I have one request, rather than just saying "this one" or "that one" in your videos, can you say which robot you are referring to? I'm a blind person and have no idea which robot you were talking about in some cases, with what I know from other videos I can guess but sometimes it was very hard to tell. Looks like the Max V is now available and I went ahead and ordered one but the station is not available yet. I'm assuming I can get that once it becomes available. The Deabot also sounds like a great robot, I may get that one as well.
That's a great point Mike, I didn't think of that, and I will be sure to keep it in mind for future videos. In this video, if I'm saying something awesome about it, it's probably the Roborock. :P
@@MrRoombato I have a Roborock S7 Max V on the way, I didn't get the auto empty base since I will hopefully be able to get the auto empty and mop washing station at some point. This means I'll have to empty the bin and wash the pad manually for a while but I don't mind that. I've had robot vacuums before where I've had to empty the bin, not as convenient but it's not that big a deal. I actually went out and bought a Roomba J7 yesterday, using Voiceover which is the screen reader built in to an Iphone, I was able to set it up totally without sighted help which was nice. The other robot I am considering is the Ecovacs X1 omni, are you planning on doing a video on that one? I'm also thinking of getting a Roomba S9 since it has such cleaning power, I'm not sure why Irobot chose not to use the same vacuum motor for the J7.
@@mikearrigo5674 The j7 is an i7 with a camera in the front, so that's why they didn't use a different motor. Cheaper that way! I would avoid the s9 at all costs. It's a floor scratcher. And yes, I will do a review of the X1 OMNI. It's a very good robot.
@@MrRoombato Sounds like you have used the S9. I have all hard floors, no carpet at all. I've thought about the S9 a little more and think I will probably skip it. The cleaning power is supposed to be really good but I'm guessing the Roborock that I'm getting and the ecovacs X1 probably have just as much and probably have better battery life. I've heard that when you run the S9 on the max setting, the battery goes really quick, and for some reason Irobot does not put very large batteries in their robots. Still waiting for the Roborock S7 Max V to ship, even though it won't have the auto empty or auto wash feature yet, I think I'm really going to enjoy it, this will be my first Roborock.
Great comparison. Touched on some things many other people did not. I ended up going for the S7 MaxV Ultra for many of the same things you mentioned. Very happy with it and can say it truly is autonomous.
I enjoy all your reviews! This is the comparision video I've been waiting for. I ended up buying an S7 and ilife 450 last black Friday because of your videos. I was concerned it would scratch my floors but went for it! Glad it was discounted! I think it is a bit unfair that you have to pay for the robot mop/vacuums since you provide quality reviews. They should make a commission program for those that review vacuums. It's underrated work and honestly these reviews change people's lives. You help people make informed decisions! Thanks for all you do!!
I'm looking forward to getting the Roborock in the next couple of months. I've seen some clever garages that people have built to hide the base. My laundry room includes a closet that houses our router and network connections, so it has electricity. I'm going to cut off the bottom few inches off the door so the Roborock can sit inside the closet but have free access to come out when scheduled. Because this is my laundry room, I don't care about the odd look of the short door. The benefit will be getting the large base out of the room and out of sight.
@@MrRoombato It is the least I can do, expressing my appreciation. You deserve to be on the top of the list for thorough and honest reviewer for robotic vacuum cleaners and whatever else you fancy to review. 👌 . Thank you again.
Hi Bro, thanks much for putting up the comparison and recommendation!! I was impressed by the S7 Max lifting mop pad as well and considerring to purchase one for my mom as her 55th birthday gift , I believe she will love it sooo much lol~
My biggest issue with these are the dusbags actually. I hate that steep reocurring cost that you have to dump into these. first party bags are expensive, and 3rd party bags are hit and miss. If one of them came along and made a bagless dustbin that I just have to empty out and rinse once in a while I'd be more inclined to buy the product.
Roborock makes one for the S7 MaxV, but it won't wash the mop or fill the water tank. I love the dust bags. They last a very long time and are actually very cheap (at least most of them...some are pricey!!).
@@MrRoombato yeah, bags are the way to go. After having bagless, and family and friends having bagless, they just seems to be messier, harder to clean, and bagless equipment never seems to be up to par with vacuums that take bags. There's many reasons but I won't go into more detail. You should buy this because it has bags.
I have a Roborock S7 and I really like its sonic mopping and mop lifting function! ! ! I have a carpet in the living room, I used to use other brands' vacuums, which would always get stuck on it or wet the carpet, and the mopping was not clean enough. Since I got the S7, the floor of my house is very clean every day, and my girlfriend never quarrels with me about cleaning. The S7's VibraRise mop lifts when a carpet is detected, so you can mop hard floors and vacuum carpets in a single clean. It also raises when cleaning is finished to avoid spreading dirt, and when docked so you can say goodbye to ugly plastic mats and dirty streaks. The S7MaxV has the same sonic mopping and mop lifting function as its S7! Roborock really frees our hands!!!!!!!
I saw that G10s pro is cheaper in comparison to S7 maxv ultra, do you happen to know if it has less features? I also saw reports that it had video calling which is not something I really need from a vacuum but I can understand the use case for pet owners
LOL man i had a good laugh going through the comments reading your answers. Amazing dedication for your replies and awesome and honest comparison of these, fully agree with your conclusion. Im surprised i hadnt got you on my robovacs youtubers list, until now :)
thanks for your in depth video! wow super helpful! in my country the roborock s7 maxv is only available without the ultra dock. i have no clue how long it will take until the dock becomes available. How well does the roborock s7 work without its dock? can it do a full vacume and wash using its own built in tanks for a 150 sq meter sized house without needing to empty the tanks? Lastly, have you tried the yeedi mop station and how would you compare that with these, since its much cheaper. im aware the navigation experience is much less advanced, but curious more about the quality of the cleaning. we dont have carpets in our house, so i wouldnt need to be removing the mopping pads. even if you do use a carpet sometimes, im ok with removing the mop pads once or twice a week to vacume the carpets.
I wouldn't buy anything with vslam unless it was very, very inexpensive. As for the roborock, I'd wait until the ultra dock. In the US it comes out in early may. Don't know about in your country, but if it robot itself came out at the same time (April 8), then maybe this will too.
Thanks for calling out smart robot reviews! I saw her yeedi review and liked it but now from watching your video here I subscribed and liked what I saw
I went with Roborock many years ago and had most the odd numbered S models, (3, 5 & 7: the odd numbers not intentional lol) I have been extremely happy with every purchase. The autowashing pad looks like an awesome upgrade that I am missing at the moment. I say it looks a bit clunky in comparison to the regular S7 model thou. Over the years they've just keep getting better and better and I would be pretty excited to see the next step in innovation such as the water hookups you mention.
Hello Mr.Roombato, thank you for this fantastic review. I'll be happy to get your(and everyone else) opinion. which will be better choice? Ecovacs X1 OMNI or Dreame W10 PRO (with the camera)? Please notice to compare to dreame w10 PRO model and not just w10. Cant wait to get your opinion(s). Thanks
I have no experience with the Dreame W10 Pro. But assuming their obstacle avoidance works as well as that of Ecovacs, it depends what your priorities are. Mopping? W10 Pro. Vacuuming? X1 OMNI. Not that the W10 is in any way worse at vacuuming (it's probably a bit better), it's just that it doesn't empty itself.
@@MrRoombato Thank you for the fast reply. you are the best. I decided to go with the Dreame L10s Ultra, after i saw your last review+comparison with roborock s7 vmax ultra and ecovacs x1 omni. You reviews are the best. again 10x for the fast reply.
Thanks for the shout out for Natalie! Very good video! I have my review of the S7 MaxV out in a few days. Theifting mop pad on the S7 series makes it very smart for people with carpets and rugs. My carpet sensor broke on the W10 btw.
Did you make a video at some point showing how you clean and maintain your MaxV Ultra dock? I can’t seem to find it for the life of me and there aren’t any other videos that showcase that aspect of the Ultra ownership
I have contacted Roborock itself and all major companies in the Netherlands that sell Roborock. Nobody knows if and when the Ultra will be available in the Netherlands. So now I have ordered it in Germany and have it delivered to friends there. Have inquired about warranty and that is no problem. Next Saturday I will go to them and then I will finally have my Rocky!🤗 Thank you for everything 😘
Hi,thank you so much for the sharing. I really want to place an order , but I can not find any where I can buy it. Do you know when it will be available in US?
If you're talking about the S7 MaxV Ultra, the S7 MaxV is out now and you can get it on Amazon, but the Ultra dock will only be out in early May. Here is a link for the robot itself (you can buy the dock separately: amzn.to/3Esu3ZT
This is a great video and helped me decide on the Roborock after watching it. But then I recently heard there's going to be a new Dreame L10s ultra which seems to combine the best of Roborock/Ecovacs.. Lifting the mop while on carpet, spinning mops (somehow I feel spinning cleans better!), drying the mop after cleaning it, etc. It also seems to solve some of the W10 issues mentioned in this video. I'm just hesitant to pre-order as I haven't seen much in terms of reviews yet. Curious if you've researched it and what your thoughts are.
So first, spinning mops are NOT an advantage. The Roborock's vibrating pad outperformed every spinning pad I've tested it against. That said, every implementation is different, and Dreame has always been solid for me, so I'm looking forward to testing the L10S.
You just get yourself a subscriber because of this in depth comparisons tour video. Will be waiting for your next cleaning performance videos from thes two main competitors. I'm planning to addd/upgrade my current main robot which is T8 AIVI to S7 MaxV Ultra as well as my first Roborock. I have other robots in my house for each diffetent rooms and they are Dreame F9, Deebot U3 Line, Yeedi 2 Hybrid, Deebot 950 (retiring it as it always move in circle motion) and Roidmi EVE Plus. All robots from Ecovacs app wise are very lacking of the basic features compared to Xiaomi collaborated brands. Thus planning to get my first Roborock which known for their superbs navigation and features. Looking forward to your upcoming comparison videos.
@@MrRoombato That's what I heard from people and reviewers on UA-cam. Keen to find it out on my own. Ecovacs app features are very limited. Can't wait to see your comparison of Omni X1 & S7 Ultra 😆
Thanks so much for this I wasn’t aware that the one doesn’t carry the water and I was looking at that because it dries but I like the fact of the other has on board water better
I wouldn't worry about that to be honest. The only downside is if you have a large house and it's cleaning something far from the base, it will have to make many back and forth trips. The on-board tank is a big advantage but I'm not sure how much you'd notice it in real life unless you have a huge house.
The Dreame W10 is probably best for wet pickup, but I really wouldn't rely on any of them for that. I'd get a wet/dry floor cleaner like the Roborock Dyad.
Thanks for the awesome video! Two quick questions about the roborock. How loud is the self-empting? I had the J7+ but we had to return it because my wife could not stand how loud the self-empting was. And, do you have any concern about the all silicone brush scratching hardwood floors? Thanks again!
It's not as loud as the j7 (not that you can tell without a decibel meter) but it lasts longer. I don't know of any quiet self-empty docks. So if your wife doesn't like the noise, then she has to be the one to empty the bin every day! :) As for the brush, no, because it doesn't make contact. The only part of that housing that makes contact is the silicone squeegee thing in the back, which you should wipe down periodically. I have a recent video in which I did a scratch test on plexiglass and it didn't leave a mark.
I mean the hole is wide and you need high suction to suck that out and the brush is also running to remove it sooo it may be louder but noise may be different
Hi Mr. Roombato. Thank you so much for this explanation. Are you able to take a photo of the "faulty" mopping plate? It'll be interesting to see the differences between this and the "fixed" one, because i heard of that issue also in some forums.
