Jim Cornette Reviews The Inner Circle Attacking The Pinnacle on AEW Dynamite

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  • Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
  • From Episode 375 of the Jim Cornette Experience
    Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 735

  • @raoulduke8725
    @raoulduke8725 3 роки тому +149

    Imagine June 1996 Hall and Nash get destroyed 2 weeks after coming in,and saying “we’re taking over”
    the outsiders would be DOA,and the nWo never would of been a thing.

    • @TheLibermania
      @TheLibermania 3 роки тому +2

      Were they beat up or humiliated?

    • @jbellflower83
      @jbellflower83 3 роки тому +30

      @@TheLibermania Not for many, many months. Really the NWO didnt get any retaliation until Sting started attacking them with the baseball bat from the rafters. Almost 2 years after their debut

    • @dustinqueen5096
      @dustinqueen5096 3 роки тому +33

      @@jbellflower83 DDP was the first one to get one over on the nWo when he gave Scott Hall a diamond cutter after he faked joining but it was after about a year of cementing the nWo

    • @jbellflower83
      @jbellflower83 3 роки тому +9

      @@dustinqueen5096 yeah, but that was just DDP getting one guy. I was more talking about the group as a whole getting their comeuppance and Sting was the first one to really take the NWO to task as a group. Those segments of him clearing the ring with the bat got a massive pop and it felt earned as the NWO had been running roughshod over WCW for almost 2 years at that point

    • @genecide6869
      @genecide6869 3 роки тому +12

      Exactly Hall & Nash would have been buried and no ratings war meaning the slow death of wrestling....but that's what AEW is doing with the bullshit they pull weekly

  • @horrorstew3577
    @horrorstew3577 3 роки тому +138

    Jericho's "I'm serious now" face 😂

    • @Kas58223
      @Kas58223 3 роки тому +14

      🤣🤣🤣 after months of doing goofy stuff

    • @scorptarget
      @scorptarget 3 роки тому +2

      😂

  • @TheJaviferrol
    @TheJaviferrol 3 роки тому +79

    I soon as i saw this i knew Jim was gonna go "well, they already had their revenge, so why should i care anymore?"

    • @tigerbug69
      @tigerbug69 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah thats what I thought.

    • @notgonnapay
      @notgonnapay 3 роки тому +10

      Cuz what else do you do? The entirety of the Inner Circle destroyed the Pinnacle.

    • @AWX_Wrestling
      @AWX_Wrestling 3 роки тому +4

      The first thing I thought about was Cornette's story about Russo wanting The Undertaker to chokeslam Kane through a table a week after Kane debuted at Hell in a Cell. I knew based on that, that Cornette would tear this segment apart.

  • @jovanss2361
    @jovanss2361 3 роки тому +21

    "Speaking of obvious and horrible"... annnnnd I'm hooked 😂

  • @anthonyharris4234
    @anthonyharris4234 3 роки тому +48

    Tony Kahn wanted to one up Vince with the quick dismantle of a promising faction

    • @Pigmcginnyrig
      @Pigmcginnyrig 3 роки тому +1

      “Anything you can do, I can do better.”

  • @jonathanevans4686
    @jonathanevans4686 3 роки тому +99

    ADHD booking Tony Khan like a kid at Xmas can’t wait to open the presents - been six months building to this we could have gone another six months - crazy😂

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 роки тому +13

      This is why fantasy forum booking shouldn't be considered for real life.

    • @Kas58223
      @Kas58223 3 роки тому +6

      @@maxxdahl6062 yea no such thing as decent build up could have done the inner circle gone for months and the pinnacle running the show but what do we know

    • @doolbedolc
      @doolbedolc 3 роки тому +11

      Booker of the year with falling ratings,how do you explain that Dave meltzer ?

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 3 роки тому +3

      @@doolbedolc He has to be being paid. And it's something Dave has admitted to doing in the past.

    • @umso4l
      @umso4l 3 роки тому +1

      maxx dahl even Dave has started to turn on aew go look at Jim’s video on why aew fans are so sensitive and Dave finally admits the truth about them

  • @jaybrian9916
    @jaybrian9916 3 роки тому +73

    Nobody used the bathroom that whole time 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @ShitTrinket
      @ShitTrinket 3 роки тому +12

      And nobody heard a peep from 5 guys standing in the bathroom that whole time? Lol

    • @rayslover8526
      @rayslover8526 3 роки тому

      This segment was 25 minutes into the show. I don't pee every 20 minutes. It's completely logical.

    • @user-li3fr8jl3b
      @user-li3fr8jl3b 3 роки тому +3

      @@rayslover8526 of 6 guys none would take a piss or check their looks in the bathroom mirror?? Come on!

  • @tylerdulak9030
    @tylerdulak9030 3 роки тому +20

    This is Tony's booking pattern when it comes to groups. He's done this over and over again. ADD booking.

  • @Smeeeeeghead
    @Smeeeeeghead 3 роки тому +7

    That is why the Shield got over you see: they dunked Roman Reigns' head into a toilet on his second week.

  • @alwaysnmymind4705
    @alwaysnmymind4705 3 роки тому +65

    I don't agree with Jim on everything but this here I agree with. I enjoyed the beat down but I was like wtf it's way toooooo early man. They should have let the pinnacle run rough shot through the company for at least a month smh 🤦

    • @BenisBroductions
      @BenisBroductions 3 роки тому +2

      It was a great brawl that was waaaay too early. I also disagree with jim a lot but idk if there’s any salvaging this

    • @Am71919
      @Am71919 3 роки тому +8

      So because Pinnacle got beat up, that means the feud is over? doesn't anybody think that these two factions are going to keep trading beatdowns week in and week out until they inevitably have a match? What makes Jim cornette think that this feud is over?

