Kayo ATV and Kayo Dirt Bikes - Because You Asked...
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- So today we are talking about Kayo ATVs and Kayo Dirt bikes because you asked for it! I have experience selling, riding, and trying to work on Kayo offroad vehicles so I will give you my perspective on this. The Kayo Bull 125, bull 150, and bull 200 were the best selling models in the ATV segment while the Kayo 230 and kayo 250 dirt bikes just didn't do well at all.
Chinese ATVs and Chinese dirt bikes are a pretty basic premise...you get what you pay for.
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I live in WA and the used dirt bike market is ridiculous right now.. People want $3k for their 20 year old bikes that are clapped out. Seen an ad for brand new Kayo 230 dirt bikes for $2400 so thats why im here lol
Well for the price it might be a great bike for you! As i said you usually either get a great one, or one that will require fixing regularly...it's a dice roll. At least you can usually get parts, so if that's your best option for the money in your area and you are willing to work in it if needed, then it's not the worst thing out there
The used bike market is insane right now
Welll I ended up looking at one and with the added taxes and fees I couldn’t pull the trigger. The build quality was too cheap to justify $3k. Maybe if it was $1500 I would have.
richard opfer Look at the GPX Moto bikes
Shop in Salem Oregon has no fees and no tax, until you get your atv pass for WA anyway. Might be worth the trip.
I think Chinese bikes are going to be the way to go with the dealerships charging thousands over msrp. The Chinese bikes are getting better.
Alex, we are a dealership that has been selling them for about a year. Thus far, we have had very few "come backs", and even in the COVID-19 year, parts have not been a problem. The only real problem has been getting enough units to meet demand. I was pretty concerned about the quality and sustainability, but several dealers I talked to indicated experience just like what we have seen. I think it must make a difference when the owner of the company has a Honda engineering background, and understands what is necessary to provide and support a reasonable quality product. We also sell Honda, so it has been interesting to compare the sales volumes and results. It will be interesting to see how things work over time, but at this point we are fairly convinced that while you get what you pay for, it may still be a pretty good value proposition. Best regards, and keep up the good work!
@🎲 L U C K Y 🎲 its a problem of assembler, not the factory
PDI, and ‘preventative’ maintenance goes a very long way!
I learned exactly nothing, you should be a politician
Well i'm buying a Kayo predator 125 for my son, for his first ATV. I looked everywhere for a used ATV "name brand" and couldn't find anything worth buying. They were either beat the hell out off or they wanted a couple fingers for the price. Found a 85 HONDA FOURTRAX 50. These crazy people wanted 2K$ for it, but it was in nice shape. So I talked to a friend of mine, who's family owns a Harley Dealership, I told him I started looking into these KAYOs. He told me he has 3 of them. Bought 2 for his sons and 1 for himself. Said he never had any problems with them. Still has them he said. He said yeah little things will have to be fixed but as long as u take care of them, like any bike, they'll last a long time. Then I found out my other friend bought his kid a Chinese 110 panther a couple yrs ago, used, and he hasn't had any problems with his.
So I figured what the hell, for my kids first ATV that he's probably going to out grow in a few years, why the hell not. Plus it beats spending damn near 4K$ for a ATV that my kid will probably outgrow in a few yrs.
my cousin has a kayo 70cc it runs amazing the handling is amazing the quality is amazing its very good overall
My son has a K6 250 and it runs awesome. He has had Honda and Kawasaki bikes and this bike is every bit as good as them. Runs strong and he performs equally as good as his buddies who rides the Japanese bikes. We have had no issues so far and he rides it hard and has had it for over a year now.
Where does he buy parts such as sprockets for them?
@@m75555 did you ever find sprockets?
We have three of these bikes, K2, K4 and K6EFI. We absolutely love them. We do mainly trail and off road riding. You can buy aftermarket parts for these, we've found it's mainly KTM and Honda. The biggest problem I've noticed with these is they're target market is entry level buyers which also means inexperienced. It doesn't matter what brand of bike you bought I personally believe you gotta go through it, and double check bolts, fluid levels and get it set up for the rider. The engine oil in these should be replaced after one hour. I know that might sound crazy to some people but any new engine no matter the manufacturer is going to have a break in period where you'll want to get rid of that oil. You can avoid allot of problems with proper maintenance.
