IS Y2K DEAD? (or evolving?)
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- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
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0:00 intro
0:43 what is y2k
3:51 y2k revival
7:05 a post y2k world
this video is about the y2k trend and how it is evolving specifically in fashion and culture. topics talked about in this video: cyber grunge, margiela, serial experiments of lain, mcbling, wong kar wai, semetary, ken carson, tap out, affliction, ghost in the shell, deaftones, nu metal, shoegaze, mud wash, le grande blue, if six was nine, deathnote, tik tok, southpole, ed hardy, evisu, rocawear, jnco, jean paul gaultier - Навчання та стиль
Absolutely bizarre to me as someone who was into anime and cinema way before I was into fashion and visual arts that Lain and Wong Kar Wai are such a big deal in mainstream media now, whereas 5 to 7 years ago you really had to search for media related to those works. Fascinating, and really cool.
i relate to this heavily. i never would have expected this. i remember having to find obscure torrents to even watch lain while in high school. i think its really cool though and it makes me happy. regardless of how genuine the appreciation of the show and themes truly are. so many people who are in similiar position to me or you just seem to be bitter and its hard for me to understand.
@XxXhEav3nbeL0wXxX lain was so hard to torrent to 7 or 8 years ago I watched it. Really agree with u here and bizarre duvet is such a huge song. Tiktok such a powerful tool fr
Lain was hugely popular on 4chan throughout the mid-late 2010s. Its entry intro into the mainstream started there 💯
@@12Arrancar ya man thats how i know about it 💀
This video essay is completely misconstrued and opinion based. Without any actual knowledge or experience in the brands, genres and trends that existed.
it’s evolving. when aesthetics come back people tend to add their own things to it.
Bruh you totally missed Vaporwave which adopted these aesthetics waaaaay before hyperpop in like 2011.
Vaporwave was more 80s meets 2000s. I wouldn’t say it was Y2K. Vaporwave was going for the neon light 80s aesthetic.
Hyperpop goes way more back that Vaporwave and they aren't even similar at all in aesthetics ,like the fuck .
Vaporwave was indeed before hyperpop. The genesis of vaporwave was in 2008-2010, with 18 Carat Affair and Daniel Lopatin being the pioneers of the genre. Hyperpop did not come about until a little later, in 2013. And at that point it was not referred to as hyperpop, at least not popularly. The first hyperpop artists and DJs labeled their music as nightcore, bubblegum bass, or PC music if they were affiliated with AG Cook. I didn't start seeing the term hyperpop to describe the genre until 2015-ish. And early vaporwave visuals definitely did take inspiration from y2k aesthetics. Things like geocities websites, PS2 graphics, chunky 2000s computers, 90s anime, and early CGI were actually more prominent back then than the 80s neons it's known for today, but as the genre evolved the visuals gradually became more 80s-informed. Especially as very 80s-inspired sister genres like synthwave, outrun, etc. became more popular.
@@WerewolfCat890 damn real informative tanks
@@WerewolfCat890 Vaporwave was more 2000s mixed with 80s. I remember because vaporwave just used a lot nostalgia for visuals. Hyperpop was around before vaporwave but you are right, it wasn’t called hyperpop. Now we call it hyperpop.
Lets get this straight for everyone to know. All of those MMA Brands (Affliction, Xtreme Couture, etc.) and Hip Hop Brands (Ecko, Southpole, Enyce, Coogi, True Religion, etc.) aren’t Emo Grunge style.
No one back then was wearing Ecko with a pair of Jncos, Mainly because Jncos aren’t even Hip Hop. Same goes for people wearing Affliction and calling it grunge, IT ISNT GRUNGE.
People gotta start realizing that Y2K isnt any of this new Tik Tok style that people are wearing now. This is what MMA Fans and Hip Hop orientated people were wearing back in the day most of yall Grunge kids were wearing skinny jeans and henley shirts back in the 2000s not Baggy clothes and MMA Shirts.
Would you say jncos (pre-tribals) are more aligned w skate and nu metal culture, or what's the overlap there?