    • @alwaysnmymind4705
      @alwaysnmymind4705 3 роки тому

      @@Am71919 Well idk about the rest Jim's talking about but I'm just saying I agree it's to early could have at least waited another week or two. Of course they are going to trade beat downs we all see that coming. The fact of the matter is the pinnacle only had 1 match and their 2nd match is coming up at the house show. They haven't got off the ground good yet to build any heat

    • @Am71919
      @Am71919 3 роки тому +4

      @@alwaysnmymind4705 but Jim cornette's talking like this feud is just completely over

    • @BenisBroductions
      @BenisBroductions 3 роки тому

      @@Am71919 it’s mainly that once the heel gets their come upons most of the money and interest being drawn from the fued is thrown out the window. We already got to see them get their ass kicked and humiliated. Honestly what’s the point of caring about the fued anymore? Mjf got his due. Dude literally got swirlied.

  • @Wahidkhalid
    @Wahidkhalid 3 роки тому +34

    That’s booker of the year for you lol 😂

  • @JD-cp1ku
    @JD-cp1ku 3 роки тому +19

    “pinnacle” - the most successful point; the culmination. So when they formed they were the Pinnacle and then it was all downhill from there.

  • @trevorwright6395
    @trevorwright6395 3 роки тому +144

    R.I.P to The Pinnacle 2021-2021 lmao!!!

    • @lilgenx8361
      @lilgenx8361 3 роки тому +8

      Everyone thinks this was good

    • @lilgenx8361
      @lilgenx8361 3 роки тому +6

      @Cee Wil okay but corny is going overboard with this. It doesn’t mean that the pinnacle is buried at all. Like Brian said a lot of people said it was good because corny is immune to change. And if he knew what was good and how to make it good why doesn’t he have a job then to change the business for the better. He does this podcast for his job, don’t take everything too seriously. But yes I believe khan should of waited a bit more than 2 weeks to do something like this and then set it up for the PPV

    • @kingrama2727
      @kingrama2727 3 роки тому +24

      @@lilgenx8361 who’s everyone? Meltzer and his clowns? The basement dwelling virgin hard core marks like you? Nah it was terrible

    • @lilgenx8361
      @lilgenx8361 3 роки тому +3

      @@kingrama2727 I don’t like meltzer but everyone treats corny like god. If Corny didn’t have anything bad to say about wrestling he would drive in any viewers for his podcast. No one has any patience and just wait for it to play out

    • @kingrama2727
      @kingrama2727 3 роки тому +10

      @@lilgenx8361 but Cornette is right and the ratings prove it. It’s the same 2.5 million marks who arch every week, neither promotion can make new fans and neither ever will. It’s all garbage and marks like you just hate to hear the truth...

  • @forever_nocturne4146
    @forever_nocturne4146 3 роки тому +68

    I thought it was going to be a serious feud and then Jericho and friends were in the bathroom. They really need to get MJF away from Jericho.

    • @lilgenx8361
      @lilgenx8361 3 роки тому +3

      It happened to early but it was segment to embarrass the heels not bury them. Wait it out because fans have no patience

    • @popNfam
      @popNfam 3 роки тому +5

      No they need better booking

    • @benjaminkelln8597
      @benjaminkelln8597 3 роки тому +12

      @@lilgenx8361 this segment shows there is a lack of patience from the booker though. When a new heel stable is formed, they should be beating people up and winning matches like crazy before anyone gets the upper hand on them.

    • @lilgenx8361
      @lilgenx8361 3 роки тому +9

      @@benjaminkelln8597 I agree. Tony Khan is impatient and indecisive Booker

    • @madhatter8508
      @madhatter8508 3 роки тому +3

      Jericho belongs at a retirement home and MJF belongs behind the concession stand.

  • @TriplomatX
    @TriplomatX 3 роки тому +22

    I literally waited for this, I have to give Jim Cornette a ROUND OF APPLAUSE and ENCORE this video. I literally had an argument over this segment defending the Pinnacle and said they stole his heat! And the argument I get back, there has to be a retaliation. Then I ask, then why couldn't MJF break away? They even took out Wardlow, the bodyguard. AEW hates Heat, The End.

    • @Dankbanana1
      @Dankbanana1 3 роки тому +3

      They did this with the Sting and Darby vs team Taz feud too. Last two weeks before the ppv the faces got all the revenge they needed. It made the ppv street fight totally pointless

    • @namelessjedi2242
      @namelessjedi2242 10 місяців тому

      Tonk Khan doesn’t even understand the concept of heat. Being a fan doesn’t mean he knows how to book good wrestling shows.

  • @gamechanger700
    @gamechanger700 3 роки тому +17

    I liked the brawl,but the TIMING WAS WRONG,it should have happened 2 months after Pinnacle has enough heat to the point they can afford to take a beat down

    • @joshuaarmand5236
      @joshuaarmand5236 3 роки тому +6

      Anything logical in AEW is viewed as bad by their fanboys.

  • @jamesd4223
    @jamesd4223 3 роки тому +12

    So Inner Circle, the group that’s getting stale, gets the ultimate win while burying the new fresh heels. I really want AEW to make it but, it’s like one step forward two steps back with them.

