Why do we treat drug offenders worse than pedophiles, abusers, murderers and rapists? Because they involve actual **work** and way easier to bust drugs then spending a month working one crime. So they promote idiots who learn cutting corners is the way to go.
My father was murdered in 2005. I remember the time before the perpetrators were caught, it was impossible to trust anyone. Thankfully they were caught and that uncertainty was replaced with anger, hatred and sadness. Now 15 years later, it's as if no one remembers or gives a damn. I can't imagine how much worse that would have been if no one had ever been caught though. Thank you for giving a damn. On behalf of those who feel forgotten.
Y not ask to have ur fathers case featured?? Or y not u do a video?? Give him the chance to b remembered n spread awareness?? Maybe u can find some peace n solace within urself...Just suggesting... Plz dont come for me lol
It's not something I can ever be at peace with, but I'm at peace with that. If that makes any sense. I'm used to the emotions. It's not something I want to be at peace with either. I will never forget, I will never forgive. I do appreciate the suggestion though. Thank you.
RDJ2 I’m so sorry for the pain you have to endure. There are lots of us that think about cases like your fathers all the time and pray for the families. Please don’t think your father was forgotten. Extra prayers for you and your family❤️
@@ApocryphalDude The push and funding from william Randolph Hearst made it easy. This happened while the puritanical, liberty breaching act of prohibition was still fresh in the air.
I’m sure the counsellor’s heart was in the right place, but you can’t rehab violent sex offenders. Seems like a lot of these killers turn out to be sex offenders released early.
As time passes, witnesses die or otherwise become unavailable, physical evidence is lost, and overall memories fade -- it becomes increasingly more difficult to amass enough evidence to support a conviction. Can you recall your whereabouts on a specific date 30+ years ago? Can you adduce evidence to support that alibi?
@@williamharris8367 this is also why there is a statute of limitations on murder in other countries which sounds crazy to Americans and yet a statute of limitations on rape is fine. Considering the number of cases where rape, which is bad enough, escalates in serious physical assaults and murder or into serial rapes .... It's kind of shocking. But I'm biased because I'm a woman and therefore likely to be raped in my lifetime, 1 in 4 of us is and that number is likely higher. I know what it feels like to self police everything from makeup and clothes to how I make friends with men to make sure I reduce the risk of being blamed for my own rape. I know it's never about making women feel safer from opportunistic sexual assault, it's about protecting men who can't read body language and don't understand women might submit in order to avoid violence. *Giving the date rapists an out also gives violent, random rapists an out as well.*
@@princesstamika Well if a minority of women didn't make false rape claims then there would be no need for such a system. Think you're aiming at the wrong target here.
@@williamharris8367 That really makes no sense. If they could prove a murder case with DNA, they could prove rape. Unfortunately our society sees rape as not as bad as some other types of violent crime, so they have applied a statute of limitations to it. This is an old patriarchal way of thinking, and many states are removing SOLs from sexual assault charges.
Unless the sexual offense was not an offense. The last time I looked, urinating in public was a sexual offense in13 states. So was having consensual sex if one or both were under 18. That’s what caused Georgia to decide that their 20,000 “sex offenders” boiled down to about 1/10 minutes f them actually posing risks to society.
No - there are not. Sex crimes are not crimes done for economic gain, like selling drugs or committing burglaries. That's why sex offenders cut across all social and economic groups.
It's one thing for a therapist to want to help a guy out and get him a job and try to get him on the right path. But it is an entirely different thing to let a convicted rapist come live in your home with your wife and children.
Perhaps if he’d done 30 years of his 30 year sentence helana would be happily married with kids now. You’ve gotta blame the American justice system for this atrocity. What point is there giving someone 30 years and allowing them back into society after 4. Crazy.
I guess the do-good counselor didn't twig on when the half clad body of a raped murdered woman showed up in that field... yeah right. He damn well knew why Curtis was given forty years in the first place! I find it hard to believe that he didn't put two and two together!
Bobby Lawson In this instance, it was the Prison Parole Board that allowed this man with a 30 year sentence, who was offered a place to live and work, an early release.
I wonder if those people on the parole board that released him after only 4 yrs into his 30 year sentence, ever heard/read about his arrest for her murder, and got to feel the guilt knowing they were totally responsible for it?
@Karen Soo Unless it is like the rape here, so forthcoming and violent, rape is pretty hard to prove. For much offenses of rape that take place without much physical violence, it is pretty hard to prove. More like he said/she said.
@@FlyAmeliaEarheartAnd yet, even those investigators couldn’t do shit about this rapist because of the statute of limitations. YOU need to grow up. Keep licking those boots babe 👢
Serving only 4 years of a 30 years previous sentence ? Yeah very discusting ! The devil killed an Angel and enjoy his life 🤮 because society gave him a second chance !
