Great video. I've run 50:1 synthetic mix in all of my powered equipment for more than a decade with zero issues. One fuel container in the garage for both 2 and 4-stroke engines, no chance to put straight gas in one of the 2-strokes.
I put two stoke in to make more gas when I was a kid to finish mowing it ran rough I put a poo load in the tank and I pulled the plug out curiosity and the piston looked shiny new lol. Not sure if it is still that good with EPA for cleaning buy whatever was in it did it well
I've used the same mix with top shelf oils from my moto x bikes in many engines as well. Just nothing with a cat. The new high end oils don't even foul the plugs.
I have never hesitated to use premix in my lawn mower when I run out of straight gas. Never a problem. Good way to use up premix at the end of the season.
I have a story for this, for what it's worth. When I was younger and less knowledgeable in automotive things, I did an oil change on our family lawn tractor when it hit 50 hours. I didn't know the difference between motor oils, so I just put in what I found from the store -- Valvoline 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil. The engine ran fine, even through the winter with a snow blower attachment, until about 90 hours when, all of a sudden while I was mowing, the engine started grinding and I turned it off. The oil, which was blue when it was new, was black and everywhere on the mower deck and the frame. The engine block had a big crack in it. Here's some pictures: imgur.com/a/ejBqq It was weird because the engine didn't bog down or anything, nor was it under any heavy load, it just happened. Called a Cub Cadet authorized service center, they picked it up and took a look. They said they never saw something like this and it was very weird. They got Cub Cadet to foot the bill and they put a new short block in and pay for the labor. Only thing we paid for was the pickup and delivery service from the repair shop. Now I'm more informed, and I know the difference between motor oils. We got a new John Deere lawn tractor and I did the break-in oil change with synthetic 10W-30. Now the Cub Cadet is a dedicated snow blower winter machine. I'd love for you to test 2-cycle oil in a 4-cycle engine. Not sure what the immediate results would be, though, since it took around 40 hours for it to finally do something to my lawn tractor's engine. I'm sure it'd still be interesting though. Hey -- great content as always. Always love watching your videos and love how you interact with everyone in the comments. Have a great day and keep up the good work!
two stroke oil is designed to be burnt in the cylinder so it won't hurt a 4 stroke now put 2 stroke oil in the crank case of the 4 stroke and see what happens
When I was a kid and mowed grass for people, this one guy INSISTED that 2 stroke oil was what needed to be used in the crankcase of his mower (it was a 4 stroke Briggs quantum). I changed the oil to the correct oil twice and when he found out he yelled at me! Of course because I was 13 years old I "didn't know anything." ...Surprisingly over the 5 years I mowed their grass their mower actually never had any problems, but it was definitely louder with the 2 stroke oil vs the 10w30 I tried to put in it .
If u can, find a small 2 stroke motor and try running the recomended oil gas mix for that motor but use marvel mystery oil as the oil in the mix Like if u agree
MMO is much lighter than the proper 2 stroke oil and probably won't provide as much protection. You could try increasing the amount of MMO in the gas/oil mix to compensate, though.
It's been awhile since this has been commented on. But, I would like to see a well! I've ran a cap full in my 450 dirt bike and didnt see any differences other then smell
In a "lawnmower" or "snow blower" type of 4 cycle engine- the most you're going to do is smoke up the exhaust (like a chainsaw or edge trimmer). When you use 2 cycle oil mixed gasoline in a 4 cycle VEHICLE engine that has O2 sensor(s) and catalytic converter(s) that's what will plug up and cause failure. An old pre EFI carbureted engine would just have a smoky exhaust, no real damage done.
Well the carb won't like it too, if you wait long enough the gas evaporates and oil clogs the jets in the carb. Running 2 stroke is not soo smart. Just do oil changes regular and it should be ok...running oil is bad for the environment
I did tip some old rc plane fuel (80% methanol + 20% castor oil?) into a 2 stroke mower tank one time - full throttle was terrifyingly fast but the exhaust smelled nice 😆
I use 2 stroke gas in my 4cycl snowblower alot .last year i let is sit all summer and it started rite up no problem. I think it keeps the ethanol gas from corroding the carburetor also
Depend of the oil, you should take 2 stroke oil with gas stabilizer or it can be really worse with oil in gas (I work in small motors and the old premix gas smells worst and put stain on everything)
@@shellcracker18 I'm contemplating using some 2cycle premix in my 4stroke 50cc engine, but I'm concerned with the carbon deposits. are these deposits of any gravity?
A comparison between different 2 stroke oil would be interesting. Modern synthetic ones actually can be used to clean off old carbon deposits. The old style non-synthetic always left this black gunk in the exhaust. this could be an interesting test.
I have done this twice. I ran 2 cycle gas/mix in my lawn mower one day because I ran out of straight gasoline and was too lazy to run up to the gas station and I had the mix already in the garage. It ran exactly the same. The 2nd time, I mixed up 5 whole gallons for my snowblower and we barely got any snow at all that winter. I only used like 1/2 gallon. At the end of the season I poured the 4.5 gallons into my Dodge Ram. I expected a smoke show, but nothing. It ran 100% fine. I'm thinking it might be a good thing to run 2 stroke mix in a 4 stroke every now and then to help keep the valves and stuff lubed?
I put some lawnmower Stihl Ultra oil in my cars fuel tank every now and again based on that logic, as a fanatic who drives by feel rather than regulations, I tend to notice every minute change in my vehicles performance, I know by my steering wheel turn to either side the difference in pressure of my front tires and by the way the back feels in the same turn the state of back wheels... I also noticed the first time that I put the Stihl in the tank(and flushed it down with a cup of petrol, also I bent under the car, removed the undercover and shook the tank by hand to mix it up for a minute), after a bit of warmup when the engine started receiving the oily petrol the engine made a bit less mechanical noise, which points toward lubrication... After about 25 seconds when the engine warmed up with gradual increase in throttle up to 3000 from 900 rpm at its base running temp which occurs after 11 seconds since start, so 14 seconds of slow raise in rpm... The engine ran much nicer than it did practically since I bought it from Mercedes a few years ago, so it was brand new the last time it ran this quiet, albeit its not mechanically loud, it runs like a healthy engine should but this did reduce the metal to metal clanking sound a bit, as oil should if it leaves any decent film... Also it did increase the acceleration rate a bit, 0-100kmh(~60mph) was reduced by 0.47 seconds average after 10 measurings... Which you can feel, also in neutral the pure engine revs quicker also and more smoothly, aswell... From then I add a 200 ml bottle gradually over a 3 month period, a bit each time I know I will refuel that day... Smooth like butter... No blown valves or any stupid shit like that... Also, buy some synth silicone lube in spray and lube your clutch,gas,brake pedals, every part that moves-lube it, it makes driving nicer, also lube the door hinges and fuel flap hinges, takes away that little extra unnecessary effort and wear on parts...