I got my new Roborock S7 Max V. Depending on the price, I may get the emptying and washing dock whenever it is released. Even without that, this robot is excellent. I'm not sure which one cleans better, the Roborock or the Roomba J7 which I also recently got. The Roborock definitely has more suction and airflow I think. One thing I like about the Roborock is that it speaks all of the messages. Since I can't see to read a screen, this is very helpful. The app also works well with the screen reader built in to the iphone. Unfortunately there is no way I can divide rooms since you need sight for that but I usually clean the entire apartment at once anyway. I'm still trying to decide if I want to get an Ecovacs bot and I'm also looking at the Neabot Q11. This is my first Roborock bot and I definitely understand why they get such good reviews now.
@@MrRoombato I have seen some videos that are making me have second thoughts about getting the Ecovacs X1, I have all hard floors so the fact that it won't vacuum carpets with the mop attached isn't an issue but one video showed it having problems returning to the dock and it just seems kind of buggy still. I have not had a single issue with the Roborock S7 Max V, the opening to empty the bin is a bit small and I do have to pull some of the hair out manually but I can live with that for now until I decide which dock to get, if any. I think Roborock has produced one of the best, if not the best robot vacuum available.
@@mikearrigo5674 It is a bit buggy but mine has never had a problem returning to the dock. If you have to pull stuff out of the roborock's dust bin, your dock may be defective. I actually had a defective dock that emptied poorly and then stopped completely. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Roborock sent me a new dock and it's been perfect ever since. I do sometimes find tiny pieces of dog hair stuck to the filter but they're gone by next cleaning. The dock works very well. If you have the S7 MaxV, wait for the ultra dock. There is zero reason at this point to consider anything else. You have the best machine on the market.
@@MrRoombato I don't have any dock at this point so I have to empty the bin myself, most of the dirt dumps out but some hair remains and I have to pull that out manually. I'm also considering getting one of the Dreametech bots, but I can't decide between the Z10 and the L10, I'm trying to find out if there are any other differences besides the Z10's self emptying dock, they both have the same power and seem to have the same navigation.
@@mikearrigo5674 All I can tell you is that the Z10's self empty dock is excellent. But...why are you not keeping the Roborock? Get the Ultra dock when it comes out and don't look back.
Hi, What's the difference between the s7, s7+ and the s7 maxv ultra? Because the pricing her in Australia is a big difference between them all. Also if I was to buy the s7 could I buy the bin for it later? Thank you for your videos , I really enjoyed and appreciated the effort you put into your work.
The S7 is a completely different robot from the S7 MaxV. The S7+ is the package of that robot and the self-empty dock, just like the S7 MaxV is the package of that robot and the Ultra dock that you see in my video. The S7 doesn't have the AI object avoidance that the S7 MaxV has and cannot interface with the Ultra dock.
Does Roborock have a vacuum only and wash only settings that will avoid carpet, is that something that can be done with a firmware update? Thank you for the vid.
Im going to buy the S7MaxV next week. Im really struggling to decide for the + or the ultra version. We have mostly hardfloor with some carpets and our hallway is tiles. We normally mop our floors once a week, but i dont know if i would «miss» doing it more often when i get a robovac. What is your recommendation?
Thanks for the review. Because you also have animals, I value your opinion very much. I have 3 dogs (look like Bernese Mountain Dogs, so many and semi-long hairs) per dog I count on 1 vacuuming round per day. Now I want to buy a robot vacuum cleaner (never had one before) and doubt between these 2. I only have vinyl without carpet. Removing brushes is therefore not necessary. Disadvantage Ecovacs: Built-in reservoir, limescale. Can the Ecovacs withstand descaling (e.g. Vinegar)? Benefit: Voice activated, appearance. Disadvantage Roborock: Cleaning brush for mop (seems to get dirty quickly) What is the track record of both businesses? Is the Ecovacs small reservoir a drawback or does it not make a difference? This video is from 2 weeks ago, what is your experience now with the Ecovacs? Trustworthy? Better, Worse, still the same as the Roborock? Which one do you recommend for me? Thanks in advance for your response.
I think you would be fine with either, to be honest. Both are voice controlled. Roborock has excellent google/alexa integration, but of course you will need one of those in your house, and you don't need one with the Ecovacs. The mopping pad on the Roborock works really well, so no need to worry about that. The Ecovacs can vacuum and mop at the same time, the Roborock can too, but it's bad ad it. It makes wide turns and leaves narrow strips of poorly mopped floor. It has a deep mopping mode that mops phenomenally, but as of yet, you can't do that while vacuuming (that may change with firmware). You can tell it to make two passes, which will address that issue. Since you don't have carpet, my only hesitation in recommending the Ecovacs is that it has water flow issues and mops very poorly. Ecovacs is sending people new mopping plates to fix that, but I don't know if that will completely fix the issue since I haven't gotten mine yet. As far as which company is better at addressing their issues, in my experience that is definitely Roborock. Ecovacs is definitely trustworthy and has good customer support, but they are not as good as Roborock at addressing problems in their app and elsewhere. At least they haven't been so far.
Thank you so much for your information about vacuuming and mopping at the same time, this is an important point for me because he already has to clean 3 times a day, doubling this means the robot is busy all day. I thought Roborock could do this too, so thank you so much for this information. Roborock only has US support, Ecovacs also per country. Roborock responded to my email very quickly, I have not yet received an answer to my email from Ecovacs, but I was able to call them and in my own language. Currently Ecocacs is already available here, Roborock is not. For me, the Ecovacs is now preferred. Pros Ecovacs: appearance, voice control, vacuuming / mopping in one go, no brush in cleaning station. Cons: The mobs may need to be replaced, small and inaccessible water reservoir. Pros Roborock: Many think it is a reliable robot, many good reviews. Cons: appearance, speech recognition only via google or alexa, can't vacuum and mop good at the same time, cleaning brush in base station. I find it all difficult, especially because it will be my first robot and I can't view/test them somewhere myself, especially with the price, not something to just buy quickly.
@@spidersontheweb Michelle, I can't guarantee that the new plates will do anything to fix the problem with the water flow. And if they can't fix it, it's going to continue to be a terrible mop. My advice is to wait just a little until I or someone else gets the plates and tests them. You can email me in a week or so at mrroombato at gmail to get an update.
@@spidersontheweb I've seen tons of Ecovacs issues. The app still remains to be buggy. The Roborock doesn't have a buggy app. The Ecovacs has trouble climbing up on its dock, but that could be tough luck. Your experience could vary. From the reviews, the Obstacle Avoidance on the Roborock seems to be better than the Ecovacs. 2in height minimum on x1 compared to 1.1 in height on s7 maxv, based on the manufacturer's claims. Maybe in the future, an update will come where the Roborock has a built-in voice assistant, as it does have an onboard mic I believe. While Ecovacs is a big brand, they do bribe their amazon customers which isn't the case for the Roborock. You may want to give a chance with the S7 MaxV. Roborock definitely appears to have the better track record compared to Ecovacs, as far as I can tell.
Just came across your channel. Great video. Looks like there’s currently a presale here in Aus for Roborock s7 max v. Not sure if you can answer this but is it likely to be more cost effective to wait for the complete bundle (roborock s7 maxv with ultradock), or will the total cost be the same irrespective of whether I buy the unit on its own now and the dock later?
last year when they released first the S7 and then the auto dock the combo was exactly the same price as separate, so i hardly doubt they will do any promo
if mopping is more of a "nice to have" would you still recommend the S7 MaxV Ultra for its vacuum features? I need the advanced features of a smart map app based vacuum to navigate around furniture and stuff left on the floor, self emptying etc.. So would you recommend something else in my particular case (ignoring price)
Ignoring price, I would still recommend the Roborock. Or maybe the X1 OMNI, since its mopping isn't as good but you said mopping is just a "nice to have." I have yet to conduct head to head test, but I suspect that the X1 is a *slightly* better hard floor cleaner, though its navigation is wonky enough that I'd probably still get the Roborock.
@@MrRoombato Navigation quality is a top priority so I think I will stick with the Roborock based on your advice so thanks! The dining table has a gently sloping pedestal base that no vacuum has successfully avoided properly and hoping the S7 can do it automatically. To me the difference in price between the plus and ultra base is close enough that just going with the ultra even for occasional mopping makes more sense so I will wait for that to be released.
@@vilago5 I also thought mopping was just a nice extra until I got a good mopping robot, and now I can't live without it. You've made the right decision!
Loved your comparisons. Practical aspects of these things are covered nowhere else. I'm just curious how would these compare against the new Dreame L10.
@@MrRoombato Hi Mike, any planned date when the review will be posted? Highly value your opinion. Trying to decide if L10S can match S7+ with W450. I am worried about the water not coming out issues with the L10S dock and the parts quality of the robot.
@@MaxAirGo My review sample of the L10S had a defective dock. Water wouldn't come out at all. So they are sending me a new one. This happens, btw, so I wouldn't be concerned. They had to replace my Roborock Ultra dock as well, for a different issue.
@@MrRoombato That is just sad. Some people had to do self repair 10+ times others sucked on the water release nipple on the dock. What was the issue with RR Ultra dock?
I only have hard wood floors wide plank with 1/2 inch grooves .which would you recommend ? I had the ecovacs T8 avi that eventually broke and did a decent job .
I can't recommend the X1 OMNI at the moment because they have yet to solve its mopping issues. I think they will, but until they do...it's between the other two, depending on how much you want to spend.
Can you review the new Roidmi Eva? (Not to be confused with Roidmi Eve Plus) Feels like it's a similar concept to roborock s7 maxv ultra, but for almost half the price!
Hey Mr. Roombato, I really appreciate your honest review. It's very useful. I'm thinking about upgrading my vacuum robot with one of these little beasts but the difference in price in my country is even higher now for the roborock and ecovacs compared with dreame w10. Dreame can be found for 660€, roborock for more than 1000€ and ecovacs 1000€. So considering this factor, the dreame would be the clear winner, right? Thanks again
It depends on what you need. There are two downsides with the Dreame...no object avoidance (although they have a model with AI too) and no self empty dock. You will have to empty the dust bin every day (or however often it goes out to vacuum). So if not having to do that is worth 500 Euro then yes, the Dreame is the clear winner.
@@MrRoombato I really appreciate your answer mate. For me it's no problem to empty the dust bin. And the other inconvenience it's a bit problematic because I usually have some cables around but I guess I can limit with the app the zone/s to clean/mop, right? Thanks!
Hi! Another kid from 80s here!😁 I tried S7 MaxV and T9 AIVI, well Ozmo Pro performs better than Vibra Rise on stubborn stains. What do you think about it? Is my S7 MaxV faulty or is that true?
I can't really tell you. I have the pro-mop thing for my T8 AIVI and it's never worked that well. The Roborock's "sonic" mop, on the other hand, is the best robot mop I have.
Honestly, with Ecovacs and Roborock offering something new like Obstacle avoidance, self-cleaning and self-emptying in one unit but irobot doesn't, I have a feeling that irobot is too complacent and too comfortable for being on the top of the market for so long that they not only rarely doing their research and development, but also relying too much on marketing and dual brush patent. And it's more expensive, from where I live, the latest Roomba J7+ cost as much as the latest Deebot X1 Omni, but with less features. 1440 Dollars for Roomba J7+ to 1390 Dollars for Deebot X1 Omni.
Not yet, and I doubt there will be. From my perspective, you don't pay over 1000 thousand dollars for something and then have to dump disgusting dust bins and get much of that dust back into the air and your house. But to each their own!
Thats why i love dyson. You just pick whole dustbin, press a button and everything just falls in the trash. 0 effort and really clean. It shouldnt be hard to incorporate something like that into charging station.
I have 5 kids who often drop cereal and crumbs and track clumps of mud and every other messy thing that kids do. I also have 85% hardwood flooring. How do these units tackle that kind of job? Will they vacuum up the crumbs and cereal etc during the mopping session (simultaneously) or would the unit need to do a full vacuum cycle and then do a mopping cycle afterwards? Thanks in advance to whomever offers an answer!
