Thank you very much for putting this up! I’m 33, German, currently living in China (so no connection to Africa whatsoever), but this is HUGELY interesting and gives me a lot of context to continue reading about. It also explains to a certain degree why Africa remains so troubled … incredible what ZA did under Apartheid to other countries, I had no clue. Just wow, and then add the colonialism. TIA.
Mr president are you not ashamed of where you have taken our beautiful Zimbabwe because your greediness corruption and power hunger. Pls jst do an honourable thing, u are outdated we appreciate your those days. Pave way for young blood oldman. Lets move with time.
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zztop3000 I agree and don’t include me please ...I’m South African ..our time will come too I fear .
I am a Mozambican its amazing seeing Beira recovering from that condition I saw in the video & have come the long way. Us Mozambicans as a country we paid a huge price economically, emotionally & physically as country.
It's interesting to see him so young, he seems much more talkative in this interview than in any contemporary one; even though this was made not long after he masterminded Gukurahundi
Probably spoke English very little outside of interviews which probably lessened as the years go by then add age by nearly 40 years and there’s most likely your answer
@@happydays5218 DOn't look far. Rather thank Tribalism for all this. We hate each other as Zimbabweans thats why we vote shona people into power because the criteria of voting and employment is based on tribalism
The economic situation did not improve for Zimbabwe when South Africa achieved majority rule. When Mugabe was conducting a military campaign, destroying infrastructure and disrupting farming, against his own country in the 70s this was the biggest economic problem the country faced. When Mugabe was in charge of the government of the country in the 80s and 90s this was an even greater economic problem. Recession, corruption, unemployment hyperinflation, degradation of public utilities and confiscation of private property was the result.
@@alibabakano2971 There was inequality under colonial rule but government officials seizing commercial farms and displacing farmers and farm workers was a big problem for the country. The Zanu PF government officials corruptly benefitted from taking over the farms (stealing the crops that were ready to harvest and then selling all the trees for firewood and selling off the farm equipment they had stolen) and where poor blacks were allowed a small piece of this land it was reduced to subsistence agriculture. Agricultural production dropped massively after the farm seizures. Tens of thousands of farm workers became destitute and had to move to the cities where there was no employment. The economy shrunk. If you live in Zimbabwe you know that living standards dropped for most Zimbabweans after the farm invasions. The Zimbabwe Commercial Farmers Union presented a plan to the government that would donate land to rural black farmers and the Commercial Farmers would work with them to teach modern farming methods and assist by lending farm machinery and purchasing inputs. Zanu PF rejected this plan and went ahead with the farm invasions. An opportunity lost. There is inequality in all African countries. In fact there is inequality in most countries in the world. Just because the inequality only involves one race does not make this 'inequality' more acceptable than racial inequality. All inequality is unjust.
@@davidstirk4732 in the law of Equity it says "Equity cannot perfect an imperfect gift or stolen gift. Irrespective of what Zim is facing today as a result of sanctions, Mugabe did the right to take away the land from the white colonialist. This world don't belong to you lots. I know you won't see any wrong in what your kins men did.
@@kennybrown3302 How were the people who now occupy the farms chosen? What right do they have over the other 13 million Zimbabweans. Mainly government ministers using corruption to enrich themselves and their families. Is this equity? Why are most Zimbabweans suffering if there is now equity?
@@davidstirk4732 it doesn't matter what they do with the land, life is not all about Economy but dignity of the locals. You can't use good economy as an excuse to deprive people of their land. It was as a result of European arrogance that made Mugabe to go that far, if they had complied the Lancaster agreement, they would have still be there but they never believe that blacks can take back their property. For your information Zimbabwe is getting back to food basket level.
Alright, I'll treat this as a legitimate question instead of white nationalist stupidity. Apartheid South Africa was a settler society constructed on the usage and exploitation of cheap African labor, the Bantustans further reinforced the hope and dream of the Afrikaners to split off and ensure a European hegemony over the country. There was no intention of ever integrating the Black Africans into the wealthy sectors of the economy, instead, the Afrikaners needed cheap labor to enrich their sector of the economy this combined with explicit systems of segregation and intentional efforts to enure few Black Africans were sufficiently educated had created a system of two-tier citizenship and wealth distribution with Whites being wealthy and their communities benefitting from this wealth and Black South Africans being incredibly poor with no prospects for upward mobility. The Post-Apartheid South Africa inherited a country literally built to screw over Black Africans and enrich White South Africans, who by the way still own a disproportionately large amount of wealth and the benefit of greater funding and support for education. In other words, the challenges faced by South Africa today are physically ingrained into the country's very structure and expecting any rapid movement towards greater prosperity amongst its population displays a strong ignorance on your behalf or displays that you have no idea what Apartheid was or how exactly wealth in South Africa was distributed prior to the end of apartheid. Sources; Lemon, Anthony (2009). "Overcoming the Apartheid Legacy in Cape Town Schools." Review. Byrnes, Rita M. (1996). South Africa: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress.
@morton christie Your sheer stupidity and intentional ignorance of the second-class citizenship and low standard of living Black South Africans endured under exploitative colonialist rule is sickening idiots like you are pathetic.
@@GuyShōtō All very true but not quite the whole truth. You have let the current South African government off the hook for terrible rates of corruption and a widespread inability to deliver basic government services.
