Why Is Bodybuilding So Boring Nowadays?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2017
- Here I give my #1 reason why bodybuilding is so boring to watch these days compared to how it used to be.
Lee Priest's opinion: • LEE PRIEST on PHIL HEA...
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Exactly !! The Thing is Dying !! I said it countless times on Record!! Be saluted !!
politics killed the game man
Lui lu all the best buddy and agreed!!
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luimarco we said that .they dont bec they no they will loose to phil
luimarco i agree great video man
the reason the top mr olympia competitors don't go to the arnold classic is because arnold will roast them about there disgusting bubble gut
lol that's probably true
If the top 5 in the Olympia dont automatically quilify for next year that would solve the problem
That's a good idea. Of course 1st place would have to because it would be ridiculous to not have the reigning Mr O return to defend his title but there's no reason spots 2-5 shouldn't have to re-qualify
Well, it would benefit everyone more if even phil had to requilify each year.
If only phil would quilify though it would be a little bit harder for the other top guys to dethrown him.
Because before Social Media Bodybuilders needed to compete to put their name out there and earn money.. today you can win one olympia and live off instagram for the rest of your life
so true
And also, competing at least 3 times a year would prevent the athletes from becoming too big and make them look better and also more conditioned. Good video! You are absolutely right.
4 years later and Bodybuilding is so exciting and looks to be headed in a great direction
It's very simple: Because the bodies now suck. I keep saying this; A bodybuilding body used to be something that a person would watch and say to themselves "wow, i wish a had a beautiful body like that". No one is saying that with these muscle freaks. I dont care about drying out to the point where your cheek bones are popping out of your face or striated glutes or boasting about one huge bodypart that ruins the rest of the symmetry of a physique. Case in point, Big ramys quads, lee priests arms, dorians back etc.
With you on Ramy and Dorian but are you really saying Lee Priest had a bad physique? Guy looked awesome in his prime! Still does imo. I also prefer the physiques in the earlier days between 70s and mid 90s though, so i'm happy about the classic physique division.
@@nilsholgersson7316 No one other than a bodybuilding fan would want to look like Lee Priest, or even damn Flex Wheeler. They're too goddamn big
Bodybuilding is not about aesthetics and never was
@@laurikotivuori1585 prime flex was like 220
@@ericoluizgarcia3365 he was 212lbs in 1993 which was his best year. His later years like 1998 and 99 lacked conditioning, he had no visible separation in his hamstrings or glutes those years, he had actual fat in there. His back had also dwindled away by that point, unfathomable how Flex placed above Chris Cormier in 98 or 99 with his amateur like conditioning from the back. Oh well, bodybuilding politics of the 90's for ya, same reason Dorian best Nasser in 97
It's the same bullshit. Nothing real, all politics. I was hooked on bodybuilding until I learned the real side of things, and now I'm just a gym bro.
I seen you work out. You're very well respected in the field. Congrats. 💪🏋️🇺🇸
Tom maybe they compete less, because maybe they take more, potent, toxic to the liver PEDs? that's my only guess to tell you the truth. If I was bodybuilding in the 80's, early 90's I would probabaly do waaaaay more shows than that. They probably say to themselves *I need to give my liver and kidneys a break* with all the shit they take nowadays compare to 20 something years ago. Just my guess. IDK what's your guess?
could be that. Wouldn't be surprised if it's somehow drug-related
I also think that it is impossible to peak six times a year with a top-6 Olympia physique. I honestly would love to know what amount of drugs a big Ramy or Phil Heath is taking.
it make sense because those are all synthetic body build competitions.
Lee Priest was always noteworthy. Always one of my favorites!
I agree. Waiting an entire fuckin year to watch the top guys compete is bullshit. I get how taxing it can be on your body to compete but the guys from different era's were able to pull it off? AND imo they looked way better and provided a MUCH deeper line up. The problem with today's bodybuilding isn't lack of talent (genetics). The mindset is just different now. Everyone wants to be as huge as possible NOW. Without putting in the proper time
Almost 2.5 years later and this still hasn't changed.
now it did
in my opinion youre the best of lui,
you and nick, thank you very much for these brilliant videos
thx man!
the Lui has over 3 mill subs
last time I saw it more like 200k, at least on UA-cam. Maybe you're talking about Instagram or something else. Either way, both Lui and Nick are wayyyyy bigger than me lol. Maybe I'll get there one day
Tomn8er no word of a lie lui must have unblocked it yesterday! i saw it at 3 mill no joke
Nick just reads stuff of wikipedia and other sites. Nothing interesting about him.
now another site posted your vid too,but they are giving you credit for it this time. you're going to have a lot more subs soon; this vid is making rounds. great job!