@@rachelmalmin8007 Jncos are definitely more aligned with Skate culture, rave culture, and some nu metal culture
You gotta realize that your perspective on what y2k fashion really was doesn’t match alot of other peoples perception. you may remember it as that certain style and someone else might remember it differently. Baggy jeans were also really popular during the time ( especially in the hiphop scene like you mentioned!) brands like southpole, akademiks etc were the shit. Also consider the fact that the y2k resurgence today is combining those trends back from the 2000s and modernizing it to the current era. So it isnt gonna be completely accurate.
it was the end of subculture/rise of the internet era so kids who were into alt, emo or hip hop had many overlaps, esp when covered by mainstream media. even back in mid/late 90s MTV targeted both young rock and hip hop audiences, which then peaked in nu metal. skaters were bringing elements from any street culture. being alt was generally a more unifying thing in the 2000s so its only natural this gen blends it all naturally. min-maxing proportions was def not a thing tho lol
But its nu metal
y2k is just vaporwave for zoomers. For aesthetics, id look into tread and surge music. Cloud rappers like the members of drain gang, hollowwatersesh, jpegmafia and such have a strong y2k influence.
Certain offshoots of vaporwave started sampling 2000s songs circa 2015. The frutiger aero aesthetic was becoming more recognised, the best known example would be far side virtual. And there's also what pc music were doing at around the same time. The y2k thing has been building for a long time, you could say it's overexposed now but I don't think it's over yet because there are still so many untapped niches within that era. The best way to be original is usually to mix eras anyway, and not just become a walking pastiche of a 2000s skater or whatever
Nostalgia for a past era happens to all generations, at this point we can predict there's going to be another trend later on for the 2010's
@@luispatricio4589 2014 tumblr aesthetic is already a thing on tiktok and now I see a bunch of kids come on tumblr to curate 2014 tumblr type blogs and complaining about how they wish they were a teenager during that time.
Drain Gang don't have y2k influence bro 🤣
@@blk0ut_ you clearly haven't listened and analyzed their entire discography.
This documentary really only talks about the white lens, where’s the conversation on hip hop’s influence in that style, and the merging of hip hop and rock, aka linkin park, one of the biggest bands of that era
he talked out ken semetary and draingang but it wasnt enough. todays y2k aesthetic is rootedin subgenres of trap, nu metal bands, 2005 and later gothic music and midwestern emo it really is a amalgamation of what teens thşnk the 2000s was, and i do too.
I still find it funny how these kids are now saying that baggy clothes and all these brands are skater or "grunge" stuff when obviously the people who first popularized baggy clothes were east coast rappers during the early 90s, lots of those brands were also made for the streets and designed by people closely associated with graffitti and other elements of hip hop/hood culture. Nothing bad with appreciating other things but they're seriously taking the credit from what's called "black culture" with them being the true pioneers of the basis for the Y2K style way back when oversized clothes made people laugh at you or avoid you thinking you were a thug.
Then again, it's not everything as there's a clear goth, nu metal and *insert alt stuff* influence there in a lot of the outfits we're seeing now, but come on that Jesse Pinkman fit was a classic wigger outfit lol, you don't skate in that, guys in chicago were pushing D while dressed like that.
@@shadowmaster452 so basically mislabeling
gen x trends?
yeah like when I think of 00s fashion I think of early streetwear brands, hip hop/ bling, crunk and electro pop and a general sense of eclectic-ness. cyber grunge to me seems more like a pastiche of a memory rather than a proper encapsulation.
not to mention limp bizkit apparently (🍫⭐️🐟)
The "counter y2k" you're referring to is a style that started during the "McBling" era (2003-2007) then took off during the late 2000s when 90s grunge and nostalgia culture in general started to take off and boom.
I was looking for this comment!!!
That makes sense but didn’t grunge really start coming back around like 2011-2012?
@@kkrezagang4606 it wasn't popular until that time, but it was around a few years earlier. All trends work that way. In fact, McBling started making an appearance in 2001- long before it became a trend in 03.
Going into the 2030s i predict high end 2010s fashion mixed with dark dystopian apocalyptic cyberpunk themes, think mad max mixed with the matrix, we're already seeing the start of it through fashion (leather bomber jackets, worn and rugged look), music (2093, Utopia, vultures), technology (apple vision pro), cars, hairstyles
100%. until eventually we'll all start to look like the embodiment of an alien
To be fair Most of us young millennials and down to young gen z have been the ones starting these trends for a while. Im totally cool with it
Yes I agree
20 year fashion cycle yes i hope 2030 and 2010
As a mid 20 something I am somewhat proud that the aesthetics i grew up with had a resurgence in the spotlight. It definitely wasn't the cool kid aesthetic it is now but the clothes were largely cheap and plentiful back then, probably why it has such a bad reputation, nu-metal culture aside. Couture brands have definitely improved upon that reputation though and people are just more aware of what they're wearing, especially for tiktok so the pieces don't look necessarily as bad as they used to. Keep in mind it was largely unkempt teens, kids, or manchildren who wore this back then when "metrosexual" was a term, axe body spray was at its zenith, and being "weird" or into online subcultures was indicative of social exclusion.
