7 Iconic Antagonists We Never Got To Fight

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    Final Fantasy has featured some pretty awesome antagonists over the years, but not all of them have been fought in epic showdowns. Some ended up disappearing with nothing more than a whimper despite setup seaming so obvious... and it's those antagonists that we're going to run-through today!
    00:00 Introduction
    01:46 Tseng
    04:32 Maester Mika
    06:50 Jihl Naabat
    09:00 Leon
    11:14 Emperor Gestahl
    13:36 Queen Brahne
    16:16 Unknown Final Fantasy XVI Antagonist
    18:41 Outro
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  • @6Kubik
    @6Kubik 10 місяців тому +147

    Fighting Tseng would be a bit sad, since he was helping Zack and Cloud, kept all of Aerith letters for Zack and even was nice to Aerith. Tseng is actually some kind of friend.

    • @zensbu3434
      @zensbu3434 10 місяців тому +33

      I would never classified tseng as antagonist. He was more like anti hero of the tale which OG game made him dirty but driven by motives

    • @Wisekuma
      @Wisekuma 10 місяців тому +26

      Yeah. He only lightly slapped Aeris on the face when kidnapping her. Good guy.

    • @Beeyo176
      @Beeyo176 10 місяців тому +22

      I get the sentiment, but he's still head of the Turks. Y'know, the guys that killed untold amounts of people by dropping a section of the city onto the slums

    • @zensbu3434
      @zensbu3434 10 місяців тому +7

      @@Wisekuma I literally said anti hero lol never said he's good or bad guy, also he had feelings for aerith since they were kids also that's why kidnapping her took so long, for your information mate

    • @6Kubik
      @6Kubik 10 місяців тому +6

      @@Wisekuma they retconned that pretty much. At that point tgey would not know there will be a whole compilation with much more character development

  • @TheAwsomeDemyx
    @TheAwsomeDemyx 10 місяців тому +54

    Fun fact about Jihl Naabat voice actress Paula Tiso was also the voice of Lulu from FF X

  • @cokechang
    @cokechang 10 місяців тому +85

    Not only Tseng, I remembered I was anticipating to have a second round with Rufus after a relatively light but memorable first encounter at the roof of shinra building. I’m glad the remake gave that fight plenty of attention though.

    • @KevinSkye1
      @KevinSkye1 10 місяців тому +13

      Same, I found myself audibly saying "Damn, they made Rufus pretty cool in this game"

    • @kingslayer2999
      @kingslayer2999 10 місяців тому +5

      Rufus is a Snacc

    • @The_Phoenix_Saga
      @The_Phoenix_Saga 10 місяців тому +8

      A little out of place though, seeing as whilst Cloud was technically a failure as a SOLDIER enlistee - he still went through with the procedure and during his stint with his mind maintaining a portion of everything Zack imparted, so he had the strength and power of a SOLDIER First Class.
      Now Rufus, being the son of the president naturally having had a rather luxurious lifestyle - I can't see HOW he would have been much of a competition when SOLDIER were trained and deemed the best. Cloud by default ought to have utterly annihilated him - the only saving Rufus: plot armour.
      Same with Reno, same with Rude. It never made any sense to me.

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +9

      I definitely *need* a second third and even a fourth round with Rufus after how over the 10/10 rooftop amazing boss fight he put up in Remake

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +3

      @@The_Phoenix_Saga the Turks must have something buffing them and Remake Rufus as well
      I can't prove it but you can't convince me otherwise
      as for the Luxurious lifestyle it's pretty evident that Rufus has worked his ass off to polish himself to take down his father a person who relies on their wealth wouldn't have actively tried to overthrow his father like Rufus did a person with those characteristics would have just waited until his father died

  • @aether_eyes
    @aether_eyes 9 місяців тому +8

    Jihl not being a boss before you confront Dysley was a crime. She deserved so much better.

  • @Forever_Zero
    @Forever_Zero 10 місяців тому +13

    This was fixed with the Remake but I always found intriguing how you never get to fight human Sephiroth in the original FF7 (I wouldn't count the very last fight since is all an scripted event)

    • @FelixS.
      @FelixS. 10 місяців тому +11

      Not only that. We don’t even encounter him outside the north crater or flashbacks. Every Sephiroth encounter is an illusion or a Jenova vessel (even the one famous with Aerith).

  • @drunkdrag0n
    @drunkdrag0n 10 місяців тому +29

    A few bosses I would've liked to see take place that ultimately didn't happen -
    Final Fantasy V - versus Xezat/Kelger, as a test to prove your skill
    Final Fantasy VIII - versus Seifer, with Fujin and Raijin at his side
    Final Fantasy XII - versus the Occuria (not Venat)

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому +4

      Forgive me if my memory is failling already, but by the point Fujin and Raijin snap Seifer out of Ultimecia simping he's no longer hostile, is he?
      Then again having a sorta epilogue fight to bookend the game would've been nice.

