Stats Most exhausting player W 15 | 13 d3 O11 fp6 bp9 d7 v5 f2 bp6 f3 fp4 f3 L13 fp19 fp11 fp6 | L9 b3 bp8 fp11 s b6 b10 f6 d4 f5 f3 fp7 O7 E 11 | 4 f3 bp4 f3 L17 f3 d10 f6 fp6 b6 d5 d13 | d3 d14 b2 f3 Slightly less exhausting player W 16 | 5 O12 O17 O7 O9 O8 bp3 O17 b15 v13 d3 v21 bp12 O15 O13 s v7 | O14 v10 O10 d25 bp6 E 17 | 14 f4 f6 b11 b2 b5 df O5 O10 L8 b4 f4 b8 v3 b3 O5 L8 f5 | fp6 b6 b7 df b7 f4 fp6 b3 L6 L6 b10 b2 f5 b5 First set was tight but still MEP got an excess 5 points. A staggering 8 of SLEP's 16 winners were overheads, which made MEP switch to passing shots as the follow up to the drop shot, which constituted 10/28 of his winners. I think both knew very well what was going on and SLEP tried to keep the ball high while MEP kept it low, also intercepting more of the traffic half court. The longer rallies tended to favor MEP, especially in the 2nd set where he made only 1 error against SLEP's 8, which may also indicate a difference in fitness.
Great analysts! I agree with SLEP and the likely hood that MEP was in a bit better shape, though it should be noted the weather difference between Seattle and Atl
With Hawk Eye or professional linesmen some of the tight line calls had probably gone the other way around. As the phenomenon keeps growing, this will be a thing to consider in the future!
When I was coaching JC tennis these are the type of matchups I would generally see at the 6=7 spots. Very consistent and patient tennis. Personally, I love it. These guys are machines!
Back in the day I’ve played a couple who played similar to this. You warmup with them and say to yourself this is going to be a cake walk and than you play. No matter your shot it come back like a backboard . No pace slight spin. They frustrate you and you mark silly mistakes.
I missed the opportunity to use a Ric Flair-inspired intro: "I'm MEP! I’m the slice forehand drivin’, lob flyin’, green shirt wearin’ point-stealing, drop-shot dealing son of a gun. And I’m havin’ a hard time, holding these ASICS down!"
I feel that the perfect background song to watch this match to is the Police's Walking On The Moon. It has that same lulling effect, but you can't readily take your eyes/ears off it.
I was worried that the Universe might implode if two MEPs play each other. Seriously though, red shirt has a rock solid net game and is good on the overhead. It's not accurate to describe him as a pusher. He is actually quite aggressive in looking for opportunities at the net.
I felt like I was watching the same superhero's of alternate universes, with opposite color suits (Andrew was wearing the same green at the end??!?). MEP of this universe prevails yet again. Many thanks to TTC for another awesome upload. Cheers.
Great, great match! As a coach, this was a joy to watch because of the "chess-match" that was going on. The first set 4-4 game was key. MEP Atlanta hung in there and found a way. From there, he was just dialed in. Here's the thing - MEP Atlanta has offense. When he needs to, he'll dial up the pace of those chop forehands. The varying pace can become unpredictable. MEP Seattle did well (a could've easily won the first set) but MEP Atlanta knows how to raise his game when it counts. "Raising your game" is an x-factor intangible type of skill that not many players have. Awesome stuff 👍
Excellent summary in my book. One thing MEP-Atlanta has that I find difficult is the varying pace and the disguise with drop shots, lobs, passing shots and basically all his forehands as he sets up the same way to hit all of them. Can’t read his forehand.
The beauty of MEP is this. We have ALL played an MEP before and we will never be the same again. My first MEP was a guy named Curtis. He bunted EVERY BALL back into no mans land with no pace, no spin - oh and each ball was the same a half moonball. Zero variety. I lost so badly I wanted to die. LOL.. We must all go through this. I was a 3.5 at the time, and let me be clear to MEP (Ben). Curtis my MEP, was no where even close to the skill level of Ben. Ben would have eaten Curtis alive. The point was, I had never seen anyone present me with soft high balls, and just wait to watch me self destruct. Beautiful. :)
Sorry, I'm not sure what the tennis scene is like in Atlanta, but I don't see how this guy can have such a dominant record at USTA 4.5. Every 4.5 player I've seen can hit well enough from both wings that they would regularly punish these short dinks he plays, because he often has poor court positioning after he plays them (regularly in no-man's land).
