Classical Composer Reacts to DISTURBED: DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS | The Daily Doug (Episode 758)
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2024
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On this edition of #thedailydoug, I'm returning to the music of American band Disturbed, hearing one of their classic early hits, Down with the Sickness. I found this song to be full of great vocals, riffs, and social commentary. It's no wonder this has become one of the band's more popular songs over the years. I hope you enjoy!
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Mad fucking respect for playing the uncensored version instead of the music video. Just adds that intensity the song really needs to really be felt.
Yea, if folk are going to be reacting to metal they should go for the full experience every time.... not the watered-down versions for the masses.
There's a censored version? Damn I've listened to this song since like 2004 and didn't know
@@DiamondDM13 Some regions or radio stations (and the official video) cut out the abuse portrayal part. It just drops into the last riff set and ends.
@@Mestai31 Oh, that sucks.
@@DiamondDM13 mostly in the US
Your "WHAT WAS THAT?" at the first was how we all reacted when this album first came out haha
Yeah it was like "What the Helvering did I just listen to?!"
That's what the other 3 guys in the band said, too!
I appreciate how Doug at 5:00 got closer to his screen to hear better on his headphones🤷😅
sometimes it just helps lmao, like leaning irl while playing racing games
* Turning down the radio so you see better. 🤘
Doug reading the angry expletive rant in a calm, slow manner really got me
Metal Mondays is where it's at!
Facts
Doug: I want to hear the full version
Those of us who have heard the full version: 😶
I about fell over when he said that. Lol
Why start in the kiddie pool? 😆
it got played a t a little league game when I was an Umpire back in the day. Mothers were NOT impressed 😂
@@SilverSidedSquirrel😂
I literally suffered that kind of abuse all my childhood, so discovering Korn and Disturbed made me feel so... idk man, I don't even know how to describe how it felt to listen to this on my teenages. Love them till now.
They made you feel “seen” and validated, is how I’d say it.
Unfortunately, this song has nothing to do with this sort of child abuse. According to the singer, it is a pathetically generic American 'I hate the government and everything bad in my life is it's fault' song. I choose to ignore this disappointing revelation and just take it at face value.
With most songs, when you find out the true meaning and re-listen, it makes the song a lot better. In this case, it cancels out so much of it's uniqueness.
@SarthorS he didn't say that it was about any government but society as a whole.
And not that it's an excuse for bad behavior.
Mommy is our society (too many people in it)who demand that people conform to what is 'normal' and that anyone who isn't has the sickness.
It's a rally against 'mommy' and fighting against the manipulative abusive behavior that society brings against those who don't conform.
David has mastered using the guttural growls without causing strain to his vocal cords. And he uses it to GREAT effect in Disturbed's songs.
I remember an interview where David said "Ooo Ah Ah Ah Ah" will probably be on his tombstone 😂
@TheCharismaticVoice did an interview with David months ago now and they deep dive into his vocals. Definitely worth a watch if you want to understand his training and routines.
Of course, the intro's primal shout is the most iconic part, but what I'm really curious about is Doug's reaction to the awkward bridge that everyone seems to forget!
I did, had to watch to realise i never listened to this in it's entirety.
It's only forgotten because it's never included on the radio. :B
Yeah, it's pretty Savage.
Can’t wait to see that right now.
Well, not much reaction at all. He kept analyzing the music.
The 3+3+2 meter in this song is called a "Tresillo." When done with 16th notes, it's the first half of a rhythmic phrase common to Cuban music called the "Son Clave," which is syncopated as 3+3+4+2+4. You also get the same pattern when you take the first half of a bossa-nova rhythm, which is fully phrased as 3+3+4+3+3.
It's a bit harder to parse in this song because it's done in eighth notes instead of 16th notes, effectively making it a compound rhythm with two bars of 6/8 and one bar of 2/8, which as you mentioned simplifies to two bars of 4/4. I usually mentally count an eighth note tresillo as "1 and 2 and 3 and | 1 and 2 and 3 and | 1 and 2 and" compared to a 16th note tresillo which I count as "1 and a 2 and a 3 and | 1 and a 2 and a 3 and."
Despite being based on a Cuban tempo, Tresillos and Son Claves can be found in lots of American rock music, and once you know what you're looking for, you'll find the rhythm everywhere.
Cool, thanks
This is bad ass, TY!