No, you are right on, you should always change your oil on a new bike after the first hour of breaking it in, and you should repeat this at least three times to make sure you get all those shavings out once you break in the engine, after that it's every 10 hours of riding, at least that's what I do.
Which oil do you use for your k6 efi? I have been trying to find it but with no luck
@@bombzgoboom2 same bro have you figured it out ?
@@alexayala6720 Rotella T4
Does the E6 come with turning signals
I have a Kayo Kt 250 and I love it. I modified to a new performance pipe and had to re-jett it is all. This thing comes off the floor super lean due to caliifornia emissions so def. needs jetted. The stock pipe has little power to it. Soon as i upgraded pipe and jetts This thing rips and feels like a true 250. No issues and i've had it for over a year and a half! Can't beat the price for these machines!
I've had a kayo for about a year I've done a few mods to it and it hasn't missed a beat since i got it
Would u recommend getting one
I currently owned a 200cc Kayo Bull with about 340 miles and so far I have no issue with it. I did my first oil change at 150 miles and it runs well. I’m satisfied with the brand Kayo
Update - I’m at 447 miles, did my second oil change and it still runs very well. My electric starter button got a bit loose but it’s no big deal. I’m glad I got a Kayo.
How’s it going now , I’m looking into buying one and I don’t know about the build quality
@@pablodev4934 it’s still going good, runs well. I would really recommend one, just don’t push it too much and do the basic maintenance. Sorry for a one month late reply lol
Are there handlebar vibrations?
hows the bull 200 holding up now thinking about buying one!
I have a Kayo and I have had zero problems with it but the chain it got very loose and kept popping but it was super easy to fix
I have 4 quads by kayo. 2 125s and 2 70s so far the kids love them and we haven't had any major issues yet weve had them about 8 months
Awesome to hear it! If I keep hearing about good luck quality wise from people than it may give me hope for less expensive Chinese made offroad stuff for the future!
I still have my 2003 Honda XR250 with a 280 kit. The bike still looks runs like new.... think I will hang on to it.
While I totally agree with you, around here (Wisconsin) you can’t find a used KLX, CRF, XT, TW, TTR etc, and if you do happen to stumble across one (especially since Covid) then seller wants the same price or a couple hundred dollars within a new Kawi, Honda, Yam.
It’s like this ‘toy game’ is always, “Oh that’s pretty cool, BUT, for just a little more you can get......
Kayo is the manufacturer of Kayo..
im a manager of 2 chineese atv dirt bike stores and i love your honesty
The reliable issue is due to the packing oil (we always change oil) the other issues are the motor mount and lock tight on all bolts, and we always pull bolts and lock tight, ive never had an issue with them doing the pre del checks.
The head engineer from Honda developed Kayo and they have quality authentic parts like Mikuni for instance . I don’t think you are as qualified as you think you are on talking about this brand
Be that as it may, I sold and worked on them for almost 2 years and my personal experiences were as described in the video. A couple years of personal experience is more than enough qualification.
The head engineer was only there for 10 years. Thats a fair amount of time, but that aint no veteran.
Kayo is made by kayo designed by an ex honda developer. You should have done some research first. There shiting on ktm I own an efi 250 and 250 2stroke monster bikes
I just bought my first dirt bike and it's a kayo k2 230, runs pretty good. Im not an experience rider, but I love it. Thanks for the info.
same but i got a 125cc and it runs great
@@Cardinal11 i got a 250cc in europe from kayo and i love it
@@Cardinal11 same how fast does it go 4 u?
@@realzari have not tryed too goo full speed I just started riding sorry
@@Cardinal11 i just started last christmas to
I am new at looking into Kayo, so maybe what am going to say is of no use. You are the first one I have heard that said anything negative. In the one conversation that someone said something negative, the original poster came back to say that his problem was a loose wire and since that time had no issues. I realize that videos from dealers are going to be favorable so they can sell them and just the opposite from dealers who don't sell them. I've looked at one and it looks pretty nice if I do say so. Haven't ridden or owned one yet so that is a limiting factor. Thanks for the video.