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Great battle of two titans. Really interesting to see how much offense these two "pushers" demonstrate once they realize they're not going to get free points just by extending the rally. I've watched a lot of Green MEP matches, and I had no idea that he had so much volley game. Red MEP's overhead was obviously awesome since Green MEP stopped lobbing. Red MEP also was really good at reaching drop shots, and poking them deep into the corner --- sadly for him, Green MEP's passing shots seemed especially sharp this day. It seemed to me that the most critical difference between these two was: 1) Green MEP got back more "emergency" balls where the opponent hits a good attacking shot, especially in the first set; and 2) Green MEP seemed to be more able to dictate the terms when defensive patterns would shift to offense -- once he determined that he could win the majority of battles at the net, a lot more points seemed to play out there. I'm sure Red MEP must frustrate and destroy many opponents at home, but on this day, he met his match. Kudos to both for a great match.
A Pusher Academy, you got to be kidding me. we hit the ball over 100 mph and have to always stay alert, and these guys are pushing the ball like an old shopping cart going down the isle at 2-10 mph while we are all falling asleep at the wheel as mind numbering rallies continue to go on and on.
@@PURETENNISsense Yes I use a big heavy flat pronation slice drive that allows me to drive slice the ball at 100 or more mph through the court which is a bit nasty. I learnt how to add the heavy flat pronation into the slice drive from looking at one of Jeff's Salzenstein's videos on improving the backhand slice. Then once I learnt how to do heavy pronation for the backhand side, I applied it also to the forehand side to get the best of both worlds. I do hit the topspin drives also as well, but I prefer slice driving with light or heavy pronation because it keeps the ball nice and low skidding all through when I want to place it around the court.
MEP on MEP matchup is a fascinating one to watch, as both of them are used to feast on harder hitting players who will make mistakes against them ... FASCINATING (and I played the Seattle MEP - he is truly tough to play, moves you north-south a lot ... and his DL backhand is truly good - he didn't showcase it here)
One reason I didn’t pull the trigger on DTL 2hb in this match is that I have a high strike zone. I prefer a moderate pace topspin ball chest high, so that I can flatten it out. To his credit, MEP gave me mostly low stuff around my knees, which took away one of my favorite shots.
MEP Seattle (in orange) has a pretty decent smash, so he attacked and finished many high balls quite successfully. They deserved to meet and play each other, kudos to both players and the channel)
A bit rude comment by me when I read it again. Second set is cool to see that Ben/MEP crushes his opponent that has much better net play then him. Ben has really good tactic and would beat me and many lower 4.5 easy. Even tho his technic looks the way it does, his shots is harder to perform and he has very good accuracy with his forehand. It looks much worse then it is, but its many tennis hours behind.
The "rally" that starts at 15:50 (and ends at 16:25!!!) is the stuff of legends, including the world famous moonball attack by the SLEP and three smashes!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 Ps. It is also my recurring nightmare...!!
Both players played well in the first set. It could have gone either way. I was impressed with Seattle's overhead on short lobs, particularly in this set! In the second set, Seattle seemed to either get a bit tired or maybe just lost focus somewhat. I still think that players against MEP do him a favor giving him slower topspin shots which allow him to hit down on shoulder-high driving backspin shots which stay low. That is kind of MEP's bread and butter offensive shot. I would think it would better to keep the ball low against him when possible to force him to hit up... I would think in a rematch that even if MEP lost the first set, he would be the favorite in a three set match....
We had agreed at the start of the match that if we split sets, we would play out a full third set. The way the first set ended (with MEP's amazing escapes on game points in the last 2 games, after it felt like I was finally finding some momentum), was a mental shock. And MEP was able to play more freely and offensively after that with a set under his belt. With my focus dropped a notch, and his confidence level boosted, the 2nd set went pretty fast.
@@sportscastercanada Yeah, the limp/dead right arm is what gives him the truly unorthodox look that most people can't seem to identify why it looks really 'different'. Val Wilder who played on the pro tour also hits with a limp off-racket arm, same look.
These two are extremely skilled. People who have weak technique and strategies blame pushersfor their losses all the time. They are better than you that is why.
No, they’re not. MEP is highly skilled within a very narrow bandwidth of skill. He’s definitely a difficult player to beat but mostly because he doesn’t play against highly skilled players. A really skilled short order cook is not the same as a skilled chef. That said, I admire his tennis IQ and find his matches enjoyable to watch.
