Doom II - MAP20: Gotcha! (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

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  • @arpy4428
    @arpy4428 Рік тому +249

    As a kid it blew my mind seeing the Cyber Demon and Spider Mastermind fight each other for the first time, kid me went wild with headcannon about the demonic factions and the tech/zombie factions having a rift in their cooperated effort to take over earth

    • @TivonSanders
      @TivonSanders Рік тому +35

      That sounds more exciting than the standard cannon. LOL

  • @СергейМисюк-ж1к
    @СергейМисюк-ж1к Рік тому +63

    I think, demons sure run some sort of bookmaking business on this map. Two big badasses beating the living heck out of each others, while others watch, make bets and drink health bonuses.

  • @YeenMage
    @YeenMage Рік тому +124

    Sgt. Mark IV made a very good interpretation of Gotcha in his level "Eye of the Storm". Because it is the spot closest to the demon portal in the end, this part of the city is being transformed into a hellish landscape faster than the rest of the earth. Yeah, he imagined the bloody and lava pits across streets as the city streets literally cracking open due to hell's influence, and explaining the abstract nature of this place as apartment blocks and offices suffering their final transformation. He even gave a sweet interpretation that the place where the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind is infighting as a badly-damaged shopping mall.

    • @dryued6874
      @dryued6874 Рік тому +5

      Is it a part of a level pack, or is it standalone?

    • @СергейМисюк-ж1к
      @СергейМисюк-ж1к Рік тому +5

      Oh, I remember this level. Urban part of EDay is my favourite.

    • @tenhundredkills
      @tenhundredkills 4 місяці тому +2

      @@dryued6874 I know this is a old comment, but in case you're still wondering: It's in the Doom II Hell on Earth Starter Pack. It's a Brutal Doom level pack.

  • @mowerds33
    @mowerds33 Рік тому +44

    decino: "This map has all the weapons."
    The Chainsaw: "You're dead to me."

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому +6

      I actually have a Mac 130 which is the chainsaw id modeled the weapon after. I still think the game chainsaw is worthless though. My chainsaw is older than Doom is. Still runs too. I paid $89.95 for that saw.

    • @TreeAgon
      @TreeAgon Рік тому +1

      @@1pcfred that’s so cool!

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому

      @@TreeAgon it is pretty funny. I know I chuckle a bit every time I see the Doom sprite. The yellow color and the black brake are very distinctive features of that saw. The saw in Doom is a Mac 130. I still use my saw but I'm really due for a new one. I've definitely tackled trees with it above it's weight class.

    • @TreeAgon
      @TreeAgon Рік тому

      @@1pcfred for the longest time I always thought they made the doom weapon sprites handmade. How wrong I was.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому

      @@TreeAgon They made the game assets any way they could. They actually made physical models of some of the monsters. Weapons they used images they could get ahold of. The BFG 9000 is based off a toy. But then I think they doctored everything up in editing. So there's certainly hand work going on.

  • @TheKalZul
    @TheKalZul Рік тому +44

    I think it's terrorformed (geddit?) area of Earth since this structure is where the invasion is originating from as per the episode text. Makes sense to have the two leaders of the original invasion standing guard over the portal.

  • @BigMacDavis
    @BigMacDavis Рік тому +18

    I've had excellent RNG one time and the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind killed each other at the same time. Nice run, decino, see you in Nirvana, where it does not smell like teen spirit.

  • @manateeveetube
    @manateeveetube Рік тому +21

    The layout of this map is almost dreamlike. I'm in a castle! I'm in a cave! I'm in a weird metal factory thing! Now I'm in another cave! Now the factory is in the cave with me!

  • @AlexeiVoronin
    @AlexeiVoronin Рік тому +41

    One of my favorite levels - as a kid, I loved jsut going around it with the "no monsters" option - not so much because I was scared of them, but rather beause our PC at the time was a potato with 4 MB of RAM and the game tended to crash from time to time when played with monsters.
    I remember I really liked the tower near the start, the beating heart on the green pedestal, and the exit portal too - felt like jumping into the sky! I didn't even imagine the engine was capable of such things.