LaVern
Omg mate, "cheaper" means 4-5 time cheaper then anything else, this Kayo worth buying, especially if you can hold a wrench in your hand.
Love the Thumbnail 😆
Hahahahaha thanks
I lived in the Dominican Rep for about 4 yrs back when I was like 11-15. That's when I really got into motorcycles. Back then it was all Japanese bikes... went recently and it's mostly Chinese bikes (Tauro, 4K acts). Prices are probably the main reasons I bet as these cost half of the other main brands.
Your correct pronunciation of Tao-Tao gives you mucho credibility !
Mr Bighogman said it; I agree having owned 5 of the Chinese dirt bikes since 2004. Pitster Pro 230SC was the best. Apollo 250 was junk. I still have 2 of the Lifan GY-5 street-legal Enduros, they don't compare to a 200cc by Suzuki or Yamaha.
("You get what you pay for"- A. Simmons)
Hahahaha thanks Frederick
Good review thankyou
I have a Kayo td 125, it's been great no problems.
Kayo is made by Kayo,, yes, and in China!! but, the Quality is spot, on an a very good product, and I also have knowledge of the Kayo built bikes and ATV's and they are great. This video is very misleading, and they do not have enough knowledge of the Kayo Product. Do your research before you give a bad review about a good product.
That is what it seems like that me.
Go buy tht hot garbage and get bussed by a sub 2k yamaha blaster tht kicks up everyday of its life
I have a kayo predator125 and it seem extremely under powered any tips
Change exhaust and jet the carb, it will run much better. We do it to Japanese bikes to. All factory bikes must meet emissions law so they restrict the performance.
Bought a TT125 for our son for Christmas. Less than 10 hours, been to the shop 3 times, and now the shift fork is either bent or broken. Have contacted the dealer multiple times with a lot of brush-off.
I have been riding a kayo k6r for the last month very nice bike done some research they are made in the same factory as the Ktm 1190 gpx is made in the same factory also most parts fit from the ktm and the husky
Very interesting Brian, glad you are having good luck with it! Thanks for letting us know!
What is a KTM 1190gpx?
@@luismleon2002ify right
I have a Tao Tao 150cc ATV and a Suzuki Z400 ATV. If you have no mechanic skills, go name brand. If you don't have much money, mechanically inclined and can locate parts on the internet, the Chinese stuff will work. The Chinese 150cc GY6 motor/transmission is low power but reliable. The rest of the Chinese ATV is unrefined and not as durable as the major brands. I seem to take the Tao Tao more often because it is much easier to load and transport.
There you go haha, well said, thank you!
Loving the content so far!
Thanks Tacos!
Pls be specific, like showing what feature of kayo bull 200 is substandard. Like show and tell !
Mines been badass
People are asking crazy amounts of money for used ATVs right now. CRAZY $$$$$$ !!! I was looking for some used youth ATV's. $3,000 for a 10 year old 90cc Yamaha Grizzly !!! WTF ?
The market does that to keep the new Chinese bike market on a negative review. If a 2nd hand Japanese bike costs 3k and a brand new Chinese bike costs you 2k then it must be crapy right? They just keep knocking the Chinese brands down. Pisses me off. Buy a kayo, nothing wrong with them.
@@mannyferrao1013 I bought a Kayo 125 ATV two years ago for my daughter. I am NOT happy with the purchase. It was way overpriced. It is the exact same engine as the other Chinese brands. I could have paid 1/2 to 1/3 of the price for a TaoTao or Xpro. Kayo is marketed as something better than regular Chinese crap but it is still crap. Out of the box, like all the Chinese crap, it needed an aftermarket carburetor to keep it running. After playing with it for 15 minutes, EVERY TIME, before each use, just to get it started, it ran so lean that it was probably going to overheat and blow up. The power was so weak that I had to re-gear it. It almost climbs moderate hills now but the top end is SLOOOOOOOW. It might be okay for a child less than 60 pounds. It is so bad that my daughter won't even ride it. She prefers my $600 pull start Massimo MB200S mini bike. The Kayo 125 only has about 5 hours on it. It has been sitting for 2 years, a couple days after I bought. I was so embarrassed. I really thought that I bought her something nice. She was the laughing stock of her friends. A sucker is born everyday. Whenever I see it, I get sick to my stomach.
