Thompson 1921: The Original Chicago Typewriter
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The first prototype Thompsons submachine guns (and it was Thompson who coined that term, by the way) were produced in 1919 and dubbed the "Annihilators". The gun was intended to be a military weapon to equip American soldiers in World War One, but by the time the gun was developed the war had ended. Still, Thompson and his Auto-Ordnance company contracted with Colt to manufacture 15,000 of the guns. These were the Model of 1921, and they were marketed to both the US military and as many European armies as Thompson and his salesmen could reach. They found few takers in the climate of the early 1920s, however, and sales were slow.
This is the first in a 5-part series about the development of the Thompson, concluding with a trip to the range to fire three different patterns side by side...
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"You can get a new car, or you can get two Thompson submachine guns."
So...... Nothing's changed in almost a century?
Well you can always get a hi point hahahahaha
Or you can stamp out sten guns for everyone.
When I first read your comment, I thought you meant Kahr. LOL
-You get the two Thompsons
-Used them to threaten them to get the new car
-Now you have both.
@@EJAXK13 everything is in balance
"welcome back to forgotten weapons"
"This is one of the most iconic sub machine guns"
This made me laugh way too much
But the various models are the part that it's forgotten
@@lasarousi The name of this channel has very little bearing on the firearms they display. They widely admit this.
AKA just because a gun is very commonly known doesn't mean they won't exhibit it.
It's just a name.
GetmeoutofSanFrancisco I wonder if Ian started with the more out-there guns, people realized how good the channel was, and then he expanded into basically anything. I am not complaining!
@@royroblox if you look back on the channel that's pretty much what happened. But Ian has said himself a few times that if it exists he'd like to eventually do a presentation on it. Old. New. Obscure and iconic.
check the subtitles....
9:25 full auto (RATATATATATATA mode)
11:05 drum magazine (oh yeah baby)
3:48 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐧𝐧𝐢𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐨𝐫 🔥🔥🔥
came to the comments to see if someone else saw the subtitles, every video needs subtitles like the ones on this video
19:20 (cute gibberish)
I am so proud of this community.
I love these subtitles
"A Tommy isn't much more accurate than a pitched baseball, and hasn't much greater effective range. But it does have virtues -- you hit a man with it, he goes down and stays down." -- Robert A. Heinlein
Yeah, Bob had a great appreciation for things that did what they were meant to do.
@@justforever96 A myth.
@@justforever96 also that has nothing to do with the thompson, the tommy is .45 acp and the m1 carbine is .30 carbine
@@justforever96 Utter myth. Clothes are not going to stop a .45 ACP wtf
@@justforever96 "failing to penetrate thick clothing", also known to the wider world as missing.
I believe ya.... but my Tommy Gun don’t!
Merry Christmas, ya filthy animal
I actually got that reference!
@@odlezynowyurynator3144 yeah it's not from ghostmane. Sad you dont know the actual band/song. Sad indeed.
And a happy new year.
This a reference to brand new?
Two Thompson machine guns can be used to acquire many Toyota corollas 🤔
I'd rather have Thompsons than a Corolla anyway.
The numbers
If I was gonna rob someone with a pair of Tommy guns, I wouldn't choose a Toyota dealership.
Explain how!!
Also the Thompson doesn’t have the off chance that some high schooler had gotten a handjob in the backseat.
Fun fact; when disassembled, you could fit the pieces of a Thompson into a violin case.
Makes me think of Fred "Killer" Burke. Dude was a maestro when he broke out his Chicago Typewriter. I do believe he was responsible for the first murder-by Thompson in Detroit when working with the notorious Purple Gang. But he traveled around with his Thompson fully-assembled inside a trombone case.
works better in a viola case...
That's why sometimes hitmen were referred to as "violinists" from Chicago...
Carry a Thompson and you automatically gain a Brooklyn accent
An AK47 also fits a guitar case. It’s just things fitting inside other things. But also, the drum is too large so you would need a viola case
Only a gun guy would refer to the end of World War 1 as being a "problem" 😂
Why would a gun guy say that? An economist would say that cause wwI drove manufaturing jobs n shit n our government inflated the economy in wwii so war ending could seem bad to a lot of people
Remember boyo, war is a racket!