Seems like they need a point system, now I don't know much about shows beside the Olympia. So I think
A win in a top tier show would be worth 10 point a place only 8
A win in a mid tier show would be 6 for a win 4 for a place
Lesser tier show 3 points for a win 1 for a place.
To be offered a place in the Olympia you need 12 for the year.
I also think social media plays a part, everything is readily available, thus makes it not that exciting, while in the 90's people were waiting anxiously for the magazines to come out, or sitting in front of Eurosport or something, or vhs video coming out. That said however, the 90's was simply better on every level, no offense, but just look at your slideshow in the video. The physiques were much better, the trainingvideos from the past are much more hardcore and motivating (Maryland muscle machine, coleman the unbelievable, yates blood and guts,...), more charismatisc personalities in the sport, Joe and ben weider were still alive and I think they still wanted that old school feeling in the bodybuilding scene, the lighting and stages at the shows were much better, guys did way more shows as you said (one grand prix after another, the biggest names, gosh I get excited just talking about it), the legendary posing routines (yates 93', levrone 02', Shawn ray 99',...) true women bodybuilding was still alive (I mean common, lenda murray, what a physique!, btw she looks phenomenal today! I always thought women bodybuilding should have stayed, it reminds me of the 90's and it had its place next to men's bodybuilding in my view),... I think the IFBB needs indeed to rethink a lot of stuff and not only creating one new category after another, please start to focus on the main event, men's open, and make it exciting again (more shows with big names, more focus on shape, symmetry, instead of insulin mass mass mass,...) like in the past, from the 60's to the 90's/beginning 2000's, with 90's being the absolute climax! Those pictures from the Arnold classics and grand prix's in the 90's, those were the days, look at those freakin' line ups, what an exciting time for bb it was!
Lenda Murray looks so hot lol, I fully agree with you there.
And back in the day, during Ronnie's reign, it seemed like the bodybuilders genuinely like each other. Now they seem like they genuinely dislike each other. They rarely praise each other.
Great vid, honest and insightful.
Another great vid from our T800, model 102 (nickname: Tom) :) Just keep 'em rolling, your videos are always high quality stuff!
Also: wow, 97 AC Levrone was _off_ like fuck. Never seen him in such a bad shape.
Gábor Szabó yeah I think that may have been his worst placing. Was reading an interview from him the other day n he mentioned it was drug related. He took something he didn't normally take n it messed up his prep
FYI I reread the article today and Levrone said it was *GH and insulin* that messed him up for that show since he normally never took that stuff... I'm gonna link it in a future video, it's really a must-read for anyone who's curious about what goes on behind the scenes in the drug game of these top pros
Well said man!!!👍👍👍 You and lui Marco are right!!!
I think it comes down to laziness.
Getting ready for a show is fucking hard, and the bodybuilders in the 90's took pride in working hard. Powerhouses like Dorian Yates, Levrone, and Coleman focused on lifting heavy. Now, bench pressing and deadlifting a lot of weight isn't necesserily important in bodybuilding. But it gives you pride, self-esteem, and motivation to keep fighting because you know that you are a strong motherfucker.
But looking at today's bodybuilder's training videos, it feels like they wanna do ''just enough''. And they are not following those strict routines as the 90's bodybuilders did. In the 90's they went underground, eating, drinking, and shitting bodybuilding. Today, bodybuilders are forced to travel around to be ''ambassadors'' for the sport. They are more interested in earning easy money by travelling around, signing autographs and selling supplements instead of doing the bodybuilding.
very good viewpoint on the current state of the pro ranks.... like you I couldn't find one name in the NY PRO 2017 show I heard of (perhaps Oliva Jr, but by daddy name only)
I'd heard of Sergio Oliva Jr too but only very recently. Juan Morel was the only guy I'd known about for years. It was a very weak lineup
Excelent video mate!
Tominator- good video, good opinions... I was thinking that Olympia placings 2-6 should not automatically qualify them for the next year... That crew of Rhoden, Roelly, Rami, etc SHOULD have to do a couple shows a year.. But then again they all do the Grand Prix after the Olympia so technically they are doing multiple shows a year...Just thinking out loud here, keep up the good work
yeah but they can just coast into those post-Olympia shows without rly having to prep and it's anti-climactic after the Olympia. Would be much better to see them at other points in the year
May be all the six are pregnent at the time.....