@@MrRoombato I do because I’m deep in the ecosystem and don’t trust Google or Alexa inside my home but I’m also very Apple biased. Being an iOS Engineer since the AppStore opened also makes it hard for me to trust any other product 🤷♂️.
Hi there! I have recently found all your reviews and it's been a real life saver considering I was just about to spend 2k on a vacuum. 😬 I have pretty uneven slate floors so the mop features would be almost useless unless it was the scrubbing ones I am assuming. Would you have a recommendation For a basic robot vac, doesn't need any of the latest features, I have some carpet and 2 kids, but majority is slate and it's a pretty big area, not really a lot of places to get stuck.
Hi again Mr Roombato Can you confirm that the robot (deboot x1) has got his own water tank onboard? Because a lot of people think that it hasn't got one, but as i can see on your video and an other one, there is one, not movable, but it is there ! I can see holes under the plates on the robot, and i can see that the plates have holes allowing the water to wet the mopping pads. By the way, which part have an issue? The plates or the mopping pads? Maybe the holes of the plate arent well placed? Thanks again
Yes, it has one. I think it's 70 or 80ml. The plates are the things with the issue, according to Ecovacs. I haven't received my new plates yet so I can't confirm.
@@MrRoombato ho ok! Thank you very much for your confirmation ! For the issue, maybe the holes of the plates are not in line with the hole of the robot (where the water comes from). You could check this? To look if you can see the hole of the robor through the hole of the plate (sorry if my english is not perfect)
@@MrRoombato hello again! It seems i have the issue, i have contacted the support in france but they seem not to understand what i am talking about. I can't find the chat in the app, could you help me? Thank you!
@@GPR34410 Chat is in settings, under help. They don't know what you mean about the poor water flow? Tell them that it means that not enough water is coming out. :)
All of them. :) I haven't tested the X1 OMNI's mopping capability. But between the S7 MaxV and Dreame W10, they are both excellent at mopping, but the Roborock can only mop at its best when set to mop only. So if you want best results, send it out to vacuum and then as a separate task, mop. If you do this with scheduling than it doesn't matter. If you like to send them manually, it's annoying. But not as annoying as emptying a dust bin. So it's up to you. The X1 has the ability to solve both of these problems, and since the new mopping plates fixed its water flow issue, it should be good to go. But like I said, I haven't tested/compared it yet.
How does the performance of a rotating mop compares with the ultrasonic mop from roborock? I would think a rotating mop would perform better, just because it has a larger surface area which are fast moving.
It doesn't perform better at all, they are about the same, but the rotating pads do cover a wider area and so the Roborock needs to make tighter turns to mop as effectively. In the end, that doesn't matter, only results matter.
@@MrRoombato Thanks for clarifying! I have always preferred Roborock for their vacuum bots and was dithering between Roborock and Ecovacs. Based on this information, I think Roborock is still the way to go then!
I currently need an upgrade from my Shark IQ Robot vacuum. Over the years, the biggest problem for the Shark has been the insane volume of hair kindly distributed around the house by my Siberian husky. Currently (without the Shark because it hasn't been working well anymore unless I clean the roller brush daily) I'm having to vacuum every day. I think it may help to find a vacuum with a larger dust bag to hold more hair. Do you know which of these robot vacuums has a larger volume dust collection bag?
The W10 doesn't empty itself, so it will be fine, if you don't mind that. The Roborock's self-empty system is not very robust and will get clogged. I recommend the Dreame L10S for what you want.
@@MrRoombato Oh wow, I've never heard of that one. It seems very similar to the Roborock with the lifting mop feature. Sorry, one more question: I'm now thinking of getting 2 machines, one for vacuuming and one for mopping. This would ideally allow for a larger dust bag for the vacuuming of dog hair. Do you have any recommendations if I were to go this route? Thanks so much for the answers! Subscribed!
How much better is this than the s9+ combo from Roomba? I like Roomba because it’s easy to hook into home automation. What’s so different about these models, and do they sacrifice connectivity/ease of use?
Compared to the Roborock...it sacrifices nothing, fits in just as well with home automation and is better in every way. iRobot is better in only one way...marketing. The s9/m6 combo is terrible and you will hate it. My s9 was returned and my m6 is in a closet somewhere. Speaking of, I should probably put it on ebay.
@@MrRoombato what are the things that you hate about the m6 other than it effectively can't climb floor boundaries (despite having a thresholds feature)?
@@123Osaka456 That's the only thing I hate about it. But there are things I don't like. I am now spoiled by robots that clean their own mop pads, so I don't like changing the one on the m6 every time it cleans. I also don't like its navigation, or how long it takes to clean.
Great video and comparison, thanks! I mentioned on another persons video… I’ve had the ECOVACS X1 Omni since March 26th, purchased through Amazon, and I have to say for a $1,400 robot vacuum, I’m disappointed… the obstacle avoidance doesn’t work with cables or socks (mine sucked up both on several occasions). The robot returned to the station mid cleaning twice so far, saying can’t reach/find area. Even after I literally cleared my whole first floor when doing initial mapping, and moved furniture that is usually stationary to ensure the best mapping possible. While I love the dual side brushes, getting more coverage, my biggest issue is that the deep cleaning is not great on high pile carpet. I noticed it can’t pick up little yarn/string or debris that’s embedded (clinging) to carpet. The mopping is good, especially when you spray down Bona cleaner on the floors prior to running. Finally, I don’t like that I can’t do mopping only, and can’t imagine this thing will do well after sucking up big liquid spills. I honestly wanted to love the X1 bc of the dual side brushes and two-in-one mopping, but I am very disappointed given the hefty price tag. Feels like I’m paying for features that don’t work as a premium robot vacuum should. How is the roborock on carpet in your opinion, or which would you recommend besides Roomba for deep cleaning carpet/rugs?
I'm sorry, but I don't have a way to test deep cleaning yet. I tried putting chia seeds way on the bottom of the carpet fibers but nothing I've tested can get them out, so that's not a viable approach. I haven't done a full carpet test on the Roborock yet, that's the plan for tomorrow or Friday, but from preliminary tests, it seems to do a good job. But then so does the X1 OMNI. The most important thing to understand is that none of these robots are perfect. Each one is going to be deficient in some way. If you get a different robot, you will be trading one deficiency for another. That said, I prefer the Roborock to the X1 OMNI, but I would be very happy with the X1 also.
@@MrRoombato I’ll definitely keep a look out for your tests. Good to know, I think my plan is to return the X1 and give the Roborock a shot…. I did forget to mention, I also really like the drying feature of the X1’s mopping pads. I know the Roborock G10S Pro in China has heating element, in addition to connections for auto filling tanks and even draining into your plumbing. Of course they had to release an even more premium version that’s not available in the USA, when the S7 MaxV hasn’t even hit the market 🤦🏻♂️… here’s hoping the S7 MaxV is slightly better with suction/vacuuming
I had the same experience with the T9+. Obstacle avoidance is shoddy, app is also poorly developed and the robot cant seem to navigate home properly. When it works, its stellar, but when it doesnt, its super frustrating.
@@MrRoombato Question- I noticed when setting up the app, it’s asks if I have a “Home with pets” with a disclaimer that the “robot will move in a way that improves obstacle recognition but may slightly reduce cleaning efficiency”. Does it really impact how it cleans if I choose yes? I have two long-haired Siberian cats, and honestly don’t mind if the robot gently rams them (teach them to move), if it means it will do a better job cleaning. Should I not select home with pets? I really just want it to do a good job avoiding cables, socks, etc.
What do you think about using the iRobot Roomba i3+ & the Roomba braava m6 mop together? Will it be better than the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, considering that both are made for one specific thing?
Not in the slightest. Assuming the M6 can move around your house (it usually can't), it's a good mop, but it will require constant attention. Even if you're comfortable with leaving the same dirty pad on it, it will run out of water quickly and you will need to fill up every time you use it (unless you live in a tiny apartment). It also doesn't do as good a job as the S7 MaxV Ultra (although it's close) and takes much longer. The i3 cleans fairly well but takes much much longer and can't clean at night.
@@MrRoombato Before you replied, I bought the Roomba i3+ With the M6 Mop and used it for a week before returning it. The mop could only clean my living room and ran out of water. Returned it and bought the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, which is way way better and quicker!!! The price was also similar in Australia. Thanks again.
Thanks for the video :) I was almost sold on the Omni - until I realized the mop pad didn’t lift. What a MASSIVE let down. I would have to put them on and off several times a week… fail!
@@MrRoombato got the roborock saved on Amazon - waiting for a sale. $2600 in Aus is too steep. Has anyone ever dived into privacy policy etc. it’s mildly concerning a Chinese company potentially has unrestricted access to your entire house visually, layout, images, dimensions, audio etc. failing that if they are hacked and a third party gains access to the mics etc… have a look at what just happened to our second largest telco Optus data breach (google)… I mean I have that many Alexa’s around the house. Apple and Amazon could data track every time I take a shit, but perhaps more trustworthy then a Chinese robotics company that has 24/7 access to your house - and hoping they don’t get hacked. No doubt this thing has a gps module for location data.
wish theyd give them all 2 front brushes, cant even count the amount of times the second brush has caught something on my other vacs.. to me it just looks like its missing on every other vac now..
I have a question, Do these robotic vacuums have an option to not clean on hardwood? I've heard that water is bad for cleaning hardwood with so I wouldn't want them to do that.
You can have them clean or not clean anywhere you want, as specified in the map that the create (which is extremely precise). But what you heard is wrong. My hardwood floors are 40 years old and very weathered and poorly sealed (wearing through the finish). And I have robots mopping them every day. There is no damage of any kind. They just don't use enough water to damage anything.
Thank you for the comparison video. I am trying to decide if it would be cheaper to get it now and purchase the dock later or wait until the combo gets released. At the 40 second mark of the video, you mentioned that they will be offering the Roborock MaxV Ultra (with the fancy dock) for about $1,300. Is that confirmed?
1399 will be the retail price. They mentioned something about a coupon at launch, but I can't confirm that. They had one for the S7 MaxV itself, so it will probably be similar.
Hi crack!!! Which one cleans the corners better? I was thinking that the roborock as it doesn't clean the corners and angles of the walls well because it doesn't clean the corners and angles of the walls very well. That already happens to me with my current roborock s6.
@@MrRoombato The crack in Spain is someone who is as impressive in his work as Messi is in football. Ok, I was hoping that the Dreame W10 being square would reach the corners better. And for the edges? Is the roborock efficient? According to my experience, the mops it comes with don't clean the part that's stuck to the wall well either.
@@rubentdelgado5343 Okay, then I will be The Crack! Yeah, that's actually a disadvantage of the S7's mopping system that I didn't elaborate on. It does not reach edges. But the problem with most of these robots isn't that they can't reach corners or edges, it's that they don't follow walls and corners very well. So it's not really a difference you would notice.
Another question 🙈 How much spase does the Roborock need to get in/out of its dock? The spot i have in mind (if the dock is 20 inches deep) 31,5 inches of space left, is that enough?
You mean there would be an obstruction 11.5" past the entrance of the dock, in front of it? No, that would not be enough room. Or is the obstruction on the side?
@@MrRoombato The total width of the space is 51.5 inches, I was told the dock is 20 inches deep, leaving 31.5 inches for the robot to drive in and out, is that enough space?
Does the roborock leave water on anything other than very low pile carpet? I have a lot of carpet and not much hard floor like 70/30% carpet/hard floor and we have dogs and cats. What would you say of these three would be best?
It shouldn't leave water on any carpet, except perhaps very high pile. The last part of your question got cut off. btw...if you run your hand over it the second it passes over the carpet, you may pick up some wetness from contacting the irregular surface with the raised pad, but that's gone in seconds.