@@Milk-jy1kn nah war is just the way the world works resources wont conquer themselves you know its both population control and a way to boost money everywhere not that its good for those involved see
@@briancarlson6216 .....so it's a racket then? good? good.
No banks too.
That's amazing how they designed this gun based on a completely incorrect principle but somehow they got lucky and it still worked. Damn...
@Concerned1 that's only if you model a bee like an airplane, with wings that don't move. bees don't violate the laws of physics...
@Concerned1 Nothing that flies violates the laws of aerodynamics.
@@1959Edsel yeah, you missed the joke. Ever seen the bee movie?
American Engineering in a nutshell
Zach Hart And Islam is a religion of peace 👌🏻
I served in Vietnam from 1969 to 1970 as a door gunner on a Huey gunship (before the Cobra days). One day a Thompson showed up and it became mine. I don’t remember the details. My official weapons were the M60, and the toy rifle the M16. The Thompson quickly became my favorite. I didn’t use it as an aerial weapon, but it sure was fun and was perfect as a second weapon. The TSM was so simple it took about 10 minutes to field strip and clean for the first time. Eventually, my unit cracked down on personal weapons so I had to give it up.
Steven
Were ever you able to get it back? Also, thank you for your service!
smoker...
😂
@@heavyrain5949 No, I am afraid not. I thought about the weapon for home protection, but after I dealt with the intruder, I would have to spend days doing drywall work. I don't know which would have been worse putting up new drywall or an intruder.
@@heavyrain5949 Oh btw thankyou.
Very awesome!
The perfect gift for that special someone on Valentine's Day
Yeah, don't piss off Al Capone.
♪You've been hit by a *Smooth Criminal* ♫
@@travisbishop782 or be Irish
@@travisbishop782 they nearly killed Al with a drive-by parade of Thompson's...guess he just wanted to get even...
Too soon
I once saw an ad for Lucky Strike cigarettes where someone, using a Thompson, ‘wrote’ Lucky Strike in a piece of steel with bullet holes.
It was Bad Ass, I tell you.
I told you.
Now you know.
Carry on.
yeah, you can actually do that...as the FBI demos prove...with a 50 rd drum that gun just won't move....
I guess there were some unusual instances. where people that used the weapon a lot. could sign their signature in bullet holes providing their signature wasn't too complicated.
I'm a mechanical engineer, and I can't imagine how difficult these types of guns must have been to design before the the days of computer aided design
drafting, rulers, protractors, all those gadgets computers do the work of now; part of the reason CAD is used now is the need for microscopic precision, which wasn't needed then
lots of trial and error
Whole lot of paper
You should familiarize yourself with the CURTA calculator.
@Kyler Rogers Or you could do what they used to do for that same objective and use a punt gun.
*insert heavily accented Italian American mob dialogue and that weird hand thing*
*Oh and Irish Revolutionary slang too, as I found out that they used Tommies too*
GABBBAGOOO
Yayo' Ariowibowo I’ll have you know, that’s just how we talk
Dio dog i need cover!
That's why you can't talk to an Italian bus driver. We can't control it
All hail the blessed gun JESUS capish ya smucks
I had one of these in my shop never fired in stock for nearly six years before it ever sold. I had never seen anything from this era in such perfect conduction. A guy from Idaho purchased it for $58k several years ago.
Damn that's a ton of money for a gun but if I had it I'd pay it for a Thompson!
@@kirkkirkland7244 Shit you and both brother. I bought a reproduction 1927A1 Thompson a little over a month ago off GunBroker. Cost $1500 after shipping, taxes and transfer fees. They have an original ‘21 Thompson up for $60k right now. Wonder how long that will take to sell.
I love Idaho. My kind of people.
I just read a comment before this about how Ian’s joke about you being able to either buy a new car or two Thompsons in the time period it hit the market and someone replied and said that’s true but reversed and holy shit this guy paid the equivalent of two 20,000 cars and another 18k for it it’s true lol
"Blish Lock" *sounds* like some kind of eastern european dish.
"... Yes, and some of that tasty Blischlok please!" 😁
D00Mguy 1987, I'm pretty sure that's a Klingon delicacy.
Heck, I'd try it
Many have found themselves having an allergic reaction to the Thompson, often breaking out in little holes.
