It's actually a really much better format, in my opinion, to show why something is wrong instead of saying "this is how you do it". You really never foresee the problem areas with DIY videos. Thanks for doing it this way and shout out to the owner for being man enough to admit he was in over his head.
100%. This is how i think most of us learn, especially me. I question everything, so understanding WHY is always paramount for me. When someone says "do it like this because I do" doesn't tell me why it is done that way and for what reason.
You are truly a good man! I've been in the trades for 50years and you have humility and patience. One very important traits for any trades man. He's very kind with this man.
I'm just discovering your channel. I've done around 7 kitchen & bathroom tear-outs & renovations. I gotta tell you that you're always calm, professional and humble with your approach. It would've been easy for a contractor to make this homeowner feel like an idiot but you presented yourself as a caring professional who just wants to help. I really enjoy your videos, keep them up man. Great Job!!
Yeah! Imagine if doctor yell and cursing you for drinking alcohol and eat fastfood. This how some contractor insult their hirer. People make mistake. This is the 1st bathroom. Contractor probably went throught dozen mistake before make it right. Tiling is hard work and it probably took you some trial and error - learning tips before get to do it correctly.
In management, we always called that a “compliment sandwich”; start with positive, constructive criticism in the middle, and positive on the tail end. People are much more receptive this way. Good job with professionalism with that client. 👍🏻
I am a contractor and for clients who want to try diy I always say go ahead and point them in the right directions. Worst case scenario they hire me to fix their work and they had a chance to learn
Can't screw up unless you try. Kudos to the homeowner for trying. I remember my first tile floor when I became an overnight contractor way before youtube; I laid down the tile over laminated plywood, and it looked great. The next day I came back, and all the plywood buckled and popped the tile. The homeowner was very understanding, and my friend, an actual tile guy, saved the day. Sal and yourself have great channels; I have watched you and Sal evolve over the years.
@@dghcnu07 you are out of your mind. He didn't do anything even remotely good. He did something that he didn't know how to do instead of finding out the proper way to do it BEFORE he started. Homeowners are the worst when they "try" to save money.
Big shout out brother, you've got me through so many jobs with excellent results...self taught and refined by you. Appreciate all the time and energy spent over the past few years. Thank god for UA-cam University...best money i've every not spent!
Thanks for the mention Isaac, it is never as easy as it looks, best to start with a small project before jumping into something like a large shower stall. Critical to understand the limitations of the tools and products we use.
True words there Sal. Experience gained in those smaller projects will pay dividends in a large project after you have learned how the tools and materials work together.
I am not even looking into bathroom remodeling right now but I like your communication and humility so much that I gotta watch a few videos hoping I will learn a bit!
Oh the amount of things I’ve had to demo for homeowners that tried doing this type of stuff. Cheers for him trying with the schluter systems and even floating.
I've watched two videos from this guy. He seems highly knowledgeable and compassionate. I like the way he exemplified the good aspects of this particular home owner's attempt, yet didn't shy away to point the faults. I'm going to subscribe to the channel.
I am a DIYer and have done several big project to before, so this was not my first rodeo. I did my own oversize shower. It turned out great, but I will admit that it was more work and time than I originally planned on.
Thanks for your videos, in November 2018 we noticed a fault with our toilet and shower area. By the time the insurance and my plumber went back and forth it was another 3 month before I got a no from the company. At the same time our city got hit with a major flood and hundreds of homes were inundated. (Good luck getting a tradesman after that) Away just about finished the bathroom/toilet renovation thanks to yourself and other skilled youtubers. It's not perfect but it will do. Sure beats the porta potty and shower that we have been forced to use for the last 8 months.
I love all these videos and am currently building my first shower from scratch with Schluter. As a novice I have watched, 2, 3, 4 times over videos to make sure I am doing each step correctly and in order. A little patience and attention to detail goes a long way. That gap on the kerdi band on the wall is hurting my eyes! Thank you for making these videos!
You saved me a lot of headaches. I have people ask me how do you have so much experience and I tell them because I did it wrong to learn to do it right! Lol. Great content!
I would agree with your stance on getting into the trades. Im a former engineer, quit 2 years ago doing contacting and portable sawmill work... much more rewarding. We have a few videos here and there, which certainly adds to the fun as I'm sure you know
Same! Mechanical engineering degree and 4 years in to the real world I had to adjust. Renovating kitchens and bathrooms is so much more rewarding! The engineering education helps tremendously too
Making your walls plumb starts with plumbing your studs so that your drywall/backboards are also plumb. Bathroom renovations aren't easy. Probably the hardest room in the house to renovate.
