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In the comic, "Men of Good Fortune" (of what this Hob Gabling adaptation is based on), Morpheus did not miss the 1989 meeting because he was captured for only 70+ years not 100+ years. The comic came out in 1989 (that being the present day then). They changed it to fit our present day 2021, 33 years late, for the storyline. It was rumored that at some point during the missing years, Death came to Hob and explained to him what happened ( but you can take that with a grain of salt though as it was never said or proven.). Season 1 is based on the first 2 volumes of Sandman. Volume 1 "Preludes & Nocturnes" and Volume 2 "The Doll's House". You can find them for sale at any large book store, worth buying and reading.
Great reaction as usual. Always thoughtful and insightful. This was a redeeming episode for me and yes it was like two episodes in one, but I think that has to do with the fact that it's being drawn directly from the comics. There's some deep concepts going on there as well. Not just with death, but with Hobs as well and my question at this point was "Why would desire and dream be at odds? Is it just the personalities of the individuals or is it deeper than that regarding their jobs?" Guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
Death has always been my favorite sibling of the Endless. The casting was brilliant and she really did bring everything you feel from the comic version of her to life. I'm hoping Sandman does well enough that we may get Death's spin-off stories. The High Cost of Living was an integral piece of literature for this young goth girl in the 90's. Edit* I'm in the Hob camp. If I was given the choice of immortality, I would probably take it because there is so much, so much to life and progress and humanity that we never really get to experience in our short mortal lives.
Also part of the Hob camp. All my life I've always been the only one who says "I wouldn't mind being immortal, sure" every time the topic comes up between friends and family, so getting to see Hob's perception on this and capturing what I think all of us who agree with him share is really magnificent.
Hob was actually grading papers as a history teacher when Dream visited him in the Inn. I find this very funny as he's immortal so he'd know everything about it as he was THERE
@@fraelikkriil830 Neil Gaiman confirmed it was canon on his Tumblr :) They actually thought of a different reunion scene between Hob and Dream, with Dream popping up during one of Hob's course in his university, but settled on the one we got in the pub in the end
He probably also thought it was his moral duty to help people learn from history. He knows what it was like to be swept up in an amoral fad like slavery and realize how evil it was. Such a valuable perspective.
I don’t know if you guys noticed but one of the “exceptions” that Death has was “Mad Hettie”. The old woman that knew Morpheus who claimed she was over 200 years old. She was in the 2nd episode.
"The Sunless lands are far away and the journey is hard. Most of us will be glad for the company of a friend... at the end I am there with them. I am holding their hands and they are holding mine." This is my favorite part of that dialog. Death as a friend is one of my favorite iterations.
I love watching reactions to this episode. People see Sam's death and are like "Honeymoon? That's so depressing." and I just think, "Wait for the next one."
Oh, yay! Already on Ep 6..... 🌹 (Fun fact: the first segment is a totally faithful, panel-to-panel adaptation of how it went down in the graphic novel/comics... that bench conversation's an iconic moment for many Sandman fans like myself and NG made sure it's gonna feel like it's lifted straight out of the page ^_^) I just LOVE how the the 2 halves of this episode mirror each other! Notice how it starts off with a frowning Dream feeling lost and alone > then finishes up with a bit more hope in seeing Hob and with the rarest of smiles :p ... we first watch him learn (or re-learn) the meaning of DEATH, then later sees/appreciates the value of LIFE through his meetings with a human who can never die. Another reason why this is one of my absolute favorite arcs in the series is the way Death handled that wager with Dream.... she made it sound like she did Hob a favor by granting him immortality... but what she really did was give her brother a FRIEND
@@JerzeyBoyz Me too... it's pretty amazing how they put it all together onscreen with full respect to the source material :) It's fun watching these reactions as you both get so absorbed by each episode! As a long-time fan off the comic series, I just love the attention to detail & small moments.... it's like rediscovering Sandman through (four) fresh eyes 😊 ... can't w8 for the nxt upload!
Ya'll are pretty good lol. Good commentary, quips, and paying attention through your jokes so that you don't miss much even if you have to say something or throw a witty line out there. Missing moments due to inattention I can tell you is up there in what can annoy viewers. Watching you 2 it doesn't seem like a problem, be able to talk and watch at the same time. It sounds easier than it is for some reactors, but you'd be surprised. Subbed and looking forward to the next one and to check out your library and see what else you guys have on tap 🤙🏽 Also nice catch on Hobb's line about learning his lesson about being caught as an immortal/going broke so he had started stashing money away all over the world to prevent detection.