I own Ecovacs X1 OMNI. It's good. It's smart. I've compared to other robots, still prefer X1 OMNI. It cannot lift its mops - It's the only major cons IMO.
It's also really bad at mopping compared to just about any other mopping robot. The only robots it beats at mopping are the kind that drag wet pads behind them (your typical budget robot vacuum and "mop."
It seems that Roborock is doing the same thing they did with the s7. Many people got the s7 and auto empty dock separately because that is how it was sold. But as soon as Roborock bundled the two the bundle went on sale. And people could not get the price match. Looking at the s7maxv I am starting to see a similar issue. I got the robot and love it. cant wait until the second when the dock comes out. But Roborock is selling the bundle. With the h7 just thrown in there as a sale for a bit. I don't need a new stick vac but it is kind of disappointing to see the cycle repeat itself. Buying the s7maxv when it first came out all of us got 90$ off and that is all. When the people who get the bundle essentially get 400 dollars off. I am not too affected by this but I feel people will be mad
Thanks for your statement...👍👍.....the dreame w10 is perfect for me....so i am in a one person appartement! I like the white design from W10 more than the others. Ecovacs have always problems with the software and for that price it should be perfect but it isn't! So the Deebot T9 Aivi with the mopping Tool was a unfinished expensive Robot...with many bugs!!! I never have any problems with Xiaomi or Roborock products!!! In Switzerland you can buy the W10 for 770 USD.....😁😁
I have two cats and was considering buying a robot vacuum to relief myself from vacuuming every single day. Was considering the Dreame W10 because of its solid performance for its price. However, due to the Dreame W10 lacking obstacle avoidance, will it just bump into my cats if they are sleeping on the floor?
Yes, but you actually want that. Cats are arrogant, indolent creatures and will interfere with the robot out of spite. The faster it rams them the better! Unfortunately the W10 will slow down before crashing into your cats. The best was the iRobot Braava Jet M6, which rolled right up to my cat and then sprayed him right in the face with water! I loved every second of it. Too bad it was a terrible robot, or it would still be in service for that reason alone.
My family had the original Roomba (2002) and we thought it was the COOLEST thing ever but it had TONS of problems... The stupid laser things to block off areas sucked, it was running into everything and getting stuck all the time, and it generally didn't vacuum that well.... It was CRAZY new at the time though and was honestly like 10+ years ahead of it's time. I just got a "modern" robot vacuum and it is insane how advanced they are in comparison. And it wouldn't have happened without the mapping/lidar/etc. technology we have now which was itself driven by the needs of the autonomous car industry. I honestly thought we should've had vaccum robots like the s7 years ago but it makes sense why they took so long to get this advanced.
Great comparison. I was waiting for this and this is very helpful. Basic question: will the upcoming upgrades from the roborock (plus and ultra docks) going to improve the experience? And increase the cost too much? (Nice touch with the channel suggestion!)
I think the ultra dock is a must have. You cannot exist on the Earth and not have it. :) Okay, it's not THAT dramatic. But if you have the S7 MaxV, you need the Ultra dock. Sell a kidney, send your 4 year old to the factory to work the night shift. Whatever it takes. :)
Update: Roborock is in! He's been doing his job great since Tuesday and can't miss him anymore! What a fantastic device! No voice control is no problem at all because the app is super easy and I regularly want to have different zones clean. Thank you so much for recommending Roborock to me, it was indeed the best choice for me!
@@MrRoombato I know. I wanted the Omni for voice control, appearance and spinning mobs. You said that Roborock has voice control via Google, that it was possible that Omni mobs mobs did not work well, I contacted both companies, Roborock always answered within a day, I am still waiting for an answer on Ecovacs, so I chose Roborock! Because the app is so extremely easy, I don't need voice control (maybe later, if I wand). In real life I think the base looks much tighter and therefore nicer than I thought. I need reliability and that's Roborock!
I was about to purchase s7 maxv ultra but then decided to wait. Roborock will release the new robot with the dock has the exact same features as this one, plus it can dry the mopping pads, and it connects to water plumb, so users dont have to change or dump dirty water anymore 😂 bad news is they will release it in China in June, so we have to wait for around 6 months for international version
I think so, yes. As for your question, I can't really answer it, because it can clean my entire main floor on just its internal water tank and still have water left over. The limiting factor there will be how often you want it to go back and clean the pad, which will be a lot more often than it needs water.
Of course I will! Anything for my viewers. :) You have to start a UA-cam channel about robot vacuums and you have to get enough people to watch it for them to give a crap when you ask them for review samples! :)
@@lukestar401 As far as I know, yes. The ones they sent to reviewers were already in full retail packaging, so as far as I'm aware, they've been sitting in warehouses and ready to ship.
@@MrRoombato Unless something has recently changed there is no release date for the Ultra dock. On the 8th you can buy the S7 MaxV or the combo with the Auto Empty Dock. MSRP: S7MaxV: $859.99 S7MaxV+: $1159.99
Excellent review. Thank you. I have not seen the Roborock available anywhere yet. It would be nice if they gave it a less confusing name that wasn't so similar to other models. In my experience with robot vacs, the Roborocks have been the most trouble-free and efficient. I've been using the S4 - don't know whether it's "Max" or not. Another one with the long names. And it is much better than the Roomba i8 (Costco i7) which is so bad at navigation it's painful to watch. And it (Roomba) is loud. Perhaps I will hold out until Black Friday to consider the Roborock S7 whatever vacuum purchase. The kinks will be worked out and maybe the price will come down a bit.
Whatever you do, use my affiliate links. I just set the system up (what can I say, I'm slow and dumb) and I like seeing the little (very little) numbers go up!
I'm waiting on the roborock for at least half year already. They released it in China long ago and still not available in Australia. The Chinese version is also way cheaper...
I am a current owner of the omni, it is a very good machine, however I am selling it and buying the Roborock. The reason is what he refers to around the seven minute mark. The Roborock will vacuum and mop a hard floor, then when it comes to a rug, lift up the mopping pad, vaccum the rug, and when done and off the other side, re-deploy the mop and continue vacuum and mopping the hard floors. With my Omni, I have to run it in vacuum mode, then when it is finished, install the mopping pads and run it a SECOND time. Maybe it’s no big deal to most, but if I am spending this much money I want all the perks I can get. So, from an Omni owner… I’m getting rid of it and buying the Roborock.
All they really need is the ability to turn off carpet detection. As little water as that robot puts down, it won't really matter if it "mops" the carpet.
Hello, why dont you make the opposit? First run a mopping mode, it will vaccum and mop all the hardfloors, and when finish, run a vaccum mode only on the rugs? By creating area on the rugs. No?
@@GPR34410 Yes, you can totally do that. But I don't like to be involved in the process. My robots clean at night while I sleep. I only touch them to dump/fill the tangs, and on rare occasions clean the brushes and remove hair. I don't want to have to manually initiate cleaning or remove and reinstall mopping pads every day.
@@MrRoombato ok I understand! I am the kind of people who like to look at the robot while working, and i dont mind if i have to touch it, i like it! So x1 seem good for (and i have no carpet 😉)
I believe it's not recommended for older roborock models. I would rather dilute the solution in a spray bottle and use that on the floors prior to mopping. S7 manual says: Note: * Fill with water only. Cleaning fuids and/or disinfectants may corrode the water tank. * Use cold/room temperature water only. Hot water may cause water tank deformation.
I have one request, rather than just saying "this one" or "that one" in your videos, can you say which robot you are referring to? I'm a blind person and have no idea which robot you were talking about in some cases, with what I know from other videos I can guess but sometimes it was very hard to tell. Looks like the Max V is now available and I went ahead and ordered one but the station is not available yet. I'm assuming I can get that once it becomes available. The Deabot also sounds like a great robot, I may get that one as well.
That's a great point Mike, I didn't think of that, and I will be sure to keep it in mind for future videos. In this video, if I'm saying something awesome about it, it's probably the Roborock. :P
@@MrRoombato I have a Roborock S7 Max V on the way, I didn't get the auto empty base since I will hopefully be able to get the auto empty and mop washing station at some point. This means I'll have to empty the bin and wash the pad manually for a while but I don't mind that. I've had robot vacuums before where I've had to empty the bin, not as convenient but it's not that big a deal. I actually went out and bought a Roomba J7 yesterday, using Voiceover which is the screen reader built in to an Iphone, I was able to set it up totally without sighted help which was nice. The other robot I am considering is the Ecovacs X1 omni, are you planning on doing a video on that one? I'm also thinking of getting a Roomba S9 since it has such cleaning power, I'm not sure why Irobot chose not to use the same vacuum motor for the J7.
@@mikearrigo5674 The j7 is an i7 with a camera in the front, so that's why they didn't use a different motor. Cheaper that way! I would avoid the s9 at all costs. It's a floor scratcher.
And yes, I will do a review of the X1 OMNI. It's a very good robot.
@@MrRoombato Sounds like you have used the S9. I have all hard floors, no carpet at all. I've thought about the S9 a little more and think I will probably skip it. The cleaning power is supposed to be really good but I'm guessing the Roborock that I'm getting and the ecovacs X1 probably have just as much and probably have better battery life. I've heard that when you run the S9 on the max setting, the battery goes really quick, and for some reason Irobot does not put very large batteries in their robots. Still waiting for the Roborock S7 Max V to ship, even though it won't have the auto empty or auto wash feature yet, I think I'm really going to enjoy it, this will be my first Roborock.
@@mikearrigo5674 The S7 MaxV is out already. Here's a link: amzn.to/3EbVuaw
Another 80’s kid here…This is what we grew up on and it’s so fascinating to see. Exciting times! Thanks for the review.
I wish I could see it the way my teenage self from the 80s would have seen it, with awe and a sense of wonder.
Great comparison. Touched on some things many other people did not. I ended up going for the S7 MaxV Ultra for many of the same things you mentioned. Very happy with it and can say it truly is autonomous.
It was great to see these in actual use the last weekend. Its amazing how much technology has changed and improved.
I know!!! I'm amazed by all of them.
I enjoy all your reviews! This is the comparision video I've been waiting for.
I ended up buying an S7 and ilife 450 last black Friday because of your videos. I was concerned it would scratch my floors but went for it! Glad it was discounted!
I think it is a bit unfair that you have to pay for the robot mop/vacuums since you provide quality reviews. They should make a commission program for those that review vacuums. It's underrated work and honestly these reviews change people's lives. You help people make informed decisions!
Thanks for all you do!!
I only paid for one of those, and I ended up returning it because Ecovacs sent me one for free.
And thank you!
I'm looking forward to getting the Roborock in the next couple of months. I've seen some clever garages that people have built to hide the base. My laundry room includes a closet that houses our router and network connections, so it has electricity. I'm going to cut off the bottom few inches off the door so the Roborock can sit inside the closet but have free access to come out when scheduled. Because this is my laundry room, I don't care about the odd look of the short door. The benefit will be getting the large base out of the room and out of sight.
lol you’re NOT old. I’m in the 80s too. Good review. By viewing yours, it addresses my concerns. Off to get mine. Thanks!
This is the comparison we wanted to see, Thank you!
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As always *The best* straight forward brutally honest, time well spent watching and learning knowing the truth. *THANK YOU.*
You are very welcome! And thank you for the kind words.
@@MrRoombato It is the least I can do, expressing my appreciation. You deserve to be on the top of the list for thorough and honest reviewer for robotic vacuum cleaners and whatever else you fancy to review. 👌 . Thank you again.
Thank you for your honest and elaborate review. It is not a “wat is in the box” review 😊
This is the hands down best comparison of any other you tube video I have seen
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Thanks for that really really detailed review!!