@@MrQuietman87 That was probably his 25th second chance, each time his offenses got more serious. That's the usual slope of violent crime in "progressive" countries.
If white had served his 30yr sentence like he was supposed to, then that poor girl would still be alive! The justice system failed Helene and her family!
Why do so many states/jurisdictions have a statute of limitations on sexual abuse and the sentencing for the violent crime of rape is too often less than for drug crimes? As a woman, it's hard not to be offended by what that implies.
As a man I'm extremely ashamed that so many other men (especially those in authority), view women in such a way that belittles the effects that severe violent-attacks have on women, along with the long-lasting damage suffered not just by victims, but also by their families & loved ones!
It's been a pleasure getting to know them. They really have worked so hard to get justice and it was a pleasure playing a small role in the DNA part. Everyone deserves friends like these. It really showed me how special Helene was.
It is so satisfying to see the meticulous work and perseverance of so many come together to solve this case. Thank you for the careful work you put into these videos.
When I was serving in the British army in Belfast in the early '90's, the tail end charlie in the patrol I was leading heard a faint cry from a secured car park. He alerted me to this and together the patrol isolated the scene and found a lady barely, alive and naked from the waist down. She had been battered so severely that one of her eyes had been forced from it's socket. Whilst our team medic attended to the lady, I radioed for an ambulance and police. It bothers me still that I don't know if the lady survived or whether her attacker was ever found. Believe me, I have witnessed some bad shit in my 24 years as a soldier but that winter night still haunts my dreams.
Davy Mckeown - If you remember the date or can even ballpark it somewhat close, try contacting the local (Belfast) PD. They might humor you, you never know. Thats what I would do, because it would slowly drive me nuts, not knowing what happened. I hope youll get your answers and Im rooting for her, I hope she survived and got justice. Other way is to check the local papers from that time, hopefully they are online. Good luck, honey :)
Thank God you guys were there with an eagle eared person and you didn't blow it off! I hope you find answers sir. You all deserve them! Thankyou for saving that lady from that monster. Please be safe.😷💔🙏🤘🏼
I do not deserve any credit for what happened that night, the soldier who heard the lady's faint whimper and the one who administered first aid are due credit. I will pass on however your thoughts to them. Thank you for the work you do, closure is important and you help humanity in that regard.
I had a bad childhood but I don’t go out and kill that’s not acceptable you just pick yourself up and have a better life make your kids have a better life and teach them right and wrong
The communists are the ones claiming that people can't help but kill because they are poor and have a bad childhood. It feeds their narrative that all crime is actually class warfare. It's totally bogus, of course.
What about all those dear Jewish people who suffered in WW2 A horror everyday we will never be able to process Those that did survive went on to live productive lives
I saw this comment and wanted to see how similar and dang. This is maybe the first time I've seen hypnotism really work. Sure the image did not crack the case, but it is uncanny. I wonder how many other cases hypnotism have been useful in. I've only ever heard be brought up as a novelty in cold cases.
Sometimes ppl mean well, but are too soft and are manipulated by evil people. That’s why I really don’t trust too many people after watching these cases so many years now. If it’s a rape and murder case, usually people don’t change and can’t be rehabilitated, so I say throw the book at them and keep them in jail or use the death penalty quickly, because if they get out on the streets they usually reoffend and kill more innocent people. I am thoroughly disgusted at some countries that let these types of criminals out way too early and they end up torturing and taking more lives!! Such injustice really, and how is the community supposed to feel safe?? In our country it varies by state, some are too soft on these criminals as in this case.
My grandfather was a foundling, I wonder what I would find out; From what I know they were all working-class (read poor) Londoners, probably a bunch of Ladies of the Night, footpads and muggers. At least we weren't from the Rookeries.
@deborah DeborahR The only issue I can see with that is shady individuals/companies who might look through those records for certain DNA fragments ie insurance companies looking for cancer susceptible fragments to deny coverage, etc.
@deborah DeborahR I mostly agree to that. I wouldn't have a personal problem with it, the only think that it is an invasion of privacy as far as the child is concerned.
Love the ‘solved cases’ videos. It may not be long, but I await the day that a case either gets a major break or gets solved based off the work your channel and others like it do! Thanks HCF! 🏋️♀️🗄🗂’s!!
@QTee You're full of horse dung by implying women were worth less in sentencing, etc. Out of every 100 murders 77 are men, and 23 women, yet the vast majority of media cases are regarding women. All the tv programs focus on women cases. For the most part it is men that do the scientific work and legal work to catch the fruitcake killers.
Why is the justice system so lenient with some offenders & so harsh on others? It seems like it is only guesswork. Whatever sentence I hear handed down in any case, I like the end of the sentence to read, no chance of parole. TgT
Well because of much better DNA technology you can solve these cold cases from decades before. But at the same time you can exonerate people they were wrongly convicted in cases many decades before.