    • @drunkdrag0n
      @drunkdrag0n 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@JuanLeon-oe6xe Seifer is told by Fujin that she and Raijin can no longer follow him due to how twisted he had become, as thanks to Ultimecia's influence controlling him from behind the scenes he acted as he did.

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому

      @@drunkdrag0n Forgive me for not making clear it was a joke.
      My memory isn't not as good, but it's not _that bad_.

    • @drunkdrag0n
      @drunkdrag0n 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JuanLeon-oe6xe You are forgiven.

    • @LaviniaDeMortalium
      @LaviniaDeMortalium 10 місяців тому +2

      The occuria surprised me too, given how much weight they had in the storyline. But, really, the occuria were always about never getting their hands directly dirty so I guess it makes sense (which was partially why venat was the black sheep). Seifer, Fu and Rai would've been a fun fight, given their individual abilities.

  • @Dzzy123
    @Dzzy123 10 місяців тому +23

    I hated that Jihl Nabaat was killed off in a cutscene. Fighting her would have been great for Sazh's arc. She should have been made a bigger villain in XIII's story.
    I didn't expect to fight Anabella since she had no combat abilities, but they definitely killed her off in an anticlimactic fashion. What are her thoughts once she realizes that the Phoenix didn't choose Clive because he was Ifrit? She betrayed Rosaria because she felt going to Sanbreque and joining the Phoenix with Bahamut would make her stronger politically, but ironically she was raising three Eikons (Phoenix, Ifrit and Shiva) in Rosaria. The story could have been more interesting if this was given more attention. Anabella is power hungry and the game should have made her realize that made the mistake in betraying Rosaria. Also, since she thought Joshua was dead, was she expecting Olivier to awaken as the Phoenix? She's doting on Olivier despite him appearing weaker than Clive and even Joshua at a similar age. XVI didn't handle Anabella as well as it could have.

  • @bardinblue9830
    @bardinblue9830 10 місяців тому +4

    Tseng does seem an odd choice to start with. I mean, yes, he was Rude & Reno's boss... and he instructed Rude and Reno to destroy the pillar holding up the Sector 7 Plate (at President Shinra's order), but unlike Hojo, President Shinra, Heidegger, Scarlet, and Corneo... Although I wouldn't exactly call him a "friend" to Zack, Cloud, and company... he did at times show some signs of having a conscience and moral compass. He didn't seem completely evil, even though his job required him to do things that were undoubtedly evil.

  • @LONEWOLFXPG
    @LONEWOLFXPG 10 місяців тому +9

    Technically you do fight Mika... in the Via Infinito he turns into Concherer at Level 60.

    • @DarkFrozenDepths
      @DarkFrozenDepths 7 місяців тому

      yeah, but it wasn't in the original like Jihl from FF13 so it still counts.

  • @georgehouliaras7239
    @georgehouliaras7239 10 місяців тому +9

    You know. I really wanted to fight Pulse and Lindzei and not as just scythes that Bhuni wielded. Pulse had an insanely great design in the 5 seconds we see him in FF13.

  • @2889798
    @2889798 10 місяців тому +5

    I felt that Bahamut from FFXV should be included. If you played all the DLCs and read the novels, you’ll learned that Bahamut has been the mastermind antagonist that he even manipulated Ardyn so he can get power of the starscourge.
    But as we know, FFXV has been a “beta” during its release with multiple DLC updates that still left the story unfinished.
    Hopefully in the future there’s a FFXV “remake” to resolve this.

    • @majorxadamska
      @majorxadamska 9 місяців тому +1

      You’re right. You technically fight Bahamut as the final boss of the multiplayer mode but that lacks the impact we needed.

  • @N3rd_House
    @N3rd_House 8 місяців тому +2

    You could fight Jihl in the DLC. She was kinda rough, too.

  • @andtails
    @andtails 9 місяців тому +4

    I interpreted Anabella's suicide occurring because she went mad and was no longer able to perceive reality upon the return of Joshua, not as an out because she had nothing else to live for.

  • @stephendavis6267
    @stephendavis6267 10 місяців тому +18

    I'm of two minds on Anabella. Obviously she is a horribly awful person and deserved so much retribution after what she had done, but I also don't feel like Clive or Joshua would have ever taken up arms against her, even after all she had done. They are just too good and decent for that. And Anabella just wasn't combat-focused so it wouldn't have been any sort of a fight anyway.
    I did entertain the idea that she would escape and Ultima would find her and use her as "bait" to get Clive and Co. to show up, and she would be possessed and perhaps transformed into an Akashic boss of sorts, but honestly, I like that we didn't get that. Anabella's villainy was horrific, but despite her cruelty, she wasn't a physical threat and dispatching her would have seemed like a step too far for Clive and Joshua.

    • @bigmediafan
      @bigmediafan Місяць тому

      Ff16 would have had to grow a set for that. The game just swerves any situation that might compromise the leads' morality.

  • @Catsamex
    @Catsamex 10 місяців тому +13

    It would be bittersweet but I would very much enjoy if we get a Tseng boss fight at some point in the next two VIIR games.