😂😄
Actually big holes!!!
First came the Thompson Submachine Gun, then came Swiss cheese.
The term was called Air Conditioned.
* someone walks in while Ian's shooting the video*
"Ey, I'm filming here!"
Ian: "I'm gonna give you to the count a three, to get your ugly, rotten, no-good keister off my property...before I pump your guts full a led."
Don't move a muscle or I'll drill ya.
@@justryan5697 1, 2, 10 * starts blasting*
Ratatatata
*"Stranger, stranger! Now THAT's a weapon!"*
OG gamer detected
Resident evil 4 😄😄😄😄
Hmmmm well played bro i love this game
the merchant from Resident evil 4
@@joaquinbatungbacal481 hhh yes sir classic player right here
In the fifties, in Sacramento, my elementary school class went over to the CHP academy for a tour and they impressed the hell out of a bunch of fourth graders by taking us to the range and emptying a drum magazine. I don't think it traumatized anyone, the fifties were a different time.
That's sounds like the coolest field trip ever
Ok, so someone designed and manufactured this weapon....
More than 100 years ago.
Nothing but respect.
people in 1920 weren't stupid, big industries and precision instruments had existed for a long time
I worked with a chap that was a tank driver during the war,he told me the story that early in the war they were issued with the Thompson smg. Apparently they were particularly fine examples of the gun being in excellent condition.Having the drum magazine,beautiful bluing and with the Chicago Police Department stamped on.Some of the really interesting stories he use to tell me as a lad were fascinating,how the hell he survived the war is beyond me.Eddy was a driver in 12th Royal Tank Reg't and served in North Africa,Sicily,Italy, in fact his unit was so decimated they disbanded the Reg't.He was a great guy and sadly missed...
Great story thank you for sharing
F
check out "Sahara"...the one with Humphrey Bogart....
"You can get a new car, or you can get two Thompson submachine guns"
Why is this a hard choice, again?
Guess I'll be walking to work.
@@CarrotCaptain you can "call" a taxi
It might have been crazy expensive, but it's definitely one of the most stylish guns ever. Also the finish on this looks really impressive, especially compared to the later military versions you show in other videos.
too bad they dont handle so great when trying to actually hit a target, and 45 is heavy so range can be limited. I wonder if there's a way to keep those nice looks, but add more functionality. maybe those cool gunsmiths can whip us up some period correct styled mods.
@@iwanttobetankman4260 I have a 1927A-1C Deluxe Special 9mm reproduction, it was $1200 US dollars with a 200 round drum, the 20+lbs makes it handle like a dream. I can hold a steady target at around 50 yards, or half a football field at about a 1 foot spread.
I would rather have two Thompson sub machine guns than a Toyota Carola
Could certianly be worth more than a Carrola...
Will S , or a corolla even.
Lol
I own a Corolla I rather have the Thompson
"The Marine Corps was different in the 20s"
What, most of them could still read?
And the only had 22 colors of crayola compared to the hundreds of flavors they offer today.
@@Okabim flavors..?
It being the 20s, I suppose we still can read.
Wat ned reed for
@@Okabim please explain this to a non-marine.
I grew up in New Guinea during the 60's. One of my buddies found one of these laying in the bush, left behind from W.W. 2. Timber bits rotted away. Rest of the gun was reasonable condition considering. Dare say wouldn't attempt to use. Excellent informative video, thanks for sharing. 🖐 🇦🇺
@Bobby Sands not sure what model Thompson it was, but definetly a Thompson 100%. We found alot of items left behind. Where I lived, the Americans were stationed during the war. Found American helmets, water bottles , some had names or initials scratched on them, bayonets, live hand grenades, hundreds of 9mm, 30-06 ammunition, both live & empty shells. Some of the 30-06 live ammo were still in clips. I have a 1911 colt 45 pistol that I still have to this day. It has U.S. government property stamped on the side. I had 1 Browning 50 heavy m.g. & 3 Browning 30 m.g's. Left them behind when we shipped out back to Australia because my parents didn't want to paying shipping costs. Americans built a few air strips, still aircraft wrecks laying around left behind. My mates father had a yard full up with American jeeps, trailers, dodge weapons carriers, troop carriers, amublence etc...