MEP is a 4.5 rated player which means he is better than 90% of tennis players. I think that's highly skilled. It's not pro level, but it's pretty darn good.
@@michaelp9061 I would love and hate that at the same time. As I’m now in my 60’s I would have real trouble because of the running. I’d probably die. In my mid 40’s I could hold my own with D1 female players at a major Pac 10 school, so I don’t think relative skill would be much of a concern. Sorry you don’t like my opinion but, there it is. Here is what highly skilled amateurs look like: ua-cam.com/video/QZlwyrG4JAw/v-deo.html
Nowadays, very rarely. In high school, when my style of play was very different (S&V both first and second serve), I broke strings every 45 minutes until I switched to Problend.
That’s an annoying serve. No one practices returning it. However I once had a tennis coach in juniors that would hit serves like that to me in practice as he said you never know if youMll run into someone who does that...I’m starting to think he must’ve annoyed a lot of opponents with that serve too.
Actually, I was only serving that way because the sun angle made it impossible for me to use my usual serve. In hindsight, I should have considered trying on the good visibility side too, as it works especially well in the deuce court against lefties. I also use it on occasion against strong players who are good at crushing high balls, as it stays below the net and draws people off the court.
There's a good chance that the Washington State Open will be held at the Seattle Tennis Club this year in August. Come and play! Every age division with Open, and the Blue Angels fly over your head during your match.
At some point, one of you has to want to use good mechanics somewhere deep inside your cyborg pusher brains😆 Then again..I’m sure RF is at home on UA-cam saying, “I had it all wrong man!!” Just kidding guys, you both have very smart games and this is why so people are watching! Great stuff!
For a moment I thought you had ditched your green shirt Ben. That would've been a trademark infringement of first degree. You will bagel Ian! 💪 Btw, how is it like to taste your own medicine? 💊 😁
Fun to watch. I like your channel. Thanks. IMHO, the strengths or weapons that these MEPs have in common are tenacity, patience, mobility, economy of motion, endurance, consistency and ball placement. MEP Seattle has a very good overhead. Not sure about MEP Atlanta's overhead. Even though this is all very good stuff, I think that the 4.5s in our (non USTA) league would be able to beat them. I'm in the lowest division, by the way, so none of this applies to me. Even when I was in my late 20s in the early and mid '70s, and maybe about a 4.0 or 4.5 USTA equivalent for those days (and I'm being predictably generous with my assessment of myself), I'm pretty sure that these MEPs would run me to exhaustion. Anyway, the reasons that I think that our 4.5s would beat these USTA 4.5 MEPs is because they share all of the good stuff of these MEPs plus almost all of them are in their 20s and 30s, their mobility and endurance is even better than these MEPs, and their serves and groundstrokes are more forcing weapons. But I could be wrong about that. I've played, and lost to, lots of deceptively efficient and effective players, and these MEPs are definitely efficient and effective. Sometimes quite deceptively so. It's always tough to play MEP type players. Their games are much more diverse and polished than the pushers and/or blockers of lower divisions. Also, it's quite an accomplishment to reach, and win in, USTA 4.5 no matter where it is.
MEP SEATTLE has the same style camo hat in different styles. Talk about consistency!!!!!! I had to rewind to make sure after I noticed the hat change at the 22 min mark! WTH?
Wishing I lived in America, to show that this isn’t that hard- call me a keyboard warrior but I’ve faced MEP on steroids- forehand and backhand slice of a pro hitting within 6 inches of the baseline EVERY shot, his knowledge of tennis court dimensions is incredible... may have to ask the bloke to record our match if he’s in my half of the draw on the 30th May
Did green shirt demo the entire prince racket line during this match? I saw a green, black, then blue frame. Orange also switched between a couple frames haha
It practically was! Did you see the 2020 Men’s US Open Final??? Thiem and Zverev got so tight at the end. It was painful to watch. I nearly couldn’t believe it for how they normally play.
I think they would make a solid team. Played doubles off camera afterwards (Seattle and I vs Atlanta and friend). I can see Atlanta setting up Seattle at the net over and over.