@@arkuis As for corruption, it's only one element of the larger socio-economic issue facing South Africa, by the mid-1980s, the economy was distorted by government policies designed to bolster the economic and political power of a small minority and to exclude many of South Africa's citizens, selected by race, from significant participation in the nation's wealth. Basic needs were unmet, resulting in hunger, malnutrition, and undereducation, especially in rural areas. Industrial development could not be sustained through domestic resources, and there was stagnation in some areas when foreign capital was reduced in the face of strong international pressures for political reform. Because the mining industry continued to dominate the economy, fluctuations eroded currency values and reduced the country's ability to import goods. At the same time, keeping black wages low, which was crucial to profits in all areas of the economy, perpetuated the discrimination that provoked widespread protests and condemnation. (Herbst, Jeffrey & Mills, Greg (2015). How South Africa Works: And Must Do Better. Pan Macmillan South Africa., Yager, Thomas R. (September 2010). "The Mineral Industry of South Africa" (PDF). US Geological Survey. p. 37.1. Archived from the original (PDF) on 7 April 2012.) So the way South Africa was set up is actually almost entirely responsible for the crippling poverty facing notice how I focused on a particular group. By the early 1990s, the weaknesses and flaws of the racialized economy were increasingly evident despite the country's dazzling mineral wealth. Some segments of the population were poorer and living in more difficult circumstances than many people in far less developed African countries. Moreover, a poorly educated, impoverished majority of the population could not provide the skills and the resources that the country's infrastructure and labor market required. With the end of apartheid in the early 1990s, to confront the serious economic problems caused by that system. The new government in the mid-1990s faced the enormous challenges of improving living standards and managing the country's resources profitably, however considering that South Africa only changed formal economic and social discrimination and did nothing to change the political and economic structures which were effectively designed to benefit a small group and enrich the elite who ruled South Africa. So it's significantly more than corruption, it's the entire State of South Africa was designed and geared toward the disenfranchisement of a majority and designed to benefit a minority, thus governing it post-apartheid faces the difficult challenge of undoing that cycle, you also pretend that Apartheid South Africa wasn't corrupt but this is bullshit, before the end of Apartheid, South Africa's civil service was a pervasive medium for rent-seeking and the preferential treatment of Afrikaners. (Jonathan Hyslop (2005) Political Corruption: Before and After Apartheid, Journal of Southern African Studies, 31:4, 773-789, DOI: 10.1080/03057070500370555). Policies favoring Afrikaner cultural and educational systems, the awarding of government contracts to Afrikaner businesses, and the funding of parastatal Afrikaner organizations was a common phenomenon during the era of Apartheid. (Sergio Fernandez. 2020. Apartheid and the Bureaucracy. Representative Bureaucracy and Performance, pages 23-68.) The building of rural homeland states in the 1980s created ideal projects for rent-seeking with many homeland leaders presiding over massive patronage networks. Thus Corruption was an inheritance from the past government ingrained deeply into the governance of South Africa by its white minority so no corruption isn't something new South Africa it's still debate of the ultimate origin but the pattern is well established in the apartheid-era regime. (Lukasiewicz!, Mariusz (2014). "Still walking to freedom? A historical retrospective of the first 20 years of South African democracy". Current Affairs in Perspectives (4).) It's just racist idiots like you love to racialize South Africa's problems to "Black People Bad!!" when in reality South Africa's issues stem from its founding sin, Settler-Colonialism, and Apartheid. This is, however, part of a larger issue at hand, the institutional woes and political instability of Africa stem primarily from the exploitation minded border drawing and the structures of power left behind by the Europeans. The frontiers and borders in Africa and elsewhere that have been colonized are not only artificial but the primary roots of conflict and political instability today. Ethnic tensions exploited by Western Imperialists were exacerbated by artificial boundaries designed to further ingrain those rivalries thereby making exploitation significantly easier for the West this accompanied by Western states especially during the cold war planting regimes and dictators who were friendly to their interests (i.e. France Afrique or the overthrow of Patrice Lumumba). Exploitation also limited and usually decimated Africa's capacity for serious economic growth (Miles, William F. S. (2014-07-01). Scars of Partition: Postcolonial Legacies in French and British Borderlands. U of Nebraska Press. p. 3., Herbst, Jeffrey (1989). "The creation and maintenance of national boundaries in Africa". International Organization. 43 (4): 673-692., Rodney, Walter (2011-10-01). How Europe Underdeveloped Africa. Black Classic Press. pp. 147-203.) South Africa's issues are ingrained in the way it was created the Afrikaners built an ineffectual state whose sole purpose was to benefit one particular demographic, Whites, the end of apartheid did not see any real dismantling of the structures which characterized the apartheid era other than formalized segregation and the displacement of Native peoples into Bantustans, but the economic effect of apartheid was never dismantled.
This well explains current problems in Zimbabwe and other Frontline states. The foundations are clear. What's sad to see is the level of ignorance that runs riot today.
Mnangagwa now the re-purposed Mugabe. After so much hope for the people of Zim and Mnangagwa's "new dawn", the people of Zimbabwe still remain under political repression, hunger, unemployement and no future all while the ANC govt and the AU remain in shameful silence....