@@F.Krueger-cs4vk Your tax dollars at work, 1940's Americans!
That’s incredible. Love hearing stories like these, super cool
@@worldcomicsreview354 It was actually cheaper to leave all that behind than to ship it back. The WW2 American Economy was insane, they pushed out aircraft carriers in weeks, destroyers in days, tanks in hours and guns in minutes.
I doubt anyone that cared even noticed they were gone.
@@worldcomicsreview354 apparently we're still doing it...check out current events....
Mr. Thompson died in 1940.
Pearl Harbor was 1941.
He never got to see his invention used by the US Military in war.
We used them in Haiti
If your in the business of killing,which you are if your in the military, side arm.give me a Thomson and a BAR
It's a1911 45
Colonel Thompson
Today I learned that Tommy guns were used in the Pearl Harbor attack.
Thompson SMG: For when you need to kill everyone in the restaurant. Or the limo you're driving beside. Or the bank. Or the parking garage.
Or a den full of gangsters, because cops used these too.
Or a vampire in a diner
or a bunch of illusions only you can see in a ballroom.
and sometimes all of those things in a row
Or when you want to saw a car completely in half...
The preferred weapon of headless Norwegian mercenaries.
jeffrey skoritowski , "Roland the Thompson Gunner!"
@@paulwilliams6753 I'm pretty sure thompson gunner was a slang for machine gunner, not literally using a Thompson.
@@CThyran "Roland aimed his Thompson gun, he didn't say a word" i think that line implies he did. it's a fictional story obviously but if you asked warren...
They did make over a Million Thompsons all together.
It's not a rare weapon to see turn up in any conflict, even to this day in some areas
What are you referencing?
The craftsmanship of this smg is amazing. just a joy to look at.
I especially like that heat fluting (if that's what it's called) near the foregrip.
I have a 1928 Thompson mg full auto it is wonderful to shoot and very accurate . The machining is beautiful
If you were to sell it how much would you ask for it?
My guess would probably be at least 30,000 bucks. They go up to 50,000
A brand new video on a great historical weapon, but I'm still giggling at yesterday's FG-42 video...
Yup, have you seen it firing? What a beast
I'm with you on the FG-42 video. I love the Thompson, but watching someone have that much fun is awesome.
so made me fantasise about owning an FG42 in UK, I was practically drooling
@@bremnersghost948 talk about that,in portugal you can only have a 38. revolver at most
@@Sir.suspicious damn, that's pretty beat!
A couple of years ago Saint Louis PD traded in something like 28 Thompson’s. They were able to purchase new pistols, and rifles for the entire Dept as a result of that deal. Which is great because that freed up a bunch of Thompson’s for collectors to enjoy. But the really interesting part is that according to an unnamed source the city has a bunch of the Harley Davidson motor cycles with the sidecars with the Thompson SMG mounts on them in storage at fleet services. Imagine getting to own a complete set up like that!
My brother in law retired from SLPD as did his dad. His dad worked in fleet services and ran the motor pool. I asked him about this and he said that it was 36 Thompson SMGs they had, but sold only 24 of them. They do have the Harley's and said they were 12 x 1942 WLA's with sidecars. The sidecars do have a mount for the Thompson.
Richard Littles
Thank you for confirming the rumor. You never know for sure how accurate a story is since it goes through numerous people. And all you have is a persons word. I’m no motorcycle aficionado so I have no idea what they are worth. But having the bike and one of those actual SMG’s would be an awesome collection!
Jack Benton I’m sure it was only done for financial gain. But who cares why they did it. There wasn’t anything done to the weapons to decommission them. They just have to be declared surplus property by the city council so they could trade them off. They don’t sell them to the dealer. That’s because any money would go back to the cities’ general fund. So the agency gets a quote for what the dealer will value them at. Then they figure out what they want to trade for. That was why they got all new duty pistols, and patrol rifles.
I’m just glad to see more fully transferable class 3 Weapons making their way into the market. We can thank President Regan for that when he enacted legislation that banned the manufacturer of fully transferable automatic weapons around 1986. Anything made after 1986 can only be sold to Military or Law Enforcement agencies.
