I was a Grunge teenager in the 90’s (in the uk) I got bullied at school because of how I dressed. Then the high street shops started stocking Grunge inspired clothes and all the girls who bullied me were now wearing Grunge. So many music movements end up being popular high street fashion. I still predominantly have a grudge style now in my 40’s
Im sorry you got bullied! That fuckin sucks people really can me assholes its like theyre scared of being different or of people that are? Its so weird, im in 🇸🇪 high school and it’s exhausting! And everything feels fake all people talk about are whats on their phone?! And i want to do things for real!? Talk about real things. But i cant even say anything i have a screen time of 5h a day? Haha sorry i think you get my point this sucks. Im so jealous that you got to grow up when bands like Nirvana and sound garden, or even when people would just go to concerts or like by cds! Music isnt even that big of a deal to anyone anymore because its so accessible ( witch is good sometimes) im just gonna start a band and play live on like bars and stuff! Hahah sorry I don’t know why this became a vent post or why im even writing this to random folks and the internet… why not tho?!! I hope you’re doing well and that you dont falla asleep while reading this gahaha
I really appreciate the acknowledgment of how characaturized certain elements of alternative styles have become (ex. Wednesday Addams dresses, leather jackets becoming mainstream, EXPENSIVE boots/platforms, etc.). I think that alternative styles becoming more mainstream is kinda frustrating but NOT completely problematic UNLESS the subversiveness and roots in poverty are ignored.
Oh and yes PLEASE do a video on fairycore grunge and even twlilightcore I think that would be so cool! ModernGurlz did an excellent video on twilightcore that I think you would love!!!!
I grew up listening to grunge music, and have been dressing grunge since I was small. Kinda helps that all my clothes were hand me downs lol. Still dress grunge today. Baggy clothes be mah favourite things, Always so comfy and easy to move in :)
love this!!! I dress grunge-ish ever since 2013 and honestly it's one of the coolest aesthetics we had so far in the 21st century! it needs to make a comeback!!!
Plz don’t apologize for your pit hair! I love to see another woman growing out her body hair (I stopped shaving years and years and years ago back in high school)….seems pretty grunge to me ;))) come as you are and all that
I got really involved in this one, taking notes and thinking of analogs in art and intellectual history and I thought I had what Grunge was nailed but near the end I wasn't sure. This was a hard subject for me, anti-fashion fashion, a dialectic.We all know what the Grunge "look" is, we know it when we see it. Punk: get the hell out of here with Punk. Punk isn't even on the same end of the spectrum as Grunge. For the same reason I didn't take to the Pale Grunge and Fairy Grunge. How dare they appropriate the name! Those are CLEARLY intentional fashion. I don't know what I would have thought of Pale and Fairy if it didn't misappropriate Grunge. Now, you could argue that after Nirvana realized that not making a statement was becoming a statement that they should have changed. But then that would be intentional, the opposite of Grunge. So, all of these dialectics: grunge=scum becomes chic; ripped jeans cuz I'm poor man, to deliberately ripped jeans. I'm sorry, that's pathetic. You cleared this confusion up for me when you said near the end that Grunge was all about "authenticity." That reconciled all of the contradictions to my satisfaction. Can you tell I liked this vlog? :) I really, REALLY did.
Awesome video! I think grunge fashion has stayed alive in some places since the 90s, including my home town. A lot of grunge and earlier punk fashion originates in working class culture. Docs, Timberland, flannel and Dickies have been the "go to" workware in places like the PNW and Birmingham since at least the 1960s. Living in the PNW there's a lot of "alternative"/ queer culture born from necessity. For example, since yt migration began to the West coast, many women have had to take on traditionally masculine roles such as heading a household and working at lumber mills. I am really impressed by the latest sort of grunge revival that we're seeing on TikTok and Pinterest. I like that people are incorporating more diy elements. I have also seen some great stuff recently from brands like Minga London, Colina Estrada, Dickie's Juniors, Anna Sui & Vivienne Westwood jewelry.
