Mormon Temple Tour | I FILMED EVERY ROOM EXCEPT ONE
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- I filmed every room inside a mormon temple before it was dedicated! except one room.
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9:00 I'll tell you exactly what's in the initiatory room: it's a small room divided into 4 squares by thin curtains. If quarter #1 is where you walk into, quarter #2 has a chair and a small faucet; here, the person is washed symbolically, reminiscent of Aaron and his sons bring washed in the book of Exodus. Quarter #3 has a chair and a small gold-colored horn with oil where the person is anointed on their head. Quarter #4 is a standing space. If you're doing your own initiatory work, this is where you receive the new name; if it's proxy work, that is done at a later space.
And that's it! You aren't missing anything. It should be noted that being washed, anointed and given a new name are common in situations of royalty. For reference, go back and watch the coronation of king Charles.
I actually really appreciate this explanation thank you 🙏 I couldn’t seem to get strait answers from anyone about this room
@WhenIWasMormon no problem! The temple is actually really beautiful, and, whether you believe in the faith or not, holds a lot of deep and sacred meaning. I meant what I said before: if you have any further questions, I'm happy to help with a deeper dive into it.
Mormons aren't royalty tho
@DannyAGray do you have alot of time on your hands. Congratulations on being a knight for the church. I'm sure God appreciates it so much. 😂
Yeah, @newnamenoah has given us a video recording of the "Washing and anointing" where a creapy man rubs your body parts down with olive oil.
Keep doing what you are doing! I have no idea how you only have 900 followers. I hope your channel blows up!
Thank you!! I hope so too I just wanna help people find themselves and help them leave this toxic environment they’ve been in. Thank you for your support!
Fucking love the effort you put into this. Excited to see any and all future content from you
I’m still in high school and a bunch of my friends go to the temple on “Temple Wednesdays” I think it’s absurd and a waste of time but oh well I can’t stop them and stay friends with them unfortunately
You don't really believe in life after death or what?
@@Livradnope I don’t believe in life after death. As much as I would love to see my dad and grandparents again, I can’t believe in it. I don’t want to live with my mind forever. I have OCD and honestly living forever just sounds like Hell to me. I would rather fade from existence than have to live with OCD forever
@@AdamShaw-dt6hv The pains and trials we go through in this life and restricted to this mortal life only. I think you will be pleasantly surprised when you get to hang out with your loved ones again without having your OCD restricting you any more. We have Jesus Christ to thank for that... when we die we are stuck without our bodies for a time, but we will all be resurrected at some point with a better type of body for our spirits to dwell in.
@@Livrad although I don’t agree with you from the eternal view, I do really appreciate your comment. Most people would’ve responded in a defensive manner but yours was really polite and I appreciate that. I would love to see my loved ones again without the restraints of OCD. That sounds amazing! I don’t logically think I ever will but it makes me happy to think about it :) you seem like a really pleasant person. Really religious, but very pleasant :)
@@AdamShaw-dt6hv Thanks Adam. You seem pleasant too. It's so funny, I don't consider myself religious, but I suppose I am. Most of my friends are not members, I don't ever try to push it on them, but once they start asking me questions, it's hard to shut me up because I love talking about it so much. I also consider myself extremely logical.... If anything, if I was to give myself some kind of ranking of spirituality, I would score myself super low. I can honestly say that logic and math is what made me believe in the Book of Mormon before I received any kind of spiritual confirmation. I don't think someone needs to be extremely logical or educated to gain an appreciation of the book, but you definitely don't need to go off of "faith alone" due to the incredible amount of evidence that support it's veracity. It just contains way too much information that would have been absolutely impossible for Joseph Smith to have known when he published the book in 1830. Sorry man, don't get me started ;-)
You keep talking about raising your arm to the square, but you are overlooking what you do with the other hand, which is remnants of the now eliminated very dark parts of the temple endowment, and that is holding your other hand in cupping shape. This was to catch your blood and internal organs as you sacrificed yourself if you were to violate or reveal the covenants. Yep, the temple is actually quite dark.
EDIT - 8:50 - The change was made in April 1990. My best friend went through the temple in March 1990 and he got the old school sacrificing yourself endowment session. I went through in August 1990, and I got the newer, less violent version.
Why wouldn't they proxy-baptise living people as well. Oh yeah, we can be extorted tithes.
"you're becoming pornography to some of the men who see you" God, I can't believe how much I've believed and given my life to this cult. And I'm PIMO now because I only started pushing my questioning more last year, thanks to my therapist. Thanks for your content. Keep it up.
Ya know, it's totally OK to ask questions to faithful members and get some decent answers.... it couldn't hurt to try.
