had spoken up.
I definitely agree. At that age I knew that even speaking of something so serious, wasn’t a joke. I have two girls, they will always be taught no matter if someone seems like they’re joking, always speak up
I am currently 14 and I know if one of my friends were saying things like that I would say something.
I wouldn't have said something because I wouldn't have wanted to be on the list of people he wanted to kill
Exactly. When I was that age I definitely would've told someone.
@@phiweloveso you would stand by and watch people get murdered?
It’s touching to hear how much the other teacher tried to help Anne and to give her peace in her final moments. I’m glad she could have at least been surrounded by love and someone who cares. This is such a truly sad and horrific case.
I spent my life teaching middle school. Out of the thousands of kids I taught, I was threatened by only one. So much so that I wrote his name down and told staff as well as my family his name and address. I said, If I end up dead or missing...he's the one. I've never before or since been so scared. That young man looked THROUGH me as he threatened me.
I got threatened by a 8 year old kid once. The school did not nothing, was such an odd kid. I feel for every victim of 'weird lonely kid' to think that could of been me 😞
I have also only been scared of one of my students so far. My gut feeling towards him was this kid could be a school shooter.
I wonder if he went on to do violence…
when i was 11 there was a kid in my class who had been held back a couple years and spent time in juvie. during social studies he started threatening the teacher and she moved us to another classroom. i don't remember what he said to her, just that it was bad enough the police were called and i watched them take him away.
I am 38 now but when I was a kid I had couple teachers I didn't like but I never thought about hurting any of them!
That's probably why he wanted to join the army..thinking of it as authorised violence. Once he didn't get that outlet, he got fixated on a person. I doubt very much he regrets what he did.
My thoughts exactly!
Wow yes! This!
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If Will is old enough to commit premeditated murder, he is old enough to stand alone in the court room.
The fact that she was simply doing her job. That’s what gets me. She went the extra mile for students and he just didn’t like her, which could be fair enough. But to take her life, steal her from her family. She was a temporary person in his life. He never would have seen her after college. So unnecessary and disgusting
She seemed like the sweetest person in the world. People had such wonderful, lovely things to say about her. Makes my heart hurt so much. 😭
Something I always see in these cases is: “his parents were a nice normal family” then go on to list severe trauma symptoms, personality disorders, depression, self harm etc which aren’t naturally occurring. Something isn’t right there. People would have written the same thing about my parents, outwardly lovely Christian members of the community but parented with narcissism, shame, emotional neglect.
It’s absolutely then down to the person being an evil sh!t that they do this. But the pathway to it is always interesting and something no one sees. We need to be more aware of emotional abuse and the signs. These kids (in the early stage of showing trauma signs and therefore antisocial behaviour) don’t need more punishment, they need trauma therapy and help finding the root.
You're right, he needed help with his mental health, I think him being diagnosed with type 1 diabetes made him change his whole personality, I'm a type one diabetic too and even though I grew up having a normal life, after being diagnosed and having to deal with that, you never get to rest, sleep a whole night, all the things that come with being a t1d doesn't matter how much work you put into it, you still have to deal with it 24/7, for the age that he was diagnosed and without the support I can see why he became such an evil person, even after years of being diagnosed I still get my moments of depression and need help to continue with life at just 24yrs, before my t1d I was never depressed or felt like sometimes I do now.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly sure you can be born with a personality disorder. They often develop in ones teenage years as the brain develops further
@@loganarnoldkicks4321 in early psychology they thought it was just how people were born but now we know it’s almost always nurture. You can be genetically more at risk to develop something if your parent has due to elevated cortisol levels and thing like that, but again, that usually won’t come out if they were raised in a loving, emotionally mature home. It’s very interesting!
I think talking about murdering people is sadly not taken seriously enough because its normalised as being 'edgy'. Ive known a few people who talk like that and think they're being quirky and dark but would never actually go through with it. That poor woman didn't have to die that day.
i feel like making an off hand comment about wanting to hit someone with a car (still pretty morbid) is very different from speaking incredibly violently and consistently about one particular person.
@@amaude i do agree that its different but its still very weird to joke/talk about
i personally think this definitely could have been prevented in so many phases, but i think no one would have expected Will to have done this. if his parents had a feeling something was up, I think they should have been putting some more restrictions on him. ever since he found out he couldn't be in the army it was a downhill slope so maybe if they had been more insistent and even checked his messages it could have been prevented.