I’m not sure if that’s entirely what androgynous means? For when you said androgynous looks consist of men wearing dressing and women wearing baggier men’s clothing. To be androgynous in fashion is to not present in a particularly feminine or masculine way :) but I totally get what you’re trying to say, and I love that grunge has that aspect too!!! Love ur videos so so much as well as the effort and research that goes into them
i think often grunge fashion doesn’t present itself feminine or masculine and can be androgynous for those who want to present that way! clothing in grunge isn’t masc is femme which is what’s awesome about it(: thanks so much for the comment!
you make great analysis and videos, such good quality, you deserve more recognition gorl!! you should def do more of this fashion analysis and the fairycore it's also very interesting! 🖤
I really loved your analysis videos! and yessss to fairygrunge! I am so into it lately but I find how people style it is very much limited to green colors only. I think fairy grunge is about this magical + grunge attitude rather than the color itself.
Elder millenial here lol. Back in the day me and my friends used to joke it was a cross between hippie and punk lol. That might sound weird to folks nowadays, but there is a shared look and influence from both. Dressing like this wasn't just freeing to us a baby dŷkes (thank you for bringing this up), it also is a "look" unbound by a specific scene. Me and my friends listened to metal and goth music too and all kinds of music tbh. And that's kinda the thing about "grunge" as a look: it's aesthetically WHATEVER.
Erm. It is Generation X Childhood styles, and Boomer Silent Generation Parents from particular Cultures. We have NOTHING to DO with '' emo ''. We HATE that Sh it. They literally stole some of Our Styles, and dumbed them down. With sprinklings of other Generations and Cultures edit: styles Please DON'T ATTACH the Grunge Generation to '' Emo '' THANKS ! And JUST NO !!!!!!!!
i think it's important to remember that grunge aesthetic was just what they already wore. and i think that's why it's still popular. it was just clothes and not a costume. it was distraught because they couldn't afford new. that fairy grunge just look like a renfaire costume. also water is the enemy of grunge don't wash your clothes and don't wash yourself
i don’t know a lot but i do love it! Mina Le had a great kawaii video and Lolita gets a bad rep because it so often gets confused for nympthette or “tumblr lolita” so it could be fun to educate myself!
@@dionthetaurus Oh my! I mean Lolita Japanese (sorry my bad), the other Lolita is little problematic and I understand if you still don't want to talk about it. Is a delicate topic. Thank you for bringing such entertaining videos. ❤❤
This video deserves to be way up there, was searching about grunge fashion and I had scroll way down til I got this video. Gotta say love everything about what you talked about here. Big ups sister!
This is why I love learning about different subcultures and rock and roll history I never heard of this woman but I will be doing my research black people I'm not saying we started any punk rock music but we are punk rock and grunge without even trying we created rock music there is a long history of black people in rock and roll please do your research if you are curious also there are multiple different people different racial backgrounds that love or have somewhat been influenced in the rock music based subcultures like punk rock and grunge also there needs to be talked about more about racial diversity in different subcultures and in rock music
Uh No. People who grew up in the Eras are Punk Rock and Grunge. We grew up multiracial. Our Cultures are multiracial. I don't know why your generation seems to think that is some New and Novel idea LMAO !
So my sister was 16 like in 2013 and when emo kind of died and twilight and tumblr was rising I could really see that the new grunge was kind of goth lots of hair dye and then it kind of came back in 2020 as alt with more hello kitty and emo but not so emo yet i think that grunge died but it wake up
Styles like grunge always ends when corporate America starts selling grunge wear at jc Penny's or Macy's they syarted selling way over priced cut up jeans and flannels and becomes uncool.I remember they were asking kurt cobain about his fashion style when he wear sweatrs flannels and layers cause he was skinny and always cold in Seattle but he was so embarresed to be asked the question and its when he started to hate the word grunge
Question: I don’t really listen to nirvana or those bands but, I really like the aesthetic and don’t want to get bullied because I don’t listen to that music, I listen to more indie music and alternative rock bands like Lemon Demon, Tally Hall, and Jack Stauber. Can I still be grunge/egirl?