Hi Bro, thanks much for putting up the comparison and recommendation!! I was impressed by the S7 Max lifting mop pad as well and considerring to purchase one for my mom as her 55th birthday gift , I believe she will love it sooo much lol~
Oh she will! You're a good kid! :P
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Nice conclusion ;)
Thx for bringing these beasts togother
My biggest issue with these are the dusbags actually. I hate that steep reocurring cost that you have to dump into these. first party bags are expensive, and 3rd party bags are hit and miss. If one of them came along and made a bagless dustbin that I just have to empty out and rinse once in a while I'd be more inclined to buy the product.
Roborock makes one for the S7 MaxV, but it won't wash the mop or fill the water tank. I love the dust bags. They last a very long time and are actually very cheap (at least most of them...some are pricey!!).
@@MrRoombato yeah, bags are the way to go. After having bagless, and family and friends having bagless, they just seems to be messier, harder to clean, and bagless equipment never seems to be up to par with vacuums that take bags. There's many reasons but I won't go into more detail. You should buy this because it has bags.
@@colerickman7979 Agreed. If you like bagless so much, you don't need a self-empty station! There's your bagless dust bin. :P
Great video. Straight to the point. Subscribed ! Will there be more videos showing the robots cleaning capabilities and operating ?
Yes, of course! There already are for the Dreame W10, and the Roborock is next, then the X1. Thank you for subscribing!
I have a Roborock S7 and I really like its sonic mopping and mop lifting function! ! ! I have a carpet in the living room, I used to use other brands' vacuums, which would always get stuck on it or wet the carpet, and the mopping was not clean enough. Since I got the S7, the floor of my house is very clean every day, and my girlfriend never quarrels with me about cleaning. The S7's VibraRise mop lifts when a carpet is detected, so you can mop hard floors and vacuum carpets in a single clean. It also raises when cleaning is finished to avoid spreading dirt, and when docked so you can say goodbye to ugly plastic mats and dirty streaks. The S7MaxV has the same sonic mopping and mop lifting function as its S7! Roborock really frees our hands!!!!!!!
Honest, excellent review! Roborock just announced G10S Pro, which has water connector and mop dryer. Unfortunately only in China so far :(
I saw that G10s pro is cheaper in comparison to S7 maxv ultra, do you happen to know if it has less features? I also saw reports that it had video calling which is not something I really need from a vacuum but I can understand the use case for pet owners
LOL man i had a good laugh going through the comments reading your answers. Amazing dedication for your replies and awesome and honest comparison of these, fully agree with your conclusion. Im surprised i hadnt got you on my robovacs youtubers list, until now :)
Thank you!
Thank you so much for the vid, this is what I need right now!
Glad I could help!
thanks for your in depth video! wow super helpful!
in my country the roborock s7 maxv is only available without the ultra dock. i have no clue how long it will take until the dock becomes available. How well does the roborock s7 work without its dock? can it do a full vacume and wash using its own built in tanks for a 150 sq meter sized house without needing to empty the tanks?
Lastly, have you tried the yeedi mop station and how would you compare that with these, since its much cheaper. im aware the navigation experience is much less advanced, but curious more about the quality of the cleaning. we dont have carpets in our house, so i wouldnt need to be removing the mopping pads. even if you do use a carpet sometimes, im ok with removing the mop pads once or twice a week to vacume the carpets.
I wouldn't buy anything with vslam unless it was very, very inexpensive. As for the roborock, I'd wait until the ultra dock. In the US it comes out in early may. Don't know about in your country, but if it robot itself came out at the same time (April 8), then maybe this will too.
In Europe it will be comming out in may
@@spidersontheweb In the US also.
Than maybe worldwide in May 🤞
Thanks for calling out smart robot reviews! I saw her yeedi review and liked it but now from watching your video here I subscribed and liked what I saw
Thank you!
Just got my dream tech and I want to say.
I absolutely love it
It's a great unit! I still use and love mine.
I went with Roborock many years ago and had most the odd numbered S models, (3, 5 & 7: the odd numbers not intentional lol) I have been extremely happy with every purchase. The autowashing pad looks like an awesome upgrade that I am missing at the moment. I say it looks a bit clunky in comparison to the regular S7 model thou. Over the years they've just keep getting better and better and I would be pretty excited to see the next step in innovation such as the water hookups you mention.
Apparently they already make that, but only in China. It looks the same as the S7 Ultra.
@@MrRoombato what is it that model from china?
@@rogerslb G10S Pro I think.
@Mr. Roombato thanks, well I searched and then there are 2..one is PRO but couldn't understand the difference
@@rogerslb I am not familiar with models that aren't available in the US. Sorry.
Good review, to the point and clear. Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
I have a lot of money to buy a deebot x1 Omni and I am proud of it
Hello Mr.Roombato, thank you for this fantastic review.
I'll be happy to get your(and everyone else) opinion. which will be better choice?
Ecovacs X1 OMNI or Dreame W10 PRO (with the camera)?
Please notice to compare to dreame w10 PRO model and not just w10.
Cant wait to get your opinion(s).
Thanks
I have no experience with the Dreame W10 Pro. But assuming their obstacle avoidance works as well as that of Ecovacs, it depends what your priorities are. Mopping? W10 Pro. Vacuuming? X1 OMNI. Not that the W10 is in any way worse at vacuuming (it's probably a bit better), it's just that it doesn't empty itself.
@@MrRoombato Thank you for the fast reply. you are the best.
I decided to go with the Dreame L10s Ultra, after i saw your last review+comparison with roborock s7 vmax ultra and ecovacs x1 omni.
You reviews are the best. again 10x for the fast reply.
Thanks for the shout out for Natalie!
Very good video! I have my review of the S7 MaxV out in a few days.
Theifting mop pad on the S7 series makes it very smart for people with carpets and rugs.
My carpet sensor broke on the W10 btw.
Thanks!
thank you, that was helpful
Did you make a video at some point showing how you clean and maintain your MaxV Ultra dock?
I can’t seem to find it for the life of me and there aren’t any other videos that showcase that aspect of the Ultra ownership
No, I didn't, but that's not a bad idea!
I have contacted Roborock itself and all major companies in the Netherlands that sell Roborock.
Nobody knows if and when the Ultra will be available in the Netherlands. So now I have ordered it in Germany and have it delivered to friends there. Have inquired about warranty and that is no problem.
Next Saturday I will go to them and then I will finally have my Rocky!🤗
Thank you for everything 😘
You're welcome, and congrats on your new robot!
Great review! Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Hi,thank you so much for the sharing. I really want to place an order , but I can not find any where I can buy it. Do you know when it will be available in US?
If you're talking about the S7 MaxV Ultra, the S7 MaxV is out now and you can get it on Amazon, but the Ultra dock will only be out in early May. Here is a link for the robot itself (you can buy the dock separately: amzn.to/3Esu3ZT
I’m jealous of the Roborock I want one 🤩🤩🤩🤩
You can buy one this Friday!
@@MrRoombato thar’s right!
@@MrRoombato but will it have the dust bin thing or just the robot?
@@celebfarm4243 I'm fairly certain everything will be available on the 8th.
This is a great video and helped me decide on the Roborock after watching it. But then I recently heard there's going to be a new Dreame L10s ultra which seems to combine the best of Roborock/Ecovacs.. Lifting the mop while on carpet, spinning mops (somehow I feel spinning cleans better!), drying the mop after cleaning it, etc. It also seems to solve some of the W10 issues mentioned in this video. I'm just hesitant to pre-order as I haven't seen much in terms of reviews yet. Curious if you've researched it and what your thoughts are.
and I think the new Dreame will look more stylish that the Roborock which I do think looks like an eyesore
So first, spinning mops are NOT an advantage. The Roborock's vibrating pad outperformed every spinning pad I've tested it against. That said, every implementation is different, and Dreame has always been solid for me, so I'm looking forward to testing the L10S.
You just get yourself a subscriber because of this in depth comparisons tour video. Will be waiting for your next cleaning performance videos from thes two main competitors. I'm planning to addd/upgrade my current main robot which is T8 AIVI to S7 MaxV Ultra as well as my first Roborock. I have other robots in my house for each diffetent rooms and they are Dreame F9, Deebot U3 Line, Yeedi 2 Hybrid, Deebot 950 (retiring it as it always move in circle motion) and Roidmi EVE Plus. All robots from Ecovacs app wise are very lacking of the basic features compared to Xiaomi collaborated brands. Thus planning to get my first Roborock which known for their superbs navigation and features.
Looking forward to your upcoming comparison videos.
You'll love Roborock. They are very good and the app is fantastic.
@@MrRoombato That's what I heard from people and reviewers on UA-cam. Keen to find it out on my own. Ecovacs app features are very limited. Can't wait to see your comparison of Omni X1 & S7 Ultra 😆
Subed to you and her channel and going to watch and like both
Thank you!
Thanks so much for this I wasn’t aware that the one doesn’t carry the water and I was looking at that because it dries but I like the fact of the other has on board water better
I wouldn't worry about that to be honest. The only downside is if you have a large house and it's cleaning something far from the base, it will have to make many back and forth trips. The on-board tank is a big advantage but I'm not sure how much you'd notice it in real life unless you have a huge house.
Hi, in your opinion which is the best one in terms of wet cleaning?
The Dreame W10 is probably best for wet pickup, but I really wouldn't rely on any of them for that. I'd get a wet/dry floor cleaner like the Roborock Dyad.
Great video! New subscriber. Can the dreame 10 be run on mop only?
Yes, it can. And thank you for subscribing!
Thanks for the awesome video! Two quick questions about the roborock. How loud is the self-empting? I had the J7+ but we had to return it because my wife could not stand how loud the self-empting was. And, do you have any concern about the all silicone brush scratching hardwood floors? Thanks again!
It's not as loud as the j7 (not that you can tell without a decibel meter) but it lasts longer. I don't know of any quiet self-empty docks. So if your wife doesn't like the noise, then she has to be the one to empty the bin every day! :) As for the brush, no, because it doesn't make contact. The only part of that housing that makes contact is the silicone squeegee thing in the back, which you should wipe down periodically. I have a recent video in which I did a scratch test on plexiglass and it didn't leave a mark.
I mean the hole is wide and you need high suction to suck that out and the brush is also running to remove it sooo it may be louder but noise may be different
Am so tempted to buy but will wait for the second generation. Is the app better in Rpborock/?
The Roborock is just about perfect.
Hi Mr. Roombato. Thank you so much for this explanation. Are you able to take a photo of the "faulty" mopping plate? It'll be interesting to see the differences between this and the "fixed" one, because i heard of that issue also in some forums.
If I can see any difference visually, I will probably make a video about it.
I got my new Roborock S7 Max V. Depending on the price, I may get the emptying and washing dock whenever it is released. Even without that, this robot is excellent. I'm not sure which one cleans better, the Roborock or the Roomba J7 which I also recently got. The Roborock definitely has more suction and airflow I think. One thing I like about the Roborock is that it speaks all of the messages. Since I can't see to read a screen, this is very helpful. The app also works well with the screen reader built in to the iphone. Unfortunately there is no way I can divide rooms since you need sight for that but I usually clean the entire apartment at once anyway. I'm still trying to decide if I want to get an Ecovacs bot and I'm also looking at the Neabot Q11. This is my first Roborock bot and I definitely understand why they get such good reviews now.
I would stick with the Roborock. It's the best robot I've ever tested.
@@MrRoombato I have seen some videos that are making me have second thoughts about getting the Ecovacs X1, I have all hard floors so the fact that it won't vacuum carpets with the mop attached isn't an issue but one video showed it having problems returning to the dock and it just seems kind of buggy still. I have not had a single issue with the Roborock S7 Max V, the opening to empty the bin is a bit small and I do have to pull some of the hair out manually but I can live with that for now until I decide which dock to get, if any. I think Roborock has produced one of the best, if not the best robot vacuum available.
