If you're playing situational cards with cycling anyway, the number of cards you're willing to pitch to Channeled Force goes up a fair amount, since you might want to cycle them anyway. You'd still rather cycle them on turns 1-3 if able, but it's something to keep in mind.
There are a lot of powerful cards here to comment on but I think the two most important are Farfinder and Mysterious Egg. For Farfinder I think it is important to note if you played in DOM with Surveyor we found that in the first pack or so you actually take it more like a B-. This is because it allows you take powerful cards of more colors more aggressively then if you settle firmly into two colors it drops down to C+ in pack two then nearly D or F if your colors remain consistent in p3. If you do wind up picking up more powerful colors in non-green it stays B- C+. Just being able to take, say, a slightly off color apex in pack 3 and especially given the wedge nature of the set I think you actually take it as a B- p1 then drops off on later packs. Second I tho k Musterious Egg deserves a build-around grade where if you have 7-8+ good mutators it honestly seems more like a C+ and in the best aggro mutate decks that have cheaper mutators it kinda winds up in a weird spot between C+ and B- where you take it over Salk other C range cards. It just seems like a very swingy card that can wind up being super busted or unplayable.
I really appreciate that you made this series over the course of days leading up to the set release. That made it much more manageable to go through and easier to commit to memory than Limited Resources who just sloshes every color together into massive reviews hours long. I also appreciate that you added the geese video to the ikoria limited playlist on accident instead of this one.
It is nice that it doesn't require a specific form of leaving the battlefield. You still get to keep the counters if the creature is bounced or exiled.
Re: the Crystals - I think it's worth noting that Raugrin (URW) is the best for 3 reasons: it's in the cycling colors; it's in the non-creature spell colors; and it's in one of the non-green wedges (along with Savai). I think this pushes it slightly above the others.
@@Vario69 because Green has the best access to other fixing (so mana rocks for the wedges that include green are worth less as there are more options); and including this in a deck that cares about non-creature spells gives it extra value (as it can trigger such abilities) compared to similar rocks being included in decks that don't care about non-creature spells.
I think you severely underestimate the enclave. In a long format the second card draw is invaluable as it gives you another option. I would care it to labyrinth of Skophos which was, for me at least, a beast at the theros pre release. I would first pick that just because repeatable card draw even with a condition is really strong.
Thanks for all the videos on the new set it has been a great warm up to the release! Any chance you could publish a list of all your grades as it would be very usefull?
awsome set reviews man ive watched for years but never commented. you are my go to channel for preparing for sets im interested in drafting. keep up the good work and thanks for your time and commitment to doing these for us. stay safe and i will finally stop being lazy and sub :) cheers.
I always liked the double negative of choose at random when there is no real choice. Gain at random would be a better choice of words in cards like Crystal Giant
I have a tribal deck that has all creatures that earn +1/+1 counters and I am buying a playset of The Ozolith on day one, or maybe just preordering it depending on what the prices are at right now. I don't see this being very popular in Standard but my tribal deck is based entirely on 1/1's that come out early and easily and then beef up fast and an artifact that costs one mana with no activation cost that lets me save all of the counters I've racked up instead of watching them get wiped out ... that is absolutely priceless and a game changer. Before, if I lost too many of the creatures that were summoned early on, usually when playing against decks with a lot of removal spells, I usually stood no chance if I wasn't able to deal lethal damage somewhere between turn 4 and turn 6. With this card I don't have to feel tempted to throw in bigger creatures with higher mana costs that would result in weaker odds of having an opening hand with a strong first three turns.
Titans' Nest, is a good Cycling enable... You Cycle something, Draw a (1) cost cycle card that you don't care for, and then exile that previously Cycled card to essentially Cycle for Free. Something that Zirda, can make happen often.
Edits: - Illuna, Apex of Wishes: "It has mutate for three generic, one BLACK/Green hybrid mana, and two Blue mana..." (Red/Green Hybrid) - Lore Drakkis: "Next up it's Lore Drakkis who for one generic, a Blue, and a GREEN..." (Blue and a Red) - Skycat Soverign: "I think this is first pickable despite being MONOCOLORED..." (It's Azorius colored, not mono.) Seriously, for an almost hour and a quarter long video, having this little is astounding. Well done, and thanks for all the useful info! Edit: Looking at Obosh again, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you telling me that with him on the field a Shock becomes a Lightning Bolt +1? Cause that's gonna be annoying as hell.