I have a kayo AT 125-b
What brand, viscosity and amount of
Transmission fluid does it take?
How is the kayo predator 125 honestly my son rides rough and I’m afraid of one falling apart like other Chinese brands have in the past
Yuh I just got a brand new kayo 250 r, I ran it first time no problem and now it won’t start. It’s a piece of
We have two kayo quads 150 bull / jackal here in UK and 125 raging bull we have given them some hard use and so far 12 months only minor faults
Best do a review on them both
Is a 180cc Kayo any good , a little late
Quadbike
@@lowkey4465 I have a Jackal 200cc dude it runs like a beast. Runs rides stops amazing. I did change out the carburetor put a better one on & seriously it’s a nice bike
Do you know what the top speed for k2 250 kayo
Polaris is made in China and Taiwan. But regardless u can put a 232cc or a lifan( lifan makes the HF predator engines) 200 on a kayo jackal . You can buy a build Gy6 180cc for the kayo storm. New lifan 200cc complete with hardness and carb goes for 700$. Cant beat it.
What's your opinion of the Chinese made MOTO CFORCE ATVs ?
i ride my four wheelers too hard an im 11 im getting one of these hopefully this lasts lol if doesn't then im going to get the Polaris Ace question is Kayo good in mud and shit i didn't know this was a Chinese off brand
I know Chinese dirt bikes. Kayo is not a cookie cutter China bikes. They are engineered by a Honda engineer.
Kool I saw these in Saipan Mariana Islands.. no dirt bike tho
"Pay a little more for a name brand"? KTM twice the price which to me is a bit more than a little more. Used name brand purchase ; you don't know what you're getting , same as KAYO.
Good video. The lone exception to this seems to be GPX. The UA-cam reviews of these bikes are pretty good and the customer service is top notch. Same with CSC in California.
I like how honest you are about these. I agree with everything you've said. I would definitely spend a little more money on a name brand machine....you do get what you pay for.
You get what you paid for is not always the case. If you're buying a $5,000 dirt bike you're buying a $5,000 dirt bike. And $5,000 dollars isn't nothing the way I said. I wouldn't waste $10,000 on anything but a Harley. And if you can buy two $5,000 Chinese dirt bikes. Versus one Japanese dirt bike well who's the idiot. Also this guy knew anything about what he was actually talking about. He would know that the Kayo the Trail Masters and the GPX. Bikes are well worth the money!
What’s better. 125, 150?
I’m looking at buying a few youth quads. Kayo 125 cost 1k and the Yamaha 90 cost 3k. I keep hearing kayo is different then other China brands.
Think the little 125’s are worth getting for a little pit bike backyard track? $1600 for a new bike seems stupid to pass up
Run one on my block here in Australia no issues , basic no frills . Mix of gravel grass rocks everything . 5 hours or more each week bargain , one year of use .Mate i am also a 60 year old rider , not a kid but it is good for me.
Just got one today for a little backyard fun. I’ll let you know how it holds up
I own an Assassin KRZ 170 (kayo copy) for a few years.
Im 108kg and flog the absolute shit out of it and its still going strong. Only problem ive had is the chain came off.
So is it a kayo or not?
@@seanstewart8773
Everything is identical. Mine has no kayo markings. Mine has Assassin on engine case and plastics. Assassin bikes, go online and check them out.
I think they are kayo rebadged.
What do you think about ssr I’m thinking about the ssr300 or 450 I’d love to buy name brand but they’ve lost me with these prices and the used 1s ain’t much better
SSR is very good. Take a chance! I owned an SSR 110 it was very good.
I bout a kayo. Simply because I could not find any other 250 to buy in a reasonable price.
Entry level. This is how you learn what's good and what's quality
The warranty is a give away it is what it is. 30 days little bike 90 days.full size bikes. If you.wont even stand behind it for a year I will pass indefinitely.
Lmfao, you have to be kidding me, saying that we should spend a " little bit " more money and buy a name brand......a little bit more money, you mean a " LOT MORE " money. A new bike from the Japanese are upwards of almost 15K, compared to 4k, that's a big difference in price my friend! 😂👍
Can't find any good used name-brand ATVs at a decent price. Almost impossible.
