WHY BATMAN THE LONG HALLOWEEN IS THE BEST ANIMATED COMIC ADAPTATION
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- " Batman The Long Halloween Part One " is finally here. If you didn't already know, the movie is one half of a two part adaptation of one of the most beloved Batman comic series.
An origin story for some of The Dark Knight's Greatest Foes.
Join me as I take a look back at this great who done it --- featuring the likes of:
Joker
Catwoman
Two Face
and of course:
Calendar Man
Batman: The Long Halloween is one of the most iconic and beloved Batman comic books----
Did the movies live up to that hype?
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Harvey's backstory is always interesting to see. Its about a good man whos provoked to do bad things.
It's always great to see when it's done well
It is really tragic when you really look at it. Gotham is a disgusting, crime ridden city where people probably can’t go out for a stroll without getting mugged. It’s full of criminal masterminds that thrive off of other peoples pain and misery. Then comes a man named Harvey Dent. A well mannered selfless individual who (unlike most politicians) has a clear desire for the city to be cleaned up and fixed. He wants it to be a place where people don’t have to constantly live in fear. He could be the saving grace that the city has needed for decades. The people love him. He is allied with the police and the caped crusader. Everything is looking great for him. But unknown the the public eye is that Harvey has been dealing with a split personality all his life and has spent it trying to keep it locked away. After being suspected of killing Luigi Maroni, acid is thrown on his face and he is both physically and mentally scarred from it. His career is over. The anger, sadness, shock, and confusion combined is enough for his split personality to take over. The man who was once what Gotham truly needed, a man with a strong desire to do the right thing, has now become another victim of the city and becomes one of its most dangerous criminals. Everything he fought for now means nothing and he has become the thing he had tried so hard to stop
@@ViniciusJunior17 Yea unlike the suicide squad
In the comic, when Holiday kills Sal Maroni, it’s revealed to be Alberto Falcone, who confesses to being Holiday and faking his own death. When Harvey is being arrested, his last words to Batman and Gordon are “There were two Holiday killers”. Batman says that since he killed Carmine, in a sense they were both the Holiday killer. Then we end with Gilda burning the evidence and having an inner monologue about why she became the Holiday killer. Batman is NOT in the scene, Gilda has NO prior connection to Alberto, and in the end we honestly don’t know which two were the killer, or if all three were the killer. Bruce and Selina do NOT know each other’s identities, and her loyalties are ambiguous. There is also a fun scene where Carmine brings in The Riddler to deduce the identity of Holiday. When he fails to do so, Carmine has him thrown out, Holiday shows up, and shoots around Edward leaving him alive, on April Fool’s Day. Beyond that, the movie is extremely close, borderline word for word.
Oh, there is also a funny bit at the end where Alberto gets a cell across from Calendar Man and they just glare at each other saying “Calendar Man” “Holiday” back and forth.
Yeah this movie fucked up the most important aspects. And then the ultimate sin, they had Batman fkn let Gilda go after she literally just confesses to killing.
Hilda ending in the comic is just stupid considering big chunck in the book was in hear brain and her killing after being bombed is so beyond suspension of disbelief I couldn't believe I liked that book at the start. Loeb is a hack who couldn't write way before Ultimatum.
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 no
@@Jose-se9pu and?
@@mikhaelgribkov4117 just no
I didn’t even realise there was a post credit scene for the first one so I was so fucking confused when I started part 2 and suddenly Ivy has Bruce under her control
Long Halloween adaptation: I’m the best of them all.
Dark knight returns adaption: hold my beer.
Yeah, I love Dark Knight Returns. Its just so damn good.
Agreed, and Red Hood adaptation was great. Also enjoyed Flashpoint Paradox. This one is my least favorite.
All Star Superman enters
@@dadeleemurphy85 i agree new frontier is fucking amazing
@@dadeleemurphy85 damn that’s such a good one too! I can’t believe I forgot about new frontier, that and DKR are for sure the best dc adaptations.
Jenson Acklees - from a small part in smallville.