T1 Mysterious Egg, T2 Parcelbeast for a t2 3/5 that's got a great ability. I know it's a bit nut drawy but with the egg at common you should be able to pick up a couple in draft, especially if people are sleeping on them which I think they will.
Obosh giving any odd-costing creature with first strike the ability to kill something twice it's size is honestly scary to think about, especially with keyword tokens and mutate being able to change the cost of a creature while keeping the keyword.
Super surprised on your D grade to Titans nest. You talked about the ability to load your graveyard, but I think that’s only half of that ability’s benefit. Late game it’s fantastic to strip lands and weak creatures off the top of your deck as it’s essentially a free surveil at the beginning of each upkeep. As for the second ability, nothing wrong with some ramp, and I think that if it hits the battlefield by turn 6, that ramping will still be very relevant for at least a few turns, especially if you have a few big creatures (which green has a lot of). No bomb or anything and you prob don’t first pick it unless the pack is v weak bc of the color restriction, but I’d say C+ is pretty fair and could go higher with a lot of graveyard payoffs (which is very reasonable in those colors).
Who else thinks lore drakkis would be a bit more reasonable if it had haste? Adding haste would give both the creature and the mutate a bit more utility without being as efficient as evasion.
If you mutate it on to a creature that was already in play since the previous turn, Haste wouldn't do anything. But yeah, it has a cheap enough Mutate cost that that would make it moderately better.
@@NizzahonMagic I meant for those corner cases where a hasty 2/3 or for attacking with a fresh high power creature is valuable. Since the mutate is only two mana, I could see it being used as a follow up more easily than other mutates
O K A Y, it seems like pulling off Lurrus’ companion cost is hard, but for me it was actually super do-able. There’s a lot of good removal in white and black, so getting something like a Dead Weight lock as early as turn 4 is pretty devastating. And in terms of permanents, there’s a ton of good cards that are made even better with Lurrus (like garrison cat) because you can just cast it over and over, so it ends up being super aggressive. The strategy really is to just dump your hand, and then do it over and over again. I even MILLED someone out with a draft deck having Lurrus as a companion, just because having graveyard recursion of token makers like general’s enforcer is so powerful. The way I won usually revolved around Lurrus too, because I ended up being so much more aggressive due to its lifelink. Give Lurrus evasion and/or some extra power, get down cheap recurable token makers and tappers, and fill it in with a bunch of removal, recursion, and protection spells and you’re good! Even if Lurrus is exiled early, the strategy should have enough early fodder to push through for a 3-0.
Fascinating how there's only one single Artifact Creature in the entire set... Does it even make sense for one to be in Ikoria then? Is crystalline giant some sort of an anomaly?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qLApVtJR-TnrjeMJs09sRe-fQ6w_mjoqeh--nXPp5io/edit?usp=sharing Hey, everyone! Just as I did for the last set, I compiled all of Nizz's grades into an excel spreadsheet for easier viewing as a whole! It got a good response last time so I thought I'd do it again. However, the most common response I got was a desire to include some other people's grades as well, so this sheet has Nizz, Deathsie, Lords of Limited, and Mana Leek's grades for the Ikoria set. I hope everyone gets some use out of this and is as excited as I am for Ikoria!
I think youre too low on offsprings revenge. Really helps to offset some of the risk of mutate by giving you great targets, as well as letting you recycle your strongest abilities. Seems like a C+/B-
Lurrus of the Dream-den only checks that you're permanent cards are cmc 2 or less, not all cards. Instants and sorceries are unaffected. I don't think it makes much of a difference in limited though.
Man... I totally see that. I played with it on draft and it was not as good as I thought it would be. You are racing yourself to play your hand at each turn and 2 out of 7 games, that actually looted my deck! Fun card for constructed, but in limited I dont think its that good. I would give it a C- or B+.
If titan's nest had golgari colors, I think it'd might be the hugest bomb in the set and it would make golgari/abzhan decks probably top tier. So sad it's cmc is sultai
I know these videos are for limited but Fiend artisan is almost definitely gonna get banned in some kind of formats. Card is so strong I’m honestly surprised they made it a thing.