  • @benjaminkelln8597
    @benjaminkelln8597 3 роки тому +68

    I said the Inner Circle got their revenge back too soon on Wrestleinc and then AEW fan boys told me that too much longer and it would be ridiculous. What the heck? 😆

    • @forever_nocturne4146
      @forever_nocturne4146 3 роки тому +7

      They're right Inner Circle should have responded already but what should have happend is the Pinnacle stomping them again to make them look strong and let it go on for a little bit more and then have the Inner Circle get a hard fought win on them.

    • @benjaminkelln8597
      @benjaminkelln8597 3 роки тому +8

      @@forever_nocturne4146 I am okay with the idea of the Inner Circle retaliating now, but I agree with you that the Pinnacle should have came out on top. I also said that shoving MJF’s head in the toilet was too much. The AEW fans disagreed with me as they thought it was good for the Pinnacle to have their kamuffins this early.

    • @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393
      @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393 3 роки тому +4

      Exactly if they wanted to do this pinnacle should have came out on top again. Honestly wouldn’t have done this at all. Could have waited another two weeks to do this but still pinnacle comes out on top.

    • @gi79304
      @gi79304 3 роки тому +1

      😂

    • @abealih92
      @abealih92 3 роки тому +11

      Aew fans will tell you either long term booking or need to do it now 😅

  • @maxthemaltesedog3597
    @maxthemaltesedog3597 3 роки тому +9

    The storyline finished before it began 😂. Jericho and MJf really did themselves no favours. How can so many people be in a small bathroom hiding for so long 😂. I have no idea where this will even go now. Jim and Brian are spot on.

  • @matthewbyrd8174
    @matthewbyrd8174 3 роки тому +9

    Aew never cease to amaze me the level of stupidity that will go to that's why I don't watch it

  • @85futureshock
    @85futureshock 3 роки тому +24

    Chris Jericho has become the politicians that he complained about in WCW.
    AEW is slowly turning into WCW where the top guys are gonna start holding down younger stars and i just can’t wait for the ride.

    • @mitchellsommer2321
      @mitchellsommer2321 3 роки тому +2

      How? Come on Man that's a big exaggeration. His Last "Big Win" was against Cody in 2019

    • @jamied4486
      @jamied4486 3 роки тому

      Jericho obviously isnt shit without Mcmahon filtering his ideas

    • @mitchellsommer2321
      @mitchellsommer2321 3 роки тому

      @@jamied4486 Yea That's not true

    • @abhishekacharjee9931
      @abhishekacharjee9931 3 роки тому

      AEW is being run by politicking of Cody, Bucks, Kenny and Jericho.
      Moxley is the only top guy there that seems like an actual nice person and just wants to wrestle

    • @mitchellsommer2321
      @mitchellsommer2321 3 роки тому

      @@abhishekacharjee9931 what politicking does Jericho does again? His Last big win was against Cody in 19

  • @dx91mike
    @dx91mike 3 роки тому +36

    The heels are suppose to get a lot heat for many weeks. The babyfaces are not suppose to get revenge after two weeks. I don't think Tony Kahn has patience. Jericho appearing on WWE network might a sign that he came to senses and realize maybe the Kahn family isn't a good family to work for.

    • @Kas58223
      @Kas58223 3 роки тому +12

      Nah Vince McMahon be telling Jericovid god damn son you need to lose some weight I can’t have you on television looking like this mess

    • @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393
      @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393 3 роки тому +6

      @@Kas58223 he’s fat!

    • @saj8
      @saj8 3 роки тому +6

      The "babyface getting revenge after two weeks" nonsense started with Cody and it FUBAR'd Brody Lee in the process.

    • @greatomeister675
      @greatomeister675 3 роки тому +6

      You go to AEW to get paid and then you go to WWE to create a legacy. AEW is basically WCW

    • @empower5228
      @empower5228 3 роки тому +5

      @@greatomeister675 NOBODY is going to WWE to create a legacy lmfao that just made my whole day hahaha smh 🤦 😂

  • @TheSPEEZY99
    @TheSPEEZY99 3 роки тому +10

    Jericho is just collecting the bag 💰

  • @georgefrancis8602
    @georgefrancis8602 3 роки тому +18

    That feud ended well😂

  • @Onnyji
    @Onnyji 3 роки тому +2

    Although I don’t agree with jim on everything he does point out things that get me thinking, I now hate how nearly every match has a huge spot where one guy does a crossbody onto like 10 but they stand about for 2 minutes to catch them

  • @johnnygrind77
    @johnnygrind77 3 роки тому +14

    Dax had to get stitches on the top of his head, too. I don't even remember what happened to him.

    • @RVMan985
      @RVMan985 3 роки тому +5

      He was hit with a barstool by Santana. It was botched.

    • @johnnygrind77
      @johnnygrind77 3 роки тому

      @@RVMan985 Thank you for saying what happened, I appreciate it! What is it with guys from the Inner Circle and botching to the point of bloodshed?

    • @RVMan985
      @RVMan985 3 роки тому

      @@johnnygrind77 Well, Jericho is supposed to be the one coaching them, but then again he botches a lot himself. There is no justification for the recklessness on display. They are all veterans of the sport and yet they potato and hard bleed people. I would say it's because there is no one there to be the locker room enforcer but Jericho, Kenny, The Young Bucks and Cody are the enforcers in the locker room. However, they botch all of the time. They set the standard and expect it to go higher. It doesn't.