@@MiltosAuto the wee bit this dude is taking abt using I would say he would never have Ny issue with catalytic converter !!! I've been adding 32oz of diesel to 10 gals of my cars gas for 15 years Never had Ny issue!! My car's got 350000.0miles on the factory fuel pump diesel keeps pump lubed and injectors clean my converter not stopped up still got the 4 that came on it!!
It does not mix well with gasoline. Lacquer thinner (medium reducer) also is not good if you leave it sit for over a week in your fuel system. Completely clogged my Craftsman gt18 when I ran straight thinner in it just to mow some grass for about 15 minutes about as much time I had to run it. Then over a week later I filled up with gas to start it and would not start. No fuel at all. Drained the carb and orange juice came out. 😂 The needle valve was stuck and there was corrosion all inside the carb. Took off the fuel pump to clean in there.
Been doing this for years - running 50:1 premix (marine 2-stroke oil + premium gas + Motorkote) in all my lawn equipment rather than having to mix up a small 40:1 batch for my snowblower, a 50:1 batch for my weed whacker and leaf blower, and keep a container of straight gas for my mowers. I mix up a big fresh batch of the 50:1 every year, and at the end of the year the remainder (if any) goes into my car with no ill effect. Anyway, very informative video as always.
I use 40:1 in all my 2-stroke engines, even though my snowthrower calls for 50:1. Been doing this for years and haven't changed the spark plug in 14 years, snowthrower runs great, starts on first or second pull, ALWAYS! One that I ALWAYS do is add "STABIL" to the gas/oil mix, VERY IMPORTANT!
Crazy i used a 1p to 150p mixture with 98super petrol in my Car with no Cat and the car seems running really good with it. Dyno runs proof that at 23psi of boost there are 0 engine knocks detected in the ecu and the car has more compression with it. I still do this for over a year now car runs PERFECT!!
I did this out of desperation when I had leftover 2-cycle gas from my snowblower and needed to mow before a storm came. It did not seem to harm the mower engine so now I use up my leftover 2-cycle gas in my mower in the spring. I pull the spark plug once a year to check and there is never any buildup to speak of.
When winterizing my marine 4 cycle inboard engines I pour a 1:1 mixture of synthetic 2 stroke oil and gasoline down the carburetor while the engine is running. It surprises me how much can be poured down the engine with little smoke. This makes for a great cheap fogging storage oil.Great work. Great vids ! ! !
yeah I kind of wonder the same thing how two cycle oil would lubricate in the crankcase... it should work fine as it is the only thing lubricating the bearings in a 2 cycle engine
I would be interested in seeing a video dedicated to the lubricity test of gasoline and mixing oils including both conventional and synthetic 2 stroke oil, 4 stroke oil, straight gas and all the appropriate mixtures. Would be neat to see what ones will perform best with less damage to a 2 stroke engine
My oldest poured mixed gas in my side by side this weekend, and this is the first channel/search I thought of. He poured about a gallon of 50:1 in a 8-10 gallon tank, so I topped it off with non-ethanol and some seafoam and it is not smoking and no loss of power. Thanks for the channel!
We use to mix regular engine oil with gas when we were out of 2 stroke oil for the 2 stroke equipment we used . It smoked a lot more but it did it’s job lubricating them . Never had any problems or issues doing this
I have a jug with 2 stroke oil mixed, and since I haven't used it so often I poured some into my pressure washers gas tank and it works fine. No smoke or engine power issues. Sometimes I dump the mixed fuel in my cars tank to get rid of it.
When I'm out of regular gas the lazy in me grabs the weed eater mixed gas. It does fine but I've noticed over the two years of occasional use the blue puff of smoke when I start it. I've never changed the spark plug could be a contributing factor. And the ethonal in the gas....
I use the TC-W3 MARINE 2 stroke oil (has to have the TC-W3 rating) in all 5 of my cars. On my high mileage (192k miles) 2.5L Ford engine, I had a lifter tic-tic-tic on cold mornings. The TC-W3 helped eliminate it. 2stroke TC-W3 oil has been used as an upper cylinder lubricant and cleaner for decades. It is designed to be burned in a combustion cylinder and leaves little to no residue. It is used at a 1 oz to 2 oz per 10 gallon of gas ratio. It does a great job of cleaning intake valves because of its high levels of detergent while lubricating the valve stems and seats. Since it burns without ash. It will not clog a catalytic converter. Over time, it can open up dirty intake valves and improve efficiency. It also acts as a lubricant for injectors.
So satisfying watching you clean these motors. Kinda dissapointing when you don't. Just my opinion. I have done this when i ran out of gas half way through mowing the lawn.
Thanks for doing this video. Now I know what to do with my left-over 2-cycle gas oil mix for my chainsaw at the end of the year. No doubt a constant supply of the gas and oil mix will produce carbon buildup used constantly, however, for a once a year half gallon of use it appears rather harmless. Thanks again.