Not really, creatures tend to be heavily power creeped. Not removal. And it's a 2 mana exile with a downside with a 2 colour restriction. Compare to path, or swords and no. The fact it's exile is very relevant in standard but it's definitely worse than a bolt or a push. Removal has been so bad in recent years that adding in good removal is kind of needed
Ashra don’t think it’s worse than bolt really, for standard it’s just a BW exile with no downside in a lot of decks but it’s definitely needed without a doubt. I’ve missed cast down or walk the plank since rotation and happy to see it here.
Everyone's comparing to bolt, but this is basically Vendetta. This can hit black and exiles instead of destroying, and slightly different loss of life, but overall it's not much better for a second mana and second color
i know you rated this card low, but getting back Keep Safe with Lore Drakkis's mutate trigger can enable you to play a big, go-all-out-on-one-creature mutate style, which seems fun if nothing else
Fox Tribal does exist already, but almost all of it came from Kamigawa blocks. Not to say that Eight-and-a-Half Tails was bad. He's great! But with this new set, I can definitely see Fox Tribal being more fun, since now we can really get colors outside of Mono White~ (Now we just need another visit to Innistrad so I can have more fun with my Werewolf Tribal~)
@@invertedghostgames9899 Oh I know about the foxes from Kamigawa - I didnt get to play that set (was on MTG hiatus), but have eyed them since. We still dont have enough for EDH fox tribal :(
@@alyssinwilliams4570 With this set I think we actually might have enough, since tribal is 30 creatures of a single type if I recall correctly (it's been a while.) Include the Artifact and Colorless ones, such as the cute robo-fox that gains you life from Kaladesh and the new three drop from this set that nets you a land and you've got an interesting deck!
@@invertedghostgames9899 Depends mainly on how many creatures you want to run, could be 25-40 really. I think my ghost-centaur-guy EDH deck has around 35 creatures. Also, Filigree Familiar is awesome
@@alyssinwilliams4570 Oh absolutely! It was really underrated, as were the rest of the roboticized animals, but it was one of the best in my opinion. I still think there'll be enough for a good Fox Tribal deck with this set though. Boros Foxes could be fun! (Especially since Rune-Tail flips into an enchantment as soon as he enters 9/10 times, preventing good damage~)
I think you substantially underestimated Abzan Ultimatum. I drafted it recently and it just wins games. Cast it 5 times too, because cycling + green fixing makes it easy to find the right mana.
Wow in this video I disagreed with many cards' ratings, but specially with Obosh, which you may not include as companion but it's essentially a 6/5 creature for 5 hybrid that highly pumps a good amount of your other creatures and spells.
I assume the answer is no, but ill ask anyway: does the mutate trigger happen upon targeting a creature or upon resolving/entering the battlefield? Just trying to understand if mutate happens if creature is killed in response.
right from the magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02 "if a mutating creature spell tries to resolve but can't because its target is illegal or has gone missing, the mutating creature spell will simply resolve and enter the battlefield. So, it's not quite an "all Dinosaur eggs in one basket" kind of risk. One note though: although the spell resolves and the creature enters the battlefield, any "Whenever this creature mutates" abilities it has won't trigger." The mutate spell needs to resolve and attach to the host for mutate to trigger, otherwise you simply get whatever card you cast for mutate cost.
Still trying to get back into the game, so if I reanimate something with mutate on it from the graveyard, can I cast its mutate cost and get the effect or does it have to come to the field as if regularly cast? I heard about the missing Godzilla cards from box sets. That's messed up.
Chevill isn't a bomb? I want to see you win that card even once. if they have any removal in their deck they will win the game on the spot, using the removal nets them more removal and it's gg by then. Black is loaded with removal at common and plenty of more in uncommon and chevill is also good with fight effects and bites found in green. It's like hateful eidolon that you don't have to build around
Wow, I can't believe you graded Song of Creation as a B+. There are so many downsides. The fact that you discard your had at the end of the turn means that if your top deck is a land, you're gonna skip a turn. Also, there's a real possibility of getting milled by its effect, as you could be drawing 5 cards a turn. I do agree that in an aggro deck that needs reach, this would be wonderful, but I don't think the average deck will use it to its full potential. I think it's comparable to Whirlwind of Thought, but to the other side of the Spectrum.
I agree you don't want to first pick them, but you could have probably said that they would be B- or even B if you were already in all three colors, or whatever.