Thanks for the education and the rabbit hole of tresillo. Here's a good one that demonstrates really how ubiquitous it is. When she plays Thunder Road on the piano and sings to it, it isn't obvious it is tresillo, then she seamlessly switches to counting and its cool. Another one a commenter mentioned is the first part of We Are Young by Fun. ua-cam.com/video/sMPt9BQTFXw/v-deo.htmlsi=VRpNyXpvg3a-qj63
its always so cool to me seeing doug do perfect air drums while listening to a song for the first rime
The end fucking killed me when he went for it and there was just nothing.
So glad you played the uncensored full version. Adds so much to the impact of the song that’s lost in the edited official video version!
fun fact about the "oh ah ah ah ah" at the beginning..david draiman (the singer) put that scream there after the whole recording..originally there was a full stop..but he tought it would be cool to add that because of the primalistic nature of the intro..iconic
Growing up with alot of gaslighting, extreame emotional abuse and around undiagnosed mental illlness I remember hearing this song at a party and just absolutely bawling my eyes out. I obviously knew it was a metafore BUT it still spoke to me on an emotional level and made me realize that what had been my life up to that point was not normal... That was when I started to plot my "escape" from my parents, I had already cut contact with one of them(the one I was not "loyal" to). It took me 2 tries but a few years later I was free, I owe alot to this song.
Yeah this is the real version meant to be heard.😊
what a way to wake up
before i put on my makeup
@@JRSiebz Got to do something new to create a little shake up
@@kolt4d559 Why did you leave the keys on the TABLE
I absolutely love Disturbed. Seen them live for the first time last year at Download Festival and my goodness they absolutely killed it! The energy and passion they put in to their set is fantastic. David has one of the best voices around and he really gets the crowd going to. Awesome band! Thanks for taking a look at this classic, Doug! 👍🏻
7:56 Doug is going down with the sickness 🤣🤣🤣
Getting lol
The video with the uncensored lyrics is really the best way to TOTALLY get this tune, IMHO.
This song needs to be preserved in the Library of Congress. To me, it is their best song, middle section included. When I listen to it, I really do feel that desire to be yourself and not conform for the sake of conforming. The second verse ("I can see inside you, the sickness is rising...") is like Draiman reaching out and inviting the listener to break free of the chains put on you by "Mommy." The whole album in general is full of these metaphors about individuality being represented through images of sickness, sex (consensual and not), beatings, murder, etc... The band name itself is a part of this as well. "Disturbed" is a reference to someone expressing their individuality and going against the grain being labeled "disturbed" in some way by society, or the mother culture. They're taking those negative labels of being sick and disturbed and reclaiming them. They have a song called "A Welcome Burden" written for this album but not officially released until their B-sides compilation album "The Lost Children," which describes the "rape of the mother culture," and peeling away her disguise to find the sickening truth (to which Draiman says "I kind of like it ugly"). If you didn't know any better, a simple face-value reading of the lyrics from this whole album is, if you can pardon the pun, disturbing. But it's clear there is a pure and potent desire for individuality that permeates this whole album.
Finding out what this song is really about almost ruined it for me. It went from being pretty unique to a generic American angry rebel whine. I reject it all and choose to take the lyrics at face value.
@@SarthorS So you prefer to interpret it as a sick and twisted individual trying to recruit other people into being sick and twisted and then killing his own mother?? That's a bit weird to me. Not sure why you would WANT that to be the meaning...
@@cowsaysmoo51 No. The mother IS the government, and all the horrible things she does to the kid is what the American government does to the people of the US. According to the band itself, that's the real meaning of the song.
Like I said, it's pathetic and ruins it.
I prefer to take it at face value. That it's an horrible mother whose abuse makes her child into a violent murderer and perpetuates the cycle of violence. Much better than some stupid political thing where a loser blames all his failures and shortcomings on the government.
@@SarthorS Okay so ALL of that is wrong. Draiman himself said, and this is a DIRECT QUOTE from him, "I'm really talking about the conflict between the mother culture of society, who's beating down the child yearning for independence and individuality, and the submission of the child." Which is LITERALLY what my first comment is about. It is not about somebody blaming his failures on the government, it's about society at large demanding conformity and dismissing those who do not conform. It's not political at all. It sounds like you're just projecting your own political views into a song with zero political angle, and also like you're glorifying the cycle of abuse.
@@cowsaysmoo51 I didn't mean that HE was blaming his failures on society. I was talking about the type of American who typically spews garbage like this. And yes, it's entirely political. I am not American, and so this almost pathological hatred that some Americans have for the very concept of government stands out very sharply to anyone who didn't grow up in a place where this is a significant thing.
The people of the US probably have the most independence and push individuality more than any other culture that has ever existed, and yet they also are likely the ones who whine the most about their lack of those things.