Agreed
My mom know who I email I wish Will's parents knew who he emailed they should check his messages and make sure he's doing great and not cause any danger online but since they didn't that caused all of this
I believe he really is a psychopath. He doesn’t have any empathy. He only regrets being in prison and wants out. He is going to say what he needs to get out and that’s it. It’s physically hard to stab someone to death. He could of stopped at anytime, but he didn’t. That’s what makes it so scary to hear. Every teen has a teacher they don’t like, but not enough to kill them. So sad. It could of been prevented if someone reported the knifes. I understand thinking he was just talking trash, but once you see a weapon it changed the narrative completely. As for her family, I think it’s a disgrace no one from the school reached out especially since she worked there for 40 years. So sorry for all the victims in this tragic story…
She just has such a kind, caring face. How anyone could do this to someone is beyond me.
I wish parents would accept that something is wrong with their child and act upon it. No excuse, just do something to prevent that child from harming themselves or other people.
It 100% could have been prevented if one of the kids he told spoke up. At the same time, these are teenagers who probably did not take him seriously. At that time they should know better and should have spoken up. Will is the killer and it's 100% his fault. He should never be let out because he most likely do it again. He had no reason to kill her, thought it was worth bragging about after he did it and still has no remorse. That boy is a psychopath and is extremely dangerous.
Kids often say things like ugh I could kill her. I would not have believed him
Bless the teacher who was so kind to Ann on her last moments
If Will had a gun, you can bet more people would have been killed including children. Students need to speak up when they see people struggling, threatening or voicing violence thoughts. Education on this topic should be mandatory in all classrooms. Rip Mrs. Maguire ❤
I find it incredibly disturbing that ppl would write his threats off as a joke or a “teenager being a teenager.”
i love that you’re having “solved” in the thumbnail. i don’t really enjoy unsolved cases and having solved in the thumbnail makes me so excited to watch
U know it's gonna be a good week when Bella spoils us with these videos!
I was a student at this school during this time and in the same year as will, you have covered this case very well and as someone who was present at the school on this day, you have not missed a single detail
Were you surprised or was he always “off”?
SO MUCH CONTENT. thank you for the dedication bella
The two teachers who walked in and took him were brave as hell.
He sounds absolutely sociopathic, no remorse, no empathy, seriously needed help.
Wow this one is infuriating and heartbreaking. My heart goes out to Ann’s family.
Yes, this could have been prevented! He had told so many about wanting to murder her including offering money to another student. If one of those kids had come forward with that information, intervention might have been possible. If any young people are reading this: if you see or hear something say something. Go to your parents or a trusted adult who can see things more clearly from experience and intervene before something happens. Trust your gut feeling, you never know how it can save someone from a tragedy like this one that her family has to deal with forever!
It seems to be a regular occurrence that people don't take statements others say as serious? Even suicidal speak is generally pushed aside or brushed under the rug, until the person talking about it goes through with it. I just don't understand people 😕
I am usually pretty good with murder videos but right when Bella talks about the teacher holder anne and telling her she was loved just hits so hard ….my heart goes to EVERYONE that suffered that day and still does 🖤
Very strange that none of these students didn't tell their parents that Ann's life was in danger. It makes me mad that her family was left in the dark when they didn't tell them what happened to Ann. It definitely could have been prevented if someone said something to the school. I have never seen anything like this before. These teens are at school to learn not commit crimes and kill their teachers brutally. Ann's family should've been told the truth.
I’ve been watching ur videos for so long, I just wanted to say thank u for exposing me more to true crime and always making ur content with compassion. With the surplus of true crime content out there now there’s so many videos that seem to have ill intentions or just come across very insensitive & I appreciate how much care you put into ur content 🤎
I remember when I was younger my mum told me about this case because she went to that school and that was her teacher. She told me that she was her favourite teacher and still talks to me about her. She didn’t deserve what happened to her.
thank you so much i really needed this distraction from the toxic and abusive environment rn, you have no idea how grateful i am
i def think it could’ve been prevented had the other kids spoke up ab it.. even if it were a joke, having weapons on school grounds is illegal so that’s something they could’ve spoke up ab but it seems he had his mind made up on his hatred for her so it doesn’t really seem like there was much stopping him. i fully think he was solely responsible & it obviously shocked everyone around him. i especially feel bad for the teacher’s family
I'm so happy to see you again :) so many videos now!! We love that, thank you bella
This is the first video I have seen on this case. Im from Leeds and I remember this happening so clearly and it was horrific. Im so glad this case it getting the attention it deserves. Thank you!