    • @linusgustafsson2629
      @linusgustafsson2629 Рік тому +8

      I liked it to as a kid. Though I usually played co-op and the level then featured double cyberdemons for a nice fun rocket dodge fiesta.

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV Рік тому +66

    This level's progression is very peculiar indeed.

  • @rankoinazuma6788
    @rankoinazuma6788 Рік тому +17

    *ring ring* Announcer: The following contest is scheduled for one death, and it's your main event of the night!
    *crowd erupts in cheers*
    Announcer: Introducing first, on my left, from the inner parts of the Tower of Babel, the rocketing monolith, the Cyberdemon!
    *crowd cheers*
    Announcer: to my right, from the depths of Dis, the mind behind the Earth invasion, the thickest spider momma, the Spider Mastermind!
    *crowds cheers again*

  • @SickBoyOC
    @SickBoyOC Рік тому +12

    I had the cyberdemon and spidermastermind kill each other at the same time before. It was one of the greatest things I ever witnessed in DOOM

  • @travishaselden
    @travishaselden Рік тому +8

    Happy April Fools Eve, Pumpkin Man!

  • @ihaveaweirdnotsolonguserna5270

    Plain relaxation, just keyboard sounds and the pumpkin man's peaceful voice

  • @OniMurasame
    @OniMurasame Рік тому +7

    I love all your videos. Especially the ones that talk code.
    I sometimes watch them several times. Thanks for great content my man!

  • @StoneHill777
    @StoneHill777 Рік тому +6

    Great run, the way you said gotcha at the beginning was indeed funny.

  • @Quillyik
    @Quillyik Рік тому +1

    Spider v cyber fight was such a spectacle as a kid. The sheer panic of walking in there and seeing both appear.

  • @fallingmasonry
    @fallingmasonry Рік тому +3

    Love the enthusiasm at 6:04!

  • @DoomGuy512
    @DoomGuy512 Рік тому +16

    This man is the real Doomguy on UA-cam! Great Videos Mate ! Rip And Tear !

  • @Nob1ej0n
    @Nob1ej0n Рік тому +11

    Something feels very wrong about respawning archies. Also, you made this map look a lot easier than I expected.

  • @lankymaccrazyhair264
    @lankymaccrazyhair264 Рік тому +1

    Man, it took me like a dozen attempts to beat this map in UV, and i wasn't even going for 100%. You make this game look easy, my man!

  • @ViscusLupus
    @ViscusLupus Рік тому +4

    3:42 another great solo in doom2 ost, surprisingly funky!

  • @TKWAZTX
    @TKWAZTX Рік тому +1

    I love these gameplays a lot, since the first game I have been aware of each one when I get from college.
    Keep up with the great content and quality of your videos, Decino.

  • @MuTheSlime
    @MuTheSlime Рік тому +2

    I'd say it's a pillar of demon mineral that came into existence early on, and was excavated to investigate its composition. so a pillar with tunneling and rudimentary elevators carved in later as researches bore through the thing, eventually discovering the demon teleporter inside. It's also in a pool of lava, so there's an argument to be made for it being a sorta... Demon Monolith that shot up out of the earth from some sort of hell fissure.

  • @JangianTV
    @JangianTV Рік тому +8

    Decino's all time favourite level next! 😈😈

  • @subnormality.
    @subnormality. Рік тому +4

    Wow, the chaingunner tanking that rocket at the end there. He died a hero.

  • @nathansyoutubeaccount
    @nathansyoutubeaccount Рік тому +6

    I think the stone buildings could be hell outcroppings but don't discount that the lifts could simply be representative of climbing up a hill or boulder. Like a quick vertical climb plus accommodating the gameplay first and foremost.

  • @RevenantFTS97
    @RevenantFTS97 Рік тому

    To think that a month ago the Pumpkin man was dealing with Doom 1's E4M2, and now he is about to beat DOOM 2! Incredible progress!
    Thanks very much decino for showing us that epic battle at 3:06! Not surprised the Cyberdemon won! Back in 2020, I was playing Doom 2 with fast monsters, single segment and no pistol start, this map took me many attempts. Whenever I got into this room, Cyberdemon always beat the shit out of the Spiderdemon.
    Anyway, impressive playthrough! And the sillyness at the intermission screen is totally welcome and a nice touch as well!