@@mikearrigo5674 It is a bit buggy but mine has never had a problem returning to the dock. If you have to pull stuff out of the roborock's dust bin, your dock may be defective. I actually had a defective dock that emptied poorly and then stopped completely. I couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. Roborock sent me a new dock and it's been perfect ever since. I do sometimes find tiny pieces of dog hair stuck to the filter but they're gone by next cleaning. The dock works very well. If you have the S7 MaxV, wait for the ultra dock. There is zero reason at this point to consider anything else. You have the best machine on the market.
@@MrRoombato I don't have any dock at this point so I have to empty the bin myself, most of the dirt dumps out but some hair remains and I have to pull that out manually. I'm also considering getting one of the Dreametech bots, but I can't decide between the Z10 and the L10, I'm trying to find out if there are any other differences besides the Z10's self emptying dock, they both have the same power and seem to have the same navigation.
@@mikearrigo5674 All I can tell you is that the Z10's self empty dock is excellent. But...why are you not keeping the Roborock? Get the Ultra dock when it comes out and don't look back.
Hi,
What's the difference between the s7, s7+ and the s7 maxv ultra? Because the pricing her in Australia is a big difference between them all.
Also if I was to buy the s7 could I buy the bin for it later?
Thank you for your videos , I really enjoyed and appreciated the effort you put into your work.
The S7 is a completely different robot from the S7 MaxV. The S7+ is the package of that robot and the self-empty dock, just like the S7 MaxV is the package of that robot and the Ultra dock that you see in my video. The S7 doesn't have the AI object avoidance that the S7 MaxV has and cannot interface with the Ultra dock.
Does Roborock have a vacuum only and wash only settings that will avoid carpet, is that something that can be done with a firmware update?
Thank you for the vid.
You can do it with a combination of vac or mop only mode and "do not mop" no-go zones.
Im going to buy the S7MaxV next week. Im really struggling to decide for the + or the ultra version. We have mostly hardfloor with some carpets and our hallway is tiles. We normally mop our floors once a week, but i dont know if i would «miss» doing it more often when i get a robovac. What is your recommendation?
Ultra. Go big or go home. Once you know what it's like to have floors that are mopped daily, you won't want to go back.
Great vidoe!
the best I watched so far
How about cleaning in the dark? when the lights are off? dreameW10 can do it?
Yes, very well. It did it my house every night for many months.
Thanks for the review.
Because you also have animals, I value your opinion very much.
I have 3 dogs (look like Bernese Mountain Dogs, so many and semi-long hairs) per dog I count on 1 vacuuming round per day.
Now I want to buy a robot vacuum cleaner (never had one before) and doubt between these 2.
I only have vinyl without carpet. Removing brushes is therefore not necessary.
Disadvantage Ecovacs: Built-in reservoir, limescale.
Can the Ecovacs withstand descaling (e.g. Vinegar)?
Benefit: Voice activated, appearance.
Disadvantage Roborock: Cleaning brush for mop (seems to get dirty quickly)
What is the track record of both businesses?
Is the Ecovacs small reservoir a drawback or does it not make a difference?
This video is from 2 weeks ago, what is your experience now with the Ecovacs? Trustworthy? Better, Worse, still the same as the Roborock?
Which one do you recommend for me?
Thanks in advance for your response.
I think you would be fine with either, to be honest. Both are voice controlled. Roborock has excellent google/alexa integration, but of course you will need one of those in your house, and you don't need one with the Ecovacs.
The mopping pad on the Roborock works really well, so no need to worry about that. The Ecovacs can vacuum and mop at the same time, the Roborock can too, but it's bad ad it. It makes wide turns and leaves narrow strips of poorly mopped floor. It has a deep mopping mode that mops phenomenally, but as of yet, you can't do that while vacuuming (that may change with firmware). You can tell it to make two passes, which will address that issue.
Since you don't have carpet, my only hesitation in recommending the Ecovacs is that it has water flow issues and mops very poorly. Ecovacs is sending people new mopping plates to fix that, but I don't know if that will completely fix the issue since I haven't gotten mine yet.
As far as which company is better at addressing their issues, in my experience that is definitely Roborock. Ecovacs is definitely trustworthy and has good customer support, but they are not as good as Roborock at addressing problems in their app and elsewhere. At least they haven't been so far.
Thank you so much for your information about vacuuming and mopping at the same time, this is an important point for me because he already has to clean 3 times a day, doubling this means the robot is busy all day.
I thought Roborock could do this too, so thank you so much for this information.
Roborock only has US support, Ecovacs also per country.
Roborock responded to my email very quickly, I have not yet received an answer to my email from Ecovacs, but I was able to call them and in my own language.
Currently Ecocacs is already available here, Roborock is not.
For me, the Ecovacs is now preferred.
Pros Ecovacs: appearance, voice control, vacuuming / mopping in one go, no brush in cleaning station.
Cons: The mobs may need to be replaced, small and inaccessible water reservoir.
Pros Roborock: Many think it is a reliable robot, many good reviews.
Cons: appearance, speech recognition only via google or alexa, can't vacuum and mop good at the same time, cleaning brush in base station.
I find it all difficult, especially because it will be my first robot and I can't view/test them somewhere myself, especially with the price, not something to just buy quickly.
@@spidersontheweb Michelle, I can't guarantee that the new plates will do anything to fix the problem with the water flow. And if they can't fix it, it's going to continue to be a terrible mop. My advice is to wait just a little until I or someone else gets the plates and tests them. You can email me in a week or so at mrroombato at gmail to get an update.
Super! Thank you so much! I will contact you next week
@@spidersontheweb I've seen tons of Ecovacs issues. The app still remains to be buggy. The Roborock doesn't have a buggy app.
The Ecovacs has trouble climbing up on its dock, but that could be tough luck. Your experience could vary.
From the reviews, the Obstacle Avoidance on the Roborock seems to be better than the Ecovacs. 2in height minimum on x1 compared to 1.1 in height on s7 maxv, based on the manufacturer's claims.
Maybe in the future, an update will come where the Roborock has a built-in voice assistant, as it does have an onboard mic I believe.
While Ecovacs is a big brand, they do bribe their amazon customers which isn't the case for the Roborock.
You may want to give a chance with the S7 MaxV. Roborock definitely appears to have the better track record compared to Ecovacs, as far as I can tell.
Just came across your channel. Great video. Looks like there’s currently a presale here in Aus for Roborock s7 max v. Not sure if you can answer this but is it likely to be more cost effective to wait for the complete bundle (roborock s7 maxv with ultradock), or will the total cost be the same irrespective of whether I buy the unit on its own now and the dock later?
That will depend on promotions. It should make very little difference, if at all, if you're paying full price for everything.
last year when they released first the S7 and then the auto dock the combo was exactly the same price as separate, so i hardly doubt they will do any promo
if mopping is more of a "nice to have" would you still recommend the S7 MaxV Ultra for its vacuum features? I need the advanced features of a smart map app based vacuum to navigate around furniture and stuff left on the floor, self emptying etc.. So would you recommend something else in my particular case (ignoring price)
Ignoring price, I would still recommend the Roborock. Or maybe the X1 OMNI, since its mopping isn't as good but you said mopping is just a "nice to have." I have yet to conduct head to head test, but I suspect that the X1 is a *slightly* better hard floor cleaner, though its navigation is wonky enough that I'd probably still get the Roborock.
@@MrRoombato Navigation quality is a top priority so I think I will stick with the Roborock based on your advice so thanks! The dining table has a gently sloping pedestal base that no vacuum has successfully avoided properly and hoping the S7 can do it automatically. To me the difference in price between the plus and ultra base is close enough that just going with the ultra even for occasional mopping makes more sense so I will wait for that to be released.
@@vilago5 I also thought mopping was just a nice extra until I got a good mopping robot, and now I can't live without it. You've made the right decision!
Loved your comparisons. Practical aspects of these things are covered nowhere else.
I'm just curious how would these compare against the new Dreame L10.
I just got one and will be doing a review soon.
@@MrRoombato Hi Mike, any planned date when the review will be posted? Highly value your opinion. Trying to decide if L10S can match S7+ with W450. I am worried about the water not coming out issues with the L10S dock and the parts quality of the robot.
@@MaxAirGo My review sample of the L10S had a defective dock. Water wouldn't come out at all. So they are sending me a new one. This happens, btw, so I wouldn't be concerned. They had to replace my Roborock Ultra dock as well, for a different issue.
@@MrRoombato That is just sad. Some people had to do self repair 10+ times others sucked on the water release nipple on the dock. What was the issue with RR Ultra dock?
I only have hard wood floors wide plank with 1/2 inch grooves .which would you recommend ? I had the ecovacs T8 avi that eventually broke and did a decent job .
I can't recommend the X1 OMNI at the moment because they have yet to solve its mopping issues. I think they will, but until they do...it's between the other two, depending on how much you want to spend.
Can you review the new Roidmi Eva? (Not to be confused with Roidmi Eve Plus) Feels like it's a similar concept to roborock s7 maxv ultra, but for almost half the price!
I would love to, if Roidmi were to send me one.
Hey Mr. Roombato, I really appreciate your honest review. It's very useful. I'm thinking about upgrading my vacuum robot with one of these little beasts but the difference in price in my country is even higher now for the roborock and ecovacs compared with dreame w10. Dreame can be found for 660€, roborock for more than 1000€ and ecovacs 1000€. So considering this factor, the dreame would be the clear winner, right? Thanks again
It depends on what you need. There are two downsides with the Dreame...no object avoidance (although they have a model with AI too) and no self empty dock. You will have to empty the dust bin every day (or however often it goes out to vacuum). So if not having to do that is worth 500 Euro then yes, the Dreame is the clear winner.
@@MrRoombato I really appreciate your answer mate. For me it's no problem to empty the dust bin. And the other inconvenience it's a bit problematic because I usually have some cables around but I guess I can limit with the app the zone/s to clean/mop, right? Thanks!
@@leopoldomarinero8649 If object avoidance is a requirement, Dreame has a W10 AI/camera edition. So you can get that.
Hi! Another kid from 80s here!😁
I tried S7 MaxV and T9 AIVI, well Ozmo Pro performs better than Vibra Rise on stubborn stains. What do you think about it? Is my S7 MaxV faulty or is that true?
I can't really tell you. I have the pro-mop thing for my T8 AIVI and it's never worked that well. The Roborock's "sonic" mop, on the other hand, is the best robot mop I have.
Honestly, with Ecovacs and Roborock offering something new like Obstacle avoidance, self-cleaning and self-emptying in one unit but irobot doesn't, I have a feeling that irobot is too complacent and too comfortable for being on the top of the market for so long that they not only rarely doing their research and development, but also relying too much on marketing and dual brush patent.
And it's more expensive, from where I live, the latest Roomba J7+ cost as much as the latest Deebot X1 Omni, but with less features. 1440 Dollars for Roomba J7+ to 1390 Dollars for Deebot X1 Omni.
You're completely right.
Is there models that uses bagless dustbin ? Becasue if you pay over 1000$ you shouldn thave to pay for disposable dustbins
Not yet, and I doubt there will be. From my perspective, you don't pay over 1000 thousand dollars for something and then have to dump disgusting dust bins and get much of that dust back into the air and your house. But to each their own!
Thats why i love dyson. You just pick whole dustbin, press a button and everything just falls in the trash. 0 effort and really clean. It shouldnt be hard to incorporate something like that into charging station.
In europ the roborock s7 maxv plus model is also avalible in bagless dustbins
@@spidersontheweb Do you have a link? I'd love to see how they did it.
@@MrRoombato here is a video ua-cam.com/users/shortswmAiRxtmbLc?feature=share
I have 5 kids who often drop cereal and crumbs and track clumps of mud and every other messy thing that kids do. I also have 85% hardwood flooring. How do these units tackle that kind of job? Will they vacuum up the crumbs and cereal etc during the mopping session (simultaneously) or would the unit need to do a full vacuum cycle and then do a mopping cycle afterwards? Thanks in advance to whomever offers an answer!