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Stats
Most exhausting player
W 15 | 13
d3 O11 fp6 bp9 d7 v5 f2 bp6 f3 fp4 f3 L13 fp19 fp11 fp6
| L9 b3 bp8 fp11 s b6 b10 f6 d4 f5 f3 fp7 O7
E 11 | 4
f3 bp4 f3 L17 f3 d10 f6 fp6 b6 d5 d13
| d3 d14 b2 f3
Slightly less exhausting player
W 16 | 5
O12 O17 O7 O9 O8 bp3 O17 b15 v13 d3 v21 bp12 O15 O13 s v7
| O14 v10 O10 d25 bp6
E 17 | 14
f4 f6 b11 b2 b5 df O5 O10 L8 b4 f4 b8 v3 b3 O5 L8 f5
| fp6 b6 b7 df b7 f4 fp6 b3 L6 L6 b10 b2 f5 b5
First set was tight but still MEP got an excess 5 points. A staggering 8 of SLEP's 16 winners were overheads, which made MEP switch to passing shots as the follow up to the drop shot, which constituted 10/28 of his winners.
I think both knew very well what was going on and SLEP tried to keep the ball high while MEP kept it low, also intercepting more of the traffic half court. The longer rallies tended to favor MEP, especially in the 2nd set where he made only 1 error against SLEP's 8, which may also indicate a difference in fitness.
Slightly less exhausting- good one.
Great analysts! I agree with SLEP and the likely hood that MEP was in a bit better shape, though it should be noted the weather difference between Seattle and Atl
I’m new here, what do all the numbers and letters mean?
@@jamespearsoniii914 I agree- weather/dealing with the sun is likely a factor.
With Hawk Eye or professional linesmen some of the tight line calls had probably gone the other way around. As the phenomenon keeps growing, this will be a thing to consider in the future!
I am exhausted and I am sitting in front of my computer.
Me too. This is not their competion, rather than us again ourselves.
Me: I wanna see Djokovic vs Murray!
Mom: We have Djokovic vs Murray at home
Djokovic vs Murray at home:
😂 brilliant comment
Great comment
Brooooo 😂😂😂
I am so happy for them. The separated twin brothers finally found each other.
We'll need to bring together one MEP from every state for a national tournament
That would be awesome.
@@TennisTrollChannel Might as well make it global. MEP Atlanta vs MEP Spain first round
@@herrchmafi3431 We would enjoy that. One day hopefully.
You'd need to book it over two weeks like a Major tourney... The matches would be so long!
@@shakeemrobinson2948 and need more memory and batteries : ]
I adjusted the playback speed to 1.5 and then 1.75 X. Then, it really became a rousing show of long rallies and blazing speed.
You guys crossed the streams into a double negative and now my tennis brain is broken.
😂😂
😂
😆😆😆😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
They legit broke the Stargate
Both players quietly thinking "wow, this guy's a baller..."
Can confirm.
When an Immovable object meets an unstoppable force
I think it's more like if two immovable objects met each other
@@herrchmafi3431 No way! Two unstoppable forces... moving at about 2.7 mph =D
Thank you to both MEPs and the Talk Tennis forum for making this match happen!
When I was coaching JC tennis these are the type of matchups I would generally see at the 6=7 spots. Very consistent and patient tennis. Personally, I love it. These guys are machines!
Back in the day I’ve played a couple who played similar to this. You warmup with them and say to yourself this is going to be a cake walk and than you play. No matter your shot it come back like a backboard . No pace slight spin. They frustrate you and you mark silly mistakes.
"To be the MEP, you've gotta beat the MEP!" - Ric Flair
Nice! Woooooo!
@@CoachAdrian Woooooooo!
I missed the opportunity to use a Ric Flair-inspired intro: "I'm MEP! I’m the slice forehand drivin’, lob flyin’, green shirt wearin’ point-stealing, drop-shot dealing son of a gun. And I’m havin’ a hard time, holding these ASICS down!"
@@MEPTennis forgot the "Woooooo!"
@@peltotalo
Touché. You can tell that self promotion is not my forte :)
MEP Atlanta has a ton of patience. I feel like that is an underrated strength of his. He has some good passing shots when the time is right.
I feel that the perfect background song to watch this match to is the Police's Walking On The Moon. It has that same lulling effect, but you can't readily take your eyes/ears off it.
The content I didn't know I needed
I was worried that the Universe might implode if two MEPs play each other. Seriously though, red shirt has a rock solid net game and is good on the overhead. It's not accurate to describe him as a pusher. He is actually quite aggressive in looking for opportunities at the net.