I think the 2000's resurgence is going to last a bit longer than expected and there will probably be some aesthetic mainstays because of it. imo, late 2000's early 2010s emo is going to be the next subculture trend alongside an ironic take on rawr xd randumm!!11! internet meme humor. IRL sillhouettes are going to dominate and colors will go in a more conservative direction.
I'm 32 and I feel the same way. Its cool to see the 2000s getting some much deserved love after having been shat on by the 90s and 2010s( arguably the worst decade of the last 50 years when you really dig below the surface).
I'm late 20's and I agree but I don't think it will have the staying power unfortunately
indie sleaze and boho chic are coming back rn. 2013-2014 shit
There IS already a "rawring20's" hashtag on tiktok, and compilations on youtube, so you are not wrong, indeed, the scene culture had a revival, so, maybe your predictions could be right.
@@kirillholt2329 I feel like it kinda will, just like how goths and punks influenced us during our skater/emo years. The styles are still very much there, if anything we amplified it by branching out with it
I think the problem is that most people are trying to hard with that trend. The pants is on the ankle and they act bored like Im not even trying wich look cringe.
I like it because it’s crazy too think that 2000 is about quarter century ago. 80s and 90s were distinct eras but early 2000s was like a whole new transformation and we’re just an extension of that now..y2k aesthetic is just going back to the roots of where we are now
Yes most definitely
i am 24, turning 25 this year. and i love this style so much. i barely remember it when i was younger when it was happening, and now as an adult (with adult money) i can now fully embrace all of this, juicy couture, and other things i couldn’t have experienced for myself then
absolutely agree with your comment me personally i am younger than you I'm only 20 but i feel fascinated specifically by the influence of punk and rap music and mma and wrestling that i witnessed as a child but couldn't partake in due to monetary reasons and the fact that i live in Italy where this clothes were and are still hard to find so now that i got a little bit of money i can buy from the us or asia and get the clothes that i want 😁
i hate y2k, i hate tiktok, i wont explain
This is valid
exactly
It’s for dumb people
Omg so different, so unique
Very unique take
As a 21 year old who had an older brother and cousins that perfectly captured the aesthetic of this new Y2K era it’s kinda cool and comforting knowing it ain’t lost.
Honestly if I was 25 I would totally be on board y2k but I'm 29 now with more of a minimalist goth aesthetic. Death note was such a huge influence in my life, ya'll can't tell me Mello doesn't just scream Chromehearts
I would kill to have 1% of Mello’s drip, unfortunately all the clothes he wears are 1k$+. I can afford it but I’ll be broke if I wanted his clothes 😭
I'm 31 now and I ditched the skinny jeans etc a couple years ago. But I'm going for more of a baggy but clean and minimalist almost Japanese spin on it to make it more age appropriate... But then again even up to 40 y/o's back then were wearing baggy stuff
@@gus2nYohji aesthetic is very good for this
@@servalkorion686 thanks will check it out
@@gus2njk
I think it’s super cool to see stuff like this coming back, even if I’m not into it.
It’s interesting to think about how we may see something as cool, despite not growing up through that era. Ie. your point on the newer generation (2010s) being into y2k OR the 90s kids that may be into 70s or 80s aesthetics
We may think it’s cool, but people that actually had the exposure during that era may feel the cringe from outfits looking like cosplay
Evolving. At least here in the east coast, Y2K seems to be more big then ever. I saw 5 JNCO kids at goodwill in a little gang along with all of this people with Jessie Pinkman fits. I don’t think it’s quite done just yet but I believe workwear is on its way very soon
At the risk of sounding like a hipster, I started dressing like it was the 2000's again back in 2017-18 when pretty much nobody else was. Now I'm more into an early 90's blue collar look with a dad hat, tucked flannel shirt, relaxed fit jeans and steel toe work boots. I'm turning 30 this year and I feel like this is an appropriate look for my age.
There were people that just never stopped dressing like that and you can differentiate the ones from 95-05 from the ones that came in 2016 and so on.