All of these robots can vacuum and mop at the same time.
Great video thanks. Only call out on voice assistants the Roborock has Siri support via Siri Shortcuts. Not sure if the others do also.
Does anyone actually use Siri? :) I say that as a devout iPhone user.
@@MrRoombato I do because I’m deep in the ecosystem and don’t trust Google or Alexa inside my home but I’m also very Apple biased. Being an iOS Engineer since the AppStore opened also makes it hard for me to trust any other product 🤷♂️.
@@wilferrel Hmm. Maybe I will try it. Do I need Apple's Alexa/Google ripoff gadget or can I use my phone? :P
Hi there!
I have recently found all your reviews and it's been a real life saver considering I was just about to spend 2k on a vacuum. 😬
I have pretty uneven slate floors so the mop features would be almost useless unless it was the scrubbing ones I am assuming.
Would you have a recommendation For a basic robot vac, doesn't need any of the latest features, I have some carpet and 2 kids, but majority is slate and it's a pretty big area, not really a lot of places to get stuck.
I'd go with the Dreame D10+
@@MrRoombato thank you.
Great comparison
Thank you!
have you tested Roidmi EVA? is it comparable to ecovacs x1 omni or dreame L10s ultra?
I've contacted them, but they haven't replied.
Hi again Mr Roombato
Can you confirm that the robot (deboot x1) has got his own water tank onboard? Because a lot of people think that it hasn't got one, but as i can see on your video and an other one, there is one, not movable, but it is there ! I can see holes under the plates on the robot, and i can see that the plates have holes allowing the water to wet the mopping pads. By the way, which part have an issue? The plates or the mopping pads? Maybe the holes of the plate arent well placed? Thanks again
Yes, it has one. I think it's 70 or 80ml. The plates are the things with the issue, according to Ecovacs. I haven't received my new plates yet so I can't confirm.
@@MrRoombato ho ok! Thank you very much for your confirmation ! For the issue, maybe the holes of the plates are not in line with the hole of the robot (where the water comes from). You could check this? To look if you can see the hole of the robor through the hole of the plate (sorry if my english is not perfect)
@@GPR34410 I will check for differences when I get the new ones.
@@MrRoombato hello again!
It seems i have the issue, i have contacted the support in france but they seem not to understand what i am talking about. I can't find the chat in the app, could you help me? Thank you!
@@GPR34410 Chat is in settings, under help. They don't know what you mean about the poor water flow? Tell them that it means that not enough water is coming out. :)
Hi,
Which one is the best for mopping ? because I have all tail floor and no carpet.
Best regards
Tommy from Denmark
All of them. :) I haven't tested the X1 OMNI's mopping capability. But between the S7 MaxV and Dreame W10, they are both excellent at mopping, but the Roborock can only mop at its best when set to mop only. So if you want best results, send it out to vacuum and then as a separate task, mop. If you do this with scheduling than it doesn't matter. If you like to send them manually, it's annoying. But not as annoying as emptying a dust bin. So it's up to you. The X1 has the ability to solve both of these problems, and since the new mopping plates fixed its water flow issue, it should be good to go. But like I said, I haven't tested/compared it yet.
@@MrRoombato When will you test the X1?
How does the performance of a rotating mop compares with the ultrasonic mop from roborock?
I would think a rotating mop would perform better, just because it has a larger surface area which are fast moving.
It doesn't perform better at all, they are about the same, but the rotating pads do cover a wider area and so the Roborock needs to make tighter turns to mop as effectively. In the end, that doesn't matter, only results matter.
@@MrRoombato Thanks for clarifying! I have always preferred Roborock for their vacuum bots and was dithering between Roborock and Ecovacs. Based on this information, I think Roborock is still the way to go then!
@@squiggy18 You won't regret getting the S7 MaxV.
I currently need an upgrade from my Shark IQ Robot vacuum. Over the years, the biggest problem for the Shark has been the insane volume of hair kindly distributed around the house by my Siberian husky. Currently (without the Shark because it hasn't been working well anymore unless I clean the roller brush daily) I'm having to vacuum every day. I think it may help to find a vacuum with a larger dust bag to hold more hair. Do you know which of these robot vacuums has a larger volume dust collection bag?
The W10 doesn't empty itself, so it will be fine, if you don't mind that. The Roborock's self-empty system is not very robust and will get clogged. I recommend the Dreame L10S for what you want.
@@MrRoombato
Oh wow, I've never heard of that one. It seems very similar to the Roborock with the lifting mop feature.
Sorry, one more question: I'm now thinking of getting 2 machines, one for vacuuming and one for mopping. This would ideally allow for a larger dust bag for the vacuuming of dog hair. Do you have any recommendations if I were to go this route?
Thanks so much for the answers!
Subscribed!
How much better is this than the s9+ combo from Roomba? I like Roomba because it’s easy to hook into home automation. What’s so different about these models, and do they sacrifice connectivity/ease of use?
Compared to the Roborock...it sacrifices nothing, fits in just as well with home automation and is better in every way. iRobot is better in only one way...marketing. The s9/m6 combo is terrible and you will hate it. My s9 was returned and my m6 is in a closet somewhere. Speaking of, I should probably put it on ebay.
@@MrRoombato what are the things that you hate about the m6 other than it effectively can't climb floor boundaries (despite having a thresholds feature)?
@@123Osaka456 That's the only thing I hate about it. But there are things I don't like. I am now spoiled by robots that clean their own mop pads, so I don't like changing the one on the m6 every time it cleans. I also don't like its navigation, or how long it takes to clean.
Great video and comparison, thanks!
I mentioned on another persons video… I’ve had the ECOVACS X1 Omni since March 26th, purchased through Amazon, and I have to say for a $1,400 robot vacuum, I’m disappointed… the obstacle avoidance doesn’t work with cables or socks (mine sucked up both on several occasions). The robot returned to the station mid cleaning twice so far, saying can’t reach/find area. Even after I literally cleared my whole first floor when doing initial mapping, and moved furniture that is usually stationary to ensure the best mapping possible. While I love the dual side brushes, getting more coverage, my biggest issue is that the deep cleaning is not great on high pile carpet. I noticed it can’t pick up little yarn/string or debris that’s embedded (clinging) to carpet. The mopping is good, especially when you spray down Bona cleaner on the floors prior to running. Finally, I don’t like that I can’t do mopping only, and can’t imagine this thing will do well after sucking up big liquid spills.
I honestly wanted to love the X1 bc of the dual side brushes and two-in-one mopping, but I am very disappointed given the hefty price tag. Feels like I’m paying for features that don’t work as a premium robot vacuum should.
How is the roborock on carpet in your opinion, or which would you recommend besides Roomba for deep cleaning carpet/rugs?
I'm sorry, but I don't have a way to test deep cleaning yet. I tried putting chia seeds way on the bottom of the carpet fibers but nothing I've tested can get them out, so that's not a viable approach. I haven't done a full carpet test on the Roborock yet, that's the plan for tomorrow or Friday, but from preliminary tests, it seems to do a good job. But then so does the X1 OMNI.
The most important thing to understand is that none of these robots are perfect. Each one is going to be deficient in some way. If you get a different robot, you will be trading one deficiency for another. That said, I prefer the Roborock to the X1 OMNI, but I would be very happy with the X1 also.
@@MrRoombato I’ll definitely keep a look out for your tests. Good to know, I think my plan is to return the X1 and give the Roborock a shot…. I did forget to mention, I also really like the drying feature of the X1’s mopping pads. I know the Roborock G10S Pro in China has heating element, in addition to connections for auto filling tanks and even draining into your plumbing. Of course they had to release an even more premium version that’s not available in the USA, when the S7 MaxV hasn’t even hit the market 🤦🏻♂️… here’s hoping the S7 MaxV is slightly better with suction/vacuuming
@@sherefelbassiouny7515 Let me know what you think. Each person sees things just a little bit differently, and I'd value your input.
I had the same experience with the T9+. Obstacle avoidance is shoddy, app is also poorly developed and the robot cant seem to navigate home properly. When it works, its stellar, but when it doesnt, its super frustrating.
@@MrRoombato Question- I noticed when setting up the app, it’s asks if I have a “Home with pets” with a disclaimer that the “robot will move in a way that improves obstacle recognition but may slightly reduce cleaning efficiency”. Does it really impact how it cleans if I choose yes? I have two long-haired Siberian cats, and honestly don’t mind if the robot gently rams them (teach them to move), if it means it will do a better job cleaning. Should I not select home with pets? I really just want it to do a good job avoiding cables, socks, etc.
im torn between the x1 omni, and the s7 maxv ultra, which one should i get in your opinion?
S7 MaxV Ultra. The X1 OMNI is a great robot, but it doesn't lift its mopping pads and is not nearly as good a mop as the S7.
@@MrRoombato good to know, do you have discord? id love to talk with you
@@robotvacuumreviewsandmore9791 I don't use it. I don't really have time for chatting apps.
What do you think about using the iRobot Roomba i3+ & the Roomba braava m6 mop together?
Will it be better than the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, considering that both are made for one specific thing?
Not in the slightest. Assuming the M6 can move around your house (it usually can't), it's a good mop, but it will require constant attention. Even if you're comfortable with leaving the same dirty pad on it, it will run out of water quickly and you will need to fill up every time you use it (unless you live in a tiny apartment). It also doesn't do as good a job as the S7 MaxV Ultra (although it's close) and takes much longer.
The i3 cleans fairly well but takes much much longer and can't clean at night.
@@MrRoombato Before you replied, I bought the Roomba i3+ With the M6 Mop and used it for a week before returning it. The mop could only clean my living room and ran out of water. Returned it and bought the Roborock S7 MaxV Ultra, which is way way better and quicker!!!
The price was also similar in Australia. Thanks again.
@@michaeldebruyn809 I'm glad it worked out!
Thanks for the video :) I was almost sold on the Omni - until I realized the mop pad didn’t lift. What a MASSIVE let down. I would have to put them on and off several times a week… fail!
Get the Roborock. Trust me. If you don't want to spend that much, get the Dreame.
@@MrRoombato got the roborock saved on Amazon - waiting for a sale. $2600 in Aus is too steep. Has anyone ever dived into privacy policy etc. it’s mildly concerning a Chinese company potentially has unrestricted access to your entire house visually, layout, images, dimensions, audio etc. failing that if they are hacked and a third party gains access to the mics etc… have a look at what just happened to our second largest telco Optus data breach (google)… I mean I have that many Alexa’s around the house. Apple and Amazon could data track every time I take a shit, but perhaps more trustworthy then a Chinese robotics company that has 24/7 access to your house - and hoping they don’t get hacked. No doubt this thing has a gps module for location data.
thank you very much
You are very welcome!
How do you think the mop pad cleaning bar will hold up over time? Is it replaceable?
Should be fine. It's a fairly simple device. Anything can be replaced, but only the brush is user serviceable.
wish theyd give them all 2 front brushes, cant even count the amount of times the second brush has caught something on my other vacs.. to me it just looks like its missing on every other vac now..
I have a question, Do these robotic vacuums have an option to not clean on hardwood? I've heard that water is bad for cleaning hardwood with so I wouldn't want them to do that.
You can have them clean or not clean anywhere you want, as specified in the map that the create (which is extremely precise). But what you heard is wrong. My hardwood floors are 40 years old and very weathered and poorly sealed (wearing through the finish). And I have robots mopping them every day. There is no damage of any kind. They just don't use enough water to damage anything.
Thank you for the comparison video. I am trying to decide if it would be cheaper to get it now and purchase the dock later or wait until the combo gets released. At the 40 second mark of the video, you mentioned that they will be offering the Roborock MaxV Ultra (with the fancy dock) for about $1,300. Is that confirmed?