Even with something that's not beefy, Back for More can be just as effective with something with deathtouch. Something this set has plenty of. Have to disagree with your wanting of more abilities on certain mutate creatures. Kind of defeats the purpose of mutate and especially when the set gives you plenty of targets to gain abilities and cards that cycle to grant abilities. Can't have EVERYTHING on one card.
Is it just me, or does Mutate feel a lot like bestow? You're basically turning the creature into an "enchant", you have the risk of the 2 for 1, the only real difference I see is the potential for multiple triggers and that it isn't literally an enchantment
There are similarities to be sure, but the interesting customizable nature of Mutate makes it considerable different, since you get to make decisions on which textboxes you want/which stats you want, instead of just Bestow doing what it does. Also, Bestow is better against 2-for-1s mostly, since if the Bestow creature resolves, it will still come to the battlefield after the creature it was Bestowing dies.
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the reply! I think that that's true about the customizability, but wouldn't you always want to pick the one with the highest base stats then, since it'll have all of the abilities of the ones above/below it? And I didn't know that last bit about Bestow, thanks!
16:00 Even if it costs hybrid mana, you must have all the in the colors in the respective symbols. So you can't use this in a Simic (Blue/Green) or an Izzet (Blue/Red) deck. magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/word-commander-2011-06-20 unless this is the only format the rule applies in. Love the video though keep up the good work!
Yorion, Sky Nomad. You said "Even though you're never going to companion with this." Challenge accepted! Not to be facetious, but I could see a world where I first pick this card and find myself in UW + another color. Because I'm just drafting the best card in my colors in each pack, maybe at the end of the draft I have 36 playables/mediocre cards and I throw in 24 lands and call it a day. The argument at this point is whether or not running a more consistent 40 card deck would be better. I think always having Yorion in your opening "hand" and starting the game with an extra card is worth it .
Whenever I watch these set reviews, it feels like there's always one or two cards that spontaneously come into existence.
What do you mean
@@Vario69 I've noticed the same thing too, like cards that you haven't really seen spoilers for, they just appear in this video
Wedge Tricycle Lands now exist. Holding out hope for the Shard Tricycle Land cycle next :)
Return To Alara Reborn
@@faerie7dragon Son of the resurrection of return to Alara reborn 2: Electric Boogaloo
Also enemy color cycling lands
We getting tricycles before we finish the bicycle lands. Oh boy
yeah, i thought they's finish that cycle instead
I mean, generally one rides a tricycle before a bicycle, so...
If you're playing situational cards with cycling anyway, the number of cards you're willing to pitch to Channeled Force goes up a fair amount, since you might want to cycle them anyway. You'd still rather cycle them on turns 1-3 if able, but it's something to keep in mind.
There are a lot of powerful cards here to comment on but I think the two most important are Farfinder and Mysterious Egg. For Farfinder I think it is important to note if you played in DOM with Surveyor we found that in the first pack or so you actually take it more like a B-. This is because it allows you take powerful cards of more colors more aggressively then if you settle firmly into two colors it drops down to C+ in pack two then nearly D or F if your colors remain consistent in p3. If you do wind up picking up more powerful colors in non-green it stays B- C+. Just being able to take, say, a slightly off color apex in pack 3 and especially given the wedge nature of the set I think you actually take it as a B- p1 then drops off on later packs.
Second I tho k Musterious Egg deserves a build-around grade where if you have 7-8+ good mutators it honestly seems more like a C+ and in the best aggro mutate decks that have cheaper mutators it kinda winds up in a weird spot between C+ and B- where you take it over Salk other C range cards. It just seems like a very swingy card that can wind up being super busted or unplayable.
I really appreciate that you made this series over the course of days leading up to the set release. That made it much more manageable to go through and easier to commit to memory than Limited Resources who just sloshes every color together into massive reviews hours long. I also appreciate that you added the geese video to the ikoria limited playlist on accident instead of this one.
Woops on the geese! Haha
Those full art tricycle lands are amazing in everyway
this might be the best multicolor video youve posted, just shows how amazing this set is.
A creature does not need to “die” for The Ozolith to trigger. It happens when a creature leaves the battlefield.
It is nice that it doesn't require a specific form of leaving the battlefield. You still get to keep the counters if the creature is bounced or exiled.
Including blinking!
@@SpitefulAZ Absolutely there's a huge difference between 'dying' and 'leaving' the battlefield---Professor Thragtusk
I do think that helps but there aren't a ton of bounce effects in limited. If there were more +1/+1 counters in the set it would probably also help.