What a shame! A beautiful girl killed so senselessly. Also hardworking. How many people would walk 2 miles home in the dark on a cold Colorado winter's evening on a regular basis? That doesn't sound safe anywhere anymore 😑 that said, wonderful and brilliant police work. Kudos to them. God bless her. May she rest in peace🙏
NO limits on rape - let's change that! ......'I knew there was something too wild hair about that guy I was married to!' said his wife of 30 days, I can imagine!
This is exactly why the murder squad podcast was started. They are one of the more professional true crime podcasts and go over cold cases with the intent to solve them. I can't recommend them enough.
She really was. A tragic loss honestly a year older than me and I cannot imagine the pain her family must have gone through and some never knowing who did this to their daughter
Spent 40 years free as a bird . Then in old age , lives out his golden years on the taxpayers dime. Looks like it worked out pretty good for him. Vote people into political office who will bring back the death penalty !
I thank my Supreme being for the miracle of DNA and genealogical matching .if my relative did this evil I wouldn't mind them catching through my family tree.Id hand them over myself.
If he had been allowed to serve his original 30 year sentence instead of being released in 1979 after serving just 4 years, he wouldn't have been able to hurt Helene in 1980. I put the blame firmly on the criminal justice system.
And I am thinking the opposite... the video is really good except for the terrible annoying background music. My ears are so tuned into it, I have a hard time hearing the narrator.
Always waiting for your videos!! You’re my favorite out of anyone on here. Your voice is perfect, the music is perfect, the dedication and the SHORT intro to your channel. It’s all straight to the point but also telling the story at the same time. I wish you’d post more 😩
40 years later....amazing. I’m so glad that DNA 🧬 is solving so many cases of these horrific, senseless, despicable crimes against innocent members of society. I would like all these scumbag, evil, perverts to get what they’ve got coming to them!!
After watching this and, of course, seeing the arrest of the Golden State killer after so many years makes me think maybe I should upload my data to GED match.
There is something odd wirh this councilers behavior i just can't believe anyone with a sane mind would do such a thing did he have another motive??? We will never know!
There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on rape, abduction, and murder charges. There shouldn't even be parole eligibility FOR rape, abduction, and murder sentences either.
Wow such a lovely young woman. She was clearly loved and a source of hope and inspiration to those who knew her. I'm thorough impressed by the efforts of her HS club who maintained the scholarship and became involved in her cold case.
I will be eternally grateful that I stumbled upon your report during a bout of insomnia. I have been checking in on this case for 40 years. I was in Helene's graduating class at Wheaton and remember her as small, but mighty. She was a kind, gentle and intelligent young woman. The news of her horrific murder devastated our class and the entire Wheaton community. It is a shame that so many of her immediate family were not alive to see her killer caught.
Every time I hear a story of DNA solving a brutal crime like this, I feel as if, in addition to the thanks of tenacious police work, we should also thank the tenacious scientists who discovered the structure of DNA in the 1950s: British Rosalind Franklin, and Maurice Wilkins, and American James Watson. Watson and Wilkins went on to win the Nobel Prize. Unfortunately, Ms. Franklin passed away before the award was given.
The narrator sounds like she’s close to crying or trying to control herself bursting into tears as she relates the tragic story. Maybe she’s very much affected by the story.
This is so sad and frustrating that it took 40 years to solve. 😥😪🥵 The man who did this cannot be excused for his actions. Yes you can have a really bad childhood, however as an adult he became responsible how he behaved, and the choices he made. Sad all round 😥😪🥵Joanne
Now the murderer gets to enjoy 3 meals a day, free medical care , warm dry bed , underfloor heating, books to read, television in comfortable cell ; when his life would have been far more difficult living on his own, in a cold uninsulated house.
I too, listen to Murder Squad Podcast with Paul Holes and Billy Jensen. As a Family Genealogist, I downloaded my DNA to GEDMatch and gave my permission for the use of my DNA by law enforcement. If I can help solve a crime with my DNA especially a missing person or murder case, I feel why not! I have nothing to hide and if someone in my DNA tree have committed a crime, then they are guilty and deserve to be caught. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering the victims family are going through. The faster a criminal is caught the less victims they have. I also feel we worry to much about our privacy through DNA. Let worry about criminals getting away with crime and missing people being found. Let’s give a Jane Doe or a John Doe back their true identity for remaining families to have closure.
there shouldn’t be a statute of limitations on sexual assault. Especially now with the advances made in DNA testing. Not even talking about cold cases but even in recent cases the SoL can (and has) expired on many sex assault cases because DNA evidence sits on a shelf in an evidence room due to backlogs.
No murderer deserves to be set free on the streets ever!! And no judge should ever release a crook like that based on "good behavior" or crap like that...
As of July 2024, he is still incarcerated in Colorado. He will not be eligible for parole until 2039 And for his first parole hearing in 2040 , when he will be 83 years old.