Back when I had my Motorcycle shop, I was left with the dilemma of what to do and how to dispose of all my waste motor oil. So what I did, as it went into my storage tank (55-gallon plastic drum) I would pour it through a coffee filter to remove any real solids. Then, before heading to the gas station, I would add 1/2 gallon of waste motor oil to 19 gallons gasoline (~19-gallon tank). Now, most of my trucks life was pulling a large, heavy trailer, either delivering or picking up motorcycles, or going 120 miles north to green bay to pick up motorcycles in crates and bring them back to my shop. Now, when doing the longer towing drives to green bay and back, with hot engine, I'd put 2 gallons of waste motor oil to the rest gasoline. Because it was going to be burned right up anyways. Found with a cold engine, it didn't like more than 1/2 gallon, but doing that drive with a trailer, engine nice and hot, it would get burned right out and ran beautiful! In fact, it ran BETTER with the motor oil in while towing! And noticed a water temp drop of about 5*F In all, I guestimate that I burned around 2,000 Gallons of waste motor oil through my truck. Ran excellent, and checked the plugs frequently, never any soot or built up. Never had any trouble with my truck either. Not sure what compression was, but that over-worked little 2002 Nissan Xterra was rock solid vehicle!
@@ProjectFarm The icing on the cake is, I got so sick of working on everyone else's screw-ups and dirty carbs, running without enough oil etc... Everything I own is electric now. No more gas for me :-) Thus began my TY Channel :-) P.S. Back of napkin math, shows that 2000 gallons of gas netted me between 25,000 30,000 miles of driving. If it were gas. MPG didn't seem to change at all with the oil, but it sure ran smoother and seemed to be able to maintain freeway speeds with a fully loaded trailer. Without the added oil, looked at roughly 60 mph with a fully loaded 5,000 lbs being towed. With the oil, it was no problem to maintain 70 mph. This was also when fuel prices were sky high, napkin math says I saved about $7,000 in gas roughly, based on about 14 mpg as a mix between trailer towing and no trailer driving. I saw a slight performance improvement paired with the oil going to the e3 spark plugs over stock platinum, but a bigger performance gain paired with iridium. Sold that truck last summer as I don't have my shop anymore, and my Model S and X can tow more than my truck did. Pulled the forward 5 plugs (Rear plug is a nightmare) just to take a look, and looked like brand new with about 50,000 miles on them.
I have read that many people are using the TCW-3 2-stroke oil 1ounce per 5 gallon in their cars as an upper cylinder lubricant. Most report it does a good job keeping the internal parts of the engine clean.
Been done from the dawn ages without any issues and technically so it shouldn't. The pro is top-end cylinder wall lubrication the cons are emissions, slight loss of performance and the additional cost of premix.
Yeah good to run some though the tank for salvaging engines on the verge of seized. However thinking about it i had never ran it through an EFI setup and id say there is a high chance it will dirty up the injectors.
As a night shift officer, on slow nights I search for intriguing videos like this to expand my mind. I am subscribed to this channel now. Awesome videos! Thank you
This is a good example of a trick we would do in derby cars when the radiator would blow you could keep the motor from seizing when it goes over the 240°f
So when you look in a random fuel can in your shed, you know if it's plain petrol or premix, i.e "as a convenience for the customer" Other brands use other colours, red or green are both quite common.
So do I, sort of... I use about a 250:1 to 200:1 ratio of TC-W2 2 cycle, but I use it in a Cummins diesel. But it doesn't have any emissions equipment, EGR, DPF, nothin.
Great vidio, I have a half a tank (20 gal)of 2 stroke gas to get rid of because I'm going from 2 stroke outboard motor to a 4 stroke. Now I can run it in my riding lawnmower, thanks for solving a big problem
Your welcome. I enjoy all your videos. I ride a honda cr 250 regularly and as you know its a premix fuel. I typically keep 10 to 12 gallons of it around as opposed to straight gas so naturally alot of it ends up in my yard equipment or my sons atv which is 4 stroke. My premix is 32-1 with 93 octane and Klotz brand 2 stroke oil. Most i have ever noticed was the faint smell of the oil while running my mower. Never any smoke or anything
Interesting. For several years our group shared a hunting camp. We had a gas powered generator for lighting in our cabin and patio/sleeping area. Weather here during hunting season is very hot, even in the evening. To protect the small, overworked engine for several hours of hard work, we always used a mix with 2cycle oil to protect and lube the top end of the engine. It never quit during several years of use. I wonder where it is now.
An old Harley Davidson trick, they use to run an ounce to a gallon to keep the hot intake manifold from vaporizing the fuel once it hit the valves. Raises compression, it atomized the air & fuel charge more efficiently and loosened the hydrocarbon buildup.
Great videos! I was just thinking how interesting it would be to see a 4 stroke motor with a 2 stroke top end on it. Might be a difficult project though, with a lot of machining. Thanks, Brian
i used that stuff as a engine starting fluid, worked well when the fuel lines were dry. On the other hand, got my old 4 banger to run on compression igniting engine degreaser, ignition was off, still firing when feeding it the degreaser, it was when i found out my fuel pump was shot. this motor was an odd one, 185psi per cylinder, and it was only 1.3L..
I've always thrown old 2 cycle fuel into 4 cycle engines, but figured I'd check the faithful internet for wisdom first...... It read like disaster, and I thought to myself, 'oh my, what've I done to my engines, and how could I have missed all the destruction I was reading about???'..... Then saw your video, and my mind is at ease again, lol. Thanks for covering this topic.
I once ran 2 stroke mix in a very tired 4 stroke motorcycle on a lark. The performance improvement was quite noticeable. I theorize that the oil has higher btu value than gas pound for pound and that the oil helped seal the rings. When I mentioned this down at the local m/c shop they laughed me out the door.
Everything I'm curious about I got em in your channel. You are doing such a great job @project farm. I actually added 2stroke pre mix in my car gas tank. I used 1oz per 10 gallons of gasoline and as an upper cycle lube 2sktoke pre mix works better than some other expensive gasoline additives. But I've seen some people talk crap about doing so. Thank you for providing the point Sir 😊
In the UK, running premix through a Briggs & Stratton powered mower is quite a common way to dispose of stale 2 stroke premix such as contents of cans stored over winter ( usually with some fresh fuel added to ease starting ). "Official" ways to dispose of the stuff being quite expensive and bureaucratic for small businesses and generally inconvenient for everyone. They'll run indefinitely on the stuff, even stale. Honda and other OHV 4 stroke small engines like it less and tend to get difficult to start. You see more smoke with conventional rather than synthetic oil, the same being true when running it as intended in a small 2 stroke.