  • @TivonSanders
    @TivonSanders Рік тому +1

    1:21 I've played Doom 2 pretty much all my life, and did not know that secret was there. Wow.

  • @Olek54321
    @Olek54321 Рік тому +1

    That was quick :D
    1:20 father John Romero created that hahaha
    in my opinion this is one of the most iconic Doom2 maps, because of that fight between cyberdemon and spidermama. I think Cyberdemon wins most of the time :D
    Love the soundtrack in this map, it's awesome

  • @tormuse2916
    @tormuse2916 Рік тому

    1:20 Huh... I've played this level dozens of times over the decades and never knew about that secret. You learn something new every day. :)

  • @SkullKingofCarpathia
    @SkullKingofCarpathia Рік тому +3

    Nice to see that Gotcha didn't get you. As for the natural/vs demon made/vs human made, I think it's human made, but corrupted by demons as the text reads,
    "You are at the corrupt heart of the city, surrounded by the corpses of your enemies. You see no way to destroy the creatures' entryway through this side, so you clench your teeth and plunge through it.
    There must be a way to close it on the other side. What do you care if you've got to go through Hell to get to it?"

  • @jnechaevskaya
    @jnechaevskaya Рік тому +2

    Thank you, decino! Amazing to watch, just as always! 🤟

  • @chriswaudby1084
    @chriswaudby1084 Рік тому +6

    Excellent great map this one I'm happy to say ch as always👌

  • @iguana9173
    @iguana9173 Рік тому +12

    2:54 I didn’t know that door opened from that side I thought it was always locked until you hit the switch next to the spider mastermind. I’m excited for the next level I don’t think it’s that stinky you handled playing it the last time on the recreated from memory version. At least we’ll get to see the Hungarian flag 🇭🇺 room properly. There is 3 soul spheres 1 megasphere and 2 mega armors in this level.

  • @adinocc2042
    @adinocc2042 Рік тому

    Thanks for making my day, Decino!
    Keep up the good work!

  • @brandonbailey7686
    @brandonbailey7686 Рік тому +3

    I'm looking forward seeing you play map 22 that's going to be a challenge with the chain gunners

  • @thalligator016
    @thalligator016 Рік тому +3

    Wow, didn't even know that gotcha is a Romero map. And it actually has a SSG! My mind has been blown

  • @shopo6847
    @shopo6847 Рік тому +11

    This map is iconic.
    Good and original design.
    Challenging but doable.
    Good atmosphere.
    Epic battle: Spider Mastermind vs Cyber Demon
    Amazing music (message for the archvile)

  • @Geniraul
    @Geniraul Рік тому +1

    This map is legendary. Still one of the most iconic maps, it never gets old!

  • @georgeheilman885
    @georgeheilman885 Рік тому +2

    I presumed the majority of the buildings were either made by the demons, as they are next to their entryway, or if they did exist before, were reshaped to fit Hell's aesthetics.
    One of the best looking of the city levels, especially for exploration.

  • @lukebehrendsbro.
    @lukebehrendsbro. Рік тому +7

    Gotcha! This map was awesome! Nightmare Mode could be in pain, but thankfully SuperCharge & MegaArmors & MegaSpheres oh my's! 😮Almost done with this game I say. Can't wait for next video. 😄

  • @ardag1439
    @ardag1439 Рік тому +3

    1:54 Was that a double inhale? First time I've seen anybody use that tactic.

  • @eduardodiaz9942
    @eduardodiaz9942 Рік тому +1

    You ought to put Guile's theme while the Cyberdemon and the Spidermama fight. As we alll know, Guile's theme goes with everything.

  • @Moleoflands
    @Moleoflands Рік тому

    @5:50 Probably would have lived, but the chaingunner so nearly got you to face rocket with that respawn lol

  • @fellow_doomer
    @fellow_doomer Рік тому +13

    this map really did get me!