Fun fact: If you didn't catch it, Hob is grading papers at the end. He ended up becoming a... history teacher! Haha! Isn't that just the best job for someone who's lived so long? xD If you remember what he said, he said he always keeps making the same mistakes despite living so long. Like he doesn't learn. So after trying to money, fame, instead now he helps other know history so that maybe they can do things better. So that in 100 years, maybe things might be better : )
One thing I’ve always loved are the background conversations are the same as happened in the previous 600 years - “are you hunting for rabbits again vicar” same joke as “are you hunting for rabbits again friar” that we heard in 1389
This is one of the best episodes in television I've ever seen, period. You don't even really need to have watched ANY of the other Sandman stories to get it, it would work as two short films with almost zero changes necessary. It's a beautiful piece of art, both these two original comics and the adaptation.
Two of the most popular stories, between two darker ones. Everyone misses Chaucer in the first pub scene, but they always get Shakespeare. Even Lushing Lou was based on a real person. They couldn't use John, so they lifted Johanna from this story, and the modern one is named after her.
Fun fact about Death. She visits everybody twice. She's the first person everybody sees when they're born. And then when they die. She bookends everybody's life.
this is probably my favourite episode of the whole show. i absolutely adore this portrayal of death (not only is she super sweet and comforting and brought me to tears, but kirby howell-baptiste is one of the most gorgeous human beings i've ever seen), i love the dynamic between her and dream, AND i love hob's whole story & dynamic w dream. this episode was just wins upon wins for me.
As the camera focuses in on Hobb at the pub in 1989, someone in the background is making the same joke about "hunting for rabbits" as is made in 1389, except he uses the term vicar instead of friar.
I keep commenting on people's posts of this episode. Death actually didn't always like her job, in fact she hated it for a very long time until she got the idea to spend one day every century as a mortal and then reap herself. After she started doing this she saw the beauty in what she does, what she has to do.
It was controversial to cast a black woman to play Death, because many fans wanted the classic skinny, white, goth girl. For me, judging purelly by visuals, I think Death being black is even cooler! Everything about her is black, now even her skin.
People that were decapitated on the guillotine (which was a fast and surgical decapitation rather then previous attempts that usually require multiple blows) were apparently aware of their state until they finally died of oxygen deprivation. So I would suggest a decapitated Hob head would still be quite aware and alive, but otherwise quite helpless.
I love the attention to detail in this series. Small things you would hardly notice but added in anyway. Like the same joke being told in the background in 1989 as well as in 1389, or the fact that Hob was grating papers when Morphius walked in, showing that he's a teacher now, most likely a history teacher.
This episode is one of my favorite episodes and adaptations in recent TV I have watched. Death is just amazing. and Dream & Hob relationship is right up there with Crowley and Aziraphale from Good Omens, same vibes.
As a hospice worker, I can assure you that this depiction of "death" is how we hospice workers see ourselves, and we are definitely the most "positive, up-beat" people you will ever find 😂 I loved your reaction! Thanks for sharing with us! ❤
The timing of the Dream and Hob dates is a little different from the comics, in the comics, Dream was captured for 70 years so he makes the date in time. in the series, it's 100 years so he missed it for more angst. and the year is present time 2022.
Head thing totally applicable to another character in the comics. so, funny. Also, Hob pops up several more times in the comics, I'd expect to see him again.
Hey guys. Are you guys gonna start Wednesday (Netflix) soon? It is super popular right now. All the reactors are watching it now. Might be cool if you guys did it too. If you have time 👍🏻🖤
The only thing they cut that I wish was there was death telling *spoiler* “you got what everyone gets. You got a lifetime.” But overall, it was amazingly done.
If there was anyone who would be in a park, moping and pigeon feeding, it would definitely be Morpheus. 😂😂 Right after the Franklin reveal of Morpheus being her brother, the tone of Dream's voice is entirely "I'm minding my own business and still I'm getting roasted by my sister."
And for every answer you get, you'll probably have even more questions. Whether or not you ever get the answers to those questions will depend on how many seasons of the show they do. I'm guessing it will take at least 4 seasons to cover all the major story lines of the comics. Some of your (future) questions will be answered in Season 2, but others won't be answered until the very end. If the show doesn't last that long, you'll have to read the comics for your answers--which I recommend you do at some point regardless of how long the show lasts.