@@DannyAGray ask questions about what though? The quote I just referred to that this video plays at the end is from Dallen H Oaks, that talk is one of many reasons I will never trust a word from this church again. How absurd his "prophetic counsel" to say a woman creates pornography by lets say showing her shoulders! If you can't understand the harm of that, you're not worth my time.
@pneuma_23-rb4dx which do you think is better, arguing that one ought to be dressed however they want and as "free" as they want, or that every person love and respect their fellow persons enough to present themselves modestly?
To ignore the problems presented by our hyper-sexualized society in favor of one's own selfish styles - and pretend like we all don't have a part to play in helping each other not struggle - is dismissive and evil. To pretend that BOTH sexes are unaware of or not responsible for the thoughts they invoke in others with regard to their appearance is just adding to the problem; and if you were actually intellectually honest, you would admit it. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if you were so self-centered that you couldn't see past your own nose.
@pneuma_23-rb4dx maybe a good question you personally could start with is, "instead of taking offense, what can I positively gain from what is being said? What am I not hearing because I'm being too critical and not objective?"
@@DannyAGray The "hyper-sexualized" society is a problem that religiosity has created. When you get down to the base of it all, skin is just skin. Somebody showing slightly more of their shoulder than another has no bearing on their worthiness or that of those around them. Instead, I would question the organization that is participating in sexual abuse cover-ups, including payments of $100k hush money to silence the victims while they protect the abusers (look up "Associated Press Mormons" and you will find some revealing factual reporting). It is very interesting that the organizations that teach purity culture the strongest are the ones that tend to have the highest ratio of abusers and rapists.
Well done
Thank you 🙏
Where was this one located? I went on a tour of one in North Carolina 20 years ago and was struck by how cheap everything felt and looked. The baptism for the dead pool was a cheapish hot tub, even with those tubular metal railings like in a spa.
This is the Arkansas temple
Where did you get the clips of the people in white?
That’s from Under the Banner of Heaven on Hulu.
@@WhenIWasMormon thank you!
@@FatTracksMusic you’re welcome if you haven’t watched it you definitely should. Based on true events type of thing
Which temple is this?
Manti, Utah
Where have you been? Ive been wondering about you and hope all is well, wgat temple is this
Iv been good! Just building a bus to live in haha now I’m trying to figure out getting to Utah to do more filming. Iv actually been working on interviewing other Exmo’s. And it’s an Arkansas temple
Shelby lives!
Haha yeah I’m here lol. More videos coming too! I’m actually interviewing other Exmo’s
@@WhenIWasMormon You're the best around!
@@mylesmarkson1686 thank you 🙏 this makes my day after fighting all these TBMs getting mad at me
@@WhenIWasMormon Pay no attention to the angry TBMers. They're just jealous that you've broken free to live your own life while they are forever doomed to live as clones in their suffocating cult. Words can't even describe how happy I am to see you back, and I can't wait to see what you have in store for us this time!
Mormon sacred cows...lol
Lmao
rep era in the making
You got initiatories and endowments a little mixed up, but you never went through, so no blame there. You are correct that pantomiming your own death was (and still is symbolically) a part of the ceremony.
The ceremony had changed a Lot over the years, and that's what started me on the journey out of the cult. Mormon God is a fickle one.
Haha thanks I really tried to get it right but all I had was my stories from my brothers.
Is it the symbolism of death still apart of the ceremony?
@@WhenIWasMormon The symbolism is still there in the endowments, but unless you know what it means, you have no idea. What's funny is that they tell you to search for meaning in all that you experience in the temple, but... you don't need to search. The older generation knows Exactly what the signs and tokens mean - no guesswork needed!
If you really want to know, it's easy to find it all online these days. But there's no need to go looking for more trauma than one already has, haha.
Apparently you didn't comprehend the idea of ongoing revelation...
@@DannyAGray As I said, the changes started me on my journey out of the cult, but the reasons to leave were legion. There is SO much wrong with the church and its teachings which have been hidden from its members. That's why so many are leaving mormonism these days; the internet age has made knowledge accessible for the avid learner and diligent disciple.
@Morstorpod you seem to be misinformed, generally. The church is growing at an unprecedented rate in spite of (or maybe as a testament to) the internet, which you wrongfully claim pulls people out. With all due respect, perhaps you might consider that what you *think* you've learned about the "cult" is actually the opposite of truth from unreliable sources.
If this was the manti temple, the reason you weren't allowed to go into the initiatory room was because the new murals were drying. They explained this in the walk through . . . wtf lol
It actually wasn’t at the Manti temple… so… I guess they gave you a different excuse? And also paintings drying on a wall? That’s the reason huh? Interesting
69th liker! Lol
lol 😂
They`re in Australia too sadly mate
There are open houses. Anyone can get pics of every room. That her level
Interesting, they didn’t want our cameras in there
Truly and honestly, if you're interested in providing a balanced explanation, I'd be open to doing a zoom call with you that you can upload for your viewers, and i can explain these things you don't seem to fully understand.