We know who was a better leaders . Nelson left his people staying in plastic huts and now you are saying he is a good leader . How can he be good to you and bad to Africans. He was promoting white interests in South Africa and ignore his own people . And the West is still pushing that propaganda of saying he was good He become good to his enemies and bad to his people. So he was a fool .a good leader should be hated by his enemies. Just like Mugabe, Sadam , Gaddafi, ED ,Ruto . Not that Mandela
This the normal British propaganda of the day. No qualms about airing a mass murderer (Mnangagwa) saying "Mugabe is an honest man." 22.30. 😂😂😭 I nearly wet myself. Amazing that the UK media promoted the Chinese backed communists in Mozambique rather than getting behind Renamo who saw what sort of man Samora Michel was and wanted him out. Well done Thames TV, amazed you have the front to post this stuff on UA-cam. Do you have any clue what Mugabe has done to his own Shona people?
How could anyone support Frelimo or Renamo? They were all so bloodthirsty, massacring and mutilating civilians. Cold war geopolitics before human lives, I guess.
Really?! The emotions ran deep, they just couldn't act on them or declare them openly .... Botswana was technically a protectorate then an independent nation, and had less than a million people... They had no war for independence, nor the capacity to be directly opposed to RSA. The bigger threats came from Tanzania, Zambia, and Malawi through Mozambique and Zimbabwe.... Botswana did support the RSA however struggle for freedom/equality indirectly. It isn't about patience, its just the advantage of being small and insignificant to the fight. Zimbabwe chose a policy not to intervene military since its independence but was being sabotaged nonetheless
Britain clearly made sure southern Africa was set up to fail! That neck of the woods was destined to be paradise in the world! I lived it and so did my parents and grandparents! European people were enjoying the best standard of living in the world, hands down!!! Yet still they remain loyal to their very own gvts and royalty that were so quick to tarnish it all! Every one in Rhodesia and especially south Africa were striving so hard to be white and now a lot of us emigrated to Europe only to be hit hard by the real truth! Human beings.. never cease to amaze me!
@ sadly we will never know how much better. Thats why tribalism and racism is so bad. The best person for the job should be paramount, not what village you come from.
the very rare south african/rhodeisan Indian accent indians are the thrid biggest race in those countries but its not a large enough population for people outside of the country to hear it
Lynda Chalker MP at 18:25: "Any incursion by South Africa into...any of the frontline states is totally unacceptable." Lynda Chalker MP at 18:44: "I'm sincerely hoping that somehow we're going to knock some more sense into the South African government to stop these incursions." It's unacceptable...but all she can do is hope that they stop. I don't think she's using the word "unacceptable" in the right way, from the viewpoint of pragmatic linguistics.
Mozambique didn't do itself any favors at independence by embracing communism, authoritarianism, expropriating Portuguese property, driving out almost all ethnic Portuguese. There would have been no Renamo if Frelimo hadn't mismanagement the country so horribly.
No, it helped Mugabe militarily against Smith and joyfully handed power to Mugabe. Britain assisted zanla and supra from Zambia against the Rhodesians and applied the harshest ever sanctions against Rhodesia.
Ultimate irony: Mnangagwa and Makoni playing victim! It's called Karma!!! Edit: Lest it be misinterpreted - look at you now ... Sad millionaires who have sold your people. KARMA.
The reason there is no meat, fuel or empty hotels, has absolutely FUCK-ALL NOTHING to do with South Africa!! Beira is a PORT!!....There was NOTHING stopping ships from arriving to trade with Mozambique!! The FACTS are that Mozambique produced nothing since the Marxist government took over in 1975!!! And to talk of "blown up oil installations" when Mozambique hosted the terrorists who blew up the Sasol oil refinery in 1981...that is 5 years BEFORE Mozambiquan oil installations were targeted in response to the 1983 Mozambiquan supported bombing of Church St. in Pretoria!!! So who is bombing who!?? The hotels are empty because which tourist wants to visit a Marxist hellhole!!!
Contrary to popular belief, Rhodesia didn't actually have racist laws, but what was called "qualified franchise", in which you had to have a basic education in order to vote. Most blacks did not qualify but the Rhodesian government struggled to educate them, even setting up affirmative action for blacks in universities. This was to prevent people like Mugabe from getting elected by an uneducated, superstitious, tribalist majority who quite frankly hated others of different tribes.
Why can't they ship through Mozambique that's on the sea.....? I don't think this is unbiased because zim can ship via Mozambique or Tanzania. South Africa is not their only option to get to the sea or for rail use....
@@makeitcount2985 Why ! Your are probably sat lonely cheated on with that repugnant chat! You crippled MOc and claim land that u are soon to be chased out lmao
These videos of sa seem to bring the elusive and shy pork colored supremacist out of its lair. Quite the creature, observe their markings below and above
They wanted dependency of Front line states on South Africa, now most of the Africans are flooding SA because they were crippled when they had young leaders that had the energy to run their own countries. It's sad want this apartheid gvt did to the region. I am glad to hear a white man say " we are Africans and here to stay" Let's live in harmony economically and we would never violently grab back our land and mines. Inequality pushes us to reclaim without compensation. Still we rise. I am an African
@@makeitcount2985 We're better of long term. Our great grandchildren we'll gain the benefits (we knew this before the land reform) and they'll thank us for what we did for them. Sanctions won't hold us back forever. They have something that they can call theirs (born land owners). Fantastic!
