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Trump: The Art of Deception
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- it’s true that all politicians lie, but PolitiFacts says Trump is a league of his own. No Politician has lied as much as Trump, and he's been doing it since the 80s.
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Know them by their fruits.
It’s not that difficult.
You r a fruit.
Apparently it is if he says things that you want to hear
@@UnashamedCaliforniagirl the phrase "tickling their ears" comes to mind
People are tired of the lies and corruption of the Biden administration.
Thank you for holding to the good. The thing about the Access Hollywood tape that appalled me the most was NOT the "grabbing" part. It was the part where he proudly shared his attempt to force himself on the wife of another man -- "taking her furniture shopping" -- all planned out.
He was as faithful to his oath of office as he was to his wedding vows. Skye has it exactly right about the people giving him a pass on all this.
Can't tell M/F from your handle, but I'm a 68yo guy who has seen numerous locker rooms. Sure, we joke and kid a bit...and it dies down after about age 13...but NEVER to that level trump did with B. Bush on the Hollywood tapes. It is despicable and demeaning to ALL women, everywhere. His claims to be a true disciple of Christ, holding up a Bible and spouting some 'two Corinthians' nonsense is the true definition of taking God's name in vain. Well, Israel wanted a king many years ago so they could keep up with the world's Joneses. God warned them, but they didn't have ears to hear. I'm afraid America is the same today. Hope not, but I fear it. Sorry, read your comment and needed to vent!
Trump didn’t say that he grabbed women. He also said he stopped when he found out she was married.
Go back and watch instead taking in the liberal news spin.
That’s the lazy way holy posters read the Bible as well.
Extremely gross and I would bet anything someone at some point in their lives has said something pretty gross (whether exaggerated or not).
They're all scum. Then Biden voted for the crime bill in the 90's, it destroyed the lives of thousands of black people and the effects are still being felt.
Politicians are scum of the earth, rich entitled people even more so...
We're allowing media to distract us. Please don't.
That part in and of itself just shows what kind of man he actually is.
Yeah, he was bragging about a failed adultery attempt that sounded kind of like E. Jean Carroll's encounter in Bergdorf's department store where Trump asked her to help with picking out a gift for another woman. weird, right?
Don't forget that when the Access Hollywood tape came out WikiLeaks - a Putin-friendly site - immediately dumped the DNC chair's Russia-hacked emails onto the internet as a distraction. Trump's guy Roger Stone was convicted on 7 counts for his part in all this. Trump pardoned him, of course.
Thank you. It's hard to win an argument with an intellectual but impossible to win with stupid
What's the old saying, "don't get into a fight with an idiot because they'll take you down to there level and beat you with experience!!!!" I hope I didn't mess that up!!!😂
@@seancastello8593 I think I already did.
@@seancastello8593 I like that one. Kind of like, "don't wrestle with a pig, you both get covered in slop but the pug loves it."
Because their ears are not attuned to truth.
In sales it’s simply, “You can’t sell stupid.”
Matthew 10:6 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves. Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.
Wild how the church model has trained people in being ignorant instead of screwed and innocent.
People LOVE him. They have finally found someone in politics just like them!
I love you guys, it’s so much crazy going on in the world and it’s nice to have some level headedness somewhere!!!
Amen!
“The encounter was caught on tape. What the tape was missing before this encounter were the Black Hebrew Israelites, who had initiated this bizarre event by engaging the teens. Most-if not all-the people who had latched on to the story had no idea about that previous encounter (including me), and that this group had kicked this whole mess off to begin with.
The story, however, became about one teen only-Nicholas Sandmann, who appeared to be grinning at a lone Native American activist, a Vietnam vet, according to nearly every media report, named Nathan Phillips, as he solemnly played his drum.
That was what our nation’s capital’s smartphones captured, and that instant narrative was what the media embraced; that’s what was uploaded to the social media universe to be viewed by millions of bored and conflict-seeking and anger-aroused people (including again, me-who had already digested two-thirds of a bottle of rosé-and if you think I’m using that as a defense, you’re damn straight I am, although I should have probably changed “rosé” to something slightly more masculine, like “a pitcher of mimosas”).
The story exploded on Twitter, like crap in a burning sack on your front porch; a minute-or-so video of a bunch of smirking teens surrounding a solitary Native American with an old-guy ponytail, obviously mocking him. What a lesson for all of us: the larger the story became, the less any facts mattered. Suddenly the whole story had “minus” written all over it.
The story became a black hole, sucking everyone, including me, in. I played the video, and in my haze, made that calculation that everyone does: “This looks awful. And because these brats are-quote-on my side-unquote-they will tarnish all of us!” The strategy, which is not an unsound one, is to police your own group, so you appear balanced when you police the other side.
So I tweeted something about how these damn kids should apologize. That way, when I go after jackasses on the left, the response that I’m an ideologue will fall flat-I can simply point out how I criticized these bratty little brat-faces. But, as it happened and as I should have predicted, my response was mild compared to others.
Twitter had become a ticker tape of rabid condemnations: celebrities demanding these teens be doxed, media making broad pronouncements once again about Trump’s America. Prominent leftists suggested nothing short of violence toward these kids as a response. So as this story spread like lice all over the thin skin of social media, the anger was uniformly targeted at the kids, especially Sandmann, and their school-resulting in death threats for these smirking jerks.