Most of these weapons sat in armories or the Chiefs closet for years and only got shot once in a while. So mileage varies greatly. The sad thing is some weapons were never registered by the Dept that owned them after the NFA OF 1934 was passed. So those weapons can only be registered with the ATF on Form 5’s or 10’s. Not sure which. Then sold to other agencies, or cut up and sold as parts kits. I know of 2 agencies in this area that have weapons like that. They were never registered with the ATF. So the ATF doesn’t even know they exist. So if they grew legs and walked out and went under ground the possibility exists that no one would ever know it. Which may be why they are still not registered.
steve wilson you Americans get all the fun toys
@@googleandyoutubeareevil If you drove that down the street.
Can you imagine how you will be pulled over.
Probably the coolest gun ever made.
There’s just something so enduring and awesome about one.
They were both oiler and recoil pads actually according to a Thompson mashing gun service manual I found
This is the definition of the opposite of a forgotten weapon.
But have you ever heard Ian tell the story about it? :)
It is, but a lot like the RPG-7 Ian also did, everyone knows what it is, but how it actually works and what's inside it is much lesser known.
Remembered Weapons
Joshua Radick I agree with the previous comments but in all honesty he’s covered some newer weapons if he gets to shoot them (m134 minigun for example) and i enjoy that he tells the stories and shoots some of the most iconic guns on earth.
forgotten aspects of remembered weapons
40 yrs. ago I had the chance to buy one for 500$ but thought that was too much, boy was I daft
why, 500 is still too much for it even today
Hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it? I know plenty of people that had opportunities to buy full auto AR pattern rifles in the early 80s for only $1500. Now they all kick themselves, haha!
Around 1963 I could have had one (reweld) for $50. Instead I used my money to buy a 1956 Crown Victoria.
@@phileas007 That's cheaper than a lot of firearms on the market today. I'd love to have one of these honestly
+phileas007 You have serious issues. Seek professional help.
“Listen up, youse mugs! You ain’t gettin’ outta here alive, see? I’M takin’ over, and ain’t nobody gonna stop me, see?” 🌹
This channel, together with Jonathan Ferguson's explorations of firearms (from UK's Royal Armories), is superb.
Kudos for the simple, non-ego driven, matter-of-fact style.
Superb.
I just looked up the Thompson "Light Support Weapon" in .45 Remington-Thompson. It looks like a BAR banged a M1921 Thompson.
I got a chub out of it. I really would like to see it in Fallout or Bioshock.
@Tango Zulu They are talking about the light support weapon prototype version of Thompson...
back in the day you could buy the Thompson from the Montgomery Ward Catalogue through the freakin mail
And we should still be able to buy them off the shelf but that gun grabber Reagan infringed on 2A rights.
Auto-Ordnance also sold them thru ads in farm & ranch and sportsman magazines for shooting coyotes, wolves and foxes that pestered livestock with a drawing of a rancher on horseback blazing away at a pack of wolves in the distance.
That was back when we still had the Second Amendment.
@@shaneheavy67 You can still buy one and make it full auto by buying a replacement part that'll make it full-auto after being filed on. Just don't leave it in when done practicing firing in that fashion.
Blame Reagan? Really? I mean the guy was no fan of the 2nd amendment, he was from Hollywood, California of course but hmmm. I can definitely think of worse presidents in terms of 2A. I know he was pres in 86 but I think that was just the way the wind was blowing. You don’t think Clinton would have done the same and worse. I mean he did. Although Republican rarely stand up for 2A the way they should I’d take just about any Republican over any Democrat when it comes to firearms...
A car or two Thomson's.....
Take the guns
The captions explaining that a half a dozen means six, or putting fire emoji next to annihilator is great
There's something just so classy about the wood furniture and the shape of the foregrip.
Art deco.
yeah, i just love the aesthetic. can imagine a security guard carrying this with a funny moustache. or a guy with a cigar in his mouth and a funny cap and all black suit
Remember when colt made super high quality firearms? Pepperidge farms remembers
speaking of Pepperidge Farms, Goldfish were originally intended as an accompaniment for tomato soup, like grilled cheese sandwiches
Hi I worked there for years , there pathetic now
I. 'member
Ahh love that reference
@@CorvusCorone68 what in the fu-
Okay.