Re: the Crystals - I think it's worth noting that Raugrin (URW) is the best for 3 reasons: it's in the cycling colors; it's in the non-creature spell colors; and it's in one of the non-green wedges (along with Savai). I think this pushes it slightly above the others.
Why being non-green and non-creature is considered an upside to you???
@@Vario69 because Green has the best access to other fixing (so mana rocks for the wedges that include green are worth less as there are more options); and including this in a deck that cares about non-creature spells gives it extra value (as it can trigger such abilities) compared to similar rocks being included in decks that don't care about non-creature spells.
Okay
I think you severely underestimate the enclave. In a long format the second card draw is invaluable as it gives you another option. I would care it to labyrinth of Skophos which was, for me at least, a beast at the theros pre release. I would first pick that just because repeatable card draw even with a condition is really strong.
Thanks for all the videos on the new set it has been a great warm up to the release! Any chance you could publish a list of all your grades as it would be very usefull?
awsome set reviews man ive watched for years but never commented. you are my go to channel for preparing for sets im interested in drafting. keep up the good work and thanks for your time and commitment to doing these for us. stay safe and i will finally stop being lazy and sub :) cheers.
i played MTG back in Sixth & Seventh Editions... almost 20 years without playing but somehow I love all Nizahon's videos...
I always liked the double negative of choose at random when there is no real choice. Gain at random would be a better choice of words in cards like Crystal Giant
Gain at random just sounds a lot clunkier in my opinion. Besides, you chose as soon as you put the card down!
I have a tribal deck that has all creatures that earn +1/+1 counters and I am buying a playset of The Ozolith on day one, or maybe just preordering it depending on what the prices are at right now. I don't see this being very popular in Standard but my tribal deck is based entirely on 1/1's that come out early and easily and then beef up fast and an artifact that costs one mana with no activation cost that lets me save all of the counters I've racked up instead of watching them get wiped out ... that is absolutely priceless and a game changer. Before, if I lost too many of the creatures that were summoned early on, usually when playing against decks with a lot of removal spells, I usually stood no chance if I wasn't able to deal lethal damage somewhere between turn 4 and turn 6. With this card I don't have to feel tempted to throw in bigger creatures with higher mana costs that would result in weaker odds of having an opening hand with a strong first three turns.
Ill watch all these on repeat to be ready for playerdratfs tomorrow
Titans' Nest, is a good Cycling enable...
You Cycle something, Draw a (1) cost cycle card that you don't care for, and then exile that previously Cycled card to essentially Cycle for Free.
Something that Zirda, can make happen often.
Cannot wait to get the fiend artisan... it'll be beautiful for my constructed deck. Praying it gets underrated so I can pick up multiples
Bone Lurker looks like something you would see in a Nurgle army.
Edits:
- Illuna, Apex of Wishes: "It has mutate for three generic, one BLACK/Green hybrid mana, and two Blue mana..."
(Red/Green Hybrid)
- Lore Drakkis: "Next up it's Lore Drakkis who for one generic, a Blue, and a GREEN..."
(Blue and a Red)
- Skycat Soverign: "I think this is first pickable despite being MONOCOLORED..."
(It's Azorius colored, not mono.)
Seriously, for an almost hour and a quarter long video, having this little is astounding. Well done, and thanks for all the useful info!
Edit: Looking at Obosh again, and correct me if I'm wrong here, but are you telling me that with him on the field a Shock becomes a Lightning Bolt +1? Cause that's gonna be annoying as hell.
I can’t wait to play with A L33T Heedbonder 43:31
T1 Mysterious Egg, T2 Parcelbeast for a t2 3/5 that's got a great ability. I know it's a bit nut drawy but with the egg at common you should be able to pick up a couple in draft, especially if people are sleeping on them which I think they will.
Slitherwisp has what wavebreak hippocamp lacked: flash.
Obosh giving any odd-costing creature with first strike the ability to kill something twice it's size is honestly scary to think about, especially with keyword tokens and mutate being able to change the cost of a creature while keeping the keyword.
Hope I get to play against you in the event tomorrow! Thanks for all the videos!