27 minutes and 36 seconds of MEP. And a cold beer! 😍
I felt like I was watching the same superhero's of alternate universes, with opposite color suits (Andrew was wearing the same green at the end??!?). MEP of this universe prevails yet again. Many thanks to TTC for another awesome upload. Cheers.
It's like Spiderman into the spider verse movie
Great, great match! As a coach, this was a joy to watch because of the "chess-match" that was going on. The first set 4-4 game was key. MEP Atlanta hung in there and found a way. From there, he was just dialed in. Here's the thing - MEP Atlanta has offense. When he needs to, he'll dial up the pace of those chop forehands. The varying pace can become unpredictable. MEP Seattle did well (a could've easily won the first set) but MEP Atlanta knows how to raise his game when it counts. "Raising your game" is an x-factor intangible type of skill that not many players have. Awesome stuff 👍
Excellent summary in my book. One thing MEP-Atlanta has that I find difficult is the varying pace and the disguise with drop shots, lobs, passing shots and basically all his forehands as he sets up the same way to hit all of them. Can’t read his forehand.
@@TennisTrollChannel Good point. It's very difficult to read his forehand. Opponents always have to be on guard. This can be mentally tiring.
Seeing my opponent come through over and over again with clutch winners on the biggest points to snatch the first set was also very mentally tiring.
@@racquetscientist7975 You played well. The line between winning and losing is usually very thin.
Thank you to the both of you for such a fun match
Watched about five minutes of it, very relaxing, had a metronome quality about it.
The beauty of MEP is this. We have ALL played an MEP before and we will never be the same again. My first MEP was a guy named Curtis. He bunted EVERY BALL back into no mans land with no pace, no spin - oh and each ball was the same a half moonball. Zero variety. I lost so badly I wanted to die. LOL.. We must all go through this. I was a 3.5 at the time, and let me be clear to MEP (Ben). Curtis my MEP, was no where even close to the skill level of Ben. Ben would have eaten Curtis alive. The point was, I had never seen anyone present me with soft high balls, and just wait to watch me self destruct. Beautiful. :)
MEP's shatter any illusions we might have about our tennis ability. They make us realize we're not nearly as good as we thought we were.
Sorry, I'm not sure what the tennis scene is like in Atlanta, but I don't see how this guy can have such a dominant record at USTA 4.5. Every 4.5 player I've seen can hit well enough from both wings that they would regularly punish these short dinks he plays, because he often has poor court positioning after he plays them (regularly in no-man's land).
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Thank you. Welcome to our community.
countless tears and racket breaks have been created over the years from these two MEPS
I've never seen so many overheads so early in a match and very nicely executed ones at that.
True! MEP Seattle didn't miss overheads early on
@@CoachAdrian I only watched the first three of four games. LOL
Great battle of two titans. Really interesting to see how much offense these two "pushers" demonstrate once they realize they're not going to get free points just by extending the rally. I've watched a lot of Green MEP matches, and I had no idea that he had so much volley game. Red MEP's overhead was obviously awesome since Green MEP stopped lobbing. Red MEP also was really good at reaching drop shots, and poking them deep into the corner --- sadly for him, Green MEP's passing shots seemed especially sharp this day. It seemed to me that the most critical difference between these two was: 1) Green MEP got back more "emergency" balls where the opponent hits a good attacking shot, especially in the first set; and 2) Green MEP seemed to be more able to dictate the terms when defensive patterns would shift to offense -- once he determined that he could win the majority of battles at the net, a lot more points seemed to play out there. I'm sure Red MEP must frustrate and destroy many opponents at home, but on this day, he met his match. Kudos to both for a great match.
I am undefeated playing with Tennis Troll shirt with MEP Atlanta's signature.
When they see your shirt, you've won before the match even starts 😂 That's awesome
These rallies went on longer than a game of Monopoly in my household.
Lol! 😂😂😂😂
What a match! Pusher v. pusher... Slice v. Slice, Moon ball v. Moon ball... Atlanta is a master of the style. He needs to open an academy...
A Pusher Academy, you got to be kidding me. we hit the ball over 100 mph and have to always stay alert, and these guys are pushing the ball like an old shopping cart going down the isle at 2-10 mph while we are all falling asleep at the wheel as mind numbering rallies continue to go on and on.
@@germanslice You should see me in the supermarket, I'm a speed demon.
I slice and drive the ball over 100+ mph and these two just plod slowly along that the ball hasn't even got a chance to wear out.
@@germanslice slice groundstroke at over 100mph?