    • @jamesshepherd2514
      @jamesshepherd2514 2 місяці тому +1

      Wish granted. Tseng is a boss in Rebirth.

    • @Catsamex
      @Catsamex Місяць тому

      @@jamesshepherd2514 Yes! It was an AMAZING boss fight!

  • @davidpumpkinsjr.5108
    @davidpumpkinsjr.5108 10 місяців тому +7

    As much as the Judges were played up in Final Fantasy XII, it was a little surprising that you never fought Drace or Zargabaath.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought that was disappointing as well. At least you can fight them in Trial Mode in Zodiac Age.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph 9 місяців тому

      I thought that was disappointing as well. At least you can fight them in Trial Mode in Zodiac Age.

    • @joshshrum2764
      @joshshrum2764 3 місяці тому

      Aside from the super boss.

  • @KuyaPixels23
    @KuyaPixels23 10 місяців тому +14

    I hope we’ll be able to fight Tseng in FF7 Rebirth

    • @TheMrGiannisgr
      @TheMrGiannisgr 10 місяців тому +1

      There’s no way we won’t, they definitely want us to fight many bosses. He’s going to be one of the last 3-4 ones imo.

    • @mikeclark7026
      @mikeclark7026 10 місяців тому +2

      Almost guaranteed, he was supposed to be fought in the original, wasn’t he? They will make it for sure this time.

    • @xXMuseFan1996Xx
      @xXMuseFan1996Xx 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@mikeclark7026I never knew he was originally going to be a boss fight in the OG?

    • @mikeclark7026
      @mikeclark7026 10 місяців тому +1

      @@xXMuseFan1996Xx
      Yeah. Apparently that’s the reason why (in the Japanese version) Elena talks about him still being alive. Once again, I am emphasizing I believe I’ve seen this, but I haven’t personally read the Ultimanias and Omegas, I am going off what I have seen others say.

    • @xXMuseFan1996Xx
      @xXMuseFan1996Xx 10 місяців тому +2

      @@mikeclark7026 Wow, they really sidelined his character back then didn't they? Haha
      Well, now that the Remake is going to be three parts and they're expanding on the story, hopefully we'll be able to get that boss fight 😀

  • @hello.krista
    @hello.krista 10 місяців тому +6

    I wasnt too happy that i couldnt deliver a good whooping to Anabella. Ive never wanted to punch a character thru my screen as much as her lol

    • @johnsw224
      @johnsw224 10 місяців тому

      Lol. I felt the same way about Cersei from Game of Thrones. That bitch didn't die the way I wanted either

  • @davidmccormick550
    @davidmccormick550 8 місяців тому +1

    Tseng feels not like a villan, but somebody just trying to work with insane bosses.

  • @venabre
    @venabre 10 місяців тому +8

    We never fight Emperor Varis in FFXIV
    Not really at least
    The one canon battle we have against him happens within Cid's memories of the Bozja incident, and then Memoria Misera is a non-canon battle based on said memories

    • @kurosakikun96
      @kurosakikun96 8 місяців тому

      You could argue we do in the form of the Anima fight in Endwalker, considering the beast is made from Varis's soul

  • @tiagocosmos
    @tiagocosmos 10 місяців тому +14

    I love FFXIII but Jihl Nabaat was such a wasted opportunity.

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +8

      agree even if not a boss at the very least they should have let her live and made her a part of the XIII compilation

    • @xXMuseFan1996Xx
      @xXMuseFan1996Xx 10 місяців тому +8

      I'm so glad somebody else loves FFXIII, it gets so much hate from everybody and it's so undeserved!
      And agreed, I would've loved to have had a Jihl boss fight.

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому +1

      @@xXMuseFan1996Xx The sorta issue with the fight we _did get_ (barring the fact that even the word DLC is controversial, as if it was't that bad already), is that neither Serah nor Noel have any beef with Nabaat, for Sazh it would have been catharsys, by XIII-2 is just fanservice.
      (Jokes about the other kind of fanservice in 3, 2, 1...)
      But it boils down to this, from a XIII fan to others, that game's directing lead to straight up questionable desicions...
      Yes, even I get tired of complaining about the toriyama influence, but it would have been that much of an additional pacing blow to have Disley have her tire the l'cies out, so his plot twist was even harsher psychically?
      That's why he lost, he didn't even understood the battle system of the game he appeared in to begin with!

  • @GooseGumlizzard
    @GooseGumlizzard 10 місяців тому +6

    Tseng was misunderstood

  • @DroWarriorOfLight
    @DroWarriorOfLight 10 місяців тому +6

    I love this type of topics, these fun facts that makes you wonder over different FF games to see if they (all or most of them) share that and start wondering game by game is really fun to do; nice job!

  • @MrTylerWpg
    @MrTylerWpg 10 місяців тому +2

    This is one with a slight asterisk, but Golbez in FF4. Yes we have a fight with him in Dwarf Castle when Rydia returns but it's so short. We never got the epic full party battle with him before Zemus is revealed as the puppet master.