  • @TheWill1225
    @TheWill1225 3 роки тому +25

    The AEW have no idea what they are doing

    • @harryborded5294
      @harryborded5294 3 роки тому

      Them blind fans will always defend this trash and being a hypocrite at the same timr

  • @tmcfootball96
    @tmcfootball96 3 роки тому +5

    (2:07) That was not beer Jericho poured on MJF, it was a bottle of "The Taste of the Bubbly."

  • @teapulp
    @teapulp 3 роки тому +19

    "Hey, these guys get positive attention when we don't! Let's bury them!" - Chris "Helmsley" Jericho

    • @Run187
      @Run187 3 роки тому +4

      Buried more young talent than the man with 3 hs 😁..

  • @CocoWilliamsAJ
    @CocoWilliamsAJ 3 роки тому +6

    😂😂😂 at Jim calling Rey Fenix, “Felix”.
    That dude will always be Felix now.

  • @Ted_Bell
    @Ted_Bell 3 роки тому +5

    Jericho teams up with A.J. they have a turn and a feud. Jericho teams up with KO. They have a turn and a feud. Jericho wants to team with Moxley. They have a turn and a feud. Etc etc. Broken record.

  • @Run187
    @Run187 3 роки тому +4

    I wonder who's going thru that gimmick glass on the Pepsi fridge, with no Pepsi in it was my first thought..

  • @carloslozada470
    @carloslozada470 3 роки тому +9

    Don't have to listen to know Cornette will hate this

    • @nihilozero
      @nihilozero 3 роки тому

      Jim & Brian sounded like a couple marks in this segment. They're all bent out of shape because their favorites got beat up by some guys they dislike.

    • @stevencoil9831
      @stevencoil9831 3 роки тому +2

      He didn’t hate the brawl he hated it for being done too soon

    • @nihilozero
      @nihilozero 3 роки тому

      @@stevencoil9831 The assumption is that it can't be topped and one faction was completely buried forever. I'm not convinced that's the case. And Corny making it out to be SUCH A BIG DEAL is what makes him sound like a mark.

  • @ChristopherJames1993
    @ChristopherJames1993 3 роки тому +12

    "The worst is yet to come."

    • @druidmann
      @druidmann 3 роки тому +3

      Truer words have never been spoken in total nonsense all egregious worst championship wrestling

  • @thegod1067
    @thegod1067 3 роки тому +17

    I see what cornettes saying- Longevity makes more sense- it felt like they gave us everything.

    • @Smackrackle
      @Smackrackle 3 роки тому

      Right. At this point how much stuff could the heels possibly do to get equal payback

    • @AaronLesterMedia
      @AaronLesterMedia 3 роки тому

      It's called Crack Head booking. These idiots need ratings and they blown their biggest feud already. Smh. Tiny Con is a crack head.

    • @MrJack1992
      @MrJack1992 3 роки тому

      @@AaronLesterMedia crackhead booking what are you talking about. The pinnacle vs the inner circle is great booking a heel vs heel fight would be nice.

    • @MrJack1992
      @MrJack1992 3 роки тому

      I mean in a normal situation where one can have a full stadium you can produce a mediocre match make a profit with the tickets and build up a fan base through time.
      But this is during covid and until a literal revolution occurs I'm not seeing it come back.

  • @johns3491
    @johns3491 3 роки тому +9

    It was a great backstage segment, however this beatdown came WAY too early for Pinnacle. This would have been fine maybe after several weeks of build-up for Pinnacle, however they have yet to truly prove their dominance (aside from massacring the Inner Circle once). This made them come off looking weak, at least as of right now. My guess is Pinnacle retaliates next week, but we'll see how it plays out.

    • @thecake6635
      @thecake6635 3 роки тому

      Exactly, these things always happen a month later

    • @CASHGOTJUICE
      @CASHGOTJUICE 3 роки тому

      I think they ran out of ideas had to do a brawl start the build for the next ppv

  • @TuMalditaMadre
    @TuMalditaMadre 3 роки тому +10

    Thoroughly convinced once Tony Khan comes up with an idea that's what's going, there's no talking him out of it.

    • @Smackrackle
      @Smackrackle 3 роки тому +2

      Honestly I don’t even think it’s just him. I’m sure most other people in the office also think it’s brilliant writing

    • @donaldpaluga
      @donaldpaluga 3 роки тому +2

      You think if Vince pulled the same thing on RAW Corny would 💩 on him? I doubt it.

    • @stevencoil9831
      @stevencoil9831 3 роки тому +1

      @Charming Billy your right but these aew fanboys always wanna play the victim

    • @abhishekacharjee9931
      @abhishekacharjee9931 3 роки тому +1

      I think it's more Jericho than TK, I definitely don't think TK has enough balls or brain to book a storyline, Jericho probably thought it was a good idea to make him and his stable look strong, and obviously TK agrees to whatever the fuck Jericho, Cody, or The Elite pitch

    • @abhishekacharjee9931
      @abhishekacharjee9931 3 роки тому +1

      @@donaldpaluga
      He absolutely blasted WWE for letting Miz winning the title, he thrashed Sheamus V Drew match which was liked by many, he bashes Asuka for some reason, he hates Bad Bunny.
      Jim is quite neutral on his shitting on modern wrestling, you may or may not agree with him. And if you see him bashing AEW more than WWE, it's because he thinks AEW is just shittier

  • @shaunkenneally7597
    @shaunkenneally7597 3 роки тому +2

    FTR must really hate HHH and the WWE to sign with AEW.