@@PURETENNISsense Yes I use a big heavy flat pronation slice drive that allows me to drive slice the ball at 100 or more mph through the court which is a bit nasty. I learnt how to add the heavy flat pronation into the slice drive from looking at one of Jeff's Salzenstein's videos on improving the backhand slice. Then once I learnt how to do heavy pronation for the backhand side, I applied it also to the forehand side to get the best of both worlds. I do hit the topspin drives also as well, but I prefer slice driving with light or heavy pronation because it keeps the ball nice and low skidding all through when I want to place it around the court.
It’s like listening to the world’s slowest popcorn popper. Kidding. Love watching these guys!
MEP Seattle kinda found that topspin forehand on those quick-decision late hits. I'm calling fugazi on his whole backstory.
"It kinda wasn't fun."
Bout sums it up
MEP on MEP matchup is a fascinating one to watch, as both of them are used to feast on harder hitting players who will make mistakes against them ... FASCINATING (and I played the Seattle MEP - he is truly tough to play, moves you north-south a lot ... and his DL backhand is truly good - he didn't showcase it here)
Thanks for sharing your experience playing Seattle. I find it interesting to read others’ perspective.
Re his backhand - We practiced the previous afternoon, I did see his drive BH to be very good - he didn't show it in the match for some reason.
@@anypugtennis9083 Yeah ... when we played I mostly attacked his fh - but his fh slice is VERY versatile and generates a very awkward ball to hit.
One reason I didn’t pull the trigger on DTL 2hb in this match is that I have a high strike zone. I prefer a moderate pace topspin ball chest high, so that I can flatten it out. To his credit, MEP gave me mostly low stuff around my knees, which took away one of my favorite shots.
@@racquetscientist7975 that makes sense as to why many of your backhands went crosscourt to MEP’s forehand.
fascinating and kinda therapeutic - the gentle clack of nice long rallies :-)
The guy in green is how a very good right hand player would play if he used his left hand.
That is also my interpretation of a topspin two backhand, like the way red MEP plays
They look so friendly passing the ball back and forth, also like the Spiderman pointing at each other.
How to Avoid Tennis Elbow by MEP Atlanta and MEP Seattle
MEP Seattle (in orange) has a pretty decent smash, so he attacked and finished many high balls quite successfully. They deserved to meet and play each other, kudos to both players and the channel)
Life goals to play tennis like this! Thank god we are different
A bit rude comment by me when I read it again. Second set is cool to see that Ben/MEP crushes his opponent that has much better net play then him. Ben has really good tactic and would beat me and many lower 4.5 easy. Even tho his technic looks the way it does, his shots is harder to perform and he has very good accuracy with his forehand. It looks much worse then it is, but its many tennis hours behind.
You really have to have the patience like watching a fish bowl with 2 fish slowly swimming circles.
Seattle's overhead game is no joke. He was really punishing MEP at the beginning before MEP adjusted
At 23:06 25-shot or so rally that MEP Seattle wins with a drop shot. Wonder how many times that happens against MEP Atlanta.
The "rally" that starts at 15:50 (and ends at 16:25!!!) is the stuff of legends, including the world famous moonball attack by the SLEP and three smashes!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
Ps. It is also my recurring nightmare...!!
Only 15 shots in the rally
Moonball battle
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MEP on MEP action is a good one for that!
PHRASING
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Both players played well in the first set. It could have gone either way. I was impressed with Seattle's overhead on short lobs, particularly in this set!
In the second set, Seattle seemed to either get a bit tired or maybe just lost focus somewhat.
I still think that players against MEP do him a favor giving him slower topspin shots which allow him to hit down on shoulder-high driving backspin shots which stay low. That is kind of MEP's bread and butter offensive shot. I would think it would better to keep the ball low against him when possible to force him to hit up...
I would think in a rematch that even if MEP lost the first set, he would be the favorite in a three set match....
We had agreed at the start of the match that if we split sets, we would play out a full third set. The way the first set ended (with MEP's amazing escapes on game points in the last 2 games, after it felt like I was finally finding some momentum), was a mental shock. And MEP was able to play more freely and offensively after that with a set under his belt. With my focus dropped a notch, and his confidence level boosted, the 2nd set went pretty fast.
I have to say there is some guilty pleasure in watching MEP Atlanta have to play himself. Ha
Lol. Funny but I get it.
The guy in orange has an excellent overhead shot!