  • @christopherschmidt8343
    @christopherschmidt8343 10 місяців тому +15

    I definitely agree with the last one. Such a missed opportunity to create an all-time great villain.

  • @WillofDD
    @WillofDD 10 місяців тому +1

    16:16 How would a boss battle with [spoilers] work? That'd be like a Zetaflare vs. a goblin from Stillwind.

  • @Darkman9000
    @Darkman9000 9 місяців тому +2

    It is a bit of a shame that Brahne was never fought, not even once. While her comeuppance was executed quite nicely, it would have been interesting to see what kind of fight she could give since so much of her power came from powerful underlings and stolen summons. I can definitely see the fight being played out very emotionally, as Garnet would have likely had a lot of reservations about using any kind of force on her adoptive mother, even if it were just to subdue her and force her off the throne.

  • @Voeluspa45
    @Voeluspa45 3 місяці тому +2

    Tseng was such a pushover in Rebirth. I remember in Remake Reno and Rude were quite a challenge (unless you understood their mechanics ^^). In Rebirth they had the characteristics they had in Advent Children.

  • @ae_sko88
    @ae_sko88 10 місяців тому +12

    Hang on, I don’t remember you getting to fight Elena in the mithril mines. I thought they all just took off after she talked too much about their goals.

    • @stephenhedrick8010
      @stephenhedrick8010 10 місяців тому +12

      You fight Elena when you return to Midgar to stop Hojo.
      Although you can tell them nah I don't want to fight and they'll leave

    • @ae_sko88
      @ae_sko88 10 місяців тому +5

      @@stephenhedrick8010 yeah I know that. But he said you fight her in the mines. You don’t

    • @LemonSandwich
      @LemonSandwich 10 місяців тому +4

      Yeah you don’t fight her in the mines, you speak to them and they bugger off. Midgar underground is her only encounter and it’s her with Rude and Reno

    • @NewYorkDDS
      @NewYorkDDS 10 місяців тому +3

      probably meant you encounter them in the Mithril mines

    • @mrsocko316
      @mrsocko316 10 місяців тому +2

      Well at the very least, it looks like you do fight her in the mines in ff7:rebirth.

  • @itsChanandler
    @itsChanandler 9 місяців тому +3

    Jihl could have been one of the most iconic ff villainess they did her bad

  • @Force-Multiplier
    @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +20

    Momma Rossfield's reveal was too simple and short for how much the game had been building her
    but i honestly never saw her as a boss

    • @mikeozello
      @mikeozello 10 місяців тому +4

      I was really hoping Clive or Joshua would get to have a showdown with her. Like her new son would have not been as strong and Clive easily took care of him. And then their mom tried to get back on their good side, only for them to throw her to the proverbial wolves and like let the orc's take care of her. Revenge is a dish best served cold, and she didn't get the ending she deserved. She deserved so much worse.

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +4

      @@mikeozello I didn't wanted to hurt the kid (unless it had turn out that the kid was a body Ultima was growing for himself or something like that)
      but i definitely agree she deserved worse

    • @GooseGumlizzard
      @GooseGumlizzard 10 місяців тому

      the video calls them antagonists, not bosses

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +3

      @@GooseGumlizzard very true but if she wasn't a boss then we would just be murdering a mean lady?

    • @ivandobias7741
      @ivandobias7741 10 місяців тому

      I agree she deserved a brutal punishment. Though a boss fight nah... She is like a bug that needs to be properly squashed. What amazes me is that Clive and Joshua are trying to reach out to her (shear stupidity). When she committed genocide based on her twisted standards. Sorry but that kind of a character is nonredeemable whatsoever. I thought that Dion would turn her into dust (along with the shitty dad of his and the Olivier/Ultima puppet) when in his Bahamut form, That would be epic, I mean the potential of the game is wasted as the story goes. The Dark Clive side was a waste too. The producer could have made something like the Dark version of the Prince of Persia where he would torment Clive for the entirety of the story. Wasted potential..just like FFXV story. Rating story C or D. Below average :)
      Square Enix if you are reading this take a pause from FF series for a year and remaster Vagrant Story that game knows how a story should be.
      Or better make a remake and plan a sequel.

  • @angelsonic999
    @angelsonic999 2 місяці тому +1

    They realized this about Tseng and threw us a fight in Rebirth

  • @TheTigerfan99
    @TheTigerfan99 10 місяців тому +3

    Really appreciate the spoiler warning for FFXVI! I have it but haven't had a chance to finish it yet, so being able to turn it off before anything got spoiled was nice. Plan on coming back here after I finish the game.

  • @3Storms
    @3Storms 10 місяців тому +19

    I never took Tseng as a villian, and instead as someone who's just trying to do his job. Aeris even said something about how he was the one who was nice to her when she finds him at the entrance of the black pyramid. However we don't get to fight Don Corneo even though probably everyone wanted to. He has his pet take the battle for him.