  • @johnwade7963
    @johnwade7963 3 роки тому +1

    Jericho has become the AEW version of Hulk Hogan circa 1998

  • @zaksnoop4441
    @zaksnoop4441 3 роки тому +5

    The top new group getting battered on 2 weeks in 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️so bad

    • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
      @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 роки тому

      I read about it and went, wtf, why?

    • @jwnj9716
      @jwnj9716 3 роки тому +4

      They just started. Stupid decision.

    • @zaksnoop4441
      @zaksnoop4441 3 роки тому +2

      @@downwithputinsaveukraine1313 init, it was painful to watch

    • @zaksnoop4441
      @zaksnoop4441 3 роки тому +1

      @@jwnj9716 0 excitement in this show

  • @ryankirk2180
    @ryankirk2180 3 роки тому +1

    Honestly I agree.. It looks like the new baby face Inner Cirlce members are more over than the Pinnacle..

  • @dpradis
    @dpradis 3 роки тому +1

    Jericho dragging down MJF continues! As long as he’s there Tony Khan will let him do as he pleases.

  • @raymondhuggins780
    @raymondhuggins780 3 роки тому +7

    JIM BE HAVING ME DYIN!!!! Jim: They did all of that....all of that....and it lasted 2 weeks!!! I think everybody that had something to do with this is out of their rabbit ass mind😂💀😂💀

  • @michaelconnors7668
    @michaelconnors7668 3 роки тому +2

    I am old enough to remember when the Horsemen went to the Rock & Roll Express's locker room to congratulate Ricky Morton after he scored a pinfall victory over Ric Flair. The Horseman were being good sports when they were jumped by Ricky and Robert. They had no choice--they had to defend themselves.

  • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
    @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 роки тому +22

    The Pinnacle got buried. Hard.
    It's gonna be difficult to see them as any kind of threat. They lost the first real fight they got and each one suffered a massive humiliation.
    We're not talking about cowardly heels fleeing the scene. They got brutalized, pleaded and busted all in one night. It's over.
    #threecountcommentaries

    • @eastwaters4082
      @eastwaters4082 3 роки тому +1

      I mean they caught the Inner Circle off guard, they only got it dished back the exact same.
      Stop using the word buried.

    • @TheMagnificentMongoSlade
      @TheMagnificentMongoSlade 3 роки тому +7

      @@eastwaters4082
      They were humiliated. Buried. They shouldn't even be getting beaten up at all after only 2 weeks

    • @dungeon-wn4gw
      @dungeon-wn4gw 3 роки тому +3

      @@eastwaters4082
      Just because the heels do it doesn't mean the baby faces can do it. The whole point of being a heel is that you do dastardly things and evading capture and punishment only to then finally get whats coming to them (even though I dont believe in revenge its entertainment)

    • @JohnnyInJapan
      @JohnnyInJapan 3 роки тому +4

      You marks need to stop using insider terms that you don't even understand.

    • @siddharth1200
      @siddharth1200 3 роки тому +5

      @@eastwaters4082 now the heels have no heat and no one can take them seriously after that humiliation

  • @steelenigma17
    @steelenigma17 3 роки тому +1

    Ladies and Gentlemen the booker of the year. They have two group beat downs in one show. And they rushed the inner circle coming back because he didn't want jericho off tv to long obviously. But they could of kept them off for a month. And waited for this beat down of the heels at three to four months later in a blood and guts match

  • @ladadavidson7926
    @ladadavidson7926 3 роки тому +1

    When you really think about all the matches in AEW these days, you have to wonder: Why do they have a ring? Nothing is settled in there, so why bother putting up a ring anymore?

  • @dungeon-wn4gw
    @dungeon-wn4gw 3 роки тому +3

    Atleast Vince McMahan was upfront about making FTR into a joke and embarassing them.

    • @gqn2
      @gqn2 3 роки тому +2

      FTR got bamboozled, hoodwinked, led stray, run amok and down right deceived by Tony Khan and All Friends Wrestling.

    • @dungeon-wn4gw
      @dungeon-wn4gw 3 роки тому +1

      @@gqn2
      That is my favorite phrase. Stephen A Smith isn't even a real human.

    • @Thebestoutthere
      @Thebestoutthere 3 роки тому +1

      Because the revival are just like every marks like, boring wrestlers. Vince was right when he said that the revival are just 2 good professional wrestlers. That’s it.

  • @mdhsyracuse
    @mdhsyracuse 3 роки тому +4

    Seems to me Inner Circle vs Pinnacle is just starting up and this will be a 3 month thing. I agree it'll be tough to top the dressing room brawl but it'll be interesting to see them try!

    • @gullyblanchard5750
      @gullyblanchard5750 3 роки тому

      You have to literally kill someone to top this lol

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 3 роки тому

      Gonna be a backstage fight on dynamite this Wednesday

  • @Am71919
    @Am71919 3 роки тому +2

    So because Pinnacle got beat up that means the feud is over? Jim come on man 😂😂😂😂

    • @mr.sadist6733
      @mr.sadist6733 3 роки тому +2

      No His point is this fued need some time
      They rushed it but I love the beatdown

    • @harryborded5294
      @harryborded5294 3 роки тому +2

      AEW sucks at feuding. Admit it

    • @mr.sadist6733
      @mr.sadist6733 3 роки тому +1

      @@harryborded5294 ok I admit

  • @jb0609
    @jb0609 3 роки тому +1

    AEWs booking of this feud is so awful

  • @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG
    @that.canadian.vaper.guyTCVG 3 роки тому +2