Since no one answered, I will. To be a part of any music-based scene/subculture, you have to listen to the music in order to truly be a part of it. If you don't enjoy Grunge music then it wouldn't be accurate to call yourself "grunge" or a "grunge fan" since you don't like the music that defines the subculture. That said, if you like certain aspects of what the musicians wore, it's fine to take inspiration from it. But anyway, you don't have to be grunge to take inspiration from said scene while having the decency to not mislabel your interest.
Now name 5 pearl jam songs (jk, I could only name 3 without confusing them with soundgarden, hahaha (they're not so similar, but I tend to confuse them))
Those “grunge” fashion examples look to me more like goth or punk? I guess grunge is a spin off of punk but like Kurt Cobain for example didn’t really dress “grunge” ? Was he like an outlier? Because most of his fashion seems to me very much a mix of him being insecure with himself and also a bit of laziness. And ironically his fashion was like an expression of himself. Didn’t feel like he tried to go for any particular style even though he’s always the poster child for grunge. The other ppl I see being referred to as “grunge” style look more goth/alternative. And it seems more deliberate not effortlessly just their style. So I guess the whole “grunge” scenes philosophy went out the windows the moment it became popular because now it’s just like any other clothing style and “cliquey” group mentality that grunge was supposed to be against. Once things become popular they are no longer authentic
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I was a Grunge teenager in the 90’s (in the uk) I got bullied at school because of how I dressed. Then the high street shops started stocking Grunge inspired clothes and all the girls who bullied me were now wearing Grunge. So many music movements end up being popular high street fashion. I still predominantly have a grudge style now in my 40’s
Me too, I was grunge 90's fashion was amazing honestly best era for fashion.
Sad for you.Britpop is the mainstream culture in uk in 90s,I guess Grunge style is not popular in uk,the fact proves that I was wrong.
Im sorry you got bullied! That fuckin sucks people really can me assholes its like theyre scared of being different or of people that are? Its so weird, im in 🇸🇪 high school and it’s exhausting! And everything feels fake all people talk about are whats on their phone?! And i want to do things for real!? Talk about real things. But i cant even say anything i have a screen time of 5h a day? Haha sorry i think you get my point this sucks.
Im so jealous that you got to grow up when bands like Nirvana and sound garden, or even when people would just go to concerts or like by cds! Music isnt even that big of a deal to anyone anymore because its so accessible ( witch is good sometimes) im just gonna start a band and play live on like bars and stuff!
Hahah sorry I don’t know why this became a vent post or why im even writing this to random folks and the internet… why not tho?!! I hope you’re doing well and that you dont falla asleep while reading this gahaha
@@almacarrigansandinhope your band is successful, nothing wrong with ranting 😂 yes bullying sucks but I new who I was and that has been good for me.
I say haters are people who are jealous of you. Never let bullies win
This is such a good analysis. No one ever mentions green river in grunge analysis! They were the first grunge band.
I like how you include the history and the impact on culture
lol
I really appreciate the acknowledgment of how characaturized certain elements of alternative styles have become (ex. Wednesday Addams dresses, leather jackets becoming mainstream, EXPENSIVE boots/platforms, etc.). I think that alternative styles becoming more mainstream is kinda frustrating but NOT completely problematic UNLESS the subversiveness and roots in poverty are ignored.
UH
Hot Topic already took Our Styles in 1988
It has been Imitation since then
Oh and yes PLEASE do a video on fairycore grunge and even twlilightcore I think that would be so cool! ModernGurlz did an excellent video on twilightcore that I think you would love!!!!
yes i love moderngurlz ! i think it would be so fun to go in depth on that
Please stop renaming Our Cultures
Can you stop attaching Our Generation's styles to everything '' core '' ?