En el 2017 y 18 más o menos ya se hizo presente con los e-boys/e-girl
You’re not wrong that’s what people were doing
Personally as a millennial this era and the couple years after were during the most formative years of my life as far as coming into my own personal style and as a lifelong goth/skater kid who used to get bullied for dressing alternative it's always weird seeing your old style come back as a big mass marketed trend today that everyone hops on for a little while and then discards when the next thing comes along. Doubly annoying when people judge you for being "off trend" when it's literally something you've always been into and they are the ones just chasing whatever is pushed on them.
That said, from a design and fashion enthusiast perspective of course I do really love seeing some of the new takes and y2k inspired designs we have now today and I would be lying if I said I didn't incorporate a few of them into my own personal aesthetic. I love the neo-tribal stuff and the resurgence of metallics and blobjects for instance. I'm also really into the cyberpunk/cybergoth/hacker aesthetics so the last few years have been amazing for that. The baggy cargo pants and shapeless silhouettes however are one trend ima leave back in my childhood.
Also, just gonna throw it out there that McBling is clearly the next trend the hipsters are already resurrecting alongside the 2000's grunge and personally I am NOT here for that one lol.
try looking into techwear styles. Its super flexible and honestly if you like darker, more futuristic/urban looks, its dope.
@@DigitalPand3mic Oh yeah you're spot on, that's what most of my modern wardrobe consists of today. I live in northern Canada too so its functional too.
I like it :) its the same type of outfit I thought was cool in middle school. I wont wear it but I can appreciate the pieces used.
Seeing the long sleeve with the bedazzled cross was such a throw back >.
there is still hope for indie sleaze yet m8
indie sleaze never died and never will
@@zero-nm8pk there u go !
I really hope you’re right
@@woodywoodward2579 i feel like most of indie sleaze can be just casual wear clothes.
@@zero-nm8pk ehhhh sorta. It’s fairly simple and easy to obtain pieces but the overall aesthetic really stems from the indie electronic scene and the parties surrounding it. With the more recent iterations of it, they’ve been very influenced by this sort of Americana-meme post-ironic stuff which has kinda changed the way it works now lol. But yea I mean still it’s fairly simple stuff.
Great video, i would argue that the anime Ghost in the Shell (movie and anime that partially inspired the Matrix) were equally if not more influential than Serial Lain. Obviously, Akira very influential too.
The cyberpunk aesthetic in both sound and style/fashion was great in the late 90s. Europe, America, Japan all had very good electronic music scene (techno, house, experimental, electronica/chill) at the time.
Thank you for sharing your commentary and thoughts
I’m 40 and I never left that trend😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Bro been living under a rock since he was born
bro forgot bout nigo, and y2k hiphop r&b culture 🤦🏻
The video was great!! The fact you managed to summarize so much and point out important facts...
Y2K was peak fashion/clothing. Designs are fire and have always been referenced in designs for brands. I’m 28 and these brands were driven by hip hop / rap as well let’s not forget. People my age aren’t interested in wearing the same stuff they wore in middle school period. Let the youngsters enjoy the dope clothes we used to wear.
P.S. Chrome hearts helped bring back the goth aesthetic, and techwear has been holding the torch before everyone started thrifting
started dressing like this right before it blew up on tiktok and i was extremely frustrated
Hard disagree bro. What ur calling “Jesse pinkman style” is not that cringe for people who are like 24. People at that age were like 6-10 during it so we looked up to people who dressed like that or our parents would help us dress like Tony hawk so now that we’re old we can dress like who we looked up to as kids. Idk saying “old” people saying that this trend is cringe is kinda cringe in itself. Also I personally see y2k just being used to label the 2000s in general, just like how a few years ago we just referred to different kinds of 90s style as just the 90s everything you’ve shown to me is just y2k, I don’t see a reason to be like ohh y2k is evolving and gen you describe something that was in 2006 lol
And if you are someone who is “old” but your like young 20s hating on young shit it’s j weird to me like how you 22-24 being like “I hate tiktok 😡😡😡😡” pretentious af tbh
that guy a normie
The style from the beginning of the 2000s really changed by the end of the decade. That y2k style was such a weird fever dream that didn't last for long. Im glad you mentioned not everyone dressed in this "cybergrunge" fashion. People who dressed like this were on the outskirts of society and their highschool. Kids would bus downtown to meet other downtown kids and goto secret warehouse raves. Dressing like this was coded for you to meet friends on the bus or at raves and secretly talk about the raves you went to. We were mocked and bullied in school for being "fruity" for going to raves and dancing and wearing those clothes with candy bracelets and headwear. Our only media to see this lifestyle were grainy and dark videos of people liquid dancing at raves downloaded from Napster. You really had to go out and live that rave culture to learn how to dress and learn the music. Mobile phones barely worked to send text msgs at the time, no browser.