I love Jensen & Holes! It's really fascinating and informative without the dramatic speculation of other 'talkie' crime podcasts and channels. Plus, Paul Holes' voice is perfect for the medium;)
To think of how these victims felt when this happened to them is so awful that it makes you think that they didn't think this would happen to them either.
When you're sentenced to 30 years for "rape at knife point" you should have to serve all your time. If he had, she would still be alive
Why can’t these sex criminals be castrated? That would help, I’m fairly certain, but I’m sure others would find a problem with it 🤷🏼♀️
Why do we treat drug offenders worse than pedophiles, abusers, murderers and rapists? Because they involve actual **work** and way easier to bust drugs then spending a month working one crime. So they promote idiots who learn cutting corners is the way to go.
InfoJunkie america has to many rights
Unfortunately , all too common!
Beside no one knows how many murder he might have done gone undetected
My father was murdered in 2005. I remember the time before the perpetrators were caught, it was impossible to trust anyone. Thankfully they were caught and that uncertainty was replaced with anger, hatred and sadness. Now 15 years later, it's as if no one remembers or gives a damn. I can't imagine how much worse that would have been if no one had ever been caught though. Thank you for giving a damn. On behalf of those who feel forgotten.
Y not ask to have ur fathers case featured?? Or y not u do a video?? Give him the chance to b remembered n spread awareness?? Maybe u can find some peace n solace within urself...Just suggesting... Plz dont come for me lol
It's not something I can ever be at peace with, but I'm at peace with that. If that makes any sense. I'm used to the emotions. It's not something I want to be at peace with either. I will never forget, I will never forgive.
I do appreciate the suggestion though. Thank you.
RDJ2 I can’t imagine the pain you and your family must’ve (and still are) going through. I’m so sorry for your loss 🙏🏼
@@RDJ2
I'm so sorry for your loss. As long as your father's memory is alive in you he's not forgotten. Love and Light 🌼
RDJ2 I’m so sorry for the pain you have to endure. There are lots of us that think about cases like your fathers all the time and pray for the families. Please don’t think your father was forgotten. Extra prayers for you and your family❤️
There are people that serve longer sentences for marijuana charges. How and why was he released after only 4 years? Smh
MJ was illegalized in the USA because they needed additional suppressions against low-power classes of citizens.
I said the same thing!!
@@ApocryphalDude The push and funding from william Randolph Hearst made it easy. This happened while the puritanical, liberty breaching act of prohibition was still fresh in the air.
I’m sure the counsellor’s heart was in the right place, but you can’t rehab violent sex offenders. Seems like a lot of these killers turn out to be sex offenders released early.
Bc ‘merika!
Why the eff is there a "statute of limitations" on ANYTHING, especially rape. If you DID IT, you DID IT!
As time passes, witnesses die or otherwise become unavailable, physical evidence is lost, and overall memories fade -- it becomes increasingly more difficult to amass enough evidence to support a conviction.
Can you recall your whereabouts on a specific date 30+ years ago? Can you adduce evidence to support that alibi?
To protect men accused of rape. The entire system is about protecting those accused of rape rather than victims.
@@williamharris8367 this is also why there is a statute of limitations on murder in other countries which sounds crazy to Americans and yet a statute of limitations on rape is fine. Considering the number of cases where rape, which is bad enough, escalates in serious physical assaults and murder or into serial rapes .... It's kind of shocking. But I'm biased because I'm a woman and therefore likely to be raped in my lifetime, 1 in 4 of us is and that number is likely higher. I know what it feels like to self police everything from makeup and clothes to how I make friends with men to make sure I reduce the risk of being blamed for my own rape. I know it's never about making women feel safer from opportunistic sexual assault, it's about protecting men who can't read body language and don't understand women might submit in order to avoid violence. *Giving the date rapists an out also gives violent, random rapists an out as well.*
@@princesstamika Well if a minority of women didn't make false rape claims then there would be no need for such a system. Think you're aiming at the wrong target here.
@@williamharris8367 That really makes no sense. If they could prove a murder case with DNA, they could prove rape. Unfortunately our society sees rape as not as bad as some other types of violent crime, so they have applied a statute of limitations to it. This is an old patriarchal way of thinking, and many states are removing SOLs from sexual assault charges.
There are no sex offenders that are “good candidates” for parole.
TRUTH .
Unless the sexual offense was not an offense. The last time I looked, urinating in public was a sexual offense in13 states. So was having consensual sex if one or both were under 18. That’s what caused Georgia to decide that their 20,000 “sex offenders” boiled down to about 1/10 minutes f them actually posing risks to society.
Joel Heinen you are right. There are some people classified as sex offenders who really should not be, while the real ones need serious prison time.