This man was on Supernatural for 13 years lmfao
The Long Halloween is a must read. That and Dark Victory. My mom bought me long Halloween years ago, and that is the book that got me into batman and comics in general. Top 5 all time for sure...he's young because it takes place not too long after Batman Year One...
Eh, I don't know, maybe there were comic storylines in between? Because when fi Joker, Penguin, Ivy, and all those other villains. Sure they introduced Joker at the end and Catwoman and Falcone were pretty prominent, but when did everyone else show?
It does take place a long while after Long One my friend. Long Halloween was NEVER a sequel to Year One. Just a tale in Batman's "early years" (not first year mind you). As the poster said, it's a story that has his entire rogues gallery already. But it doesn't have Robin. You even read Dark Victory and knows this.
Get your facts right.
Batmans early years. So ipso facto, not long after year one. Not talking production date, but in story cannon.
@F-Red Maverik I mean, it isn't a direct sequel, but the creators of the long Halloween and Dark victory have said that it was their intention to create somewhat of a sequel or a spiritual successor to Year One and show the transition between organized crime and supervillains. That was actually the pitch for the book. The forward of the graphic novel is the story of how Archie Goodwin went to Jeff Loeb and Tim sale and told them they should essentially make a sequel to Year One since Frank Miller was probably never going to do it. So you might want to calm down a little bit on telling other people to get their facts right. Lol
Also, if anyone wants to see at least how the Joker was introduced then they should check out The Man Who Laughs which fits pretty nicely in between Year One and The Long Halloween.
Falcone: WHAT IS THIS??
*Two Face kicks down the door*
Two Face: Judgement Day...
This line suits Harvey incredibly well.
Harvey Flexing lol
That’s such a powerful line
I hope we get a Knightfall adaptation so Bane gets the recognition he deserves (besides Tom Hardy)
Yes that would be good. This Batman is still early in his career. The next movie is definitely gonna introduce Dick grayson
Plus reintroducing his lucha libre roots
I had anxiety about this mainly due to the Killing Joke adaptation left when it comes to classic stories adapted in the DCAU that I had to think about. So, I hoped especially with Jensen Ackles who I not only grew up with into a young adult as Dean Winchester got older on Supernatural but knowing he was graduating from Under The Red Hood to play a younger Dark Knight, damn perfect casting for one of the greatest stories of the Genre. On a side note: With DC venturing into a live action cinamatic Multiverse there's many classic DC heroes Jensen could play but Imo he would be perfect as a new Batman down the line. Big fan of Batfleck and now it seems Keaton will be a more jaded version of his Dark Knight. Ackles has all it takes to be a great Bruce Wayne and Batman. I see him as a veteran Batman but still a more optimistic Batman than say what 20 years has done to Batfleck in BVS.
I enjoyed this adaptation. I agree. Despite it being a story that could have 2 parts I say give us a 2 disc DVD set then! Great upload. The best way I can support this channel at present is by giving you a share. From Batman, to wrestling, to classic sitcoms etc I binge this channel so much. Please keep the uploads coming 👍
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Not only Killing Joke, they butchered Hush, Red Son, and many others...luckily, it wasnt the case here
@@Jose-se9pu Expectations were just too high, the killing joke is not bad if you watch it again but the animation makes the characters feel hollow.
The long halloween movie get Batman's character wrong and they make him seem like a bad detektiv because they dumb him down so much they have to ask calendar man.. It's just lazy writing and the only reason it did better is because people had low expectations and I guess it did better than what most people expected maybe.
@Gustaf Batman goes to Calendar Man in the comic. Asking someone for psychological insight isn't bad detective work. Long Halloween is also around Year 2 for Batman. He shouldn't be God tier yet.
All I can say is, I really like the art style.
I almost completely agree with you about the ending of the movie. Gilda being the Holiday killer makes sense. What didn't make sense was how different Holiday actually looked when on screen. She looked more like Harvey Dent. They should have darkened the character so that we couldn't get a good look at her. I still don't think it makes the movie any less enjoyable, though. It just prompts me to give a friend who wants to watch the movie a heads up: Don't focus on the look of Holiday when trying to figure out the killer. It'll make the movie much more enjoyable.