Just bought a brand new 2020 Kayo 250cc dual sport in Waco, Tx. First bike ever. I live about an hour away from the dealership that I bought it. I’ve had it for about 3 months now and already having problems. It’s making sounds that it didn’t make when I first bought it. Like when I shift or come to stop it clicks and clanks. I’m thinking the chain is loose. I’ve been trying to get that back right axle loosened, but have been unsuccessful. I’m afraid I’m going to strip the bolt. Also the blinkers stopped working. The real pain in the butt is they’re no bike shops that can help
me with this and I have no way of transporting the bike. Any tips on how to fix these problems?
Take it to Barger's in Waco
We bought a 2021 T2 and the chain popped off on the very first ride. We got the chain back on (mid ride at 8k feet elevation) and then the chain doubled on itself and sheared off the cover plate that is part of the motor. Bike was a total loss.
Well, after reading the comments id say the ‘author’ is Damn close, no consistent quality.
Read, it’s right here in the comments.
“Mine was great!”
“Mine was garbage”
"You can buy it, but its bullshit" Is basically what you sayin 🤣🙏🏿
I guess you are right, I have recently purchased a fox70 for my daughter and after just 6months the chain came off as the cogs and rear axle were not properly aligned. My brother in law adjusted it last week. Other than that though, it has not skipped a beat, and it is thrashed by a 4year old speed demon for hours on end every Saturday and most sundays. I just changed the oil, oil the chain, pressure wash and occasionally tap out the air filter. Great little bike, but I am wondering how long she gets out of it before she breaks it 💁
Is it still running good? Any new issues? I'm considering it for my daughter. Her first. It's between this and crf50 but she prefers the 4 wheels. I prefer 2 so we fighting lol
@@charlesford485 yeah still in great condition, she did run into a tractor tyre and cracked a small piece of plastic on the fender but yeah! Starts first time every time and the battery surprisingly hasn’t even lost charge - uses it approx 2-3 hours every 2nd Saturday and Sunday.
@@jufrirayyan2584 sounds good thank you 👍🏾
The fact you call them cogs and your BIL had to adjust the chain says yhe issue is you and not the bike.
@@treefroggllc7993 unnecessary
Thinking of getting a TD110 for racing. I can for see my self paying 4k for a 110 or 125. An I have no interest in going any bigger. Rather race pit bikes an mini bikes.
the parts availability is the deal breaker for me. Looks like a great bike otherwise.
My friend picked up a Kayo 230, and on the first ride it died out not even 5 minutes into it. Let it sit a little while, and it started back up.
Also, randomly the electric start and kick start stopped working when the bike was cold. Was able to pop start it and once it was warm, both start functions started working again.
Does legit anybody know wtf could be wrong with the bike? I feel kind of bad, I more or less made him decide to get a Kayo instead of a FB marketplace bike he was looking at 😶
If its the 4 stroke timings off
Honda from the 70s Chinese parts 😆 as long as you take care of it it will last
Honda is Japanese
@@bignickaguilar4844 yes indeed Honda is japanese but in regards to my comment Honda no longer produces parts for there 1970 to 1980 motorcycles ,atv etc they are all aftermarket parts made in China you might be lucky enough to get Japanese Honda old stock but that market is very slim
@@stephengalvan7722 yes
you don't know if is a Brand on came for other chineses manufacture, the most or comments are may o may not... assume that this is like all other chinenes brands.... did you really took the time to review on internet any information about your are talking about???
Carlos I dealt with them personally for almost a year, sold and rode them, and even having that much experience it was still unclear who the “real” manufacturer was as they change hands several times from manufacture to dealers, as so many Chinese products do.
What is your opinion of the CFMOTO CForce ATV's ?
Cforce seems to have a decent reputation. Buddy has the 800 and have been trail riding it for awhile. Seems quality
Hard to get parts here in abilene tx.
Kid in my neighborhood got a kayo and it broke within a month of buying it.