The neighbors: "God this guy likes mowing"
LOL! Yes, they would like for me to mow their lawn.
With a lawn that size I don't blame him
Shortest lawn in town probably!
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Loebane so true
Revisiting your old videos really shows how far you've come along as a presentator
Thank you very much!
Very true, this guy has stepped his game up every video for years. Much love and props to you sir. KEEP IT UP!
Truth!
And he's still improving, and somehow continues buying an endless supply of equipment.
Great video. I've run 50:1 synthetic mix in all of my powered equipment for more than a decade with zero issues. One fuel container in the garage for both 2 and 4-stroke engines, no chance to put straight gas in one of the 2-strokes.
Thank you. Thanks for sharing.
I put two stoke in to make more gas when I was a kid to finish mowing it ran rough I put a poo load in the tank and I pulled the plug out curiosity and the piston looked shiny new lol. Not sure if it is still that good with EPA for cleaning buy whatever was in it did it well
I've used the same mix with top shelf oils from my moto x bikes in many engines as well. Just nothing with a cat. The new high end oils don't even foul the plugs.
I have never hesitated to use premix in my lawn mower when I run out of straight gas. Never a problem. Good way to use up premix at the end of the season.
Thanks for sharing.
Legend has it his grass has never been tall
LOL! Yes, I keep it mowed.
He thought about letting it grow once. But then he shot another video.
@Teddy Machette Running it till it's empty will not plug the fuel line or the carb!
This man is the mortal enemy of spark plugs everywhere.
LOL! Thanks for commenting!
Also of people who work nights lol.
He's been through a few of the predator engines :D
Hahaha it's so interesting watching his stuff tho
ElementalMaker naw he is the bane of all grass everywhere
Can you make the engine run on politician's lies? That would be a colossal and continuous source of fuel.
I think you just instantly solved both democrats and republicans problems with that one
Very well said
@@dudebro5169 mostly democrats
Like Chernobyl.. How do you get a nuclear reactor to explode.. Lies.. Watch the Chernobyl series great show..
Yeah, at least for the NEXT 4 years, there would be MORE fuel than we could ever use, LOL!
I bet yer neighbors thought your mower was sick cause it had an iv bag
LOL! Thanks for commenting.
Do this ond
Maynard 59 loved your comment made my day I subbed have a great day it mad my laugh
On a drip lol
funny...lol.....I bag.....
why not try a gas & diesel mix in a 2-stroke engine
Thank you for this recommendation!
what about some of the even more "oily" stuff, such as No. 4 Fuel Oil?
2stroke engines run on diesel when they are warm
It’ll seize up, but that’d still be fun to watch.
gas and diesel separate but if kept mixed it will run but not very.
you should use 2 cycle as engine oil
Thank you for this recommendation!
I like that idea
This is a great idea
I have a story for this, for what it's worth.
When I was younger and less knowledgeable in automotive things, I did an oil change on our family lawn tractor when it hit 50 hours. I didn't know the difference between motor oils, so I just put in what I found from the store -- Valvoline 2-cycle TC-W3 engine oil. The engine ran fine, even through the winter with a snow blower attachment, until about 90 hours when, all of a sudden while I was mowing, the engine started grinding and I turned it off. The oil, which was blue when it was new, was black and everywhere on the mower deck and the frame. The engine block had a big crack in it. Here's some pictures: imgur.com/a/ejBqq It was weird because the engine didn't bog down or anything, nor was it under any heavy load, it just happened.
Called a Cub Cadet authorized service center, they picked it up and took a look. They said they never saw something like this and it was very weird. They got Cub Cadet to foot the bill and they put a new short block in and pay for the labor. Only thing we paid for was the pickup and delivery service from the repair shop.
Now I'm more informed, and I know the difference between motor oils. We got a new John Deere lawn tractor and I did the break-in oil change with synthetic 10W-30. Now the Cub Cadet is a dedicated snow blower winter machine.
I'd love for you to test 2-cycle oil in a 4-cycle engine. Not sure what the immediate results would be, though, since it took around 40 hours for it to finally do something to my lawn tractor's engine. I'm sure it'd still be interesting though.
Hey -- great content as always. Always love watching your videos and love how you interact with everyone in the comments. Have a great day and keep up the good work!
Thats what i thought he was gunna do i was more interested in that test actually
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Thank you!
two stroke oil is designed to be burnt in the cylinder so it won't hurt a 4 stroke now put 2 stroke oil in the crank case of the 4 stroke and see what happens
Thank you for this recommendation!
2 stroke is approx a 30w oil, it should hold up pretty well in moderate temperatures as engine lube
When I was a kid and mowed grass for people, this one guy INSISTED that 2 stroke oil was what needed to be used in the crankcase of his mower (it was a 4 stroke Briggs quantum). I changed the oil to the correct oil twice and when he found out he yelled at me! Of course because I was 13 years old I "didn't know anything." ...Surprisingly over the 5 years I mowed their grass their mower actually never had any problems, but it was definitely louder with the 2 stroke oil vs the 10w30 I tried to put in it .
2 stroke oil is designed to lube the crank bearings in a 2 stroke engine, so I shouldn't run any different
65bug519 drop the oil from the motor and run on the 2 stroke mix
Nitro rc car fuel in a mower plz
Thank you for this recommendation!
I agree
Had a kid in my highscool engine shop put 110 octane race fuel in his gocart engine. Blew it up from running too hot
BRADY SCHROEDER how..
BRADY SCHROEDER the high octane had nothing to do with that
If u can, find a small 2 stroke motor and try running the recomended oil gas mix for that motor but use marvel mystery oil as the oil in the mix
Like if u agree
Thank you for this recommendation!
MMO is much lighter than the proper 2 stroke oil and probably won't provide as much protection. You could try increasing the amount of MMO in the gas/oil mix to compensate, though.
I love mmo
I got one for you... run nitro RC fuel in a diesel engine, 2 stroke engine, and a 4 stroke motor to see what happens.
Thank you for this recommendation!