What’s weird to me is in the book the killer on the boat was Harvey
@@justfilms9077 I haven't read Long Halloween myself, but from what I heard about this story, Alberto was Holiday in the comic (or at least the #1 suspect).
Does that mean Harvey killed Holiday/Alberto at the boat scene in the book? Or does that imply that Harvey was actually Holiday more so than Alberto? OR is the boat scene entirely different in the comic? :o
@@FoxsDumbSeriesMakerI’ll give you my best interpretation because the book wasn’t 100% clear. I’m pretty sure the first Holiday was Gilda. Later Harvey joined in, the boat might have been his first “killing” it seems from there I’m not sure if Harvey let Alberto live or if Alberto survived, but Alberto did become holiday afterwards and was the one arrested for it. I have to read the book again to be sure. It’s also possible that Harvey was never holiday or didn’t consider himself holiday but he was the “killer” on the boat. Hope that helps a bit
@@justfilms9077 Thank you for explaining. I recently learned that there were _two_ Holiday killers in the comic, so the fact that the killer on the boat in the movie _not_ being Harvey is so strange. I haven't seen this film in a while, so maybe there was a possibility of Harvey being the killer in _that_ particular boat scene for some reason? Gilda just happens to be Holiday in most other scenes?
32:36 - Holiday, imo, was drawn specifically to look like The Shadow.
The original Superhero Detective ..who inspired the creation of the Batman character.
Who bob Kane copied.
@@Koichi-Kun Not really. And Bill Finger's ideas make batman vastly different from the shadow.
@@FredMaverik yeah bill is epic
To me, Mask of the Phantasm is by far the best Batman movie. Bruce's proposal to Andrea was the best moment possible
For someone who keeps calling himself our least favorite youtuber you consistently keep delivering just the kind of bat-content I love. Your analysis are so thoughtful and thorough, I would love to see your take on the Batman Telltale games 8D Either way thanks for the awesome job ;)b
Speaking of Ackles: I just finished watching TFS's DBZ Abrigded series, and the whole time I was thinking Ackles and Padalecki would make an excellent Vegeta and Goku respectively.
This is honestly one of the greatest Batman Animated Movies I've ever seen along with the Dark Knight Returns
This is my favorite Batman comic! Also if this gives you The Dark Knight vibes, it's because the book was a lot of the inspiration for that movie
And Batman Begins (though inspired more by Year One).
@@osmanyousif7849 indeed
I wish more comic writers would really lean into the whole Duela Dent idea with Harvey. It would be a great oppourtunity to give him some extra-development. And hey, it could chock up her weird “Daughter of…” phase. She saw her dad had a split personality and thought she had one as well, but rather than creating her own she adapted other criminals.
I did appreciate Harvey’s subtle shifts and microexpressions
The art from The Long Halloween comic is some of my favorite comic art, top 3 favorite
These animators are the same for Justice Society and Man of Tomorrow. I love them
I'm so hyped for this to come out in 2 ½ weeks
Just finished part 1 and 2,and I must say that I loved it.
Wait didnt this come out already
@@MichelangeloVA there was also a review of part 2 alone
@@MMDAQ oh so he combined both videos into one
Yup.
Just like The Long Halloween was split into two and then released together (or will be), so too Vee’s retrospective.
This seems to be a review of part 1 before part 2 came out
The Long Halloween and Dark Victory is a must read my guy
So far, these newer DC animated films have been so much better than the New 52 Era of films. This universe is shaping up quite well!
Im surprised because I also noticed the rain but I thought it sounded great. Like the sound design of the rain drops tapping Batman's cape or the windows was nice.
The style really reminds me of Man of Tomorrow, which was also a favorite of mine. Injustice also had a similar style but since it's bright 24/7, it really sticks out
Supposedly this is in the same universe as Man of Tomorrow.
Both are part of Tomorrowverse
Kinda reminds me of The Dark Knight Returns. It too was turned into a two-part epic with really food voice acting, a lot of action and Roboc- I mean Peter Weller as Batman.