also ngl this might be a diff aesthetic but the whole workwear working class marlboro red type style is really big right now in cities
as someone in the 24+ range i wouldn't say this new evolution is corny but when ur older u have different tastes, different group to fit in with, established wardrobe, and more dispensable income to shop outside of retail fashion. if u are young dressing like that it's cool as fuck but when ur older then it's corny cause it's clearly meant to separate old from new gen. i also think the tastemakers themselves are and moving on to something else. learn from trends, be inspired by them, but be original most of all bc that's how trends evolve.
Great video! I predict 2013-2014 swag will come back.
oh god I can already see the galaxy leggings and the moustaches
Already going on with Phreshboyswag
@@Morose99he is the future
In my city (Vienna) there are a lot of people already doing that
I actually think that’s the next wave too it’s just everything reacting itself
sematary is not y2k 💀💀
his fits is tho
@@its_radit no he has his own aesthetic which is very distinct to that of generic ass y2k + rick owens isnt very y2k
@@its_raditno there not
What is he then
I dipped my toes into the online rave/edm producer scene during covid. If there is an artist that, in my opinion, was vastly more influential than drain gang, it was Virtual Self. Porter Robinson was so far ahead of his time, releasing the Virtual Self EP in 2017. I will die on this hill and claim it was this alone that jumpstarted the "neo-y2k" music and aesthetic, that would then be adopted and transform through tiktok and artists who would jump on the success of VS.
I know it sounds cringe, but you had to be there to understand just how impactful VS was for the rave scene. When someone as successful and popular as Porter Robinson releases an EP that calls back to late 90's - early 2000's rave music and internet zeitgeist aesthetic, EVERYONE in the scene did their best to copy it. His work pre-dates hyperop. Dude was making y2k popular back in 2017. None of us gave a shit about the 2000's back in 2017.
Ur actually so real for this i 100% agree that virtual self made huge waves by doing y2k before anyone else!!!
@@rhithymI agree with this a lot. Porter Robinson reintroduced Y2K back into the electronic music scene. Virtual Self was by far the biggest and most impactful project for neo-y2k.
I was on the grunge thing in 2016, by 2018 I was on the Y2K stuff. There was an underground movement going on at that time. But now, 2021 I was rocking with 1970s aesthetic. Right now, I’m in the 80s trench coat mood.
really the only thing I liked ab Y2K was the futuristic style of some of it. As a graphic designer the shades of blue commonly used still feels really fresh
Fashion wise I think it’s really dated and it ain’t really for me. I do think it’ll die out in fashion but ima continue to utilize elements from the digital collages and stuff for my own work
Legend for putting undergone when talking about dg
I remember all of these styles as a kid. If you guys want the quintessential looks of this aesthetic look up:
- RESIDENT EVIL 4 (2004)
- Death Note
- Supernatural
- Edge and Lita in WWE
- Kingdom Hearts/Final Fantasy,
- 2000s Three Days Grace,
- The entire 2000s metalcore scene,
- Gucci Mane - Freaky Gurl (2007)
- AFI
- 2000s Marilyn Manson (Tainted Love especially)
- Queen of the Damned
- Nana (Anime)
- The Pokemon Darkrai Movie from 2008
- The Akatsuki from Naruto
- Fast & Furious Tokyo Drift
- Cold - Year of The Spider (2003)
- All the Guitar Hero games
- Deadman Wonderland (Anime)
- Soul Eater (Anime)
- Hellsing OVA (2006-2013)
- Freddy vs Jason
- Ichiji The Killer (w:extreme gore)
- The Resident Evil movies
- Kittie (all girl band)
- The Bleach Manga fashion editorials (highly recommended)
- Anything Jun Takahashi was designing
- System of a Down BYOB (2005) music video
- Ladytron - Destroy Everything you Touch (2005) music video
- The Underworld movies
I was there.
U forgot the most important one: devil may cry
@@mike_420_ You are right
FFX fit goes wild.