The story became the perfect symbol for a media that loves perfect symbols and simple stories. The incident, to the media, was the epitome of all that was wrong with a racist, Trump-poisoned America-an “explosive convergence,” in a New York Times phrase-of race and religion. The outrage cycle hit full bore.
The mob grabbed a rope and made for the tree. Everyone joined in, from the Washington Post to the New York Times, to Vox to your habitually enraged celebs. Jim Carrey sprinted to his canvases (he paints now, as therapy for being an asshole) and unleashed a piece of execrable art portraying the students as vile “baby snakes.”
Kathy Griffin spent her free time (of which she has lots) tracking down a picture of Covington basketball players making Nazi signs! (Turns out it was a symbol players make with their fingers when a three-pointer is made-something most people would have realized if they weren’t bat-shit crazy, or Kathy Griffin.)
Alyssa Milano, whose tweets always carry the wisdom of the canary, said Sandmann’s MAGA cap was the modern Klan hood. She said this in a tweet, hashtag: #FirstThoughtsWhenIWakeUp. See? I could laugh at them, and they’d deserve it.
They were complete minuses, taking a combustible event and happily fanning the flames. But I had also played my small part in the hysteria, too. And that embarrasses me. Which is why I must always include this error whenever I write about theirs. If not, I’d be a hypocrite and a liar.
And I can’t expect the media to learn from its mistakes, if I don’t admit my own. At first, when I saw the cropped, edited video of the drumming and the kids-I responded as many did. I saw the thing, and said, “Wow, those kids are being jerks.
They should apologize and maybe get spanked!” That tweet still exists, by the way: I didn’t delete it. I don’t believe in deleting anything, even if it’s wrong. I do believe in making restitution, which is what I did, almost immediately. When I saw the real story unfolding, I confessed my error.
I also used my platform at FNC-on The Five and The Greg Gutfeld Show-to expose my own folly while defending the real victims: the Covington kids. But for those kids, the mob was already in motion. You had the consensus media-their latest anti-Trump story ready to translate into eyeballs and advertisers who bank on the outrage churn.
The Washington Post led the way, and why not: this was a perfect story. I mean, consider all the fantastic ingredients: a bunch of mostly white Southern teens-which is three strikes already. Teens by nature are gross and obnoxious. They smell, they’re clumsy, and they take up room. Southerners-well, we know about them. And being white makes them even more guilty. In fact just being born makes them guilty.
Which is hilarious given… It was happening at a right-to-life march. And we know how the media feels about those who care about the rights of unborn people. They were wearing “Make America Great Again” caps. If you haven’t received the Milano memo, it is akin to wearing a white hood and robe.
But actually it’s worse than that. You probably drive a pickup. With a rifle rack. (And worst of all, you vote for candidates who can win.) The so-called victim was Native American-which allowed him to control the narrative from the start. I mean, if you’re the Washington Post, who are you going to believe-some awful white kids from Kentucky (Catholics, no less!), or this lone elderly Native American?
Two things, in combination, made the Covington smear work: The swarm of hate against the teens was a social media phenomenon-but it was orchestrated by the consensus-driven, activist press. One was the horse, but the other had the whip. This is when I realized you can’t just blame Twitter or Facebook. They’re just platforms there for the taking.
They can be a plus or minus. It’s not the platform spreading the story. It’s the media-whose idea of “reporting” is to read tweets and dump the lies into the garbage truck that is modern newspapers and blogs. Twitter was merely the vehicle for the toxic Big Gulp the media created.
Fact is, you need a reputable force to make the story real, and that isn’t social media. Finding stuff takes time, even for the Washington Post, and that may mean no lunch. So the establishment media resorted to social media to give the narrative sufficient gravity, before it was unleashed. (As I write this, the news broke that CNN settled with Sandmann over his lawsuit filed against them; no one outside the courtroom knows what the settlement actually is, but I’m hoping Nick got enough cash to buy a house across from Jeff Zucker, just to moon him every morning.)
Working inside the media, and standing outside of it, I see it for what it is. It’s a narrative-making machine, and it alone chooses the direction the machine takes. After watching how fast the Jeffrey Epstein saga evaporated after his death, I realized that the media picks and chooses its stories, and decides when to let them go, or turn up the juice.
You can feel the gears shifting, with almost any story. Why did the Epstein story disappear, but the Covington story explode? (Answer: one implicates people they liked, the other destroys people they hate.)
It’s no wonder the media’s popularity among the public ranks similarly to scurvy among pirates. But my lesson of rushing to judgment is your lesson now, and it led me to a solution that guides me in almost all decisions.”
- The Plus: Self-Help for People Who Hate Self-Help by Greg Gutfeld
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Great rant!
I remember Chris Cuomo saying of Sandman, "Have you ever seen a more punchable face!" or words to that effect. But the story from the get-go was all bogus, a lie, they made it up. Worse yet is they knew they made it up and they didn't care because they thought they could get away with it. They did the same thing with Kyle Rittenhouse too. I still see the usual suspects all on Social Media (FascistBook - Twit-turd a.k.a. X, et.al) accusing Rittenhouse of murder when it was obviously self defense. If you wanna say he ought not to have been there, that's a fair argument but to continue to accuse him of murder when it obviously wasn't is beyond the pale. That's why nobody trusts the Ministry of Propaganda a.k.a. Mainstream Media anymore. It's why I don't trust the Fact Checkers either. The funny thing about fact checkers is, we didn't need them before everyone in the press started all running with the same biased (and sometimes made up) narratives.