It's been awhile since this has been commented on. But, I would like to see a well! I've ran a cap full in my 450 dirt bike and didnt see any differences other then smell
In a "lawnmower" or "snow blower" type of 4 cycle engine- the most you're going to do is smoke up the exhaust (like a chainsaw or edge trimmer). When you use 2 cycle oil mixed gasoline in a 4 cycle VEHICLE engine that has O2 sensor(s) and catalytic converter(s) that's what will plug up and cause failure. An old pre EFI carbureted engine would just have a smoky exhaust, no real damage done.
This is a great post regarding the damage that can be caused. Thank you!
Thank you
Well the carb won't like it too, if you wait long enough the gas evaporates and oil clogs the jets in the carb. Running 2 stroke is not soo smart. Just do oil changes regular and it should be ok...running oil is bad for the environment
TC-W3 is ashless, so in low doses it shoudn't affect the o2 sensor nor the cat
So say you have gutted/deleted cats and the o2 sensors tuned out, you could run 2 stroke gas in newer vehicles as well?
Haha looks like you used an IV bag for a Smurf 😂😂😂
LOL! This is funny. Thanks for great humor!
Very funny..made me laugh :-)
Completely true
See what happens when you put pool salt in gasoline
Edit: wow thanks guys I didn’t expect to get this many likes
hmmmmm i like it
Thank you for this idea!
Project Farm no problem
Project Farm great video by the way 👍
JParkes43 thanks
Channels like this are why I love UA-cam. Just a dude chilling out doing crazy stuff to lawnmowers.
LOL! Thank you!
Should see if the lawn mower will run on nitro rc car gas
Thank you for this recommendation!
I did tip some old rc plane fuel (80% methanol + 20% castor oil?) into a 2 stroke mower tank one time - full throttle was terrifyingly fast but the exhaust smelled nice 😆
ed allen it will run great on up to 10 % nitro.
I use 2 stroke gas in my 4cycl snowblower alot .last year i let is sit all summer and it started rite up no problem. I think it keeps the ethanol gas from corroding the carburetor also
Great point!
Depend of the oil, you should take 2 stroke oil with gas stabilizer or it can be really worse with oil in gas (I work in small motors and the old premix gas smells worst and put stain on everything)
Are we assuming theres no damage in using mixed gas in an engine not make for it? Used some in my power washer and I was curious
E C no damage. It lubes as it burns. Just like a 2 stroke works
@@shellcracker18 I'm contemplating using some 2cycle premix in my 4stroke 50cc engine, but I'm concerned with the carbon deposits. are these deposits of any gravity?
A comparison between different 2 stroke oil would be interesting. Modern synthetic ones actually can be used to clean off old carbon deposits. The old style non-synthetic always left this black gunk in the exhaust. this could be an interesting test.
Thank you for the video idea!
With every one of your video's I watch, even these older ones, my respect for you goes up and up. Mad respect and please keep up your fantastic work!
Thanks, will do!
I have done this twice. I ran 2 cycle gas/mix in my lawn mower one day because I ran out of straight gasoline and was too lazy to run up to the gas station and I had the mix already in the garage. It ran exactly the same. The 2nd time, I mixed up 5 whole gallons for my snowblower and we barely got any snow at all that winter. I only used like 1/2 gallon. At the end of the season I poured the 4.5 gallons into my Dodge Ram. I expected a smoke show, but nothing. It ran 100% fine. I'm thinking it might be a good thing to run 2 stroke mix in a 4 stroke every now and then to help keep the valves and stuff lubed?
Thanks for commenting on this. There are some who believe there's benefit in using 2 cycle oil in the gas occasionally.
top cylinder lube?
I put some lawnmower Stihl Ultra oil in my cars fuel tank every now and again based on that logic, as a fanatic who drives by feel rather than regulations, I tend to notice every minute change in my vehicles performance, I know by my steering wheel turn to either side the difference in pressure of my front tires and by the way the back feels in the same turn the state of back wheels... I also noticed the first time that I put the Stihl in the tank(and flushed it down with a cup of petrol, also I bent under the car, removed the undercover and shook the tank by hand to mix it up for a minute), after a bit of warmup when the engine started receiving the oily petrol the engine made a bit less mechanical noise, which points toward lubrication... After about 25 seconds when the engine warmed up with gradual increase in throttle up to 3000 from 900 rpm at its base running temp which occurs after 11 seconds since start, so 14 seconds of slow raise in rpm... The engine ran much nicer than it did practically since I bought it from Mercedes a few years ago, so it was brand new the last time it ran this quiet, albeit its not mechanically loud, it runs like a healthy engine should but this did reduce the metal to metal clanking sound a bit, as oil should if it leaves any decent film... Also it did increase the acceleration rate a bit, 0-100kmh(~60mph) was reduced by 0.47 seconds average after 10 measurings... Which you can feel, also in neutral the pure engine revs quicker also and more smoothly, aswell... From then I add a 200 ml bottle gradually over a 3 month period, a bit each time I know I will refuel that day... Smooth like butter... No blown valves or any stupid shit like that... Also, buy some synth silicone lube in spray and lube your clutch,gas,brake pedals, every part that moves-lube it, it makes driving nicer, also lube the door hinges and fuel flap hinges, takes away that little extra unnecessary effort and wear on parts...
Except that the catalytic converter''s life is probably reduced by the burned oil.
@@MiltosAuto the wee bit this dude is taking abt using I would say he would never have Ny issue with catalytic converter !!! I've been adding 32oz of diesel to 10 gals of my cars gas for 15 years Never had Ny issue!! My car's got 350000.0miles on the factory fuel pump diesel keeps pump lubed and injectors clean my converter not stopped up still got the 4 that came on it!!
I think a mixture of lacquer thinner and gasoline would be an interesting one!
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Acetone is suposed to extend fuel mileage that might be a good test aswell
And hook up a catalytic converter to it see if it cleans the cat
Project Farm take it a step further, and see if thinner added to old fuel can bring it back
It does not mix well with gasoline. Lacquer thinner (medium reducer) also is not good if you leave it sit for over a week in your fuel system. Completely clogged my Craftsman gt18 when I ran straight thinner in it just to mow some grass for about 15 minutes about as much time I had to run it. Then over a week later I filled up with gas to start it and would not start. No fuel at all. Drained the carb and orange juice came out. 😂 The needle valve was stuck and there was corrosion all inside the carb. Took off the fuel pump to clean in there.