Isaac, are you going to record the whole process of fixing this shower and the end result? As for the owner, good for him on trying and knowing when to call an expert.
Thanks Isaac! Have been watching you and Sal for a bit now. About to start marble tile on my show now, been learning everything through UA-cam. You guys are UA-cam Tiling masters, thank you for you time and knowledge!
I'm kinda in the same issue, almost 2 years working on a custom shower can't find a professional to come out and it's just a huge project. And I'm very worried it's not gonna be leveled right so these bids definitely help
I think the kerdi was giving so much bc you were applying a lot of pressure in a 1/2” area. I’ve used that board a few times and once tile sets it’s pretty solid (if done correct) As far as any walkway you gotta use concrete board
I've had too many call backs on kerdi that others have installed in commercial buildings. Not very good stuff. Old school wall mud and floor mud or I don't do it but that's just me.
@@philllindauer5006 You probably fix more showers made the old school way. But Kerdi does require an educated installer and most are not. When done right, the system is great and backed by the manufacture.
Just wanted to echo the comments on your kind manner with the homeowner who found himself in over his head. Showers, niches, those are deep water projects.
Can't stress this particular video enough. I've built out an entirely gutted bathroom, down to the studs and floor/ceiling ripped out to basement and attic in a rancher. Reinstalled everything including window lintel, copper, electric. Lime plaster for top half of walls, ceiling, all good. Used Schluter-Kerdi membrane over cement board and custom mud pan. Tested no leaks, all good. I get to the final days... now going on a month fighting the uneven wall, wet shimming and doing the finish work by hand, sometimes tile at a time, all because the walls are slightly off plumb, not floated, and every single half cut is custom losing at least half a tile to waste. It's the simple things... Not bad for my first tile effort however... just super slow, constant fight.
Always start with the positive! I am really enjoying taking on tiling as another trade to help my custumers(fans). I've been doing interiors for 10 years but always subbed it out. I've learned ALOT about prepping and now really enjoy tile as I'm very OCD and flat walls and floor means you can be, who would know? Thanks for the videos!
So I really hoped to see some "how to" on floating that wall. Great job but this and the follow-up don't show how to float a wall. I hope you have one on that I can find. You do a great job explaining and showing things in your videos, keep it up!
9:40 Even you can push Kerdi with your fingers it doesn't mean it's weak because point pressure can be huge but when there is tile over it pressure will distribute much larger area. Example EPS under concrete slab you can make huge dents to it by finger but still it bear car above. Don't you have quick set concrete that you can pour curb no need to mess with wood and some boards.
The 2×4 acts as a straight edge to follow. Doing a concrete curb would still require 2×4s as a form. In fact it would require more of them and then you would throw them away. It's much better to use the wood. A single 2×4 on edge is the best
Kerdi board is meant to go on studs without drywall. I am certified by Schluter for shower installs. However, that isn't how they talk about how to do curbs. I don't know if this guy has taken a schluter course, but with that specific point he is wrong
Best curb on the market: KBRS Hard Curb. Don’t understand how other brands can get away with simply selling a block of foam as a curb for so much especially since you can’t drill into it and expect a solid grab.
I gutted my master bath to the metal studs and concrete slab (like we have in far South Fl) and rebuilt it. Tile shower and all. 'Floating' Inovis bench, arched niche. Direct drain. Troweled on water proofing over .5" duroc, niche, bench shampoo shelf. And not the red, paint on stuff! I lived there for 4 more years and I know it was done correctly. By me. With a lot of online reading. So 124 lb lady can do lots of things, if they want to. The only outside physical help I had was installing shower rated fan/light. And I was the one who rearranged the duct to outside in ceiling when he said it could not be done. And there was much more to bath redo than shower. It was the selling point of a all around beautiful condo. And needed no Realtor.
Building trades can be a fulfilling career. I wish I would have had internet and you tube when I was young and considered the trades instead of going into corporate America which was a paycheck to paycheck trap for me.
First time viewer, Bro i love your vibe. Its very apparent you know your trade, and yet, you, don't subscribe to the pompous, knucklehead attitude that you meet in the home improvement(out of control) industry.80% of contractors i meet belittle their clients or employees on a regular basis without reservation. in my opinion, for a young dude ,you got it figured out. its about integrity , respect and a work ethic. keep doing what you do. a flipper in Cali side note: kerdi "blows" over priced. rather build without it
You might discuss the option of pulling the Kerdi board off the walls and sistering studs onto the existing ones to get a straight wall. Metal studs tend to run pretty straight or just run some boards thru a table saw.