You need to edit this with paragraph breaks. I can see you have some good ideas. But they need to be separated for comprehension. Thanks. Please reply if you do, and I will attempt to reread your post.
@@yurei8 Thanks for the comment. I hope it is now fixed. Great writing from GG
Looks like the paragraph beaks didn’t stay🤷🏽
Thanks for the clarification but I'm still missing some things. 1. what part did the black hebrews play with the video scene. 2. Was the school youth's interaction with the native american negative or not? Or was it that interactions with the black hebrews put them in a negative mindstate, or was there no negativity intended?
All that being said, I want to weigh-in about the "MAGA" theme in general. When i saw the ad the very first time, of those old images. But it was not about the specific images in it, such as Joe DiMaggio, it was the time they picked as something more ideal. My very first thought in seeing it, was that, 'Those were the times when they were still lynching black people: they had separate facilities such as water fountains, rest rooms, and even separate sections in restaurants, and other public facilities. I was 14years of when those practices became illegal nationwide (1964).
Now i understand that there were some good things about those time, such strong, well paid labor unions. But some skilled labor unions could exclude black people, or 'negroes' as we sued to say, at that time. I live in a northern city, so we did not have separate bathroom facilities. but most of us had relatives in the south, that our families visited. But beyond the slogans, I have heard Trump especially, say some very negative things about people, and democrats in general. Everytime he uses the word 'democrats', it is followed by a stream of negative terms, such as marxists, communist, and other fear inspiring terms. Yet I am a christian, who attends religious services every Sunday. And i can quote some Bible passages, sometimes with the Book name and chapter, and verse number., unlike Trump. I am very concerned about the present state of our national discourse. I am also a student of history, and knowledgeable about the rise of Nazi Germany. I see many parallels. I have a BA in Sociology, so I tend to look at human behaviors from a broad perspective. Thanks.
What was the fruit of his office, good or bad? Did the country prosper, or decline?
Prospered!
Thank you for straightening out all of us blind and ignorant Christians. Really, you don't come off as condescending at all.
So Trump is a horrible human, yes. So does that mean we vote for Biden? Or don’t vote at all?
The people of Nevada had it right when they held their recent primary. When they had the choice between Nikki Haley and None of the Above, they chose None of The Above.
There is a primary ongoing right now. And if republicans were serious about wanting another choice, they’ve had plenty not named Trump over the past year. Unfortunately, they love Trump. No other way to explain what’s going on. This false reasoning about Biden is no excuse.
RFK jr. would make an excellent president.
Interestingly, Obama can’t give that same response of “People have always known that he’s a strong Christian.” 😏
WTF! Obama actually attended church, sang "Amazing Grace" live, acapella, and his speeches were peppered with scriptural references. Trump is the living antithesis of Christ Jesus in word and deed who's admitted he's never asked God for forgiveness = the true "Man of Lawlessness" who' if it wasn't for bad character, wouldn't have any character at all. Of these Spiritual fruit, which do you see in Trump: Love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Which of the 7 deadly sins, tho?
@@Travesty-qy4hv And, President Obama can present a dissertation level presentation on Old Testament scripture that could rival many credentialed Biblical scholars.
Poor lady couldn't get a word in..
1.
David: Fought Goliath.
Trump: Fights salads.
2.
David: A man.
Trump: A child.
3.
David: Repented, praised, and recognized God as the only one who can bring about justice.
Trump: "I am your retribution!"
As such, he's elevated himself about God himself and has thusly committed blasphemy.
Case closed. 👈👀
wow.
Why did UA-cam unsubscribe me from this channel? It’s good to know good Christians still exist there is always a remnant!!!! Surrounded by the Trump cult!
PolitiFacts? Enough said.
Where are your full episodes I only see parts of them now
The full podcast is up on Apple, Spotify, and anywhere else you listen to podcasts. We're using UA-cam to post clips from each episode that are easier to watch in one sitting and share with others. The full video of the episode will now be on our Patreon, but it's free for everyone www.patreon.com/posts/97986842
@@HolyPost Odd choice but ok. I only do long form stuff, so will unsub and check there every week. I did like the separate podcast/interview videos you tried though :/
I liked having the full episodes available too. I really appreciate your work.❤
@HolyPost Couldn't you do both post the full episodes and do bits? There are other podcasts that do that.
@@relgof8871 Yeah, something for everyone 😁 I don't have time for the longer vids. I LOVE these shorter ones, and I love sharing them!
I love the Holy Post
Same here
How ANYONE doesn’t just burst out laughing after Hearing Donald Trump say he’s always been a very strong Christian is beyond me.
They believe it’s blasphemy, if they do so.
But now I'm really curious about what he actually said that was truthful. I expect his percentage of lies to be far higher than that.
"My name is Donald Trump." Put that one on the True pile.
It's easy to find propaganda in the echo chamber...
but how easy is it to find the Truth?
and how easy is it to find propaganda that is the truth?
Probably not hard, in the echo chamber.