At least when the punks of the 70's were screaming about the same nonsense, they were intelligent enough to realise that if they got their way, it would mean the almost total collapse of their country, their society and their culture. But they didn't care because they 'wanted to watch the world burn'.
David has so many colors to his voice. Couple that with his rhythmic annunciation and it elevates the music.
Aw... To think we could've had Iron Maiden's Total Eclipse today for a Metal Monday eclipse special! Missed opportunity!
Oh shut up you’ll get it when you get it
I first heard this when a guitarist in my band brought the cd to practice and it blew my away. It was still on an indie label in '99 six months b4 it was on radio. First 2 albums kill it.
"Play the monkey song, Uncle" is what I heard from my nephew when we were in the car.
I think you can figure out the section that was removed for radio............. and I heard it 100 times like that before I ever heard the full length version!! Surprise!!
This helps me so much as a kid who played guitar and never understood why I played what I did. Now I understand the Phrygian and Locrian references. Where was YT and Doug when I could've used this info? lol.
Phrygian is 1 of my Favorite modes!
Literally the first time I’ve heard that middle section. Wow. Reminds me of Suicidal Tendencies 🤘
I've been a fan of Disturbed since I was a kid, I used to really like The Sickness album. As I've grown up and thought about it I feel like the sound was lacking a bit of depth and they hadn't quite found their groove yet. If you try their albums Ten Thousand Fists and Indestructible I would say that's where they had really worked out their winning formula, I love those albums.
This will be in my head all day now 😂
I rememberber listening to this on my local radio station. I was like holy crap they're playing the uncensored version. Needles to say I haven't heard it since. lol
My first ever comment on a UA-cam video, love everything you do, and Down with the Sickness is so iconic. Really appreciate your take on this music and your insight.
Daily Doug getting your first comment is so cool. New to the platform or just lurking?
I've seen them live 7 times. Always phenomenal. In the bridge they go to 7/4 time.
Love Disturbed, and, loved your reaction! Not many reactors see the full version, so, yours was a treat. Please do more from Disturbed as they have a huge catalog of hits well worth getting to know. 😊
The first time I heard this song (and it was this version), I was blown away by the power and emotion that this song carries. Amazing song. Nice choice man.
I have heard this track so many times and played the intro on drums a few times, but I am still kind of "envious" of you to being able to hear it for the first time, because that first sensation of "what the Helvering did I just hear" is really great
This song will always be iconic and legendary
An undeniable classic
Unedited! Yes, Doug!!
This is why I am subscribed. Person with classical background understanding and breaking down metal. In my opinion, some classical (including opera) was just metal before amplifiers were invented.
I grew up with this song and, as a person who grew up in abuse, I always felt a connection to it in that sense of my own person. Hearing you talk about the societal interpretations of it though has really opened my eyes to a whole other side of this music - so thank you very much for that! I love the new angle and I think I'll really enjoy keeping it in mind the next time I listen to this song.
I think you hit that analogy on the head. Also the Wahaahahaha David improvised that because the beat was just so primal that it just happened and it was left in.
Just a note, this song is played in Drop D on the guitars and bass (E Standard, but the Low E string is dropped down a full step).
glad you got to the breakout hit, it was really formative for me to decide to not shy away from the full version, its really a great piece of musical theatre and so wildly uncomfortable and gripping but still musical but also well acted.
I really like their song Remember, it gives david some great oppurtunities to shine on vocals and has such gnarly main riff i cant get enough of. Theres a live version on the band's youtube channel (Live in Quebec City) that is awesome too. I think youd totally enjoy it.
love and peace
I CANNOT WAIT for you to get into the 2nd album, Believe. The melodies are just *chef's kiss*
I don't know if you have checked out the band Primus. Primus is a very unique band and has a sound that is unmatched by any other band. You should listen to 'My Name is Mud' or 'Jerry was a racecar driver' by Primus.
"Tommy the Cat" is my favorite...and "Too Many Puppies."
Wynonna's big brown beaver, shake hands with beef...
Nah. Primus sucks. ;)
Seconding this and recommending 'John the Fisherman'
A little bit of background, the "ooh-wah-a-wah-ah" was an improvisation. The lead singer dropped it randomly in a late session and it ended up making the final cut. And now it's iconic.
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I loved Lincoln Park , it was sad and hard back in the day.