Ok so I'm a Warehouse Worker, But an automotive technician by trade. I wasn't happy with the trade so much because cars are a hobby and I can already see I would get tired of doing the same basic repairs all day every day. I am a musician and I always have too many hobbies. But I love to be creative, the tile trade looks fun to me! I used to co-own a pool service business when I was younger, I am 31 years old. And whenever we got to re-tile the top edge of a pool, it was always good fun for me! Im interested in doing something different with my life.
It's very tough to continue a wall/ floor that has with leveling clips that have dried over night. The next row of tiles helps level out the previous row. This becomes difficult if the previous row is dry. Issac. Who stocks denssheild in roseville/ rocklin? I tried to find some for a previous job and couldn't find anyone with it in stock. I have a curb on a current job that I was going to cap with kerdi. I think I want something firmer. Travis
@@TileCoach Thanks for the heads up. So, what's really going on with you and schluter? The reason I ask is because a month or 2 ago you posted a video on the best way to build a shower. That shower had kerdi board/panel on edge for the shower curb. This shower has basically the same thing yet you say it's no good. I say basically because they both had kerdi board and were both approved by schluter. I am sure if you pressed on the curb of the previous shower it would flex just like this one. Not trying to call you out or nothing. I am on your team. I am thoroughly not impressed with kerdi after seeing the water test that you have done. I am going to make shower pan mockup. One side will be made with schluter thinset and the other with versabond. I mention all this because I am a perfectionist. I am always looking for a better way, as I believe you are. It drives me nuts when someone says that this is the best way and then sometime later they say it's wrong. Reminds me of not touching ardex products for almost ten years because someone told me that they sucked. Come to find out, they are awesome.
Your message at the end, is speaking directly to me today. I really needed to hear that more than you know. I'm a DIY'er and I enjoy it more than punching this @#$%^&! clock and dealing with the BS. Trade school now, will be a pain for me for the money reason, but I got to do something cause I'm a point where I can't stand this anymore. Thank you!
Be aware you will be trading one BS for other BS's. Trades are nice and fun until you get an injury or sick and your joints start wearing out. It's nice doing work you love, but I think most people lose site of what's really important, and that's making a life *outside* of work.
Yea they do, quite frankly the 1/2” foam on top of the curb was just fine, it offers a ton of support for the tile when installed, sure it’s soft when you force 2 fingers on it but once you spread the weight over the surface it holds a lot of weight
For those of us with tubs, would you mind sharing tips on how to best waterproof around that? Especially when you have a simple drop-in, without a flange...
I cheated when I did my shower....plywood, then concrete board then membrane then mortar and tile and the biggest cheat....bootz shower pan. First tile project ever
I have plywood walls and thinking of applying schluter all set on the drywall and applying all set to the back of kerdi board, and then leveling the kerdi board on the wall. The walls are thin -- no studs -- so can't use screws. You mentioned kerdi can't be applied on wood. My first attempt and have spent a lot of time learning, and have spent a good sum of money. Taking down the plywood would hurt my money situation. Have only have the plywood installed.
Casey B We’ve been doing it with hardie and liquid membranes for many many years and we’ve had never had any issues. Only issue we’ve ever had was when the trim guy used 1.5 inch penny nails to tack on his molding and ripped a hole in a pipe on the opposite wall of the shower. It leaked, but other than that no issues. I just can’t seem to comprehend why people like using paper thin materials to install in showers. With hardie or any other cement board you have a solid surface to tile and with the membrane you have an impervious shower. With the amount of money you waste on kerdi you can just redo your shower every 10 years to fit the modern tile trends. Just my 2 cents
Hardie turns into mushy old cardboard if it gets wet and it can wick up water....The only thing saving your installation is the liquid membrane over Hardie. I prefer cement board with hydroban, goboard or wedi board.
@@justinofboulder I've seen plenty of tilers who install Hardie without taping and mudding seams, or any waterproofing behind or on top of. Its easy to install, and really easy to install like shit! Its bound to fail eventually.
Love the videos. Though I need to google the building terms as I watch! Curdy board? Kurdy board? Ah, Kerdi boardI! ’m an Irishman living in France so I don’t know if I’m coming or going! Keep up the good work.
Issac Ostrom - Great Video.. Love all of your stuff and Sal's as well.. Where is the second video to this one showing the rest of the work to get this shower back together.. I didn't see it on your channel.. Can you provide the link? Thanks a bunch
@@boryanapetrova1341, the modified cement based grouts from TEC, Mapei, Laticrete should not be thought of as waterproof. Secondly, none of the caulk joints should be thought of as waterproof. Caulk and grout joints in corners crack.