Hi im from leeds UK and Ann maguire was my school teacher in 2006. She was an amazing and so kind teacher. She taught me r.e (Religious education) and also my head teacher when I was in year 11. Watching this video brings me back good memories about her. Mrs maguire wasn't ment to be in school that day she was helping out for exams
14-16 year olds are old enough to know that murder or suicide is something you report immediately. He told 10 pupils! Reminds me of the Kitty Genovese case :((((
How frustrating is this case. He warned many times.
It seems like all of these kids give signs, smh, we have to start believing them.
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Yes. Can't take chances. If it ends up being just a weird, elaborate joke at least they'll learn not to joke about things like that anymore.
Thank you for the loads of content lately. She could’ve been saved if that kid got help
Woah 3 cases in 3 days Bella! Knocking it out of the park and we appreciate it as always 🧡
these just keep on coming, thanks Bella!
Hi Bella,
I just wanted to say thank you for all of the hard work you put into researching and putting together these true crime cases. Yayyyyyyy Bella !!! You always give off such a positive vibe which is awesome thanks.
Girl!!!! Pumping them out this week! No issues because we all ❤️ seeing your beautiful face and listening to your beautiful voice! Plus you got such a awesome sense of humor too.
After another stressful day of being bullied and belittled by my boss at work this is just what I needed I love your videos ❤️
Oh no!!! Please stand tall and know you are special!!!! Remember some are just miserable or perhaps envy-especially if you are doing the job better than the bully! Take care of yourself!!!
No one deserves that but know you’re not alone. My friend, try and think of this period as; a blessing or a lesson (best part, if it’s a lesson, that’s a blessing too ❤️). Stay strong, better days ahead! Bosses can really suck!
sorry to hear about your boss :/ you don't deserve to be treated that way, I pray there is another avenue you can take for work, I pray your boss develops a kinder heart
Hope you’re looking for a new job. A bad boss can make life miserable! I’ll never try to ignore or out last a shitty boss again. BTDT, life is too short.
That sneeze at the beginning. So you!! Lol. Thank you for all the videos that past few days!!
This case is so sad! I teared up when her husband held her hand when she passed. So, so sad.
Bella is blessing us with her existence. I love her videos
Hey Bella! Love your videos as always. As a teacher, our hope and expectations is that students will ALWAYS report if they hear anything - regardless of whether they think it’s a joke. Situations like this are the catalyst for the “Okay to Say” and “See Something, Say Something” messages that we so eagerly push in schools now. It’s so important that teachers and parents remind their students that it is always safer to report and have the situation looked into, even if they think it’s a “joke”.
absolutely horrifying and could've been prevented. Even if people thought he was joking they should've said or done something because the things he was talking about weren't funny or normal. He's sick and and what makes him even more terrifying is his lack of remorse. He needs to stay in jail where he wanted to be
Thanks for the video Bella!!
Have been pretty depressed lately... I enjoy watching your videos because your voice is calming and the cases you cover are always interesting. I'm loving these frequent uploads!
The poor teacher was only doing her job and going above and beyond, heartbreaking. I feel so bad for all the people that witnessed this and for Anns Family. Definetely couldve been prevented if the other kids spoke up about it.
Absolutely, it could have been prevented! The messages he sent to friends were way beyond joking. Every school murderer displays troubling signs of mental and emotional issues and tells many people what they are thinking of doing. How can anyone, teen or adult, listen to someone say the things he said and not be concerned, not tell someone? It saddens me that people won't step in when a friend, student, coworker, neighbor, etc. clearly is struggling. Imagine the deaths that can be prevented.
I really wish we as a society would stop saying dramatic “omg i wanna kill them” as a joke because the amount of people who have confessed their crimes before committing them is crazy. we gotta do better 😖
I wasnt expecting new video this soon. Thank you Bella!
Shoutout to you Bella!!! You’ve been working so hard and I’ve needed a distraction these past few days ❤️ love u girl
Bella blessing us with all this content 😍
I am loving you giving us all of these cases. So exciting to see you have uploaded. You made me smile. Please keep up the awesome coverage of these cases. I hope you have a fabulous week.