The person that did CC is going above and beyond, its actually great
The design of the 1921 Thompson SMG is a modern marvel even 100yrs after its design! Amazing technology and craftsmanship here!
The thompson really was the definition of high quality firearms. They are beautifully made
THE THOMPSON WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN
whoever did the captions for this deserves a medal.
Watching this during the 100 year anniversary. Thanks Ian for all you do for historical and gun enthusiasts.
So Cutts proposed to make cuts into the muzzle. I wonder where he got that idea from.
and as a result of Cutt's cuts he got a cut of the profits
@@CorvusCorone68 he received compensation for his compensator
watching this as my garbage truck was picking up my trash, and Ian says "I apologize for the garbage truck outside"....spooky shit
Watching the disassembly certainly solved the mystery of why this gun was so expensive.
I really love the caption on this video:
3:17 (cute gibberish)
3:48 *The Annihilator* 🔥🔥🔥
10:49 Casually mentioned in brackets that the minimum wage has barely gone up in 100 years
"I could have given Al Capone a few hints...I operated on three continents." 1933 Gen. Smedley Butler USMC
I discovered Forgotten Weapons three years ago, and I've been waiting for this day ever since.
Been waiting for over a year, myself. Good times man, good times. Though I don't look forward to the WWII era... modifications.
I try not to think about them too much.
@@falloutlover5443 WW II was the era of iconic submachine guns....
It's been my experience that SMGs are very dependent on the way their magazines are designed. I believe Thompson saw this and designed the T shaped follower to absolutely secure the magazine, as such a snug and sturdy fit would pretty much eliminate any failures to feed.
I don't think a snug fit eliminates ALL feeding failures.
@@justforever96 I have to correct you on this. The Thompson stick mags do have feed lips and these are a constant source of feeding problems. The drum mags don’t have feed lips and are much more reliable.
Whoever did the subtitles, I see you and I appreciate you
a progressive US army ordinance officer now that's a rare item.
A rich man in a car and a not-so-rich man on a Brownback mule were at a stop sign. Instead of proceeding, the rich man decided to rub in his status by showing his fancy wrist watch.
" I have a Rolex. With it, I can tell the time whenever I want. I have designer clothing. And a car that goes 0 to 60 in 5 seconds."
The mule rider reaches in his burlap bag. He pulls out his Thompson..."I have a Tommy gun. With one of these, I can have all of that whenever I want."
T
😂🤣
I love a good story.
Well said !!!!
But wait, that's illegal.
@@TheSpectralFX Illegal but with a 100+ likes
brazilian here, you are very good, perfect to undestand, thanks sir
Lol, I love that scene from Public Enemies:
Dillinger: "The Spring's too tight on this one. Jammed Twice."
Armorer: "I cut off one coil."
Dillinger: "And... It rides up and to the right."
Armorer: "I widen port."
Greeting from Australia, been on your website for the last decade and loving it, still cant believe this quality and im not being forced to pay for it
So feeling guilty? there is a site called patreon. But that's only if you want to stop being a freeloader
Lol I do, I said "forced" for a reason, good shows like motor trend after they become big make you move off youtube to some paid website
It is amazing and Ian and Karl moved to a primarily volunteer pay program. A very few very generous viewers pay for the privilege of the many to enjoy very valuable content. Both Ian and Karl have asked for contributions, but they both recognized that won’t always happen so humbly ask those who don’t to rate and review and ideally tell a friend which is more valuable because they are creators and want eyes more then the money. (They do want money though, obviously the more they get the better it is not just for them but also us.)
Another Aussie here, discovered the channel only recently but I bloody love it. And I'm not even a "gun" bloke, don't own one, only ever fired an air rifle.
I've even got a hippy ponytail that quietly whispers "hey, wouldn't it be pretty sweet if everyone put the guns down and stopped fucking shooting each other?".
But I love the way that Gun Jesus breaks down the engineering and operation of these devices in his straightforward and subtly amusing manner. Great educational stuff.
Seriously considering adding him to my "Patreon-backed" list of creators.
Yup, it’s not a gun channel it’s a history and machinery channel. Kinda like Star Trek isn’t a sci-fi show it’s a soap opera with slightly better storytelling. Obviously Ian does a better job then most soaps and for many of us is also better then Star Trek and the like.