Because it looks pretty and it's in all the designer magazines. I keep a bunch of pictures on my phone of what marble showers look like after 5 or 10 years, and usually it's enough to dissuade people.
@@SigmaDG I used 24x48 rectified tiles in my bathroom, all had to be cut down to 30-36" wide to fit the layout. I love the lack of grout joints, its about 1 square INCH of grout over 100 sq ft of tile! Oh, and it was a DIY job after firing the incompetent "experienced" tiler I had hired.
I don't think there's enough content on UA-cam for DIY shower install with no experience building a shower. I spent years perfecting my craft as a tile setter. Tile work is a art. Throw in the fact that a shower has to be appealing to the homeowner, but also water tight.
@fartpoobox ohyeah well said. I learned a lot of what not to do by watching the so-called "pros", and kerdi board is one of them I avoid. As you said, the standing water can only go as high as the curb. Anyone who concedes to water inevitably getting behind their tiles and/or pan shouldn't be tackling the project to begin with.
@fartpoobox ohyeah Kerdi isn't just 'waterproofing' it's also a vapor barrier. Just because you have done it for 30 years doesn't mean you've done it right for 30 years. And judging by your statements above, sounds like you've done it wrong for 30 years. Standing water is not the only thing that needs waterproofing. Water vapor is just as damaging. Kerdi and other waterproofing behind tile has other benefits to maintenance.
I tiled a floor with marble hexagon mosaic tile and i have some scratches and knics can i polish them out with a variable 4 inch angle grinder and a set of dri pads?
What i would've done was checked for level on the walls and then put thin set on them to level everything out then let dry leveling clips are nice but in order to get them off i simply remove the wedge and use a paint stick to knock them off it makes it so much easier to take off and it doesn't brake or scratch the tile
It's actually a really much better format, in my opinion, to show why something is wrong instead of saying "this is how you do it". You really never foresee the problem areas with DIY videos. Thanks for doing it this way and shout out to the owner for being man enough to admit he was in over his head.
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100%. This is how i think most of us learn, especially me. I question everything, so understanding WHY is always paramount for me. When someone says "do it like this because I do" doesn't tell me why it is done that way and for what reason.
Mad respect to the home owner for being willing to be on camera. Not easy position for anyone to be in
You are very diplomatic in your analysis of what went wrong without insulting or demeaning the homeowner. Kudos to you. A very professional approach.
First thing I thought, especially when he asked the home owner to elaborate on what went wrong instead of saying it himself.
You are truly a good man! I've been in the trades for 50years and you have humility and patience. One very important traits for any trades man. He's very kind with this man.
Thumbs up for the customer letting you share this, that's awesome
I thought the same thing, great sport. I would be humiliated 😩
I'm just discovering your channel. I've done around 7 kitchen & bathroom tear-outs & renovations. I gotta tell you that you're always calm, professional and humble with your approach. It would've been easy for a contractor to make this homeowner feel like an idiot but you presented yourself as a caring professional who just wants to help. I really enjoy your videos, keep them up man. Great Job!!
If you ever get a contractor who makes you feel like that, you need to hire a different one.
Tbh if anyone did that to me i'd fire them on the spot
Yeah! Imagine if doctor yell and cursing you for drinking alcohol and eat fastfood. This how some contractor insult their hirer. People make mistake. This is the 1st bathroom. Contractor probably went throught dozen mistake before make it right. Tiling is hard work and it probably took you some trial and error - learning tips before get to do it correctly.
In management, we always called that a “compliment sandwich”; start with positive, constructive criticism in the middle, and positive on the tail end. People are much more receptive this way. Good job with professionalism with that client. 👍🏻
Positive sandwich 🥪 yesss
I am a contractor and for clients who want to try diy I always say go ahead and point them in the right directions. Worst case scenario they hire me to fix their work and they had a chance to learn
I admire your attitude. Some on here admit to price gouging home owners who try and fail.
Can't screw up unless you try. Kudos to the homeowner for trying. I remember my first tile floor when I became an overnight contractor way before youtube; I laid down the tile over laminated plywood, and it looked great. The next day I came back, and all the plywood buckled and popped the tile. The homeowner was very understanding, and my friend, an actual tile guy, saved the day. Sal and yourself have great channels; I have watched you and Sal evolve over the years.
*I give this homeowner alot of credit for tackling that job!*
He tackled it not....
And was brave enough to stop when it was going wrong and publicly admit it.
He did a fairly good job; just probably didn’t have enough time nor knowledge. Everyone was once a beginner!!
He was drowning
@@dghcnu07 you are out of your mind. He didn't do anything even remotely good. He did something that he didn't know how to do instead of finding out the proper way to do it BEFORE he started. Homeowners are the worst when they "try" to save money.