No - there are not. Sex crimes are not crimes done for economic gain, like selling drugs or committing burglaries. That's why sex offenders cut across all social and economic groups.
pilsudski36
Agree
It's one thing for a therapist to want to help a guy out and get him a job and try to get him on the right path. But it is an entirely different thing to let a convicted rapist come live in your home with your wife and children.
Agreed you gotta wonder about that relationship!
That therapist has blood in his hands as well as the parole board that annulled 24 years of his remaining prison sentence
My thoughts exactly! What the....
I’d love to go inform that person if still alive of what he cause with his “good will”
Charles Manson, was a babysitter, as a teenager in California. He had recommendations.
Perhaps if he’d done 30 years of his 30 year sentence helana would be happily married with kids now. You’ve gotta blame the American justice system for this atrocity. What point is there giving someone 30 years and allowing them back into society after 4. Crazy.
Recidivism and leniency are a real problem all around the world unfortunately.
Steve, Not really. I'm Puerto Rican and have seen worse in P.R. You should watch European and Australian episodes, they're not that perfect either.
or happily had the CAREER she dreamed of in radio/journalism!
Be grateful you're not in "progressive" Europe, it's ten times worse here.
I guess the do-good counselor didn't twig on when the half clad body of a raped murdered woman showed up in that field... yeah right. He damn well knew why Curtis was given forty years in the first place! I find it hard to believe that he didn't put two and two together!
4yrs into a 30yr sentence they let him out only for him to kill a young woman in the prime of her life. Very sad. Amazing work by law enforcement.
Permissive judges
Bobby Lawson In this instance, it was the Prison Parole Board that allowed this man with a 30 year sentence, who was offered a place to live and work, an early release.
I wonder if those people on the parole board that released him after only 4 yrs into his 30 year sentence, ever heard/read about his arrest for her murder, and got to feel the guilt knowing they were totally responsible for it?
The justice system is shit. All the cases like this are so sad 😪
Law enforcement doesn’t have the authority to release anyone. The judges that sit on the judicial system make those legal decisions.
What kinda BS is having a statue of limitations on crimes like rape. That is beyond the most ridiculous thing ever!
Welcome to patriarchy
I wonder how many of the investigators who simply would not give up were men. Plenty.
Grow up.
@Karen Soo Unless it is like the rape here, so forthcoming and violent, rape is pretty hard to prove. For much offenses of rape that take place without much physical violence, it is pretty hard to prove. More like he said/she said.
@@FlyAmeliaEarheartAnd yet, even those investigators couldn’t do shit about this rapist because of the statute of limitations. YOU need to grow up. Keep licking those boots babe 👢
@@DD-d6d3welcome to Communism. stop. Kinsey Institute.
he brutally took her young life away. lived 40 years free. disgusting ....
Serving only 4 years of a 30 years previous sentence ? Yeah very discusting ! The devil killed an Angel and enjoy his life 🤮 because society gave him a second chance !
@@MrQuietman87 That was probably his 25th second chance, each time his offenses got more serious. That's the usual slope of violent crime in "progressive" countries.
True, but revenge is best served cold.
She wasn’t the only murder victim of his. That’s for sure.
Definitely!
Yup
If white had served his 30yr sentence like he was supposed to, then that poor girl would still be alive! The justice system failed Helene and her family!
Why do so many states/jurisdictions have a statute of limitations on sexual abuse and the sentencing for the violent crime of rape is too often less than for drug crimes? As a woman, it's hard not to be offended by what that implies.
As a man I'm extremely ashamed that so many other men (especially those in authority), view women in such a way that belittles the effects that severe violent-attacks have on women, along with the long-lasting damage suffered not just by victims, but also by their families & loved ones!
I love that Helene's friends all got together to get the case solved. 💗
It's been a pleasure getting to know them. They really have worked so hard to get justice and it was a pleasure playing a small role in the DNA part. Everyone deserves friends like these. It really showed me how special Helene was.
It is so satisfying to see the meticulous work and perseverance of so many come together to solve this case. Thank you for the careful work you put into these videos.
He basically got away with doing it like its been 40 years the murderer has already lived his life
Pretty much yes sadly.
@A Tangerine Most women don't report being raped. Fair point about the murders with recoverable DNA.
I'm so glad that mother took action after hearing her child mention the body in the field. Some would have just ignored or dismissed it.
Solved cases make my day.
Me too. Can't wait for my day. Been waiting over 2 yrs now.
Same here, don,'t like unsolved cases, unfinished.
@@lizziego4825 especially the missing/vanished people, they just break my heart
Ik me 2
When I was serving in the British army in Belfast in the early '90's, the tail end charlie in the patrol I was leading heard a faint cry from a secured car park. He alerted me to this and together the patrol isolated the scene and found a lady barely, alive and naked from the waist down. She had been battered so severely that one of her eyes had been forced from it's socket. Whilst our team medic attended to the lady, I radioed for an ambulance and police. It bothers me still that I don't know if the lady survived or whether her attacker was ever found. Believe me, I have witnessed some bad shit in my 24 years as a soldier but that winter night still haunts my dreams.