Each summer I go to a large international furry convention in Berlin, it's a week of fun, meeting old and new friends alike from all over Europe and beyond. The last day is always super emotional, knowing you probably won't see most of them for another year at least. I managed to keep back the tears, but I still had a 12 hour bus ride ahead to get home, and I had this whole first season of Sandman ready to binge and make the time fly by. This is the episode where the tears finally came.
Mortality isn't an easy subject for anyone. For Hob its a mug game. I love the juxtaposition of the storylines. One about the end, the other about an unending life. It's beautiful storytelling.
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In the comic, "Men of Good Fortune" (of what this Hob Gabling adaptation is based on), Morpheus did not miss the 1989 meeting because he was captured for only 70+ years not 100+ years. The comic came out in 1989 (that being the present day then). They changed it to fit our present day 2021, 33 years late, for the storyline. It was rumored that at some point during the missing years, Death came to Hob and explained to him what happened ( but you can take that with a grain of salt though as it was never said or proven.). Season 1 is based on the first 2 volumes of Sandman. Volume 1 "Preludes & Nocturnes" and Volume 2 "The Doll's House". You can find them for sale at any large book store, worth buying and reading.
Are ur video’s uncut as well with full length by chance
Well I don’t wanna incriminate ourselves, so I’ll just say.. maybe 😉👍 - John
If u really consider it, death gave dream a life long friend. That is such a big sister thing to do
Great reaction as usual. Always thoughtful and insightful. This was a redeeming episode for me and yes it was like two episodes in one, but I think that has to do with the fact that it's being drawn directly from the comics. There's some deep concepts going on there as well. Not just with death, but with Hobs as well and my question at this point was "Why would desire and dream be at odds? Is it just the personalities of the individuals or is it deeper than that regarding their jobs?" Guess we'll just have to wait and find out.
Thank you!! Can't wait to find out more!!
I love dropping the fun fact that Hob Gadling is played by Ferdinand Kingsley, son of Sir Ben Kingsley
I just learned he is Ben Kinsleys son and damn so good
Seeing your comment here is the first time I heard that fact, but now I can totally recognize it in his face
Death has always been my favorite sibling of the Endless. The casting was brilliant and she really did bring everything you feel from the comic version of her to life. I'm hoping Sandman does well enough that we may get Death's spin-off stories. The High Cost of Living was an integral piece of literature for this young goth girl in the 90's. Edit* I'm in the Hob camp. If I was given the choice of immortality, I would probably take it because there is so much, so much to life and progress and humanity that we never really get to experience in our short mortal lives.
it was just influential to this goth boi in the early 90s as well...now almost 50 it still effects me
Also part of the Hob camp. All my life I've always been the only one who says "I wouldn't mind being immortal, sure" every time the topic comes up between friends and family, so getting to see Hob's perception on this and capturing what I think all of us who agree with him share is really magnificent.
@@zavs350 Did you mean you wouldn't "mind" being immortal?
@@HuntingViolets yup! Missed that. Thanks, I’ll edit it.
Hob was actually grading papers as a history teacher when Dream visited him in the Inn. I find this very funny as he's immortal so he'd know everything about it as he was THERE
I’m not sure that’s actually canon, it’s a popular interpretation of what he’s doing though.
@@fraelikkriil830 Neil Gaiman confirmed it was canon on his Tumblr :) They actually thought of a different reunion scene between Hob and Dream, with Dream popping up during one of Hob's course in his university, but settled on the one we got in the pub in the end
He probably also thought it was his moral duty to help people learn from history. He knows what it was like to be swept up in an amoral fad like slavery and realize how evil it was. Such a valuable perspective.
I don’t know if you guys noticed but one of the “exceptions” that Death has was “Mad Hettie”. The old woman that knew Morpheus who claimed she was over 200 years old. She was in the 2nd episode.
That was my favorite reference. I did a double take when watching that part in this episode and had to rewind to make sure I didn't hear it wrong.
"The Sunless lands are far away and the journey is hard. Most of us will be glad for the company of a friend... at the end I am there with them. I am holding their hands and they are holding mine." This is my favorite part of that dialog. Death as a friend is one of my favorite iterations.
I love watching reactions to this episode. People see Sam's death and are like "Honeymoon? That's so depressing." and I just think, "Wait for the next one."
same i feel a bit of a villian for loving it.