1399 will be the retail price. They mentioned something about a coupon at launch, but I can't confirm that. They had one for the S7 MaxV itself, so it will probably be similar.
They offered a vacuum stick for free from today May 2 until May 9. Such a great deal ($500 discount)
being that you had the X1 now for a couple months, which would be better? the X1 or S7?
The S7. Unless you have a LOT of low pile carpeting.
@@MrRoombato thanks for update
Hi crack!!! Which one cleans the corners better? I was thinking that the roborock as it doesn't clean the corners and angles of the walls well because it doesn't clean the corners and angles of the walls very well. That already happens to me with my current roborock s6.
Crack?!?
None of them clean corners well. I don't know of a single one.
@@MrRoombato The crack in Spain is someone who is as impressive in his work as Messi is in football. Ok, I was hoping that the Dreame W10 being square would reach the corners better. And for the edges? Is the roborock efficient? According to my experience, the mops it comes with don't clean the part that's stuck to the wall well either.
@@rubentdelgado5343 Okay, then I will be The Crack! Yeah, that's actually a disadvantage of the S7's mopping system that I didn't elaborate on. It does not reach edges. But the problem with most of these robots isn't that they can't reach corners or edges, it's that they don't follow walls and corners very well. So it's not really a difference you would notice.
Another question 🙈
How much spase does the Roborock need to get in/out of its dock?
The spot i have in mind (if the dock is 20 inches deep) 31,5 inches of space left, is that enough?
You mean there would be an obstruction 11.5" past the entrance of the dock, in front of it? No, that would not be enough room. Or is the obstruction on the side?
@@MrRoombato The total width of the space is 51.5 inches, I was told the dock is 20 inches deep, leaving 31.5 inches for the robot to drive in and out, is that enough space?
Yes, that should be enough space.
@@MrRoombato That would be fantastic! Thank you!
Hi Mr Roombato,
Have the issue of X1's mopping solved now?
I don't know yet, I haven't received my new plates.
Great review.
Thanks!
Does the roborock leave water on anything other than very low pile carpet? I have a lot of carpet and not much hard floor like 70/30% carpet/hard floor and we have dogs and cats. What would you say of these three would be best?
It shouldn't leave water on any carpet, except perhaps very high pile. The last part of your question got cut off.
btw...if you run your hand over it the second it passes over the carpet, you may pick up some wetness from contacting the irregular surface with the raised pad, but that's gone in seconds.
the robotic with the three tanks showing does the pad stay wet and get possibly musty moldy
Possibly, but not in my house.
I own Ecovacs X1 OMNI. It's good. It's smart. I've compared to other robots, still prefer X1 OMNI. It cannot lift its mops - It's the only major cons IMO.
It's also really bad at mopping compared to just about any other mopping robot. The only robots it beats at mopping are the kind that drag wet pads behind them (your typical budget robot vacuum and "mop."
It seems that Roborock is doing the same thing they did with the s7. Many people got the s7 and auto empty dock separately because that is how it was sold. But as soon as Roborock bundled the two the bundle went on sale. And people could not get the price match. Looking at the s7maxv I am starting to see a similar issue. I got the robot and love it. cant wait until the second when the dock comes out. But Roborock is selling the bundle. With the h7 just thrown in there as a sale for a bit. I don't need a new stick vac but it is kind of disappointing to see the cycle repeat itself. Buying the s7maxv when it first came out all of us got 90$ off and that is all. When the people who get the bundle essentially get 400 dollars off. I am not too affected by this but I feel people will be mad
Yeah, I agree. Not sure why they didn't release everything at once.
Thanks for your statement...👍👍.....the dreame w10 is perfect for me....so i am in a one person appartement! I like the white design from W10 more than the others. Ecovacs have always problems with the software and for that price it should be perfect but it isn't! So the Deebot T9 Aivi with the mopping Tool was a unfinished expensive Robot...with many bugs!!! I never have any problems with Xiaomi or Roborock products!!! In Switzerland you can buy the W10 for 770 USD.....😁😁
I love the Dreame W10. It's one of those robots I will never part with. I will always find a use for it. Enjoy!
I have two cats and was considering buying a robot vacuum to relief myself from vacuuming every single day.
Was considering the Dreame W10 because of its solid performance for its price.
However, due to the Dreame W10 lacking obstacle avoidance, will it just bump into my cats if they are sleeping on the floor?
Yes, but you actually want that. Cats are arrogant, indolent creatures and will interfere with the robot out of spite. The faster it rams them the better! Unfortunately the W10 will slow down before crashing into your cats. The best was the iRobot Braava Jet M6, which rolled right up to my cat and then sprayed him right in the face with water! I loved every second of it. Too bad it was a terrible robot, or it would still be in service for that reason alone.
@@MrRoombato Hahahahaha 😂
Thanks for the great video and reply! Appreciate it
My family had the original Roomba (2002) and we thought it was the COOLEST thing ever but it had TONS of problems... The stupid laser things to block off areas sucked, it was running into everything and getting stuck all the time, and it generally didn't vacuum that well.... It was CRAZY new at the time though and was honestly like 10+ years ahead of it's time.
I just got a "modern" robot vacuum and it is insane how advanced they are in comparison. And it wouldn't have happened without the mapping/lidar/etc. technology we have now which was itself driven by the needs of the autonomous car industry. I honestly thought we should've had vaccum robots like the s7 years ago but it makes sense why they took so long to get this advanced.
Great comparison. I was waiting for this and this is very helpful. Basic question: will the upcoming upgrades from the roborock (plus and ultra docks) going to improve the experience? And increase the cost too much?
(Nice touch with the channel suggestion!)
I think the ultra dock is a must have. You cannot exist on the Earth and not have it. :)
Okay, it's not THAT dramatic. But if you have the S7 MaxV, you need the Ultra dock. Sell a kidney, send your 4 year old to the factory to work the night shift. Whatever it takes. :)
You madlad you actually did it. How were you able to get the omni
Amazon
Yes, BlueCreeper is correct. I bought one.
@@MrBlueCreeper I thought it was pre order only. (conspiracy, Notice how the ecovacs rant video has been taken down.)
@@MrRoombato yup!
@@MrBlueCreeper also the lack of reply adds to my conspiracy
Update: Roborock is in! He's been doing his job great since Tuesday and can't miss him anymore! What a fantastic device! No voice control is no problem at all because the app is super easy and I regularly want to have different zones clean. Thank you so much for recommending Roborock to me, it was indeed the best choice for me!
I'm glad you're enjoying it! It does have voice commands, but through google home or Alexa. Quite extensive ones in fact.
@@MrRoombato I know. I wanted the Omni for voice control, appearance and spinning mobs. You said that Roborock has voice control via Google, that it was possible that Omni mobs mobs did not work well, I contacted both companies, Roborock always answered within a day, I am still waiting for an answer on Ecovacs, so I chose Roborock! Because the app is so extremely easy, I don't need voice control (maybe later, if I wand). In real life I think the base looks much tighter and therefore nicer than I thought. I need reliability and that's Roborock!
@@spidersontheweb Glad you're happy with it! Mine is still going strong and working every day.
I was about to purchase s7 maxv ultra but then decided to wait. Roborock will release the new robot with the dock has the exact same features as this one, plus it can dry the mopping pads, and it connects to water plumb, so users dont have to change or dump dirty water anymore 😂 bad news is they will release it in China in June, so we have to wait for around 6 months for international version
@@MayaPham8538 Do you know for sure that there will be an international version?
Bonjour, Alors c'est le s7 le meilleur...? Juste avec leur réserve d'eau, sans la station, il nettoie combien de m2?
I think so, yes. As for your question, I can't really answer it, because it can clean my entire main floor on just its internal water tank and still have water left over. The limiting factor there will be how often you want it to go back and clean the pad, which will be a lot more often than it needs water.
I wonder how to did you managed to get a hold of ROBOROCK S7 MAXV ULTRA before the release date? Can you please tell me your secret? Thanks
Of course I will! Anything for my viewers. :)
You have to start a UA-cam channel about robot vacuums and you have to get enough people to watch it for them to give a crap when you ask them for review samples! :)
I am on vacation! :D
Can’t wait for the release of the S7 MAXV!
Me too
Counting the days until the 8th
@@lukestar401 I can help with that! It's 2. The answer is 2. :P
@@MrRoombato will the empty wash fill dock be ready by the 8th though
@@lukestar401 As far as I know, yes. The ones they sent to reviewers were already in full retail packaging, so as far as I'm aware, they've been sitting in warehouses and ready to ship.
@@MrRoombato Unless something has recently changed there is no release date for the Ultra dock. On the 8th you can buy the S7 MaxV or the combo with the Auto Empty Dock.
MSRP:
S7MaxV: $859.99
S7MaxV+: $1159.99
Excellent review. Thank you. I have not seen the Roborock available anywhere yet. It would be nice if they gave it a less confusing name that wasn't so similar to other models. In my experience with robot vacs, the Roborocks have been the most trouble-free and efficient. I've been using the S4 - don't know whether it's "Max" or not. Another one with the long names. And it is much better than the Roomba i8 (Costco i7) which is so bad at navigation it's painful to watch. And it (Roomba) is loud. Perhaps I will hold out until Black Friday to consider the Roborock S7 whatever vacuum purchase. The kinks will be worked out and maybe the price will come down a bit.
Whatever you do, use my affiliate links. I just set the system up (what can I say, I'm slow and dumb) and I like seeing the little (very little) numbers go up!
I'm waiting on the roborock for at least half year already. They released it in China long ago and still not available in Australia. The Chinese version is also way cheaper...
@@sunhannah2937 They are adapting it to suck up giant spiders and snakes. Be patient. :P
I am a current owner of the omni, it is a very good machine, however I am selling it and buying the Roborock. The reason is what he refers to around the seven minute mark. The Roborock will vacuum and mop a hard floor, then when it comes to a rug, lift up the mopping pad, vaccum the rug, and when done and off the other side, re-deploy the mop and continue vacuum and mopping the hard floors. With my Omni, I have to run it in vacuum mode, then when it is finished, install the mopping pads and run it a SECOND time. Maybe it’s no big deal to most, but if I am spending this much money I want all the perks I can get. So, from an Omni owner… I’m getting rid of it and buying the Roborock.
All they really need is the ability to turn off carpet detection. As little water as that robot puts down, it won't really matter if it "mops" the carpet.
Hello, why dont you make the opposit? First run a mopping mode, it will vaccum and mop all the hardfloors, and when finish, run a vaccum mode only on the rugs? By creating area on the rugs. No?
@@GPR34410 Yes, you can totally do that. But I don't like to be involved in the process. My robots clean at night while I sleep. I only touch them to dump/fill the tangs, and on rare occasions clean the brushes and remove hair. I don't want to have to manually initiate cleaning or remove and reinstall mopping pads every day.
@@MrRoombato ok I understand! I am the kind of people who like to look at the robot while working, and i dont mind if i have to touch it, i like it! So x1 seem good for (and i have no carpet 😉)
But i was answering to paulous in order to make him to earn time
Can you add a liquid cleaning solution for floors to the roborock?
I believe it's not recommended for older roborock models. I would rather dilute the solution in a spray bottle and use that on the floors prior to mopping.
S7 manual says:
Note:
* Fill with water only. Cleaning fuids and/or disinfectants may corrode the water tank.
* Use cold/room temperature water only. Hot water may cause water tank deformation.
Yes. Roborock now has a cleaning solution that is approved for all their robots I believe. At least S7 and S7 MaxV.
@@rxappdev can you please refer me to this solution? Where to buy it online (preferably world wide shipping)?
@@ilanz4042 Here you go: amzn.to/3JqoWKC
So i can choose brand? S7 ok?
Yes, the Roborock is great.
Where'd you get the basin for the Roborock? Not available anywhere.
They sent it months ago to reviewers/influencers.