  • @empresscarrie6230
    @empresscarrie6230 Рік тому +1

    1:31 decino chan: UWAAAH! ~~~

  • @avvn9331
    @avvn9331 Рік тому +1

    MIDI is nice this looks like a watch tower or outpost in the start, cool map

  • @brandonschwertley2723
    @brandonschwertley2723 Рік тому +1

    Cyber Demon and Spider Mastermind fight finishes
    My inner child: AGAIN!!!

  • @victoriouswinner7745
    @victoriouswinner7745 Рік тому +4

    THIS SONG FIRE!!! WE GETTING OUT THE DOOM WIT DIS ONE!!! 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Nuclearstomp
    @Nuclearstomp Рік тому

    Nirvana more like uh uh umm uh Nightmarevana!
    I got nothing. By the way, props for showing the cyberdemon and spider-mastermind fight lol. Always fun.

  • @cheesyweezy866
    @cheesyweezy866 Рік тому

    that "gotcha!" at the beginning was just the cutest thing

  • @DeltaV287
    @DeltaV287 Рік тому +1

    I always felt that the Spider Mastermind got gypped on this map because they're kept separated. If they can get closer together, the Spider wins a lot more often.

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob Рік тому

    I used to love watching the Cyber/Spider monster showdown. I can't imagine doing this level on Nightmare where they could regenerate again!

  • @Gencoil
    @Gencoil Рік тому

    "I'm not sure what this building is supposed to be", the majority of classic Doom level designs in a nutshell.
    If I had to guess, this is some kind of industrial facility that was fused with a demon fortress. That little cave structure you were talking about might be a watch tower.

  • @popenderaza
    @popenderaza Рік тому

    Looking forward to watch decino playing his most favourite map in doom.

  • @vinamratarnekar1698
    @vinamratarnekar1698 Рік тому

    Oh man your voice is sick. I can understand your problem. I am also in the same condition from a week.🤧

  • @Batakanta
    @Batakanta Рік тому +9

    "They can go fight again... actually no" - Good Ending

  • @Arlan64
    @Arlan64 Рік тому +2

    It would have been even funnier if you had projected yourself shooting a rocket at the wall to fall into the hole and finish the level, I don't know if you had already done it once in the first Doom but in any case I personally love this map ^^

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth Рік тому

    I don't know if I've ever heard decino so excited before!

  • @HuxleysShaggyDog
    @HuxleysShaggyDog Рік тому

    I woke up feeling exhausted. Barely wanted to leave bed. Did it anyway.
    NIGHTMARE GOTCHA!

  • @Chozo_Ghost
    @Chozo_Ghost Рік тому +1

    decino at 6:11: Ha-ha, hoo-hoo, hee-hee
    YT auto-captions: [Music]

  • @TheBrutalDoomer
    @TheBrutalDoomer Рік тому +2

    I just thought of it now - resurrection by arch-vile and by timer should be mutually exclusive - every tick one always goes before the other, so resurrecting the same monster twice or crashing the game is impossible. I mean, it should be 😅

  • @EnemyAce88
    @EnemyAce88 Рік тому

    This level is just so cool.
    To answer your question, I think the tower and everything else here was built by humans, but then the demons came and took it over. This level is the outpost between the human world and Hell.
    The only drawback to your playthrough is that there are some areas of this map that you don't need to explore.

  • @xMrGreeneJeansx
    @xMrGreeneJeansx Рік тому +1

    It was this level that clued me in on my first playthrough that the final boss was definitely not a cyber/mastermind.
    I'm curious though how often the mastermind wins against the cyber without fast monsters. Seems like it's about 50/50.

  • @1pcfred
    @1pcfred Рік тому

    Gotcha! "It's got everything. " --decino

  • @Skelly57
    @Skelly57 Рік тому

    Nirvana being tomorrow is perfect, the ultimate April Fool's prank: having fun on that map lmao

  • @lhfirex
    @lhfirex Рік тому +1

    Gotcha! is one of those levels even a casual player who's only finished Doom 2 once should remember.

  • @devorezz
    @devorezz Рік тому +1

    The music for this map is weird. It sounds so gloomy at first and then suddenly a guitar riff. I love it.