Woah.... I've been racking my brains trying to find an excuse for Ian to visit Ireland, and there he goes and drops it in my lap!
Bejasus yewll love it i tells yelove the bejasus out of it
the captions here are top notch and give more info even. Superb really
for the end of 1910's the design is really fascinating. especially that it based on a Blush's principle which was all wrong, so in a way Thomson just accidentially got the right design
Now THAT is a beautiful piece of machinery. Never realized how well made these were till now.
love the finish on the steel…especially those knurled knobs…reeks quality throughout…a gun for the times…not like the plastic we have today….be proude to be killed with this gun..(sort of)
I'm in no way an "weapons buff", but I learn a lot of technology and history with your videos. excellent work and thanks!
In Elvis' 'In the Ghetto': "He buys a gun, and he steals a car..." One has to do it that way round, I suppose. 🤔
I was in the Navy...1965-1970 on the USS Vesole DD878 as a Gunnersmate and the Thompson was my assigned weapon. Absolutely loved that gun!!!
Thompson has the only wood vertical grip I've ever been able to take seriously.
Not a dong enjoyer?
@@Sosaparks I'm an ak guy and nope haha
@@user-oh6gz9er6h and the CZ owners
definately. unlike all the other ones, it actually has finger grooves
DONG GRIP
Yes used in the Irish war of independence. Like all Irish history, it is recorded in song.
Off to Dublin in the Green
(Dominic Behan)
I am a merry ploughboy and I ploughed the fields all day
'Till a sudden thought came to my mind that I should roam away
For I'm sick and tired of slavery since the day that I was born
And I'm off to join the I.R.A. and I'm off tomorrow morn.
Cho: And we're off to Dublin in the green, in the green
Where the helmets glisten in the sun
Where the bayonets flash and the rifles crash
To the echo of the Thompson Gun.
Ballad of Billy Reid mentions Billy falling with "his old thompson gun."
Warren Zevons "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" although about a Merc in the Congo Wars, makes quick mention in the last verse to the Irish using them.
The UVF or Ulster Volunteer Force used them against the IRA as Well.
Not used that much though, in the War of Independence, as they only arrived right at the end. Used more widely in the Civil War , sadly.
The Irish using American supplied arms against the British?! Colour me surprised.
In 1968 my neighbor was stationed at Miramar and he got my brother and friend on the base over Christmas vacation and I got to shoot a number of military issued weapons and 1 was a Thompson. I can still remember it like yesterday kicking like a mule. Wow what a thrill. Love your video 👍
The captions in this are wonderful btw
6:50 "1920's . . .You could get a new car, or TWO Thompson SMGs" - and I bet when this one is sold, that equation will be reversed for 2018.
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I knew a guy who was a supply sergeant, who had been a coach to me, casually mentioned to me that I should consider going to the academy and flight school, which I did, but no real expectation that all of this would happen. Even when I had been given a command, we crossed paths again and in minutes of casual conversation I learned things from him on finding the right people to delegate to. After he said these things, it was really simple and one of those things, "Why didn't I and others think of that?" It made me look like a hero up and down the chain. He was also widely known for having and showing people his two two brand new Thompsons. There were two nested in a fitted wooden OD box that had the cosmoline still on them. He never let anyone touch them, just look. Hundreds, if not more than a thousand people saw them because he went into the Guard after the war and retired from there after he got too old. It was a WOW at the time, but didn't cross our mind how he got them or if they were legal to own, which they might have been at the time as the mafia had them. He had a son, who also was a career man who probably ended up with them. I learned later from another guy from WW II that there wasn't accountability for weapons during and after the war. He sent German guns home and they actually got there if an officer didn't steal it along the way, which he said was a certainty it it was of noteworthy desirability. He said when they captured soldiers, they had guns in piles as high as guys could throw them. Many were dumped into the sea because they didn't know what to do with them. It was common to fish with hand grenades. Civilians could buy surplus after the war very inexpensively and showed me big buildings around town that were actually kits from the war, and people had boats that special forces used that you could buy crates of, and each worth a lot of money today.