Interesting. Wondering if Holy Post would be interested in talking about our current president’s lies.
Trump was documented lying over 30,000 times. What specifically has Biden lied about? Cite references.
@@tchristianphoto If you’re serious and really want to know, have you looked that data up? If not, I can provide that information for you.
@@bman11714 You still haven't. In the meantime, Trump was documented lying over 30,000 times during his presidency and you curiously omit that.
Biden lies every time he opens his mouth.
The self-proclaimed strong Christian has been married three times, and he's brazenly cheated on all three wives, one of whom was in the hospital delivering their son during one of his escapades. Perhaps he sees himself as a strong Christian because he had all of his weddings in a church?
“Christian” in this context means membership in a cultural group, it has nothing to do with Jesus beyond the name.
@@Justanotherconsumer I'd argue that a vast majority of people who call themselves Christian, at least in the United States, would be that kind of "christian" but that's not new. My mom was born in 1935 and has said she just assumed everyone was a Christian until she was in her 20s or maybe even 30s
@@maxdanielj it’s not a new problem.
Being a “Christian” was a matter of life or death in medieval Europe.
@@Justanotherconsumer and a few centuries later it was being the "correct" kind for the region/year
There has never been a president elected to be president of the United States, that hasn't neen in, The Royal Family line, says prof Walter Veith, on the, WHATS UP PROF on his U-Tube channel--! What say you?
I’m hearing a lot of kickback against Donald Trump, and perhaps justified. I haven’t heard you say anything about the current administration. I assume you don’t support Joe Biden if you are indeed a Christian website website. But if you do support him, can you please explain that to me?
They support Biden because the talking heads on TV tell them to.
A couple Biblical truths to consider about Christian support for
Trump.
Proverbs 11:27 Whoever seeks good finds favor, but evil comes to one who searches for it.
Matthew 24:28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
The cancer of unrighteousness has metastasized and spread through our culture. The media has a role to play, and so do the pastors. Let us become mature, having discernment exercised through practice to know righteousness and promote it. God is righteous.
Deception is central to corporate culture and politics. These are not institutions based on truth so much as on the results. I spent decades living in this world. People who did the right thing were often written up, fired, laid off, and had their careers destroyed. I realised that I couldn't be that person any longer, so I retired from both and pursued ministry. The US media, political parties, and corporate America reward those who are willing to do anything to win and then feign shock and surprise when people get caught in it.
"Trumps a politician and all politicians lie" BUT WE WERE TOLD TO VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HES NOT A POLITICIAN!!!!
12,252 Palestinian children killed; Palestinian 8,663 children injured since October 7, 2023 (as of February 14, 2024) 🛐🛐🛐
#Jesus said, “Let the little #children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of #heaven belongs to such as these.” (Matthew 19:14)
It sure seems to me that the former president is one of the best arguments for the evidence of a devil working in our midst. Am awful lot of Christians are willingly being led stray by this guy.
Not all who say Lord, Lord.
Broad is the road, as they say. Can’t say that I trust in myself to find the narrow path, but I’ve got help.
Phil, thank you for talking about this. I don’t understand how people don’t see it, but maybe they don’t choose to.
The same way you overlook Biden and his incompetence by not protecting the American people.
I used to have a strong dislike of Trump. But honestly, the hatred and constant criticism quickly grew disproportionate to his real flaws. Honestly, it's hard for me to believe that anyone truly thinks Trump lies more than Biden, Obama, or Hillary.
There is a difference between spontaneous exaggeration and calculated, pernicious lies. Trump tends towards the spontaneous exaggeration. Career politicians tend towards the calculated deception. I'll take the exaggeration any day.
Project 2025 mercy
There doesn’t have to be only one entity at fault; I think Trump is certainly to blame as much as his enablers.
Thank you. Character Counts! Is the Candidate the type who puts the Country First, as did George Washington? Or does he put himself first?
They identify the two men, but the woman is... Who?
That bears all of the Hallmarks of a master manipulator,a key component of sociopathic narcissism. I know, I married one.
And I know my family members who support Trump have never even known a true narcissist. But people who have known one are much harder to manipulate by this message.
Is this Hillary and Michelle!
@writingref: I knew the moment he rode down the golden escalator.
@@hapennysparrow i knew the moment hussein stood up on stage with those Greek columns he fancied himself a god! Or they might have been Roman, none the less he thought he was a god and so did his followers.
@@hapennysparrow I wish I had understood the threat. I voted independent in 2016 because I hated Trump policy but Hillary had been careless with classified information
So it was when Trump deliberately gave away the location of one of our carrier groups just to "impress" Russian dignitaries that I began to understand the threat
What did I miss that explains why we are not getting the whole videos on UA-cam anymore?
They post on Apple and other podcast platforms now! Heck UA-cam unsubscribed me to them… I think they are a important voice for the church right now to prevent a great falling away! By the Trump cult!
@simonssays78 they may be a great voice, but they've limited their reach now. Instead of them finding you, as how I did through UA-cam suggestion, we now have to know of and search for them.