I rewatched this episode after my grandma died. It was very comforting.
"Most of us will be glad for the company of a friend" ... I agree, it was very comforting!! - John
I saw this five and a half years after my husband died. Still comforting. I found myself hoping he did meet her.
Oh, yay! Already on Ep 6..... 🌹
(Fun fact: the first segment is a totally faithful, panel-to-panel adaptation of how it went down in the graphic novel/comics... that bench conversation's an iconic moment for many Sandman fans like myself and NG made sure it's gonna feel like it's lifted straight out of the page ^_^)
I just LOVE how the the 2 halves of this episode mirror each other! Notice how it starts off with a frowning Dream feeling lost and alone > then finishes up with a bit more hope in seeing Hob and with the rarest of smiles :p ... we first watch him learn (or re-learn) the meaning of DEATH, then later sees/appreciates the value of LIFE through his meetings with a human who can never die.
Another reason why this is one of my absolute favorite arcs in the series is the way Death handled that wager with Dream.... she made it sound like she did Hob a favor by granting him immortality... but what she really did was give her brother a FRIEND
That's awesome!! Definitely my favorite episode!! - John
@@JerzeyBoyz Me too... it's pretty amazing how they put it all together onscreen with full respect to the source material :)
It's fun watching these reactions as you both get so absorbed by each episode! As a long-time fan off the comic series, I just love the attention to detail & small moments.... it's like rediscovering Sandman through (four) fresh eyes 😊 ... can't w8 for the nxt upload!
haha glad you are enjoying them with us!! - John
Well... almost totally faithful. There's no "Bip!". I wanted a "Bip!". -sigh-
;-)
@@matteoscarabelli854 LOL EXACTLY.... she really should've yeeted that bread to h 😏
Ya'll are pretty good lol. Good commentary, quips, and paying attention through your jokes so that you don't miss much even if you have to say something or throw a witty line out there. Missing moments due to inattention I can tell you is up there in what can annoy viewers. Watching you 2 it doesn't seem like a problem, be able to talk and watch at the same time. It sounds easier than it is for some reactors, but you'd be surprised. Subbed and looking forward to the next one and to check out your library and see what else you guys have on tap 🤙🏽
Also nice catch on Hobb's line about learning his lesson about being caught as an immortal/going broke so he had started stashing money away all over the world to prevent detection.
Thank You!! We try our best not to miss anything lol, can be tough when trying to keep the video entertaining while also paying attention lol
Fun fact: If you didn't catch it, Hob is grading papers at the end. He ended up becoming a... history teacher! Haha! Isn't that just the best job for someone who's lived so long? xD If you remember what he said, he said he always keeps making the same mistakes despite living so long. Like he doesn't learn. So after trying to money, fame, instead now he helps other know history so that maybe they can do things better. So that in 100 years, maybe things might be better : )
One thing I’ve always loved are the background conversations are the same as happened in the previous 600 years - “are you hunting for rabbits again vicar” same joke as “are you hunting for rabbits again friar” that we heard in 1389
Imagine being Hob and doing your damnedest not to ruin the punchline after a while.
This is one of the best episodes in television I've ever seen, period. You don't even really need to have watched ANY of the other Sandman stories to get it, it would work as two short films with almost zero changes necessary. It's a beautiful piece of art, both these two original comics and the adaptation.
My favorite episode. Love both Death's part and Hob's.
Two of the most popular stories, between two darker ones. Everyone misses Chaucer in the first pub scene, but they always get Shakespeare. Even Lushing Lou was based on a real person. They couldn't use John, so they lifted Johanna from this story, and the modern one is named after her.
Fun fact about Death. She visits everybody twice. She's the first person everybody sees when they're born. And then when they die. She bookends everybody's life.
Why would she see them at birth? Literally doesnt make sense and i have no clue where you got that from.
@@nelsondnazariotorres8732 I got that from the comic book.
@@nelsondnazariotorres8732 she also represents life as well
My Favorite episode
Same here!!! - John
same 💜
Did you guys miss the point of their conversation about Slavery.
this is probably my favourite episode of the whole show. i absolutely adore this portrayal of death (not only is she super sweet and comforting and brought me to tears, but kirby howell-baptiste is one of the most gorgeous human beings i've ever seen), i love the dynamic between her and dream, AND i love hob's whole story & dynamic w dream. this episode was just wins upon wins for me.