@@aotctd no 😈😈
I grew up listening to grunge music, and have been dressing grunge since I was small. Kinda helps that all my clothes were hand me downs lol. Still dress grunge today. Baggy clothes be mah favourite things, Always so comfy and easy to move in :)
The Grunge Generation has been dressing Grunge since small
love this!!! I dress grunge-ish ever since 2013 and honestly it's one of the coolest aesthetics we had so far in the 21st century! it needs to make a comeback!!!
it’s such a classic! i feel like no matter what grunge will be around for the angsty teen 💕 i love it
Erm
We have been dreesing like that since childhood
We never went away ?
Just listened to bambam ground zero. I can see why kurt liked them
How we grew up
I loved that you mentioned/acknowledged Tina Bell yesss
yesss thank u hehe
So great growing up in the era
Loved the multiracialness of it all
Cool how you are styled like our growing up too lmao
Plz don’t apologize for your pit hair! I love to see another woman growing out her body hair (I stopped shaving years and years and years ago back in high school)….seems pretty grunge to me ;))) come as you are and all that
I wish I could have grown up during the grunge era except I was only just born lol
lol Grunge era were people of age
They grew up earlier
I got really involved in this one, taking notes and thinking of analogs in art and intellectual history and I thought I had what Grunge was nailed but near the end I wasn't sure. This was a hard subject for me, anti-fashion fashion, a dialectic.We all know what the Grunge "look" is, we know it when we see it. Punk: get the hell out of here with Punk. Punk isn't even on the same end of the spectrum as Grunge. For the same reason I didn't take to the Pale Grunge and Fairy Grunge. How dare they appropriate the name! Those are CLEARLY intentional fashion. I don't know what I would have thought of Pale and Fairy if it didn't misappropriate Grunge. Now, you could argue that after Nirvana realized that not making a statement was becoming a statement that they should have changed. But then that would be intentional, the opposite of Grunge. So, all of these dialectics: grunge=scum becomes chic; ripped jeans cuz I'm poor man, to deliberately ripped jeans. I'm sorry, that's pathetic. You cleared this confusion up for me when you said near the end that Grunge was all about "authenticity." That reconciled all of the contradictions to my satisfaction. Can you tell I liked this vlog? :) I really, REALLY did.
hahaha thanks dad!
Grunge is alternative kids gen x childhoods
And Our Boomer and Silrnt Generation Parent's Styles
And yeah It is also tied to Punk
please do fairy grudge analysis~!! thanky you~~
oooh yess✨
Awesome video! I think grunge fashion has stayed alive in some places since the 90s, including my home town. A lot of grunge and earlier punk fashion originates in working class culture. Docs, Timberland, flannel and Dickies have been the "go to" workware in places like the PNW and Birmingham since at least the 1960s. Living in the PNW there's a lot of "alternative"/ queer culture born from necessity. For example, since yt migration began to the West coast, many women have had to take on traditionally masculine roles such as heading a household and working at lumber mills.
I am really impressed by the latest sort of grunge revival that we're seeing on TikTok and Pinterest. I like that people are incorporating more diy elements. I have also seen some great stuff recently from brands like Minga London, Colina Estrada, Dickie's Juniors, Anna Sui & Vivienne Westwood jewelry.
I'm here for the kinderwh0re love
the line that you put in that punk is the holden caufield of musics GOT ME
HAHAH glad you enjoyed
Please do a Fairycore video!! Your video essays are always so interesting and in depth xx
Ahhh thank you! I def want to know it’s such a cute spring summer styleeee
you can do a video where you speed run thru substyles like fairy grunge and ofc more. love the video as always
awww thank you!!! i love talking about substyles
Can yall stop diluting Our Cultures ? including KPOP attaching to us ?
Grunge is probably the easiest to dress up as for a costume
Yeah Don't treat Us as Costume
Good video I think fairy core is lovely. Would love to see you do a video about it.
i’ve done fairygrunge if u wanna see that xx
I’m not sure if that’s entirely what androgynous means? For when you said androgynous looks consist of men wearing dressing and women wearing baggier men’s clothing. To be androgynous in fashion is to not present in a particularly feminine or masculine way :) but I totally get what you’re trying to say, and I love that grunge has that aspect too!!! Love ur videos so so much as well as the effort and research that goes into them
i think often grunge fashion doesn’t present itself feminine or masculine and can be androgynous for those who want to present that way! clothing in grunge isn’t masc is femme which is what’s awesome about it(: thanks so much for the comment!
you make great analysis and videos, such good quality, you deserve more recognition gorl!!
you should def do more of this fashion analysis and the fairycore it's also very interesting! 🖤
aww thank you!!