Zimbabwe and Mozambique deserve what they got for what they did to Rhodesia . Now look at both countries.. once were prosperous countries.. now ruined .. all self inflicted 😁
Thanks this is something good but one thing to ask why do black and whites never think the same are they different in creature no pliz tell me always blaming each other till when guys just tell me
...the very same Emmerson Mnangagwa who _still_ unconvincingly denies all affiliation with genocide-practioneeers _5th Brigade_ lest we forget... Frankly if Emmerson and his ilk told me the grass was green and the sky, blue, I'd _still_ go outside to check. ;)
I didn't know Mnangagwa was ever that fluent and proficient in English.
Even Zuma was very fluent when he wws young.
I am also surprised at the level of eloquence
I think it's part of the decolonisation movement, they no longer feel inclined to speak good English
he aged and forgot all his english
Hatizvidi, ngazviende.....
Very educated Simba Makoni, showing good insights into the then situation.
He's my grandfather's cousin. Still a very cool guy.
@@JamesMakoni VOMIT.
Edit: Look again, don't be stupidly subservient to DNA.
He wud have made a good president
How ironic that a British show criticises South Africa for something Britain had done only 20 years earlier.
Where?
Matt Dosmil yes ironic isn’t it ..typical BBC ..completely one sided
Time moves can't live in the past.
people and nations change with time
@@jdlc903 literally everywehere. Rhodesia, India, Kenya etc
In 1986, Zim used to export steel, beef, maize, cotton.. Worth close to a billion. And that's not even counting tobacco.
Inorder to build a new house you have to destroy the present one
Yeah but if you already have a mansion and all you know to build is a thatch hut, whats the point?
@@hausser0815 Mansion has a bad odour perhaps?
PROSPER MANHANGA it necessarily...if it’s a strong house you can build an extension and make it better
@@hausser0815 it was a mansion for the few whites and inadequate accomodation for the many
Thank you very much for putting this up! I’m 33, German, currently living in China (so no connection to Africa whatsoever), but this is HUGELY interesting and gives me a lot of context to continue reading about. It also explains to a certain degree why Africa remains so troubled … incredible what ZA did under Apartheid to other countries, I had no clue. Just wow, and then add the colonialism. TIA.
Just imagine what a Africans have to endure for survival
1986: Zimbabwe exports $800M
2017: Zimbabwe exports $2B
This is not adjusted for inflation.
Zimbabwe population:
1980: 7 289 000
2010: 13 080 000
800 million via south africa , what about Mozambique , airfreight and other countries
In the same period worldwide exports have grown tenfold and Zimbabwe's only about doubled.
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These were young when they were in office they should give others a chance
Put South Africa First nywe nywe
Ironically Zimbabwe is now dependent on the same South Africa...we have to do something about this
that was engineered long ago
"Our Prime Minister is an honest man" - Emmerson Mnangagwa 😆
kkkkkkk
He’s waiting for the “signal”😂🤣
He's another monster like Mugabe. ZANU = NAZI.
"There is not going to be substantive change in the South Africa crisis for many years to come":..l guess Eddie Cross meant 8 years from 1986 to 1994
very productive Zimbabwe
If only the world could open their eyes
Mr president are you not ashamed of where you have taken our beautiful Zimbabwe because your greediness corruption and power hunger. Pls jst do an honourable thing, u are outdated we appreciate your those days. Pave way for young blood oldman. Lets move with time.
zztop3000 I agree and don’t include me please ...I’m South African ..our time will come too I fear .
very informative, thanks for sharing!
Mozambique is still vital till today
I am a Mozambican its amazing seeing Beira recovering from that condition I saw in the video & have come the long way. Us Mozambicans as a country we paid a huge price economically, emotionally & physically as country.
That’s how the port of Beira is looking now ua-cam.com/video/aUB7Ea5d6m0/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
An early appearance of current President Emmerson Mnangagwa from 5:05.
It's interesting to see him so young, he seems much more talkative in this interview than in any contemporary one; even though this was made not long after he masterminded Gukurahundi
The guy is a dog and been a disaster
"The Prime Minister can be trusted"
Ed rwmuwl nocarw for people
The same thugs hv Been ruling Zim since four decades ago
davison zuka what a wrong information you have
@@lamecknicodemusmawelankomo3052 Zanu pf has been at the helm in zimbabwe since 1980,it's a fact.
@R Hermit Racists were replaced by vipers in zimbabwe.
@@danc8900 Zimbabwe can't feed its self, hakuna hupfu!
@@danc8900 therez no government in zimbabwe, there is a mafia called Zanu pf.
Simba Makoni should have been president
I agree with you
Very fluent and eloquent ED
UA-cam recommendations are at it again...
Mnangagwa spoke good English back then and now he can't speak English . What happened? How is that possible
Probably spoke English very little outside of interviews which probably lessened as the years go by then add age by nearly 40 years and there’s most likely your answer
@@zachhoward9099 well said .
Kkk
Maybe he risked his life to speak his own language in his own country?
@@blessingmasawi3616 maybe
Heartbreaking what has happened to zim
Thank the United States and England for that
@@happydays5218 DOn't look far. Rather thank Tribalism for all this. We hate each other as Zimbabweans thats why we vote shona people into power because the criteria of voting and employment is based on tribalism
We are waiting for a signal.... our prime minister is an honest man.... ED qoutes
Interesting
THE SIGNAL
Zimbabwe has the most starving millionaires in the world. Great job.
You know nothing
So much potential for Zimbabwe visible. Zimbabweans as one is answer!!
Mozambique.......i need to read its history fast.