I didn’t read anything you wrote here because I don’t care, but I’ve been squeezing out really stinky farts today. Like really stinky. I tried to poop but it just keeps prairie doggin up in there. Any tips on what to do?
@@Kaktus965 laxatives. A bunch of them
@@josh5641 Oh my hot daughter takes them before she goes to the club everyday, says they make her look skinnyer. Bought her a stripper pole and a boobjob for her 18th birthday. Been payin my medical bills ever since. Shoulda gone bigger on the boobs tho maybe then I could ask a doc why my turds so dang scared of daylight
@@Kaktus965 smoke some weed, that always gets my bowels moving
saw one at my favorite gun store recently in a violim case, i heard my online friends talk abour how hard it was to rack the bolt, so when i gave it a try i couldnt even get a quarter of the way through before checking out, they were right, those charging bolts go hard
17:23 probably the rear site cost more than the whole PPS-43 😅
@@jmagowan12 *we would take
Jaysus Mac Gabhann A bit to fast fire rate in the PPSH, but if the thing would have a vertical grip I would mabye consent
Linus the model28a1 eventually took off the forward grip for mobility, thus the ppsh was technically before it’s time in that department
@@jmagowan12 and a lot of Germans did...as the ammo was interchangeable...they loved that 71 rd drum....
These are really fun to shoot! Very little recoil and muzzle rise (due both to the weight and the compensator) and not terribly loud. When shoulder-fired outdoors at an extended range, it's rather neat (and easy) to see those big, lumbering .45 slugs arcing to the target.
Just gorgeous, this piece of art is deadly beautiful
Ian, what a magnificent series on Thompsons. Thank you so much.
So awesome that you showed us a full disassembly as well.
I've always wanted to see an original Thompson fully stripped down. In particular I was always curious how the front pistol grip was attached. Thanks. 😎👌🏼
"problem was, WWI was over"
That's not much of a problem imo
It is when you're an arms manufacturer
Ben Parsons it is because it was being designed for the close quarters combat of the trenches
@@dionjaywoollaston1349 r/wooosh
Joe Mama world war 2 happened because of the depression, people were poor and like any power mad dictator Hitler took advantage of that
@@benparsons4979 Cringe normie saying r/woosh and not r/woooosh
I have always wanted one,I never forgot about them!
I love this gun! The first time I held one, I was shocked by it's heft, and that was unloaded!
Thanks for the subs, Neptune!
I am not native English speaker and seeing the subtitles help me follow and understand better. Also, I love the 'editor notes' like the dollar conversion of now and then, I always look these things up and you saved me time.
As for editor notes: "… the drum magazine (oh yeah baby) …". 😂
Whoever did the subtitles did a fantastic job!
Only watched a few videos (so far) but the content/information is very interesting. It's also nice to hear someone with both, the knowledge and facts combined 👌
I really respect your professional and no-nonsense approach to firearms. Enjoyable and educational. Thanks for great content.
Those first run War of Independence Thompsons were still seeing action with the IRA up to the 60's and 70s. Solid piece of kit obviously. Worth noting that the Provisional IRA had a somewhat macabre way of raising funds back then: they'd smuggle noteworthy firearms that had seen action into the US and auction them off among their American supporters, so its possible those surviving Thompsons are back in the US somewhere
Billy McKee dug one up from his garden in August 1969...
Given the dates, the Thompson M1921 probably saw more use in the Civil War than the War of Independence.
The IRA raided a Irish army fort in late 1939 primarily to obtain more 45. Ammunition for its Thompsons. Look up the Christmas raid.
@@itsconnorstime I don't need to look it up, my grandfather took part in the raid, spend time in prison for it.
Neptune the subtitles person, thank you and you are awesome.
Such a great video. Thank you for the detail! This was absolutely fantastic
Do you write your own captions?
When you said that you move the selector here for full auto, the cc's had "full auto (RATATATATATA mode)" and it made my day. lol
The Thomson is a real piece of art, could just look at it all day long!
iconic...with a real element of cache...always wanted one...finally got lucky...it is absolutely the last gun I will part with....
The machining on the back end of the barrel is *_gorgeous !!_*
Wow that was really informative in the way the action was explained, thankyou Ian.
Great show on history and production and development history and awesome coverage of the mechanics and engineering of gunsmithing