Holiday Killer has completely different eyes, facial structure, and body structure which is only a point because as you said the disguise is limited. Overall it just isn't believable that she could be the killer in this version because she doesn't look different enough to pass and the killer's disguise doesn't do enough to hide the fact that it's her in a meaningful way; especially with the eyes.
Duuuuude, you are missing out. Long Halloween and Dark Victory are some of the best graphic novels that they've ever put out.
Yeah honestly I didn't like these movies at all because of how good the comic was, if they only had stuck closely to the source material and hadn't changed the story so much it would've been perfect. The fact that this movie basically cancels out the possibility of dark victory getting adapted is a big negative for me
They're not graphic novels chumbucket they're trade paperbacks collected from issues of Legends of the Dark Knight.
@@Frogman1212 Long Halloween and Dark Victory were miniseries on their own. Not connected to LOTDK at all. Unless you're talking about the other Year One style work by Loeb and Sale?
@@YakBat As the old legends say..... It takes a chum bucket to know a chum bucket. And yeah 'Haunted Night' is what I was thinking of.
@@Frogman1212 Did someone delete their comment?
Yeah, I also wasn’t to big on the change made when Bruce and Harvey burn Carmine Falcone’s money.
In the comic, Bruce/Batman and Harvey decided to burn the cash at once. Catwoman never gave them the idea (Plus, why would she be casually carrying a match with her?) Also, why would Bruce give Harvey the coin, or even why does he even need a two-headed coin to begin with? In the original story of Harvey Dent, the coin was a family heirloom given to him by his abusive father who is the reason for his schizophrenia, bipolar, and identity disorder he suffers from. That coin is meant to be for him to flip whenever he’s stressed out, remembering his father, and a symbol of his inevitable fate in the future. But by having Batman give him the coin for literally no reason other than because, feels kind of dumb.
If they really wanted this scene, it should have been just after Bruce/Batman and Catwoman find the money, he calls up Harvey, they have their talk, Batman says to burn it for it’s the only way, and Harvey isn’t very sure so decides to pull out the coin and say, “Heads, we burn it.”, except only he knows that it’s two-headed, showing the darkness arriving in him.
Well shoot. That's a pretty big change to Harvey's character, given how important the coin is to him. I never knew that detail about Two-Face, so yeah, it's really dumb how Batman just gives him the coin instead for the film.
Batman: Year One Batman: The Long Halloween Catwoman: When In Rome Batman: Dark Victory Robin: Year One Batgirl: Year One Batman: Three Jokers Batman: Arkham Unhinged Batman: Bloodstorm Catwoman: Guardian of Gotham
Happy holiday!
I love how in this movie they made colander man a at best joke villain into some really unsettling
The blue and grey batsuit in the comic is probably my favorite bat suit ever and it’s sad they changed the suit for the movie
That last clip is adorable
1:57 jealous riddler screeches
If you had read the comic, then you would know that Gilda was the killer in the comic.
After watching part one, I feel like I just want to see Batman, Grundy sitting and eating with each other. Maybe make them drinking tea lol.
The new live action Batman movie should definitely have this line "criminals are superstitious and cowardly lot". Because from what I saw second trailer this Batman definitely looks like a nightmare whom cowardly and superstitious criminals will fear.
Dark Knight Returns, Year One, and Under the Red Hood are way better adaptions IMO.
dark knight returns was ruined by superman
@@kevv5147 how?
Agreed.
The thing you pointed out about characters like Scarecrow and Mad Hatter just being there and not having a real purpose is one of this adaptation's biggest failings imo. The comic frames the turning of Harvey Dent into Two Face as also the turning of Gotham from a normal crime ridden city into the absolute hellhole run by supervillains that we know it as. The Long Halloween is a Gotham City origin story, and the supervillains slowly becoming more and more present as the mobsters get picked off is a huge part of that. They added a lot more action to the climax when the comic just revealed Two Face for the first time sitting at the Roman's desk surrounded by all of Batman's rogues. It's an absolutely iconic image and this movie really dropped the ball with that aspect of the story.