Excellent video
The economic situation did not improve for Zimbabwe when South Africa achieved majority rule. When Mugabe was conducting a military campaign, destroying infrastructure and disrupting farming, against his own country in the 70s this was the biggest economic problem the country faced. When Mugabe was in charge of the government of the country in the 80s and 90s this was an even greater economic problem. Recession, corruption, unemployment hyperinflation, degradation of public utilities and confiscation of private property was the result.
Rather confiscations of stolen properties and goods and given it back to the rightful owners , we the AFRICANS .
@@alibabakano2971 There was inequality under colonial rule but government officials seizing commercial farms and displacing farmers and farm workers was a big problem for the country. The Zanu PF government officials corruptly benefitted from taking over the farms (stealing the crops that were ready to harvest and then selling all the trees for firewood and selling off the farm equipment they had stolen) and where poor blacks were allowed a small piece of this land it was reduced to subsistence agriculture. Agricultural production dropped massively after the farm seizures. Tens of thousands of farm workers became destitute and had to move to the cities where there was no employment. The economy shrunk. If you live in Zimbabwe you know that living standards dropped for most Zimbabweans after the farm invasions. The Zimbabwe Commercial Farmers Union presented a plan to the government that would donate land to rural black farmers and the Commercial Farmers would work with them to teach modern farming methods and assist by lending farm machinery and purchasing inputs. Zanu PF rejected this plan and went ahead with the farm invasions. An opportunity lost. There is inequality in all African countries. In fact there is inequality in most countries in the world. Just because the inequality only involves one race does not make this 'inequality' more acceptable than racial inequality. All inequality is unjust.
@@davidstirk4732 in the law of Equity it says "Equity cannot perfect an imperfect gift or stolen gift. Irrespective of what Zim is facing today as a result of sanctions, Mugabe did the right to take away the land from the white colonialist. This world don't belong to you lots. I know you won't see any wrong in what your kins men did.
@@kennybrown3302 How were the people who now occupy the farms chosen? What right do they have over the other 13 million Zimbabweans. Mainly government ministers using corruption to enrich themselves and their families. Is this equity? Why are most Zimbabweans suffering if there is now equity?
@@davidstirk4732 it doesn't matter what they do with the land, life is not all about Economy but dignity of the locals. You can't use good economy as an excuse to deprive people of their land. It was as a result of European arrogance that made Mugabe to go that far, if they had complied the Lancaster agreement, they would have still be there but they never believe that blacks can take back their property. For your information Zimbabwe is getting back to food basket level.
1970s -1980s it's was white south aftrica was to blame for poverty but what about know? African unity????
Alright, I'll treat this as a legitimate question instead of white nationalist stupidity. Apartheid South Africa was a settler society constructed on the usage and exploitation of cheap African labor, the Bantustans further reinforced the hope and dream of the Afrikaners to split off and ensure a European hegemony over the country. There was no intention of ever integrating the Black Africans into the wealthy sectors of the economy, instead, the Afrikaners needed cheap labor to enrich their sector of the economy this combined with explicit systems of segregation and intentional efforts to enure few Black Africans were sufficiently educated had created a system of two-tier citizenship and wealth distribution with Whites being wealthy and their communities benefitting from this wealth and Black South Africans being incredibly poor with no prospects for upward mobility. The Post-Apartheid South Africa inherited a country literally built to screw over Black Africans and enrich White South Africans, who by the way still own a disproportionately large amount of wealth and the benefit of greater funding and support for education. In other words, the challenges faced by South Africa today are physically ingrained into the country's very structure and expecting any rapid movement towards greater prosperity amongst its population displays a strong ignorance on your behalf or displays that you have no idea what Apartheid was or how exactly wealth in South Africa was distributed prior to the end of apartheid.
Sources;
Lemon, Anthony (2009). "Overcoming the Apartheid Legacy in Cape Town Schools." Review.
Byrnes, Rita M. (1996). South Africa: A Country Study. Washington: GPO for the Library of Congress.
@morton christie Your sheer stupidity and intentional ignorance of the second-class citizenship and low standard of living Black South Africans endured under exploitative colonialist rule is sickening idiots like you are pathetic.
Hell ignorance prevails
@@GuyShōtō All very true but not quite the whole truth. You have let the current South African government off the hook for terrible rates of corruption and a widespread inability to deliver basic government services.