I don’t think anyone does cause the church isn’t transparent with anything including their finances. All that info must be in Hillary Clinton’s email somewhere
Believing in Jesus Christ alone, you are saved! You dont have to be baptized to go to heaven! Isaiah 43:10 before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. I love your testimony.
And yet, Christ was baptized to witness that he would follow and obey. 🤔
@@DannyAGrayBefore he sacrificed himself for ALL of our sins .
@@Sara-ce1yf what does that have to do with his baptism? He wasn't being baptized for sin; he was doing it because the commandment was that all people must be baptized. To say it's not required is ignorant.
@@DannyAGray Ohhh ok . Please read what happened when Jesus Christ sacrificed himself, what he said and why the baptism is not relevant after he died for our sins . Sincere Repentance is all that Jesus Christ asks for . Jesus is certainly not ignorant however those that don't read his true words are , The Holy Bible explains it all . By all means please read it .
@@Sara-ce1yf from your perspective, respectfully, when you read Christ's own words in John 3:5 and Mark 16:16, why do you suppose (in your view) Christ would say these words and then just be like, "NAH, PSYCHE, you don't need that cuz I died for you"?
This is just a prank! 😅😅😅 You cannot get into any of the temple rooms wearing black dress and sandals! Who would allow you? 😺😺😺
Well I did lol completely real
Open house. Before it's dedicated.
Nice tats too
Thank you 😊
You can't get baptized for the dead
Mormons believe you can lol I got baptized for hundreds of dead people
This video is cringey as hell
Mormons pretend to baptize dead people in their temples
@@CoreyBell-0517Mormonism is pure cringe
You can, actually. I did it twice before multiple times in a row. What's messed up about it, amongst other things, is that most of the names and people that get chosen for their proxies were given without permission. For example: a few times, the church actually baptized others in the name of Holocaust victims and even Hitler himself.
I remember when I was young and emo
Same
3/4 true, 1/4 inaccurate or intentionally misleading.
Can you explain?
@@WhenIWasMormon Sure. You seem like a nice person, but if you're sincere, you should be more reluctant to accept a lot of these recycled anti-mormon tropes as truth. Like I said, 3/4 of this is true, but that 1/4 is not only inaccurate, but it is misleading, which is wrong. For example, it would not be right for me to make a video about Islamic or Buddhist, or Jewish rituals or rites of which I have never participated in, or only have a surface level understanding. Even if I could get 3/4 of it correct, the last 1/4, might be wrong, or mocking, would be offensive to the people who actually know better. So here is a list of the easier stuff you got wrong: 1) You said that celestial room had "no other purpose" than what you mentioned, but you don't know it's biggest purpose (by far). 2) "Mormon weddings are not like typical civil marriages." Mormon weddings are exactly the same as civil marriages. What happens in the temple which can't happen anywhere else is a "sealing." In this, couples are sealed for time and eternity. LDS people can have their normal civil wedding anywhere they want. 3) "Give the wife a name for the husband to call out." Lol, no. I can actually see how someone might make this stretch, but that is not what the name is for. If you knew the real reason, it would make much better sense. 4) That pic of the garments is disgusting, but it did give me a good laugh... I would be shocked if anyone from our days used garments like those.... it's like some anti-mormons from the 70s sewed up their own set and made them look as gross and baggy as possible so they could say "see what you would have to wear!" Slightly offensive, but also quite funny. 5) Initiations are easy and not a big deal like this video makes them out to be. It's more of a pearls before swine type of thing, sacred and valuable only to those who would have done their homework about making serious covenants between themselves and God. 6) You mentioned being willing to die rather than speak against the church, also wrong. You never make a covenant like that in the temple. You make other covenants, but not that one. 7) Lastly would be a kind of umbrella position that you take where you insinuate that these things are unique to the LDS church. Temples, rooms, altars, veils, garments, and covenants are all over the scriptures, and not so much in the Book of Mormon. Almost everything in the LDS temple is found in the Old Testament and New Testament. The dead sea scrolls and other apocryphal writings discovered long after Joseph Smith are LOADED with doctrines that are easy for LDS to follow, while everyone else just scratches their heads over it. Similar garments and temple traditions have been going on since Adam and Eve, and that isn't just according to LDS prophets, you can find it scattered all over the sacred apocryphas and the bible. If you read this far, congratulations :-)
If you’ll remember what I actually said “until the late 80s early 90s they did indeed make that covenant. There was to much in that for me to everything so I’ll take them one by one. But they did indeed make that covenant, my dad did. The church has changed a lot of things over the years to meet social standards
@@WhenIWasMormon They do tend to make upgrades as time goes on, so I wouldn't be shocked if they got rid of something like that. Even if it was in there though, it wouldn't bother me. And it's not blind faith either. I have invested countless hours into study and research. The fact is, Joseph Smith just got too much right. He knew way too many things that would have been impossible for him to know at the time. His predictions and translations have aged way too well to be anything but prophetic. I'm not saying he was perfect, he said himself that he was a flawed man just like any other normal human, but the things he revealed were definitely from God, including the Book of Mormon and the temple covenants.