The engineer of kayo worked as an engineer for Honda.
yeah he was basically the main engineer then founded kayo which is honestly more american than chinese
Do a 300cc sport atv now
I can tell you that my 2 kayo bull 200cc, purchased brand new and with only 50 miles on both of them, broke down simultaneously on a tame trail ride after about 45 minutes. Both bikes seemed to have overheated, and one of them to the degree that it melted its own heat guard. We were stranded in known bear territory at our family farm. It was super fun!! Luckily I had an ancient honda fourtrax that runs 8 million times better back at our barn and a good tow strap to retrieve one at a time. Again we were going like 15 mph, plotting way points in GPS. This was not a dogging situation or mud immersion, etc. The dealership of course "could not replicate". They did admit in the service dept that "yeah, we find these bikes don't like to be run much longer than 30 minutes at a time"
Dang man that sucks brother. 20 minute intervals is about as long as I run my Jackal. I do believe it gets pretty hot. It’s a FAFO type of thing sounds like u def did that lol
I have a kayo r6 250
I received a kayo bull 150cc but have no assembly instructions 😞
This is my first atv..any help?
That's tough Roodney! They usually end up in crates at dealers with little to instruction as well...I always had to just have a tech assemble it. Unfortunately the best I could do is suggest trying to find the instructions online, but this is a tough one!
Where'd you purchase it from Dealerships arent supposed to sell them unassembled
I have a kayo raging bull 250 and omfg it always breaks down then me or my brother gets blamed for it when we are only riding them for like 10 minutes per ride and won't start over reving battery running out all the time and I don't want to show my dad this video cus my dad will get passed off at me then just say the only reason their breaking us because you being stupid on them
I disagree with this guys review. I believe it’s assembling errors not manufacturing. I’ve owned a few kayo products. Good bang for buck. They do manufacture their own parts btw, they use to manufacture for a lot of other companies.
Top brands like ktm and gas gas are made in China, I agree some bikes from China are crapy but most are just as good as their Japanese counter part. Just wish you guys would stop bashing on all their products.
Look at the GPX bikes. A much higher level of quality
Great suggestion, if I can get my hands on any I will review!
Gpx is built in the same factory as kayo
I have a kayo 125 2017
Awesome, hopefully it has been a good one for you!
hey man a year later is it still doin good?
I can't trust certain things in life.
Why are 5k$ new old bikes sold for 3500$ used 2012-14 ,then u have to spend money fixing it u spend 4300$ ,so can someone explain to me how the fuck this bikes depreciate only 1k s in 8 yrs ?
Max speed kayo atv?
The 250 71 mph
Which Kayo 250 is best? Well it depends on what you ride! WE just got off the K2, K4, K6-EFI and the KT250 and they are all SO Different! Check it out: ua-cam.com/video/tXna1NqFGVA/v-deo.html
Avoid these bikes at all cost. We took a chance and bought the 2021 T2 as a beginner dirtbike for my partner. On the first ride the chain dislodged inside the casing on a 35 mile ride. Our local dealership was able to convince Kayo to give us a replacement. Now the replacement bike they gave us won't start. The battery died after one ride and right now it is sitting at our dealer because we can't get it started. I will say that when it runs it is a super powerful engine. The bike handles like a mountain bike with a 230cc engine underneath. It is super light but it does not feel as safe or sturdy like my 2021 CRF 250F.
Nothing but problems so far with this bike. We realized that it was not worth it to buy a cheap $3000 bike and now I am nervous whenever we go on long rides. Do yourselves a favor and spend your $3000 on a used Honda.
BUYER BEWARE PLEASE!!!! We bought two Kayo atvs for our kids. They are junk . cheep for a reason.. We regret buying them. Should have spent the $ on a major brand.. We have 2 atvs broke down that are only 2 months old and of course brand new with basically no warranty..
All I did was change the motor to a Honda problem solved
Kayo is made by Honda
How many Kayo’s do you see in professional motocross or gncc in America or abroad? Absolutely 0. Save your money and buy an Austrian or Japanese bike.
its not meant for pros tho
Kayo has 600 quads your Bs lol
Kayo wants you to confuse you with kymco. Kymco is reliable non Chinese brand
Kayo.....more like Kay........yoooooooo.......why are you riding that heap of recycled scrap metal young lady lol 😆
Disagree
Stop waving your hands so much.