This was sooo good!! I agree with the others, a fairycore video (especially for the spring equinox!) would be so sweet 🧚♀️💗
Also, LOVED the Tina Bell mention
oooh for the spring equinox that’s so genius thank you!
you seem like such a pleasant and fun person, this video was really cool to watch !!
I really loved your analysis videos! and yessss to fairygrunge! I am so into it lately but I find how people style it is very much limited to green colors only. I think fairy grunge is about this magical + grunge attitude rather than the color itself.
Ahh this is such a good point!
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. Great video, great research, great work. I subsbscribed❤
Hilarious
And you styled like Our Parents Culturs
Very, very good vivacious presentation!
thank your jorge!
Facts my brother, spit your shit indeed!
This video is very helpful for me as a character designer as I have a character from the 90s.
Yeah Not with Our Generation's and Culture's styles
Oh you should do a video on princesscore
oooh i’ve thought about it!
Nice Vid Dion :) Looking forward to the next one :)
thank you!!!
In 2014, I was in my grunge tumblr era. Now I’m falling back into it lol❤😂
lol., Please stop stealing Our styles
=)
@@aotctd huh???
Elder millenial here lol.
Back in the day me and my friends used to joke it was a cross between hippie and punk lol.
That might sound weird to folks nowadays, but there is a shared look and influence from both.
Dressing like this wasn't just freeing to us a baby dŷkes (thank you for bringing this up), it also is a "look" unbound by a specific scene. Me and my friends listened to metal and goth music too and all kinds of music tbh.
And that's kinda the thing about "grunge" as a look: it's aesthetically WHATEVER.
Grunge style is essentially 'I don't care for style' style. Colorful Emos.
Erm. It is Generation X Childhood styles, and Boomer Silent Generation Parents from particular Cultures.
We have NOTHING to DO with '' emo ''. We HATE that Sh it.
They literally stole some of Our Styles, and dumbed them down.
With sprinklings of other Generations and Cultures edit: styles
Please DON'T ATTACH the Grunge Generation to '' Emo ''
THANKS !
And JUST NO !!!!!!!!
This is awesommeeee
i think it's important to remember that grunge aesthetic was just what they already wore. and i think that's why it's still popular. it was just clothes and not a costume. it was distraught because they couldn't afford new. that fairy grunge just look like a renfaire costume. also water is the enemy of grunge don't wash your clothes and don't wash yourself
21st century proper historian right here
bahahahhaha thanks
I love the Style Analysis videos! :D
What do you think do a video of Kawaii style or Lolita style? 👀
i don’t know a lot but i do love it! Mina Le had a great kawaii video and Lolita gets a bad rep because it so often gets confused for nympthette or “tumblr lolita” so it could be fun to educate myself!
@@dionthetaurus Oh my! I mean Lolita Japanese (sorry my bad), the other Lolita is little problematic and I understand if you still don't want to talk about it. Is a delicate topic. Thank you for bringing such entertaining videos. ❤❤
This video deserves to be way up there, was searching about grunge fashion and I had scroll way down til I got this video. Gotta say love everything about what you talked about here. Big ups sister!
lol
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Please do a video on goblincore!!!
I love androgynous fashion including grunge
I love how we grew up in androgynous eras and Our Styles wern't called '' fashion ''
Nice name, never heard of a girl spelling 'Dion' that way before
thank you! it’s my grandmothers maiden name 🧡
This is why I love learning about different subcultures and rock and roll history I never heard of this woman but I will be doing my research black people I'm not saying we started any punk rock music but we are punk rock and grunge without even trying we created rock music there is a long history of black people in rock and roll please do your research if you are curious also there are multiple different people different racial backgrounds that love or have somewhat been influenced in the rock music based subcultures like punk rock and grunge also there needs to be talked about more about racial diversity in different subcultures and in rock music
Uh No. People who grew up in the Eras are Punk Rock and Grunge.