@@arkuis As for corruption, it's only one element of the larger socio-economic issue facing South Africa, by the mid-1980s, the economy was distorted by government policies designed to bolster the economic and political power of a small minority and to exclude many of South Africa's citizens, selected by race, from significant participation in the nation's wealth. Basic needs were unmet, resulting in hunger, malnutrition, and undereducation, especially in rural areas. Industrial development could not be sustained through domestic resources, and there was stagnation in some areas when foreign capital was reduced in the face of strong international pressures for political reform. Because the mining industry continued to dominate the economy, fluctuations eroded currency values and reduced the country's ability to import goods. At the same time, keeping black wages low, which was crucial to profits in all areas of the economy, perpetuated the discrimination that provoked widespread protests and condemnation. (Herbst, Jeffrey & Mills, Greg (2015). How South Africa Works: And Must Do Better. Pan Macmillan South Africa., Yager, Thomas R. (September 2010). "The Mineral Industry of South Africa" (PDF). US Geological Survey. p. 37.1. Archived from the original (PDF) on 7 April 2012.) So the way South Africa was set up is actually almost entirely responsible for the crippling poverty facing notice how I focused on a particular group. By the early 1990s, the weaknesses and flaws of the racialized economy were increasingly evident despite the country's dazzling mineral wealth. Some segments of the population were poorer and living in more difficult circumstances than many people in far less developed African countries. Moreover, a poorly educated, impoverished majority of the population could not provide the skills and the resources that the country's infrastructure and labor market required. With the end of apartheid in the early 1990s, to confront the serious economic problems caused by that system. The new government in the mid-1990s faced the enormous challenges of improving living standards and managing the country's resources profitably, however considering that South Africa only changed formal economic and social discrimination and did nothing to change the political and economic structures which were effectively designed to benefit a small group and enrich the elite who ruled South Africa. So it's significantly more than corruption, it's the entire State of South Africa was designed and geared toward the disenfranchisement of a majority and designed to benefit a minority, thus governing it post-apartheid faces the difficult challenge of undoing that cycle, you also pretend that Apartheid South Africa wasn't corrupt but this is bullshit, before the end of Apartheid, South Africa's civil service was a pervasive medium for rent-seeking and the preferential treatment of Afrikaners. (Jonathan Hyslop (2005) Political Corruption: Before and After Apartheid, Journal of Southern African Studies, 31:4, 773-789, DOI: 10.1080/03057070500370555). Policies favoring Afrikaner cultural and educational systems, the awarding of government contracts to Afrikaner businesses, and the funding of parastatal Afrikaner organizations was a common phenomenon during the era of Apartheid. (Sergio Fernandez. 2020. Apartheid and the Bureaucracy. Representative Bureaucracy and Performance, pages 23-68.) The building of rural homeland states in the 1980s created ideal projects for rent-seeking with many homeland leaders presiding over massive patronage networks. Thus Corruption was an inheritance from the past government ingrained deeply into the governance of South Africa by its white minority so no corruption isn't something new South Africa it's still debate of the ultimate origin but the pattern is well established in the apartheid-era regime. (Lukasiewicz!, Mariusz (2014). "Still walking to freedom? A historical retrospective of the first 20 years of South African democracy". Current Affairs in Perspectives (4).) It's just racist idiots like you love to racialize South Africa's problems to "Black People Bad!!" when in reality South Africa's issues stem from its founding sin, Settler-Colonialism, and Apartheid. This is, however, part of a larger issue at hand, the institutional woes and political instability of Africa stem primarily from the exploitation minded border drawing and the structures of power left behind by the Europeans. The frontiers and borders in Africa and elsewhere that have been colonized are not only artificial but the primary roots of conflict and political instability today. Ethnic tensions exploited by Western Imperialists were exacerbated by artificial boundaries designed to further ingrain those rivalries thereby making exploitation significantly easier for the West this accompanied by Western states especially during the cold war planting regimes and dictators who were friendly to their interests (i.e. France Afrique or the overthrow of Patrice Lumumba). Exploitation also limited and usually decimated Africa's capacity for serious economic growth (Miles, William F. S. (2014-07-01). Scars of Partition: Postcolonial Legacies in French and British Borderlands. U of Nebraska Press. p. 3., Herbst, Jeffrey (1989). "The creation and maintenance of national boundaries in Africa". International Organization. 43 (4): 673-692., Rodney, Walter (2011-10-01). How Europe Underdeveloped Africa. Black Classic Press. pp. 147-203.) South Africa's issues are ingrained in the way it was created the Afrikaners built an ineffectual state whose sole purpose was to benefit one particular demographic, Whites, the end of apartheid did not see any real dismantling of the structures which characterized the apartheid era other than formalized segregation and the displacement of Native peoples into Bantustans, but the economic effect of apartheid was never dismantled.
"waiting for the signal"😂😂😂😂
Kkkk still today he uses same trick, he waits for signal and bouy kkkk after the signal u will see
This well explains current problems in Zimbabwe and other Frontline states. The foundations are clear. What's sad to see is the level of ignorance that runs riot today.
The scales will balance ⚖️
zztop3000 watch 💐🙏
Ian Smith was right
Yes he was
back when the croc was in favour of sanctions!
Simba Makoni 👌🏾👌🏾
Mnangagwa now the re-purposed Mugabe. After so much hope for the people of Zim and Mnangagwa's "new dawn", the people of Zimbabwe still remain under political repression, hunger, unemployement and no future all while the ANC govt and the AU remain in shameful silence....
Africa had a "Blueprint" for leadership in Nelson Mandela. When will they ever learn?
Nelson Mandela? Lol. Militancy then kowtowing to vapid racists? No thanks
When will they learn that you can't be trusted not to interfere you mean?
Yea trust the Marxist haha. That's always worked well
What did he do , a sellout
We know who was a better leaders . Nelson left his people staying in plastic huts and now you are saying he is a good leader . How can he be good to you and bad to Africans. He was promoting white interests in South Africa and ignore his own people . And the West is still pushing that propaganda of saying he was good
He become good to his enemies and bad to his people. So he was a fool .a good leader should be hated by his enemies. Just like Mugabe, Sadam , Gaddafi, ED ,Ruto . Not that Mandela
It just makes you think, how powerful south africa was. Think of how strong SA and rhodesia could've been without the sanctions...
"We are waiting for the signal"🤣
Edie Cross svichikuzvinzwa
This the normal British propaganda of the day. No qualms about airing a mass murderer (Mnangagwa) saying "Mugabe is an honest man." 22.30.
😂😂😭 I nearly wet myself.