Straight forward view...being honest. AWESOME 👍👍👍
brilliant video :-)
IFBB could make a rule that all bodybuilders must place top 3 in a sanctioned competition, every year, to qualify for the Olympia. It would bring the upper echelon out to the Arnold at least and would spur top 16 guys to compete more frequently and the lower echelon would have to up their game to get a check. Might also cause physiques to be less grotesque because they can't pump the same amount of juice year round.
I thoroughly agree with the points you've made in this video. The top pros saving themselves for one competition? its an outrage. I have to admit I did think & want Mcmilian 2 win the 2017 Arnold Classic. his condition physique and posing was refreshing and in short awesome. You covered everything Id want to say so to repeat your script but less convincingly is silly. i do hope something is done about the poor attendance of the top pros in the comps for 2018! I love Bodybuilding and have followed it since the 80's. Just because the guys are bigger today does not for one moment give them an excuse to compete less.
Right on thanks brother
it's fun to watch those minor shows to see up and coming talent. but,yeah,the top guys never compete in anything but the Olympia anymore.
we need to show more people this sport i know when i become 18 im gonna try my hardest to compete
Three years later are you competing yet?
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should be mandatory for the top 5 to keep their spots on the rankings to do more than one fucking show a year....
I think the reason why the top guys don't do as many shows that they used to do back in the day is because nowadays there's so much more ways to make money like UA-cam Instagram the Internet Photo shoots and everything else back then there was way less ways to make money so they competed as much as possible
its boring because they keep making Phil the gut Heath win year afte yeaar with his parhetic looking physique !!!
Hey, why no Arnie impression at the start.. You should stop listening to the haters dude.. Your Arnie rocks..
Its not hate man its constuctive criticism, if alot of the people who like his videos and continously watches his channel doesnt like it, why continue doing it?
@@gruu Because a lot of people do like it.
we all know the secrets of getting big , so why the f to get exited on something you personally can achieve
Why is it that the only show with competent lighting was the IRONMAN PRO?
Bodybuilding seems boring now because the lineup during Ronnie Coleman's reign can't be topped. Even Jay Cutler said that when Ronnie stopped competing, it wasn't fun anymore.
can you do a video on flex lewis stupid rear lat spread
Good point bro
Main reason is social media, wasn’t around in the 90’s and early 2000’s like it is now, so when the big day came no one really knew what they were all gonna look like = anticipation, excitement etc now they all post pics and vids day after day from months out, so we all know what it’s gonna be like, or actually we get disappointed because they all post the biggest most impressive shots/angles/magic mirrors then they step on stage and your like WTF happened from the last week or two, you were looking sick now your all flat and watery, or full and smooth 🤷🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ expectations are just not met anymore!!!
Seeing some comments on here about the IFBB not paying bodybuilders salaries to compete. That simply isn't true. The IFBB (Wieders) has been paying salaries to these guys for many years. From Flex, Ronnie, etc. In an interview with RX Muscle just last week Jean Pierre Feux (spell check) said Wieder was paying him $84,000 a year to compete, and that was in the late 90s. The schtick is that the Olympia pays so much more and has so much more emphasis put on it that it makes other shows seem obsolete. I think the Tomn8ter nailed it here.
The problem is that showing up to these other shows so close to the Mr.Olympia can actually wear out your body and have you show up to the Mr.Olympia looking like shit. Your body will only peek so many times before it looks bad for the next show especially the BIG guys
Crazy thats akim juan sergio and justin at the ny pro.
i think subconiously the common man has realized that champion body builders of today are synthetic and unrealistic, whereas in the past decades(60s,70s,80, 90s) there was a part of the public that knew that we too could look as good as arnold, frank zane or any of them..modern body builders just dont relate to what modern man can attain and achieve (w/o massive amounts of "supplimentation")..and honestly, we go to the gym NOT to have a gut!
Roelly winklaar or dexter are literally the only one that does anything other than the Olympia anymore
Is this because the money doesn't come from winning shows? It comes from promotions, endorsements and social media?
6:01 lol that head looks like it was put on with MS Paint.
0:45 gyno city
I used to follow bodybuilding in early 90's and I used to think the same. I used to Wonder why Mr. Olympia only competed once. And when Dorian broke the mole by competing in 96 German Pre, I was shocked.
The sport is dying. Partially why some only compete in the Olympia is because some consider it to be more difficult to prepare for two major shows who are months apart, it being very physically demanding. When you can just train all year to earn the best title in bodybuilding history. Plus people like Phil have dissed Arnold saying he didn't have legs and I'm pretty sure that would affect their placing.