You also forgot the hollister/ Abercrombie polo that kanye had with mainstream prep aesthetic that had grip on everybody and when the rappers wore pink
But the y2k trend started in 2017 I saw this at Abercrombie and there still rolling with it too
As someone in their early 30's, I'd say the Japanese cultural interfacing was already huge in the mid 90's. The absolute coolest kids in first grade were the one's who were able to bring all the cool trends over via asian family members (Pokemon, furby, tamagotchi and the like) when anime was really blowing up. We all played Japanese games, wanted Japanese snacks and ran home to catch the new Pokemon episodes that dropped at 3pm after school. Myself and my peers spent our evenings at home watching Toonami. A couple of years later we mashed that together with Hot Topic sprees since kids were obsessed with Jhonen vasquez and the like.
I always loved this style when I was a kid but my mom would never get it for me except 1 really cool shirt. I’m glad it came back
yeh same here, I was a massive fan of chief keef back in 2012-15 but my mum would never get me tr
7:45 This style is referred to as UrBling
Just wanted to get that out there
As someone who grew up in the 2010s and interested in trends of the 2000s, this is a good video! I like how someone acknowledges what Y2K actually was and what you said about Japan’s influence about Y2K helped me understand Y2K Grunge better
No matter what you said about Y2K you still put The Hellp in this video so I’m gonna like it
BRO!! I BEEN WAITING MY WHOLE LIFE TO WEAR THESE CLOTHES MY MOM WOULD NEVER BUY ME!! i was allowed to have some south pole shit but anything with skulls was a hell no! Y2K4EVER!
I like that you mentioned the fact that a lot of what people associate with Y2K fashion just wasn't common fashion in that era and it was more prevalent in the media than in the public. The same applies to Vaporwave and the whole Memphis aesthetic. That was a popular aesthetic in the 80's and early 90's but it was far from the only aesthetic that existed. I find it interesting which things come to represent a generation for people who never actually experienced that time period. It's usually the most bombastic stuff and the stuff that resonates more with the current generation that comes to represent previous generational aesthetics. My experience of the 90's and the prevalent aesthetic was that it was far more influenced by metal, grunge and punk rock than by the early internet. The fashion that seemed most prevalent to me in the early 2000's was the style that we today call "McBling" rather than Japanese Streetwear and Raver Fashion. I considered myself a "Raver" at that time and I was totally aware of that style but it was far from being the popular look in fashion at that time.
cant lie those "post y2k" fits were all exactly the same, kids wearing the exact same cross t shirt and some sagging baggy jeans.
I'm 31. To see the culture of my teen years re imagined already is wild. We would have 80s day at school and now kids are having 2004 day.
yeah this nails its pretty well like i grew up in y2k and i didn't even realize all of these great animes and music would even come back in 2024 i find it hilarious gen z finds it nostalgic. what it comes down to is 1999 had so much fire content that was truly timeless and never really became cheesey it just progressively aged out. i'm glad people can still enjoy it though. 1999 was like peak japanese culture before their population started aging so they were pumping out exclusive ps2 games and it was such an inaccesible place you literally had to fly there to see the street level vs now where theres a million tiktoks of people documenting every corner of shibuya
i feel so called out by this video lol. super into y2k, nu-metal, skateboarding, alt, etc lol
I will say, having some old gray haired tech friends, the Y2K bug behind the scenes was actually kinda serious business, and a lot of fixes were made to prevent anything from really fucking anything else over. It wouldn't be "the US has become a radioactive wasteland and planes fall out of the sky" bad but if nothing was done behind the scenes to work out the bug, it could've been "a lot of the software and internet we rely on wouldn't work so good and be a pretty big inconvenience" and we'd have to do things the old fashioned way. Things would turn on but a lot of it wouldn't work "properly" if that makes sense.
For the dark teen vampirr/2000s emo style there is also inspiration from artis from emo,skramz, hipol rap, emo rap, n more which is pretty cool because its an awesome style that people wear that have different tastes in music or alternative aesthetics have adapted into a little scene i guess with this type of style
Reason I’m not rocking it, is because I already went through this phase. Gave all my bbc and evisu clothing to my girl. I like to buy clothes now that are timeless and last for a long time
this was how I dressed back in the day ya'll need to get the super chunky skate shoes
The chief keef clothing wave coming back but better music
im 23 and you hit the nail on why people around my age may not like this. to me their is something about this look that i strongly reject, i think i can feel how unauthentic it is when i see it, that i naturally dislike it. the overaccesorizng, the flashiness, it is definitely different but at the same time so basic and soulless to the point where im like eh. ima skater and even when i see people dressed like this it just feels super edgy-tryhard however im not judging because when i was 20-21 i was splurging on a shit ton of designer and grand looks however this is just too much for me. im getting old and lame lmao. i broke up with fashion last year i fuck with skate brands heavy tho depending on graphics and aestethics. im into people that stand out in clothes now other than have clothes that stand out on them. its just from my own experience with clothes however
as an artist, i’m glad people are getting into the more well executed works of manga/anime, fashion concepts, and films. now i can see some good mf tiktok edits of most media i enjoy. a couple years ago, i wouldn’t even see vampire hunter d or suspiria as a mini “fandom”, now we have whole letterboxd accs and discord servers for specific genres.