Amazing that the UK media promoted the Chinese backed communists in Mozambique rather than getting behind Renamo who saw what sort of man Samora Michel was and wanted him out.
Well done Thames TV, amazed you have the front to post this stuff on UA-cam. Do you have any clue what Mugabe has done to his own Shona people?
How could anyone support Frelimo or Renamo? They were all so bloodthirsty, massacring and mutilating civilians. Cold war geopolitics before human lives, I guess.
MOST people in the UK have no idea what their government did to the people of Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 Black or white. We were all just collateral damage 💔
My father is one of the troops in this vedio
@14:45 , i hope those are empty : )
African: How is it that Botwsana overcame the tactics of the west?
Botswana: by being patient and never making emotive decisions.
Yeah really. Just do tried and proved methods and work your way up from there!
Botswana, the pearl of Africa. The best functioning country in Africa if you look at the statistics.
Really?! The emotions ran deep, they just couldn't act on them or declare them openly .... Botswana was technically a protectorate then an independent nation, and had less than a million people... They had no war for independence, nor the capacity to be directly opposed to RSA. The bigger threats came from Tanzania, Zambia, and Malawi through Mozambique and Zimbabwe.... Botswana did support the RSA however struggle for freedom/equality indirectly.
It isn't about patience, its just the advantage of being small and insignificant to the fight. Zimbabwe chose a policy not to intervene military since its independence but was being sabotaged nonetheless
Zimbabwe and Mozambique should of removed borders back then, and become one powerful state, but greed of the leaders those days was pathetic
@@niklasmolen4753 Shut up about Botswana functioning lmao with the ladies being your only way out Aid-s on pal
where is emmerson mnangagwa show me timestamp
Zimbabwe has no railway anymore, dead zanu has destroyed everything
Now that's a big fat lie
Now that's a big fat lie
Lies I've seen trains working in Zim
What did Zimbabwe use for light before using candles?.. electricity
Zimbabwe Is FREEEEEE FINALLY...BETTER OURSELVES THAN WITH THEM.. .. GO BLACK MAN GO
From one racist regime to another. From one failure to another. Zimbabwe is and always will be a corrupt hell hole
Britain clearly made sure southern Africa was set up to fail!
That neck of the woods was destined to be paradise in the world! I lived it and so did my parents and grandparents!
European people were enjoying the best standard of living in the world, hands down!!! Yet still they remain loyal to their very own gvts and royalty that were so quick to tarnish it all!
Every one in Rhodesia and especially south Africa were striving so hard to be white and now a lot of us emigrated to Europe only to be hit hard by the real truth!
Human beings.. never cease to amaze me!
13.13 Commercial Transport was taken over in 1999 by one Saviour Kasukwere former minister in Mugabe gov't. It does not exist today, or baley.
Barely
A true thug that one.
The snake Eddie Cross. ED sounded half intelligent. Sad that Simba Makoni was a wasted tallent.
Simba Makoni was a wasted talent
@@Nhamo3 now i see why he campaigned to be president in the early 2000s
Rufambakamwe Mututa Zimbabwe would have been quite different with him in charge I believe
@ sadly we will never know how much better. Thats why tribalism and racism is so bad. The best person for the job should be paramount, not what village you come from.
Jongwe Rachembera well said !
A young Trevor . he looks the same
May Zimbabwe achieve socialism and prosperity for its people.
Lol
They tried socialism... it wasn't very prosperous
Lol socialism brings suffering and death
they did... this your first video ?
Socialism and Prosperity? Bit of an oxymoron
guy at 1:30 has the strangest accent i've ever heard
ireland? rhodesian? i cant guess
the very rare south african/rhodeisan Indian accent indians are the thrid biggest race in those countries but its not a large enough population for people outside of the country to hear it
Chamisa strikes me as a young Simba Makoni
Lynda Chalker MP at 18:25: "Any incursion by South Africa into...any of the frontline states is totally unacceptable."
Lynda Chalker MP at 18:44: "I'm sincerely hoping that somehow we're going to knock some more sense into the South African government to stop these incursions."
It's unacceptable...but all she can do is hope that they stop. I don't think she's using the word "unacceptable" in the right way, from the viewpoint of pragmatic linguistics.
Hakuna mhata ine dhodhi inopfuura iwe Mnangagwa
President Emsin lol
Edie cross is still kicking today
Mozambique didn't do itself any favors at independence by embracing communism, authoritarianism, expropriating Portuguese property, driving out almost all ethnic Portuguese. There would have been no Renamo if Frelimo hadn't mismanagement the country so horribly.
Garwe was waiting Sigi
All they had too do was withdraw support for the ANC
ddnt Britain sanction Zim???
No, it helped Mugabe militarily against Smith and joyfully handed power to Mugabe. Britain assisted zanla and supra from Zambia against the Rhodesians and applied the harshest ever sanctions against Rhodesia.