Great discussion! The devil is the father of lies, and he who makes habitual lying a regular way of life is the son of his father, the devil. We could also discuss his philandering and bragging about sexual assault (which is a crime). I don't know if you're covered this elsewhere, but Trump did go to "church" growing up. His Presbyterian pastor was the famous Norman Vincent Peale who wrote "The Power of Positive Thinking". Young Trump listened to Peale preach this every Sunday for years, and claims Peale as his pastor. Some believe that the prosperity gospel arose out of this heresy. I can tell you from experience that this philosophy ruins lives and families, because my former father-in-law was into it. Basically, if you want something badly enough, you keep after it until you get it, by any means necessary. That is considered "staying positive". You keep lying to yourself and others until it becomes true. My father-in-law was disabled in a wheelchair because of a bad spinal surgery. He spent every dime his family had traveling to every top medical facility in the country (Mayo, Johns Hopkins, etc.) trying to find some magic pill that would get him out that wheelchair. He didn't even really ask God for healing to my knowledge. He hated physical therapy, which might have given him at least some function. He just kept believing the lie that he was going to get up and walk. That never happened, of course. He died and left his wife destitute. Trump will do this to our country. All I remember about his first term was the unrest and chaos he caused. In his mind, he isn't lying...he's targeting a goal, and that's "positive".
Is trumps family ruined? Let’s compare trumps to bidens or maybe yours.
All of trumps kids seem successful and articulate. They’re not idiot crack heads like bidens. They don’t write weird things about being forced to shower with daddy in their diary
Thank You for sharing I agree!
Did you notice you have Abe Lincoln in the back ground, rolling his eyes?
Great work. No one could ever out shill the way you guys do it on the left.
Isn`t "pants on fire" an explicit phrase?
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Okay, put it this way, the only real trauma we all ever experience is, ultimately, the cognitive dissonance of facing our own narcissim. Everything else is reality. Facing our own selfish, entitled, rejection of reality, and therefore an ignorance of other's rights, and seeing the lying, weak-minded, banal evil of our own behavior, constitutes the ultimate trauma of all life, consciousness, and society.
For me, it hurts to be familiar with that, because I feel so alone in seeing it so much, all the time, everywhere. And it's impossible to explain in the moment as it happens, almost by definition. Narcissism is virtually synonymous with subconscious, willful ignorance. And there's only so far you can walk away from all the people demonstrating this openly -- a distance which is getting closer all the time. People are going to need to face their own narcissim, or society will break, and soon at the rate we're holding ourselves accountable.
Trump is a symptom, a man who uses our denials against us, because we, our culture, has the real problem, the root issue. Science and tech and philosophy have progressed faster than we have kept up with emotionally, responsibly. People are refusing to learn, because we haven't been able to manage resolving the existential pain, unfairness, and cognitive dissonance of contemporary growth. And there's so much money to be made. Some people have been left behind, badly, and our society doesn't seem to even notice until full dysfunction happens.
As part of the way we handle trauma, narcissism is an inherent part of our cognitive structure and can never be eradicated entirely. But it can be minimized. People can take responsibility for and manage the biases of their own perceptual framing. Those who can't face it will be deemed socially unacceptable soon. Or our society will likely collapse and transform into something unrecognizable.
Or maybe destroy us all.
I know that isn't typical Christian framing, but my faith doesn't allow me to ignore rational framing either. And I'm personally suspicious of people who crusade and proselytize, because I want the extended experience of friends who believe differently than myself. The structure of my denomination puts the rules of society and the good of the community before my faith. It's my job to make my faith work internally, so that the God within connects to the God without. And that's all I'm really speaking to.
@@willcool713 I resonated with your comment on Narcism being synonymous with subconscious...I'd like to pull that out and get your thoughts on everyone is a bit narcissistic, is that true in your view? And then many discussion of the subconscious mind and dealing with trauma is that the subconscious mind is programmed to protect "us" within our own bodies, our subconscious mind leads us to do things in a self-preservation sort of way, which to an outsider might look like narcissm. And another question is what is the tipping point in narcism? At what point doesn't it become "over the top" or something.
@@michaelward7051 Ultimately it's a perceptual thing, kind of relative between any two people. The real narcissist, the ones with a personality disorder, are pathological and it's virtually impossible to break through and change their perspective, ever. But narcissism is also how all of us process trauma. The first component of trauma is some event which overloads our ability to accept reality, and we deny reality instead, deny the trauma, lie to ourselves about it to avoid facing it squarely to protect our sanity. It's how we're born, it's just part of our cognition.
So, think about that. We lie to ourselves. How do we do that? How is it even possible to fool yourself? Well, it's possible because our subconscious cuts off access to the dissonance, cuts us off from focussing on our own denials, makes it difficult to really see our own behavior, until we accumulate the psychological resources to work through the trauma. Meanwhile that denial blinds us to some of the truth, and that willful blindness is ignorance, ignore-ance. That forms narcissism, the choice to exclude inconvenient details or people. That traumatized person won't be a complete narcissist, but their narcissistic behavior will still get in the way of some relationships and will look to those people like the trauma sufferer is just denying them and their voice, and may appear as a completely manipulative narcissist. It will prevent the traumatized from ever really opening up to anyone, without help.