    In angles like this, Tony Khans inexperience really shows. And before you read further, I'm an AEW fan. I am a fan of pro wrestling in general and I dont care if it is AEW, WWE, NWA, NJPW, ROH, Impact, etc, if it's good then I can watch it. Now that that's out of the way, I can continue.
    But Tony Khan. The problem here is that he is inexperienced with booking. He has great ideas and pulls some great things off, but the problem is his execution. The angles and storylines are okay, with the exception of some, eg the Womens division, best friends and Miro and kip and so on. His ideas are great, but the execution of the angles are rushed or handled weirdly.
    The Inner Circle and Pinnacle fued could have been a fued of the year contender with the talent involved, but this was rushed. Pinnacle should have been dominating for a month or 2 and towards the end, have Sammy or Santana and Ortiz return alone and have the Pinnacle bully them. Then we see the Pinnacle beat them down for a couple of weeks and then the group reunites to match numbers. Then this fight could have proceeded as it did on Dynamite, with it leading to a Blood and Guts match, because you know that's what they're heading for.
    You would think that Jericho or FTR would know that this is rushed and said to hold the beatdown back for awhile. It was alright for what it was, but it could have been a hell of a lot better if they gave the angle time to breathe.

    • @KdOdom7
      @KdOdom7 3 роки тому

      YOU GET IT....THANK YOU!

  • @OhhSooSicc
    @OhhSooSicc 3 роки тому +1

    You know when Jim’s over something he always says “thanks for Effin’ coming’”

  • @damienthorne3012
    @damienthorne3012 3 роки тому +1

    Give credit to AEW for knowing the perfect location for such a shitty angle.

  • @JBrad-ht2sx
    @JBrad-ht2sx 3 роки тому +5

    Wow, Jericho is really jealous of MJF. He's stifled every bit of momentum that MJF has gained for himself. Throwing his weight around like the nWo did in 90s WCW.

  • @Surfword
    @Surfword 3 роки тому +3

    Most aew fans are so desperate for anything in america that's isn't roh tna wwe mlw that they'll lap any shit up and tell you it was filet mignon with the side of caviar

    • @vernessalkic1065
      @vernessalkic1065 3 роки тому +1

      No it’s all the same fans watching this shitt. There is no more new wrestling fans. Pro wrestling is dead!

  • @scottfleenor4409
    @scottfleenor4409 3 роки тому +2

    Man MJF went from being the best young heel with potential to be a mega star. Now if he realizes it or not, he'll never live that down.

    • @-JAVY-
      @-JAVY- 3 роки тому +1

      Hes the new mizz

  • @al5306
    @al5306 3 роки тому

    I counted and there are 12 factions in AEW right now: 1) Inner Circle 2) Nightmare Family 3) Pinnacle 4) Dark Order 5) Jurassic Express 6) Team Taz 7) Super Elite 8) Death Triangle 9) The Pretty Picture 10) Best Friends 11) Hardy Family Office and 12) QT's thing.
    Jesus Christ...

  • @abalogan
    @abalogan 3 роки тому +2

    If you hear the aew fanboys you will die, as far as they are concerned this was Gold, WhatCulture gave this show a "Golden Up" cus "This made me feel good in my Tum-tum" Wrestling is beyond dead in USA.....

  • @insupportofjunhado
    @insupportofjunhado 3 роки тому

    Vinny Vegas: War Machine come out for the stare down with Kingdom because you see the winners of the first great match and the winners of the second great match are now going to fight each other in the pay per view. How novel.
    Bryan Alvarez: Crazy!

  • @kovulion7777
    @kovulion7777 3 роки тому +1

    You have to realize, AEW knows their audience, the wanna rush to the climax or else they'll get bored if no one jumps, heel turns ,forms a faction or does a dive or does a superkick

  • @nicholasmantia5031
    @nicholasmantia5031 3 роки тому +4

    I know Jim & Brian dont watch NJPW but I'd love to hear their reaction on Will Ospreay vs. Kota Ibushi today.......

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 3 роки тому

      What happened during the match? I've seen some of Will's work from the World of Sport revival so I'm curious about what he's been doing since that ended.

    • @nicholasmantia5031
      @nicholasmantia5031 3 роки тому

      @@tempestfennac9687 Will won the new title from Kota.....

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 3 роки тому

      @@nicholasmantia5031 I see thanks. I liked his work so I'm not as upset about it as King Slayer seems to be.

    • @antonywatson9714
      @antonywatson9714 3 роки тому +1

      @King Slayer hahahahahaha say more things Jim says.

  • @IanSane
    @IanSane 3 роки тому

    A positive reaction to the faces getting revenge on free TV kind of makes sense. "Yeah! I got to see the heroes beat the heels without having to pay for it!" Having Hogan beat Andre on TV would have been stupid for business but I would have still enjoyed it as a fan.
    If this Jericho's idea, let's remember that Jericho is a veteran from the previous generation. If you were someone that understood wrestling and you had a bunch of goofs that were so clueless that they would let you make them look like complete fools wouldn't you take advantage? It wouldn't be hard in such an environment to ensure that you're booked as a bigger star than everyone else.