Thank you, Bella! Three days in a row! I really do appreciate all the time & research you put into your videos. Also, God bless you on the sneeze, so cute. 💕💙
I had to rewind for the sneeze a few times. Too funny!
I've been an educator for 7 years.... I have to admit that this is one of my biggest fears ..
This clearly could have been prevented... The students he told, IDC if it's a joke or not...if one of my friends say they want to kill someone, I'm telling a trusted adult...
Bella your blessing us with all of these uploads back to back!! I love ittt! 🥰
That sneeze in the beginning and then immediately talking into a serious case 😂😂😂
Yes!! We all need a little levity. That sneeze was epic!
I think his dad just desperately wants his son out of prison. Will said he WANTED to go to prison. He talked on and on about how much he hated his teacher and how much he wanted to kill her. He got exactly what he wanted, a prison sentence, now stay put.
Bella is knocking out the videos and I’m here for it!! Thank you Bella
Bestie!! You're back so soon?? I'm so happy!! 💛💛💛
Bellaaa my beloved ! I was looking for something to watch and saw that you just uploaded thanks!
sissss!! i’m living for these back to back uploads! 🥰
im living for these uploads
I can't believe I've never heard of this case before. It's so sad that no one reported this behavior ahead of time.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Kids are under so much pressure and parents are too busy to notice or too scared to acknowledge. My heart breaks for both families.
Oh it totally could’ve been prevented if they kids had come forward AND if the adults had listened. Plus after he was diagnosed AND his dream of the military was ruined he should’ve been put into therapy. I don’t think he cares at all about what he did he was too far gone by then and there’s no going back.
yeah but also if a peer showed me a knife in secondary school and said “don’t tell or i’ll kill you” i would of definitely not say anything, i would of been terrified.
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Loving all these uploads! Thank you so much!! 💕
he was “acting normal” weeks leading up but they’re also the same people who said he had acted different/more angry since he found out he couldn’t go to the military. i get they’re in denial but in the end, he did it and doesn’t have a single bit of remorse. there’s no reason he should be able to walk freely.
you're spoiling us w all these videos!! love you so much i've been watching you since your first few vids!!
Omg mystery Monday on a Sunday, Monday, and a Tuesday! What a treat!
Dang Bella! Your pushing these videos out this week. Lol. Thanks lady!!
Okay but 3rd upload this week LOVING YOUR EFFORT BELLA🙌🏼🙌🏼 it ain’t unnoticed sis thank youuuuuu💯🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽
I'm from Birmingham and I remember having a lesson on this in year 8 I think? It was big news and I remember everyone talking about it. Such a sad case. He was bitter about his own life so simply took someone else's like it meant nothing. Only a coward does that.
Right on time for my bedtime. Best bedtime stories. Best voice ever!
Early intervention is so important. As an educator I had a 5yr old student threaten to cut my throat with a knife like object (he'd manipulated an item from the classroom to expose sharp metal) and also attempt to harm a child with scissors. I reported everything each time and he was sent to therapy, not allowed back until cleared.
Thanks for posting so frequently for us crime fanatics !
You’re officially my favourite
my granny actually knew of ann mccguire and a lot of people did in leeds although i’m not sure if they knew eachother personally, they knew of her and i’m she was a well respected member of a community. i remember doing a race in memory of her with thousands of other primary school students in leeds when i was in year 5 (9-10 years old). i will never forget that race, everyone coming together to raise money in rememberance of her.
RIP ann, you will never be forgotten.
I remember this happening, it was truly awful.
People would avoid the school and be worried to visit.
I played netball against Corpus Christi a few weeks after it had happened and the atmosphere was so solemn and sad…
It felt like we should be there and it was disrespectful.
Three videos in three days?! Thank you!!! And you always post them when I'm doing my cleaning, which is perfect 💃
2 cases in 24 hours!? God I needed this after today, Love your videos! ♡
3 videos bella! Your really spoiling us we appreciate it and we love you
Thank you for uploading so frequently 🙏❤️
All these uploads! 🤩
Thank you for everything you do Bella!
Wow! This was a great video Bella! This could have been prevented for sure.
What did we do to deserve another video already? 👑
EXACTLY! X
1:24 Bless you for the sneeze. Good video Bella!