    • @djmeagaaim17
      @djmeagaaim17 9 місяців тому

      You dont Scarlet and Heddiger directly either

    • @3Storms
      @3Storms 9 місяців тому +3

      @@djmeagaaim17 Tifa slap-fights Scarlet on the barrel of the Junon cannon on disc 2. You fight both Scarlet and Heidegger inside of Scarlet's mecha "Proud Clod" where after beating it, it crawls back, explodes, and presumably kills the both of them.

    • @FromBeyondTheGrave1
      @FromBeyondTheGrave1 8 місяців тому +2

      All the Turks are just doing their jobs, to the point once shits hitting the fan you talk to them and they’re like you know what this isn’t worth it

  • @tannerorrock1916
    @tannerorrock1916 10 місяців тому +2

    I kinda wish Anabella served more of a purpose in story like she had the workings of a great mastermind and a really compelling villain like I kinda wish she had more of an impact on the story itself, I also kinda wish that she wasn't regulated to the standard Cersei Lannister villain archetype like i know that it makes sense for the world but when it comes to female antagonists in this game they tend to feel lackluster I kinda feel the same way about Benedikta she was also very underutilized in the whole of the story but she had a little more of an impact than Anabella

  • @obsidianblack7249
    @obsidianblack7249 10 місяців тому +1

    If you guys do a list of satisfying villain ends I recommend Galdes from Ring of Fate. He got a ending reminiscent of Diavolo from part 5 of Jojo.

  • @wiseguy240Winston
    @wiseguy240Winston 10 місяців тому +4

    The last two aren't fighters in any sense so i can understand them not being boss fights.

  • @xXMuseFan1996Xx
    @xXMuseFan1996Xx 10 місяців тому +3

    I hope we get a Tseng boss fight in Rebirth!

  • @djmike679
    @djmike679 10 місяців тому

    it would have been nice to strike and cross blades with many of the Zodiac Braves more than once, from the Tactics Ps1 game. Especially being able to maybe finish off a couple of key bosses before they got to disappear or power up. Im looking at you Wiegraf. But its understandable that we fought who we did in those forms.
    Also getting to fight Jhect in non-summon form! That wouldve been a really cool fight, and being on the recieving end of the Jhect Shot! but whatever ya know. His summon fight with Otherworld blasting was cool too i guess.

  • @GilMeansJoy
    @GilMeansJoy 10 місяців тому +3

    Some of these were great antagonists, but I don't think players ever expected to fight characters like Mika or Brahme given that they never demonstrated any kind of combat prowess. They always had lackeys.

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому +1

      I mean, you could probably justify beating up someone like Don Corneo, but Queen Brahne? Gender stereotypes aside it would have felt like bullying, sorta...
      (And as mentioned, lackeys and summons).

    • @GilMeansJoy
      @GilMeansJoy 10 місяців тому

      @@JuanLeon-oe6xe You can justify beating up any of them because they are bad people who did bad things. But just because you'd want to beat them up doesn't mean they look like a likely opponent.

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому +1

      @@GilMeansJoy Oh, don't get me wrong, they _did_ deserve meeting Star Platinum, but Japan is the kind of country that still pulls bullshit like this based on outdated ideas about gender (cough cough PERSONA cough).
      There's also the fact said fights would not be a challenge, an unforgivable sin for... let's just call them the "special" side of this fandom...

  • @jonathanjohnston1064
    @jonathanjohnston1064 10 місяців тому +2

    All of these are accurate. I have always said that Kefka was the best villain of FF because his motivation was he just wanted to see people suffer. I think that Clive's mother may be worse because she based her life on the idea of creating and controlling perfection. When she lost what she thought was perfection, she literally couldn't see her other sons begging to be able to forgive her and move on. The only decision that seemed rational to her was to kill herself. Having known suicidal people over the years, I have seen this happen for real. Even with proof that a person matters, they choose to give up. Perhaps the most broken and human villain in the franchise. As much as I hated her character, I understood her.

  • @jeffhe1701
    @jeffhe1701 8 місяців тому +1

    lol mika was like oh shit yall killed yunalesca. welp im out peace

  • @Beeyo176
    @Beeyo176 10 місяців тому

    5:07 Thank you for that.

  • @Edowin-jz2sj
    @Edowin-jz2sj 10 місяців тому +2

    I would add Nag'molada from FFXI to this list - I was genuinely disappointed that we didn't get to pummel this guy.

    • @dragoncurieux
      @dragoncurieux 10 місяців тому +1

      I agree.
      I felt especially with the tie in quest after RotZ and CoP where you right Kamlanaut and Ealdnarche again, it would have been a great opportunity to actually fight Nagmolada too. Sadly it wasn't meant to be...

  • @rebaxbayushi577
    @rebaxbayushi577 10 місяців тому +4

    I think you made a mistake in your research this time. In FFVI, Kefka never struck Gestahl, it was the waring triad going berserk. Kefka litteraly ask them "Where are you aiming?" during the scene showing he wasn't part of the attack, just a bystander taking joy in the whole thing.