Big shout out brother, you've got me through so many jobs with excellent results...self taught and refined by you. Appreciate all the time and energy spent over the past few years. Thank god for UA-cam University...best money i've every not spent!
Thanks for the mention Isaac, it is never as easy as it looks, best to start with a small project before jumping into something like a large shower stall. Critical to understand the limitations of the tools and products we use.
you are a boss
Sal! You're the man! So much good knowledge. Thanks for doing what you do.
Yup good videos sal
True words there Sal. Experience gained in those smaller projects will pay dividends in a large project after you have learned how the tools and materials work together.
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This video saved my life bro! Keep at it my friend. Maybe you should monetize answering DIY questions.
Shout and respect to the home owner for sharing his experience with us!
I am not even looking into bathroom remodeling right now but I like your communication and humility so much that I gotta watch a few videos hoping I will learn a bit!
Oh the amount of things I’ve had to demo for homeowners that tried doing this type of stuff. Cheers for him trying with the schluter systems and even floating.
I've watched two videos from this guy. He seems highly knowledgeable and compassionate. I like the way he exemplified the good aspects of this particular home owner's attempt, yet didn't shy away to point the faults. I'm going to subscribe to the channel.
Isaac is a true professional. He has done several jobs for me. Excellent tile contractor, awesome crew and easy to work with.
I am a DIYer and have done several big project to before, so this was not my first rodeo. I did my own oversize shower. It turned out great, but I will admit that it was more work and time than I originally planned on.
Yea I'm debating if I should do tile or pre fabricated shower
Thanks for your videos, in November 2018 we noticed a fault with our toilet and shower area. By the time the insurance and my plumber went back and forth it was another 3 month before I got a no from the company. At the same time our city got hit with a major flood and hundreds of homes were inundated. (Good luck getting a tradesman after that) Away just about finished the bathroom/toilet renovation thanks to yourself and other skilled youtubers. It's not perfect but it will do. Sure beats the porta potty and shower that we have been forced to use for the last 8 months.
I love all these videos and am currently building my first shower from scratch with Schluter. As a novice I have watched, 2, 3, 4 times over videos to make sure I am doing each step correctly and in order. A little patience and attention to detail goes a long way. That gap on the kerdi band on the wall is hurting my eyes! Thank you for making these videos!
For the follow up video on the repair: ua-cam.com/video/y1V7Dzj0Y4k/v-deo.html
You saved me a lot of headaches. I have people ask me how do you have so much experience and I tell them because I did it wrong to learn to do it right! Lol.
Great content!
The quantity of contractors out there that are also educators is too damn small. Thanks for this video!
I would agree with your stance on getting into the trades. Im a former engineer, quit 2 years ago doing contacting and portable sawmill work... much more rewarding. We have a few videos here and there, which certainly adds to the fun as I'm sure you know
Same! Mechanical engineering degree and 4 years in to the real world I had to adjust. Renovating kitchens and bathrooms is so much more rewarding! The engineering education helps tremendously too
I must say this channel is winner I love it here keep it up
Right on! Gotta give Sal his props!
Dulrock and hydroban together great. Im a tile installer and use this method alot works good never leaks or any problems
Making your walls plumb starts with plumbing your studs so that your drywall/backboards are also plumb. Bathroom renovations aren't easy. Probably the hardest room in the house to renovate.
all my family love your work God bless you
You guys do a great job editing. Thank you
I like how chill this bloke is and the way he explains things is so easy to understand.
I have to say that is one ambitious first tile project.
🙈🙈🙈🙈 I’m planning on starting my own project which is bigger than his. Let’s see how much of a dogs breakfast I make of it 😬
UA-cam is the liquid courage of home improvement :)
Your teaching is great and positive -
I do everything myself. If someone else can do it then so can I. Saves a ton of money.
Love the way your so humble and patient with all people
Great video brother may you have continued succes always bro
Isaac, are you going to record the whole process of fixing this shower and the end result? As for the owner, good for him on trying and knowing when to call an expert.
I was also impressed with the owner
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Thanks Isaac! Have been watching you and Sal for a bit now. About to start marble tile on my show now, been learning everything through UA-cam. You guys are UA-cam Tiling masters, thank you for you time and knowledge!
good luck
I'd like to see a video of how you floated over the kerdi
It's all in the prep.
I'm kinda in the same issue, almost 2 years working on a custom shower can't find a professional to come out and it's just a huge project. And I'm very worried it's not gonna be leveled right so these bids definitely help
It's need years and I still come back to these videos.