Super surprised on your D grade to Titans nest. You talked about the ability to load your graveyard, but I think that’s only half of that ability’s benefit. Late game it’s fantastic to strip lands and weak creatures off the top of your deck as it’s essentially a free surveil at the beginning of each upkeep. As for the second ability, nothing wrong with some ramp, and I think that if it hits the battlefield by turn 6, that ramping will still be very relevant for at least a few turns, especially if you have a few big creatures (which green has a lot of). No bomb or anything and you prob don’t first pick it unless the pack is v weak bc of the color restriction, but I’d say C+ is pretty fair and could go higher with a lot of graveyard payoffs (which is very reasonable in those colors).
Who else thinks lore drakkis would be a bit more reasonable if it had haste? Adding haste would give both the creature and the mutate a bit more utility without being as efficient as evasion.
If you mutate it on to a creature that was already in play since the previous turn, Haste wouldn't do anything. But yeah, it has a cheap enough Mutate cost that that would make it moderately better.
@@NizzahonMagic I meant for those corner cases where a hasty 2/3 or for attacking with a fresh high power creature is valuable. Since the mutate is only two mana, I could see it being used as a follow up more easily than other mutates
O K A Y, it seems like pulling off Lurrus’ companion cost is hard, but for me it was actually super do-able. There’s a lot of good removal in white and black, so getting something like a Dead Weight lock as early as turn 4 is pretty devastating. And in terms of permanents, there’s a ton of good cards that are made even better with Lurrus (like garrison cat) because you can just cast it over and over, so it ends up being super aggressive. The strategy really is to just dump your hand, and then do it over and over again. I even MILLED someone out with a draft deck having Lurrus as a companion, just because having graveyard recursion of token makers like general’s enforcer is so powerful. The way I won usually revolved around Lurrus too, because I ended up being so much more aggressive due to its lifelink. Give Lurrus evasion and/or some extra power, get down cheap recurable token makers and tappers, and fill it in with a bunch of removal, recursion, and protection spells and you’re good! Even if Lurrus is exiled early, the strategy should have enough early fodder to push through for a 3-0.
Fascinating how there's only one single Artifact Creature in the entire set... Does it even make sense for one to be in Ikoria then? Is crystalline giant some sort of an anomaly?
Fuck yeah my Lochtmere, Thryx deck is back in business
Fiend artisan is low-key a psuedo Tarmagoyf...I need it
Chevill has me brainstorming a Commander deck
And I was just about to sleep. Darn
Do you think you could share a spreadsheet or whatever document so we can reference during drafts?
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qLApVtJR-TnrjeMJs09sRe-fQ6w_mjoqeh--nXPp5io/edit?usp=sharing
Hey, everyone! Just as I did for the last set, I compiled all of Nizz's grades into an excel spreadsheet for easier viewing as a whole! It got a good response last time so I thought I'd do it again. However, the most common response I got was a desire to include some other people's grades as well, so this sheet has Nizz, Deathsie, Lords of Limited, and Mana Leek's grades for the Ikoria set. I hope everyone gets some use out of this and is as excited as I am for Ikoria!
you gotta consider for parcelbeast that on turn 3 you can mutate this onto something and immediately tap it
This was considered.
I think youre too low on offsprings revenge. Really helps to offset some of the risk of mutate by giving you great targets, as well as letting you recycle your strongest abilities. Seems like a C+/B-
The flavor text for Sonorous Howlbonder should give it an honorary A+
Lurrus of the Dream-den only checks that you're permanent cards are cmc 2 or less, not all cards. Instants and sorceries are unaffected. I don't think it makes much of a difference in limited though.
Have you completely missed or ignored the "discard your hand" on Song of Creation?
Man... I totally see that. I played with it on draft and it was not as good as I thought it would be. You are racing yourself to play your hand at each turn and 2 out of 7 games, that actually looted my deck! Fun card for constructed, but in limited I dont think its that good. I would give it a C- or B+.
If titan's nest had golgari colors, I think it'd might be the hugest bomb in the set and it would make golgari/abzhan decks probably top tier. So sad it's cmc is sultai
Dire Tactics? Wizards just embracing power creep as hard as they can, aren't they?
I know these videos are for limited but Fiend artisan is almost definitely gonna get banned in some kind of formats. Card is so strong I’m honestly surprised they made it a thing.
Not really, creatures tend to be heavily power creeped. Not removal. And it's a 2 mana exile with a downside with a 2 colour restriction. Compare to path, or swords and no. The fact it's exile is very relevant in standard but it's definitely worse than a bolt or a push.