As the camera focuses in on Hobb at the pub in 1989, someone in the background is making the same joke about "hunting for rabbits" as is made in 1389, except he uses the term vicar instead of friar.
I keep commenting on people's posts of this episode. Death actually didn't always like her job, in fact she hated it for a very long time until she got the idea to spend one day every century as a mortal and then reap herself. After she started doing this she saw the beauty in what she does, what she has to do.
Netflix just posted the deleted scene where Death tells this story.
This is my favorite episode...
And yeah Steve, Tom Sturridge does look like Ian Somerhalder.
It was controversial to cast a black woman to play Death, because many fans wanted the classic skinny, white, goth girl. For me, judging purelly by visuals, I think Death being black is even cooler! Everything about her is black, now even her skin.
People that were decapitated on the guillotine (which was a fast and surgical decapitation rather then previous attempts that usually require multiple blows) were apparently aware of their state until they finally died of oxygen deprivation. So I would suggest a decapitated Hob head would still be quite aware and alive, but otherwise quite helpless.
I read you're still conscious for 7 seconds after being decapitated and that sounds like a really long time.
I love the attention to detail in this series. Small things you would hardly notice but added in anyway. Like the same joke being told in the background in 1989 as well as in 1389, or the fact that Hob was grating papers when Morphius walked in, showing that he's a teacher now, most likely a history teacher.
This episode is one of my favorite episodes and adaptations in recent TV I have watched. Death is just amazing. and Dream & Hob relationship is right up there with Crowley and Aziraphale from Good Omens, same vibes.
As a hospice worker, I can assure you that this depiction of "death" is how we hospice workers see ourselves, and we are definitely the most "positive, up-beat" people you will ever find 😂 I loved your reaction! Thanks for sharing with us! ❤
forever in love with this episode and Hobs 🥺💜
This was my favourite episode
The timing of the Dream and Hob dates is a little different from the comics, in the comics, Dream was captured for 70 years so he makes the date in time.
in the series, it's 100 years so he missed it for more angst. and the year is present time 2022.
this has to be one of my fave episodes of the show!
Head thing totally applicable to another character in the comics. so, funny. Also, Hob pops up several more times in the comics, I'd expect to see him again.
Hey guys. Are you guys gonna start Wednesday (Netflix) soon? It is super popular right now. All the reactors are watching it now. Might be cool if you guys did it too. If you have time 👍🏻🖤
Our schedule is pretty busy right now but anything is always possible in the future!!
The only thing they cut that I wish was there was death telling *spoiler* “you got what everyone gets. You got a lifetime.” But overall, it was amazingly done.
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If there was anyone who would be in a park, moping and pigeon feeding, it would definitely be Morpheus. 😂😂 Right after the Franklin reveal of Morpheus being her brother, the tone of Dream's voice is entirely "I'm minding my own business and still I'm getting roasted by my sister."
Vampire Diaries is really good. The Originals also pretty good. Think both shows still have a huge following.
Heh. Oddly, you'll find out the answer to some of your musings.
And for every answer you get, you'll probably have even more questions. Whether or not you ever get the answers to those questions will depend on how many seasons of the show they do. I'm guessing it will take at least 4 seasons to cover all the major story lines of the comics. Some of your (future) questions will be answered in Season 2, but others won't be answered until the very end. If the show doesn't last that long, you'll have to read the comics for your answers--which I recommend you do at some point regardless of how long the show lasts.
Fun fact, Neil Gaiman wrote death as he hoped it would be for him when his time came
Well, if he aged the way people generally do, it would be a different matter.
Needed a pick me up, and you two helped me reset ❤
Each summer I go to a large international furry convention in Berlin, it's a week of fun, meeting old and new friends alike from all over Europe and beyond. The last day is always super emotional, knowing you probably won't see most of them for another year at least. I managed to keep back the tears, but I still had a 12 hour bus ride ahead to get home, and I had this whole first season of Sandman ready to binge and make the time fly by. This is the episode where the tears finally came.
Mortality isn't an easy subject for anyone. For Hob its a mug game. I love the juxtaposition of the storylines. One about the end, the other about an unending life. It's beautiful storytelling.
Dude on on the left “that was disturbingly sad” while his face 🥹
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A fantastic reaction 💜
Dream in the 1300s looks like noel fuckin feilding.