Good thing he was smart enough to ask for help
I think the kerdi was giving so much bc you were applying a lot of pressure in a 1/2” area. I’ve used that board a few times and once tile sets it’s pretty solid (if done correct) As far as any walkway you gotta use concrete board
I've had too many call backs on kerdi that others have installed in commercial buildings. Not very good stuff. Old school wall mud and floor mud or I don't do it but that's just me.
@@philllindauer5006 You probably fix more showers made the old school way. But Kerdi does require an educated installer and most are not. When done right, the system is great and backed by the manufacture.
At least the owner was honest about it instead of blaming
" Bad contractor job"
lolol
Just wanted to echo the comments on your kind manner with the homeowner who found himself in over his head. Showers, niches, those are deep water projects.
Can't stress this particular video enough.
I've built out an entirely gutted bathroom, down to the studs and floor/ceiling ripped out to basement and attic in a rancher. Reinstalled everything including window lintel, copper, electric. Lime plaster for top half of walls, ceiling, all good. Used Schluter-Kerdi membrane over cement board and custom mud pan. Tested no leaks, all good.
I get to the final days... now going on a month fighting the uneven wall, wet shimming and doing the finish work by hand, sometimes tile at a time, all because the walls are slightly off plumb, not floated, and every single half cut is custom losing at least half a tile to waste. It's the simple things...
Not bad for my first tile effort however... just super slow, constant fight.
Always start with the positive! I am really enjoying taking on tiling as another trade to help my custumers(fans). I've been doing interiors for 10 years but always subbed it out. I've learned ALOT about prepping and now really enjoy tile as I'm very OCD and flat walls and floor means you can be, who would know?
Thanks for the videos!
The soft curb is normal for kerdi. It has not been any issue whatsoever. I had same concern though. He could have left that alone.
very good tell us why we can faill... nice. thank you.
This is a great example of what has to be dealt with in an average project. Kerdi on the curb, good catch, need cement board and wrap.
So I really hoped to see some "how to" on floating that wall. Great job but this and the follow-up don't show how to float a wall. I hope you have one on that I can find. You do a great job explaining and showing things in your videos, keep it up!
9:40 Even you can push Kerdi with your fingers it doesn't mean it's weak because point pressure can be huge but when there is tile over it pressure will distribute much larger area.
Example EPS under concrete slab you can make huge dents to it by finger but still it bear car above.
Don't you have quick set concrete that you can pour curb no need to mess with wood and some boards.
The 2×4 acts as a straight edge to follow. Doing a concrete curb would still require 2×4s as a form. In fact it would require more of them and then you would throw them away. It's much better to use the wood. A single 2×4 on edge is the best
great video. cant wait to see the rest
Kerdi board is meant to go on studs without drywall. I am certified by Schluter for shower installs. However, that isn't how they talk about how to do curbs. I don't know if this guy has taken a schluter course, but with that specific point he is wrong
Are you saying the curb was fine and could have been tiled on just fine? Also what courses ?
I rip out showers all the time. None of these builders make their shit right it all comes out like cake. He’s right though
Best curb on the market: KBRS Hard Curb. Don’t understand how other brands can get away with simply selling a block of foam as a curb for so much especially since you can’t drill into it and expect a solid grab.
I used the Kbrs curd and totally agree.
Architect here, learning a lot!
I gutted my master bath to the metal studs and concrete slab (like we have in far South Fl) and rebuilt it. Tile shower and all. 'Floating' Inovis bench, arched niche. Direct drain. Troweled on water proofing over .5" duroc, niche, bench shampoo shelf. And not the red, paint on stuff! I lived there for 4 more years and I know it was done correctly. By me. With a lot of online reading. So 124 lb lady can do lots of things, if they want to. The only outside physical help I had was installing shower rated fan/light. And I was the one who rearranged the duct to outside in ceiling when he said it could not be done.
And there was much more to bath redo than shower.
It was the selling point of a all around beautiful condo. And needed no Realtor.
Building trades can be a fulfilling career. I wish I would have had internet and you tube when I was young and considered the trades instead of going into corporate America which was a paycheck to paycheck trap for me.
First time viewer, Bro i love your vibe. Its very apparent you know your trade, and yet, you, don't subscribe to the pompous, knucklehead attitude that you meet in the home improvement(out of control) industry.80% of contractors i meet belittle their clients or employees on a regular basis without reservation. in my opinion, for a young dude ,you got it figured out. its about integrity , respect and a work ethic. keep doing what you do. a flipper in Cali
side note: kerdi "blows" over priced. rather build without it
You might discuss the option of pulling the Kerdi board off the walls and sistering studs onto the existing ones to get a straight wall. Metal studs tend to run pretty straight or just run some boards thru a table saw.