@Livrad so the issues I have here is the word prophet. Flawed man or not a prophet should never have a prophecy that doesn’t come true. He prophesied that god would protect him in Nauvoo and that no one could kill him until he was ready to die and then he was killed a month later. Argo false prophet
The church actually provides better video of the inside than yours. I couldn’t see anything
Oh really? I’ll have to check that out
@WhenIWasMormon the fact that you don't know this should give you pause to reflect on your own ignorance before you continue this kind of content, respectfully.
NewNameNoah provides several videos showing temple interiors and the temple ceremony itself.
@Morstorpod do you find yourself respecting those who disrespectfully film sacred rituals and mockingly present it to the world? Do you think it's somehow heroic or courageous or fun? Do you really think doing such things actually gives light to the faith of millions?
@@DannyAGraylol there it is.
I don't like the use of these hazbin hotel clips. They're really jarring and go on for too long. I get that it's saying mormonism is giving people a second chance, but even though people get a second chance in the spirit world (if someone is baptized for them) or in the millennium, after the final judgement, things are set in stone for real this time and mormonism still has the issue of eternal damnation with no hope of redemption. And there's that pesky second anointing issue where prophets can "do whatever and remain in the sky" in this life.
I also get the feeling that the clips are saying Mormonism is weird or bad for believing in redemption in the afterlife. I know this is not intentional and the opposite point of the show but the removal of context makes it feel supportive of the characters' views. Possible redemption is not what is wrong with baptisms for the dead. What is wrong is the belief that completely independent people need to do something here on earth to help people in the spirit world and that God can't just decide they are now considered baptized once they've enter the spirit world. Putting the weight of ancestors' sins (of omission) onto the younger generations.
The haphazardly used clips make you come across as trying too hard to appeal to what's currently popular.
Honestly I thought the clips were funny because baptisms for the dead is a gross excuse to get old men in bathtubs with underage boys and girls. Also don’t get it twisted I don’t believe in a god. I believe in science and that men made up religion as a way to control women into submission and to collect a tithe so they can work once a week and get paid more than Oprah.
It's makes me sad how angry you are with the church and the Christian religion. It's not my business and I haven't walked in your shoes but it makes me sad how angry you are instead of being passive about it.
Passive about it?? Passive about the kids that are abused by the troubled teen industry that’s funded and ran by Mormons? Passive about the racism that’s in the Book of Mormon? Passive about the inequality between men and women? Nah… I’m out spoken and not at all how the church raised me to be. I broke free from the mental prison that is the church. I’m angry because they still have prisoners. I’m angry that they still have their chains wrapped around people that don’t even realize what they’re defending. I’m angry that they still have you… when there are so many people suffering that need you.
Isn't that the same thing with Catholic church's? Daycares centers? Mothers and fathers hurting and abusing kids? What about the teaching sleeping with the students? My comment isn't to hurt your feelings but you have to remember that all religions Norse, wiccan, Catholic, Christian have good people and bad people. It's all the same but dressed differently. So please, don't take offense. I just feel sorry that your angry and hurt is all.
And I'm glad your speaking up about the abuse that goes on with organizations but remember, attack the evil people but attacking the organization isn't going to stop. Even if you stop the organization, evil people are still out there pretending to be good and it's not easy spotting bad people either. Just remember to walk in there shoes as well.
@@honeybee32952 I’m angry that all that pain and suffering that happens under the banner of “Jesus loves you”. Good people? I’m sure there are passive good people. The definition of a good person to me is someone that will be on the side of right even when the rest view it as wrong. Calling out the inconsistencies and following the actual evidence that leads you to the truth. (Not a made up feeling that you got from “the prophet”) you said “instead of being passive about it” why would I do that?
@@WhenIWasMormon because in the end, to define good and bad is difficult. Ones point of view of good is another point of view of bad or evil.
I appreciate this talk though. We are not arguing or fighting but disagreeing respectfully.
Take care and please, I hope one day you will heal from the pain you were given and what happened to you. Whatever you need to do to heal, do it regardless of what religion or faith or spiritual journey.