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I love Metal Mondays. This is an incredible song. Thanks for choosing it. 🤘
Always knew of them but I never checked out their music until I heard Sound of Silence
This is the first time hearing this version. I love David’s voice and really like a lot of their songs . 😊
For the guitar tuning they drop C. A very common base tuning for them early for the first 3 albums or so.
Although I was well aware of the metaphorical meaning of this track, I sent this version to my mother, as I suffered a great deal of mental and physical abuse from her as a child. It gave me a sense of closure.
I’d also strongly recommend The Game by them as well. It’s from their first album and was never released as a single, but virtually always makes their live setlist. Truly an absolute classic
I listened to it on cd growing up. I never gave the middle section a second thought as a kid 😅
The "Mother Culture" is a reoccurring theme in Disturbed's lyrics, the most prominent use I can think of is the song A Welcome Burden which I interpret as the building a new culture on the ashes of the previous (the mother culture).
check out The Wrist by Mushroomhead. they have a few good songs, Solitaire Unraveling etc. they have good combo of drums, piano combos with the usual metal guitars
I remember when that hit the radio. I was in high school and begged a classmate to borrow his copy of _The Sickness_ for a night so I could burn a copy. I didn't entirely know what I was getting into and this version really surprised me! XD
Excellent album all around, honestly.
Doug, you HAVE to react to Judas Priest - Diamonds and Rust live Epitaph, this is absolutely one of my favorite performances in a live concert EVER, I also recommend everyone who’s never seen it, truly amazing
refreshing to see somebody who appreciates the technicality of disturbed. like you said, they came out at a time when they could not be appreciated. These guys, kids at the time, were musical geniuses. draiman may be one of the most underrated talents of our generation. I found you thru your take on the sound of silence video which is one of my all time favorites. So many bands during this era were creating huge batches of nothing, but some 20 years later people are hearing this content for the first time and saying like you did, wow. Love it, subscribed. Keep at it, and thank you.
Everybody cringes and makes fun of the mommy break. I just really appreciated Doug getting the meaning of it and the weirdness of the harmony in that part.
I personally love that part. The unhinged artistic expression and risk of putting something like that on your big breakout single. Also the weird meter. It's fun.
That song is one of my favourite songs of there's. So powerful and David voice is truly great
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Iremember buying this album when it came out. I wore the tape out listening to it.
Hopefully he does more disturbed, but I'm exited for some early Korn. The Bass on the early stuff is crazy, and the bagpipes hey throw in sometimes are really interesting. I don't know if he'll react to Daddy, but it's in my opinion there best song. it's heavy, dark and experimental it and fits the lyrics/backstory very well. the acapella intro, the creepy riffs, the crying/singing near the end, the weird conversation on the extended cut, etc. Everything about it is such a pure raw work of art, from a deep emotional pit. I think the best Music paints a picture and builds a world with it's sound, and this does that amazingly.
The bridge is in 7/4 or 4/4+3/4 and it really changes up the feel of the song.
I recommnd the band Death. Voice of the soul is an emotional amazing instrumental. Or crystal Mountain. Chuck is considered the godfather of death metal and just an amazing player.
I really like the way your interpretation of the meaning of the song. Most reactions I've seen take it literally and get chocked.
I just discovered your channel by chance. I love your reactions. I am a big fan of Disturbed
Doug! Since you fooled us with Metalli-Huey Enter Sandman, you gotta do ‘Land Down One-der’
Love this song!❤ I remember buying this CD when it came out
I will never forget the first time hearing the full song and my first thought was, “Oh fuck I cannot play this around my sister.” She was uber christian and would *not* have been happy with me.
I actually first heard the full version of the song on the radio when it first came out, but it was late at night when the DJs can get away with more. The part about the mother/son shocked me to the point that I had to pull over the car and just process it for a while.... but at the same time, it was hugely cathartic to me even though I never went through abuse in the literal sense depicted in the song (for many of the same reasons you discuss in your video).
I used to listen to this song (and other Disturbed's stuff) in my teenage years. I love their early records - It was hard, rough, punchy and deep.
I'm glad that you liked this song and thank you for the analysis.
I would love to see a reaction to Protest the Hero or Maximum the Hormone with how you analyze things
I love the song, personally, and pride myself on self-teaching the OH-AH-AH-AH-AH and can get enough power behind it to startle folks. I feel the song is... Kinda naked without that controversial bridge. I initially heard the album edit, so I'm jarred to not have the bridge in there; I didn't know the more metaphorical reasoning, but as an angry, broken, bullied little teen it let the anger I felt out into music. It and other numetal around the early 2000s helped me find an outlet for how much I was aching and breaking that wasn't someone other kid who tipped me off on the wrong day, or myself. Disturbed, Korn, Slipknot, they still keep me going and help find non-destructive outlets when the mental health spirals out of control to concerning places.