In addition, many of us get used to our blindspots and our traumas, and forget there is anything to work on. It's a much more difficult process for adults than children, because children can reorganize their thinking more easily. And some traumas become so ingrained, may be so complicated and latched into our whole lives that working through the issue and coming to terms with it just isn't a practical solution. And some people aren't really bright enough to do the work. And some people can see the problem but find some advantage so won't deal with it. And the narcissism festers. Morality and healthy sanity are complicated to work out. Narcissism and hedonism are fun and easy, but there is a cost, and we're wired not to care. We have to learn better to be functioning members of society. Nobody is really teaching this today and the narcissistic behaviors are growing.
@@willcool713 wow. Great commentary.
I wasn’t expecting such a thorough description.
I do have an alternate view on recognizing our own trauma and its impact on our behavior.
I don’t think recognizing that is a matter of intelligence. Those that develop self-awareness are fortunate but not necessarily more knowledgeable.
Thanks for sharing.
@@michaelward7051 Yeah, there are lots of theories of mind. Mostly though, having a perspective means making choices as to how to frame the world, and that choice means putting some aspects ahead of others. Having a point of view means creating conflict. It's forever the central issue with life. Thanks for letting me share.
Trump:
Me and salads are best friends, bigly!
"The horn [trumpet, trump] threw truth to the ground." Daniel 8:12
Why did Joe the Plummer have his taxes released by Lois Lerner and get audited?
Because he dared to ask Barack Obama a question
How convenient that you missed the point.
What's that got to do with this? Besides, 45 said he was going to be honest, that he was better than Crooked Hillary and Corrupt Obama and whatever silly nicknames he comes up with. But he's not better. He can't drain the swamp because he IS the swamp. His worshipers need to stop saying "He's the only one who tells truth." He doesn't.
People actually cared about Joe the plummer? 😂
Joe "the plumber" was an obvious set up by the republicans to trick ordinary middle class Americans into voting for the party of billionaires and greed
Joe was just a citizen who was destroyed by the same party and same methods they try to use on Trump so yes I care about him deeply.
Do you care about George Floyd?
Politics are bad, because once we point out one side, we would be remiss to not discuss the other side. It's difficult to get unbiased commentary. Someone can always find something favorable about most candidates. I'm even lost today to understand what we should expect of any candidate.
Your trump impressions spot on.
Romney, kinzinger, cheney, murkowski...
Your new UA-cam format is hurting your witness. People don't know that this is part of a full podcast, and think you're just attacking Trump without explaining why.
If you're going to do this, you need to reformat how you do things. You need to actually design for videos of this length. You have lot of videos that do this.
If you want to reach more people with a traditional UA-cam format, then you need to work with them in mind. You got a lot of Trump supporters here, and you need to actually address them.
Phil, I told you he was tricksy. Stand your ground. The Lord is working on something.
There is a difference between lying and making verbal errors.
If we picked people out for their errors with the english language, no one would have a job.
Especially those mumblers in congress and senate.
Tell me why they weren't screened before giving positions, at least in their capabilities within the english language.
We literally have law makers who can't write proper english, and laws written in improper english and grammar.
There are errors of construction and errors of fact.
Errors of construction (e.g. grammar) are annoying and sloppy but ultimately don’t matter that much - if you understood what they meant, it’s kind of a whatever.
Errors of fact (e.g. horse stuff on human illness) are more damaging, but ultimately can be corrected - we all make mistakes.
The guy’s problem is not errors, it’s lies. It’s things he knows aren’t true but he says them anyway because it benefits him to make other people believe them and to make errors of fact.
I’m not thrilled about the new UA-cam format, but I understand the need for change
Great president, no matter the hysteria of the left-wing "fact checkers". I say that as someone who doesn't particularly care for him as a person. As an aside, can we get Biden to stop saying Beau died in Iraq? As a war vet I find this particularly egregious. Be nice if we could get Hilary to quit offing people she doesn't like, as well.
Great at what, exactly?
Screwing the pooch badly during a major crisis?
Trump was a failure as President. Didn’t even get his wall built.
The Beau thing is kinda… eh, yeah, he’s wrong about that - at best a service related injury but definitely didn’t die there.
As far as the “Clinton having people killed” do you have anything approaching evidence supporting that claim?
You don’t. It’s as credible as the moon landing being faked. It’s theoretically possible, sure, but going to take more than “I read it somewhere online.”
I'm genuinely curious as to how much of this you listened to or if this just popped up on your feed because the algorithm likes conflict and so you just commented without watching. Can you Steel Man their points?
Can’t fix stupid
@@writingref The entire thing. I can, and that's why I wrote "no matter. " It's also why I paren'd the word fact checkers, since even they've been fact checked as false, mostly false and even pants on fire themselves. Did you see the not so late Snopes retraction? I don't want to have a sit down tea with Pres Trump, but the state of the nation WAS in passable good order when he left.- at least a good deal better than now.
@@chocolatefrenzieya I see. And who was in charge of congress? What were the courts able to stop Biden from doing and did Biden press the issue?
You can consider these questions rhetorical if you want, but your comment treats the office of the President like a King.
The reason the Christians on this channel and others like me are terrified is because that man aims to take that sort of attitude and our discourse, and make himself king. There is a reason you already don't have any other option for the GOP nom - and its because he has already laid the groundwork for it. Its not hyperbole - its real.
There is no "lesser evil" this time. Only the republic verse its slow and subtle removal.
Kaitlyn's background is giving "studio Ghibli in real life" vibes.