Been doing this for years - running 50:1 premix (marine 2-stroke oil + premium gas + Motorkote) in all my lawn equipment rather than having to mix up a small 40:1 batch for my snowblower, a 50:1 batch for my weed whacker and leaf blower, and keep a container of straight gas for my mowers. I mix up a big fresh batch of the 50:1 every year, and at the end of the year the remainder (if any) goes into my car with no ill effect. Anyway, very informative video as always.
I use 40:1 in all my 2-stroke engines, even though my snowthrower calls for 50:1. Been doing this for years and haven't changed the spark plug in 14 years, snowthrower runs great, starts on first or second pull, ALWAYS! One that I ALWAYS do is add "STABIL" to the gas/oil mix, VERY IMPORTANT!
My mower ran out a petrol and I only had 2 stroke mix so I used it with out any problems. Great videos keep the coming
Is it just me or does the combustion chamber on the briggs look like a ballsack? Makes me laugh every time lol.
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This comment made me laugh!
It is not just you that looks like a ball sack. The combustion chamber does as well.
Most of the old flathead engines had the same design combustion chambers.
Can't unsee now
I’m glad to see the Archoil in the background
Yes, I'll be testing it soon. Looking forward to see how it compares to other additives.
Project Farm finally! Thank you ive commented several times on archoil and how it fixed my 04 ford f350 powerstroke engine!
Crazy i used a 1p to 150p mixture with 98super petrol in my Car with no Cat and the car seems running really good with it. Dyno runs proof that at 23psi of boost there are 0 engine knocks detected in the ecu and the car has more compression with it. I still do this for over a year now car runs PERFECT!!
Try using bacon grease or lard as engine oil
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Definitely! That’d be neat.
You could try mixing 4 stroke oil with gas and running it in a two stroke engine.
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great video as always man, keep up the good work.
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I did this out of desperation when I had leftover 2-cycle gas from my snowblower and needed to mow before a storm came. It did not seem to harm the mower engine so now I use up my leftover 2-cycle gas in my mower in the spring. I pull the spark plug once a year to check and there is never any buildup to speak of.
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You're probably one of my favorite channels on youtube.
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Now run the engine with 2 cycle oil as the crankcase oil
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I was thinking the same thing!!!
That will be awesome
yes please!
2-stroke oil is just a straight 20 or 30 weight low-ash non-detergent mineral oil with no additives. It'll work as a crankcase oil, but isn't optimal.
When winterizing my marine 4 cycle inboard engines I pour a 1:1 mixture of synthetic 2 stroke oil and gasoline down the carburetor while the engine is running. It surprises me how much can be poured down the engine with little smoke. This makes for a great cheap fogging storage oil.Great work. Great vids ! ! !
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what if you used water and dry ice in the engine for cooling? and how long would it last?
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Holy cow, I really enjoyed that!! Once again, another fun, informative video!!! 2 thumbs up, waaaaay up!! Thank you
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Love this video! I’m guilty of dumping the fuel from a 2 stroke into a 4 stroke when I needed just enough gas to finish a job! Great to see it tested!
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You should put only 2 stroke oil into the crankcase
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It'd run for far too long. Seen an engine go 200 miles on nothing but used vegetable oil
Ricardo it works i sometimes top up the mower with what ever oil! Works fine
yeah I kind of wonder the same thing how two cycle oil would lubricate in the crankcase... it should work fine as it is the only thing lubricating the bearings in a 2 cycle engine
I would be interested in seeing a video dedicated to the lubricity test of gasoline and mixing oils including both conventional and synthetic 2 stroke oil, 4 stroke oil, straight gas and all the appropriate mixtures. Would be neat to see what ones will perform best with less damage to a 2 stroke engine
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My oldest poured mixed gas in my side by side this weekend, and this is the first channel/search I thought of. He poured about a gallon of 50:1 in a 8-10 gallon tank, so I topped it off with non-ethanol and some seafoam and it is not smoking and no loss of power. Thanks for the channel!
You should run it 2oz. To 10gal for upper cylinder lube
We use to mix regular engine oil with gas when we were out of 2 stroke oil for the 2 stroke equipment we used . It smoked a lot more but it did it’s job lubricating them . Never had any problems or issues doing this
That may actually come in handy one day. Thanks dude 🤙
Probably load-up the exhaust port, might need to be shook up again after sitting also.
I had to run 2 stroke gas in my car one...It actually ran pretty good!
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Straight 2cycle oil in engine case. What will it do to the engine
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Another way to look at his explanation of two strokes: a 2 stroke does everything a 4 stroke can in 2 strokes while a 4 cycle takes 4
Matt ...but, a four stroke does it much more efficiently, with more power for less fuel (and emissions.)
@@ALittleBitOfGay obviously, i should have mentioned this lol
You should try, remove the normal engine oil, and add 2 stroke oil to the engine instead of normal 4 stroke oil :-)
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I have a jug with 2 stroke oil mixed, and since I haven't used it so often I poured some into my pressure washers gas tank and it works fine. No smoke or engine power issues. Sometimes I dump the mixed fuel in my cars tank to get rid of it.
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A Briggs will run on unicorn farts
Josh Shaw ....yep its true .it will run on fart juice. ..and beyond
What about flex Seal
Haha nice!!
Damn right! Nothing will stop a Briggs.
Briggs sucks ass. Buy a Kohler
I love these videos! This is some awesome and informative entertainment.
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The more of these engine videos I watch the more I appreciate the genius of Nicholas Otto and Rudolph Diesel.
4 to 1 YOURE CRAZY! I'm shocked that worked. Thanks for trying it!
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When I'm out of regular gas the lazy in me grabs the weed eater mixed gas. It does fine but I've noticed over the two years of occasional use the blue puff of smoke when I start it. I've never changed the spark plug could be a contributing factor. And the ethonal in the gas....
Please retry with the crankcase oil also 2 cycle oil (:
Or with nitro rc as fuel, nitromethane. It has lubricant in the fuel also
I'll definitely test it in the crankcase. Also, thank you for the rc fuel recommendation!