"Joker's yeye-ass haircut... Niggaaaaaaaaa" Goddamn im done lol
As someone who’s never read the comic, I found the movie sort of underwhelming. I do wish they used the unique catwoman design though (know of it from Arkham)
I dont think you need to know the comic to make a video on it but the fact that you keep referencing it, and then saying I havent really read it, makes your opinion hold less weight to me
I appreciate the funny correction on his name at the end lol
The mystery of who's the villain reminded me a lot of the game Heavy Rain, where the body habitus of the killer changes tremendously when masked and unmasked. I totally agree it's a dirty trick by the animators just to throw off audiences. This is not a way the freedom that the animation medium offers should be leveraged.
Even Mask of the Phantasm pushes the limits of suspension of disbelief that the Phantasm, who relatively matches Batman's build, can be the much smaller Andrea. Shoulder pads and lifts can't fake it, but for some reason this movie and Heavy Rain irked me much more.
I hope they come out with the sequel "Dark Victory".
But without Mark Hamill playing The Joker or Conroy playing Batman, it's not. It's still second best
Troy Baker did an okay job, would have prefer him as Dent/Two-Face like he did in the Arkham games, but Duhamel did great too.
Truth in advertising, it was indeed very long.
my only problem with this movie was that it was kind of obvious who holiday was from the beginning of movie 2. Kind of. Spoilers:
If you look at the closeups of holiday, it’s clearly Harvey. From the sideburns to the facial structure to the buildup, it felt so obvious
Oh no, I slept in for two weeks
The movie is a top 5/7 favorite out of all the movies in the DCAU. Keep up the great work!
Respect your opinion
best one for me is. Dark night return part 1&2
Then
Under the red hood
Your review was spot-on (well, except for that “Ack-Leez” goof😃); I enjoyed it very much. I’ve subscribed! Keep up the excellent work.
I was going to say the art style was reminiscent of archer/early venture bros.
Calendar Man looking like Judge Holden
not related to Batman, but, I'd love if Marvel did animated adaptation of comic stories like DC has done. Like, how much would I love an animated adaptation to Kraven's Last Hunt, or Maximum Carnage
The only thing I didn’t like was that even by Part 2, nobody was even suspecting the actual killer, what, because she’s a woman? Even though she literally lives with their main suspect, and obviously once they catch two-face in the alley and see Holiday and Harvey in the same place at the same time, and EVEN CONSIDER THAT IT WAS A HIRED HAND, they still never considered Gilda. It’s just the only thing that really bugged me.
Jensen was my favourite Redhood,Now is my favourite Captain America 😎
I think the second part is better than the first part because harvey's story is so good. I just watched this movie and gotham knights recently, and harvey dent has become one of my favorite characters now. I hope he's in the batman part II, I suspect he will be because reeves said he's taken inspiration from the long halloween in his adaptation.
Ok I'm sure the last minute change for the holiday killer was done due to release date deadline that and or quite a number of remakes of the endings, they could've done far better with it
The scene at 4:01 … I love imagining Batman siting in the court room in his full fuckn rubber and leather get up pretending to be normal
Ending part one after Albertos death makes perfect sense if you read the source material
Happy Holiday.
Jensen Ackles is also Dean in supernatural and Soldier Boy in The Boys , great actor
Do Mask of the Phantasm.
It's my all time favorite Batman movie, and I'd argue the best.
He did.
Happy Holidays
happy holiday bro
Happy Holiday
Funny enough the guy who plays calender man plays polka-dot man in the suicide squad who in a scene gets made fun of by calender man
merry christmas
It’s good. Great even. But not better than Under the Red Hood or The Dark Knight Returns
THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS IS THE BEST
Hope there will be new future Batman animated movies ???
Harvey was holiday until the final kill. The final kill was to prove he wasn’t holiday so she dressed up for him that’s why the eyes weren’t shown at the end.
Not in this version of events.
Can't wait to hear your opinion
Here’s my opinion …. Part 1 is easily my favorite Batman animated movie of all time… I love the ambiance that reminds me of The Batman and I like this movie’s take of the dark knight himself (I love young Batman stories so)… but part 2 is not so great tho… i feel like everything is rushed
Of course he’s good as Batman. He tells you that he is Batman in supernatural.