Ok so I'm a Warehouse Worker, But an automotive technician by trade. I wasn't happy with the trade so much because cars are a hobby and I can already see I would get tired of doing the same basic repairs all day every day. I am a musician and I always have too many hobbies. But I love to be creative, the tile trade looks fun to me! I used to co-own a pool service business when I was younger, I am 31 years old. And whenever we got to re-tile the top edge of a pool, it was always good fun for me! Im interested in doing something different with my life.
It's very tough to continue a wall/ floor that has with leveling clips that have dried over night. The next row of tiles helps level out the previous row. This becomes difficult if the previous row is dry.
Issac. Who stocks denssheild in roseville/ rocklin? I tried to find some for a previous job and couldn't find anyone with it in stock. I have a curb on a current job that I was going to cap with kerdi. I think I want something firmer.
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Thanks for the heads up. So, what's really going on with you and schluter? The reason I ask is because a month or 2 ago you posted a video on the best way to build a shower. That shower had kerdi board/panel on edge for the shower curb. This shower has basically the same thing yet you say it's no good. I say basically because they both had kerdi board and were both approved by schluter. I am sure if you pressed on the curb of the previous shower it would flex just like this one.
Not trying to call you out or nothing. I am on your team. I am thoroughly not impressed with kerdi after seeing the water test that you have done. I am going to make shower pan mockup. One side will be made with schluter thinset and the other with versabond.
I mention all this because I am a perfectionist. I am always looking for a better way, as I believe you are. It drives me nuts when someone says that this is the best way and then sometime later they say it's wrong.
Reminds me of not touching ardex products for almost ten years because someone told me that they sucked. Come to find out, they are awesome.
I'm using green board with wet shimming with heavy duty construction adhesive.
Some things are better left in the hands of a professional, but trial through error is how we all learn , great teaching and very instructive, THANKS.
Props at the end about getting into the building trade if job is boring
like this channel a lot. Great job sir
I just make sure the studs are plumb and flat before kerdi. This the kerdi is plumb and flat. Easy peasy. Simple and done.
Great videos. Sure appreciate the time and effort to show best practice!
Use protection plates for clips on marble. But yes those joints have to be clean for easy removal. Nice video. ( A Sharper Finish )
Your message at the end, is speaking directly to me today. I really needed to hear that more than you know. I'm a DIY'er and I enjoy it more than punching this @#$%^&! clock and dealing with the BS. Trade school now, will be a pain for me for the money reason, but I got to do something cause I'm a point where I can't stand this anymore. Thank you!
Be aware you will be trading one BS for other BS's. Trades are nice and fun until you get an injury or sick and your joints start wearing out. It's nice doing work you love, but I think most people lose site of what's really important, and that's making a life *outside* of work.
But Kerdi recommends building custom curbs with 2 inch kerdi board strips
Yea they do, quite frankly the 1/2” foam on top of the curb was just fine, it offers a ton of support for the tile when installed, sure it’s soft when you force 2 fingers on it but once you spread the weight over the surface it holds a lot of weight
Finally I find at least one better then me installer in the shower and it’s you
For those of us with tubs, would you mind sharing tips on how to best waterproof around that? Especially when you have a simple drop-in, without a flange...
I cheated when I did my shower....plywood, then concrete board then membrane then mortar and tile and the biggest cheat....bootz shower pan. First tile project ever
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I have plywood walls and thinking of applying schluter all set on the drywall and applying all set to the back of kerdi board, and then leveling the kerdi board on the wall. The walls are thin -- no studs -- so can't use screws. You mentioned kerdi can't be applied on wood. My first attempt and have spent a lot of time learning, and have spent a good sum of money. Taking down the plywood would hurt my money situation. Have only have the plywood installed.
I would maybe recommend using Laticrete Hydro Ban directly to the plywood instead? Might be a better way to go.
What's your opinion on hardie with redgard or hydroban for showers? This seems to be the standard here in maui, never used kirdi
Casey B We’ve been doing it with hardie and liquid membranes for many many years and we’ve had never had any issues. Only issue we’ve ever had was when the trim guy used 1.5 inch penny nails to tack on his molding and ripped a hole in a pipe on the opposite wall of the shower. It leaked, but other than that no issues. I just can’t seem to comprehend why people like using paper thin materials to install in showers. With hardie or any other cement board you have a solid surface to tile and with the membrane you have an impervious shower. With the amount of money you waste on kerdi you can just redo your shower every 10 years to fit the modern tile trends. Just my 2 cents
I won't touch Hardie! Have seen too many failures....Isaac has as well. Redguard over concrete board holds up well!