Love the channel, sure shows what products can do and can't do.
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I use the TC-W3 MARINE 2 stroke oil (has to have the TC-W3 rating) in all 5 of my cars. On my high mileage (192k miles) 2.5L Ford engine, I had a lifter tic-tic-tic on cold mornings. The TC-W3 helped eliminate it. 2stroke TC-W3 oil has been used as an upper cylinder lubricant and cleaner for decades.
It is designed to be burned in a combustion cylinder and leaves little to no residue.
It is used at a 1 oz to 2 oz per 10 gallon of gas ratio.
It does a great job of cleaning intake valves because of its high levels of detergent while lubricating the valve stems
and seats. Since it burns without ash. It will not clog a catalytic converter.
Over time, it can open up dirty intake valves and improve efficiency.
It also acts as a lubricant for injectors.
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Empty the 4stroke oil and run the 2 stroke oil and see if it will lubercate properly
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Wd-40 as engine oil
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Actually doesn't do too bad. We tried a bunch of different things in my highschool engine shop class to figure this kind of stuff out
I guess if you put a ton of WD-40 in it would work okay, but it’s a water based lubricant. Very thin.
the guys at haggard garage did that and some magazine covered them
For some reason I missed this in your great collection of videos, as always job well done! Keep up the good work!
Thanks, will do!
NOTICE HOW THE CARBON ISNT STICKING TO THE CYLINDER !!!
Alejandro Aguilar no
Yup, it's just an oily residue that raises compression and loosens carbon.
So satisfying watching you clean these motors. Kinda dissapointing when you don't. Just my opinion. I have done this when i ran out of gas half way through mowing the lawn.
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You are My fav youtuber
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Substitute engine oil for gasoline!
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Thanks for doing this video. Now I know what to do with my left-over 2-cycle gas oil mix for my chainsaw at the end of the year. No doubt a constant supply of the gas and oil mix will produce carbon buildup used constantly, however, for a once a year half gallon of use it appears rather harmless. Thanks again.
Thank you
perhaps use a non ashless formula of 2 cycle. Get a non outboard type oil.
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most mdern 2 stroke oil prevents it smoking, not like the old stuff!
I know its a real pain, no point in getting a 2t anymore
I run a very small amount of 2 cycle oil in my 4 cycle gas to increase fuel lubricity.
I guess it's going to preserve your combustion chamber longer than expected.
@@nuclearwinter21 If you run one ounce of tc-w3 Marine 2-stroke oil in 5 gallons of fuel for your automobile it will be beneficial.
Please make more videos about comparing products.
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Back when I had my Motorcycle shop, I was left with the dilemma of what to do and how to dispose of all my waste motor oil. So what I did, as it went into my storage tank (55-gallon plastic drum) I would pour it through a coffee filter to remove any real solids. Then, before heading to the gas station, I would add 1/2 gallon of waste motor oil to 19 gallons gasoline (~19-gallon tank).
Now, most of my trucks life was pulling a large, heavy trailer, either delivering or picking up motorcycles, or going 120 miles north to green bay to pick up motorcycles in crates and bring them back to my shop.
Now, when doing the longer towing drives to green bay and back, with hot engine, I'd put 2 gallons of waste motor oil to the rest gasoline. Because it was going to be burned right up anyways. Found with a cold engine, it didn't like more than 1/2 gallon, but doing that drive with a trailer, engine nice and hot, it would get burned right out and ran beautiful! In fact, it ran BETTER with the motor oil in while towing! And noticed a water temp drop of about 5*F
In all, I guestimate that I burned around 2,000 Gallons of waste motor oil through my truck. Ran excellent, and checked the plugs frequently, never any soot or built up. Never had any trouble with my truck either. Not sure what compression was, but that over-worked little 2002 Nissan Xterra was rock solid vehicle!
Very impressive! Thanks for sharing this experience.
@@ProjectFarm The icing on the cake is, I got so sick of working on everyone else's screw-ups and dirty carbs, running without enough oil etc... Everything I own is electric now. No more gas for me :-) Thus began my TY Channel :-)
P.S. Back of napkin math, shows that 2000 gallons of gas netted me between 25,000 30,000 miles of driving. If it were gas. MPG didn't seem to change at all with the oil, but it sure ran smoother and seemed to be able to maintain freeway speeds with a fully loaded trailer. Without the added oil, looked at roughly 60 mph with a fully loaded 5,000 lbs being towed. With the oil, it was no problem to maintain 70 mph. This was also when fuel prices were sky high, napkin math says I saved about $7,000 in gas roughly, based on about 14 mpg as a mix between trailer towing and no trailer driving.
I saw a slight performance improvement paired with the oil going to the e3 spark plugs over stock platinum, but a bigger performance gain paired with iridium. Sold that truck last summer as I don't have my shop anymore, and my Model S and X can tow more than my truck did. Pulled the forward 5 plugs (Rear plug is a nightmare) just to take a look, and looked like brand new with about 50,000 miles on them.
Really want to see a racing mower build
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Hello! You should see what products that can get rid of carbon buildups the best thanks!
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I have read that many people are using the TCW-3 2-stroke oil 1ounce per 5 gallon in their cars as an upper cylinder lubricant. Most report it does a good job keeping the internal parts of the engine clean.
I want to see if normal gasoline would clean the junk of the cylinder head after running for a bit . Great video!
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so , does the 2T actually help lubricate the pistons? or should i continue using my MMO instead?
I've burned old 2cycle mix in my old caravan, ran fine just blew out blue exhaust until next fill up.
Been done from the dawn ages without any issues and technically so it shouldn't. The pro is top-end cylinder wall lubrication the cons are emissions, slight loss of performance and the additional cost of premix.
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Yeah good to run some though the tank for salvaging engines on the verge of seized. However thinking about it i had never ran it through an EFI setup and id say there is a high chance it will dirty up the injectors.
As a night shift officer, on slow nights I search for intriguing videos like this to expand my mind. I am subscribed to this channel now. Awesome videos! Thank you
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I put two stroke in my coffee every morning
lol
That's a good one that'll get you up and going
Keeps internal part lubed
Boi
This is a good example of a trick we would do in derby cars when the radiator would blow you could keep the motor from seizing when it goes over the 240°f
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can you use wd40 instead of oil in an engine ?