  • @rayft1422
    @rayft1422 Рік тому

    Nicely done. Just completed this on UV with fast monsters.. Though no matter how many times I tried I could not get the Mastermind and the CyberDemon to in-fight.. Have I missed something ? And I do love how you state "easy peasy map" on Nightmare ... LMAO maybe for you !! Again cheers for the video !

    • @decino
      @decino  Рік тому +1

      What source port are you using? You're not shooting at the Spider or Cyber before they get to infight do you?

    • @rayft1422
      @rayft1422 Рік тому

      @@decino Hi and thanks for your reply. It is a little strange. I am playing PRBoom+ with default compatibility. I have had them both infighting before when playing without fast monsters enabled… I did not shot either of them, but they both seem intent on killing me only :) Dodging rockets while the mastermind was shooting the cyber demon in the back tring to get me .. I had wondered if fast monsters enabled would have made a difference ? I will try again with out FAST to see if it behaves once I get home. Again thanks for replying.. Oh and thanks for showing me the shootable Pink wall again, I had forgot and was wondering how to get the BFG..
      Edit: done a iddqd and stood for a while taking hits with fast and "eventually" they did started infighting... he took quite some damage first.. So it seems that I could not last long enough for the mastermind to inflick enough damage 🤭 Thanks Decino and I look forward to your next adventure !!

    • @decino
      @decino  Рік тому +1

      Oh, PrBoom's default comp setting is really funky and shouldn't be used. Stick to Doom II's complevel.

    • @rayft1422
      @rayft1422 Рік тому

      @@decino Ah... Thank you ! laughingly I do remember seeing your comp level video in my feed a little while ago. Skipped it as I thought it was all working OK.. Think I will watch that one next.. 😆 Awesome !

  • @jrock718
    @jrock718 Рік тому

    Nice run pumpkin man

  • @Lagoonatic8T88
    @Lagoonatic8T88 Рік тому +1

    I've been playing this on Nightmare as you upload each level and I look forward to Nirvana. I could not ever get past the stupid room with the imps surrounding you and lowering walls. I HATE IT

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Рік тому +1

      There's no shame in running away to fight another day.

    • @tornado100able
      @tornado100able Рік тому +1

      Are you also collecting 100% of the itens and secrets?!

    • @Lagoonatic8T88
      @Lagoonatic8T88 Рік тому

      @@tornado100able absolutely! But there aren't hardly any tough items before the imp room 😅

  • @ridethelapras
    @ridethelapras Рік тому

    3:45 Those are some bitchin' guitar licks!

  • @jonbourgoin182
    @jonbourgoin182 Рік тому +1

    "ha ha, hoohoo, hee hee"
    - *Decino, 2023*

  • @proosee
    @proosee Рік тому +1

    It's a "stock" map although, it is so quirky and innovative, I love it

  • @doomrevolver8387
    @doomrevolver8387 Рік тому +1

    1:08 mother nature obviously

  • @makhauser42
    @makhauser42 Рік тому +2

    (possible) release of Nirvana on April 1 is the most ironic joke ever crafted by the fate. I found it hard, it's hard to find. Oh well, whatever, never mind
    P.S. That multi-level level lift structure is definitely not natural. Nature can't create such elevators, neither can demons. It might have been a rock before, deliberately crafted afterwards by humankind, like the one behind your starting point. Just the observation tower? A ball-buster if you are slow? The distraction of the real duel of this map (aka anxiety and the teleporter exit moving down to the hitscan heck)?

  • @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera
    @RetroGamingWithEdgarRivera Рік тому +1

    Good old gotcha this map is well known because of the final showdown of spidermomma versus cybersexyboi aka cyberBooty. Another then that is an average map in Ultra violence, of course on nightmare is pretty decent at least not as boring as last time. Also I'm quite excited the nightmare difficulty on the hellish levels which is going to be interesting to see how the difficult it is, although I see them as a kid but I haven't played those levels on nightmare in a while. I have to see them again to see what they will be like.