Davy Mckeown - If you remember the date or can even ballpark it somewhat close, try contacting the local (Belfast) PD. They might humor you, you never know. Thats what I would do, because it would slowly drive me nuts, not knowing what happened. I hope youll get your answers and Im rooting for her, I hope she survived and got justice. Other way is to check the local papers from that time, hopefully they are online. Good luck, honey :)
Thank God you guys were there with an eagle eared person and you didn't blow it off! I hope you find answers sir. You all deserve them! Thankyou for saving that lady from that monster. Please be safe.😷💔🙏🤘🏼
if she did pass, she wasn't alone and was surrounded by people who were committed to helping her
Thank you for being one of the good guys!
I do not deserve any credit for what happened that night, the soldier who heard the lady's faint whimper and the one who administered first aid are due credit. I will pass on however your thoughts to them. Thank you for the work you do, closure is important and you help humanity in that regard.
There's no way this guy didn't offend between the murder and his eventual arrest. I hope he's still being looked into re other similar crimes.
I had a bad childhood but I don’t go out and kill that’s not acceptable you just pick yourself up and have a better life make your kids have a better life and teach them right and wrong
THANKYOU that's exactly what I have done also.
yes.
The communists are the ones claiming that people can't help but kill because they are poor and have a bad childhood. It feeds their narrative that all crime is actually class warfare. It's totally bogus, of course.
What about all those dear Jewish people who suffered in WW2
A horror everyday we will never be able to process
Those that did survive went on to live productive lives
What a disgusting excuse of a human being the perpetrator turned out to be. Poor girl.
He should have never gotten out in the first place. 💔 May she rest in peace.
I must say that Mugshot image was spot on from that sketch.
I saw this comment and wanted to see how similar and dang. This is maybe the first time I've seen hypnotism really work. Sure the image did not crack the case, but it is uncanny. I wonder how many other cases hypnotism have been useful in. I've only ever heard be brought up as a novelty in cold cases.
Kind of looks like a young Tim Allen
I was shocked at how good the sketch looked like him!
Hi sexy voice lady!
At 17:15
Genetic genealogy is amazing
Such a waste of life! I wonder if the counselor who sped up the parole process is still alive to know what his actions led to.
And I hope the man never raped the counselor's wife or children. Why would anyone let a convicted rapist live with their family?
I was shocked that his well-meaning counselor invited the rapist to move in with him _and his family._ That was beyond reckless.
Sometimes ppl mean well, but are too soft and are manipulated by evil people. That’s why I really don’t trust too many people after watching these cases so many years now. If it’s a rape and murder case, usually people don’t change and can’t be rehabilitated, so I say throw the book at them and keep them in jail or use the death penalty quickly, because if they get out on the streets they usually reoffend and kill more innocent people. I am thoroughly disgusted at some countries that let these types of criminals out way too early and they end up torturing and taking more lives!! Such injustice really, and how is the community supposed to feel safe?? In our country it varies by state, some are too soft on these criminals as in this case.
Lisa Andrews some people are just too dumb and trusting, I’m sorry but that’s the truth.
@@spiritmatter1553 Not to mention an ethics breach.
I kind of have some shady people on my dad's side of the family. I should submit my dna, find out what my family was really up to back then. 🤔
My grandfather was a foundling, I wonder what I would find out; From what I know they were all working-class (read poor) Londoners, probably a bunch of Ladies of the Night, footpads and muggers. At least we weren't from the Rookeries.
@deborah DeborahR The only issue I can see with that is shady individuals/companies who might look through those records for certain DNA fragments ie insurance companies looking for cancer susceptible fragments to deny coverage, etc.
@deborah DeborahR
I mostly agree to that. I wouldn't have a personal problem with it, the only think that it is an invasion of privacy as far as the child is concerned.
Oh you are too funny girl 👧 lol
Sometimes i wonder how the killer lived with himself after all his doings
Why are there so many laws that protect killers, molesters, etc? It is baffling.
Right??!!
@marcd I doubt Republicans would do anything differently.
This case is a perfect example of the training, tenacity, and intelligence of many law enforcement officers.
Love the ‘solved cases’ videos. It may not be long, but I await the day that a case either gets a major break or gets solved based off the work your channel and others like it do! Thanks HCF! 🏋️♀️🗄🗂’s!!
He served 4 years of a 30 year sentence.
@QTee You're full of horse dung by implying women were worth less in sentencing, etc. Out of every 100 murders 77 are men, and 23 women, yet the vast majority of media cases are regarding women. All the tv programs focus on women cases. For the most part it is men that do the scientific work and legal work to catch the fruitcake killers.