The top guys in the 1990's had to do more shows because the prize money and endorsements weren't great. It wasn't a thing for the top guys back then to put their name to supplement lines they may not even have created. Dorian Yates earned around $100,000 to win the Mr Olympia. Phil Heath makes over $400,000 to do the same today in a weaker talent pool of GH guts.
Damn,,, your right on the money!!!
Oh how times have changed.. this years Olympia is going to be very very good.
Poor conditioning, Bubble Guts and Fixed Winners. NIce thumbnial of the Battle of the Bubbleguts!!
maybe its because top bodybuilders nowadays earn a lot more money through social media or selling their own products than back there. lets take kai green or phil heath, they are both millionairs, why should they ever go to NY or Arnold, if all they can do is maybe not place first. back then they needed the price money i believe. could be wrong though
Tom you made some great points that mostly all of us fans of BB agree with!!
The competitors aren't disciplined. Big Ramy, Phil Heath, Kai Greene, Roelly Winklar, Dexter Jackson all coming in year after year at their best ever would make bodybuilding very interesting.
I'd say it's to do a lot with the current drug use habits. Getting your drugs across borders is very hard since 911 and heightened airport security, and not only is it harder they need to bring way more with them. This crop of bodybuilders just can't the size and hardness they want to without the insane amount they're almost all on now. If they toned down the drugs they're organs could take it better, and they'd be more consistent, and find it a lot easier to get them across borders, or arrange them ahead of time.
bro u know anorld classic is an invitation show right??maybe anorld didn't invite them..i.may be wrong though
lol maybe I'm not sure, but he invited Kai last year despite clearly not wanting him to win? Or what about Branch all those years? Arnold hates that look
5:24 Still can't believe Ronnie looked that good in the A&T.
Maybe the Arnold, but the prize money is next to nothing in the smaller shows like the NY Pro. Not worth the top 6’s time money or effort to compete in……sad to say :(
It's kind of a catch 22 here. The top pros won't compete because the lack of prize money. But the shows can't get the big attendance needed to increase the prize money because the top pros won't compete...
If all the top 6 guys competed in every event, the top 6 would remain just that, at least until they start coming in off or out of shape, all the other events are better for the other body builders minus the top 6 at olympia, it fine tunes who the next up and coming top 6 will be when the already top 6 one by one start to decline due to age or for what ever reason, it's a necessary process other wise no one would get the chance to become mr Olympia top 6
Hey buddy after Dorians recent interview where he suggested Brandon curry wouldn’t make the top 6! ( which I agree with ) I see A lot of forums there’s some say Brandon would win why not do a Brandon v’s Dorian 93 compulsory comparisons?
Hey buddy, this video is almost 2.5 years old.
Fux was like a massive flex
What do you mean 'Nowadays'? They have always been boring. The last bodybuilding contest I viewed was way back in the late 80s. It was boring as all hell, and I never went to another one again.
I think they found another source of income like sponsor and special training .. i think also camel crew and oxygen gym may effect on these bodybuilders
its boring because they put more effort into social media and marketing than the competition itself
Still great video in 2018
5:30 is amazing indeed
The reason is before prejugding night, bodybuilder must take diuretic. Week before that nigh, bodybuilder must increase then decrease water to almost zero. If they compete too frequently, their kidney will be fuck up. Bodybuilding become boring not because bodybuilder compete less, but because 90% of good genetic guy change to compete at men physicque or classic physicque.
I agree..im not even excited about this year's Olympia..its already decided Phil is gonna win..Kai is gone..now I'm looking at other federations..they need to shake it up
People used to look at bodybuilders and say"I want to lool like that". Nowadays no one wants to look like bloated baloons.
Only reason why bodybuilding is still upstanding is thanks of the social media
Its a beauty contest
Isn't part of the problem people don't want to do this sport now? The drugs, the health? I mean before the mass monsters the lifestyle that was promoted was 'fitness' and that just doesn't fly now.
If they're spending 15k plus on drugs for a lesser show with no real prize money it may not be worth it? Also, if they had mandatory shows 3 times a year spread out, they probably wouldn't have much time to cycle off their gear.
look point blank period a bodybuilder can make more money doing other things than competing and when it comes to the Olympia you already know who's going to win Phil will even if he's off the Arnold Schwarzenegger syndrome and you don't get paid much competition wise and it's not worth it really
I agree the competition sucks nowadays but I disagree with most that the golden era was the 90's. In my opinion the golden era was the 90's and the 00's. From 2000-07 the Olympia was the Ronnie vs. Jay rivalry. Gunter competed till about 05 or 06 and he was the uncrowned mr.o of 02. Levrone competed till 03. Cormier was still there. There was Victor Martinez I could keep going on and on. So yea I think the golden era from the competitive point of view extended into the 00's.