I suppose you will be explaining why and how he lied in future videos, since you are obviously incapable in the current video?
Exactly. I'd love to see them prove how politifact is unbiased and how every one of Trump's "lies" really are lies.
The dude is no saint. I agree that he more than likely isn't a Christian. But the guy has done some great things. And he loves making inflammatory comments in order to make people like "The Holy Post" mad and take it out of context. Like his "dictator" JOKE.
Politifact is what they’re referring to, and it’s easily accessible.
Where to even start with Trump’s lies? The election is the obvious one, and it’s disturbing how many people believe it was “stolen” based on… no evidence at all, or evidence that really doesn’t say what people claim it says (e.g. cell phone movement data).
Hey bob the tomato have you done the research on the birther? And who started it? You are talking about truth and i figured you would want to correct your "misinformation!" Get Curly and Larry to help out. I'm waiting for your correction.
It’s pretty well known that Hillary Clinton started the whole birther thing.
You should probably go ahead and turn off the comments, like the Joe Biden admin did on day 1.
Persuasion level = ZERO.
Does nothing to engage anyone other than the already convinced.
Why is the 1st impulse to declare the "other" as a stupid idiot?
It’s difficult to engage with Trump’s supporters because they live in a separate reality and there are so few mutually agreed on points that it’s hard to start a conversation.
Faith should provide that bridge, all those that call Christ Lord should have some bare minimum common ground, but even that proves challenging.
The opening of Romans is a useful shibboleth, with some reading it as an invitation to eagerly condemn sinners and others as a cautionary parable against eager condemnation of sinners.
I appreciate the comment , @@Justanotherconsumer and that's an interesting point about Romans. And while I'd lean toward the "there's now no condemnation" camp... I know and engage with folks in both camps. You can learn how to talk effectively and bring a little unity among the camps.
And that's my point.
I'd say I'm politically homeless. And yes, I agree there are two realities happening. And yes, it's hard. Yet, here's this podcast of Christian commenters not even trying to give any regard or dignity to the other camp.
They've given up and just add to the divide.
With this I'm done:
If this podcast never asks "wait, are 40-50% of these "others" really THAT stupid, really THAT blinded & hypnotized, I mean it's soo frickin' plain as day to me but... dang, there's a lot of really super smart folks, Christian and non-Christian who are reading things as if in a separate reality from how I see things... er, waitaminute... could I be miss-characterizing sumpthin' here... could I be missing sumpthin' here? ...Maybe it's me or maybe its not me... but I'd like to try dropping my dukes and seek to understand ...ya know, strong-man their positions. And not be so flippant or dismissive. Maybe I'll try that tact."
IF they aren't willing to try that, then what's the point in listening to them any more? It's a very weary broken record.
@@thefattedcalf at some point you have to take a stand. Dr. King’s letter from jail has some unkind words for those who just want everyone to get along and maintain the status quo when others are suffering.
Just because there are people on both sides doesn’t mean both sides have equal merit. Trump and the politicized Christianity of the right are so obviously taking the name in vain that at some point we cannot be lukewarm for Christ.
Could they be nicer about it? Sure. They could also be far nastier about it.
How do you speak the truth in love to someone who believes that God has chosen such an obviously flawed person that is completely unrepentant about their flaws?
I don’t have good answers, but I also don’t have much patience left. Sometimes the most loving thing you can say to someone is to tell them to stop and tell them what they are doing is wrong.
@@thefattedcalf when we have asked the question “could we have missed something” repeatedly and not found anything but the same answer as before, frustration is inevitable.
What are the steelmanned versions of their positions? What is the steelmanned version of verifiable lies and dishonesty?
@@Justanotherconsumer when you use the word "verifiable," you reveal your judgement has been made. Will I, a complete stranger, be able to convince you otherwise? Hardly.
You said yourself that the country lives in separate realities - does one world have "verifiable lies" and the other world does not? How else can you possibly explain those people who see only the other world? You can't help but call them either stupid or blinded cult followers... or pure evil!! Dismiss them as "less than" or simply call them deplorable animals.
Design is destiny. Your system/approach destines you to separate, divide and look down.
And so also, anything I say, predictably, will be discarded bc you've told me your mind is made up.
Listen, I never voted for Trump, ok? I hated him and all things Fox news. I was frustrated to no end by both the brainwashing and the brainwashed!! I couldn't stand to sit in my mom's house w/ her husband. For years, I gobbled up and regurgitated the talking points of the Skye Jethani's of the world.
It took me over 2 and a half years kicking and screaming, to slowly expand my view... and click into a broader, more gracious, way of seeing.
Finally: verifiable by whom? Fact-checkers? Please. Here's an experiment - try watching the Michael Jackson documentary where the fact checkers verify that he was completely guilty. After 2 hours absorbing it , you'll be convinced the case is settled. Then later the next week, watch the other documentary about him where the facts show undeniably that he's innocent, ...holy post, er, I mean, smokes! You will be convinced that you had it all wrong before and now you are enlightened.
Seriously, try this experiment. And then ask , what are the implications of such a phenomenon?
Not good enough to blame the media, although it is true.
The problem is also evident in pastors who fail to be outraged and fail to bring standards of integrity to their parishioners.
In my view, too many "Christians" are looking for excuses to swallow Trump's bigotry.