Why is the justice system so lenient with some offenders & so harsh on others? It seems like it is only guesswork. Whatever sentence I hear handed down in any case, I like the end of the sentence to read, no chance of parole. TgT
Another great job, HC. You are so thorough and respectful.
I went to college with Helene. So glad the murderer was finally caught. God Speed Helene.
Well because of much better DNA technology you can solve these cold cases from decades before. But at the same time you can exonerate people they were wrongly convicted in cases many decades before.
Helene looks a bit like Natalie Portman in the turtleneck photograph. Such a sad case and a terrible loss to her community.
I live in Englewood Colorado and it’s so creepy to think I could have seen this guy at the Full House Bar during those years.
What a shame! A beautiful girl killed so senselessly. Also hardworking. How many people would walk 2 miles home in the dark on a cold Colorado winter's evening on a regular basis? That doesn't sound safe anywhere anymore 😑 that said, wonderful and brilliant police work. Kudos to them. God bless her. May she rest in peace🙏
Kudos to the investigators, so much good work. Nice change from the "file it and forget it" at most departments.
This is by far the very most relaxing channel on UA-cam. I love every video & I truly look forward to many more to come.
NO limits on rape - let's change that! ......'I knew there was something too wild hair about that guy I was married to!' said his wife of 30 days, I can imagine!
Boy, he got ugly huh?? Creepy looking dude in the end.....
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Narrator sounds like she's about to burst into tears any second now.
Nice to start my morning off with another video from heavy casefiles 🙌😊😊😃 i love the SOLVED ones the most!!! Thanks so much 💙
Such a beautiful lady with a bright future. I'm glad some justice was found in her case.
Makes me sick that he got away that long. I pray that he had a horrible horrible life ever since🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thankful to see a solved case. So many cases go unsolved. With no answers to the family. 🖤
This is exactly why the murder squad podcast was started. They are one of the more professional true crime podcasts and go over cold cases with the intent to solve them. I can't recommend them enough.
I made it 47 seconds before shutting it off due to the narration. :(
The coddling counselor has blood on his hands.
Narrator: Dump the vocal fry. You sound like you’re out of breath. It’s distracting.
thank you for the work you put into this case - a significant way of honoring her life and the lives of her family members
Sad case for sure but excellent job. One of your best. I appreciate your focus on the victim and the long journey by law enforcement to close this.
Thank you! Excellant job by law enforcement over a long pains taking 40 years. Great job at narration.
She had everything of an Angel , shame on those who gave him a second chance ...
Given the incompetence of law enforcement throughout Colorado, I should know I live here, I'm surprised this case was solved.
She was stunning.
And very sweet, and very loving and very talented as well.
She was, very classy!!
She really was. A tragic loss honestly a year older than me and I cannot imagine the pain her family must have gone through and some never knowing who did this to their daughter
Spent 40 years free as a bird . Then in old age , lives out his golden years on the taxpayers dime. Looks like it worked out pretty good for him. Vote people into political office who will bring back the death penalty !
I thank my Supreme being for the miracle of DNA and genealogical matching
.if my relative did this evil I wouldn't mind them catching through my family tree.Id hand them over myself.
I thank Him, too.
Good ending to a sad story. That guy should never be released from prison, ever.
If he had been allowed to serve his original 30 year sentence instead of being released in 1979 after serving just 4 years, he wouldn't have been able to hurt Helene in 1980. I put the blame firmly on the criminal justice system.
Holt shit that's beyond crazy how accurate of a sketch got drawn from someone that didn't even really remember and had to be put under hypnosis
Absolutely love the back ground music it's perfect as the voice and narration. Very respectful towards the victims and their families! 🖤
I agree! It’s perfect for setting the tone! Not over the top or tragic sounding to me at least 🥰
Same!! 😊
but bad when you find yourself humming it in the shower like I did this evening...
@Werewolf O. London, Esq. is that instrument named after Bo Diddley or vice versa?
And I am thinking the opposite... the video is really good except for the terrible annoying background music. My ears are so tuned into it, I have a hard time hearing the narrator.
such a pretty and intelligent and dedicated young woman -- what a loss.
Always waiting for your videos!! You’re my favorite out of anyone on here. Your voice is perfect, the music is perfect, the dedication and the SHORT intro to your channel. It’s all straight to the point but also telling the story at the same time. I wish you’d post more 😩
Bless Jesse for being so proactive, she was such a big help with this cold case.
40 years later....amazing. I’m so glad that DNA 🧬 is solving so many cases of these horrific, senseless, despicable crimes against innocent members of society. I would like all these scumbag, evil, perverts to get what they’ve got coming to them!!
RIP, Helen and Bless all those involved in bringing her killer to justice.
This day & age make me so happy because MANY that thought they have gotten away with their crimes are getting woken up, caught up, & paying the piper!
After watching this and, of course, seeing the arrest of the Golden State killer after so many years makes me think maybe I should upload my data to GED match.