  • @austinewing2700
    @austinewing2700 3 роки тому

    Here’s an idea...how about this. You give it a two or three months until you see ANYONE from the Inner Circle. The Pinnacle runs roughshod over all of AEW with no stopping them in sight. Then, you bring back everyone in the Inner Circle...except Jericho. His beating he got from the Pinnacle was worse than anyone else’s so have him actually sell his injuries more (crazy idea). The Inner Circle is able to fight with the Pinnacle but every week besides a few, the Pinnacle goes over. Furthermore driving home the fact that the Inner Circle DESPERATELY need their leader back. THEN, after months of Jericho being gone, you do this backstage brawl except have him be the one behind the front door instead of Hager. This brawl itself wasn’t bad, I actually thought it was good, just way way too soon. AEW doesn’t even give us a chance to miss the guys who just got killed two weeks previously

  • @user-jv7gr1jb3r
    @user-jv7gr1jb3r 3 роки тому +1

    Tony “Killing The Business” Khan
    He is the greatest heel ever. He didn’t even need a tennis racket.

  • @BWalker9313
    @BWalker9313 3 роки тому

    I GUARANTEE.
    This week it'll be a big in ring promo from the inner circle, and they'll talk a bunch of shit, and you won't see pinnacle.
    NEXT WEEK.
    It'll be a match between someone of the inner circle and possibly someone from pinnacle with a big giant fucking brawl at the end and maybe some security come to break it up, but probably not they'll just fight off.
    And they'll keep doing this brawling, one-upping each other every week until the PPV. But there's no point because pinnacle just got the fucking shit beat out of them. So wouldn't they just call it even? What's the fucking point now?

  • @thegolem9325
    @thegolem9325 3 роки тому

    MJF is not the best young heel in the business. It's Jay White's era, and we're just living in it.

  • @MrCamp
    @MrCamp 3 роки тому

    Fast forward: a 10 man “street fight” in a McDonalds Playplace.

  • @toxiciwctweets5191
    @toxiciwctweets5191 3 роки тому +19

    I enjoyed the brawl ngl

    • @br-jj6re
      @br-jj6re 3 роки тому

      Should have never happened, feel like my time has been wasted again

    • @dungeon-wn4gw
      @dungeon-wn4gw 3 роки тому +1

      If you isolate the clip without the context of the episodes surrounding it, then yeah its pretty good atleast for an AEW segment.

    • @florida_guy03
      @florida_guy03 3 роки тому +7

      Brawl was good, timing was bad

    • @christophercamacho8074
      @christophercamacho8074 3 роки тому

      I think the brawl should have happened, but later in the feud. I was thinking just building up the Pinnacle this month and whenever the pay-per-view comes, the brawl would happen then before it to gain momentum for the IC.

    • @florida_guy03
      @florida_guy03 3 роки тому

      @@christophercamacho8074 that’s how it should have happened

  • @EmmettXIV
    @EmmettXIV 3 роки тому +1

    Inner Circle buried The Pinnacle

  • @starcade90
    @starcade90 3 роки тому +1

    It's not over.

  • @dk13_yt
    @dk13_yt 3 роки тому +5

    The Pinnacle vs Inner Circle on a toilet break match to determine the owner of backstage room. Book it Jim!!
    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @empower5228
    @empower5228 3 роки тому +1

    If this were WWE, I could maaaaaaaybe understand a long af duration for fans to wait to see any kinda revenge for a heel wrecking a face or any progress they might make (ie. HHH vs literally anyone for years while part of Evolution) but in AEW they're trying out multiple things while trying to adapt to fans during a pandemic. We all know they're gonna do things to appeal to their established fan base but they're simply too damn new to wait around for months or longer to pull the trigger on storylines and rivalries. The Inner Circle was considered unstoppable for their first year but as MJF pointed out they were being too silly, funny, goofy, and not legit bosses as heels which he took advantage of when he created the Pinnacle with Tully Blanchard. The whole segment with the Inner Circle firing back almost right away against the Pinnacle was clearly meant to shut down any momentum they were hoping to achieve at the expense of the Inner Circle, and while that might not be practical or good for the Pinnacle, it was obviously the fire lit underneath the collective arses of the Inner Circle. Let's just wait and see what becomes of this. MJF and Jericho and Tully know what they're doing with all this. Have some faith people and enjoy the madness unfolding each week hahaha

  • @ibexthegoat3112
    @ibexthegoat3112 3 роки тому +1

    I haven't listened to this yet.... but there has to be a good god damed answer as to why Jim is holding a pepsi and not a sprite.

  • @Ted_Bell
    @Ted_Bell 3 роки тому +4

    Tony "Premature payoff" Khan

  • @bendaniels8505
    @bendaniels8505 3 роки тому +1

    I understand jim regarding hiding in the bathroom but come on. It was fucking awesome! Brawls all that night, good old attitude era days. Was a brilliant show!

  • @Rudy04
    @Rudy04 3 роки тому +3

    So....the Inner Cirlce are faces now? And didn't Sammy quit? This is worse than breaking up The Hurt Business

    • @antonywatson9714
      @antonywatson9714 3 роки тому +1

      Not really. If you ever spend time watching the show they were over anyway. The turn was inevitable.