Im UNSUBSCRIBING
Trump 2024, Trump is a born again Christian my church loves Trump and believes God is gonna use him to make America a Christian nation again,ame.
And that's a problem, because he has shown none of fruits of the spirit, and is still incredibly selfish and corrupt. If your church is saying he's of God, then they don't worship the God of the Bible.
Please let us not get into "Trump lies". Politicians lie - get a counter out for literally every major politician including Bush, Biden, et'all: it's astronomical...
Whataboutism, check.
“Trump is not a politician” is a lie that gets repeated frequently anyway.
not to the same scale at all.
@@StevenDavisPhoto I do not believe this discussion is productive. So tired of right wing defending him and left wing lambasting him - ridiculous.
He is absolutely comparable to every other politician, just not to the same reporting. He's a pariah, a thing to be squashed. And he's playing into their hands as a tool and a fear tactic to get people riled up.
There's also a big difference between lying and exaggerating. Trump overstates everything.
Certainly not defending this, but please realize the difference.
Get a lie counter out for Biden too, it's through the roof - also mostly exaggerating, but also outright lies (where he graduated, where he lived most of his life, where he was during certain events , etc).
Again, apply this to any politician - it's disgusting. I truly dislike them all.
@@StevenDavisPhoto Biden hired Myorkas, the border is secure guys....right. Bigger scale.
Enjoy your TDS, hope you get over it.
The difference is, Trump never truths.
Donald Trump 2024!
Fascinating arguments presented
How did the Biden administration commit treason?
@@AnthonyRochester Russia, Russia, Russia
@@mikelynn8977 can you write a sentence?
@@AnthonyRochester if you don't know what that means then your head is still in the sand and you are part of the problem!
You guys actually trust the fact checkers??? LMFAO!
This should be called the Holier than now post! You people do not understand the war we are in! Rahab the Harlot lied and ended up honored in Hebrews 11. Ponder that!
If Trump is such a liar then why is Trump able to get bank loans that are all paid or current?
Why do his ex wives have nothing but wonderful things to say about him?
His bank loans are not all paid and current. He ducked out on tens of millions of loans for his gambling halls in Atlantic City and the Russian crooks who stood in for him have evaded payments since 1999.
As for the 1,000 lies listed by these people, you want to look at them one by one: you'll find that he is, in fact, a habitual and continual liar.
Because under pressure, they all signed NDAs. You can't possibly be THAT daft.
Ummm, if you believe anything you just said is true you haven't been paying attention for the last 40 years 😂
@@DebKC-bj9jothat and Ivanka is dead... and where's her grave again?
Here’s a better question: are you aware that you’re in a cult?
These guys are going to have the most gigantic eggs on their faces, possibly in a year's time.
😂
Which guys? Why?
@@AnthonyRochesterBiden supporters.
@@michaelfoulkes9502 OK and why?
If both sides really work together behind the seems he’s been selected, he’s a n actor playing his part like all of them Hegelian dialect
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Is anyone here sharing these videos where people who support trump would see them? I want to but I guess at the end of the day I’m a chicken.
I see them, and you all are suffering TDS. This is full of hate, and criticism. Where's the positive things that Biden does? How about all the illegal people coming across the border? Has nothing to do with Trump and all to do with Biden. Biden was a dictator on day one, he opened the border and here they all come, and Texas, thank goodness for Texas. And Trump isn't a Texan!
So if you are in New York or Chicago, I bet you are struggling with your sanctuary city status.
So ignore all the real problems and fixate on a video from 2013? Maybe, an Access Hollywood video that is all about "Character"
Biden may have immpeccable character (probably not) but the results we are getting suck.
So carry on with the distractions of TDS and Christian Nationalism, and pretend you understand the minds of 75M fellow Americans, but no, no respect here from Phil and his ILK....
Nah, the people on this channel "know what is right" and if there were 1M Christian Nationalist, how do you explain the 74M that were quite contend to choose Competence over Character?
Leadership over political strategies.
Anyway, hope you all can get over your TDS, it's not good to be so angry.
I no longer fight these battles on Facebook. All it takes is one person to report you for saying something they do not like, and you are put in Facebook jail.
Bullshit.
Yes.
Pretty much every word out of Trump’s mouth is exactly that.
Yes, that's trump's speciality and has been for decades. The only reason he ran for president as a Republican even though he's been supporting Democrats since the 1980s (even both of the Clintons) is he knew that the people who tend to vote Republican are poorly informed and easily manipulated
From a scriptural point of view, who are we to expect as a leader who lies? You are talking around the issue, without pointing out the obvious. I get that you do not want to offend. Too bad.
If you actually believe even a little bit or even most of what you're saying, wow, you think you know what you're talking about but you have no clue. You just go along with believing everything you're told to believe. And a whole lot of what you said was a bunch of BS lies. Things you made up.
What part is a lie? What support do you have to prove it is false?
Stupid
What did they make up? Please provide a list.
Did it ever occur to you that YOU might be the one believing what you are told? That you only believe what you want to be true?
@jsharp3165.
Good grief! Really? Both sides lie like it’s going out of style. They’re politicians for goodness’ sake! Constituents lap it up like cats at a bowl of cream. And that includes YOU!!
One could make a video just like this for almost any other politician. It’s like informing us the sky is blue.