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wd40 is a solvent not a lubricant so it wouldn't be good
next fuel/oil mix in the crankcase
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Thank you, this answered all of my questions and doubts!!!
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Yes it does . My very first go kart the owner who had it before me ran the 2 cycle oil as oil in the crank case and then it was ran with 2 stroke
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Must've had a hell of an oil burning problem lol. Should've used smokeless 2 stroke for the sump and for the gas
Why is 2-cycle oil blue compared to browish/gold?
I believe it's dyed to inform consumers that it's different than 4 cycle oil.
Project Farm interesting thanks for the response!
here in germany i got red oil... maybe to know which manufacturer and to recognise it
Here in poland 2stroke oil is red also
So when you look in a random fuel can in your shed, you know if it's plain petrol or premix, i.e "as a convenience for the customer" Other brands use other colours, red or green are both quite common.
I do that all the time
Thanks for commenting on this. i was surprised by how quickly buildup formed inside the engine.
So do I, sort of... I use about a 250:1 to 200:1 ratio of TC-W2 2 cycle, but I use it in a Cummins diesel. But it doesn't have any emissions equipment, EGR, DPF, nothin.
I meant TC-W3, sorry
Don Raabe me too run out of regular in a pinch and you pour in the pre mix.
Don Raabe same and my mower has been running for 14 years and is still running great... its a brigs and stratton btw
Great vidio, I have a half a tank (20 gal)of 2 stroke gas to get rid of because I'm going from 2 stroke outboard motor to a 4 stroke. Now I can run it in my riding lawnmower, thanks for solving a big problem
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I put 2 stroke oil in everything
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Including cars?
It's crap for frying eggs. But does reduce bowel strain.
Yes, yes it will work. I do it all the time lol
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Me too
Your welcome. I enjoy all your videos. I ride a honda cr 250 regularly and as you know its a premix fuel. I typically keep 10 to 12 gallons of it around as opposed to straight gas so naturally alot of it ends up in my yard equipment or my sons atv which is 4 stroke. My premix is 32-1 with 93 octane and Klotz brand 2 stroke oil. Most i have ever noticed was the faint smell of the oil while running my mower. Never any smoke or anything
Me too
Larry Stout i ran my push mower on a 40:1 mix that i use for my kx125. 93 octane and superM 2 stroke oil. Ran perfect lol
Does the sugar from coke ruin an engine. Can of coke in the lawnmower tank.
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He did something similar with monster energy. I think it'd be about the same difference.
Interesting. For several years our group shared a hunting camp. We had a gas powered generator for lighting in our cabin and patio/sleeping area. Weather here during hunting season is very hot, even in the evening. To protect the small, overworked engine for several hours of hard work, we always used a mix with 2cycle oil to protect and lube the top end of the engine. It never quit during several years of use. I wonder where it is now.
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An old Harley Davidson trick, they use to run an ounce to a gallon to keep the hot intake manifold from vaporizing the fuel once it hit the valves. Raises compression, it atomized the air & fuel charge more efficiently and loosened the hydrocarbon buildup.
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How many engines does this guy have?!?
scripty he has them all. There is a shortage in his area now.
LOL! Yes, the price of used mowers has doubled. Thanks for commenting.
Run a 4 stroke on 2 stroke fuel with no oil in the crank case and see how long it will last
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soaringtractor too see if it will provide some form of lubrication for the cylender and run longer then just regular gas
it will be like his other engine where the big end let go
I actually run 50 to one ..i use it in all my mowers except the big scag..never had a problem in 10 years..thanks
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Do strimmers
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Great videos! I was just thinking how interesting it would be to see a 4 stroke motor with a 2 stroke top end on it. Might be a difficult project though, with a lot of machining. Thanks, Brian
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try to run an engine on body spray like axe or something
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Or spray deodorant
OOOIOOII it’s basically the same thing isn’t it
i used that stuff as a engine starting fluid, worked well when the fuel lines were dry.
On the other hand, got my old 4 banger to run on compression igniting engine degreaser, ignition was off, still firing when feeding it the degreaser, it was when i found out my fuel pump was shot. this motor was an odd one, 185psi per cylinder, and it was only 1.3L..
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I've always thrown old 2 cycle fuel into 4 cycle engines, but figured I'd check the faithful internet for wisdom first...... It read like disaster, and I thought to myself, 'oh my, what've I done to my engines, and how could I have missed all the destruction I was reading about???'..... Then saw your video, and my mind is at ease again, lol. Thanks for covering this topic.
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The manufacturers explicitly state not to run a gas/oil mix to run a 4 cycle engine.
Reason - It will make the engine last longer.
No profit in that.
excellent comment.
I once ran 2 stroke mix in a very tired 4 stroke motorcycle on a lark. The performance improvement was quite noticeable. I theorize that the oil has higher btu value than gas pound for pound and that the oil helped seal the rings. When I mentioned this down at the local m/c shop they laughed me out the door.
Lots of others have commented that they use premix in their 4 stroke engines.
Interesting. 15 yrs. on motorhead forums I'd never read that. Anyway, I just found your videos. Excellent content sir.
Everything I'm curious about I got em in your channel. You are doing such a great job @project farm. I actually added 2stroke pre mix in my car gas tank. I used 1oz per 10 gallons of gasoline and as an upper cycle lube 2sktoke pre mix works better than some other expensive gasoline additives. But I've seen some people talk crap about doing so. Thank you for providing the point Sir 😊
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In the UK, running premix through a Briggs & Stratton powered mower is quite a common way to dispose of stale 2 stroke premix such as contents of cans stored over winter ( usually with some fresh fuel added to ease starting ). "Official" ways to dispose of the stuff being quite expensive and bureaucratic for small businesses and generally inconvenient for everyone. They'll run indefinitely on the stuff, even stale. Honda and other OHV 4 stroke small engines like it less and tend to get difficult to start. You see more smoke with conventional rather than synthetic oil, the same being true when running it as intended in a small 2 stroke.
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