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@@loulou3472 I did, and I hope it helps catch a murderer.
There is something odd wirh this councilers behavior i just can't believe anyone with a sane mind would do such a thing did he have another motive??? We will never know!
I love your style. Calm and thorough.
The background music is gentle and quiet.
An intriguing channel. Thank you.
There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on rape, abduction, and murder charges. There shouldn't even be parole eligibility FOR rape, abduction, and murder sentences either.
His 3rd cousin Jesse was a great help in solving this crime. Thank you to her too
There should NEVER BE A STATUE OF LIMITATIONS on murder and no inalienable rights for murders
Wow such a lovely young woman. She was clearly loved and a source of hope and inspiration to those who knew her. I'm thorough impressed by the efforts of her HS club who maintained the scholarship and became involved in her cold case.
I will be eternally grateful that I stumbled upon your report during a bout of insomnia. I have been checking in on this case for 40 years. I was in Helene's graduating class at Wheaton and remember her as small, but mighty. She was a kind, gentle and intelligent young woman. The news of her horrific murder devastated our class and the entire Wheaton community. It is a shame that so many of her immediate family were not alive to see her killer caught.
I mean anything is possible so I'm not surprised, but wow!! That hypnosis lead to a SUPER accurate sketch!
Every time I hear a story of DNA solving a brutal crime like this, I feel as if, in addition to the thanks of tenacious police work, we should also thank the tenacious scientists who discovered the structure of DNA in the 1950s: British Rosalind Franklin, and Maurice Wilkins, and American James Watson. Watson and Wilkins went on to win the Nobel Prize. Unfortunately, Ms. Franklin passed away before the award was given.
Yes, absolutely. Our best hope are always scientists and science. I am, needless to say, a fanatical fan of science.
Helene looked so joyful, so healthy, so full,of life.... what a shame. What a shame.
Smart girl, in the prime of her life, .... why do some people have so little respect for life??
The narrator sounds like she’s close to crying or trying to control herself bursting into tears as she relates the tragic story. Maybe she’s very much affected by the story.
Nice to see a case this old be solved.
Luv your vids and appreciate your hard work and respect for victims.
Y thumbs down???
Good presentation,R.I.P Helene
This is so sad and frustrating that it took 40 years to solve. 😥😪🥵 The man who did this cannot be excused for his actions. Yes you can have a really bad childhood, however as an adult he became responsible how he behaved, and the choices he made. Sad all round 😥😪🥵Joanne
Now the murderer gets to enjoy 3 meals a day, free medical care , warm dry bed , underfloor heating, books to read, television in comfortable cell ; when his life would have been far more difficult living on his own, in a cold uninsulated house.
You don't actually know anyone in prison, do you?
I too, listen to Murder Squad Podcast with Paul Holes and Billy Jensen. As a Family Genealogist, I downloaded my DNA to GEDMatch and gave my permission for the use of my DNA by law enforcement. If I can help solve a crime with my DNA especially a missing person or murder case, I feel why not! I have nothing to hide and if someone in my DNA tree have committed a crime, then they are guilty and deserve to be caught. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering the victims family are going through. The faster a criminal is caught the less victims they have. I also feel we worry to much about our privacy through DNA. Let worry about criminals getting away with crime and missing people being found. Let’s give a Jane Doe or a John Doe back their true identity for remaining families to have closure.
It's definitely worth it. Helping Helene's family has been one of the most gratifying experiences.
there shouldn’t be a statute of limitations on sexual assault. Especially now with the advances made in DNA testing. Not even talking about cold cases but even in recent cases the SoL can (and has) expired on many sex assault cases because DNA evidence sits on a shelf in an evidence room due to backlogs.
Girl, sounds like you need a cup of tea to sort your voice out
No murderer deserves to be set free on the streets ever!! And no judge should ever release a crook like that based on "good behavior" or crap like that...
As of July 2024, he is still incarcerated in Colorado. He will not be eligible for parole until 2039 And for his first parole hearing in 2040 , when he will be 83 years old.
I really enjoy that you do 'solved' videos. It seems like so many channels only focus on the unsolved cases or mysteries.
Amazing detective work. Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely love your channel and I've been a fan for ages. Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing all your hard work.
There was never a beginning, and there is no end to crimes against women. Thank you for your hard work.
I love the solved versions of Heavy Casefiles. Thanks for your work. With love, check your audio edit in the first minute of the case.
I love Jensen & Holes! It's really fascinating and informative without the dramatic speculation of other 'talkie' crime podcasts and channels. Plus, Paul Holes' voice is perfect for the medium;)
I love the solved cold cases, but the narrators voice keeps cracking and is a little too squeaky
Genealogy solving cases has been a great use of science.
Murderers and sex offenders like this should be in prison for life with no parole. Don’t let them out
To think of how these victims felt when this happened to them is so awful that it makes you think that they didn't think this would happen to them either.