This match has left me in a trance.
I want Seattle MEP’s overhead.
Me too.
Loved it! ~ Signed Most Exhausted Viewer 😄
Gotta root for MEP Seattle here. WA represent!
Really wanting a piece of MEP. You can’t really consider yourself a good tennis player until you can be the dreaded “pusher”
I bet both players were very exhausted after this
Lol.
Red Kryptonite vs Green Kryptonite! Fight!
Have you noticed the troll himself was also playing with someone on the right court during their match?
When worlds collide.
I think brad gilbert wrote a book about this.
This is a true game of mental toughness
Orange shirt has a killer overhead. That puts a lot of pressure on his opponent to be precise with their lobs
SMEP = MEP with an overhead. MEP/Ben - develop that overhead and you will truly be an immovable object of nature.
SMEP simply lost because of more unforced errors. I don’t know how MEP can play that style with his right non dominant arm being so limp/dead.
@@sportscastercanada Yeah, the limp/dead right arm is what gives him the truly unorthodox look that most people can't seem to identify why it looks really 'different'. Val Wilder who played on the pro tour also hits with a limp off-racket arm, same look.
MEP backhand winner @ 7:09 is v satisfying
beautiful. the way tennis was meant to be played.
These two are extremely skilled. People who have weak technique and strategies blame pushersfor their losses all the time. They are better than you that is why.
No, they’re not. MEP is highly skilled within a very narrow bandwidth of skill. He’s definitely a difficult player to beat but mostly because he doesn’t play against highly skilled players. A really skilled short order cook is not the same as a skilled chef. That said, I admire his tennis IQ and find his matches enjoyable to watch.
Gomez Addams once again it is easy to type out those things here. I would love to see a real match between you and MEP. Not a comment war.
MEP is a 4.5 rated player which means he is better than 90% of tennis players. I think that's highly skilled. It's not pro level, but it's pretty darn good.
@@gomezaddams4347 well said. I completely agree
@@michaelp9061 I would love and hate that at the same time. As I’m now in my 60’s I would have real trouble because of the running. I’d probably die. In my mid 40’s I could hold my own with D1 female players at a major Pac 10 school, so I don’t think relative skill would be much of a concern. Sorry you don’t like my opinion but, there it is.
Here is what highly skilled amateurs look like: ua-cam.com/video/QZlwyrG4JAw/v-deo.html
I play in the 65 and over division, and today is the first day I saw a camouflage tennis hat.
I wear a camo cap when playing
If you saw it, it didn't work
What hat? I didn't see a hat
If you put it at 1.5 speed it looks like a regular pro match.
I’m adding a new player to my dream team list
We were able to get one more match (1 set) with MEP Seattle for channel.
Even though he lost the first set, absolutely clutch ace to save set point
MEP is the king of MEP’S
Nice match! I have a question for them. Have they ever broke a string? 😂
Nowadays, very rarely. In high school, when my style of play was very different (S&V both first and second serve), I broke strings every 45 minutes until I switched to Problend.
MEP 2.0s curve ball serve was nuts!
That’s an annoying serve. No one practices returning it. However I once had a tennis coach in juniors that would hit serves like that to me in practice as he said you never know if youMll run into someone who does that...I’m starting to think he must’ve annoyed a lot of opponents with that serve too.
Actually, I was only serving that way because the sun angle made it impossible for me to use my usual serve. In hindsight, I should have considered trying on the good visibility side too, as it works especially well in the deuce court against lefties. I also use it on occasion against strong players who are good at crushing high balls, as it stays below the net and draws people off the court.
There's a good chance that the Washington State Open will be held at the Seattle Tennis Club this year in August. Come and play! Every age division with Open, and the Blue Angels fly over your head during your match.
Actually I'll look into it. Do have an itch to play a couple tournaments - time is the issue. Think that tournament has been around for 100+ years.
At some point, one of you has to want to use good mechanics somewhere deep inside your cyborg pusher brains😆
Then again..I’m sure RF is at home on UA-cam saying, “I had it all wrong man!!”
Just kidding guys, you both have very smart games and this is why so people are watching! Great stuff!
Hell of an overhead on MEP Seattle
i get to watch matches like these every sunday morning in my club. both guys 80 yo
Oh man, MEP barely move his non-dominant arm while swinging !!! He can win a major and hold a cup of hot tea at the same time!