I first heard this in High School. I would jam stuff like this during off campus lunches and practice my oboe in the evenings.
Appreciate you, Doug - another solid review
The story behind the "oh ah ah ah" is that during the recording of the song David Draiman was just feeling primal from the drums and just improvved that and they kept it
FWIW, Violet Orlandi and AI Mori did a great, full, cover of this on Violet's channel during Covid. Even earned a comment and a like from the band.
Hey Doug, you have to do Dimmu Borgir - Dimmu Borgir next! Especially the live version from Wacken 2012 is truly excellent as the song is performed with a full classical orchestra + choir on stage with the band.
I feel you can take a guess at what part is cut from the radio edit ;)
Such an incredible banger.
One correction to something you said-the reason this song is done at the end of concerts is because it takes David’s vocal folds that long to warm up enough so that the harsh vocal sounds at the beginning won’t cause damage. I “discovered” Disturbed just a few years ago but I have watched every video interview I can find in a effort to understand their message and music.
Really interesting, as always
i was in college when this album came out and it seemed like someone was always listening to it or the first system of a down album. good times!
@Doug Helvering Maybe do a double shot of AB - one live (Albert Hall or Wembley) and one acoustic in studio (Billboard) of the same song. "Addicted to Pain" or "Rise Again." You won't regret it! Thx! Great show today...woooooh, wha ah ah ah ah!
Whenever I hear this song Im reminded of going to the theaters to see the DAWN OF THE DEAD remake and hearing the Richard (Dick) Cheese cover of this song, which is like lounge music. Doug should totally hear that band too.
I love the way you reacted to this amazing song. As others have pointed out, the "sickness" in the song is referring more to the "diseas" of non-conformity. Looking back through American history especially you see in each major rebellious period the people not wanting to conform to the status quo being label sick, disturbed, or similar terms to make them outcasts and the song itself it encouraging people to embrace that as a badge of honor that you are working to build a culture that will accept individuality.
Rock on! This song still gets me hyped!
Drowning Pool's Bodies is another classic from the early 2000s. Dave Williams was a good guy and talented singer, gone too soon
I just saw Disturbed live in Melbourne Australia. David Draiman did the duet of "Don't Tell Me" with Lzzy Hale from Halestorm, who performed in top 4 of Knotfest. I'm just so happy they happened to be there during my vacation and the weather was perfect and day ended with Pantera!
Oh, also, I met David Draiman at breakfast buffet at Park Hyatt the morning before and morning of the metal festival. Super Cool!~
Please do more of Disturbed, especially first 4 albums! I love them so much and I felt like I was hearing the song for the first time with you.
Hi, I see a lot metal group passing by, but one, yes one specifically group that is so good and they play it up so little! The name is "Yesterday and Today" shortened "Y&T" lissen to the LP "Earthshaker" from 1981, all the song are master pieces. Last song of the LP is the most beautiful metal balade 'I Believe In You" Greeting from Belgium
PLEASE do more of Disturbed's classic songs like STUPIFY, PRAYER, STRICKEN, INSIDE THE FIRE or INDESTRUCTIBLE!!!
I also love their cover of Land of Confusion
Your intro for this both made me feel old and may be one of the best things I’ve ever seen given the context of which song you’re doing. It’s like when you hear someone talking about bach 😂
"inside the fire" is also a very good song of theirs that deals with a tough subject..... you should react to that one too
After listening to this album so many times. I just expect to hear violence fetish play right after 😅....really happy to see you dive into their earlier music. They have so much good music.
Great live band! If you get the chance to see them live, do so!
Let’s just say that middle section was my stepmom in literal life. I only lived with them in 8th grade but it changed me for the worse. But as I got older I decided to forgive and let it go. Although I’ve never seen her since but I reconciled with my dad. He asked me to forgive him.
Forgiveness heals deep wounds. And I really felt free at that moment.
You have one of two reactions when you first here this. There is the modern human what was that, or for a lot of us we heard it as part of music. It just preped our brain to hear what was comming.
Disturbed - Voices. I think this is second after down with the sickness. More of their heavy stuff.
Love that you decided to listen to this. Because the other meh (in my opinion) things that every UA-camr and their moms react to, I don't really care for. For me, it's their early work that I enjoyed a lot.
And you've done it time and time again that you react to stuff that isn't trending all over the place. Which I hugely respect.
You were not
EXPECTING THAT!