Hardie turns into mushy old cardboard if it gets wet and it can wick up water....The only thing saving your installation is the liquid membrane over Hardie. I prefer cement board with hydroban, goboard or wedi board.
@@justinofboulder I've seen plenty of tilers who install Hardie without taping and mudding seams, or any waterproofing behind or on top of. Its easy to install, and really easy to install like shit! Its bound to fail eventually.
I got licensed and started doing all Schluter showers 2 years. Once you get the hang of it everything goes smooth. Easy six figure income.
one more person who is full of them self
Tim Eason yep
What if theres was kerdi that was in adecuate like this, could you do a couple heavy coats of redgaurd and be good to go?
That’s a Kerdi premade curb... what are you doing essay !!
no its not
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What do u think about using tule redi shower pan I think it's easy to install
Love the videos. Though I need to google the building terms as I watch! Curdy board? Kurdy board? Ah, Kerdi boardI! ’m an Irishman living in France so I don’t know if I’m coming or going! Keep up the good work.
After 40 years in the trade , try as you may , nothing beats a good cement floated shower.
That's my thought🤔
Issac Ostrom - Great Video.. Love all of your stuff and Sal's as well.. Where is the second video to this one showing the rest of the work to get this shower back together.. I didn't see it on your channel.. Can you provide the link? Thanks a bunch
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Can you float to fix a bow in a wall over kerdi membrane with the shulter alset
So are the pre-made kurdi curbs not good to use?
This is why I stick with durock cement board.
Never fails? Our company has fixed many durarock showers that had leaking and rot issues.
@@FlatOutFE That's b/c the idiots didn't waterproof and grout correctly.
@@TheGuruStud , grout has absolutely nothing to do with it. Grout isn't waterproof. If you waterproof correctly you don't need Durock.
@@FlatOutFE Grout is not waterproofed only in US. I have never in my life saw grout that absorbs water.
@@boryanapetrova1341, the modified cement based grouts from TEC, Mapei, Laticrete should not be thought of as waterproof. Secondly, none of the caulk joints should be thought of as waterproof. Caulk and grout joints in corners crack.
Hello! Thanks for checking out one of my videos! * *Steve breathes* *
I just don't understand why people like to use soft stone in wet areas, when there are so many more durable options
Yep. Porcelain for mine. Large format at that.
Because it looks pretty and it's in all the designer magazines. I keep a bunch of pictures on my phone of what marble showers look like after 5 or 10 years, and usually it's enough to dissuade people.
With laser printing u can get good porcelain that gives the look of stone
@@SigmaDG I used 24x48 rectified tiles in my bathroom, all had to be cut down to 30-36" wide to fit the layout. I love the lack of grout joints, its about 1 square INCH of grout over 100 sq ft of tile!
Oh, and it was a DIY job after firing the incompetent "experienced" tiler I had hired.
What is the best tile leveler for a 4” 8” shower wall tile with a 1/8th grout line
I don't think there's enough content on UA-cam for DIY shower install with no experience building a shower. I spent years perfecting my craft as a tile setter. Tile work is a art. Throw in the fact that a shower has to be appealing to the homeowner, but also water tight.
I like to make my curbs from mud and go straight over it with Kerdi membrane
Save the hassle and just use a polystyrene curb from Shluter. You can even get them pre-wrapped with kerdi. So easy.
What did you use to float the wall with? I have similar situation where kerdi was installed and walls are not perfect
I been doing a ton of showers and bathroom never used that product before
Cement liner cement waterproof
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@fartpoobox ohyeah well said. I learned a lot of what not to do by watching the so-called "pros", and kerdi board is one of them I avoid. As you said, the standing water can only go as high as the curb. Anyone who concedes to water inevitably getting behind their tiles and/or pan shouldn't be tackling the project to begin with.
@fartpoobox ohyeah Kerdi isn't just 'waterproofing' it's also a vapor barrier. Just because you have done it for 30 years doesn't mean you've done it right for 30 years. And judging by your statements above, sounds like you've done it wrong for 30 years. Standing water is not the only thing that needs waterproofing. Water vapor is just as damaging. Kerdi and other waterproofing behind tile has other benefits to maintenance.
I tiled a floor with marble hexagon mosaic tile and i have some scratches and knics can i polish them out with a variable 4 inch angle grinder and a set of dri pads?
What i would've done was checked for level on the walls and then put thin set on them to level everything out then let dry leveling clips are nice but in order to get them off i simply remove the wedge and use a paint stick to knock them off it makes it so much easier to take off and it doesn't brake or scratch the tile