  • @Brentastrophe
    @Brentastrophe Рік тому +1

    Hell elevator apartments is what i assume that building in the lava is

  • @eldandraken4850
    @eldandraken4850 Рік тому

    This map makes my head go hurt. I don't know why i cant wrap my head around it

  • @mrbazooka6635
    @mrbazooka6635 Рік тому +1

    My favorite map👍

  • @dotcomgamingd5564
    @dotcomgamingd5564 Рік тому

    Now that you mention it, the structure could be a place for mining

  • @aquepaique
    @aquepaique Рік тому +1

    The first Doom 2 lava level yeeeee

  • @reptongeek
    @reptongeek Рік тому

    I always cheer the Spider Mastermind personally. Support the Underdog!! Sometimes she does win

  • @gothicsage955
    @gothicsage955 Рік тому

    This was my favorite level as a kid on uv

  • @michaelandreipalon359
    @michaelandreipalon359 11 місяців тому

    Hellish reality warping really made this map, a lot of us can tell.
    Whatta buncha Arch-Viles. Thank heavens you gave them a fair amount of "messages".
    3:00: Pshaw! Doom is as anime as Avatar: The Last Airbender... or maybe I should pick the Fleischer Superman theatrical shorts.
    The plot has returned for this:
    *"You are at the corrupt heart of the city, surrounded by the corpses of your enemies. You see no way to destroy the creatures' entryway on this side, so you clench your teeth and punch through it.*
    *There must be a way to close it on the other side. What do you care if you've got to go through Hell to get to it?"*

  • @ianrocha6854
    @ianrocha6854 Рік тому +1

    Was it Sandy Petersen who said Doom's architecture are basically some "abstract kind of Hell"? Probably not even the exact phrase. Any clues? thanks

  • @TheRogueWolf
    @TheRogueWolf Рік тому

    This level looks cool (and has an awesome infighting situation) but navigating it is a pain and a half.

  • @estefencosta1835
    @estefencosta1835 Рік тому

    This map has the strangest and most obscure switches/secrets in Doom2 IMO.

  • @xxsugarsparkxx
    @xxsugarsparkxx Рік тому

    Nirvana and then Catacombs. Good luck marine.

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola Рік тому

    Since that "cave" at the first minute in featured teleporters and we humans cannot make teleporters like that, it follows that it must have been either natural or aliens. And we know it's never aliens. Fermi paradox and all that. Therefore it must be natural, by process of elimination. Ask Sherlock. :P
    Gotcha! has always been a classic, if only because of Cybi vs Mastermind.

  • @britishexplorer4437
    @britishexplorer4437 Рік тому

    Gotcha huh, I have never got to play this map.
    Maybe rome-ro's building habits are from too much inspiration from the city of Rome. Anyways nice vide

  • @TheDgmccool
    @TheDgmccool Рік тому

    This was intense

  • @thoumi96
    @thoumi96 Рік тому

    TNT after doom 2 and the Big boy Plutonia! \m/

  • @IfNedWereHere
    @IfNedWereHere Рік тому

    Near the end there the plasma shooting off center like my piss stream

  • @superstev1790
    @superstev1790 Рік тому

    The battle of the ages is here!

  • @victoriqueMoe
    @victoriqueMoe Рік тому

    oh boy, my fave map is next

  • @mattj2217
    @mattj2217 Рік тому +1

    What's up with the chaingun sprite at 2:34?

    • @decino
      @decino  Рік тому +3

      Standing in a poorly lit sector. The muzzle flash is full bright whereas the chaingun is not.

  • @matheusrios4223
    @matheusrios4223 Рік тому

    So there was an item in the arena where the cyberdemon and spider mastermind fight. I always forget this soulsphere exists. Next map, our hero will ascend to Nirvana as he falls into madness that is Heck in his journey to protect Earth from true Nightmare! Go Pumpkin Man :D

  • @lucamiddelbos7412
    @lucamiddelbos7412 Рік тому

    Well gg, great anime battle. The cybery demani vs spideru masterumindus demani.

  • @Silverflower351
    @Silverflower351 Рік тому +1

    Hey decino Will you try doom 64 100% all secrets, also doom 3 , 2016 and eternal?

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      @decino  Рік тому +1

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    • @Silverflower351
      @Silverflower351 Рік тому

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