    • @atlasvista
      @atlasvista 10 місяців тому +1

      Kefka kicks Gestahl off the continent.

    • @rebaxbayushi577
      @rebaxbayushi577 10 місяців тому +1

      @@atlasvista But he was already dead at that time. The video implied Kefka was the one who killed him, which is absolutely false. But just to make it clearer what I meant, he never struck Gesthal while he was alive.
      There is a theory saying Gesthal deathwas the last straw before Kefka's mind completely broke down, one I kind of believe in. It says that seeing him get struck down by the magic's god like that gave him the impression the triad welcomed him as one of them, which finaly shed him of the last bit of humanity he still had left, as little as it was. He might have hated Gesthal at the end, but he still had too much regard toward him to do anything against him, when he lost him, that was the end of his remaining sanity.

    • @atlasvista
      @atlasvista 10 місяців тому

      I guess the video is saying Kefka inadvertently struck him down. He cause the triad to go berserk, so in a way, he did struck him.

    • @rebaxbayushi577
      @rebaxbayushi577 10 місяців тому +1

      @@atlasvista But that would be false too. What made the triad go berserk was the aggresivity around them, not just Kefka. Kefka only interacted with them after Gesthal was dead. It is true he interacted with the field between them before that, but the triad were already aggresive by that time.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 10 місяців тому

      ​@@rebaxbayushi577Gestahl was alive a moment before Kefka threw him off so yeah, Kefka killed him

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 10 місяців тому +1

    Will we get a Tseng fight in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth?

  • @zephon6745
    @zephon6745 10 місяців тому +2

    Mika appears in FFX-2 before transforming into Concherer.

    • @eduardlaser419
      @eduardlaser419 8 місяців тому

      But that happens in FFX-2 Not FFX ^^

  • @playboimykey7269
    @playboimykey7269 5 місяців тому +1

    I hope advent children is a dlc in the final game of the trilogy

  • @laco403
    @laco403 3 місяці тому +1

    You get to fight Mika's fiend in FFX-2, though.

  • @choosersnotbeggars
    @choosersnotbeggars 10 місяців тому +2

    I've been watching FFU recently. What does TPR stand for? I enjoy the content on here and have been curious

    • @thisdadsplatinumjourney
      @thisdadsplatinumjourney 10 місяців тому +2

      TPR is the artist we use for the music. You should definitely check him out 👍

  • @questcore636
    @questcore636 8 місяців тому +1

    tseng wasn't really a villain, he just followed orders, but protected aeris behind the scenes, i mean, who you think controlled cait sith?

  • @KyleTaylorDesigns
    @KyleTaylorDesigns 10 місяців тому +6

    I'd like to make a case for FFXII and FFXV with Venat and Imperial Emperor respectfully. In FFXIII it is shown that most of the fiendish events beyond conquest done by Arcadian empire in their war against the Rozarrian empire, is orcastrated from behind the scenes by Venat, a race of divine-like beings called the Occuria. For a series like FF, you'd think you'd get the chance to go toe to toe with the great evil in the climax of the story like so many other titles before it, but no Venat acts like deus machenia so you can have a round three with Vayne by combining to create the boss The Undying. Afterwards there's no mention of him or nothing else to flesh out his character or involvement in the story. Similar in that vain, in FFXV the Niflheim empire has been a constant presence throughout the game as it's primary antagonist, with emperor Iedolas being directly responsible for the death of king Regis (the hero's father) at the beginning of the game, you'd think you'd get some kind of retribution when you finally make it to the imperial capital, but no, the game jumps 10 years into the future for the end game (for contrived reasons) and it's revealed that the emperor in that time has been transformed into a demon enemy to which you do have an annoying encounter with, it's not revealed until afterwards that even was the Iedolas and the emotional impact isn't there.

    • @drunkdrag0n
      @drunkdrag0n 10 місяців тому +3

      You are wrong about Venat.
      The Occuria he was apart of were indeed manipulating things from behind the scenes, but he was stated to have gone Rogue, breaking away from the others in an attempt to "break" the control the others had over Ivalice (which ultimately worked)
      The boss fight that was definitely missed was against the Occuria, not Venat himself.

    • @djmeagaaim17
      @djmeagaaim17 9 місяців тому +1

      I thought both Venat and the Occuria should have been bosses towards the end of the game. The Occuria right before Gabranth and Doctor Cid shows up and Venat during the final boss rush. I also thought that Drace (maybe as a zombie pumped with neciete much like Bergen was), and the other Judge should have been proper bosses in the main story. I also thought you should have been able to go to the Rozarrian empire at some point.
      I always thought it would have been interesting to for a fight against the aracdian senate

  • @waynepayne864
    @waynepayne864 3 місяці тому +1

    if i ever get my hands on maester mike bro if i ever get my hands on MIKA MIKE bro OMG he gonna get it

  • @AncestorEmpireGaming
    @AncestorEmpireGaming 10 місяців тому

    #1:
    In my fan fiction, I sent her to the Cenobites from the Hellraiser universe.
    Oh dear Anabella, they’ll tear your soul apart…. *Pinehead voice sold separately*

  • @EJ_Crough
    @EJ_Crough 9 місяців тому +1

    Holy heck! I always thought emperor G from ffvi was a dog man

  • @omaruck5mx
    @omaruck5mx Місяць тому

    In Rebirth you finally fight against Tseng

  • @samus6256
    @samus6256 9 місяців тому

    @2:48 Technically he didn't kidnap Aerith as she had to go freely of her own free will.