We grew up multiracial. Our Cultures are multiracial.
I don't know why your generation seems to think that is some New and Novel idea
LMAO !
We literally grew up multiracial
It is ONLY NEW to Y O U R GENERATION
But not to anyone from the actual Cultures
How we A C T U A L L Y GRew Up
So my sister was 16 like in 2013 and when emo kind of died and twilight and tumblr was rising I could really see that the new grunge was kind of goth lots of hair dye and then it kind of came back in 2020 as alt with more hello kitty and emo but not so emo yet i think that grunge died but it wake up
Uh Nothing new
None of those Styles were New either
Also stop attaching the Grunge Generation to '' emo ''
We literally hated and hate that Garbage
Styles like grunge always ends when corporate America starts selling grunge wear at jc Penny's or Macy's they syarted selling way over priced cut up jeans and flannels and becomes uncool.I remember they were asking kurt cobain about his fashion style when he wear sweatrs flannels and layers cause he was skinny and always cold in Seattle but he was so embarresed to be asked the question and its when he started to hate the word grunge
Love this
tysm🧡🧡🧡
Question: I don’t really listen to nirvana or those bands but, I really like the aesthetic and don’t want to get bullied because I don’t listen to that music, I listen to more indie music and alternative rock bands like Lemon Demon, Tally Hall, and Jack Stauber. Can I still be grunge/egirl?
Since no one answered, I will. To be a part of any music-based scene/subculture, you have to listen to the music in order to truly be a part of it. If you don't enjoy Grunge music then it wouldn't be accurate to call yourself "grunge" or a "grunge fan" since you don't like the music that defines the subculture. That said, if you like certain aspects of what the musicians wore, it's fine to take inspiration from it.
But anyway, you don't have to be grunge to take inspiration from said scene while having the decency to not mislabel your interest.
Uh
They all culture Vulture how we grew up
@@KaiDecadence Uh My Generation, and older are the Origins
Please don't speak for how we grew up
Our Cultures have already been raided by Hot Topic, Dollskill, Jaded, Minga, unif etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc
More Elena Gilbert asthetic plz
You say that on a ( supposed ) grunge video ?
Love how emphasized and included that ANYONE can wear grunge! I've sometimes heard people think that grunge is only masculine which is not true at all
lol It is Gen X Childhood Styles
and Their Parents
Name 3 songs 🙄
i never saw black sabbath with lipstick. good video but that was wrong
Who still uses CDs?
I do lol I still use them when I'm driving
Now name 5 pearl jam songs (jk, I could only name 3 without confusing them with soundgarden, hahaha (they're not so similar, but I tend to confuse them))
I am the Grunge Generation / Alternative Generation and hate Pearl Jam
Those “grunge” fashion examples look to me more like goth or punk? I guess grunge is a spin off of punk but like Kurt Cobain for example didn’t really dress “grunge” ? Was he like an outlier? Because most of his fashion seems to me very much a mix of him being insecure with himself and also a bit of laziness. And ironically his fashion was like an expression of himself. Didn’t feel like he tried to go for any particular style even though he’s always the poster child for grunge. The other ppl I see being referred to as “grunge” style look more goth/alternative. And it seems more deliberate not effortlessly just their style. So I guess the whole “grunge” scenes philosophy went out the windows the moment it became popular because now it’s just like any other clothing style and “cliquey” group mentality that grunge was supposed to be against. Once things become popular they are no longer authentic
Our Generation are all those Cultures
It is also just Our Childhood Styles
and Our Parent's Styles
I Am Gen X
lolz
lol Shows shit after the Styles came up
grunge is a genre of music not a fashion style
That style started with lazy teens on drugs couch surfing.. not showering or washing clothes.
No it didn't
It started with the Parents of Gen X
You don’t know anything.