The competition may have been there but the physiques had already started to decline. 2006 imo was the worst Olympia in recent history the top two (Jay and Ronnie) looked awful. Even by 2000 Ronnie had pretty much lost his aesthetic appeal
It's boring because Heath is not the best, he did not look the best at the O, and I truly believe won just because they wanted another 7x winner. I think even if he competes in bad shape they will keep giving him the title untill he retires. Smh.
Easy fix, the only automatic Olympia qualifier is the top 3 at the Olympia not the top 6. From 4-10 have to requalify, see easy fix.
It's all about money. MrOlympia prizes are so high that this guys want to be in top shape during this one event.
They're really not though. Most these guys in the top 10 get like 20-50k in prize money - it's peanuts!
I meant MrOlympia prizes are high compared to other Pro Shows. They have no reasons to compete there. No money, no ranking points, no glory. Maybe if their sponsors have interes in their participation, but BB dont have any ads on their body so this is quite unlikly scenario.
The only solution is: IFBB require of few starts in a season, in order to activate a qualification they had earlier won.
Thanks for reply, i hope you understand my English, I'm form the other side of the world :)
IFBB I expose them on my channel
the problem it synthetic bodybuilding. to keep high level of mass with help steroids is bad for their health. if was natural they could compete more often. also the show have to be close together because can keep very low body fat for short amount of time.
In my mind no one should get free qualification for the Olympia, make them all have to compete to qualify!
Bodybuilding got all the attention it did because of Arnold; a bodybuilder lucky enough to be a Hollywood A star. Now that there's no bona fide bodybuilder in the spotlight, obviously the sport will start to fizzle. Hate to say it but bodybuilding may go back to being as popular as it was before Arnold.
Maybe it's the beating their bodies take from all the drugs, dehydration, etc. Why compete in smaller shows when they can give it their all in the biggest show
Local Body Building shows featuring real locals is rich fertile soil to grow the sport.
Probably good for the bodybuilders health as they only have to stress themselves to the point of death once per year
The women's physique and figure divisions are great. Even the women's bodybuilding while it was still around. Women deserve the same chance to showcase their hard work. Unless it's bikini. That shits boring
with out guys like big ramy competing at many shows. The whole league would die. And no bodybuilders now these days care. This video and many videos did'nt even get many views.
it's a different world now... 1st place for the Olympia is up to $400,000... why should Phil Heath compete in any other show? He has absolutely nothing to gain and everything to lose... for example he competes at the Arnold and wins...people will say oh he beat sub-standard competition, if he comes in off and places 2nd... that could put a ton of pressure on him to rebound at the Olympia.... so with those stakes and that kind of prize money - hate to say it but it's pretty clear to me why Phil Heath only competes at the Olympia
Yeah Phil Heath sure but what about the other guys in the top 6?
they usually do compete in all the European tour shows immediately following the Olympia. Dexter Jackson for example competed in at least 4-5 other shows shortly after the Olympia last year. Another thing to consider, bodybuilding is boring because there is no rivalry.... when Ronnie and Jay were placing 1 @ 2 there was a lot of build up to those shows to see if Jay could finally beat him etc
Yeah but those shows are all over in a couple weeks and nobody cares because it's small fries after the Olympia. They usually place them in the same order anyway. So basically we get to see the top guys compete one month out of the year... lame!
I disagree with you, Frank Mogavero. Compare it to tennis: the number one competes in all major tournaments and more. He doesn't win them all and he sure doesn't have to do it for the money any more, but that doesn't seem to hurt his ego or image. You cannot expect from someone that he always will win every time he competes.
so in tennis if it's not for the money then why do they compete in all the tournaments rather than the major ones? Are they contractually obligated? I'm asking because I don't really follow tennis
Sad but true.. bodybuilding scene has become boring.
The Top 6...They have to make sure the 2nd tier gets paid and stays in the fight so they can eat, and pay their bills. ijs
Damn… 2017 u made videos? Also lets not even go to the fact that IFBB Pro card is not really prestigious anymore
Good idea
It's not that bodybuilding is boring is that the people you don't like are the one winning
Not at all. Phil is among my top ten favourite bodybuilders, maybe even top 5.
4:30 When everyone talks about 90s conditioning...
Look at the difference! Pretty sad really we lost a cool sport/show or whatever.