  • @katiec6289
    @katiec6289 5 місяців тому

    Oh yeah I wish Annabella was a boss fight. Even if it was a one shot kill battle, it would have been so satisfying lol.

  • @ryuixyui
    @ryuixyui 10 місяців тому +4

    No Delita?

    • @Force-Multiplier
      @Force-Multiplier 10 місяців тому +3

      Omg just that name makes my blood boil

    • @JuanLeon-oe6xe
      @JuanLeon-oe6xe 10 місяців тому

      Kinda the curse of being a non-numbered title, Tacttics and Type-0 tend to fall to the side _too often_.

  • @AresSG
    @AresSG 10 місяців тому

    Oh man that's weird, I could have sworn I did fight Tseng but upon rethinking it extensively, yeah I didn't. It's been years but I remember everything about FF 7 so I don't know how I could make that mistake.

  • @krzysztofcyran3593
    @krzysztofcyran3593 3 місяці тому +1

    Well Tseng is no longer actual.

  • @MrAgilla
    @MrAgilla 3 місяці тому +1

    Lol you do fight tsun in ff7 rebirth

  • @ArcadeTheatre
    @ArcadeTheatre 10 місяців тому

    Tseng was a real one.

  • @kidkytes6233
    @kidkytes6233 10 місяців тому +1

    You have an error in your list. You state that you fight Elena in the Mythril Mines in FF7 but you don’t fight anyone there, you run into the Turks, talk with them and they leave. You don’t fight Elena until the raid on Midgar in disc 2 and that’s only if you choose to.

  • @adamski69er
    @adamski69er 10 місяців тому

    Even though Maester Kinoc got his just deserts, i would have loved a Kinoc V Auron fight

  • @MisterCask
    @MisterCask 9 місяців тому +3

    >pronounces Cait Sith right
    >says "Tye-Duss"

  • @54raynor
    @54raynor 9 місяців тому +1

    Brahme, Gestahl, and Mika aren’t characters that most FF fans expected to fight. While they had considerable forces at their command, there wasn’t anything about them that suggested they would be a formidable adversary in combat. Additionally, all three games made it very clear that powerful underlings were either manipulating them or would betray them before long.
    With that said, the pick for FF6 should have been General Leo. We are led to believe he is quite powerful, and that the fight with him would be both difficult and one of reluctance on both sides since the Returners had great respect for the general. FFVI could have very easily had him be a thorn for the party during the world of balance, much like Beatrix would be during the first half of FFIX.

    • @djmeagaaim17
      @djmeagaaim17 9 місяців тому

      I still would have like to have those fights though

  • @unclemonkey1977
    @unclemonkey1977 10 місяців тому

    Not a FF game, but I would have loved to get a crack at Krelian from Xenogears. Dude committed centuries worth of atrocities and at the end just walked away.

  • @jamesgabele4221
    @jamesgabele4221 10 місяців тому +1

    Delita and Zemus are missing.

  • @Forriedude
    @Forriedude 10 місяців тому +2

    I felt cheated by number 7's end. Literally any other end would've been fantastic.

    • @notmousse
      @notmousse 10 місяців тому +1

      Parrying the apocalypse was kinda neat, but by that point they neutered Spikey boy and likely didn't want to have the resolution include him slurping soup in a mental ward somewhere as the conclusion.

  • @barbarachrisman8574
    @barbarachrisman8574 2 місяці тому

    I hated Annabella right away. However I hated her more when she told Clive "It should have been you." Proving she only loved Joshua because he was the Phoenix. At least that's how I see the meaning of that line.

  • @isenokami7810
    @isenokami7810 7 місяців тому

    Honestly, I don’t mind not fighting Mika. Sure, he’s an unsent, but he’s still an old man, I don’t think he’d put up that good of a fight. Breaking his lies and false hope so that he willingly accepted death seemed much more satisfying to me, even funny the first time around.

  • @neoshadowdukeofgames8223
    @neoshadowdukeofgames8223 10 місяців тому

    I was wondering who you would pick from FF7 as that game had so many villains to choose from. I'm not sure if any FF game had more villains.