    • @6ANUR34DT81S
      @6ANUR34DT81S 3 роки тому

      Lol yeah, they're over with the paid audience/locker room

    • @harryborded5294
      @harryborded5294 3 роки тому

      @@antonywatson9714 Once again blind AEW fan will defend anything. Not surprise

    • @antonywatson9714
      @antonywatson9714 3 роки тому

      @@harryborded5294 not really lol

  • @sirdzl7105
    @sirdzl7105 3 роки тому

    Remember the dippin dots gimmick? Don't expect them to book anything seriously

    • @kingsleyrams742
      @kingsleyrams742 3 роки тому

      That segment made dipping dots a lot of money and aew dipping dots sponsorship

  • @geneanthony3421
    @geneanthony3421 3 роки тому

    The Pinnacle group actually felt like an a real group (wrestling old schoolers with a Horsemen vibe), on the other hand I don't get why Jericho's group was ever a thing. The members didn't seem in any way an organic group and were put together to fight the Elite. I saw the segment and didn't think much of it but I have to agree with Cornette. Where the hell do you go from here, feels like that Russo idea of Taker chokeslamming Kane through a table right after Kane debutted idea.

  • @jacobboss8919
    @jacobboss8919 3 роки тому +1

    This is Jerichos Ego wanting to be on top that ruins the Pinnacle success, I hope this isnt the payoff for this heel group.

  • @dave1105
    @dave1105 3 роки тому

    Absolutely agree. Tony made MJF’s new group look like f**** chumps.

  • @brettperry3737
    @brettperry3737 3 роки тому

    The problem is, it doesn't matter what they do, all their little fans get on Twitter and shower them with praise like it's the greatest f'n thing to ever happen in pro wrestling. And anyone who criticizes it and states the obvious, gets a reaction like they just committed heresy during the Spanish inquisition.

  • @ericjennette6249
    @ericjennette6249 3 роки тому

    I can't speak for everyone's place of work but of course we have bubily right next to the Pepsi machine!

  • @jtg1972
    @jtg1972 3 роки тому

    Remember folks, this ENTIRE company's foundation is predicated on a cheap bet between Cody and Meltzer, so....I guess you get what you pay for!🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @alexsmardz8857
    @alexsmardz8857 3 роки тому

    I can’t believe Dave Meltzer built up such a reputation to then tarnish it by being such an AEW fanboy

  • @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393
    @scottthegeneticfreaksteine393 3 роки тому +1

    What’s the excuse(s) AEW marks using for killing pinnacle?

  • @JohnnyInJapan
    @JohnnyInJapan 3 роки тому

    What the fuck does this guy expect them to do? Not get revenge literally the next week? How is it "over"? They're literally going to keep fighting next week.

  • @jonnybrotten1290
    @jonnybrotten1290 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for coming, and as frequently heard by guyla rose and kenny osmega, thanks for swallowing!

  • @Daxter-hl7dw
    @Daxter-hl7dw 3 роки тому

    The segment was fucking stupid but respect to Dax and Shawn Spears for basically bashing their heads into everything to try and make it look decent. Guevara's brawling looked awful but Spears hitting the walls head first almost saved it, but then you realize how big of a burial and waste of time it was.
    This was basically the Nexus 2021.

  • @TeefrmGA
    @TeefrmGA 3 роки тому

    Straight out da bathroom. Love this thimbnail. Lol

  • @absoluteart6766
    @absoluteart6766 3 роки тому

    Next the Pinnacle has got to retaliate. Would it have been better to wait a month or two before the inner circle comes back, probably, still enjoyed it though and I think the inner circle is showing how tough they are by making a come back so quickly. I think this is the start of a great long feud between the inner circle and the pineapple. Also everything Chris Jericho touches doesn't turn to shit, there's greatness wherever he goes, maybe you don't like the guy but you can't deny how great Jericho is!!

  • @ELPRES1DENTE45
    @ELPRES1DENTE45 3 роки тому

    Jericho is the absolute worst veteran in the industry at this point. He is doing nothing to elevate the company, the younger talent, or anyone that he's involved with in any way/shape/form whatsoever. The only thing he's bringing up are COVID exposure rates and his belt size. He's been a hack for years, and to anyone that can't put down the Kool-Aid is completely lying to themselves.

  • @noeljr.7724
    @noeljr.7724 3 роки тому

    The formation of the new group was even done wrong. Storyline wise... MJF planned to take over the Inner Circle. That was his plan. He would lead them to beat Jericho and they'd go to the back with him as the new leader. However, Jericho already knew what was going to happen so MJFs plan didn't work out. But wait... MJF actually has another group coming out to help him?!? What was the plan if MJFs Inner Circle plan had actually worked out? Was this other group of guys going to team up with them to make a super group? It just made no sense that MJF would have another group of guys waiting at the curtain while he was planning to take over the Inner Circle.

  • @ChrisManley1994
    @ChrisManley1994 3 роки тому

    I said this too, if The Inner Circle have already kicked the shit out of The Pinnacle (most notably of course is MJF getting his comeuppance) why should we keep watching?

  • @davidratty2242
    @davidratty2242 3 роки тому

    Every Jim said is 100% accurate. Storyline over.

  • @BabyCee713
    @BabyCee713 3 роки тому +1

    Nope. Wwe breaking up The Hurt Business is worse

  • @brettheath7127
    @brettheath7127 3 роки тому

    for fuck sakes can wwe or aew hire Jim already because the wrestling industry is completely fucked currently and us fans deserve better. where the fuck is the psychology these days

  • @locman6228
    @locman6228 3 роки тому +1

    Sorry MJF looks like the rest of the other goofballs on this show. I don't see it.

  • @Ai14106
    @Ai14106 3 роки тому +1

    Buries young heel in toilet water

  • @Pigmcginnyrig
    @Pigmcginnyrig 3 роки тому

    The reaction to the segment on AEW’s channel has a positive reaction, and I mean an *VERY* positive reaction. I don’t know what to think anymore.