For a moment I thought you had ditched your green shirt Ben. That would've been a trademark infringement of first degree. You will bagel Ian! 💪
Btw, how is it like to taste your own medicine? 💊 😁
Green shirt is the best pusher in the world. No one can beat him with his own game :)
I agree- biased too and that’s ok : ]
Fun to watch. I like your channel. Thanks. IMHO, the strengths or weapons that these MEPs have in common are tenacity, patience, mobility, economy of motion, endurance, consistency and ball placement. MEP Seattle has a very good overhead. Not sure about MEP Atlanta's overhead. Even though this is all very good stuff, I think that the 4.5s in our (non USTA) league would be able to beat them. I'm in the lowest division, by the way, so none of this applies to me. Even when I was in my late 20s in the early and mid '70s, and maybe about a 4.0 or 4.5 USTA equivalent for those days (and I'm being predictably generous with my assessment of myself), I'm pretty sure that these MEPs would run me to exhaustion. Anyway, the reasons that I think that our 4.5s would beat these USTA 4.5 MEPs is because they share all of the good stuff of these MEPs plus almost all of them are in their 20s and 30s, their mobility and endurance is even better than these MEPs, and their serves and groundstrokes are more forcing weapons. But I could be wrong about that. I've played, and lost to, lots of deceptively efficient and effective players, and these MEPs are definitely efficient and effective. Sometimes quite deceptively so. It's always tough to play MEP type players. Their games are much more diverse and polished than the pushers and/or blockers of lower divisions. Also, it's quite an accomplishment to reach, and win in, USTA 4.5 no matter where it is.
MEP = Most Entertaining Player
That was a lot of fun!
I was riveted. Then I had to watch it at 2x speed.
In my opinion only, I think watching tennis videos at 1.25 speed is closer to how it looks in person upclose.
@@TennisTrollChannel good point. I watched it faster because rallies were quite.long.
Oh this is great! I'd probably lose against both of them.
MEP SEATTLE has the same style camo hat in different styles. Talk about consistency!!!!!! I had to rewind to make sure after I noticed the hat change at the 22 min mark! WTH?
I missed this.
*AMAZING* match to watch!
Orange mep is not so mep; he attack a lot from background and don't scare to run to the net... lack of power ok but not passive...
i swear to god if everyone in my 4.5 league transition to this style, I quit
OMG Someone is cloning MEP's and sending them to tennis courts worldwide. --Psychological trauma will be rampant.
😆😆😆
I loved this match. Felt so motivated I went to my local Academy Sports and bought a knife and poked my eyes out....
Wishing I lived in America, to show that this isn’t that hard- call me a keyboard warrior but I’ve faced MEP on steroids- forehand and backhand slice of a pro hitting within 6 inches of the baseline EVERY shot, his knowledge of tennis court dimensions is incredible... may have to ask the bloke to record our match if he’s in my half of the draw on the 30th May
Let’s set up a match!
@@racquetscientist7975 how? I live in the UK
Racquet Scientist lives in Portugal and found a way : ]
@@TennisTrollChannel I’m a uni student, slightly different, I’d be down tho
Ian, I'm sorry, but you are effed. MEP is in top form.
Did green shirt demo the entire prince racket line during this match? I saw a green, black, then blue frame. Orange also switched between a couple frames haha
Maybe Prince should take note : ]
Can you imagine a U.S. Open final being played like this.
It would be awesome.
@@TennisTrollChannel False.
If so, then US Open will be bankrupt next year...
It practically was! Did you see the 2020 Men’s US Open Final??? Thiem and Zverev got so tight at the end. It was painful to watch. I nearly couldn’t believe it for how they normally play.
@@dustyroot4708 good point.
They deserve each other, just like when two left handers
I want to see these two as a doubles team....
I think they would make a solid team. Played doubles off camera afterwards (Seattle and I vs Atlanta and friend). I can see Atlanta setting up Seattle at the net over and over.
Its incredible how competitive these guys can be at this level without an ounce of athleticism in their bodies.
Lol
They aren't completely un-athletic. They can both run, especially the guy in orange, it's just that their strokes look anything but athletic.
Is the ball green?
MEP got a new racquet! What is it? It’s a prince in thinking 100P?
MEP has a new racquet! Prince Textreme Tour something something!
I am exhausted just from watching this match and I am not even moving.
Amazing.
For his otherwise rudimentary skills, Red shirt guy has a decent overhead
A killer overhead and swinging volley are critical in beating a guy like this.