Here i saw an asset nd a liability , Simba Makoni and ED
british .....news....🤫
3:25 - woww! What evil people
Dziyila to bva nako kule kule balume
Nehanda nyakasikana hona mapfupa ako amuka vasina mabvi vodedera ,vozvimba zvipfuva nekuti vaona kuti munhu mutema waswedera kudya hupfumi hwenyika yake ,Vasina mabvi vobuda furo vachidawo mukaka wenyika , zvino mapfupa evana vakatsakatika mumasango aramba ,voda kuti vhundutsira nekuda kutinanzvisa tsvikiri kuti vaone mapindiro munyika yedu zvakare .Itai henyu mungauraya isu asi vazukuru vedu vachagarika munyika yavo.Hona munhu mutema nyika yako yadzoka ,kwinya mudhebhe utore badza usakurire nyika yako ,ko kuda kudya zvevasina mabvi usina kushanda .Hanzi iwe munhu mutema haukwanise kutonga mhuri yako idi mese varipano vanokurudzira kuti musha yavo inotoda vasina mabvi kuti ipfute hokoyo nemapfupa evana varasika mumasango.
Hapana zvawaitaura iwe bedzi kumuka kuroya
Not zimbabwe...this is RODESIA....
Why does Munangwagwa speak like this now?
Age is making him talk that broken English😢
Ultimate irony: Mnangagwa and Makoni playing victim! It's called Karma!!!
Edit: Lest it be misinterpreted - look at you now ... Sad millionaires who have sold your people. KARMA.
owow ed there
The reason there is no meat, fuel or empty hotels, has absolutely FUCK-ALL NOTHING to do with South Africa!!
Beira is a PORT!!....There was NOTHING stopping ships from arriving to trade with Mozambique!!
The FACTS are that Mozambique produced nothing since the Marxist government took over in 1975!!!
And to talk of "blown up oil installations" when Mozambique hosted the terrorists who blew up the Sasol oil refinery in 1981...that is 5 years BEFORE Mozambiquan oil installations were targeted in response to the 1983 Mozambiquan supported bombing of Church St. in Pretoria!!!
So who is bombing who!??
The hotels are empty because which tourist wants to visit a Marxist hellhole!!!
South africa was bed business man a Mafia kkkk
Contrary to popular belief, Rhodesia didn't actually have racist laws, but what was called "qualified franchise", in which you had to have a basic education in order to vote. Most blacks did not qualify but the Rhodesian government struggled to educate them, even setting up affirmative action for blacks in universities. This was to prevent people like Mugabe from getting elected by an uneducated, superstitious, tribalist majority who quite frankly hated others of different tribes.
"Most blacks did not qualify but the Rhodesian..."
You just described racism 😂😂😂
Says a person who never lived in Rhodesia, man shut up!
@@knomadicstone7348 How is that racist?
@@devinfraserashpole4753 do you know how to read???
@@knomadicstone7348 yes I do. What did he say that is racist? Not letting people vote because they aren’t educated isn’t racist.
Why can't they ship through Mozambique that's on the sea.....? I don't think this is unbiased because zim can ship via Mozambique or Tanzania. South Africa is not their only option to get to the sea or for rail use....
They did but apartheid South Africa blow the rails up
@@tigerkang4629 if the railway was damaged why did they not rebuild it its been more than 20 years
@@makeitcount2985 they were busy fighting in Mozambique 😂😂😂😜embrassing
@@chiyenyumba7135 Africa is such a shit show never has any continent been as much of a disaster as Africa, its embarrassing
@@makeitcount2985 Why ! Your are probably sat lonely cheated on with that repugnant chat! You crippled MOc and claim land that u are soon to be chased out lmao
These videos of sa seem to bring the elusive and shy pork colored supremacist out of its lair. Quite the creature, observe their markings below and above
oh you're not an abject racist, oh not at all
Toro Loco lovely description ..imagine what the pork coloured supremacists say about you
Haha
They wanted dependency of Front line states on South Africa, now most of the Africans are flooding SA because they were crippled when they had young leaders that had the energy to run their own countries. It's sad want this apartheid gvt did to the region. I am glad to hear a white man say " we are Africans and here to stay" Let's live in harmony economically and we would never violently grab back our land and mines. Inequality pushes us to reclaim without compensation.
Still we rise. I am an African
So how is it going in Zim now that you've reclaimed what is apparently yours?
@@rsouthafrican7516 We are just jamming on our land my king. Safe guarding it for an inheritance to our great grandchildren.
@@tic2394 does jamming mean starving
@@makeitcount2985 We're better of long term. Our great grandchildren we'll gain the benefits (we knew this before the land reform) and they'll thank us for what we did for them. Sanctions won't hold us back forever. They have something that they can call theirs (born land owners). Fantastic!
@@JS-xh2lx An update on this?
Garwe 😄 🤣 😂
What a load of rubbish
Zimbabwe and Mozambique deserve what they got for what they did to Rhodesia . Now look at both countries.. once were prosperous countries.. now ruined .. all self inflicted 😁
Mugabe did a good job getting rid of you
My bro because u are Zimbabwean i spare the voltage!! We got sanctioned and will get back Zim is beautiful but tough
@@ecosavingearth5858 What voltage? ZEDTC & ZESA don't generate enough electricity.
Thanks this is something good but one thing to ask why do black and whites never think the same are they different in creature no pliz tell me always blaming each other till when guys just tell me
...the very same Emmerson Mnangagwa who _still_ unconvincingly denies all affiliation with genocide-practioneeers _5th Brigade_ lest we forget...
Frankly if Emmerson and his ilk told me the grass was green and the sky, blue, I'd _still_ go outside to check. ;)
Ed pfee 2023
Duzvi
This documentary is a load of horse sh&t
Joseph Hamlin is talking absolute shit. Show us the evidence you lying f$&king prick
Did they mention Cecil Rhodes Da Beers Lord Escher William t Steads