im a mcbling hip hop girl who loves a damn good fyodor dostoevsky novel 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Interesting video! I've been part of the emo/teen-vampire side of the y2k which was big in my part of the world when I was a teen. It's coming back among zoomers as they are more influenced by tiktok/american pop culture way more than we used to be.
Especially younger genz cuz in my country they calle teen genz luh twizzy
Please, let the 2010s swag era never return. I would rather Y2K last forever than that!
Kinda feels weird that at 28 my childhood has become an aesthetic
Same, it's like we are turning into ghosts
LMAO when we used to dress in baggy in early 2000s because we listened to rap, people used to bully us. Now these kids think they are cool and trendy 😂
babe wake up new karsten upload
Love the outro slint on the piano
what a good video so well researched
im 25 and im so about it but it really is how i dressed when i was 8 years old 😭
i am very thankful that not every person has that style, for me im not that old but i just like old stuff i listen to 90-00s music i play games from the 2000s i just like the 00s, but everyone can wear what they want
u should have mentioned how visual kei influenced the vamp fashion! and lot of it is taken from early j fashion imo
yes i see the difference and i like it! i think being authentic to what people were wearing then is not super important if thats not what you're intending to do seeing it evolve is scary cause there's always a chance it devolves but i think some people are executing it well
Y2k never went away...it's been evolving ever since it started...
thats not true. Y2k was almost completely gone in 2010s. Only few drug addicts raver dudes in their mid 30d would still dress like that in the 10s. y2k style was the most uncool thing you could wear in the 10s
It did die like most trends do. Though it funny to see kids dressed like me and my friends back in high school. Only thing they’re missing are Kanji shirts.
yoooooo da slint piano outro goes crazy
glad i held on to the ed hardy and truies lol
This is my favourite artistic current, I have. A question how would you name the underground berlin aesthetic like “Berghain”
It's raver fashion generally speaking but techno fashion is really also it's own thing now because of how trendy it got on the internet the past decade. It's like a mixture of fetish wear and health goth aesthetics for the most part and with lots of sunglasses and silver jewelry. There's practical reasons for some of it too.. Typically you don't want much layers or restriction of movement and you want breathable fabrics so athletic wear is best and silver/chrome jewelry is just really dope looking when it reflects the club lights. Sunglasses because lights sometimes catch your eyes and for other obvious reasons lol.
@@totaldeparture7848 interesting,thank you!
I guess the big difference netween then and now is that there was a lot of hope and optimism for technology and the future, and now we realise how horrific has everythintlg has become. Influencers , AI, etc.
y2k is already dead lmao. they say to hold on to your clothes because in 10 years they’ll be fashionable again. there’s an insane influx of these edgy companies from the early 2000’s trying to make a comeback. marc ecko, affliction, metal mullisha and all that stupid shit which was at one point nearly non existent has been blown way out of proportion. when the companies that gave up on this style are back to try again, thats how you know this style has died a 2nd time. gen z is already fading out of this and getting into early 20-teen style (starbucks, fake glasses, unicorn frappes, etc…) the way in which style evolves has changed so much since the 80’s. think about how quick things move, and how pre-covid everyone was wearing dickies 874’s, now baggy pants are the new dickies. y2k style is just an ugly trend that came back ironically.
Nice video yeah I think indie sleaze and blog house are next up.
Washer by slint as your outro goes so hard
Is that duvet lain?!?!? SUBSCRIBED
OK but how does this explain the awful revival of the mullet?
Dont even get me started
I think kpop idols brought back the mullet/wolf cut style back. I seen it with my own two eyes during 2019-2020
Its fading again already peso pluma made it stick a little longer is all
@@hyunjinscrunchytoenails8860i’m gonna have to agree. i’m pretty much born and raised in korea up until like 2018 so it’s safe to say i was pretty shocked to see how many guys were wearing their hair like this when i came back in like 2021…sadly, a lot of guys are still wearing their hair like that here. i’m hoping it disappears completely one day.