I guess I'm the only one who thought this movie sucked in comparison to the comic. Which was amazing.
I honestly can’t believe more people didn’t get Joker’s daughter as soon as they saw it
35:37 it should’ve been a series adapting the novels, and then later, the movie should’ve adapted just the game
4:15
Can we give batman some respect for giving robin a milkshake?
I dont think WB did 2 parts because its called long halloween. They did like 2 years of Injustice in 1 movie. I guess if its Batman they want to get it for all its worth, anything else they pretty much don't care.
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You need to read the long Halloween all the way through and it's continuation is the dark victory Yes the long Halloween is two faces origin story but it's it's a story you really need to very close attention to where you have to pick up every clues page by page and put it up to your crime web/map and figure out the direction of where this case is lean towards now there will be some red herrings on who the real killer is in the long hallway but I promise you two face is tied together in the long Halloween and in dark fit three however at the end of long Halloween it's going to blow your mind on who the real second killer is, also in dark victory when you put those clothes that you already know from long Halloween together and bring it over to dark victory it just becomes more bigger when you see and focus on Harvey dent as two-faced in dark victory and then there's this new lawyer in town it will make you question if she is the second real killer from dark Halloween/a strong connection to Harvey Dent's past however again you need to read the long Halloween comic from beginning to end before you really enjoy or compare the movie adaptation of long Halloween.
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How are you gonna mention his role in Smallville, ANS IGNORE SUPERNATURAL BRUH
Read the graphic novel it's wonderful. It's my #3 favorite Batman books.
That panel with Batman using the megaphone asking about the Joker contextually isn't as goofy and make Batman look incompetent in the actual comics it's in but it's also from No Man's Land which is a two year long cross over across all the Batman books and spinoffs like Robin, Nightwing, the mute 90s Batgirl, Azreal etc. So it's a really complex story that justifies why Batman is using a megaphone to ask about the Joker.
The short version is: Gotham had it's worst earthquake ever that made the city a more unlikeable hellhole with zero in tact infantructure. It destroyed Wayne Manor, the Batcave and all Bruce's wonderful toys. Batman as Bruce goes to the Washington D.C. to request aid, they annex Gotham instead and set up a military checkpoint around it where nobody can get in or out and make it illegal for Bruce to use his money to help so he has these same asshole politician's giving his bank accounts scrutiny so he can't really use his money like he usually would.
Batman returns to Gotham, and it's taken over by various supervillains who have set up little fiefdoms under their protection. The Joker isn't one of them. Batman now basically has to work out how to take back over Gotham without his technical or financial advantage and the citizenry hating him for disappearing and letting costume bozos basically become warlords who control all the food and water.
The Megaphone thing is basically Batman showing back up and letting everyone know he's back and he's going to war with the costumed bozos because he isn't just stealhly fighting crime he has to become the guy who Gotham as city relies on by replacing these supervillain warlords and supporting the citizens through basic human needs like food and water. Throughout the comic he does that megaphone thing to reach as many people as possible who have information he can use to help them.
The Joker specifically isn't a warlord, but is around and we follow him throughout the comic planning... something they we don't find out about until the last part of the event. Batman occasionally discovers evidence about him being around which is usually long dead corpses but no sign of the Joker himself. Batman is absolutely desperate about any lead he can get on the Joker to stop whatever he's doing cause it will undoubtedly be really bad...and it is.
Sorry for the novel about a meme panel, it just makes sense in context and that's about as much as I can simplify it to make sense. No Man's Land is really good, y'all should pick it up if you want a really solid long running Batman storyline that puts Bruce and co into an entirely different situation then they're used to and meticulously planned storytelling done really well.
Where does the art at 00:56 come from? Doesn’t appear to be any of the Batman x Sherlock comics I’ve seen
The scene in the dark knight was actually inspired and a reference to the long Halloween
Maybe it’s time to read the Long Halloween
I loved this movie honestly
Batgirl is in here for a lot longer but she was only in a comic once
Bro I watched this on HBO max and the poison ivy scene wasn’t even in it.
Happy Holiday :P
Happy holiday