  • @60wwediva
    @60wwediva 10 місяців тому

    I always thought we would fight Mika and its sad we didn’t. They made him a punk and coward just to let him be an optional fight in X-2

  • @lunatic447
    @lunatic447 9 місяців тому

    Noah Gabranth and technically varis from 14 for me

  • @virtualbunksie5117
    @virtualbunksie5117 10 місяців тому

    We never fought elena in the mythril mines

  • @jeremyhall2727
    @jeremyhall2727 10 місяців тому

    I forgot i didn't fought some if them 😂

  • @Holderhek
    @Holderhek 2 місяці тому +1

    kate sith

  • @AllnWlkr6029
    @AllnWlkr6029 10 місяців тому

    No Occuria?

  • @voidgods
    @voidgods 8 місяців тому

    While not "iconic", I wish we could have fought all of the FF12 Judges (even if some of them weren't evil), and maybe got their weapons as loot, that would have been nice

  • @rockkandyplay5692
    @rockkandyplay5692 2 місяці тому

    Tseng isn't a villian or an antagonist. He just has a different path than the main group. He had been Aerith's protecter for over a decade, helped Zack and Cloud, Tseng even, on several occasions, told the main group that they weren't enemies, and that the Turks didn't want a fight with them...The turks have never been the enemy...ever

  • @LaviniaDeMortalium
    @LaviniaDeMortalium 10 місяців тому

    Personally? I don't want to fight Tseng. If Reno's his second in command, I don't wanna know what Tseng's capable of. He scares me.

  • @ZackeryGee
    @ZackeryGee 10 місяців тому

    Thank you for the spoiler warning! As badly as i want to, i still havent gotten FFXVI. Im avoiding watching playthroughs and want to go in fresh. (Well... i did play the demo... so.. after that point at least.) Cheers!

  • @mreclectic700
    @mreclectic700 10 місяців тому

    9 likes and almost 12k views...am I seeing things 👀

  • @SolstaceWinters
    @SolstaceWinters 9 місяців тому

    Speaking for the Final Fantasy Tactics crowd, for as much conniving and political shit he pulls, love him or hate him... it'd be satisfying to deck Delita in the face. The man outright tells you TO YOU FACE that he's betraying EVERYONE to get what he wants, and Ramza's like "Oh, neat, I'm gonna go off to tell Orlandeau that shit's going down. Kay bye bestie." And one of his associates rolls up and says, "You're betraying him too. Wow." And he retorts with, "Shuuuuut uuuup, you're not my mom. I can betray my best friend for personal gain if I want to."
    Don't get me wrong, I kinda love Delita. But he's SUCH a bastard, it'd be kinda cathartic to punch him. He needs a good monk-punch to the face.

  • @aspieatheist6040
    @aspieatheist6040 10 місяців тому

    Zemus?

  • @raphyangel9828
    @raphyangel9828 6 місяців тому

    Tbh, although kicking Brahn's arse would've been cool, I don't think she would've put up much of a fight on her own. All of her "power" came from her position as Queen. If her subjects had decided not to obey her, & her so-called "jesters" hadn't extracted those Eidolons, the only weapon she'd have is how completely hideous she looks...to the point I was freaked out by her, as a kid, thinking, "I'm so glad she's not My mother!" ~shudders~
    I laughed when she was nicknamed in the game as "Elephant Lady" cuz she really does look like a greenish elephant, minus the trunk & ears...

  • @Hua_2638
    @Hua_2638 10 місяців тому

    How about venaat from FFXII

  • @Andrrick1
    @Andrrick1 10 місяців тому

    you somewhat fight Mika in 10-2

  • @virtualbunksie5117
    @virtualbunksie5117 10 місяців тому

    Delita?

  • @randylopez3110
    @randylopez3110 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the spoiler warning! I immediately stopped the video, lol 😂

  • @hugbuzzard
    @hugbuzzard 10 місяців тому +1

    Whoa!

  • @stethespaniard2
    @stethespaniard2 10 місяців тому

    Except you did fight two of them. Not in the original game but when you say “never” it should be never

  • @LarryJ2022
    @LarryJ2022 10 місяців тому

    Oh I didn't see this was a Final Fantasy channel. I came expecting to see Iimperius from Diablo 3. Man I wanted to beat the crap out of him.

  • @josepartida1711
    @josepartida1711 10 місяців тому

    Mika?
    I would’ve rather had fought Kinoc
    Like a one one one with Auron

  • @TheTsunaru
    @TheTsunaru 8 місяців тому

    Here we are, pronouncing Mommy Baabat wrong.

  • @neoyaku
    @neoyaku 9 місяців тому

    LAN DI

  • @chrisdillon8376
    @chrisdillon8376 10 місяців тому

    I have a few issues with FFXVI, but story and characters aren't any of them. Annabella is a better Cersei and I wish we had gotten even more with her.

  • @lopirobinson1991
    @lopirobinson1991 10 місяців тому

    Fighting Annabella?? Lol, she really can't fight though. She's not a bearer. She would be no challenge, save for swinging a knife recklessly and sloppily lol

  • @SussyPrime
    @SussyPrime 10 місяців тому +1

    You forgot Claude Schmidt for FF7, He literally killed Cloud's best friend.