I remember being on the school bus in like 2014 like early high school wearing my colored animal bands and my ecko shirt and shoes and my evisu pants and some kid came up to me and made fun of me for it and said that shit wasn’t cool anymore now those same people are paying $100 for an mma elite shirt I got for $15 at a Gabe’s
While I wasn’t really there in that era of fashion, I do have relatives that were there when that era hit, and I honestly think that that era of fashion has some sense of nostalgia in me, similar to how Frutiger Aero has some sense of nostalgia in me in terms of how things are kind of sought out. While there wasn’t really a fashion trend in that era of design in general, I kinda dig the whole Y2K era of fashion and design. Def will say that anything flat was just not something I would have believed would be the next era when I was in high school and college, because that design standpoint was boring. I really have more of sense of respect with those kinds of designs, Y2K and FA than anything that was produced the time I became a teen, because we went from seeing stuff that looked flashy, tacky, and weird, to just something that was just, flat and boring.
I'm 57 years old and I love dressing Y2K. It will never be dead in my world.
Lol sematary and ken on the thumbnail 😂
Duvet playing in the background is peak y2k
I really like this style but idk if I could pull it off and I’m not too much of a fan on baggy jeans. But this style was so unique back then not many ppl dressed like it and it was mainly a rock vibe with the ppl that wore it
I’m 22 I remember when the world used to be different in the early 2000 especially I was like 8,7 I remember the world was totally different I kinda missed how the early 2000s used to look.
Damn, you have a really good memory for being a baby at the time!
@@domxvi1074when do u think early 2k is? Its basically 2000-2005
@sumdood2124 here let me make this easy for you. Somebody 22 now in 2024 was born in in 2002, meaning that this person was a toddler until what 2006? How much 'early 2000s' could this person actually observe though the eyes of an oblivious child?
No way? Earth different
@@domxvi1074 I was little to understand but I remember people dressing like this
Alot of this stuff especially south pole was hip hop influenced. Also echo was my ish back in the day!
By 2005, wide leg jeans were completely out of style; super skinny jeans were the chief alternative style in 2006 and 2007
Not in my city… it was 2008 for my city .
I dont give a flying Fucc... thats just my drip😂😂😂
Ok…? Good for you…?
I hate tiktok it kills the character and the originality of an outfit/style.
More people should listen to more boa's twilight album and the other one they made. Its a little sad to see people only talk about duvet even though most of their songs get so much better than that.
26 and yeah I do remember this but I wouldnt mind trying it out for fun; esp. because I also enjoy goth fashion and have been building some 90s goth outfits.
In my 30s and was an otaku in the early 2000s: this whole conversation is so wild to me 😅
First time I heard this topic in a while might have to do this on my channel 👀👀👀
Imo modern fashion is like a train line in which some people get off and stay for good or they get back on and go to another stop. There’s 60s/70s, 80s, 90s, y2k and pretty soon late 2000s-2013 styles like swag, indie sleaze, or all. Who knows maybe the biker Jean, curved hem era will have renaissance after that lol. Outside of that there’s gorp-ish, athleisure, techno/industrial all black as well as certain things that are more or less timeless which a lot of online people call quiet luxury (I hate that term). One thing to remember though, some people who dress in any of these styles don’t even know these words exist so don’t always judge a book by its cover.
this used to be the way people listening to nu metal dressed back in the day. Whenever I see a kid wearing these clothes, I just think of Breaking Benjamin, Creed, Seether, and all that stuff. Basically It's like a nu metal / grunge revival... these bands also used to "incorporate" the "vampire" style, for instance, Static X, Korn, among many others (not only Deftones) and don't forget about Goth-Inspired vampire movies with industrial/Nu Metal Soundtracks from the late 1990s to early 2000s (Blade, Underworld, Queen of the dammed, etc). Personally, I love seeing this trend again, it truly brings back nostalgia
Don’t forget the repopularization of DnB with Pink Panthress Aphex Twin
Baroque and muddy in the same sentence. Fantastic!
Rest in peace DontDoDrugs, he really did pioneer the new JNCO, Tapout, DC aesthetic
bro what’s the song on the background after u start saying the brands of the post y2k?? 😭😭
In high school back in 2006 we made fun of people who dressed like that. It’s fun young people like this now
Thanks for The video!