Removal has been so bad in recent years that adding in good removal is kind of needed
Ashra don’t think it’s worse than bolt really, for standard it’s just a BW exile with no downside in a lot of decks but it’s definitely needed without a doubt. I’ve missed cast down or walk the plank since rotation and happy to see it here.
It's bad against aggro without a human deck and aggro is the deck you want cheap removal against. See the connection here?
Everyone's comparing to bolt, but this is basically Vendetta. This can hit black and exiles instead of destroying, and slightly different loss of life, but overall it's not much better for a second mana and second color
i know you rated this card low, but getting back Keep Safe with Lore Drakkis's mutate trigger can enable you to play a big, go-all-out-on-one-creature mutate style, which seems fun if nothing else
Zirda the legendary foxo! I want to build a fox tribal deck now
Fox Tribal does exist already, but almost all of it came from Kamigawa blocks. Not to say that Eight-and-a-Half Tails was bad. He's great! But with this new set, I can definitely see Fox Tribal being more fun, since now we can really get colors outside of Mono White~
(Now we just need another visit to Innistrad so I can have more fun with my Werewolf Tribal~)
@@invertedghostgames9899 Oh I know about the foxes from Kamigawa - I didnt get to play that set (was on MTG hiatus), but have eyed them since. We still dont have enough for EDH fox tribal :(
@@alyssinwilliams4570 With this set I think we actually might have enough, since tribal is 30 creatures of a single type if I recall correctly (it's been a while.) Include the Artifact and Colorless ones, such as the cute robo-fox that gains you life from Kaladesh and the new three drop from this set that nets you a land and you've got an interesting deck!
@@invertedghostgames9899 Depends mainly on how many creatures you want to run, could be 25-40 really. I think my ghost-centaur-guy EDH deck has around 35 creatures. Also, Filigree Familiar is awesome
@@alyssinwilliams4570 Oh absolutely! It was really underrated, as were the rest of the roboticized animals, but it was one of the best in my opinion. I still think there'll be enough for a good Fox Tribal deck with this set though. Boros Foxes could be fun!
(Especially since Rune-Tail flips into an enchantment as soon as he enters 9/10 times, preventing good damage~)
I think you substantially underestimated Abzan Ultimatum. I drafted it recently and it just wins games. Cast it 5 times too, because cycling + green fixing makes it easy to find the right mana.
I mean I said you win if you cast it, so it doesn't sound like I underestimated the card. Maybe I underestimated how easy it is to cast, though.
@@NizzahonMagic Fair enough, I would have rated it a B+ or A- probably. My experience with the card is that it's easier to cast than expected.
Zilda... do you need no basic lands then too for Companion?
With the Ozolith the creature doesn’t have to die just exile an fertilite an let it come back for example
i think it's worth noting that the ultimatums are better in sealed than in draft.
Kind of. You are less likely to get the right fixing in Sealed, so seems dangerous, even if games go longer.
Wow in this video I disagreed with many cards' ratings, but specially with Obosh, which you may not include as companion but it's essentially a 6/5 creature for 5 hybrid that highly pumps a good amount of your other creatures and spells.
So you think it is an A rather than a B?
I assume the answer is no, but ill ask anyway: does the mutate trigger happen upon targeting a creature or upon resolving/entering the battlefield? Just trying to understand if mutate happens if creature is killed in response.
right from the magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02
"if a mutating creature spell tries to resolve but can't because its target is illegal or has gone missing, the mutating creature spell will simply resolve and enter the battlefield. So, it's not quite an "all Dinosaur eggs in one basket" kind of risk. One note though: although the spell resolves and the creature enters the battlefield, any "Whenever this creature mutates" abilities it has won't trigger."
The mutate spell needs to resolve and attach to the host for mutate to trigger, otherwise you simply get whatever card you cast for mutate cost.
The companions should have all had the flavor text "Don't try this at home. Or in draft."
so sultai flash can be a thing now...
Still trying to get back into the game, so if I reanimate something with mutate on it from the graveyard, can I cast its mutate cost and get the effect or does it have to come to the field as if regularly cast? I heard about the missing Godzilla cards from box sets. That's messed up.
No, you can't mutate from reanimating. You can only mutate if you pay the alternate cost and you can only do that when casting it.
can someone please tell me how the outro tune is called. its so good.
Chevill isn't a bomb? I want to see you win that card even once. if they have any removal in their deck they will win the game on the spot, using the removal nets them more removal and it's gg by then. Black is loaded with removal at common and plenty of more in uncommon and chevill is also good with fight effects and bites found in green. It's like hateful eidolon that you don't have to build around
Zenith Flare was an A+ little did we know
I have been waiting for this one lol
For some reason I kept hearing "bouncy counters"...
Wow, I can't believe you graded Song of Creation as a B+.
There are so many downsides. The fact that you discard your had at the end of the turn means that if your top deck is a land, you're gonna skip a turn. Also, there's a real possibility of getting milled by its effect, as you could be drawing 5 cards a turn.
I do agree that in an aggro deck that needs reach, this would be wonderful, but I don't think the average deck will use it to its full potential.
I think it's comparable to Whirlwind of Thought, but to the other side of the Spectrum.
Death’s oasis + birthing pod = edh walue.
59:59 Does Zilda affect Mutate? It should, right?
Mutate è un costo di mana alternativo per lanciare una magia, quindi non è un'abilità
No, Mutate is an alternate cost, not an activated ability.
@@NizzahonMagic that's what I told him but in Italian 😅
I think the Ozolith is good with the Crystal Giant, but Sadly this will Never Happen.
Rating the gain lands and the trilands the same seems highly suspect.
Well, I made it clear the trilands are better. They are C++ basically. I still don't think you want to first pick them, so I can't really go higher.
I agree you don't want to first pick them, but you could have probably said that they would be B- or even B if you were already in all three colors, or whatever.
The poor otter was banned from commander even before the set is released....
And brawl
Even with something that's not beefy, Back for More can be just as effective with something with deathtouch. Something this set has plenty of.
Have to disagree with your wanting of more abilities on certain mutate creatures. Kind of defeats the purpose of mutate and especially when the set gives you plenty of targets to gain abilities and cards that cycle to grant abilities. Can't have EVERYTHING on one card.
I disagree with the assessment of the multicolored lands. I think the green ones should all be a little lower than the rest. Maybe a C.
it's weird to see elk that is not 3/3 made out of food
Is it just me, or does Mutate feel a lot like bestow? You're basically turning the creature into an "enchant", you have the risk of the 2 for 1, the only real difference I see is the potential for multiple triggers and that it isn't literally an enchantment
There are similarities to be sure, but the interesting customizable nature of Mutate makes it considerable different, since you get to make decisions on which textboxes you want/which stats you want, instead of just Bestow doing what it does. Also, Bestow is better against 2-for-1s mostly, since if the Bestow creature resolves, it will still come to the battlefield after the creature it was Bestowing dies.
@@NizzahonMagic Thanks for the reply! I think that that's true about the customizability, but wouldn't you always want to pick the one with the highest base stats then, since it'll have all of the abilities of the ones above/below it? And I didn't know that last bit about Bestow, thanks!
Offsprings revenge... Cycle mutate?
Idk man, Kinnan looks good in every point of the game
How? Mid game he is just a bear.
Oh wait, I miss read the card, I thought they included lands, my bad
16:00 Even if it costs hybrid mana, you must have all the in the colors in the respective symbols. So you can't use this in a Simic (Blue/Green) or an Izzet (Blue/Red) deck. magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/word-commander-2011-06-20 unless this is the only format the rule applies in. Love the video though keep up the good work!
Only for commander, bud. In standard, historic, or limited the Apex cards can be run in two-color decks.
That is just edh
My mistake, thank you for clearing that up!
Proud Wildbonder should say "wasn't" instead of "weren't," just sayin.
Yesssssssss
he said a bit sus 😂
You misspoke on illuna
You said you can play it in red green 🤣
Wooooo
lore plus hex pteradon is broken
Just from the prerelease stage, this set seems like a miss to me
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Yorion, Sky Nomad. You said "Even though you're never going to companion with this." Challenge accepted! Not to be facetious, but I could see a world where I first pick this card and find myself in UW + another color. Because I'm just drafting the best card in my colors in each pack, maybe at the end of the draft I have 36 playables/mediocre cards and I throw in 24 lands and call it a day. The argument at this point is whether or not running a more consistent 40 card deck would be better. I think always having Yorion in your opening "hand" and starting the game with an extra card is worth it .
I don't think a 5-mana flyer and a blink effect are enough to justify playing a less consistent deck.